@@CRL_One you can honestly skip the water jacket on aircraft guns. Not because of weight, but because you're only firing bursts. You want a water jacket when you plan on firing for hours on end.
@@lostalone9320 I thought the question was a good one. And I was very excited to hear what his answer might be. But then he completely copped out, so disappointing. Ever since I saw it on "Tales of the Gun" I thought the Rolling block was one of the most elegant breach loading rifles. And so I promised myself I would own one, one day. But then I learned of the Martini Henry. Hero of Rorke's Drift, scurge of the Zulu's, and apparently Napal's favorite Rifle. More elegant than the Remington Rolling Block, More powerful, faster action. Ian states the Rolling block is the faster action, it is not. Even if you include the 5th model with the auto ejector, the martini Henry is still faster. To load and fire the Martini Henry, 1.drop the lever hard to auto eject the case, and cock the internal firing pin. 2. slide in a new cartridge, and 3. raise the lever to close the action. 3 operations to be ready. The rolling block: 1. Pull back the hammer. 2 flick back the action fast to eject the case. 3. put in the new cartridge, 4. close the breach. Think the Martini Henry is still the better Rifle, but I'd love Ian to truly answer the question.
@@MoxieFirearms Morning my friend. I'm in agreement that the Martini is superb. I enjoy it so much I also bought a 60's/70's conversion in .44 magnum. Done with the skill of a master gunsmith. I also have an original Peabody (now called the Peabody/Martini) but in .43 Spanish for the Massachusetts militia in 1863/64. A fantastic experience, accurate to the point of it's a tad scary for the receiving end at serious distance. I've also collected a a original 1888 Trapdoor and a steel barrel Snider .577. That is a man stopper ++ and then some. I wouldn't go near someone with this rifle. Even if they can't shoot for crap. 500+grains of soft lead with horrendous wound potential. Now this collection isn't museum quality (except the Peabody because only 2200 or so were produced in .43 Spanish, then a couple years they were rebarreled in 45/70. Mine is still in. 43 Spanish. 40+ years of collecting I've seen a lot. I'm just a worker bee. Cub electrician to maintenance director. Over decades, I have been fortunate to have known old timers born at the turn of the century. Maybe that is why I'm infatuated with earlier guns.
@@hamm6035 You talk about the Snider being a man-stopper, but you're talking about a 525 grain conical with 40-80 grains of FFg? The martini henry is a 490 grain FBSP (at least my mold is) with 100 grains of FFg. (1871-1885, 85 grains, 1886-1908, 100 grains. Case capacity of 110 grains. ) And even larger capacity with a smaller bullet. Iraqveterian8888 shoots the Martini Henry at a collection of water jugs and it destroys 12 in one shot. The snider did not preform nearly as well. Mathematically I don't see it out performing the Martini Henry. But I do admit I don't remember the case capacity of a .577 snider.
@@asdasd-ty9se Course The real answer might be the Trap Door is better, faster re-loader, easier to get ammo components. Lot of them at gun shows. Cash and carry even in CA.
@@Joshua_N-A @Joshua N. Ajang They had planned 6.5G when they were first developing/announcing the RDB. A few people still eagerly waiting for that. I wonder if either the RDB or RFB are consistent enough to warrant chambering them for 6.5CM. You'd think if they were, KT would be selling them.
KelTec guns work fine as long as you give them 3 to 6 years to work out the bugs. For that reason, NEVER buy their Gen 1 guns. Their Gen 2 guns will be what always works.
11:08 I think I’ve said this before, in one of Ian’s Pederson videos, but when John Browning calls you the most talented gun designer, that’s about the highest praise you can get.
I wish, I wish, I wish! Man, a Keltek that actually works right reliably? They've got some *really* cool ideas, and with a bit more refinement? Oh heck yes I'd buy that!
@@zaitcev0 Fair! Most of the ones I've shot have had problems in one way or another, but they're generally so cool that I really WANT them to work great! I think my favourite of their offerings is the SUB-2000, actually. I'd love a RFB as well, since I'm a lefty. They make such cool stuff, just needs a tad bit more polish generally. Not a ton, not so much that it'd send the price up through the roof, but a bit.
@@komitadjie It seems that Kel-tec seems to be the only company, which is not shy to innovate. Others just redo Stoner, Browning and Garand systems over and over. Unfortunately their guns look like half finished prototypes: too many parts, too many dirt ingress points, even screws in production guns... However, they don't seem to be aiming for any government contracts, that would require to make really streamlined gruntproof weapons, so they don't bother to invest money into making their guns "finished" and highly reliable.
Tony knows his stuff. His neopup is one of the best weapons imo. Perfect for so many situations. Every ship passing the gulf of aden needed them. 2 rounds on incoming pirate skiffs and they are done for.
I cannot say anything bad at all about the KelTec RDB17 that I have. Quite accurate & compact, even with a silencer attached onto the end of the barrel. Wanna get a CMR-30 next so I can go the “poor man’s MP7” route with that.
@@Kar4ever3 Or you could use a stronger spring? For me it looks like trying to find a problem for a solution. Anyhow magnetized guns dont seem like a good idea to me.
@@adam-k there is a case to be had about not not wanting a stonger spring because you can have a gun that is easier/ faster to load, i could see it being a thing for competition guns to squeeze out that last 0.1 percent and for larger guns that require a significant amount effort to pull the charging handle back like 20mm cannons for example Edit: could also have potential for pistols with stiff springs like small pocket pistols
I brought up how trench warfare is making a return when asked my opinion on women in combat arms/roles, I simply asked “do you believe women will be able to not have any hygiene issues in trench warfare?” And yeah. I was the odd one out in that discussion.
@@guysmith411 hygiene issues in trench warfare aren't gender specific though, it's not as if it's a non-issue for men to maintain basic hygiene or dispose of bodily waste appropriately, a few tampons or pads won't make much difference to that overall hygiene nightmare.
@@guysmith411 @Jon Prince Women only not in combat positions as radio operators or paramedic. Women and men at the same time in a combat unit are not very convenient for us. Baths are being built to solve the hygiene problem in the trenches
Knowing what military technology looks like these days (even without considering nuclear weapons), an armed conflict between major powers is a truly horrifying idea. I hope we never find out.
I genuinely think it would be a conventional war, at least for the most part. Anyone with nuclear weapons knows the level of destruction they bring, and knows that any other major power and cause nuclear annihilation right back. I think nukes would be an absolute last resort, possibly the losing side once seeing the end coming, may use them as a last ditch martyrdom.
@@shitpost4204 The Soviets incorporated nuclear weapons into their conventional war doctrine. It's not unlikely that other countries have done the same. Especially China.
Even conventional warfare between peers would be more terrifying than most people realize. Considering there are individual bullets that can punch a hole through a tank, liquify anything inside and suck it out of the exit hole of the vehicle... yeah. Take into account that the major world powers are training to fight in tunnels as a major form of combat and that many branches are trying to obsolete tanks as well as dominate the skies from space (weather that is the US forming the USSF or China figuring out that you can nuke comms satilites without violating "major" rules of warfare). Basically what I'm saying is it would be similar to ww1 in that there was an explosion of technology and no one truly understood how to use it against peers until they had to figure it out by "trial and error".
Speaking of "stolen valour", I enjoyed driving a VW Vanagon onto my Air Force base that still had the two stars of a major general next to the base sticker. I was a Lieutenant at the time and the gate guards snapped to attention. As it turned out, the general wanted more than I could afford, so I didn't buy it after the test drive.
John Moses Browning: *designs effective, elegant firearms* Kalashnikov: *designs a sturdy workhorse* Kel-Tek: *rails line of coke off a stripper’s ass* “I’m gonna make some WEIRD shit!”
electronic triggers and solenoid firing mechanisms have been thoroughly developed in the paintball world for like 25yrs now . . . and some are even dual electronic / mechanical mechanisms so there is no concern about dead batteries there
@@robertcaseydavis : I'll tell you why you should want an electronic trigger- so you can replace chemically-strict percussion caps in cartridges with simple compact spark plugs made from wire and/or metal foil. Then you just need the power source for the spark, which can be done with any system, such as a sudden-release mechanism connected to the trigger, completely removing e.g. batteries from the entire system.
As a paintball enthusiast I should stress that they are called paint markers despite common misuse, and the ballistics and behavior differ greatly from firearms. Besides mechanical backups, the electric features in the event of failure are not as drastic... since a marker is never intended for self defense.
