You can really feel the contempt for spidey in this one.. it’s not enough that he’s been completely nerfed, it’s like he’s never been in a fight before.
@@riegen. In a world with superheroes and villains casually walking around I think it might not be a stretch to say they may create super-durable handcuffs.
@@Kristian-jk2ww That was added to show how nerfed he is. Titanium is nothing to Spiderman, he can tear through that with his finger tips like a strong man tearing an aluminum can in half. the "maybe adamantium if anyone is asking" was basically a joke saying when he tells the story they will be adamantium shackles. Thing is, it is just bad writing, Spiderman can lift an entire crumbling apartment building with his spider strength, he has done it numerous times. They had to nerf him several times over for a punk like Tombstone (as he was written in this) to be intimidating. They wanted a "haha Tombstone is so cool he outwitted Spiderman" moment because the woke pieces of shit at Marvel hate Parker for being a cis white male. But for their shit tier "writing" to make sense they need to nerf Spiderman or Tombstone couldn't outwit because he would have been KO'd in 3.2 seconds.
Yea, that is about the only way I could buy this crap. A young, inexperienced Spiderman, or maybe a Bane/Batman scenario where Spiderman has been up for six days fighting other villains and is totally exhausted.
The same inexperienced Spiderman who fought Sinister Six what the hell bro💀. My man Batman fought a machine Fail Safe which has all of the powers of Justice League, His tactial mind and 127 fighting style and still won. Spiderman is now losing to street thug's and 79 year old Vulture 💀💀.
It seemed that way, but after watching the video, Spider-man was actually begging for the lives of the civilians he thought were going to be killed, not his own.
if it helps half of it was him pleading to save the civilians, the other half was him pretending to plead so he can get one last surprise attack on him as he explained in his inner monologue
Seems more like he was begging for the massacre not to happen which lines up with his character. I could see Peter easily swallow his pride and beg if it's to save innocents.
@@KenMugen8 Spiderman has insane super strength, he holds back, he can kill any human/monster with one punch, he just doesn't want to kill anyone. Titanium is NOT going to hold him down, This is the same man that held up a whole building, A BUILDING
Spider-Man's OFFICIAL strength is 10 tons. Tombstone's OFFICIAL strength is 6 tons. The writers totally ignore Peters limits so why not totally ignore Tombstones? and no, Peter cannot tank punches from the Hulk. We all know what comic you're talking about and it's obvious Hulk let Pete take his frustrations out on him. Banner didn't even feel those punches.
@@DrClawizdeadI think you miss the overall point. Tombstone shouldn’t be crushing Spider-Man’s ribs or catching him in cqc. He definitely shouldn’t be tanking hits from Spider-Man. Those strength ratings unfortunately were not canonized.
So if you wanted to make the story work, would you get Wolverine and Thor on Tombstone's side to be capable of knocking Spiderman out? Since it's clearly not possible for Spiderman to be weaker than his strongest incarnation, for... why exactly? Could it perhaps be that his peak feats are actually misinterpretations of his power level?
Its like yeah we realize spiderman holds back because when doc ock had his body he was like dang spidermand holds back a lot i cant kill most of his villians with a punch. so sure if you want to make him get takken down by story plot fine but at least make it a little bit more believable.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 Ayo look, if a inter-dimensional being that's sole purpose is killing you because you got bit by a radioactive spider - that shit would be in your subconcious (if you had good writers)
Hell, no Spiderman can't take punches from the Hulk. Hulk once punched Carol Danvers into the atmosphere. Carol is way more durable than Spider-Man. I love Peter, but you guys are overestimating him.
@@yesyes2736 So what? Its not like powerlevels of pretty much all comic heroes and villains are constantly shifting around. There are versions of the hulk powerfull enough to destroy planets for fun. In others he can get beaten down by a guy in a robot suit. Superman would be the prime example, sometimes he can literally sneeze whole solar systems away, while in most versions pretty weak opponents in comparrison can at least draw blood.
Well, it's obvious that the writers wanted to portray a villain being capable of outsmart a hero, and that itself is not bad, actually it works to show that heroes are not flawless, which makes them more compelling and the villains look more competent. Yet it's so wrong when it is done by nerfing the characters to the point of absurdity. Spiderman, being so fast and strong as he is, he would have taken out Tombstone in melee any day of the week. If they truly wanted to make this works, they should have use something like a sleep gas or something that could work on a closed space while Tombstone put on a mask. And the icing of the cake, is Peter begging for his life, to add further humilliation to the character.
Here's the thing though, you think the premise is faulty because you think that Tombstone is some random Spiderman villain, but that is far from the case. Tombstone has always been one of Peters toughest opponents over the years, Tombstone has never made any of their fights an easy affair especially with his borderline indestructible skin. If anything Tombstone was the one who got nerfed in this story because Peter was actually able to draw blood with his punches, something Peter can't normally do even at his best.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788the dude who can break the 3rd strongest marvel, stops trains, can life helicopters, take punches from the LITERAL hulk struggles some dude with white skin who is just stronger then an average person?
@@seanbrown7083 Yes, because Tombstone is just that tough. Even guys who can compete with Venom in strength like Darkhawk can't even scratch Tombstone, and Venom is only a step or two below guys like Juggernaut.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 I'm not saying that Tombstone is a random mobster, he's been around for a really long time as one of Spidey's villains. I know he's tough, I know he's durable, he's pretty dangerous. But Spiderman Is not this weak either.
