Thank you VERY much Francisk for your generous donation and the kind words. It's VERY much appreciated. Whatever this channel makes goes towards a local trial I help maintain. Your donation will definitely put a smile on many people's faces. 👏🙏👍Thanks again and more videos to comes. 🤙
You are doing the lords work with these service videos. You have probably saved me $1000 bucks at this point (or more) from taking this stuff to the suspension shop. Thanks!
Now that really makes me feel like these videos can truly make a difference for people. All I can ask is that once you feel comfortable doing these jobs, you help your ride buddies with them so you can all enjoy a better overall experience. Thanks for sharing this. 👍 More videos to come 🤙
Hey really appreciate the videos, they have been a godsend to reference when servicing my suspension for the last couple years. Excited to see a X2 damper rebuild tutorial, hopefully! Cheers!
I am glad to hear that some of the videos have been helpful for you. Assuming you mean the new grip x2 (my mind thinks the shock when I hear X2, which I've posted a video on a 2019 and need to edit a video for a 2022 that will be posted soon), I'll be making a video on one for sure. It's just a question of time. 👍
I did something bad yesterday that I'll share mostly for your enjoyment. The videos are great - my own overconfidence is to blame. I was doing the 50-hour service on the shock, but decided I wanted to de-grime the knobs. When those pulled out, damper fluid started leaking out the knob port. I thought the control shaft seals would retain fluid, but maybe with the cams absent, parts move and the seal isn't possible. So I sat there for a full minute watching pressurized damper oil slowly bleed out into a pan, cursing because I'm now committed to a 200-hour that I can't do (missing tools). For fun, time to explore. When the oil stopped flowing, I opened the oil bleed screw, at which point I figured pressure was relieved, and forgot to open the IFP port. Then I mounted the shock in the vice, and proceeded to unscrew the damper housing, leading to an amazing "pop" as the remains of 500 PSI (probably 1/3 of that by this point?) blew the top half of the shock off, with the IFP rolling somewhere under my work bench into some cobwebs. As you've said - "SAFETY GLASSES are the most important tool!" After wiping myself clean of oil, I assessed the damage. The only fallout I've found so far is that the valve plate shims on the end of the compression rod are very slightly bent. To determine if rod or valves, I replaced the valve shims with a flat dremel grinding disk (the only flat round thing I could find with a similar sized screw hole), and that sits flat, so it must be deformed shims. Thinking about what happened, I figure that as the oil bled out, the IFP gradually pressed its way up through the body until it reached the valve plate, essentially crushing it. Sigh. New parts needed. It's TBD whether I'll shop for some tools and attempt the 200-hour, or admit defeat and send it off. Depends whether I can add "confidence" and "brains" to the shopping list. Either way, this is a reminder to follow the correct steps that are VERY clearly explained in your videos. :-) Thanks again for making these!
🤣🤣🤣I totally enjoyed that, and I super appreciate you sharing it with me. I can't count how many times I've been in that boat throughout my life. I literally don't have the brains to count that high. Your assessment is most likely accurate. There's 500 PSI in the IFP Chamber. The moment it's given a chance to escape, it's going to do so with vengeance. My guess is your lifting plate was in the open position, and the moment you opened the controls, boom! The ifp hit the plate and bent it. There's a chance the IFP could have a bit of damage from the screw that holds the plate. Sending it to fox will cost about $200 with shipping both ways. The question of how much less will fixing it on your own be, assuming there isn't any additional damage. I will say that it would make for a great learning project. If you have all the tools, then I would consider trying it to learn. OR, if you're in the States, send it to me and I can make a video out of it. It would be a great learning experience for others. Just a thought. Thank you again for sharing this. It totally made my day 🙂
@@zoubtube I'm in Ontario, and sent the shock to S4. If I was on your side of the Leaky Border, I'd happily send it your way. I'm weaning myself onto more services over time. Fork lowers, complete air spring and FIT4 have all been successfully done so far. Next year it'll be a GRIP2 service (shouldn't be hard), and probably in ~2 years, I may give the shock service a try. You could probably make yourself a healthy side business on selling collections of tools for each of these services. "3 filler needles, one 500-PSI shock pump and a shim stack nipple tool: Add to cart."