When the Elbonian Army first switched on their experimental magnetic guns, they all flew off and stuck to the sides of their tanks. The Elbonian Engineers are still prying them off to this day ...
they did not know that basic diamagnetic material is enough to neutralize the magnetic effect outside the gun bet they use polymer for everything except the barrel
Long live The Glorious, Prosperius, Victorious state of Elbonia! The sunny country of Happy and smiling (no jolly Roger!!!) satisfied citizens (a few of them, at least)...
@Max William Lauf : Ah, but does it do well at stopping weapons fire? I say we use a pottery armor, as ceramics are excellent for dispelling the penetration energy of projectiles, and pottery is a very practical form of ceramic!
I think there might be a liability concern as well with any potential manufacturers. Most shooters and gun nerds I know would like to see how excellently an electric trigger could work.
Plenty of newer precision/Olympic style guns come with electronic triggers these days, walthers, feinwerkbau’s, etc People are still wary of them for reliability reasons, and I’ve been told “they feel like a button” but they have incredibly quick lock times I did see one that apparently used a laser like a noncontact trigger dingus
Electric, Electronic and Digital are DIFFERENT things. Even though they all use the same "working fluid" (electrons). Designing FOR reliability, "feel", immunity from external interference and other customer needs. There is your problem!
Keltec are cool... I wouldnt use one unless my life truly depended on it and there was nothing else, but I would totally buy their RDB and KSG because they are cool.
@@thomasa5619 The lack of trigger feel is a big factor for me in regards to not liking electric/electronic triggers very much. A typical micro or even snap-action switch just does not come close to a decent mechanical sear and trigger. However, mechanical key switches might be an interesting avenue for actuating an electric/electronic trigger, as they're designed with relatively high focus on tactile qualities and sensations.
A solenoid isn't very advanced, nor is it easily "de-activated" remotely. In fact you could manufacture a gun with a solenoid based trigger group which is an entirely closed system that not even EMP from a nuclear detonation would be able to affect.
@@jacobwoolf2010 It depends on the ampunt of energy behind the wave. Electronics dependant on microscopic components would be the most vulnerable to EMP, since they have the smallest conductors, and thus would burn out rather quick, as opposed to 1980's electronics that use much more bulkier components with larger conductors. Even so, all electronics are susceptible to EMP, except if protected by a barrier that won't allow electromagnetic waves of a certain wavelength to pass through.
Remember "stolen valor" only actually applies to the literal crime of attempting to use your fabricated service to get a cash, service, or physical reward. It's not a crime to larp around your neighborhood.
I don't accuse anybody of stolen valor unless they're wearing ACUs. Nobody would wear that crap unless they were trying to pass themselves off as a veteran.
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40:20 I've heard some bullseye target pistols have electronic triggers. And I have a very time believing there isn't a significant risk of the ATF deciding an electrically fired self loading gun is a machine gun.
On the engraved guns: They're probably bought as investments, the same as handbags and certain art collectors. The objects are bought because they're expected to grow in value. So they're not even really bought for the beauty of the art in most cases.
Hey Ian, great answer on the question of gatling guns. You mentioned that the navy might experiment with electric gatling guns so a large vessel could take on small faster vessels. Funnily enough, starting in around 1980, this is exactly what they did! The Navy combined an air search fire control radar, and a vulcan 20mm cannon onto essentially a giant pintle mount to create the Phalanx CIWS. This system is still in use today and is used to combat aircraft, incoming ordinance such as missiles and bombs, and to engage small, fast moving targets like somali pirate boats.
As someone purely interested in the historical aspects of your vids, the French WW1 battlefield tours were my introduction into your channel and excellent content. I love when you take control on the bus, going to have to rewatch that now! Can't remember all the details going to have to rewatch!
Interesting about the camo question. I wear camo occasionally when doing things and names and flags I dont mind, but I wouldn’t wear rank or other insignia, regimental or unit etc as I haven’t been part of that. If other people want to do it that’s up to them.
I have a bunch of military-style gear I use for hiking, but it's all in OD green because I wanted it to look like it came from an army-navy store; no camo, FDE, khaki etc.
I wore my late father's Civil Defence battedress uniform complete with rank insignia and medal ribbon to a commemorative shoot at Bisley in November 2018. As it was a uniform from a civilian organisation, I was content that I was not breaching any military protocols by doing so, but the question did cross my mind. Many folk at the event were also wearing WW1 uniform (including Ian in American WW1 uniform, of course). I didn't hear any negative comments but, as it was a somewhat obscure uniform from the cold war era I did get asked exactly what organisation it was from and generally received positive comments for having brought it along, i.e. on a day when historic uniforms were being worn to commemorate those who had served in former conflicts.
What the uniform is, what insignia, or badges are as is who is wearing it and who is looking at them...many, many variables..... the place and reason for wear is also important. There is a place and there are places not to wear military garments (of an obsolete pattern).
@@davidbrennan660 There is a method to some things as well. I wear my Grandfathers medals on Remembrance day every year, but I always wear them on the wrong chest. It is acceptable as worn like that it is a sign that they are being worn in memory of the person who won them, not to signify the wearer won them.
On the designer question, I would put Dieudonne Saive as also needing more recognition, considering his work on the FAL and Hi Power alone, while most gun people (I'd imagine) don't even know who he is.
@@jdoerr779 Im just presuming Elbonia had a lot of German gold in storadge and did what sweden did whit the stone they was supposed to ship to Germany as soon as the water allowed it aka when the war ended. Sweden well I see we got a lot of stone paid for in advance by the German Richt in storage in southern Sweden but as the RIcht is no more. Sweden: Cheap stone for sale. Western Germany: I but it all. Sweden: Sold that day Sweden got paid twice for the same stone. and I presume its the same thing whit Elbonia that and that Elbonia does not export just one or two thing that made it famus but lots of small stuff. like New zelands experts I dont know sheep (wool,living, meat), carrots and 4by12 wood planks in oak.
@@Zack_Wester Gold? Elbonia deals and dominates the Mud Market and hedge funds ( the one that has real hedges and bushes ), oh and IT support of course.
Thank you for actually linking videos in the description this time. I've already watched all of them, but that is a gripe that I've had for a long time, mentioning something and then not linking the video.
For me I would love to afford a Holland and Holland, Purdey, or some other London Best manufacture's side by side shotgun or double rifle and use it in the field. In the case of the shotgun clays as well.
I love these ... honestly one of favourite ways to spend an hour - kudos to all the Patreon questions and Ian for answering them so thoroughly and coherently ... a real pleasure :-)
I actually had an instance wearing a surplus BDU top where someone assumed I was in the military. I wear them as jackets because in San Diego they’re perfect light weight for our “winter.” I was in the drive thru line at a fast food place and the guy in front of me must have seen me in his mirror. He paid for my dinner and told the girl at the window it was because I was in the military. I felt horrible! I in turn paid for the dinner for the people behind me. I still wear the BDU tops since that’s the only time anything like that’s happened. But it is something to think about.
I have a Speak And Spell from 1998. Never replaced the batteries. Still works. I don't even know how at this point. Conversely, my brother's Sig P938 has yet to complete a range session without catastrophic failure.
Magnets also don't like being hit/impacted as this usually causes them to break and/or lose their magnetic properties so not ideal for a breach system etc...
@@mkfldargfv even a solenoid should b sealed off or ride externally with blister cover for external protection and actuator rod /firing pin , etc. only thing to be subject to ingressing debris and hot gasses
@@otterylexa4499 This. Everyone loves their NdFeB compositions, but forget the reality of temperature dependence, poor mechanical properties, and susceptibility to corrosion. Of course, there are answers to these problems. AlNiCo compositions have long been used in high reliability mechanisms (sensors/transducers, fuzes, etc). They offer good high-temperature performance and most have excellent toughness -- at the cost of relatively low strength, relatively high cost, and very low intrinsic coercivity (means they're easy to demagnetize). Once kids realize that "super magnet" doesn't mean "magic magnet", the sad confused faces appear.
Additionally “rare earth” type magnets are sintered and very brittle often breaking into fine sharp dust that is still magnetic and abrasive. It’s common for automobile alternators to use two sets of electro magnets to get around heat breakdown of permanent magnets but efficiency is sacrificed.
@@colinjohnson5515 The use of electromagnetic excitation in vehicle alternators is more of an issue of regulation and power density than it is an issue of magnetic materials -- that's not to say both aren't considerations. The voltage output of an alternator using fixed excitation (a permanent magnet) will vary with belt speed, requiring an external regulator of some sort. Devising compact, cost-effective, robust and efficient high current regulators has not always been a trivial accomplishment. By controlling excitation current, an alternator can simply regulate itself. A wound field can also potentially produce more flux than a comparable volume of e.g. AlNiCo, allowing the machine the capacity for more output power and likely at a lower material cost.
not always 100% interested in the content but the passion and flair for the presentation always gets my attention! a gentleman and a scholar as always :)
I thought that video about that gun explains the story. If you mean the bidding war over it, it is nothing but two guys outbidding each other to get what those two see as "desirable"...
