How To Use A Bucket To Vent A Spray Booth - Bucket Hack For Airbrushing
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This isn’t much different than an airbrush cleaning pot, only on a larger scale
How is the diameter of the hose?
Standard size on most spray booths on ebay
or a bong
@@user-br6wx8vy3sfor that particular hose probably 4 inches
@@vasili1207 HAHAHA!
Just drilled a hole through a brick wall yesterday now this vid comes out 😂
What perfect timing for those of us in the north without a window. I saw the bucket on your last video and was about to ask about it. Then saw this video come up, so thank you for sharing!
I've constructed something similar to this. You can purchase Hepa fabric material to screen off fine particulates, but when it comes to white spirits (varsol/ alkyd paint thinner), lacquer thinner, acetone, xylene or anything that fries brain cells, vent outside. If you have a living bird in a cage nearby, you may learn a very sad lesson the hard way. If it's no good for our feathered friends, it's not good for us either. I ONLY use this indoor method with water-based acrylics and Isopropyl alcohol as a thinner and cleaner.
The saying "canary in the coal mine" exists for a reason!
I blow mine through a box of activated charcoal pellets for fish tanks, works really well for cutting down the odors and is pretty cheap in bulk. Then I just burn the charcoal in my fireplace near the end of winter which is about when it starts to get exhausted anyway. A few kgs of the stuff at a time goes a long way, especially if you seal the box between uses.
Alcohol is one of the worst things we can breathe as modelers.
I run a similar setup to this for laquers (I spray very little in 1/72 scale mostly) and I pop a window for fresh air. Regardless of what medium I'm using, you better believe I'm properly masked up. Hope you are as well. Alcohol based acrylic is vicious.
Thanks. I'm looking to start airbrushing soon and I've never done it before so I'm trying to get together everything I need before I start. Some people can make things sound so difficult to the point that puts people off but you've made this sound so simple. Thanks again.
I’ve been putting together a setup for airbrushing with water based acrylics in my basement; on a low budget so this video is so helpful!! Thank you for providing some great info!
this is pretty cool, basically like those waterfall booths, both are probably fine for acrylics but for lacquers and such its not just about evacuating overspray, but the VOCs too, which this will not do, especially dangerous if youre using it indoors.
Any advice on something like this for enamels or lacquers?
@@Lifeinerinn you could create the same setup as this but use a real active coal filter instead of this foam filter. If it works in a protective mask than it should theoretically work with this too.
@@Lifeinerinn a strong exhaust fan vented to outside is the only thing I would use for enamel and lacquers. Theres some nasty stuff in a lot of model paints, especially lacquers, really not worth the exposure risk to half ass the ventilation, especially if you paint kits with any significant frequency. VOCs can be carcinogenic or at least cause irreversible tissue damage. I personally use one of those explosion proof 10 exhaust fans that moves like 1942 cfm. It's overkill but nothing escapes my booth and it's peace of mind.
@@Lifeinerinn enamels and lacquers have lots of solvents and other nasty VOC-producing products in them, usually much more than most acrylic-based products. While an active carbon filters, HEPA filters and a NIOSH P100 protective mask might work for acrylics ona moderate period of time, VOCs eventually need to go somewhere outside to mitigate health risks. I would follow _jovian's advice and invest in a proper ventilation system for safety, especially if you've got other people living in your house.
Well considering every single one of those paint booths state "not for use with solvent based paints" just using them with lacquers or enamels is dangerous itself. They don't come with explosion proof fans. Hence why they're so cheap.
Thanks for posting this! I've been toying with the idea of trying something like this but have never gotten around to sketching out a plan. Nice to see that it can be done and a lot simpler than what I had in my head.
Thank you Robert for sharing your bucket trick. I was very curious about how it was rigged. You’re definitely for and about the common everyday modeler. 👍👍
Very cool idea.
I see multiple asks about resin fumes from printers, spray paints, etc. This method is only safe for (1) particulates (like dried paint droplets) or (2) water-soluble vapours. Since resin and solvent fumes (etc) are neither, they will pass through or over the water and back out the holes into your room.
Also, running the hose into the water, as some have asked, will make it more effective as a filter but it will cause more back pressure and your fan won't perform as well, so that's your trade-off.🤔
If anyone is asking if this would work for resin prints they really shouldn't have a resin printer those are the same people that get water wash resin and think it's safe to rinse down the sink drain lol
@@dusty3033 Well, you know the old saying...when someone asks a question to better themselves, mock them relentlessly. 😐
@zandarrthegreat6790 um it's not a mock it's a thing like do research before buying and know all the hazards it's like if you live in an apartment and don't use air filters and such and it gets into the air ducts and the voc travel thru the air system it will get into everyone's rooms and so Irresponsible for something like that to happen
I,m going to go with two buckets, water from bottom, with a few UV strips.
