@@johnsonja329 Oh man. That's the one thing I didn't have to deal with. Mine was originally a CA car and totally rust free. Are you rewelding a new floor in?
@@johnsonja329 Oh man. The damned tailgate. It's easily the Achilles heel of this truck. Good luck finding a new one. I'm sure they're out there. I posted a tailgate maintenance video a week or so ago. I'm super happy with the condition on mine now but it started out a hot mess. What sucks is if your tailgate doesn't work, then you technically don't have a 4Runner. It really is a bs weak point. Well good luck with the restoration. I plan to post a few interior restoration videos in the coming weeks so stay tuned. The interior stuff is really easy to do and it's very very rewarding.
That carwash is going to shred your new paint job! All of those brushes/rollers are dragging dirt around on your paint. Always go touchless or wash yourself if you want to protect your paint.
I don't consider this a "car". It's definitely a truck. The controversy over the 22RE vs 3.0 V6 was really due to head gasket issue that Toyota had with the 3.0, not to mention misfire issues that creep up. It's good to eliminate the exhaust crossover pipe to mitigate hot soak. Also, for the size and weight of the 3.0, it gets horrible gas mileage for the power. The 22RE may be reliable but you pretty much have to do a timing chain and head gasket every 200k. That's not really what a lot of people would consider reliable. When these trucks started getting older, everyone wanted the early 84 and 85 models because they had a straight front axle which is stronger and easier to modify for off road. The 85 SR5 was the model to get because it was the only year to have a straight axle with fuel injection(22RE). The 84 had the 22R. People also liked the manual 4cylinder 4runners better because they came with a gear driven transfer case vs chain driven on autos and 3.0s which allows for lowering the gear ratio and you can split them and sandwich them together for more and lower off road gears. As time passed and people realized the 3.4 was just basically a 3.0 with all(most) of it's problems fixed and modernized, 4runners like yours became valuable because they are good candidates for a 3.4 swap especially with the manual transmission that you have as it's more beefy internally than the 5spd that came on the 4cyl 4runners and practically bolts right up to the 3.4. To comment on the first part of your video, my 85 manual will start any time I turn the key. They never had a clutch start cancel button. That was another thing Toyota had to add for Americans along with IFS and auto locking hubs to keep them from crying. I also have factory cruise control. It is not as rare of a feature for 80s vehicles than you think. Regarding the 22RE. It is a good motor but should not have been used in anything above a standard cab 2wd truck. It's perfectly suited for one of those. The 4runner was way to big and heavy for the 22RE. It's a total dog in the 4runner. I personally think it has a better reputation than it deserves. Besides needing a head gasket and timing chain too frequently, it has way too many strange sensors and timers that are getting hard to find. Also, the harness has solder connections that don't age well. Like the 3.4 to the 3.0, the 2rz/3rz motors are vastly superior to the 22re. All you have to worry about with those is adjusting the valve clearance every 60k or so as they tighten up over time.
with my 88 4runner I opted to replace the 22re with a 2tr-fe. Modern efi and hydraulic lifters. I will never have to touch the valves in mine and parts are easy to obtain.
It's a fully optioned SR5 and doesn't have the inclinometer? My 85 with the 22RE has a cam and header and it moves along well. Not underpowered at all. My biggest complaint of my truck is no cup holders and washing the inside of the rear window 😊
My 86 is at the mechanic now getting some new and some used steering and front suspension parts from a 94. It will probably be going back to get the rear end and leaf springs from that 94 later.
I had an ‘88 & that amount of play in the steering is not normal & is obviously attributed to the age of the truck among other possibilities. Cruise control in a late 80’s vehicle was not a rarity by any means.
@@bruce949 I would definitely find the right harness adapter and buy it with the unit so you don’t have to cut any wires. Otherwise it mounts quite easily.
@@ryangosling5821 i bought it because my rear window was busted out and the tailgate has a big dent so to get a new window I’d have to replace both. I’m in Alaska and last winter the heater kept up enough to keep me from freezing without a back window when I drove it so I’m sure this winter will be better. It’s been on there through some pretty heavy rain and no leaks so far I really liked it when I got it and the longer I’ve had it the more I like it. Well worth it in my opinion.
lol. What is this a crossover episode? Thanks for following. The short answer is no. I tried a couple of units but decided it didn't make enough sense given the oem screen was working okay and I technically don't need CarPlay in my golf cart.
My 22re on 31s works to do 70-80, even in 5th gear.
I really would love to do a 22RE vs V6 video asap. Anyone in SoCal with a 22RE who wants to volunteer ...?
@@AverageCarGuy wish I had that weather. I'm up here in Wisconsin replacing floor pans because of the rust on the 1st gen I just bought.
@@johnsonja329 Oh man. That's the one thing I didn't have to deal with. Mine was originally a CA car and totally rust free. Are you rewelding a new floor in?
@AverageCarGuy just near the front where the driver's feet sit. The rest is body panel work, and looking for a new rear tailgate.
@@johnsonja329 Oh man. The damned tailgate. It's easily the Achilles heel of this truck. Good luck finding a new one. I'm sure they're out there. I posted a tailgate maintenance video a week or so ago. I'm super happy with the condition on mine now but it started out a hot mess. What sucks is if your tailgate doesn't work, then you technically don't have a 4Runner. It really is a bs weak point. Well good luck with the restoration. I plan to post a few interior restoration videos in the coming weeks so stay tuned. The interior stuff is really easy to do and it's very very rewarding.
That carwash is going to shred your new paint job! All of those brushes/rollers are dragging dirt around on your paint. Always go touchless or wash yourself if you want to protect your paint.
The 22re might have been very reliable back in the 80's. The only engines I've blown up is a 22r, and I managed to blow up two in my 83 pickup.