Spidey thinks that Tombstone is about to kill HUNDREDS, because of the insult that Spidey dealt him earlier. Breaking down and begging is a much more realistic answer than useless bravado
when you remember that spiderman can lift 30 cars in each hand with his maximun power but cant stop a random ganster Edit: i know he aint a random ganster yeez, but this is the same guy who can fight for days without resting againts morlum, someone way more powerfull than tombstone, as well as having literaly unbelivable feats of strengh that would leave him in the dust (the 30 cars in each hand is accurate, and it could even be trucks) and yet he gets humiliated by a minor villan who got beat up by daredevil and the punisher
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 tombtone can lift a maximun of 6 tons, spiderman can lift 50 times that in extreme circunstances, if you truly belive that, you really underestimate spiderman, also, he beat up kingpin really easily, the dude who won againts doctor doom, the only prove that he could beat spiderman is this comic in specific, wich seems to forget how strong spiderman is for the plot
@@hugzar9797 Tombstone fights on an entirely different level than Fisk, Peter has to hold back significantly in order to not hurt him too badly, Tombstone on the other hand is so tough that Peters punches can't even scratch him and end up causing more damage to Peter than Tombstone. Also Fisk beating Dr. Doom was one of the biggest outliers in comic history, up there with Spiderman somehow beating Firelord of all people one on one.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 yes, spiderman always holds back, if he didnt hold back with frisk, he would have been dead by the first punch, he went there to beat him up, not kill him, also, in where has tombstone beaten spiderman in a case that he was not holding back? cause there are not a lot of cases where he does anything important, meanwhile frisk is more or less as phisicaly strong as captain america, and tombstone is 12 times as phisicaly strong as bouth, but that still is nothing compared to spiderman, you cant just out endure spiderman when there is such a difference, and even in here, spiderman was cornered and trying to stop two hidraulic pistons, wich can have the force to lift hundreds of tons
@@hugzar9797 Kingpin isn't just as strong as Captain America, he is just out and out stronger than Captain America and every Super Solider he has ever gone up against. As for Tombstone, not only do both Peter and Ben Reilly hurt their hands fighting the guy but he can effortlessly tank hits from Darkhawk who can compete with Venom in strength, and Venom operates on an entirely different level of strength than Spiderman.
I can’t believe Peter got nerfed this badly thanks to Zeb Wells’ awful run. This is the same character who beat Carnage/Norman Osborn while protecting two kids with his bare hands in the last run, went 1v1 against Morlun (who killed multiple alternate Spider-People) twice, survived getting the crap beaten out of him by a phoenix powered Colossus and Magik while making jokes at them, lasted two weeks being buried alive in a coffin by Kraven and can lift up to 10 tons according to the main Marvel site (which is almost as much as a tank)
Don't forget in the ultimate comics Peter at *15* years old was strong enough to whoop all of the sinister 6 at the same time with a bullet in his chest He only lost the fight cause they dragged it on literally all day so he was fighting from Sun rise till nightfall
*Ain't no way Spidey lost to a bear hug against f*cking Tombstone. He literally could've webbed him up or just held both his arms and he would've been able to do shit.*
@@joshualam9746 Thank goodness a street level gangster moves faster than Electros lighting hits harder than Luke Cage and Pete is so dumb a fake pro wrestling move leaves him crippled. God I hate comic book writers today and want them to just fold leaving these icons untarnished by the stupid idea of the week
@@RX-93-2 If Tombstone could take out Spiderman he shouldnt be fighting for scraps on the streets of NYC he should be fighting the Avengers since Spidey himself can beat whole teams on his own and heralds of Galactus
apparently this is the same spider-man who lifted a plane on his back to stop it from crashing the same spider-man who is strong enough to punch someone's jaw off the same spider-man who can withstand punches from the hulk they did my boy soooo bad
Tombstone has been one punched by spider-man before. The guy can survive direct hits from rocket launchers unscathed. There is no way he beats spidey that easy. This writer did not do his homework.
@@kingol4801 he's city level. And no its not the justice league effect. He's always been strong as hell. He fought the F4 in his very first comic and made a joke of them. Fought the Avengers when he first met them and made the X men look like amateurs. Spiderman is considered a mid weight in terms of stremght and is alongside characters like Silver Surfer, She Hulk and Ghost Rider. You can find the officialy scan on the internet He was never meant to he Cap or Daredebl level...like EVER. Even back when he was just introduced only Hulk, Thing, Thor and Namor were the level of characters considered above him He consistently wiped the floor eith She Hulks rival Titania in the comics
I've read books where Spiderman fought the Hulk. Spiderman didn't win but he did put up a decent fight. Has Tombstone ever been stronger than Spiderman? I know that Spiderman plays around with his opponents too much but he just took a beatdown in this one. The fight made no sense to me. However I don't know what any of us can do about the outcome.
Not only would Spiderman simply _outclass_ any of these posers, but even if he somehow screwed up that bad and got caught, he could simply _pull the shackles apart._
@@inkchariot6147 if you could break out on me you would . But you got to understand where the leverage was at . The way Spiderman was situated .. it would been hard for him to use his strength the way he wanted to break out of it . Keep in mind that level of titanium was able to whole hulk before .
Rule guide to making Spider-Man suffer: Step one: nerf him harshly Step two: make his life a living hell and loose and be tortured by people he can easily beat in one punch.
Bro spider-man would NEVER get packed up like this 😭 the writers hate spider-man istg, but spider-man didn’t beg for his life because he was scared, but because he knew if he died innocent people would die.
Spider-man comics really aren't the same anymore, spidey just keeps taking L's and L's and the story doesn't really have any real direction anymore, or happy ending in sight.
It’s just crazy how they had Spider-Man this weak in this comics like he’s literally able to fight dang they’re god level threats and he gets beat up by a gang member😂
Well has Captain America ever survived a shot to the head? Guess you can't kill Captain America with headshots anymore. Has Hulk ever shrugged off a nuke? Guess you can't knock Hulk out with anything short of a 50 Megaton punch, so Thor and Ironman are incapable of subduing him.
@@DrClawizdeadsure tombstone is a skill fighter w super human strength/durability. But this dude aint no ironman, Venom or Captain america. In one issue spidey is agile enough to tussel with the Thing and captain head on. But tombstone is an issue.
@@dallasdean4115 Tombstone is indeed an issue in an enclosed area where Peter is always within arms reach. He is more than capable of breaking bones and crushing internal organs.
Why isn't he breaking the handcuffs? Oh, the writers were set on making him suffer so they lowered his powers. /edit - never mind he got saved 11:06 /I like this version of spidey, the version where he punches the hulk in orbit is ridiculous.
i hate how inconsistent spiderman's strength is like in some comics he can lift multi storied buildings and in others just gets beaten up and captured by a street level supervillain
@@WeAreInYourWall Spoken like somebody who hasn't read a Spiderman comic in thirty fucking years, let alone paid attention to what continuity this one is supposed to be a part of.