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 not that. More how was an AK confiscated during the Korean War. IIRC, neither the North Koreans or Chinese had them at their disposal as of yet.
I think that also Sullivan is a bit underappreciated, as he had a bigger part in the ar-15 and scaling down the ar-10 than he is given credit for. All the credit goes to Stoner
I'd rightfully give the credit to Stoner for the AR-15, given that even Sullivan gives him much of the credit as much of the development work of the AR-15 was done by the AR-10. Sullivan does have a lot of unrecognized talent, given that he was on the team that successfully scaled down the AR-10, the M14, and the Stoner 62, resulting in the AR-15, Mini-14, and Stoner 63. Also the Ultimax.
Going to step in as a firearms designer on the two magnet questions. First the magnetic locking question. A pure magnetic lock in direct opposition to blow back would require extremely powerful electro-magnets on both the bolt and barrel extension. This has the drawback of not only adding significant weight but also requiring a powered rail system with high quality lithium battery, and a power generation system. This would be either a generator turbine assembly integrated into the muzzle component or a linear generator built into the bolt and receiver. Both designs are complex and directly couple the function of the firearm to the accessories attached to the power rail. Meaning the rail must also have redundent backups and a intelligent controller to disconnect faulty components and accessories. Electro-magnets are required because the bolt must be held closed though the highest point of the pressure curve for safe operation. Permanent magnets set to safe operation would simply never release. This produces a extremely complex system and a rather difficult sale in a world where most bulk customers do not wish to pay more than 600 USD for a firearm. The second part of the question is a magnetically aided locking system this has two main issues both with the magnets themselves. In general there are two classes of magnets iron based and rare earth based (commonly known as super magnets). Iron based have a poor force to weight ratio and rapidly lose their magnetism permeantly at the alloy's curie temperature. This is made even more problematic by the extreme proximity to the chamber required to function. Rare earth based have a much better force to weight ratio, and higher curie temperature, but are extremely fragile to shock loading. Combined with the fact that the alloys used are even more toxic than lead, and shatter into tiny shards and powder when broken. Becoming a significant health risk if blown into the operator face during use in even small quantitys. Despite these drawback with new technology magnetic assisted delayed blowback systems do have potential for development. On to the second easier question permanent magnet rifling (assuming on a smoothbore barrel). The issue is two fold first the only cost effective magnetically transparent material is aluminum. Of which 7068 aluminum is the only alloy even similar to common steel alloys used in barrels. While costing twice as much and requiring copper free bullets. The other issue is the bullet must also be a permanent magnet made almost entirely of steel. The process to create a magnet is a form of heat treatment which will also make the bullet much harder and more prone to shattering than even common steel cored bullets. This raises the issues of low barrel life because of hardened steel bullets in a aluminum barrel, and the fact that hardened steel bullets are excellent verses body armor automatically classifying them as armor piercing. While it's technically possible the barrel will be ten times the price of a target barrel with a quarter of the barrel life, and ammunition will be at least five times more expensive than quality ammunition in the same caliber. All this buys you a possible 1-3% improvement in muzzle velocity over standard rifling. This is because while friction is reduced slightly the force to spin the bullet is still taken from gas acting on the bullet. Cheers
I'd love to know Ian's thoughts on the feasibility of the M41A Pulse rifle from the movie "Aliens". Pulse-action, meaning that instead of a firing pin striking a primer, you have a small pulse emitting diode on free-floating rails. Firing 10x24mm caseless ammunition, the pulse action ignites the rounds propellant block (nitramine 50) that then launches the projectile down the barrel and the nitramine is completely burned away.
The main issue is cooling, as I understand. Brass casings help shed heat from the receiver, and a caseless lacks that. So you'd need some sort of cooling system and potentially RoF limits to deal eith hear buildup (kimd of like in Mass Efffect).
What I gather from this is that despite guns literally being Ian's job, he worries a lot less about the crazy small details that gets everyone else hung up on that prevents them from having a fun time. P.S. magnets lose their attractive force over time especially when struck, thrown, or gotten wet.
A funny parallel development thought: Paintball markers have had electronic trigger options for some time. Many also allow you to "pull through" and release mechanically.
A friend of mine, a former Turkish army commando, saw Ian’s M1 Garand scenario in action (this was back in the 1980s), when ill-equipped regular troops fought Kurdish forces with AK47s. It was a disaster, he said. Ian may want to reconsider.
Another thing to add to the idea of a magnetic delayed action: The strength of a magnet can vary with temperature. Taking a magnetic locking system calibrated for 70° F and dropping it in the artic circle could definitely cause some issues.
Back in the 90s & 00s when I was stationed with the 1st Armored Division in Germany, command would often schedule "Spur Rides" to famous battlefields and walk through them and one of the officers would describe the battle and various landmarks. The U.S. Army in Germany has drawn down greatly since then - I know, I got a European Out and went into a GS position and helped close down a lot of installations in Hesse and other places. Perhaps in lieu of a tour company you could get with one of the Army combat commanders over there and see if they might be able to host one of your tours or at least get with the tour company you use there. They were utterly fascinating trips and really gave one a true perspective of the difficulty of the battles seeing them from a ground-eye level instead of looking at them on a map or watching a video.
"We're never going to know if it's a justifiable concern unless some sort of relatively substantial armed conflict breaks out." Wish granted, I suppose.
Ian, do you know what you do? Well ill tell ya. You Run the best dang channel on history and firearms around. Thanks for being a calm place on the internet to come to. And thanks for being you brother! You inspire me to look into museums and war history as a career.
Hey Ian, just a fun note. There are 3d printed guns now that use magnets for the delay system. They are placed in the receiver along the path of the bolt and add magnetic resistance. Really neat concept worth checking out.
The Gatling gun requires spin-up time. Revolver cannons spins up faster. More throw weight up front. The use case for the Gatling on the ground is air defence. With enough tracers in the mix, we will have a death Ray.
One piece I could feasibly see magnets is, for example, in the impact buffer in an AR. I'd want it to be in a place AWAY from fouling and isolated deep inside the buffer so that it's not picking up crap from your kit/environment. It is possible, I just don't know if it would be an improvement.
42:50 There's also PP-91 KEDR, designed by Dragunov (yes, that Dragunov) in the 70's that have been revived and put into production in the 90's for use in police forces and still in limited service to this day. It's simple blowback hammer firing SMG fed by straight 20 or 30 round box magazines. There are some variations of this SMG, but they are all roughly the same. In my opinion they is absolutely adorable boxes and deserve some recognition.
Electronic firing mech sounds alot like the concerns on red dots when they came out. I remember that discussion saying you have to have iron sights...can't rely on red dots years later the argument has switched a pistol without a red dot is costing you hits on target
As a swedish airsofter i have been mistaken or asked about being in the service twice. I live in a city which has a military base and there is also an airforce base relatively close as well as military base for our equivilant to Rangers and Special Forces. And i was out in a club one night with a friend wearing a multicam bdu coat as a summer jacket. I belive i was wearing our airsoft patch which is a modified coat of arms for the county we live in. A young man approached me and asked if i was in the military and i of course said no and explained the patch and that Sweden doesn't wear multicam (except SOF). I think he knew that and wanted to see that i didn't claim otherwise. Second time was after a match and i was so hungry after so i drove to Subway wearing bdu pants and combat shirt in multicam. The woman serving me wanted to give me the military discount and i said no since i don't serve. I wasn't wearing any patches that time and explained why i was wearing the clothes and that the pattern isn't used by regular military.
@@thecommissaruk I dont know about that.i shot FT with a mk3 for 5 years,never once had a moisture ingress issue in any weather.i still have an early mk4 I hunt with regular and it get rained on all the time never been a problem for me. There are also many companies outside the UK that make electrically fired pcp rifles and pistols. Steve Harper was making them here in the UK in the mid 90's too
The 9x18 submachine gun trials proved to be a complete boondoggle for Elbonia. The Stechkin almost didn't make the Elbonian submachine gun trials due to being just a machine pistol, but was given a chance due to having a holster stock very much like the Schnellfeuer stocks already in service. The PM63 Rak was considered because the folding foregrip reminded them of the MP41/44, and the collapsing stock and easy holstering made it seem quicker to deploy than assembling a Stechkin. Plus it looks big and mean. The Bizon was considered because they mistook the helical magazine for a grenade launcher, which they didn't already have. The Stechkin performed terribly, due to Procurement neglecting to acquire stocks, thinking they could just use their Schnellfeuer stocks, which didn't fit. The Rak performed terribly due to being the Rak. The Bizon was sadly eliminated when Procurement heard "bison" and showed up with the animal. These mistakes caused the trials to be postponed, leaving the Elbonians still high and dry with no good submachine gun.
