Q&A 56: Travel, Elbonian Snipers, and Contradictions

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    It's Q&A time again! The last one for 2021...here's to hoping 2022 is a better year for everyone.
    0:00:00 - Introduction
    0:00:21 - My passport, and customs
    0:01:54 - What countries would I like to visit?
    0:04:46 - How much FR-F2 practice did I have before Desert Brutality?
    0:06:07 - Why not half-brass rifle or pistol ammo, like in shotguns?
    0:07:46 - Why aren't there more closed bolt SMGs?
    0:09:40 - Why no more hexagonal barrels?
    0:10:53 - Forgotten Weapons videos on Amazon
    0:12:27 - "Economical" machine guns
    0:17:28 - FN49 in different calibers
    0:19:07 - Sniper rifles for Elbonia
    0:21:25 - Was there an 8mm Lebel Maxim gun?
    0:23:59 - Details on Ethiopian Oddities
    0:26:54 - Some WWSD complaints mirroring original M16 complaints
    0:29:36 - What rifle should France have made for new smokeless powder?
    0:31:13 - Choice for a 2-Gun match: Carcano, Enfield, Arisaka
    0:33:25 - Why wasn't the CETME AMELI more common?
    0:34:31 - A gun I have been searching for unsuccessfully
    0:37:32 - Why not smaller cartridges with more powerful powder?
    0:40:02 - Seemingly contradictory good guns (M3 vs PPSh-41)
    0:44:11 - How does stamping allow cheaper metals?
    0:47:03 - Match for revolvers and single shot rifles
    0:50:04 - Pedersen vs Johnson if there was no Garand
    0:52:40 - "Not real" actions like Blish...and API
    0:54:57 - Printed magazines for very rare guns?
    0:57:14 - Which will be dropped first, 9mm or 5.56mm?
    0:59:27 - Biggest military lesson form World War One?
    1:02:06 - Did Simonov see an RSC rifle?
    1:03:13 - Unlimited ammo from Santa: what caliber and for what guns?
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  • @samuelfisher8195
    @samuelfisher8195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +516

    At some point you’re gunna have to enter a two gun match as an Elbonian infantryman

    • @009013M3
      @009013M3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +157

      The ideal thing in keeping with the Elbonian sabotage theme would be to have Ian and Karl each create a themed "Elbonian sabotage" loadout for each other picked from the shared pool of equipment, and see who can screw the other over the most.

    • @robnunya572
      @robnunya572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Why does this comment not have 1000 likes?

    • @jimbo5896
      @jimbo5896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      That sabotage match idea would be a lot of fun

    • @TacticalTerry
      @TacticalTerry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I foresee a S333 Thunderstruck pistol and maybe a Remington 770.

    • @freedomfalcon
      @freedomfalcon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed!!!

  • @terry7907
    @terry7907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +875

    “Russia has some visa issues and diplomatic issues right now”. Ian, the master of understatement.

    • @rustem123ful
      @rustem123ful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I think it is specifically the issue for US citizens and it has been going on for some years now.

    • @USS_Grey_Ghost
      @USS_Grey_Ghost 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I want to go to Russia to see the only Mouse tank in the world and the only Gigantic Thor and Odin self propelled mortars left both in the same Museum

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@USS_Grey_Ghost so do I.
      Kubinka should be a destination for all tread-heads.

    • @DrBreezeAir
      @DrBreezeAir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@USS_Grey_Ghost I hope someday we'll be past the political turmoils, and you'll be able to come here.

    • @christopherreed4723
      @christopherreed4723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Add currency issues to that list. The Ruble to Dollar exchange rate is pretty spectacular. A PSO scope with a dollar price of just under $600.- translates to over 3000 Rubles, and when ordering, it's the Ruble amount your bank will see, not the Dollar amount. Which also brings us to the next entry...
      ...Trust issues. Any charge identifiable as originating in Russia is liable to have your bank declare a DEFCON alert. Expect to spend some time on the phone explaining that the charge *was* legitimate, and could they, pretty please with whipped cream and a cherry on top, unlock the card, your account, and the drawer with the silverware.
      So, yeah...Russia's got a few issues right now. I'm sure we missed several. And...what *does* one use Kopecks for these days, anyway?

  • @ravenslaves
    @ravenslaves 2 ปีที่แล้ว +720

    The proud nation of Elbonia doesn't need the fancy sniper weapons of the West. Our proud sniper corps has always distinguished itself with honor as one of the most highly decorated units in the World. To see them standing in ranks in their bright orange battle dress uniforms with their gleaming displays of wound badges, shining in the Sun, has inspired the entire nation for over 400 years.

    • @R281
      @R281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I'll visit your glorious country one day...

    • @letsburn00
      @letsburn00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Just don't ask them how they feel about left handed shooters. They have some backwards views...