@@ChristopherGrant2003 Leaky border. that's funny! 😆 I'm going to drip my way through the border to Toronto later this week 😁 out of curiosity, what do they charge for this shock if you don't mind me asking. Also, someone just dropped off a fox 34 grip 2 damper. I should have a video out soon. Just an fyi in case it comes in handy
@@zoubtube Thanks for the heads up. S4's initial estimate for the Float DPS 200 hour, with 20% holiday discount, was CDN $158 + return shipping + tax = $198. Definitely enough that I regret pulling out the controls.
Just a heads up, The pillow packs are not required anymore. Fox says to use 20w gold in place of float fluid, meaning you can use the same in both fork and shock. If you got them, use them, but don’t bother if you already got a lot of 20w Gold. See their updated service manuals.
For real? That's the reason some kits have them and others don't? It's been hit and miss over the past year, but I really noticed it this past spring. I bought about a dozen 50-hour kits during the Planet cyclery fire sale, and 4 of them didn't have the pillow pack in them. I literally thought it was a bad batch. It sort of sucks if they completely stop adding a pillow pack to the kit. The vast majority of people only need a pillow pack for the 50 hour. More handy than a bottle. Thanks for updating me on the change. I haven't read the service manual on this shock for a while and wasn't aware of the change. There are so many things to keep up with in the world these days, I don't know if my brain can handle it anymore! 😵💫
@@zoubtube Confirming this. I was also confused, called Fox directly, and got "Float Fluid has indeed been replaced by 20 wt Gold oil". Probably not enough of a difference between the two to bother using a separate fluid.
Hello. When are you going to do a video on servicing a 2022 FOX DPS Factory Series remote operated? Same question for the 2022 FOX Float 34 FIT4 STEP-CAST remote operated .Thank you, you are the best!
I can't offer an actual time frame, but both are relatively popular around here, so I'm sure it will be sooner than later. It's just a question of timing. Now that I think about it, I received a call from a buddy two weeks ago before I left town who asked if I can swap the remotes on both his shock and fork to regular dials. but I think his bike is a 2024 or 23. I'll ping him when I'm back in town
You and me both! This shock really hasn't changed all that much since the RP2. You would think that they would have done this by now. I know that the biggest reason is cost savings. At scale, it is MUCH quicker to fill them by needle than by adapter, and they have made a few million of these inline shocks over the years. But still, Rockshox obviously figured it out. The least they can do is offer it as an upgrade option
Question for you @ZoubTube! I have a Fox Float 2024 (DPS successor). It has a Torx screw rather than the Delrin plug at the bottom. I had a moment of bad judgement and unscrewed that after the shock was depressurized and air can was unscrewed. It did seem like a very small hiss of air came out when I undid this screw. Do I need to pump it back up to 550 PSI, or is the Torx screw just a grub seal covering the valve inside?
Sincere Apologies for the delayed response. Any hissing noise emanating from the IFP chamber port signifies the presence of gas leaking from within the chamber, ultimately necessitating a refill. At least you don't have to deal with the pellet, which make this MUCH easier 😉👍
@ thanks for the reply! I found my local suspension wiz (shoutout to The Shock Howse in the Seattle area), who confirmed the same and re-charged it. Lesson learned!
@@clarks888 I'm assuming Mike is still running the shock howse. He's awesome. You guys are lucky to have him in the area. Very few like him in the country. Glad to hear the issue was fixed 👍
Bro - you are the channel every DIYer needs. Thank you.
Thank you VERY much Francisk for your generous donation and the kind words. It's VERY much appreciated. Whatever this channel makes goes towards a local trial I help maintain. Your donation will definitely put a smile on many people's faces. 👏🙏👍Thanks again and more videos to comes. 🤙
You are doing the lords work with these service videos. You have probably saved me $1000 bucks at this point (or more) from taking this stuff to the suspension shop. Thanks!