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Crime Master saying "Thank God!" got to me. 😂 Also, this can't be the same Peter that fought the sinister six on multiple occasions with injuries and lacerations all over the place.
I liked tombstones plan actually. It was a good one by him and I could see spidey falling for it. But he should have been able to get out of those cuffs. And why wasn’t his spider sense gonna work?
Spider- sense only works if Peter is in danger. The guy helped peter so he was in no danger from him. Also, those cuffs were titanium or possibly adamantium. Peter could got out of them if they were either material.
@@DrClawizdeadanyone else remember Way Of The Spider when Peter lost his sense for a while and relied on his own spider martial arts he created with Shang chi? When it came back it was even better than previous, and worked in conjunction with his new martial arts. This comic is a joke lol
@@ttdttd4211One More Day is comic where Spiderman make a deal with devil JUST to keep Aunt May alive (which would costed MJ marriage and her unborn baby)
The same spiderman who can rip off someones face in an instant gets knocked out from a bearhug and can't break chains? No one cares if those are made from vibranium spidermans only weakness is his conscience..
Even though Pete was nerfed and this run is hot and utter garbage and will forever be a stain on the spider-man legacy, you did an amazing job on the voiceovers and the video overall🙏🏽🙏🏽🔥
It’s wasn’t too bad, it was trying to be dynamic with with bad guys, making them more competent and compelling that they can screw with spidery, but yeah he got nerfed real bad.
This is AMAZING. You know, I've been a superhero fan for years and really want to get into the comics...but I'm the type of person who needs to hear the voices of the characters, sound effects and music to be engaged. For that reason, I've always loved motion comics, but those are few and far between. What you're doing is GENIUS - you're basically making condensed motion comics with narration, using more modern issues. I can see this is made with immense care and respect for the source material, especially in terms of the editing and voice acting. You're doing God's work, my friend, spreading awareness of these often-overlooked stories. Channels like yours are definitely going to aid the comic book industry and let people know just how great a lot of the books are. Judging by how well manga and anime have done, I can't help but feel Marvel and DC would be doing far better if they just adapted these stories word-for-word like anime does for manga. If Invincible is any indication, faithful adaptations can be successful and lucrative. Oh, and you earned a subscription from me. I'd like to see you do even more of these types of videos in the future.
This is a Spider-Man from a different universe, Right?. He can fight all the Avengers, take on Thanos and the Hulk plus he's a Scientist but can't fight and out smart a gangster.
Wait what parts AI? The voices/editing or what? I'm just so impressed by these vids and I can't wait to see how AI is gonna keep pumping out entertainment in the future (I don't think I'll live long enough for it to destroy the world, literally born at the perfect time).
@@nickdavis5420 No, the Rhino is base Hulk level, and Peter can barely slow the Rhino down in a direct contest of strength. Spiderman being at all comparable to Hulk is poor writing on par with Spiderman beating Firelord one on one and Black Panther choking out the Silver Surfer. In most comics Peter can't even scratch Tombstone no matter how hard he hits the guy, his punches end up hurting himself more than Tombstone.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 that’s basically not what the official stat books say . Spider man is holding himself back too his detriment every spider man that doesn’t clears their rouges gallery.
@@nickdavis5420 he absolutely does not clear his own Rogue's gallery, I can name a dozen villains off the top of my head who can and have taken Peter at his best off the top of my head. 1. Venom and every other Symbiote 2. Cain and every other evil Spiderman clone 3. Sandman 4. Morbius 5. Morlun and every Inheritor 6. Hydro Man 7. Tombstone 8. Rhino 9. Molten Man 10. Lizard All of these guys can and have taken Peter at his best or at bare minimum have physical stats that Peter can never hope to match
That music playing while spider man talking to himself in his head while he in chain while the dude had the gun at his head ....suits the intense dark moment it perfect ✨💯
are you seriously going to tell me he not only got captured by tombstone he also couldnt bust out of cuffs??? spider-man, the guy who can lift 60 tons effortlessly and has staggered the hulk with his punches, losing to a 2 tonner? shit's wild
What the heck. Peter literally fights around with the hulk on occasion and he got jumped by tombstone. Damn the stories of him getting nerfed and shitted on are true
Hope Tombstone joins the mcu someday, these lesser known characters deserve some credit, if they can do it with the spot they can definitely do it with Tombstone
Amazing voice acting and montage. Imma subscribin' now. PS: but I don't get something from this comics story. HOW ON EARTH Tombstone was strong enough to crush Spidey ribs and make him unconcious? I get it he have some strenght, but isn't Spidey way hardier in durability terms?
@@ryice944 I'm suprised because of feats of Spidey. He lifted that one time ruble weighting several tons. I would imagine that did put much more strain on his muscles and bones than hug from Tombstone and he did not break back then. Also Spidey fought people from several weight classes higher than him in terms of raw power. Of course he mostly dodges attacks, but I would imagine he is much durable to not get one hit by cosmic entities etc... Handcuffs also seems iffy to me, but maybe there were mixed with adamantium as Spider joked xD. And maybe I'm not just familiar enough with Tombstone and I'm downplaying his strenght.
10:12 What was the truck made out of? Cause he just busted through a vault door like it was nothing, so why couldn't he bust through the truck? Like, bust through the truck with the guy tombstone was going to kill, stop the truck, and fight tombstone in the open where he will probably win.
I didn't even watch the video, I just read the title and just clicked on it just to see the comments and it looks like there's a lot of people that are thinking the same thing as me..
You can really feel the contempt for spidey in this one.. it’s not enough that he’s been completely nerfed, it’s like he’s never been in a fight before.
he legitimately can’t break out of steel freaking handcuffs…..yeah i am done
@@pablogomesoliveira2677 literally Spiderman in this very comic: made of titanium, maybe adamantium.
@@Kristian-jk2ww the thing is, where the heck did they even get a handcuff made out of titanium or adamantium?
@@riegen. In a world with superheroes and villains casually walking around I think it might not be a stretch to say they may create super-durable handcuffs.
@@Kristian-jk2ww That was added to show how nerfed he is.