    • @davidbrennan660
      @davidbrennan660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Functionality is not the form required in its firearm development features that are central to a Nation forged in Mud and IT Support.

    • @dscrappygolani7981
      @dscrappygolani7981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      In view of your steadfast defense of the Elbonia sniper corps, I hereby nominate you for the presidency of Elbonia, and demand that your bedazzling eminence is crowned with the world renowned pineapple and plum crown of the royal house of Elbonia.

    • @jic1
      @jic1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@letsburn00 While we all know about Elbonia's unjust persecution of the 'sinister', ironically all Elbonian snipers shoot left-handed. The officer who wrote the manual was left-eye dominant, and it stuck.

  • @stephenduffy5406
    @stephenduffy5406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    Elbonian snipers account for bullet drop, by mounting the scope under the barrel.

    • @calvingreene90
      @calvingreene90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Face palm and laughter. 👍😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃

    • @john-paulsilke893
      @john-paulsilke893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Or they shoot their guns upside down.

    • @w.callens1629
      @w.callens1629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Some say they minimize the reflection of the scope by mounting them
      backwards.

    • @calvingreene90
      @calvingreene90 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@w.callens1629
      Some say some really stupid things.

    • @w.callens1629
      @w.callens1629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@calvingreene90 do your best with the worst is the way of Elbonia

  • @jrs4516
    @jrs4516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +592

    that fact that ian doesn't even know the correct name of "raid: shadow legends" fill's me with hope.

    • @araknidude
      @araknidude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      you mean Raid’s Shadow Legend?

    • @jic1
      @jic1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@araknidude That's the parody version that advertises cockroach bait.

    • @PaletoB
      @PaletoB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The legend of the shadow raid....

    • @vaclav_fejt
      @vaclav_fejt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Or, "Raid: Shadow Warrior", as known by Karl.

    • @chrisspencer6502
      @chrisspencer6502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do forgotten weapons know the term sponsorship?

  • @ackshually404
    @ackshually404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    "Raid shadows legend" I love that he is so disinterested in stupid sponsors that he gets their name slightly wrong.
    I really appreciate your dedication to keeping this ad free and community based. Thank you ian

  • @BatCaveOz
    @BatCaveOz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I suspect that the significant reduction in weight between the Thompson vs the M3 Grease Gun endeared the M3 to anyone that had to carry one in the field.

    • @ZGryphon
      @ZGryphon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Getting away from the Thompson's horrendous length of pull was probably welcome to anyone shorter than six-foot-four, as well, even if the grease gun does have just a crappy wire stock. :)

    • @Tunkkis
      @Tunkkis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ZGryphon At least that wire stock doesn't have an absurd amount of drop and a ridiculously sloped butt plate.

  • @b79holmes
    @b79holmes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think a future t-shirt run needs to include an 'Elbonian Armorers' shirt

    • @neilmackay5655
      @neilmackay5655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "we are the busiest arm of the service. Because some idiot keeps buying crap weapons. It's like a conspiracy or something"

  • @dvogonen
    @dvogonen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    According to the museum database of Sweden's Royal Armoury (Livrustkammaren), the museum has two Kalthoff rifles in their inventory (inventory number 3646 (31:16) and 3644 (1334)) . You might be able to visit them and have a look at the rifles if you communicate with them in advance. They have some 30 000 items in their collection, so the rifles are probably not on display. Due to Swedish history, the collection is especially rich on items and weapons from the 17th century.

    • @nunyabeeswax2575
      @nunyabeeswax2575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Forgotten Weapons

    • @retroicdescent
      @retroicdescent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's awesome, I'd love to see Ian do a video on those rifles. Thank you for posting this!

    • @swagnut9864
      @swagnut9864 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta get this comment pushed up the chain so Ian can see this

    • @henninghesse9910
      @henninghesse9910 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you sure these are the repeaters? Or just normal flintlocks?

  • @jameslawrie3807
    @jameslawrie3807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Ian's the first ever person who's said the words "I'd like to visit Lithgow".

  • @Vilamus
    @Vilamus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    Regarding machine guns, I think a unit of price should be "Lago Aliens", as in, affordable machine guns are about 2-3 Lago Aliens.

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      *Laugo. Not a bad unit at all.

    • @john-paulsilke893
      @john-paulsilke893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And often come with extra gun parts like the Alien.

    • @john-paulsilke893
      @john-paulsilke893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      For example the FN BRNO with its extra barrels, magazines and recoil springs. Similar unit of price.

    • @Vilamus
      @Vilamus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@john-paulsilke893 I thought the BRNO was cheaper than the Alien. Whoah.

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Vilamus
      Huge difference between the full steel "Field Pistol" for up to 5k, but the one you see the most is the BRNO PSD, which is the polymer frame version around 1500k $.

  • @kingneptune5448
    @kingneptune5448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Ian throwing 40mm shade at RAID made my day.