Oxygen prevents photo reactive resin from reacting. Lots of little bubbles should help.
And then a second bucket fitted to the top, full of activated carbon, and then outside.
I got pet birds so I have to be extra careful.
@@dusty3033 But asking this question is part of their research. They are reaching out to people that may know.
What a great idea, I would have never thought that you could use this technique for using a spray booth if you can't vent to the outside. Thank you for this video and the information you provide
Thanks for showing the bucket filter. I'm in a basement and I'll be making one.
Pretty ingenious! I vent out of a window, but I can see an advantage to this in the depths of winter.
Thanks for going in detail about the bucket - I've seen it before and thought it needed some water in there so it's good to have it spelled out. Adding activated carbon/charcoal filters in the tube might help with absorbing odors, too.
In addition to this, you can also run an air purifier to pick up residual contaminants and it also helps clear up dust in the paint area.
Yes, great advice
I use a box of activated charcoal at the exhaust of my paint booth, probably not as cheap as running an air purifier at the exhaust in the long run though, I might have to look into that!
Many Thanks Robert. Wishing you and your family the best of holidays!
It's like a bong! Thank you for explaining it. I have been looking for this explanation so I can build a bigger version.
This information is very useful for those of without access to a window - thank you for sharing.
This is a great cheep alternative for those who don’t have a window and it works great
This is great advice as we go into the winter months here in the Northeast
Great video for diy inexpensive over spray trap. Simple and effective. Thanks.
This is so smart!
I have no idea why something like this has never crossed my mind.
It really is amazing how many non creative people actually exist, and I don't mean that in a bad way. The cost to buy anything these days is astronomical and being creative can save tons of money.
I use Carbon Filters
Great idea, I really like it for the spray booth use, we had the same set up for our factory compressor discharge, it collected moisture and worked like a charm, I'm going to use this bucket idea in winter months when opening windows is not an option.
Excellent tip Thanks for sharing Truly appreciate your passing along your experience 👍🏽👍🏽
I just moved to Japan, and with that comes a smaller apartment and living space. I figured I would have to slow down and possibly put a hold on my airbrushing so as to not stink up my apartment. This trick, along with a waterfall should resolve those issues. Thank you so much!
Oh yeah, the Waterfall Spray Booth is just right for hobbyist like you
This is genius I just moved into a new tiny apartment and didn't have proper ventilation to paint my model kits now all you got to do is make a quick stop to home Depot or whatever and then find some filter foam dope ideas thanks for sharing
Just bought a new spray booth (on your recommendation) and have iffy window access so this is timed perfectly.
I always thought their was a better way to filter the vent air. Now you have shown me how.
Very helpful video! Buying the bits tomorrow! I might put a couple of sheets of hepa filter over the end of the vent hose inside the bucket, seal it with a large rubber band, gives another level of filtration.
Fantastic idea. Thanks for sharing this, I always wondered how it works
I just watched your last video and was asking this question. Thanks!
Great idea , getting my air brush set up, need to look back at your old videos for thinners and cleaner great stuff
Wow, talk about timing. Not two hours ago I was searching through all your past videos to see if you had covered this topic after I saw it when you were doing the double spray booth yesterday. I went back 3 years and couldn't find anything. I was going to email you about it ... and then this popped up. Awesome. Thanks for the explanation. Take care. Look forward to the waterfall booth review.
I was literally doing this yesterday lol
Now, you have come up with the solution I need, so I can make my painting in-doors a lot easier, ( don't have a garage or shed, so I am in the spare bedroom) as I would like to use some of the acrylic lacquers, again, many thanks for this idea, I would like to wish yoh and your family all the very best wishes for the upcoming holiday season, many thanks from a Kiwi ( New Zealander) living in Australia 👍👍👍
Thanks for this. I was looking for a reasonable, alternative solution for indoor venting and this will work for my purposes. Cheers from Canada
I've been doing this for about 3 years now, works great.
Particulate is the word you're looking for lol. Thank you for this video it just reassured every idea I had on building mine.
Thank you so much, I had this idea for a while but could not find any videos on TH-cam. Anyway, you just confirmed it and will go ahead and finish mine :)
Thank you for this info. I just about this today in a Facebook group. Cold weather has set in here where I am so I will definitely try this method. 👌
Super cool, I've been wondering for a while now how that is made.
Thanks for learnin me something awesome😁
Look in to using a inline duct charcoal filter. They are often used in indoor plant/pot growing setups and works very well.
Yes indeed. I can spray Alclad in my apartment and not stink the place up using one. Not horribly expensive and last a really long time. Also take up a bit less space than a 5 gallon bucket. But the bucket method DOES work!