Titanium is nothing to Spiderman, he can tear through that with his finger tips like a strong man tearing an aluminum can in half.
the "maybe adamantium if anyone is asking" was basically a joke saying when he tells the story they will be adamantium shackles.
Thing is, it is just bad writing, Spiderman can lift an entire crumbling apartment building with his spider strength, he has done it numerous times.
They had to nerf him several times over for a punk like Tombstone (as he was written in this) to be intimidating.
They wanted a "haha Tombstone is so cool he outwitted Spiderman" moment because the woke pieces of shit at Marvel hate Parker for being a cis white male.
But for their shit tier "writing" to make sense they need to nerf Spiderman or Tombstone couldn't outwit because he would have been KO'd in 3.2 seconds.
Spiderman would never screw up this bad, not even on his worst day. Clearly the writers are favoring Tombstone in a new way.
Considering one Spider-Man snapped Gwen Stacy's back by mistake, I disagree.
@@SchafferSaurus it was his first time with that maneuver VS fighting against a lot more dangerous enemies for years. They are not the same 😅
This feels like Spectacular's Tombstone stepped onto the comic page.
Feels like Garth ennis
Spiderman would never win a 1v1 with tombstone in a very closed space
This story could have been better if it was a flashback to a early career Spider-Man
Yea, that is about the only way I could buy this crap. A young, inexperienced Spiderman, or maybe a Bane/Batman scenario where Spiderman has been up for six days fighting other villains and is totally exhausted.
The same inexperienced Spiderman who fought Sinister Six what the hell bro💀. My man Batman fought a machine Fail Safe which has all of the powers of Justice League, His tactial mind and 127 fighting style and still won. Spiderman is now losing to street thug's and 79 year old Vulture 💀💀.
Nahhh
Spidey jusy got played, fair and square. Doesn’t matter how pro you are at anything, some days you just don’t win:
Still it wasn't a bad story!
@@Resident4Island Maybe he is just being nice to the Vulture. :D
I've never in my life felt disrespected for a fictional character but peter begging for his own life is crazy
It seemed that way, but after watching the video, Spider-man was actually begging for the lives of the civilians he thought were going to be killed, not his own.
if it helps half of it was him pleading to save the civilians, the other half was him pretending to plead so he can get one last surprise attack on him as he explained in his inner monologue
Seems more like he was begging for the massacre not to happen which lines up with his character. I could see Peter easily swallow his pride and beg if it's to save innocents.
@@SirDankleberry definitely if it's for the civilians, I was hoping I was wrong bc he'd never stoop to that just for his own sake
@BankaiokenX It does help, I was completely confused by the characterization
spider man begging for his life and just admitting defeat is one of the most un spider man things i've ever seen
spidey could end them gangsters of he wasn't holding back
Bro the chain is like adamatium or something unbreakable
@@KenMugen8 Spiderman has insane super strength, he holds back, he can kill any human/monster with one punch, he just doesn't want to kill anyone. Titanium is NOT going to hold him down, This is the same man that held up a whole building, A BUILDING
@@greathandsomejack this is realistic
@@MohdHussain-v9c Yeah it is, i've totally seen people swing arround with web fluid!
Writers try not to make spiderman suffer challenge (impossible)
Zeb Wells trying not to make Spider-Man suffer challenge (impossible)
honestly this one was pretty good
Zeb Wells trying to make a good spiderman comic challenge (impossible)
What about a "Try not to make Gwen the most powerful version of every hero" challenge?
@@solidsnack352gwenpool
Ok, this is the same Spider-Man who can lift a building and take punches from the Hulk, right? Right???!???
yeah and ı dont want to believe they writed this
Spider-Man's OFFICIAL strength is 10 tons. Tombstone's OFFICIAL strength is 6 tons. The writers totally ignore Peters limits so why not totally ignore Tombstones?
and no, Peter cannot tank punches from the Hulk. We all know what comic you're talking about and it's obvious Hulk let Pete take his frustrations out on him. Banner didn't even feel those punches.
@@DrClawizdeadI think you miss the overall point.
Tombstone shouldn’t be crushing Spider-Man’s ribs or catching him in cqc. He definitely shouldn’t be tanking hits from Spider-Man.
Those strength ratings unfortunately were not canonized.
@@maxim30 I got these numbers from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe which is canon. It was created specifically for this purpose.
So if you wanted to make the story work, would you get Wolverine and Thor on Tombstone's side to be capable of knocking Spiderman out?
Since it's clearly not possible for Spiderman to be weaker than his strongest incarnation, for... why exactly?
Could it perhaps be that his peak feats are actually misinterpretations of his power level?
ah yes the man who held up a building cant break out of handcuffs
buildings aren't made of titanium
@@AbominableNationhe can break every bone in someones body in 1 punch
Depends on the continuity
@@AbominableNation buildings are stronger
@@checo8383he can kill a dinosaur in 1 punch lol
The way Zeb Wells has nearly completely tarnished perhaps the most beloved character in comics within the span of mere months is genuinely insane.
He fixed him
@@carlosandleon Yeah you must love fixing things by smashing them apart and putting it back together till it’s an inferior shell of what it used to be
Zeb Wells needs to be fired.
@@carlosandleonlol zeb literally doing character assassination at this point in the comics.
why isnt he just fired at this point? doesnt marvel see that people really dont like this?
Remember when Spider-Man could ONE SHOT Tombstone with a SINGLE Uppercut...aaah good times man...good times
He definitely still can, FKN ZEB WELLS JUST HAAAAD TO NTR AND RUIN SPIDERMAN
Its like yeah we realize spiderman holds back because when doc ock had his body he was like dang spidermand holds back a lot i cant kill most of his villians with a punch. so sure if you want to make him get takken down by story plot fine but at least make it a little bit more believable.
nope, don't remember that one
@@Phantom9587fr!! i don't even remember that.
@@Phantom9587BECAUSE YOU DONT READ COMICS LMAO
Spectacular Spider-Man issue 206 open it up, or just open TASM spiral arc
Spider-Man fell for the same trap he laid for Morlun. Ridiculous.
Just because Spiderman laid that trap for some guy doesn't mean he's gonna suddenly have that trap on his mind at all hours of the day.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 Ayo look, if a inter-dimensional being that's sole purpose is killing you because you got bit by a radioactive spider - that shit would be in your subconcious (if you had good writers)
@@moriontax he's fought thousands of villains many of whom were every bit as brutal as Morlun.