I’d be interested to know if there is any information about how the Australian No. 1 mk III SMLE Jungle Carbine prototypes performed in comparison to the British No. 5 mk I Jungle Carbine.
Hi Ian, great Q&A, as usual, and many thought provoking themes examined. I would like to expand on the issue of electronic triggers in competition. Since the handgun ban in the UK, Olympic pistol shooters had to either hold their guns and practice in Europe (often Belgium) or convert to be Olympic air pistol shooters. When I was shooting for a club near London, about 20 years ago, I was coached by one of the British Olympic rapid fire air pistol squad whose pistols (both UIT 10m deliberate and 6m UIT rapid fire) were electronically triggered. This is relatively common within both these disciplines, where all guns are subject to strict scrutineering at every competition. As long as the pistol weighs less than 2kg, will fit within a box of specified dimensions, has a trigger weight not less than 500g and is single shot or 5 shot semi-auto, depending on the competition, it is eligeable for competition, whether its mechanism is pure mechanical or electro-mechanical. I hope this helps.
For the question at around 52-53 minute, there are specific laws involving it, as well as a lot of general policy and courtesy. Like mentioned, you can wear the uniform no problem. If you wear any awards (including rank) outside a re-enactment or acting role, it can be considered a federal crime IF prosecuted... but it rarely is prosecuted.
You can wear awards in memory of the person who won them at events like Remembrance Day, but they need to be worn on the opposite chest. That signifies they are being worn in memory, and not won by the wearer.
Actually Bizon helical mag - was OK mv even good. I mean its anecdotal evidence but there is interview with Dagestan SOBR operative - and he was very fond of Bizon - first problem was that gun was issued with 1 mag per gun - it was discontinued by factory so u cant buy more , and fully loaded polymer mag was so heavy - so it can actually be broken if dropped on something hard (say concrete floor) and if that happens u get stuffed by superiors - (and maybe stuffed by situation if that happens in firefight) - that's why Bizon wasnt really popular among troops. But there was no mechanical problems with mag - it work quite reliably , mb with modern polymers - fragility when fully loaded wont be a problem.
@@colinjohnson5515 : The only reason I can think of to limit the duty cycle of a solenoid in it's specifications is if you've got a heat problem. If you have a heat problem in a solenoid that's part of a gun, then either you're using coil guns, or you need to reconsider some design choices.
It's funny you mention 4 mags being standard loadout for .308, I have an old 81 pattern 4 season jacket, aka the "Coat, Combat, GS, mk II" from the Canadian military and it can hold up to 6 20 round FAL mags. Two in each waist pocket and one in each breast pocket. The waist pockets have two sectioned off mag sleeves and the breast pockets are specifically for mags.
The answer to the battlefield electric gatling is: bring a bunch of bicycles with wire brush generators and have your drummer boys pedal REALLY FAST!
As long as we have backup bicycle operated rums, I approve.
At that point just attach pedals to the crank handle, or three sets and a gearbox
Pedal faster I can hear banjos!!! no.... wait......
@@calybri1214 the idea of someone straddling a gatling gun and pedaling their ass off to make it fire is hilarious
@@JanTuts Imagine Danny Trejo in the interwar Dutch bicycle corps.
3000 rpm out of a Vickers, even if it's not much use, is a concept that makes me feel all tingly and warm.
Hehe Vickers goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
That means it's time to top off the water jacket again
@@recurvestickerdragon At this point you'd probably need some sort of active cooling.
@@CRL_One Or cold air at 60+ mph, like on a WW1 fighter
@@CRL_One you can honestly skip the water jacket on aircraft guns. Not because of weight, but because you're only firing bursts.
You want a water jacket when you plan on firing for hours on end.
“Rolling block or martini henry”
Ian : *drinks*
@@lostalone9320 I thought the question was a good one. And I was very excited to hear what his answer might be. But then he completely copped out, so disappointing. Ever since I saw it on "Tales of the Gun" I thought the Rolling block was one of the most elegant breach loading rifles. And so I promised myself I would own one, one day. But then I learned of the Martini Henry. Hero of Rorke's Drift, scurge of the Zulu's, and apparently Napal's favorite Rifle. More elegant than the Remington Rolling Block, More powerful, faster action. Ian states the Rolling block is the faster action, it is not. Even if you include the 5th model with the auto ejector, the martini Henry is still faster. To load and fire the Martini Henry, 1.drop the lever hard to auto eject the case, and cock the internal firing pin. 2. slide in a new cartridge, and 3. raise the lever to close the action. 3 operations to be ready. The rolling block: 1. Pull back the hammer. 2 flick back the action fast to eject the case. 3. put in the new cartridge, 4. close the breach. Think the Martini Henry is still the better Rifle, but I'd love Ian to truly answer the question.
@@MoxieFirearms Morning my friend. I'm in agreement that the Martini is superb. I enjoy it so much I also bought a 60's/70's conversion in .44 magnum. Done with the skill of a master gunsmith. I also have an original Peabody (now called the Peabody/Martini) but in .43 Spanish for the Massachusetts militia in 1863/64. A fantastic experience, accurate to the point of it's a tad scary for the receiving end at serious distance. I've also collected a a original 1888 Trapdoor and a steel barrel Snider .577. That is a man stopper ++ and then some. I wouldn't go near someone with this rifle. Even if they can't shoot for crap. 500+grains of soft lead with horrendous wound potential.
Now this collection isn't museum quality (except the Peabody because only 2200 or so were produced in .43 Spanish, then a couple years they were rebarreled in 45/70. Mine is still in. 43 Spanish.
40+ years of collecting I've seen a lot. I'm just a worker bee. Cub electrician to maintenance director. Over decades, I have been fortunate to have known old timers born at the turn of the century. Maybe that is why I'm infatuated with earlier guns.
@@hamm6035 You talk about the Snider being a man-stopper, but you're talking about a 525 grain conical with 40-80 grains of FFg? The martini henry is a 490 grain FBSP (at least my mold is) with 100 grains of FFg. (1871-1885, 85 grains, 1886-1908, 100 grains. Case capacity of 110 grains. ) And even larger capacity with a smaller bullet. Iraqveterian8888 shoots the Martini Henry at a collection of water jugs and it destroys 12 in one shot. The snider did not preform nearly as well. Mathematically I don't see it out performing the Martini Henry. But I do admit I don't remember the case capacity of a .577 snider.
@@MoxieFirearms if he answers, he angers half the field. The only way he doesn’t lose is to not play
@@asdasd-ty9se Course The real answer might be the Trap Door is better, faster re-loader, easier to get ammo components. Lot of them at gun shows. Cash and carry even in CA.
These Q&As are absolute lifesavers, I work 13 hour shifts so it’s always nice to hear Ian in my ear to get me through those.
What else do you listen to?
@@RsDefcon He just repeats it on loop.
Bonus Q&A: th-cam.com/video/EEgC9Ma9d1c/w-d-xo.html
I love KelTec's wacky ideas. I wish more firearms companies were willing to take risks and make weird stuff like this
The RFB need to be chambered in something like the 6.5 CM or the 6.8 SPC.
Like FN?
@@Joshua_N-A @Joshua N. Ajang They had planned 6.5G when they were first developing/announcing the RDB. A few people still eagerly waiting for that.
I wonder if either the RDB or RFB are consistent enough to warrant chambering them for 6.5CM. You'd think if they were, KT would be selling them.
Cost/benefit can be a real bastard, thank god for crazy people with money to burn, I guess!
KelTec guns work fine as long as you give them 3 to 6 years to work out the bugs. For that reason, NEVER buy their Gen 1 guns. Their Gen 2 guns will be what always works.
11:08 I think I’ve said this before, in one of Ian’s Pederson videos, but when John Browning calls you the most talented gun designer, that’s about the highest praise you can get.
"The government is going to turn off my gun from space with a satellite" - Ian, 2021.
At last, someone has said it! :D
"Screw the feds, I'm going to drill the third electric fuse"
Don't tell Marjorie....