I used the charcoal filter exhaust system for my grow tent and it does work I now use it in my 5gal bucket with my waterfall spray booth cause the water catches the paint and the fumes go to the bucket
@@PopArow4702 activated carbon cannot filter out these fumes. It can only filter out the particulates which will include the smell. You will still be breathing in everything that's actually toxic for you. That is why there is three types of filters the first of which being dust the second one being a particulate in the third one being a fume
Smell is the last and least relevant thing to worry about. This leaves the VOCs in your air, your lungs, your pets’ lungs.
My solution for spraying in my garage during the winter. My garage is insulated and heated, unless I have the side door, but it's to cold to do right now. Thank you Mr. Rex for the tip.
Merry Christmas everyone.
Nice! I didn’t want to get a booth because I don’t really have a spot next to a window but this makes me want to get a booth!
And spraying outside is so hard with wind or temperature constantly being under 40. This is exciting
Great video! Very helpful for modelers to know.
If you want to use solvent based paint, you can make an inlay inside your blue bucket and fill it with Aquarius carbon filter pellets. Basically turning it in to a gasmask. It's probably not something that would pass a health/work safety inspection at a work place, but for hobby use it will work just fine.
Did you try something like that? I was thinking about something like that myself, but I have no idea how effective that would be/how thick the layer would have to be and all that. Face mask filters aren't very thick but the amount of air that passes through them compared to spray booth fan is wayyy less...
Thanks for the information. I made on of these and used shredded newspaper. I like the water concept. Going to set my as you demonstrated.
Also check out my latest video on my ways to do this
Thank you for the suggestion I am going to buy my paint booth soon and I had no windows so I was trying to figure out how to expel the access paint. Great suggestion, thank you very much happy holidays.
Great video, thanks for sharing. About to start airbrushing on my layout. Appreciate all the tips. - Steve
Excellent idea. I will try myself since my bench has no windows and it’s a real job to extend my 5 meter hose to the nearest window.
Thanks for the Tip, I'm fairly new into miniature & model painting, and have mostly done it all by brush, I did get a affordable introductory air brush though have been reluctant to use it due to my enclosed living situation, This seem like the solution to a few of those hurdles that were of a concern. 👍
I tried this after seeing it on your channel last time you showed it. I don't think I had the holes big enough as the whole room filled with over spray I had a layer of blue dust in the bathroom too. I now know my holes were to small. If you only spray occasionally be careful as the water will go mouldy so empty it till needed. Thanks Rex. Jay from England 🇬🇧.
So essentially. You have small holes.
Wonderful hack!
Will be doing one in my garage work bench
Thanks
Fantastic thank you so much for this, this will make a real difference to where i use my air brush!
The video i never knew i needed!
You just keep delivering!
I would suggest to most of the comments about additional filter media that this system PUSHES air from the booth into the bucket, and the more media in the way the more blockage the air will have. A sucking fan at the bucket end would do better for adding more robust filtering techniques, but that would defeat the simplicity of this system. Great video!
That is something I have planned to do when I get my spray booth. I was thinking of adding a filter to the inside of the bucket. Glad to know others use this method. On another note, previously I asked about using the DecoArt Acrylic Polyurethane clear. I tried it thru my airbrush about a week ago with less than steller results. May have been my process. Anyway, it does wet sand fairly easily, so I am going to try again adding a bit of iso to see if that helps. Looking forward to seeing if you can get a chance to try it out and what you think of it.
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I had been wondering what it would take to safely spray indoors. Now I know! Thanks for the useful info. Will look into it when I have some free time again. One could potentially play with the mediums a little or add a second chamber and turn it into a multi stage filter. As long as the airflow is still strong enough that is.
Thank you Sir for sharing your bucket trick. I was very curious about how it was rigged. I greatly appreciate you for consider the common everyday modeler on a budget.
Nice. I am hoing to make it a project for next year,both the spray booth and the bucket filter. Great
This is super useful, my setup is in my basement and there's no nearby window. I'm using acrylics for hobby painting and don't do tons at a time, I'll 100% be building one of these this week.
Thanks for the tips and taking the time to make the video!
Reading all the comments, I hope nobody gets harmed. It looks like too many assume that this would help when working with toxic fumes as well.
I'm not an expert but I'm sure that this won't be enougg for toxic stuff.
You are mentioning activated carbon filter but it's not as easy as it sounds. I hope people will do more research when handling toxic stuff.
Thanks for posting this idea, it s just great and an interesting solution for airbrushing inside when opening windows isn't possible for several reasons.
Very good idea.
Thanks for sharing this. I just set my booth up this morning to coat some 3D prints.
Your timing could not be better. I have been trying to decide on a method of making a similar system. I will be making one in the next couple of weeks. thanks.
Nice trick. I have a spot that’s better for me in the lower level of the house, but setting up by any of the windows won’t really work. This seems like a useful set up
Thank you!! I’m putting one together tomorrow.