  • @OhioTravelswithKris
    @OhioTravelswithKris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Have a great day

    • @gort0338
      @gort0338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You too, friend

  • @18robsmith
    @18robsmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Additional to your selection of the M14 isn't it the case that the Elbonians received the "complete" 128 page manual. Their top brass read the first few pages.... only later was it discovered that pages 33-127 were blank, and these pages covered the re-assembly and re-bedding of these guns. Page 128 being the outside back cover, which any fool could see was just a printer's aberration page.

  • @iJacker
    @iJacker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    “You’ll never see a Raid Shadow Legend ad on here” ha! Ian you’re a badass

    • @jubuttib
      @jubuttib 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I like to think he even said the name of the game wrong on purpose. =)

    • @Likexner
      @Likexner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Praised be He!

  • @MTimWeaver
    @MTimWeaver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Re Polymer rifle ammo:
    When I ran Practical Tactical back in the day, I obtained some of the polymer cased ammo that was being reintroduced into the market, around 2006-07 time frame. I think the mfg was Natec. Anyway, I ran it during one of the annual Independent Day Rifle Matches at Rio Salado. It was 114 that day. Most of the day, it ran fine up until the last stage with the concrete 'bunker' to shoot from, then a shoot house.
    By the time i got into the shoothouse, I got to the second target and it just went click. I did a tap/rack/bang, and same. Locked the slide back, dropped the mag, inserted a fresh mag, and same thing. Looking into the ejection port, I could see the tip of the round trying to enter the chamber, but wasn't.
    I cleared the gun, walked off the range to a safe area and checked the chamber...the polymer had gotten so hot, the extractor ripped the brass base off the case. I had to wait about 10-15 mins for it to cool enough to pop the plastic case out with a cleaning rod.
    I gave the ammo away the next day (I hadn't been charged for it). Gave the recipient a "use this for plinking ammo, not for competitions or defense" and was done with it. It was great, right up until it wasn't. :)

    • @TimberwolfCY
      @TimberwolfCY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hm, understandable....but that was already 15 years ago. That said it will have to be on the market for quite some time before I consider it, either.

  • @anlizheng6134
    @anlizheng6134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    On the "Which will be replaced first, 9mm or 5.56mm?" question, don't we see the answer already in historical terms? 9mm Parabellum has been around since 1901, when military rifles were generally firing full-power 7-ish millimetre cartridges. Since then, military rifle cartridges first went "intermediate" by shortening but keeping around the same calibre (8mm Short, 7.62x39), and then to "small calibre" rounds like 5.56mm, 5.45mm, 5.8mm and even 4.7mm in the H&K G11. Meanwhile, the 9x19mm cartridge has soldiered on, becoming steadily more popular. Rifle ammunition development has historically been much more dynamic than pistol, presumably because rifles are more important militarily than pistols, as Mr McCollum points out.

    • @RandarTheBarbarian
      @RandarTheBarbarian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz I think the counter argument is then that we NATO has already expressed a desire to replace 9mm and officially recognized 5.7x28 as a NATO standard caliber as of this year. It probably won't be adopted by the US in the near future since our military got a new standard 9mm pistol fairly recently, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did get replaced.

    • @marcusott5054
      @marcusott5054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm guessing the availability and price nowadays also keeps 9mm alive too. Next to 22lr I think 9mm is the chapest ammo available (?)

    • @RandarTheBarbarian
      @RandarTheBarbarian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marcusott5054 I would say it's likely that 9mm is so cheap specifically because it's the most common ammo used by militaries worldwide, economies of scale at work. I'd wager that if we did make the switch to 5.7x28 over time the civilian market would adopt it more and more as well and that ammo price would go down. Maybe not as much, I don't know if having a bottle-necked cartridge adds a significant amount of machine time and therefor cost, but other costs do decrease with increased production and sales

    • @mnades
      @mnades 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With the current US trials and development of the 6.8 cartridge with a new rifle, but the replacement of the sidearm with another 9mm, seems to support Ian's answer here

    • @WhatIfBrigade
      @WhatIfBrigade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. And .45ACP lasted a lot longer than .30-06.

  • @Angrymuscles
    @Angrymuscles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ian roasts Raid Shadow Legends in the first twenty seconds. Priceless.
    Addendum: E'Un McCollum strikes again! Furthering the damage done to Elbonia in the best traditions of the disco decade.

  • @coco26006
    @coco26006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You know when I heard the elbonian snipers question I was hard expecting the Mosin PU's to be deployed to elbonia because "think of the surplus prices and quantity." (and by PU's I mean just any old Mosin that they found off the shelf and stuck a scope on)

    • @isaiahcampbell488
      @isaiahcampbell488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Mosin PU to my understanding had a curved bolt handle that allowed you to actually use the gun as intended. To my understanding if you stuck a scope on a standard Mosin, you wouldn't be able to get the straight bolt handle in the open position because the optic would be in the way...which would be so bad even Elbonia would have to pass it up. Unless you have them assembly instructions and the rifles and scopes packaged separately and then not answer the customer service call.