@@rrphantom8194 I'M RESOLDERING THE BATTERY CONTROL BOARD FOR 30 SHOT CAPACITY AND THE ATF CAN'T STOP ME
@@exploitativity Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well
*Keltek executive furiously googling Tony Neophytou*
I wish, I wish, I wish!
Man, a Keltek that actually works right reliably? They've got some *really* cool ideas, and with a bit more refinement? Oh heck yes I'd buy that!
@@zaitcev0 Fair! Most of the ones I've shot have had problems in one way or another, but they're generally so cool that I really WANT them to work great! I think my favourite of their offerings is the SUB-2000, actually. I'd love a RFB as well, since I'm a lefty. They make such cool stuff, just needs a tad bit more polish generally. Not a ton, not so much that it'd send the price up through the roof, but a bit.
@@komitadjie It seems that Kel-tec seems to be the only company, which is not shy to innovate. Others just redo Stoner, Browning and Garand systems over and over. Unfortunately their guns look like half finished prototypes: too many parts, too many dirt ingress points, even screws in production guns... However, they don't seem to be aiming for any government contracts, that would require to make really streamlined gruntproof weapons, so they don't bother to invest money into making their guns "finished" and highly reliable.
Tony knows his stuff. His neopup is one of the best weapons imo. Perfect for so many situations. Every ship passing the gulf of aden needed them. 2 rounds on incoming pirate skiffs and they are done for.
I cannot say anything bad at all about the KelTec RDB17 that I have. Quite accurate & compact, even with a silencer attached onto the end of the barrel. Wanna get a CMR-30 next so I can go the “poor man’s MP7” route with that.
"The PM63 is not a very good gun." Wouldn't that make it ideal for Elbonia?
@@lostalone9320 it's one of the coolest looking gun, if that helps
Ian has already done for them. Drachinfel their Navy and Chieftain their Armoured Branch.
The problem with magnets is that shit sticks to them. The last thing you want is metal dust accumulating in your locking mechanism
That is but one way to use a magnet. They can also rebuff eachother. Making them a possible fit in recoil reduction and shortening of a spring.
@@Kar4ever3 Or you could use a stronger spring? For me it looks like trying to find a problem for a solution.
Anyhow magnetized guns dont seem like a good idea to me.
@@adam-k Well you're not gonna work for Keltec with that attitide.
@@adam-k there is a case to be had about not not wanting a stonger spring because you can have a gun that is easier/ faster to load, i could see it being a thing for competition guns to squeeze out that last 0.1 percent and for larger guns that require a significant amount effort to pull the charging handle back like 20mm cannons for example
Edit: could also have potential for pistols with stiff springs like small pocket pistols
Or use them as a way to slow blowback actions down with less weight. Like roller delayed but with magnets.
In the war in Ukraine, both sides use body armor.But the main losses from the fire of snipers, mines and artillery. Now there is a trench war
I brought up how trench warfare is making a return when asked my opinion on women in combat arms/roles, I simply asked “do you believe women will be able to not have any hygiene issues in trench warfare?” And yeah. I was the odd one out in that discussion.
That’s not the scale where they can develop and decide to arm everyone with special AP ammo still.
@@guysmith411 hygiene issues in trench warfare aren't gender specific though, it's not as if it's a non-issue for men to maintain basic hygiene or dispose of bodily waste appropriately, a few tampons or pads won't make much difference to that overall hygiene nightmare.
@@guysmith411 @Jon Prince Women only not in combat positions as radio operators or paramedic. Women and men at the same time in a combat unit are not very convenient for us. Baths are being built to solve the hygiene problem in the trenches
@@guysmith411 everyone has hygiene issues in a trench dude
Forget the guns; we need a story about how you came across the ballinstine smoking jacket
I agree.
This is what I’m here for.
Look carefully . It’s clearly a satin tiger stripe pattern camo smoking jacket
I remember Ian previously said that his mother made it for him. It should be a comment on another of the Q/A videos
Found it. Ian responded on the video th-cam.com/video/XvQ72tmNtfI/w-d-xo.html, Q/A 18:
"Actually, my mother made it for me. :)"
The WWI site tour that you recorded was one of my most favorite videos you've ever done.
Knowing what military technology looks like these days (even without considering nuclear weapons), an armed conflict between major powers is a truly horrifying idea. I hope we never find out.
I genuinely think it would be a conventional war, at least for the most part. Anyone with nuclear weapons knows the level of destruction they bring, and knows that any other major power and cause nuclear annihilation right back. I think nukes would be an absolute last resort, possibly the losing side once seeing the end coming, may use them as a last ditch martyrdom.
That’s why rich people love proxy war so much
@@shitpost4204 The Soviets incorporated nuclear weapons into their conventional war doctrine. It's not unlikely that other countries have done the same. Especially China.
@@CarrotConsumer Goodbye Guam. . .
Even conventional warfare between peers would be more terrifying than most people realize. Considering there are individual bullets that can punch a hole through a tank, liquify anything inside and suck it out of the exit hole of the vehicle... yeah. Take into account that the major world powers are training to fight in tunnels as a major form of combat and that many branches are trying to obsolete tanks as well as dominate the skies from space (weather that is the US forming the USSF or China figuring out that you can nuke comms satilites without violating "major" rules of warfare). Basically what I'm saying is it would be similar to ww1 in that there was an explosion of technology and no one truly understood how to use it against peers until they had to figure it out by "trial and error".
Magneto is appalled by the concept of a wooden gun.
Wasn't that a fantastic 4 comic
@@Perry2186 it was also in the animated series : th-cam.com/video/x5-JVvCrGC8/w-d-xo.html
Don't forget the plastic ones in X3
I hate that I understand this reference
@@JerrodKane23 I guess it was the cartoon I remember for some reason I thought it was a comic
WW1 French tank tour sounds like great fun. Doubly so if you can bag the Chieftain as a guest tour guide.
Speaking of "stolen valour", I enjoyed driving a VW Vanagon onto my Air Force base that still had the two stars of a major general next to the base sticker. I was a Lieutenant at the time and the gate guards snapped to attention. As it turned out, the general wanted more than I could afford, so I didn't buy it after the test drive.
"whoever comes up with all the stuff from Keltec"
You mean that little toy train that hauls cocaine?
“I THINK I can I THINK I can...”
John Moses Browning: *designs effective, elegant firearms*
Kalashnikov: *designs a sturdy workhorse*
Kel-Tek: *rails line of coke off a stripper’s ass* “I’m gonna make some WEIRD shit!”
@@STRAKAZulu ...and downsize my QA department....
electronic triggers and solenoid firing mechanisms have been thoroughly developed in the paintball world for like 25yrs now . . . and some are even dual electronic / mechanical mechanisms so there is no concern about dead batteries there
@@robertcaseydavis : I'll tell you why you should want an electronic trigger- so you can replace chemically-strict percussion caps in cartridges with simple compact spark plugs made from wire and/or metal foil. Then you just need the power source for the spark, which can be done with any system, such as a sudden-release mechanism connected to the trigger, completely removing e.g. batteries from the entire system.
Did you seriously just compare your stupid paintball gun to an actual firearm...??? I'm guessing your a teenager who can't purchase firearms yet.
As a paintball enthusiast I should stress that they are called paint markers despite common misuse, and the ballistics and behavior differ greatly from firearms.
Besides mechanical backups, the electric features in the event of failure are not as drastic... since a marker is never intended for self defense.
@@Klaaism I started playing in the 80s, can't get past the lingo from then.
@@moistcakebytheocean3442 LOLOLOL omg yer so clever
When the Elbonian Army first switched on their experimental magnetic guns, they all flew off and stuck to the sides of their tanks. The Elbonian Engineers are still prying them off to this day ...
they did not know that basic diamagnetic material is enough to neutralize the magnetic effect outside the gun
bet they use polymer for everything except the barrel
The use of Prywood Armour has solved this problem on their current Main Battle Tank.
Long live The Glorious, Prosperius, Victorious state of Elbonia! The sunny country of Happy and smiling (no jolly Roger!!!) satisfied citizens (a few of them, at least)...
@Max William Lauf : Ah, but does it do well at stopping weapons fire? I say we use a pottery armor, as ceramics are excellent for dispelling the penetration energy of projectiles, and pottery is a very practical form of ceramic!
Ceramic armor would possibly help the mud-based economy as well
Gun commuinty: Wont buy an electronic trigger becuase its unreliable
also the gun commuinty: *Buys Keltec*
I think there might be a liability concern as well with any potential manufacturers.
Most shooters and gun nerds I know would like to see how excellently an electric trigger could work.