I don't consider this a "car". It's definitely a truck. The controversy over the 22RE vs 3.0 V6 was really due to head gasket issue that Toyota had with the 3.0, not to mention misfire issues that creep up. It's good to eliminate the exhaust crossover pipe to mitigate hot soak. Also, for the size and weight of the 3.0, it gets horrible gas mileage for the power. The 22RE may be reliable but you pretty much have to do a timing chain and head gasket every 200k. That's not really what a lot of people would consider reliable.
When these trucks started getting older, everyone wanted the early 84 and 85 models because they had a straight front axle which is stronger and easier to modify for off road. The 85 SR5 was the model to get because it was the only year to have a straight axle with fuel injection(22RE). The 84 had the 22R. People also liked the manual 4cylinder 4runners better because they came with a gear driven transfer case vs chain driven on autos and 3.0s which allows for lowering the gear ratio and you can split them and sandwich them together for more and lower off road gears.
As time passed and people realized the 3.4 was just basically a 3.0 with all(most) of it's problems fixed and modernized, 4runners like yours became valuable because they are good candidates for a 3.4 swap especially with the manual transmission that you have as it's more beefy internally than the 5spd that came on the 4cyl 4runners and practically bolts right up to the 3.4.
To comment on the first part of your video, my 85 manual will start any time I turn the key. They never had a clutch start cancel button. That was another thing Toyota had to add for Americans along with IFS and auto locking hubs to keep them from crying. I also have factory cruise control. It is not as rare of a feature for 80s vehicles than you think.
Regarding the 22RE. It is a good motor but should not have been used in anything above a standard cab 2wd truck. It's perfectly suited for one of those. The 4runner was way to big and heavy for the 22RE. It's a total dog in the 4runner. I personally think it has a better reputation than it deserves. Besides needing a head gasket and timing chain too frequently, it has way too many strange sensors and timers that are getting hard to find. Also, the harness has solder connections that don't age well. Like the 3.4 to the 3.0, the 2rz/3rz motors are vastly superior to the 22re. All you have to worry about with those is adjusting the valve clearance every 60k or so as they tighten up over time.
@@liveoak7838 wow. This might be my longest comment yet. Great background from an obviously knowledgeable viewer. Thank you.
with my 88 4runner I opted to replace the 22re with a 2tr-fe. Modern efi and hydraulic lifters. I will never have to touch the valves in mine and parts are easy to obtain.
2TR-FE is a great motor, the dual vvti makes it even better. I would like to get my hands on one of those someday
It's a fully optioned SR5 and doesn't have the inclinometer?
My 85 with the 22RE has a cam and header and it moves along well. Not underpowered at all. My biggest complaint of my truck is no cup holders and washing the inside of the rear window 😊
The inclinometer stopped after 1987
Nice truck! It looks like the patina on the exterior from the first video is gone. Did you paint it yourself?
I found a local paint shop that did a great job. It wasn't cheap. But it was well worth it. The truck looks brand new now.
My 86 is at the mechanic now getting some new and some used steering and front suspension parts from a 94. It will probably be going back to get the rear end and leaf springs from that 94 later.
I had an ‘88 & that amount of play in the steering is not normal & is obviously attributed to the age of the truck among other possibilities. Cruise control in a late 80’s vehicle was not a rarity by any means.
Where did you get all your interior replacement parts
especially the dash
I saw your link for the Jensen CarPlay unit, but could you share any advice for mounting it? Thanks!
@@bruce949 I would definitely find the right harness adapter and buy it with the unit so you don’t have to cut any wires. Otherwise it mounts quite easily.
On my 85 SR5, there is no clutch start canceled button so I could start mine in gear if I wanted
I used that feature to get mine off the road with the starter motor when my timing chain blew.
How did you get keyless entry? Im tired of reaching over to unlock the other side.
I think the top weighs closer to 200 lbs. 3 people to remove it is ok, 4 is better if you have that many available to ensure no body damage.
Did it myself... did scratch the corner of my 4runner. Two people for sure you can do it if you need to. It IS heavy as f though
I just yanked mine off and slapped a softopper on. Sold the hardtop for $200 on marketplace.
@@GratefulEd907how does the soft top fair in cold weather and rain? Leakage? Thinking about doing the same 24/7
@@ryangosling5821 i bought it because my rear window was busted out and the tailgate has a big dent so to get a new window I’d have to replace both. I’m in Alaska and last winter the heater kept up enough to keep me from freezing without a back window when I drove it so I’m sure this winter will be better. It’s been on there through some pretty heavy rain and no leaks so far I really liked it when I got it and the longer I’ve had it the more I like it. Well worth it in my opinion.
I had an 1986 bought new and yes the 22RE was a dog in every driving situation. Freeway speeds were pitiful after they raised the speed limit to 65.
I'd love to buy your truck!
Our ‘87 emergency/Parking break wire broke and we can’t get a replacement. Looked everywhere, even online in Japan. Any ideas anyone ???
I got mine from the dealership probably two years ago, should still be available
Do you have a link for that CarPlay system?
@@ryangosling5821 sure thing. This is it:
amzn.to/3yu9Fcm
We’re did you get the restoration done at ??
@@user-wk8gg2uj8b did everything but the paint and suspension work myself in my garage.
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I own 2 first gen 4runners. A use version and a Japan version. I would sooner pay for a complete car rebuild than buy a new car.
Did you ever figure out the touch screen display on evulition golf cart
lol. What is this a crossover episode?
Thanks for following. The short answer is no. I tried a couple of units but decided it didn't make enough sense given the oem screen was working okay and I technically don't need CarPlay in my golf cart.
Good bye paint