His fights are gonna blend together after a while.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788
This.
Plus it was a trap he laid at the spur of the moment. Dude was tired asf too.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788very few villains he’s fought were as brutal as morlun
Spider-Man can take punches from the Hulk and put out just as much, and yet here he is losing to Tombstone. Writers, man.
Hell, no Spiderman can't take punches from the Hulk. Hulk once punched Carol Danvers into the atmosphere. Carol is way more durable than Spider-Man. I love Peter, but you guys are overestimating him.
@@Scrappy_ill_fold_ya_Doo READ THE COMIC
@@Scrappy_ill_fold_ya_Doo Bro knows NOTHING about Spider-Man
@@yesyes2736 So what? Its not like powerlevels of pretty much all comic heroes and villains are constantly shifting around. There are versions of the hulk powerfull enough to destroy planets for fun. In others he can get beaten down by a guy in a robot suit. Superman would be the prime example, sometimes he can literally sneeze whole solar systems away, while in most versions pretty weak opponents in comparrison can at least draw blood.
@@Daniel-rd6st who are the weak characters that draw blood from superman?
Well, it's obvious that the writers wanted to portray a villain being capable of outsmart a hero, and that itself is not bad, actually it works to show that heroes are not flawless, which makes them more compelling and the villains look more competent.
Yet it's so wrong when it is done by nerfing the characters to the point of absurdity. Spiderman, being so fast and strong as he is, he would have taken out Tombstone in melee any day of the week.
If they truly wanted to make this works, they should have use something like a sleep gas or something that could work on a closed space while Tombstone put on a mask.
And the icing of the cake, is Peter begging for his life, to add further humilliation to the character.
Here's the thing though, you think the premise is faulty because you think that Tombstone is some random Spiderman villain, but that is far from the case. Tombstone has always been one of Peters toughest opponents over the years, Tombstone has never made any of their fights an easy affair especially with his borderline indestructible skin.
If anything Tombstone was the one who got nerfed in this story because Peter was actually able to draw blood with his punches, something Peter can't normally do even at his best.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788the dude who can break the 3rd strongest marvel, stops trains, can life helicopters, take punches from the LITERAL hulk struggles some dude with white skin who is just stronger then an average person?
@@seanbrown7083 Yes, because Tombstone is just that tough.
Even guys who can compete with Venom in strength like Darkhawk can't even scratch Tombstone, and Venom is only a step or two below guys like Juggernaut.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 I'm not saying that Tombstone is a random mobster, he's been around for a really long time as one of Spidey's villains. I know he's tough, I know he's durable, he's pretty dangerous. But Spiderman Is not this weak either.
@@E.F5980 he is that weak, god i hate these new spiderman fans who never read a comic in their lives
Spider sense in this story: 👨🦯👨🦯👨🦯
when writters writs out of character, parkers never die attitude wouldn't allow him to say "i learned my lesson"
Spidey thinks that Tombstone is about to kill HUNDREDS, because of the insult that Spidey dealt him earlier. Breaking down and begging is a much more realistic answer than useless bravado
when you remember that spiderman can lift 30 cars in each hand with his maximun power but cant stop a random ganster
Edit: i know he aint a random ganster yeez, but this is the same guy who can fight for days without resting againts morlum, someone way more powerfull than tombstone, as well as having literaly unbelivable feats of strengh that would leave him in the dust (the 30 cars in each hand is accurate, and it could even be trucks) and yet he gets humiliated by a minor villan who got beat up by daredevil and the punisher
Tombstone is no random Gangster, Pete could punch the guy with intent to kill for hours and all he would do his break his own hands.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 tombtone can lift a maximun of 6 tons, spiderman can lift 50 times that in extreme circunstances, if you truly belive that, you really underestimate spiderman, also, he beat up kingpin really easily, the dude who won againts doctor doom, the only prove that he could beat spiderman is this comic in specific, wich seems to forget how strong spiderman is for the plot
@@hugzar9797 Tombstone fights on an entirely different level than Fisk, Peter has to hold back significantly in order to not hurt him too badly, Tombstone on the other hand is so tough that Peters punches can't even scratch him and end up causing more damage to Peter than Tombstone.
Also Fisk beating Dr. Doom was one of the biggest outliers in comic history, up there with Spiderman somehow beating Firelord of all people one on one.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 yes, spiderman always holds back, if he didnt hold back with frisk, he would have been dead by the first punch, he went there to beat him up, not kill him, also, in where has tombstone beaten spiderman in a case that he was not holding back? cause there are not a lot of cases where he does anything important, meanwhile frisk is more or less as phisicaly strong as captain america, and tombstone is 12 times as phisicaly strong as bouth, but that still is nothing compared to spiderman, you cant just out endure spiderman when there is such a difference, and even in here, spiderman was cornered and trying to stop two hidraulic pistons, wich can have the force to lift hundreds of tons
@@hugzar9797 Kingpin isn't just as strong as Captain America, he is just out and out stronger than Captain America and every Super Solider he has ever gone up against.
As for Tombstone, not only do both Peter and Ben Reilly hurt their hands fighting the guy but he can effortlessly tank hits from Darkhawk who can compete with Venom in strength, and Venom operates on an entirely different level of strength than Spiderman.
I can’t believe Peter got nerfed this badly thanks to Zeb Wells’ awful run. This is the same character who beat Carnage/Norman Osborn while protecting two kids with his bare hands in the last run, went 1v1 against Morlun (who killed multiple alternate Spider-People) twice, survived getting the crap beaten out of him by a phoenix powered Colossus and Magik while making jokes at them, lasted two weeks being buried alive in a coffin by Kraven and can lift up to 10 tons according to the main Marvel site (which is almost as much as a tank)
Don't forget in the ultimate comics Peter at *15* years old was strong enough to whoop all of the sinister 6 at the same time with a bullet in his chest
He only lost the fight cause they dragged it on literally all day so he was fighting from Sun rise till nightfall
Sure it's a different continuity but I don't think the difference between the two would be that large since it's the same character just younger again
@@ErinTemp-sn5drbullet in his side and even then man had the amazing friends help him
@@ErinTemp-sn5drultimate spiderman is far weaker than 616
Peter hasn't been as low as 10 tons in a very long time.