Plenty of newer precision/Olympic style guns come with electronic triggers these days, walthers, feinwerkbau’s, etc
People are still wary of them for reliability reasons, and I’ve been told “they feel like a button” but they have incredibly quick lock times
I did see one that apparently used a laser like a noncontact trigger dingus
Electric, Electronic and Digital are DIFFERENT things. Even though they all use the same "working fluid" (electrons). Designing FOR reliability, "feel", immunity from external interference and other customer needs. There is your problem!
Keltec are cool... I wouldnt use one unless my life truly depended on it and there was nothing else, but I would totally buy their RDB and KSG because they are cool.
@@thomasa5619 The lack of trigger feel is a big factor for me in regards to not liking electric/electronic triggers very much. A typical micro or even snap-action switch just does not come close to a decent mechanical sear and trigger.
However, mechanical key switches might be an interesting avenue for actuating an electric/electronic trigger, as they're designed with relatively high focus on tactile qualities and sensations.
The most powerful magnet in this video is that hair!
A solenoid isn't very advanced, nor is it easily "de-activated" remotely. In fact you could manufacture a gun with a solenoid based trigger group which is an entirely closed system that not even EMP from a nuclear detonation would be able to affect.
If an EMP can't deactivate a flashlight, it can't deactivate a solenoid.
@@classifiedad1 My only worry would be discharging the solenoid and damaging the gun that way somehow.
Why does everyone think an EMP completely Fry's ALL electronic components... It won't...
@@jacobwoolf2010 It depends on the ampunt of energy behind the wave.
Electronics dependant on microscopic components would be the most vulnerable to EMP, since they have the smallest conductors, and thus would burn out rather quick, as opposed to 1980's electronics that use much more bulkier components with larger conductors.
Even so, all electronics are susceptible to EMP, except if protected by a barrier that won't allow electromagnetic waves of a certain wavelength to pass through.
Aye of course the US military had concerns about EMP and the like when they tinkered with similar concepts, so there was extensive testing and trials.
Remember "stolen valor" only actually applies to the literal crime of attempting to use your fabricated service to get a cash, service, or physical reward. It's not a crime to larp around your neighborhood.
U mean the kids i called the police on with nerf guns for stolen valor arent criminals??
There's a difference between playing war and having fun, but using a fake persona to get free shit is disgusting
I don't accuse anybody of stolen valor unless they're wearing ACUs. Nobody would wear that crap unless they were trying to pass themselves off as a veteran.
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I was so pleased with myself that I thought “Garand” and “Glock 19” before you answered the questions about oldest effective rifle and go-to handgun.
If you end up going to France again, drop the Tim Traveler a line, you guys could do an excellent collab on public transport in WW1 and WW2.
And sunglasses! :)
40:20 I've heard some bullseye target pistols have electronic triggers.
And I have a very time believing there isn't a significant risk of the ATF deciding an electrically fired self loading gun is a machine gun.
"Free multiplier for your rate of fire". Ian, your linguistic skills are top notch.
On the engraved guns: They're probably bought as investments, the same as handbags and certain art collectors. The objects are bought because they're expected to grow in value. So they're not even really bought for the beauty of the art in most cases.
Always a pleasant surprise to see a Q&A! Thanks for the great content Ian!
Hey Ian, great answer on the question of gatling guns. You mentioned that the navy might experiment with electric gatling guns so a large vessel could take on small faster vessels. Funnily enough, starting in around 1980, this is exactly what they did! The Navy combined an air search fire control radar, and a vulcan 20mm cannon onto essentially a giant pintle mount to create the Phalanx CIWS. This system is still in use today and is used to combat aircraft, incoming ordinance such as missiles and bombs, and to engage small, fast moving targets like somali pirate boats.
A Neo-Keltec collaboration is something I never knew I needed until now...
Agreed. I love several of the designs they make but they all need finish work and that's irritating
Now ask them to make a Halo inspired gun.
@@Joshua_N-A you can turn the RDB into the battle rifle. I did it
As someone purely interested in the historical aspects of your vids, the French WW1 battlefield tours were my introduction into your channel and excellent content. I love when you take control on the bus, going to have to rewatch that now! Can't remember all the details going to have to rewatch!
Interesting about the camo question. I wear camo occasionally when doing things and names and flags I dont mind, but I wouldn’t wear rank or other insignia, regimental or unit etc as I haven’t been part of that. If other people want to do it that’s up to them.
I have a bunch of military-style gear I use for hiking, but it's all in OD green because I wanted it to look like it came from an army-navy store; no camo, FDE, khaki etc.
I wore my late father's Civil Defence battedress uniform complete with rank insignia and medal ribbon to a commemorative shoot at Bisley in November 2018. As it was a uniform from a civilian organisation, I was content that I was not breaching any military protocols by doing so, but the question did cross my mind. Many folk at the event were also wearing WW1 uniform (including Ian in American WW1 uniform, of course). I didn't hear any negative comments but, as it was a somewhat obscure uniform from the cold war era I did get asked exactly what organisation it was from and generally received positive comments for having brought it along, i.e. on a day when historic uniforms were being worn to commemorate those who had served in former conflicts.
I thought those insignia were to be removed upon retirement of the outfits from general military use?
What the uniform is, what insignia, or badges are as is who is wearing it and who is looking at them...many, many variables..... the place and reason for wear is also important.
There is a place and there are places not to wear military garments (of an obsolete pattern).
@@davidbrennan660 There is a method to some things as well. I wear my Grandfathers medals on Remembrance day every year, but I always wear them on the wrong chest. It is acceptable as worn like that it is a sign that they are being worn in memory of the person who won them, not to signify the wearer won them.
thanks
On the designer question, I would put Dieudonne Saive as also needing more recognition, considering his work on the FAL and Hi Power alone, while most gun people (I'd imagine) don't even know who he is.
Team him with Marc Birkgit, and see what they can knock together in an afternoon for laffs ;-)
So early Elbonia still had quality weapons.
So early "So early" comments were trendy!
they still have quality weapons, but they are rapidly implementing 3d printed ones
Mud prices went to hell and the rest is history.
@@jdoerr779 Im just presuming Elbonia had a lot of German gold in storadge and did what sweden did whit the stone they was supposed to ship to Germany as soon as the water allowed it aka when the war ended.
Sweden well I see we got a lot of stone paid for in advance by the German Richt in storage in southern Sweden but as the RIcht is no more.
Sweden: Cheap stone for sale.
Western Germany: I but it all.
Sweden: Sold
that day Sweden got paid twice for the same stone.
and I presume its the same thing whit Elbonia that and that Elbonia does not export just one or two thing that made it famus but lots of small stuff.
like New zelands experts I dont know sheep (wool,living, meat), carrots and 4by12 wood planks in oak.
@@Zack_Wester Gold? Elbonia deals and dominates the Mud Market and hedge funds ( the one that has real hedges and bushes ), oh and IT support of course.
Mornings are for coffee & guns, thanks Ian
Thank you for actually linking videos in the description this time. I've already watched all of them, but that is a gripe that I've had for a long time, mentioning something and then not linking the video.
If I ever win big bucks I'll buy a million dollar Tiffany colt, and I will carry it everyday out in the mountains. In an open top holster.
king shit
may as well rally race in an lambo
For me I would love to afford a Holland and Holland, Purdey, or some other London Best manufacture's side by side shotgun or double rifle and use it in the field. In the case of the shotgun clays as well.
I love these ... honestly one of favourite ways to spend an hour - kudos to all the Patreon questions and Ian for answering them so thoroughly and coherently ... a real pleasure :-)
I actually had an instance wearing a surplus BDU top where someone assumed I was in the military. I wear them as jackets because in San Diego they’re perfect light weight for our “winter.” I was in the drive thru line at a fast food place and the guy in front of me must have seen me in his mirror. He paid for my dinner and told the girl at the window it was because I was in the military. I felt horrible! I in turn paid for the dinner for the people behind me. I still wear the BDU tops since that’s the only time anything like that’s happened. But it is something to think about.
Battlefield tours would be great to see.
Also more Old West Vignettes please on InRangeTV LOVED those.
Karl was filming one the other day if I recall correctly
Saive was underrated. Finished the High Power and developed the SAFN49 which led to the FAL
I have a Speak And Spell from 1998. Never replaced the batteries. Still works. I don't even know how at this point. Conversely, my brother's Sig P938 has yet to complete a range session without catastrophic failure.
Magnets also don't like being hit/impacted as this usually causes them to break and/or lose their magnetic properties so not ideal for a breach system etc...
They don't like being hot either.