  • @darthhodges
    @darthhodges 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    If advance primer ignition was relevant to submachine gun designs like the grease gun or UZI out of battery detonations would be FAR more common. In fixed firing pin guns the firing pin is in physical contact with the primer long before the case is far enough into the chamber to safely detonate it. It's not until something tries to stop movement of the cartridge that the firing pin applies enough force to set it off.

  • @tofu6284
    @tofu6284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Honestly I'm like 40 seconds in and Ian might just be the funniest person I've seen.

    • @tofu6284
      @tofu6284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also I got here when there were only 5 other comments, COOL!

    • @dscrappygolani7981
      @dscrappygolani7981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😐

  • @jic1
    @jic1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    48:39 You missed a circle for your Venn diagram: the cowboy shooters. They frequently use single-shot rifles for side matches.

    • @nichevo1
      @nichevo1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shiloh Sharps at 800m, nice.

  • @ronschramm9163
    @ronschramm9163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I have, from my time in the US military, an original XM24/M14 Sniper Manual issued in 1969. It is an interesting read.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd love to see a scan of it!

  • @aaronhrk
    @aaronhrk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    You have to get to the Australian War Memorial Ian. My best mate is a senior curator there and can get you behind the scenes access.
    It is an amazing museum with a fantastic collection of many extremely rare artefacts ❤

    • @boingkster
      @boingkster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gotta mention Singleton base here. They have a great museum and excellent exhibits out of view, hundreds of items ranging from arcane pistols to modern issue rifles.

    • @AgentTasmania
      @AgentTasmania 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      An intact original A7V. More Nick's field but still the crowning jewel

    • @IceWolfLoki
      @IceWolfLoki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fort Nepean in Victoria might also be of interest to Ian given it's WW1 and WW2 history.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AgentTasmania Didn't they send that back to Brisbane? Either way, I wouldn't mind crawling around the vehicles in the reserve collection, I didn't get a chance to when I visited back a few years ago. I suspect the replica A7V in Munster is more filmable anyway.

  • @dksdg
    @dksdg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Funny fact steel is actually made usually in 6” x 6” square bars chopped 20ft long, then rolled into whatever it needs to be. Round, square, rectangle.

  • @calvingreene90
    @calvingreene90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The one-off Ethiopian Oddities could be official army armorer at the end of a long supply line making sure he has a last ditch gun for every cook and clerk.
    My money would be on Bandit guns but that includes guerrillas fighting against the Italians.
    Edit corrected auto corrected to farmer to the correct armorer.

    • @brasstard7.627
      @brasstard7.627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There is a video here on youtube of Eritrean rebels making homemade SKS stocks to repair damaged rifles, not quiet as extensive as the recent imports Ian has shown but one day someone will wonder why some SKS have weird stocks and wonder if the government did it

  • @Chilly_Billy
    @Chilly_Billy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks to the Petreon crowd for saving us from Raid Shadow Legends ads. You are heroes to us all!

  • @catpainblackudder9118
    @catpainblackudder9118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I'm assuming the boat stamp for Jersey was the channel islands, a great place chock full of history, especially for the ww2 buff with the war tunnels along with the various bunkers and coastal defence batteries.

    • @jic1
      @jic1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since the Channel Islands aren't technically part of the UK they have different gun laws, so there may have been a collection he went there to see.

    • @catpainblackudder9118
      @catpainblackudder9118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jic1 the guy who runs a museum in a bunker on the nw coast has a decent collection some of which I believe he shoots. He also saves the cartridge cases which he chucks in the dunes around the bunker for kids to find. My 6 year old was chuffed with a couple of .223 and a 9mm case convinced he had something from "the Germans"

    • @skepticalbadger
      @skepticalbadger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jic1 Northern Ireland also has different gun laws but IS part of the UK. The common denominator is that neither is governed by English or Scots law (which are different but tend to copy each other's homework).

    • @51WCDodge
      @51WCDodge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jic1 They are part of the United Kingdom, in fact as any Crapaud will tell you, we went over to the Mainland with our Duc in 1066, so we own England. The Island is a Bailiwick, which gives the right to raise your own law and taxation.

    • @IceWolfLoki
      @IceWolfLoki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@51WCDodge They're not part of the UK they are Crown dependencies because the British Monarch is the successor to the Dukes of Normandy and they make up the last territory of the Duchy that remained under the control of the Dukes of Normandy (who were forced to relinquish the title under treaty) rather than the Kingdom of France and it's successors. In practise the Crown vests some of it's authority in relation to the Channel Islands to the UK government and much of it to the Channel Islands themselves.

  • @snarkymatt585
    @snarkymatt585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Australia would be a short trip pretty much a visit to the small arms factory at Lithgow, the war memorial museum in Canberra and Dandenong to visit Warwick Firearms to check out their WFA1 straight pull rifle and that's it really.