*Ain't no way Spidey lost to a bear hug against f*cking Tombstone. He literally could've webbed him up or just held both his arms and he would've been able to do shit.*
He could of web tombstone’s face and get him off balance?!
Or he could just...
Move Tombstone's arms aside?
Dude could turn him into origami.
@@joshualam9746 Thank goodness a street level gangster moves faster than Electros lighting hits harder than Luke Cage and Pete is so dumb a fake pro wrestling move leaves him crippled. God I hate comic book writers today and want them to just fold leaving these icons untarnished by the stupid idea of the week
@TrollCapAmerica like I could see making him find a way to win, but it was just lame. Plus they made Peter beg which is even more out of character
@@RX-93-2 If Tombstone could take out Spiderman he shouldnt be fighting for scraps on the streets of NYC he should be fighting the Avengers since Spidey himself can beat whole teams on his own and heralds of Galactus
Spiderman is not only significantly stronger than Captain America, but also around the same ballpark of intelligence as Tony Stark.....
Teenage Peter Parker had the same IQ as Reed Richards at the same age.
@@an0rmalp3rson70damn thats crazy, really?
@@joshualam9746 yup
@@an0rmalp3rson70 Nope.
@@Ares99999 yep
Maybe Tombstone needs to threaten Aunt May and MJ. That'll give Peter some incentive.
Whoever voiced over this they all did a fantastic job. Mood was set, eyes were wide, and I want more 😁
Sounds like AI
@@chrisholladay could be Morgan Freeman one, or sounds like him
it is AI
@@UnownDepth It was an AI Keith David, worked really well I think.
It’s ai
apparently this is the same spider-man who lifted a plane on his back to stop it from crashing
the same spider-man who is strong enough to punch someone's jaw off
the same spider-man who can withstand punches from the hulk
they did my boy soooo bad
Spider-man cannot take punches from the hulk
@@train123zhe did before
@@train123z he literally has
@@an0rmalp3rson70 that's pure plot
He 'takes' those blows from Hulk and ends up with something broken.
Also, Tombstone is far more durable than Scorpion.
Tombstone has been one punched by spider-man before. The guy can survive direct hits from rocket launchers unscathed. There is no way he beats spidey that easy. This writer did not do his homework.
Looks like they're assigning heroes to haters. Marvel has fallen even deeper
Dude I love how you read this thing. Each character has a unique voice, and you even add sound effects
Bro too dumb to realize that it’s ai voice acted 💀
So Spiderman, who can go toe to toe with the Hulk in a fight, is suddenly weaker than some Gangsters, yep makes sense
Aka “Batman” effect.
Batman is street level in his comics, but S tier in Justice League comics…
@@kingol4801 he's city level. And no its not the justice league effect. He's always been strong as hell. He fought the F4 in his very first comic and made a joke of them. Fought the Avengers when he first met them and made the X men look like amateurs. Spiderman is considered a mid weight in terms of stremght and is alongside characters like Silver Surfer, She Hulk and Ghost Rider. You can find the officialy scan on the internet
He was never meant to he Cap or Daredebl level...like EVER. Even back when he was just introduced only Hulk, Thing, Thor and Namor were the level of characters considered above him
He consistently wiped the floor eith She Hulks rival Titania in the comics
Spider-Man could never go toe to toe with the hulk sentry, ghost rider and a select few can but definitely not Spider-Man bruh💀
I've read books where Spiderman fought the Hulk. Spiderman didn't win but he did put up a decent fight. Has Tombstone ever been stronger than Spiderman? I know that Spiderman plays around with his opponents too much but he just took a beatdown in this one. The fight made no sense to me. However I don't know what any of us can do about the outcome.
@@Ðåřțħ_VåďėřBase Spiderman dogwalks Base Hulk
Not only would Spiderman simply _outclass_ any of these posers, but even if he somehow screwed up that bad and got caught, he could simply _pull the shackles apart._
Those wasn't normal shackles .. they was titanium .
@@thewolverine8387"Dey wuz titanium" as if that means anything, as if Spider-Man wouldn't be able to break it.
@@inkchariot6147 if you could break out on me you would . But you got to understand where the leverage was at . The way Spiderman was situated .. it would been hard for him to use his strength the way he wanted to break out of it . Keep in mind that level of titanium was able to whole hulk before .
@@inkchariot6147 it could be adamantium as well, and he wouldn't break adamantium shackles with super strengh or not...
Jeez, the profound level of sheer meatheadedness in these comments... smh.
Rule guide to making Spider-Man suffer:
Step one: nerf him harshly
Step two: make his life a living hell and loose and be tortured by people he can easily beat in one punch.
Step 3: make Spider-Man a cuck ass bitch
Step 4: ???
Results: profit
*Lose not loose.
Bro spider-man would NEVER get packed up like this 😭 the writers hate spider-man istg, but spider-man didn’t beg for his life because he was scared, but because he knew if he died innocent people would die.
Now THIS is how you present a comic.
Spider-man comics really aren't the same anymore, spidey just keeps taking L's and L's and the story doesn't really have any real direction anymore, or happy ending in sight.
Spiderman who can endure punches from the hulk and the phoenix empowered Colossus has just had his shit kicked in by a gangster. Stellar writing here.
It’s just crazy how they had Spider-Man this weak in this comics like he’s literally able to fight dang they’re god level threats and he gets beat up by a gang member😂
If you think Tombstone is just a gang member you need to actually read comics and not get all your info from movies.
Well has Captain America ever survived a shot to the head?
Guess you can't kill Captain America with headshots anymore.
Has Hulk ever shrugged off a nuke?
Guess you can't knock Hulk out with anything short of a 50 Megaton punch, so Thor and Ironman are incapable of subduing him.
@@DrClawizdeadsure tombstone is a skill fighter w super human strength/durability. But this dude aint no ironman, Venom or Captain america. In one issue spidey is agile enough to tussel with the Thing and captain head on. But tombstone is an issue.