@@mkfldargfv even a solenoid should b sealed off or ride externally with blister cover for external protection
and actuator rod /firing pin , etc. only thing to be subject to ingressing debris and hot gasses
@@otterylexa4499 This. Everyone loves their NdFeB compositions, but forget the reality of temperature dependence, poor mechanical properties, and susceptibility to corrosion. Of course, there are answers to these problems. AlNiCo compositions have long been used in high reliability mechanisms (sensors/transducers, fuzes, etc). They offer good high-temperature performance and most have excellent toughness -- at the cost of relatively low strength, relatively high cost, and very low intrinsic coercivity (means they're easy to demagnetize). Once kids realize that "super magnet" doesn't mean "magic magnet", the sad confused faces appear.
Additionally “rare earth” type magnets are sintered and very brittle often breaking into fine sharp dust that is still magnetic and abrasive.
It’s common for automobile alternators to use two sets of electro magnets to get around heat breakdown of permanent magnets but efficiency is sacrificed.
@@colinjohnson5515 The use of electromagnetic excitation in vehicle alternators is more of an issue of regulation and power density than it is an issue of magnetic materials -- that's not to say both aren't considerations.
The voltage output of an alternator using fixed excitation (a permanent magnet) will vary with belt speed, requiring an external regulator of some sort. Devising compact, cost-effective, robust and efficient high current regulators has not always been a trivial accomplishment. By controlling excitation current, an alternator can simply regulate itself. A wound field can also potentially produce more flux than a comparable volume of e.g. AlNiCo, allowing the machine the capacity for more output power and likely at a lower material cost.
not always 100% interested in the content but the passion and flair for the presentation always gets my attention!
a gentleman and a scholar as always :)
I really wanna know the back story behind that Korean War AK bringback that sold for $120,000
I thought that video about that gun explains the story. If you mean the bidding war over it, it is nothing but two guys outbidding each other to get what those two see as "desirable"...
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 not that. More how was an AK confiscated during the Korean War. IIRC, neither the North Koreans or Chinese had them at their disposal as of yet.
I think that also Sullivan is a bit underappreciated, as he had a bigger part in the ar-15 and scaling down the ar-10 than he is given credit for. All the credit goes to Stoner
I'd rightfully give the credit to Stoner for the AR-15, given that even Sullivan gives him much of the credit as much of the development work of the AR-15 was done by the AR-10.
Sullivan does have a lot of unrecognized talent, given that he was on the team that successfully scaled down the AR-10, the M14, and the Stoner 62, resulting in the AR-15, Mini-14, and Stoner 63.
Also the Ultimax.
@@classifiedad1 completely agree. I never meant to put shade on Stoner, just wanted to highlight Sullivan’s work
To be fair, Stoner *is* a much funnier name
One of the hacks of the Armatix "smart" pistol is an RF jammer with a range of about 50 feet for the prototype.
Going to step in as a firearms designer on the two magnet questions. First the magnetic locking question. A pure magnetic lock in direct opposition to blow back would require extremely powerful electro-magnets on both the bolt and barrel extension. This has the drawback of not only adding significant weight but also requiring a powered rail system with high quality lithium battery, and a power generation system. This would be either a generator turbine assembly integrated into the muzzle component or a linear generator built into the bolt and receiver. Both designs are complex and directly couple the function of the firearm to the accessories attached to the power rail. Meaning the rail must also have redundent backups and a intelligent controller to disconnect faulty components and accessories. Electro-magnets are required because the bolt must be held closed though the highest point of the pressure curve for safe operation. Permanent magnets set to safe operation would simply never release. This produces a extremely complex system and a rather difficult sale in a world where most bulk customers do not wish to pay more than 600 USD for a firearm. The second part of the question is a magnetically aided locking system this has two main issues both with the magnets themselves. In general there are two classes of magnets iron based and rare earth based (commonly known as super magnets). Iron based have a poor force to weight ratio and rapidly lose their magnetism permeantly at the alloy's curie temperature. This is made even more problematic by the extreme proximity to the chamber required to function. Rare earth based have a much better force to weight ratio, and higher curie temperature, but are extremely fragile to shock loading. Combined with the fact that the alloys used are even more toxic than lead, and shatter into tiny shards and powder when broken. Becoming a significant health risk if blown into the operator face during use in even small quantitys. Despite these drawback with new technology magnetic assisted delayed blowback systems do have potential for development. On to the second easier question permanent magnet rifling (assuming on a smoothbore barrel). The issue is two fold first the only cost effective magnetically transparent material is aluminum. Of which 7068 aluminum is the only alloy even similar to common steel alloys used in barrels. While costing twice as much and requiring copper free bullets. The other issue is the bullet must also be a permanent magnet made almost entirely of steel. The process to create a magnet is a form of heat treatment which will also make the bullet much harder and more prone to shattering than even common steel cored bullets. This raises the issues of low barrel life because of hardened steel bullets in a aluminum barrel, and the fact that hardened steel bullets are excellent verses body armor automatically classifying them as armor piercing. While it's technically possible the barrel will be ten times the price of a target barrel with a quarter of the barrel life, and ammunition will be at least five times more expensive than quality ammunition in the same caliber. All this buys you a possible 1-3% improvement in muzzle velocity over standard rifling. This is because while friction is reduced slightly the force to spin the bullet is still taken from gas acting on the bullet. Cheers
I'd love to know Ian's thoughts on the feasibility of the M41A Pulse rifle from the movie "Aliens". Pulse-action, meaning that instead of a firing pin striking a primer, you have a small pulse emitting diode on free-floating rails. Firing 10x24mm caseless ammunition, the pulse action ignites the rounds propellant block (nitramine 50) that then launches the projectile down the barrel and the nitramine is completely burned away.
The main issue is cooling, as I understand. Brass casings help shed heat from the receiver, and a caseless lacks that. So you'd need some sort of cooling system and potentially RoF limits to deal eith hear buildup (kimd of like in Mass Efffect).
It's my birthday today, thank you ian for this wonderful gift in the form of a one hour long video. Awesome stuff as always!
What designers would you like to see colaborate Ian?
Ian: I wanna see some weeeeeird shit
Q&As are my farvorite part of the month! thanks for all your hard work
What I gather from this is that despite guns literally being Ian's job, he worries a lot less about the crazy small details that gets everyone else hung up on that prevents them from having a fun time.
P.S. magnets lose their attractive force over time especially when struck, thrown, or gotten wet.
Absolutely true, I do lose my attraction towards magnets if they are used to throw at me or strike me.
Struck yes, water no.
A funny parallel development thought:
Paintball markers have had electronic trigger options for some time. Many also allow you to "pull through" and release mechanically.
Ian: "We are much more tolerant when a computer fails."
Me: "Should I tell him?"
A friend of mine, a former Turkish army commando, saw Ian’s M1 Garand scenario in action (this was back in the 1980s), when ill-equipped regular troops fought Kurdish forces with AK47s. It was a disaster, he said. Ian may want to reconsider.
Another thing to add to the idea of a magnetic delayed action:
The strength of a magnet can vary with temperature.
Taking a magnetic locking system calibrated for 70° F and dropping it in the artic circle could definitely cause some issues.
Not to mention how hot the gun it's in will get after you out more than a handful of rounds through it.
Keep up the good work. Love Forgotten Weapons. You are appreciated!
"Engravings give you not tactical advantage whatsoever."
Here you are, I was looking for you.
Laughs in semi decorative serrations on the back of the slide
But they could serve as a stand in for your dog-tag should you get pink-misted
your enemies wont kill you if your gun is too cool
I love the way you put it about the electric triggers it’s just right off the tongue just comedic and absolutely true
Back in the 70s, field jackets were cheap and useful utility wear. I always stripped them so no one got the wrong idea.
Back in the 90s & 00s when I was stationed with the 1st Armored Division in Germany, command would often schedule "Spur Rides" to famous battlefields and walk through them and one of the officers would describe the battle and various landmarks. The U.S. Army in Germany has drawn down greatly since then - I know, I got a European Out and went into a GS position and helped close down a lot of installations in Hesse and other places.
Perhaps in lieu of a tour company you could get with one of the Army combat commanders over there and see if they might be able to host one of your tours or at least get with the tour company you use there. They were utterly fascinating trips and really gave one a true perspective of the difficulty of the battles seeing them from a ground-eye level instead of looking at them on a map or watching a video.
"We're never going to know if it's a justifiable concern unless some sort of relatively substantial armed conflict breaks out."
Wish granted, I suppose.