    • @letsburn00
      @letsburn00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Don't tell him, we need him to come here. He can go to the 50 BMG firing ranch up north from Perth. The reason for this is exclusively to get a viewer Meetup.
      My local gun shop/range will sell you one of you've got the licence.

    • @jic1
      @jic1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Possibly some private handgun collections? Or maybe a movie armourer with some interesting Australian military or civilian semi-autos? I mean, he found a British private collector with some interesting recent military sniper rifles, you guys must have *something?*

    • @terry7907
      @terry7907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He would still spend more time there than in NZ-unless he wanted to visit breweries and wineries. Steinlager Natural is my all time favorite beer

    • @jic1
      @jic1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@terry7907 He's more of a Spirits guy, but I think there's at least a couple of distilleries in New Zealand, so it should work out OK.

    • @boingkster
      @boingkster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Singleton military base in New South Wales has a good museum, and a great firearms collection with all manner of stuff - jezails, muskets, STG43's, modern arms and even a gold plated AK seized by SAS troops.
      Seriously, there's some cool stuff here if you go looking.

  • @76horsepower
    @76horsepower 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A good example of a firearm with a non-existent locking principle is the Savage 1907. While I really like the pistols, the rotation of the bullet acting against the barrel grooves in no way locks the breech. At best, it’s a minute delay, but I doubt even that is the case. My guess is you could file off the locking lug and the pistols would work exactly the same as simple blow-back.

  • @johngray3860
    @johngray3860 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I built my own iteration of the WWSD Rifle. It came out to 5 pounds, 14 ounces with an optic. I love that thing. It makes me giggle every time I pick it up!

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When I got my Troy XM177E2 clone. everyone in the shop kinda lost their mind at how light it is.

    • @flightlesschicken7769
      @flightlesschicken7769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What kind of optic, because that sounds like it might be lighter than an M1 Carbine and those are already basically feathers

  • @NamFlashb4cks
    @NamFlashb4cks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That dig at rAIDS shadow legends instantly after the start of the video for their general scummy business was perfection

  • @joetaylor486
    @joetaylor486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I have always enjoyed these Q&A's, Ian. As a Brit, I can fully endorse the Royal Armouries, that I live about 65 miles away from. Table and range comparison of L1A1 SLR as tweaked by Enfield, versus FAL as fielded by the Argentinians in the Falklands Conflict?

  • @tolarpowell5069
    @tolarpowell5069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Re: open bolt SMG accuracy, the only burst I've fired through an Uzi on full auto, I took out an inspection sticker with my first round at 100 yards. The inspection sticker was my point of aim. Perhaps it was pure luck, but that's what happened.
    And, no, I'm not some anti vehicle inspection anarchist. I was on a SWAT Team, and a wrecker company donated a junker for playtime on range day.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @michaelwright2986
    @michaelwright2986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Countries to visit: ? former Czechoslovakia? That would mean the Czech Republic, but would there also be interesting things in Slovakia?

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sure that's on his list.

    • @kibicz
      @kibicz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When did he mention it? Must have missed that one.

  • @ianbruene1529
    @ianbruene1529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was a very good Q&A, even by Forgotten Weapons standards.

  • @maxgood4361
    @maxgood4361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just want to say Thank You for your continued excellence in providing information to us via your videos. Wishing You and Your Loved Ones a Very Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and a Blessed 2022 for your adventures.

  • @TommyVee63
    @TommyVee63 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FWIW, my first exposure to your work was due to stumbling upon the compilation videos on Amazon, but once I was hooked I never went back --- your videos here on YT give me my necessary daily fix.

  • @williamprince1114
    @williamprince1114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think Spain would be priority as their history is fading away. There are still probably executives of Llama, & Star still around to get a first hand history from. Argentina is a nation that many do not think of but has a rich history as well

    • @rogerwennstrom6677
      @rogerwennstrom6677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good call there - Spain was a country that also cropped up in the back of my mind...
      Belgium is another no-brainer but I assume Ian has been there already and I've forgotten about it :)

  • @allanbador7316
    @allanbador7316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These Q&A’s are so much good information. Keep it up

  • @mjfan653
    @mjfan653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    if you go to finland and specifically helsinki, its an hours trip by boat over the finnish gulf to estonia and it's capital tallinn.
    it is notable because it has a conserved city centre fron the 16-17 century. so that "old town" actually still has a city defence wall around it, and whole streets full of buildings built before columbus even crossed the atlantic. for any medieval stuff its a wonderful experience, and you can also visit an ex soviet country and see a few interesting guns. for example the arsenal SMG

  • @Panzermeister36
    @Panzermeister36 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for answering my question. Hope you have a good holiday season, Ian. Take care!