Now that really makes me feel like these videos can truly make a difference for people. All I can ask is that once you feel comfortable doing these jobs, you help your ride buddies with them so you can all enjoy a better overall experience. Thanks for sharing this. 👍 More videos to come 🤙
Seriously man, I just cant tell you enough how much I love your channel! Keep it up!
Thank you very much for the positive feedback. More videos to come! 👍
Hey really appreciate the videos, they have been a godsend to reference when servicing my suspension for the last couple years. Excited to see a X2 damper rebuild tutorial, hopefully! Cheers!
I am glad to hear that some of the videos have been helpful for you. Assuming you mean the new grip x2 (my mind thinks the shock when I hear X2, which I've posted a video on a 2019 and need to edit a video for a 2022 that will be posted soon), I'll be making a video on one for sure. It's just a question of time. 👍
I did something bad yesterday that I'll share mostly for your enjoyment. The videos are great - my own overconfidence is to blame.
I was doing the 50-hour service on the shock, but decided I wanted to de-grime the knobs. When those pulled out, damper fluid started leaking out the knob port. I thought the control shaft seals would retain fluid, but maybe with the cams absent, parts move and the seal isn't possible. So I sat there for a full minute watching pressurized damper oil slowly bleed out into a pan, cursing because I'm now committed to a 200-hour that I can't do (missing tools). For fun, time to explore. When the oil stopped flowing, I opened the oil bleed screw, at which point I figured pressure was relieved, and forgot to open the IFP port. Then I mounted the shock in the vice, and proceeded to unscrew the damper housing, leading to an amazing "pop" as the remains of 500 PSI (probably 1/3 of that by this point?) blew the top half of the shock off, with the IFP rolling somewhere under my work bench into some cobwebs. As you've said - "SAFETY GLASSES are the most important tool!"
After wiping myself clean of oil, I assessed the damage. The only fallout I've found so far is that the valve plate shims on the end of the compression rod are very slightly bent. To determine if rod or valves, I replaced the valve shims with a flat dremel grinding disk (the only flat round thing I could find with a similar sized screw hole), and that sits flat, so it must be deformed shims. Thinking about what happened, I figure that as the oil bled out, the IFP gradually pressed its way up through the body until it reached the valve plate, essentially crushing it. Sigh. New parts needed.
It's TBD whether I'll shop for some tools and attempt the 200-hour, or admit defeat and send it off. Depends whether I can add "confidence" and "brains" to the shopping list. Either way, this is a reminder to follow the correct steps that are VERY clearly explained in your videos. :-) Thanks again for making these!
🤣🤣🤣I totally enjoyed that, and I super appreciate you sharing it with me. I can't count how many times I've been in that boat throughout my life. I literally don't have the brains to count that high.
Your assessment is most likely accurate. There's 500 PSI in the IFP Chamber. The moment it's given a chance to escape, it's going to do so with vengeance. My guess is your lifting plate was in the open position, and the moment you opened the controls, boom! The ifp hit the plate and bent it. There's a chance the IFP could have a bit of damage from the screw that holds the plate.
Sending it to fox will cost about $200 with shipping both ways. The question of how much less will fixing it on your own be, assuming there isn't any additional damage.
I will say that it would make for a great learning project. If you have all the tools, then I would consider trying it to learn. OR, if you're in the States, send it to me and I can make a video out of it. It would be a great learning experience for others. Just a thought.
Thank you again for sharing this. It totally made my day 🙂
@@zoubtube I'm in Ontario, and sent the shock to S4. If I was on your side of the Leaky Border, I'd happily send it your way.
I'm weaning myself onto more services over time. Fork lowers, complete air spring and FIT4 have all been successfully done so far. Next year it'll be a GRIP2 service (shouldn't be hard), and probably in ~2 years, I may give the shock service a try.