@@dallasdean4115 Tombstone is indeed an issue in an enclosed area where Peter is always within arms reach. He is more than capable of breaking bones and crushing internal organs.
It's a story about street level Spider-Man and a very clever gangster pulling one over on him. That's a good story, stop wanking over power scaling.
Why isn't he breaking the handcuffs? Oh, the writers were set on making him suffer so they lowered his powers. /edit - never mind he got saved 11:06 /I like this version of spidey, the version where he punches the hulk in orbit is ridiculous.
Honestly it seems like strong chains will keep him down with even just a little bit of sadness or exhaustion, like he's blocked out of his strength
i hate how inconsistent spiderman's strength is
like in some comics he can lift multi storied buildings and in others just gets beaten up and captured by a street level supervillain
He is very underrated, Spectacular Spider-man did him justice
Yes it did. dude is organized, Luke Cage X10, smart, and ruthless
man spidernman writers. spidey would never fail this bad. AND getting tricked 2 times is kinda wild
he would, he always has, and always will. youre not a spiderman fan youre just a meatrider
@@iamdanish99havocx79 absolute undisputed fax no printer, casuals everywhere crying and looking dumb.
Nah
Casual.
@@WeAreInYourWall Spoken like somebody who hasn't read a Spiderman comic in thirty fucking years, let alone paid attention to what continuity this one is supposed to be a part of.
@@iamdanish99havocx79 You're not a Spiderman fan, you're just a meatrider.
What I like the most about this channel is not just the quality of the narration. Is about that the videos are just enough to entertain on themselves, but also leave enough curiosity to keep reading the comics. And that for me, is what makes this channel so effective. Keep the superb work, hope you hit 100K subscribers soon!
whoever set up this ai gave it some perfect descriptions, the dialogue had perfect emotion, punctuation, and timing. Good job
I for one love the story and how spiderman can't bs his way out of it. It feels more realistic. He got outsmarted.
I just wanna say thank you for narrating in such an entertaining method. Please keep on good stuff.
tomb stone beat on him in one of the cartoons too… idk why they always have him beating him when he shouldn’t
Man theses spider man have the hardest lives ever can't never have a happy ending
I’m honestly so glad this channel is getting the attention it’s deserves. Much Love Comic Stories 🙏❤️
Instrumental at 7:30 is Jincheng Zhang - Observation (instrumental version)
Nah this definitely just a guy who was cosplaying as Spidey.
When the new hired writer never read spiderman comics before but they still use his works anyway
Imagine if Spider-Man didn't hold back for just 1 hour
imagine if the writers did their actual job, understood the characters and didn't hold contempt for them or the fanbase.
If spiderman stopped holding back then he will kill tombstone in one punch.
Keith David AI as Tombstone good choice. He was always the best to voice for characters that work "under the law"
Crime Master saying "Thank God!" got to me. 😂
Also, this can't be the same Peter that fought the sinister six on multiple occasions with injuries and lacerations all over the place.
imagine spidey finding out that he's bullet proof
I liked tombstones plan actually. It was a good one by him and I could see spidey falling for it. But he should have been able to get out of those cuffs. And why wasn’t his spider sense gonna work?
Because the guy wasn't going to shot him.
Spider- sense only works if Peter is in danger. The guy helped peter so he was in no danger from him. Also, those cuffs were titanium or possibly adamantium. Peter could got out of them if they were either material.
Paul screwed his sense
@@DrClawizdeadnot true spider sense gives off negative emotions
@@DrClawizdeadanyone else remember Way Of The Spider when Peter lost his sense for a while and relied on his own spider martial arts he created with Shang chi? When it came back it was even better than previous, and worked in conjunction with his new martial arts. This comic is a joke lol
bro got morgan freeman on the track
Love that he saves his cat 😂
I like this it makes Spider-Man actually seem more believable. Instead of an over power being that can’t nearly never be hurt badly.
I like how when tombstone is about to blow up he still saves the cat
I respect Tombstone for saving his cat
The voice acting and the editing is top tier honestly
It’s ai voice acting 🤓
very voice acting
Modern Spider-Man writers actually hate him.
Modern comic writers are just idiot hacks.
Oh their trying to tell us something? The baddies are in charge now .
@@ttdttd4211 They've been in charge since One More Day.
@@rivera229 I have no idea what you just said. But okay
@@ttdttd4211One More Day is comic where Spiderman make a deal with devil JUST to keep Aunt May alive (which would costed MJ marriage and her unborn baby)
I love listening to Morgan Freeman talk to me about Spidey
I always thought Tombstone was just a goon, never knew he was actually intelligent.
2:50 God, I love comic dubs. I love how much more atmosphere you add to an already amazing illustration.
I like how tombstone sounds like Keith David as he was the voice for tombstone in the first episode of spectacular spider man
I’m happy Tombstone saved his cat :)
Same
And then proceeded to execute dozens of people. So cute ☺️
@@capofantasma97 oh noooo, anyway
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you cant tell me spider man cant snap them chains if he can lift and throw a fucking bus
The same spiderman who can rip off someones face in an instant gets knocked out from a bearhug and can't break chains? No one cares if those are made from vibranium spidermans only weakness is his conscience..
Even though Pete was nerfed and this run is hot and utter garbage and will forever be a stain on the spider-man legacy, you did an amazing job on the voiceovers and the video overall🙏🏽🙏🏽🔥
It’s wasn’t too bad, it was trying to be dynamic with with bad guys, making them more competent and compelling that they can screw with spidery, but yeah he got nerfed real bad.
“There was a green door” aye, Immortal Hulk really is canon across the other comics, sweet!
Damn bro this comic is good, I actually believed it. Had me stop everything I was doing. Amazing voice acting too, great editing.
Soooo...the BIG TRAP is locking Spider-Man in a van? You know he could tear through that like tissue paper...right?
Tombstone is just built different. He gave the cliche ''time to reveal my whole evil plan'' to completely manipulate Spiderman
I like this guy's voice
It's an AI-generated voice set. Fitting selection.
@@jack-exzolt9858 do you have any idea what site or software does he uses?
“Lions don’t deal with hyenas.”
Scar: “Are you sure about that?”
To be fair he wasn't a real lion (not at heart). He was more of a hyena in a lion's body.