  • @haldorasgirson9463
    @haldorasgirson9463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    M14 sniper rifles. YES! I remember all the worship these got back in the 70's and 80's in the civilian gun press.

  • @pokemaster123ism
    @pokemaster123ism 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly, the Johnson seems like the better rifle. It's still .30-06, so you don't have to worry about ammo, it doesn't need lubricated/waxed cartridges, and it uses 1903 Springfield clips. The ammo issue seems like the biggest reason that if the Garand didn't ,exist, the Johnson would have been adopted

  • @slowpokebr549
    @slowpokebr549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So on one side of Agincourt we have Henry V's army and on the other we have the Elbonians. Who prevails?

  • @dtgs4502
    @dtgs4502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In regards to the WWSD balance, it can be quantified. When I was changing parts on my own rifle I just found the center of mass and multiplied that by the distance to my wrist to get the torque required to hold it up. Even accounting for differing bone structure wouldn't be that difficult since you can just make the grip itself the arbitrary fulcrum.

  • @hellomynameis2767
    @hellomynameis2767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The IDF museum next to Jaffa train station is outstanding. They actually have panzer iv and panther tanks captured from the Syrians in the six day war and a massive small arms weapon display including every ww1, ww2 machine gun you can think of.

    • @hellomynameis2767
      @hellomynameis2767 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@s.marcus3669 I doubt it closed. It’s a national historic site and ran by the IDF. Ill ask my family over there for you to see what’s up.

  • @SecomputersCoNz1
    @SecomputersCoNz1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Happy to put you up here in Wellington. New Zealand

  • @liljimmygreen
    @liljimmygreen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video thanks and Merry Christmas

  • @standardtoaster10000
    @standardtoaster10000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you end up coming to New Zealand I bet there are enough shooters here to get a brutality style event organized, IPSC is popular enough that there are a surprising number of clubs with decent ranges.

  • @effynme
    @effynme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good morning Ian. Thank you

  • @edwalmsley1401
    @edwalmsley1401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That blue plastic 7.62×51 training ammunition has a metallic case head and a polymer body/projectile, but again much lower pressure

  • @WhatIfBrigade
    @WhatIfBrigade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think if you did muzzleloading brutality you'd want to mix in some tomahawk throwing and ramp up the physical challenges. Start close, shoot two single shot pistols at knockdown targets Then throw a kettlebell for 50 meters then load and fire your rifle. Then drag a sled back to the 10 meter mark and throw a tomahawk.

  • @casfren
    @casfren 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    just the start, you got me XDD did not expect it, and loved it :)

  • @jasonirwin4631
    @jasonirwin4631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You should consider adding south korea, Taiwan and italy to the visit list. South korea and taiwan are probably the only place to find north Korean and Chinese firearms. And while this channel is mostly focused on small arms japans naval history is well preserved and something viewers may find interesting

  • @TacoSallust
    @TacoSallust 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ian's housecoat is SUPER FLY. I love it!

  • @broadstken
    @broadstken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I talked to a WW2 vet years ago who was part of the occupation forces immediately after the surrender of Japan. He told me about how the American forces gathered up every gun they could find, and after they took the ones they wanted as souvenirs the rest were taken to collection points, where the soldiers who ran those took whatever they wanted, and then the rest were loaded onto barges and dumped in the sea. So apparently there are some rather large piles of guns on the bottom of a few different harbors in Japan

  • @eprohoda
    @eprohoda 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you- very perfect footage~ have a good day-Forgotten~

  • @dscrappygolani7981
    @dscrappygolani7981 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent info on the round barell thing. 👍 Many thanks.

  • @arnoldfero816
    @arnoldfero816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The firearms museum in Lithgow, Australia is fantastic. You're going to love it.

  • @obiwankenobi2749
    @obiwankenobi2749 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can imagine a 1960's ad for the m16 ending in " YOU CAN TELL ITS MATEL, ITS SWELL!"

  • @DerekIcelord
    @DerekIcelord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RE: Single shot/bolt gun matches. To give a little more perspective on how small that Venn Diagram overlap is, at Desert Brutality 2021 of the 146 competitors, only 5 opted to shoot in Classic Division (Classic is limited to WWII and earlier designs). One used a BAR as his main rifle, and I think 1 or 2 of the others used M1 Garands. A bolt gun match is something that sounds really cool, but in practice very few actually do it.

  • @tomdixon7264
    @tomdixon7264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yup. I modify and fireform Lebel brass to shoot in a center fire converted 1869 Vetterli. Oh the humanity!

  • @robertkb64
    @robertkb64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the WWSD criticism: that’s almost word for word what I said when I built mine over the summer when the uppers were still unavailable. I paired the polymer lower with a Larue upper, and it’s noticeably lighter than even my AR pistol - let alone anything else.
    My wife had the same comments on a Christmas - she’s been shooting an LMT MWS in .308 and has been asking for something lighter for sub-1k yard shooting and the WWSD fit the bill perfectly - her rifle is more accurate than most match ammo, and that’s pretty big praise for both your design and the team who put it together.