A great suggestion, I'll have to give this a shot myself!
Great idea. Well explained.
Thank you for sharing.
I have my spray booth setup in a similar fashion. I switched form a bucket with holes like that to an old round humidifier I picked up for $2 at a garage sale. The wet filters grab everything and it has a slot for a charcoal filter though I seldom put them in.
Nice!
This might be a saving grace for the setup I’m trying to get going for myself… Since I have a fire escape window with a gate it’s been tough finding a convenient way to get a booth that I can fit it but this though? Might be trying this asap thanks alot for not just this but what you’ve been doing thus far , it’s greatly appreciated
What a wealth of information! Thank you for this video!
Thanks for the tip. Very similar to a homemade wood dust filtration system ive seen.
Ill be building one :)
Great idea! Thanks for sharing.
Fantastic as I have no ventilation in my hobby room. Thank you
Cool deal!.. Has anyone ever used a rainbow vaccum cleaner it uses water as its filter I had one and used it to trap the paint fumes by evacuating out the fumes in my spray booth it worked really well too.. When the water got loaded up I would just dump it and be back up and spraying.
awesome idea and very good explanation!
So glad I found this. Have been wanting to set up a booth I got but the closest window is a long way away from the area I can work. Was worried I would need to figure out a system to chain some vent fans to make sure it got out. Going to do this!
I'd like to mention you should go with a carbon filter for the top of the bucket to further trap smells
@@barbatosrex9473 awesome I will order some! Do you mind if I ask what kind of sealant you might recommend? I get handy as needed but try to go with recommendations. I have found my local shop will give me some that work but often more as short term hacks. Last sealant they recommended to me would erode the seal long term and increase my costs down the line.
Great idea. I'm definitely making one of these.
Thank you!!! Will be using this hack!! My bench is in front of a window. Lol so no room to vent a future purchase spray booth.
Good luck my friend
Thanks for your video.Today I purchased the items to make the purifier too
Really cool setup, I use nontoxic paints so I just go respirator, box fan and furnace filter, but if I ever upgrade I'll probably do this.
I have done something similar to this but used a Indoor Dryer Vent with a Polyester Filter that has a Water Drawer System (think Amazon by FUNMAS). When you talked about putting a scent in the water, all I could think about was the Poo-Pourri Spray my wife uses when we go on vacations…😂. Thanks again for sharing your best practices.
This is so great. Thank you. I've been using spray cans for a lot of my modeling life and I finally am switching over to airbrushing because the quality of the paint jobs so much better. The only problem is my modeling room where I'm moving to doesn't have a window. This is a lifesaver for me. 👍
I'm sort of in the same situation as you are. Just wondering how successful has it been if you've already have it installed. Any smell at all?
@@vftw6086 I’ve gone to using mostly water based acrylics covered with acrylic clear coats so there’s not much smell. If you are using lacquer paints you do still get some smell. I would say use one of those ventilating masks if you must use lacquer or enamel paints. Good luck and be safe with it.
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Wow, really appreciate the knowledge 🤔 had no idea this was possible, Awesome!!!
Nice little trick. I think also it's nice for the winter months when it's super cold out and you don't want a window open. I must be immune to the vapes of paints cause the smells don't bother me.
Thats..actually really smart
Just bought a similar airbrush booth. Might have to do this.
Another great idea from BR! Thanks again.
Jesus since last years before i do sth new for my painting corner i wont do it without checking if your channel have any ideas ab it too lol , such a useful for rookie as me . thanks man
hourra you fix my problem i was thintking about this idea in the shower and you confirm my plan
Nice idea. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for this video. My setup will be in the basement so this will would perfect.
Merry Christmas to you sir and thanks for your video tips and tricks throughout the year , regards Fred ps might move my spray booth from my cold garage my model room and do a similar rig 😊 then I can start airbrushing again ,thanks
I have a window, but I live in MN. I may make one of these to use in the winter.
I just built one, only because it is too cold to vent out the storm door. I cut the charcoal filter to fit the entire lid then drilled 1" holes about 2" apart around outside edge of lid and 4 closer to the dryer vent coupler. I test sprayed some lacquer thinner. I can still smell the thinner but it is not as bad as no vent filter. Will have to see as time goes on.
I wanted to know what it was. This is great. I will build one when building my diy airbrush spraybooth
Great idea and I was actually just looking for something like this. What would be really great is to do a comparison test of particles in the air going into the bucket and going out of the bucket, just to know how much are being filtered out (and more importantly: what you are still getting into your room).
That's been done and that's why this is not accepted in a workplace and can't meet the already-minimalistic safety standards most countries have in place. It's Chinese sweatshop tier.
Thanks, for posting this. great idea.
Oh awesome, bless you! This is most helpful!!!!! Thank you!