@@PartStupid true
This is AMAZING. You know, I've been a superhero fan for years and really want to get into the comics...but I'm the type of person who needs to hear the voices of the characters, sound effects and music to be engaged. For that reason, I've always loved motion comics, but those are few and far between. What you're doing is GENIUS - you're basically making condensed motion comics with narration, using more modern issues. I can see this is made with immense care and respect for the source material, especially in terms of the editing and voice acting. You're doing God's work, my friend, spreading awareness of these often-overlooked stories. Channels like yours are definitely going to aid the comic book industry and let people know just how great a lot of the books are. Judging by how well manga and anime have done, I can't help but feel Marvel and DC would be doing far better if they just adapted these stories word-for-word like anime does for manga. If Invincible is any indication, faithful adaptations can be successful and lucrative. Oh, and you earned a subscription from me. I'd like to see you do even more of these types of videos in the future.
Bro seriously needs to start dubbing Spawn comics with that voice! Simply amazing!
I can listen to Morgan Freeman talk about comics all day
@0:33 I thought his name was “Meat Digger” at first 😂😭
For all you guys thought that he was begging for his life, it was actually begging for the civilians' lives.
He was still begging knowing he was at defeat
...that is better, but still not great when the context is him being nerfed to hell
Reading comprehension
That's the Big Man right there... Boy, Spectacular Spider-man was a freaking perfect adaptation!
This is a Spider-Man from a different universe, Right?. He can fight all the Avengers, take on Thanos and the Hulk plus he's a Scientist but can't fight and out smart a gangster.
this story was so fk cool bro, this is my first tyme seeing comics like this , well done
Saving Kareem gave him good karma
Out of all the uses of AI, this, by far, has to be the BEST use of it.
Wait what parts AI? The voices/editing or what? I'm just so impressed by these vids and I can't wait to see how AI is gonna keep pumping out entertainment in the future (I don't think I'll live long enough for it to destroy the world, literally born at the perfect time).
@@tommytherunner The Voices, for the most part. If the editing was AI then I need to make some calls...
Yea tbh it would be cool to hear comics narrated by popular voice actors legal concerns aside. And if comics were actually worth shit these days.
Where'd you find out that it's AI being used for the voices?
@@SQ-wx4st ... You can't tell????
Man he’s no where near as strong as Spider-Man ridiculous
No but Tombstone is way more durable than Peter could ever hope to be.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 oh for sure but Pete is base hulk strong .
@@nickdavis5420 No, the Rhino is base Hulk level, and Peter can barely slow the Rhino down in a direct contest of strength.
Spiderman being at all comparable to Hulk is poor writing on par with Spiderman beating Firelord one on one and Black Panther choking out the Silver Surfer.
In most comics Peter can't even scratch Tombstone no matter how hard he hits the guy, his punches end up hurting himself more than Tombstone.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 that’s basically not what the official stat books say . Spider man is holding himself back too his detriment every spider man that doesn’t clears their rouges gallery.
@@nickdavis5420 he absolutely does not clear his own Rogue's gallery, I can name a dozen villains off the top of my head who can and have taken Peter at his best off the top of my head.
1. Venom and every other Symbiote
2. Cain and every other evil Spiderman clone
3. Sandman
4. Morbius
5. Morlun and every Inheritor
6. Hydro Man
7. Tombstone
8. Rhino
9. Molten Man
10. Lizard
All of these guys can and have taken Peter at his best or at bare minimum have physical stats that Peter can never hope to match
That music playing while spider man talking to himself in his head while he in chain while the dude had the gun at his head ....suits the intense dark moment it perfect ✨💯
Spider man saving people: 🗿
Tombstone saving cat: 😄
Love this! Felt like a good, old fashioned PETER PARKER, THE SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN story!
This was fantastic, wish we can get more of Tombstone in comics
That motion comic is very good
are you a marvel comic writer?
This production is actually fire, you even added sound effects broo
“Adamantium if anyone asks” was pretty funny
are you seriously going to tell me he not only got captured by tombstone he also couldnt bust out of cuffs??? spider-man, the guy who can lift 60 tons effortlessly and has staggered the hulk with his punches, losing to a 2 tonner? shit's wild
Lmao yes 😂
@jonathandeza7718 its so stupid i cant💀
What the heck. Peter literally fights around with the hulk on occasion and he got jumped by tombstone. Damn the stories of him getting nerfed and shitted on are true
we need another one more day. wipe this comic run out the face of the earth
You know the Comic book series is getting bad when you start to look at one more day with rose covered glasses😂🤣
Relax guys, this is just video game level Spiderman, who can get causally beaten up by ordinary thugs.
spidey kicked tombstone's ass for decades, how did he just lose to him so easily?
Hope Tombstone joins the mcu someday, these lesser known characters deserve some credit, if they can do it with the spot they can definitely do it with Tombstone
God damn... this is how Comic. Fucking Zeb.
Amazing voice acting and montage. Imma subscribin' now. PS: but I don't get something from this comics story. HOW ON EARTH Tombstone was strong enough to crush Spidey ribs and make him unconcious? I get it he have some strenght, but isn't Spidey way hardier in durability terms?
What do you think happened when a bullet comes into contact with spiderman because unlike with tomb stone it doesn't bounce off
He isn't that durable
@@ryice944 I'm suprised because of feats of Spidey. He lifted that one time ruble weighting several tons. I would imagine that did put much more strain on his muscles and bones than hug from Tombstone and he did not break back then. Also Spidey fought people from several weight classes higher than him in terms of raw power. Of course he mostly dodges attacks, but I would imagine he is much durable to not get one hit by cosmic entities etc... Handcuffs also seems iffy to me, but maybe there were mixed with adamantium as Spider joked xD. And maybe I'm not just familiar enough with Tombstone and I'm downplaying his strenght.
10:12 What was the truck made out of? Cause he just busted through a vault door like it was nothing, so why couldn't he bust through the truck? Like, bust through the truck with the guy tombstone was going to kill, stop the truck, and fight tombstone in the open where he will probably win.
I didn't even watch the video, I just read the title and just clicked on it just to see the comments and it looks like there's a lot of people that are thinking the same thing as me..