You got to always love those questions you're thinking of and someone else asks
"M1 Carbine in 5.7x28mm?"
ian give us this now
i started a war shut up
I'd like to see Ruger build a mini in 30 M1. That might be fun and cheaper than the real thing.
@Chris King 7.62x39 out of a Mini-30 has "far more power" than the same around out of an AK because...?
is the mini-30 in .30 carbine or .30 Kalashnikov?
@@Mike_Rogge 762x39 or 300 blk
@@Mike_Rogge .30 Mauser, maybe .30 Tokarev
Ian, do you know what you do? Well ill tell ya. You Run the best dang channel on history and firearms around. Thanks for being a calm place on the internet to come to. And thanks for being you brother! You inspire me to look into museums and war history as a career.
He'll go with the M1 Garand, Space Cowboy. Bet you weren't ready for that.
M2 50 Caliber is even older then the M1 Garand and is still in service, though granted its a heavy machine gun, and not a infantry rifle weapon.
Always an excellent presentation. Thank you, Ian.
US Army still issues M-4 Ammo in ammo cans with bandoliers packed with 5.56x45 on stripper clips and a loading tool to load magazines
Test polish PM-84 in 9x18 Makarov, Later models use 9x19 (PM-84P, PM-98)
I'm suprised nobody has asked about that Calico yet. Didn't he send it back for repair?
Hey Ian, just a fun note. There are 3d printed guns now that use magnets for the delay system. They are placed in the receiver along the path of the bolt and add magnetic resistance. Really neat concept worth checking out.
The Gatling gun requires spin-up time. Revolver cannons spins up faster. More throw weight up front.
The use case for the Gatling on the ground is air defence. With enough tracers in the mix, we will have a death Ray.
One piece I could feasibly see magnets is, for example, in the impact buffer in an AR. I'd want it to be in a place AWAY from fouling and isolated deep inside the buffer so that it's not picking up crap from your kit/environment. It is possible, I just don't know if it would be an improvement.
Oldest guns that will still work. M2 browning: "Am i a joke to you?"
Love the Q&A’s please try to do more frequently, thanks.
the M1 kind of makes sense, there's still some svt's kicking around, so the m1 is just a bit older
42:50 There's also PP-91 KEDR, designed by Dragunov (yes, that Dragunov) in the 70's that have been revived and put into production in the 90's for use in police forces and still in limited service to this day. It's simple blowback hammer firing SMG fed by straight 20 or 30 round box magazines. There are some variations of this SMG, but they are all roughly the same.
In my opinion they is absolutely adorable boxes and deserve some recognition.
Wouldn't a Vz.61 (Skorpion) be a better choice? That is, the variants chambered for 9x18mm Makarov.
French tank battlefield tour? Sounds like a great opportunity for you and Chieftain to get together again.
Thx for another Q&A Ian
Electronic firing mech sounds alot like the concerns on red dots when they came out. I remember that discussion saying you have to have iron sights...can't rely on red dots
years later the argument has switched a pistol without a red dot is costing you hits on target
I guess some top level ISSF shooters are already using them.
As a swedish airsofter i have been mistaken or asked about being in the service twice.
I live in a city which has a military base and there is also an airforce base relatively close as well as military base for our equivilant to Rangers and Special Forces.
And i was out in a club one night with a friend wearing a multicam bdu coat as a summer jacket. I belive i was wearing our airsoft patch which is a modified coat of arms for the county we live in. A young man approached me and asked if i was in the military and i of course said no and explained the patch and that Sweden doesn't wear multicam (except SOF). I think he knew that and wanted to see that i didn't claim otherwise.
Second time was after a match and i was so hungry after so i drove to Subway wearing bdu pants and combat shirt in multicam. The woman serving me wanted to give me the military discount and i said no since i don't serve. I wasn't wearing any patches that time and explained why i was wearing the clothes and that the pattern isn't used by regular military.
Electronic triggers and solenoid strikers have been quite common in pcp airguns for 20 years
@@thecommissaruk I dont know about that.i shot FT with a mk3 for 5 years,never once had a moisture ingress issue in any weather.i still have an early mk4 I hunt with regular and it get rained on all the time never been a problem for me. There are also many companies outside the UK that make electrically fired pcp rifles and pistols. Steve Harper was making them here in the UK in the mid 90's too
The 9x18 submachine gun trials proved to be a complete boondoggle for Elbonia.
The Stechkin almost didn't make the Elbonian submachine gun trials due to being just a machine pistol, but was given a chance due to having a holster stock very much like the Schnellfeuer stocks already in service.
The PM63 Rak was considered because the folding foregrip reminded them of the MP41/44, and the collapsing stock and easy holstering made it seem quicker to deploy than assembling a Stechkin. Plus it looks big and mean.
The Bizon was considered because they mistook the helical magazine for a grenade launcher, which they didn't already have.
The Stechkin performed terribly, due to Procurement neglecting to acquire stocks, thinking they could just use their Schnellfeuer stocks, which didn't fit.
The Rak performed terribly due to being the Rak.
The Bizon was sadly eliminated when Procurement heard "bison" and showed up with the animal.
These mistakes caused the trials to be postponed, leaving the Elbonians still high and dry with no good submachine gun.
I’d be interested to know if there is any information about how the Australian No. 1 mk III SMLE Jungle Carbine prototypes performed in comparison to the British No. 5 mk I Jungle Carbine.
@@lostalone9320 typical whinging poms
Hi Ian, great Q&A, as usual, and many thought provoking themes examined. I would like to expand on the issue of electronic triggers in competition. Since the handgun ban in the UK, Olympic pistol shooters had to either hold their guns and practice in Europe (often Belgium) or convert to be Olympic air pistol shooters. When I was shooting for a club near London, about 20 years ago, I was coached by one of the British Olympic rapid fire air pistol squad whose pistols (both UIT 10m deliberate and 6m UIT rapid fire) were electronically triggered. This is relatively common within both these disciplines, where all guns are subject to strict scrutineering at every competition. As long as the pistol weighs less than 2kg, will fit within a box of specified dimensions, has a trigger weight not less than 500g and is single shot or 5 shot semi-auto, depending on the competition, it is eligeable for competition, whether its mechanism is pure mechanical or electro-mechanical. I hope this helps.
Electro-mechanical systems are actually an advantage for airguns. You can get much more consistent velocities that way.
I find myself needing a “just in it for the pockets” shirt now
Shoulder patch on the camo with it
For the question at around 52-53 minute, there are specific laws involving it, as well as a lot of general policy and courtesy. Like mentioned, you can wear the uniform no problem. If you wear any awards (including rank) outside a re-enactment or acting role, it can be considered a federal crime IF prosecuted... but it rarely is prosecuted.
You can wear awards in memory of the person who won them at events like Remembrance Day, but they need to be worn on the opposite chest. That signifies they are being worn in memory, and not won by the wearer.
Actually Bizon helical mag - was OK mv even good. I mean its anecdotal evidence but there is interview with Dagestan SOBR operative - and he was very fond of Bizon - first problem was that gun was issued with 1 mag per gun - it was discontinued by factory so u cant buy more , and fully loaded polymer mag was so heavy - so it can actually be broken if dropped on something hard (say concrete floor) and if that happens u get stuffed by superiors - (and maybe stuffed by situation if that happens in firefight) - that's why Bizon wasnt really popular among troops. But there was no mechanical problems with mag - it work quite reliably , mb with modern polymers - fragility when fully loaded wont be a problem.
"Unless some conflict breaks out among peers" Feb 18, 2021. 1 year later...
Some type of solenoid and a timer would be a more practical way of making some electronic delayed blowback mechanism.
The cheap hobby solenoids I’ve played with all had pretty low duty cycles. I wonder if all solenoids are limited in this way?
@@colinjohnson5515 : The only reason I can think of to limit the duty cycle of a solenoid in it's specifications is if you've got a heat problem. If you have a heat problem in a solenoid that's part of a gun, then either you're using coil guns, or you need to reconsider some design choices.
Always wondered about electronics implemented in gun mechanics and why this hasn't been a thing (yet). Great answer and video!
"9x18mm SMGs"
I must have played too much Escape from Tarkov because the first thing I think of is PP-91 Kedr.
It's funny you mention 4 mags being standard loadout for .308, I have an old 81 pattern 4 season jacket, aka the "Coat, Combat, GS, mk II" from the Canadian military and it can hold up to 6 20 round FAL mags. Two in each waist pocket and one in each breast pocket. The waist pockets have two sectioned off mag sleeves and the breast pockets are specifically for mags.
M1 carbine in 5.7 spitfire on the clock! You can make this happen Ian.
Thanks for the cool video!