  • @wacojones8062
    @wacojones8062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Open bolt vs. Closed bolt for weapons has a lot to do with heat build-up and ammo cooking off. The more airflow through the chamber between bursts the better. It can make a lot of difference in safety. I have seen two M60 Machinegun incidents on the same night fire exercise with one cartridge into a trachea and the other into a left arm. Both open feed tray cookoffs. Both due to incompetent officers not having spare weapons, barrels and cooldown procedures in place. White hot barrels on several guns that night.

  • @rodroper211
    @rodroper211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    General Sir John Monash,an Australian, is considered by many to be the father of combined arms after his efforts during WWI (1914-1918) on the Western Front. WWI saw the rise of revolutionary technology such as the machine gun, tank, and aircraft. first properly used at The Battle of Hamel

  • @olihaub
    @olihaub 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For your trip to Australia I can recommend the Lithgow small arms museum attached to the Lithgow arms factory as you mentioned. Also the Australian war memorial museum in Canberra as well. I also believe the school of infantry in singleton has a decent museum. I am sure someone of your standing could get some pretty cool access behind the scenes if forewarned. All of these museums are within a few hours of each other and Sydney. I also believe the armour museum up in qld may be of interest. Pretty sure you could ask the chieftain about that one.

  • @duanequam7709
    @duanequam7709 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thanks

  • @sharpright6887
    @sharpright6887 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazon was how I got introduced to your channel.

  • @johnstacy7902
    @johnstacy7902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Happy Festivus everyone!!!

  • @matg919
    @matg919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m jealous, I live 30mins from the royal armouries at Leeds but you get to see all the cool guns not on display.

  • @collind.5207
    @collind.5207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think I’ve been a huge fan of yours for about 3.5 years now. Your channel has grown so much it’s crazy. I have grown so much its crazy ahaha
    Anyways, keep doing what you love, man.
    Greetings, from your city neighbor, Phoenix 🌵

  • @cmdrcriton
    @cmdrcriton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The original ar 15 contract rifles are extremely light. I actually had one issued to my unit during gulf War 1. Man I loved that thing.

  • @jamestarbet9608
    @jamestarbet9608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reising magazines are horribly expensive currently and difficult to find in quantity. After about a year of searching, I finally found a little 12 rounder that was under $200 USD. Repros are only available in 30 rounds, and are themselves bringing about the same as WWII originals. If you are looking to get some magazines, I recommend converting M3 mags or 3d printing them (as the 3d print tech has increased so much in quality)

  • @timblack6422
    @timblack6422 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great point with the combined arms development evolution

  • @stephendavies923
    @stephendavies923 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks as always Ian, but no Whisky? Your throat must have been very dry by the end. Have a great Christmas and New Years.

  • @benjaminshropshire2900
    @benjaminshropshire2900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Regarding high pressure rounds; take a look at some of the naval gunnery. Some of them have to do multi part pre-stressed barrel construction to avoid hitting the yield strain of the barrel wall on the very first round, which would results in barrel lives in the single digest of rounds. It turns out that you literally can't avoid that issue regardless of how thick the barrel is.

  • @hogey74
    @hogey74 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Ian I'd be keen to say hi whenever you get out here. I'm not a shooter but I've always enjoyed your work. Cheers John

  • @FIREBRAND38
    @FIREBRAND38 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remembered when the Army transitioned from the M21 to the M24 and that aluminum bedding block was a game changer. The Army had closed the National Match Armorer's School at Fort Benning that trained personnel to re-bed the glass bedded M21 stocks while retaining them in the inventory. I'd also include the ART II scope that replaced the legendary AR TEL (aka ART I) scope post-Vietnam that completely screwed up many a sniper's life having to use that. I really wish that someone would offer a good quality ART I reproduction with no "improvements".

  • @beardednategaming7188
    @beardednategaming7188 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seeing content from lithgow arms would be amazing to see, I hope you get to do it some day.

  • @davidhansen5067
    @davidhansen5067 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Patreon patron eagerly awaiting the eventual German and Austrian trips...

  • @genericpersonx333
    @genericpersonx333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    0:57:14 - Which will be dropped first, 9mm or 5.56mm?
    I can concur that 9mm Parabellum is mostly safe from replacement at this point. The primary users in a military context with practical concerns are armed military law enforcement and security personnel, be it Shore Patrol or Military Police or whatever. They are just about the only people who carry pistols with an expectation to need to use them with lethal intent and they have long agreed that 9mm Parabellum is an excellent round for unarmored targets and lightly-armored targets. If an MP or other such person is in a warzone, they carry rifles anyway, so the inefficacy of 9mm against most military-grade body-armor is mostly irrelevant. Also, most soldiers hit by 9mm even donning military-grade body-armor are usually distracted and otherwise affected by the hit even if it is not immediately life-threatening. Long and short, the only people who really use pistols in the military mostly don't think they need better than 9mm and if they do, they want a rifle, not so much a different pistol caliber.