You could probably make yourself a healthy side business on selling collections of tools for each of these services. "3 filler needles, one 500-PSI shock pump and a shim stack nipple tool: Add to cart."
@@ChristopherGrant2003 Leaky border. that's funny! 😆 I'm going to drip my way through the border to Toronto later this week 😁
out of curiosity, what do they charge for this shock if you don't mind me asking. Also, someone just dropped off a fox 34 grip 2 damper. I should have a video out soon. Just an fyi in case it comes in handy
@@zoubtube Thanks for the heads up. S4's initial estimate for the Float DPS 200 hour, with 20% holiday discount, was CDN $158 + return shipping + tax = $198. Definitely enough that I regret pulling out the controls.
Simply the best. 👍
Thank you sir. More videos coming
Great video as always!
thanks myman!
Just a heads up, The pillow packs are not required anymore. Fox says to use 20w gold in place of float fluid, meaning you can use the same in both fork and shock. If you got them, use them, but don’t bother if you already got a lot of 20w Gold. See their updated service manuals.
For real? That's the reason some kits have them and others don't? It's been hit and miss over the past year, but I really noticed it this past spring. I bought about a dozen 50-hour kits during the Planet cyclery fire sale, and 4 of them didn't have the pillow pack in them. I literally thought it was a bad batch. It sort of sucks if they completely stop adding a pillow pack to the kit. The vast majority of people only need a pillow pack for the 50 hour. More handy than a bottle.
Thanks for updating me on the change. I haven't read the service manual on this shock for a while and wasn't aware of the change. There are so many things to keep up with in the world these days, I don't know if my brain can handle it anymore! 😵💫
@@zoubtube Confirming this. I was also confused, called Fox directly, and got "Float Fluid has indeed been replaced by 20 wt Gold oil". Probably not enough of a difference between the two to bother using a separate fluid.
Hello. When are you going to do a video on servicing a 2022 FOX DPS Factory Series remote operated? Same question for the 2022 FOX Float 34 FIT4 STEP-CAST remote operated .Thank you, you are the best!
I can't offer an actual time frame, but both are relatively popular around here, so I'm sure it will be sooner than later. It's just a question of timing. Now that I think about it, I received a call from a buddy two weeks ago before I left town who asked if I can swap the remotes on both his shock and fork to regular dials. but I think his bike is a 2024 or 23. I'll ping him when I'm back in town
i don't understand why fox don't put a valve in IFP like rockshox...
You and me both! This shock really hasn't changed all that much since the RP2. You would think that they would have done this by now. I know that the biggest reason is cost savings. At scale, it is MUCH quicker to fill them by needle than by adapter, and they have made a few million of these inline shocks over the years. But still, Rockshox obviously figured it out. The least they can do is offer it as an upgrade option
Question for you @ZoubTube!
I have a Fox Float 2024 (DPS successor). It has a Torx screw rather than the Delrin plug at the bottom. I had a moment of bad judgement and unscrewed that after the shock was depressurized and air can was unscrewed. It did seem like a very small hiss of air came out when I undid this screw. Do I need to pump it back up to 550 PSI, or is the Torx screw just a grub seal covering the valve inside?
Sincere Apologies for the delayed response. Any hissing noise emanating from the IFP chamber port signifies the presence of gas leaking from within the chamber, ultimately necessitating a refill. At least you don't have to deal with the pellet, which make this MUCH easier 😉👍
@ thanks for the reply! I found my local suspension wiz (shoutout to The Shock Howse in the Seattle area), who confirmed the same and re-charged it. Lesson learned!
@@clarks888 I'm assuming Mike is still running the shock howse. He's awesome. You guys are lucky to have him in the area. Very few like him in the country. Glad to hear the issue was fixed 👍
@ yep, he’s awesome!
Mate, your subscriber count is criminally low. I'm off to scream about you on as many forums as I can think of 👍🏻
Thanks btw.
Thank you for the support and your generosity. Any help spreading the word would be amazing. Thanks again and more videos to come! 👍