    • @tankeroftheeast105
      @tankeroftheeast105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And even in the police and security worlds, where 9mm is the primary cartridge, they've all agreed that 9mm is the way to go. Most of the threats won't have that nasty body armor, the barrier penetration really isn't needed, and all the firearms made for the cartridge are light and easy to carry/conceal. I frankly think that 9mm will stick around until the next big jump in firearms technology (comparable to the development of smokeless powder) and might even survive that!

  • @MrKronikDeception
    @MrKronikDeception 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Thumbs up for no Raid Shadow Legends

    • @sebathadah1559
      @sebathadah1559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I wouldn't wipe my butt with that game if it was presented to me in toilet paper form.

  • @pokemaster123ism
    @pokemaster123ism 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always love the Elbonia questions

  • @iandegraff3472
    @iandegraff3472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A really stinky, by which I mean, dirty, cheaty, choice for a bolt-action in a 2-gun match would be an Ishapore 2A/2A1 in 7.62 with the the 12-round magazine. Apparently, you can turn the things into a "tanker" or even Mk5-esque carbine with the right bits. (According to Wikipedia, anyways.)

  • @tommybronze3451
    @tommybronze3451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish there was a raid shadow legends advert done by Ian :) "Did you know you can now buy .50 for your hero ? and at extra silver you can add a better trigger !" :D

  • @Girvo747
    @Girvo747 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d love for you to visit Australia too! Hope you get to soon :)

  • @haldorasgirson9463
    @haldorasgirson9463 ปีที่แล้ว

    Open bolt submachine gun, sheds heat better in burst mode than a closed bolt version. The breach is open any time you are not firing which lets air flow through the barrel. Cyclical rate of fire is improved.

  • @speedythree
    @speedythree 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Regarding the question on half-brass cartridge cases: I can remember shotgun shells that were half-brass and half-cardboard; I doubt that we will ever see that with pistol and rifle ammunition!

    • @tarmaque
      @tarmaque 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember those too. In fact, I have a bunch of them in 16Ga for a shotgun I rarely shoot. (My Dad bought them in the 70s'.) Somewhere around here I think I've got some all brass shotgun shells too. Just the cases. They aren't loaded ammunition anymore.

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tarmaque
      One time period where we might have seen a brass/paper rifle case is post ACW in black powder single shot rifles. Would a case in 45-XX have worked. I can see where water proofing would be an issue. Plus could the cases be treated so they are combustible leaving only the brass base for extraction. Denying any hostiles the possibility of reloaded cases. One issue I see is bottle mech cases. And yes I remember cellulose shot gun shells. And at the time people complained about the new fangled plastic shells.

    • @tarmaque
      @tarmaque 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mpetersen6 There have been many paper patched centerfire cartridges, from the 45-70 series to the 577-450 Martini Henry, and even down to smokless powder cartridges like the .303 Savage. Even modern reloaders sometimes use paper patches when using cast lead bullets in modern cartridges like .357 Magnum and even .308 Winchester.

    • @509Gman
      @509Gman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve got some cardboard hulled 20ga rounds sitting around here somewhere.

  • @TheColonelSponsz
    @TheColonelSponsz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the muzzle loaders match you could make it a team challenge and get everyone to volley fire at a line of knock down targets.

  • @scottyost3318
    @scottyost3318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TruVelocity and SIG are the two companies behind the "half brass"/polymer ammunition.

  • @Divenity
    @Divenity 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man I've been wanting you to look at a Kalthoff for a while, they're just so damned rare. I really wish someone made reproductions of them, they're really neat.

  • @Requeium
    @Requeium 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    NGL Ian saying I'll never see a raids shadow legend ad on forgotten weapons is the best advertisement I've seen so far lol

  • @poolboyque
    @poolboyque 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude that Raid Shadow Legends jab was god tier! 😂🤘🏼

  • @ryanboyer5934
    @ryanboyer5934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A great video as always. Is it just me or did TH-cam add a ton of extra ads to this one?

  • @graypatriot1299
    @graypatriot1299 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you

  • @spondulixtanstaafl7887
    @spondulixtanstaafl7887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great content Gun Jesus, you have Luxuriant Locks.

  • @jameswhitaker1324
    @jameswhitaker1324 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The other thing with stamped vs milled is that with stamped, you’re not turning most of the metal into floor sweeping, no matter what the alloy is.

  • @lt.danhooper1635
    @lt.danhooper1635 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    32:54 "The bayonet is irrelevant in a 2-gun match"
    *flashbacks to Ian bayonetting a target in the Garand vs FG-42 2-gun match*

  • @ryantanzola
    @ryantanzola 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Ian I worship this man.