Did you verify that the actual consumer product will have the same memory clocking speed? Because ASUS has only been sending laptops to reviewers with higher clocked ram.
Could You allocate a bit of time and make a video about the current market state for handhelds like steam deck? I checked the videos, but feels like every week a new device is released. Just wanted to make sure to get the best option for emulation up to switch, wii u, ps2, gamecube, psp and so on. I would consider it for a context of best buy for christmas, If You can't, it is alright, but it would be nice. Thank You
I really wish Intel would've named the GPU a little more unambiguously, to make its position in the ARC stack clearer. I like how you compared it to the Radeon 780M, that was quite useful. (Btw. you have a pretty unique style/format, great pacing, pleasant voice, and a focus on applicable use-cases - quite enjoyable. Also, you should keep labelling your benchmark runs, visually, instead of just talking about the settings.)
So it is equivalent to the AMD 780M iGPU but would take 1/2 watts power? Ya, I like how ETAPrime goes thru every new gaming system a good concise review.
It varies. If you play 4K video then it has to move from the base cores. So expect less. If you are doing ultrabook stuff this should get you through the day with no issues. But compared to a MB Air M2 15-inch which has a much smaller battery, its efficiency remains second best, but finally, an improvement so that is praiseworthy, even if they have to pack a 99-watt battery in to get it.
This sounds like a great video editing laptop. Super charged Intel iGPU with Arc QSV got that full suite codec support. 4K OLED and massive battery. I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on how this thing holds up editing one of your video on battery power. Does it perform well? Does the battery last a decent amount while editing and then again while exporting?
Laptop with Intel meteor lake is a real blessing for video editor with Intel quick sync and dual encoder while also providing great battery life. This thing is real beast.
I just got my Prestige 16 but im using the free version of davinci Resolve. You have to use proxies for 4K media but that is a good practice anyway. I think the Studio version of Resolve allows you to use the full potential of the GPU so I might have to upgrade eventually.
Now they need to make a gaming version of the chipset... give us 6c/12t all P cores, no e Cores and the full 128 EUs paired with the new 8500mhz LPDDR5X
@@lupintheiii3055you have no idea what you are talking about… the ultra 7 155h has 6 p cores, 8 e cores and 2 lp e cores with a 128 EU GPU and that is at 28-65w tdp… how would removing the 8 e cores and 2 lp e cores to free up the power for the GPU increase the TDP? The point is that the TDP would be the same, except the power that used to go to the E cores and LP E cores can now go to the GPU since the E cores and LP E cores have limited to no use for gaming you might as well just get rid of them and reroute that power to the GPU... that's why it would be a gaming version of the SoC.
What I'm most excited about is a Microsoft Surface Laptop with more modern design and a meteor lake setup. I'm currently using a Macbook Air M1 only because of battery life and its compact/lightweight build. I would really love to go back to Windows
It's good that amd finally faces some competition igpu wise but it's not better (yet). Hopefully down the line intel will offer good cheap igpus for budget handhelds, an area amd has deserted (where are the mendocinos?)
Hey ETA! I'm dying to see Warframe running on an ARK GPU. Integrated especially. Unreal Engine based games have so many visual effects and technology that Nvidia GPUs can fully have a blast with. Intel has a lot of catching up to do but I'd like to see where they are at.
As someone who used ARC for almost a year , this a reminder that this is using ARC graphics for the iGPU and not Intel Iris XE meaning the drivers will not be dependable for new games and even older ones. ARC normally benchmarks significantly higher than the price would suggest but in game performance usually doesn't line up except in special circumstances. I had A770 ARC gpu and popular games worked but there were a lot that had wildly different performance than what the card should be capable of. For current E-sports and current mainstream games ARC will be awesome but for newer and older games there will be problems with compatibility or performance and VR is a BIG NO. The card can handle it , some drivers over the year supported it and it performed as well (and better) as my 3070 (I sold to buy the ARC A770) but for most of the year VR games don't work at all at least not using VD. I didn't get to try Steam Link as that might have been better.
Ouch, you may want to tweak that AI noise-gate / room-verb reduction a bit. Your voice is cutting out in a very unnatural way. Don't be afraid of a little reverb and noise.. try to keep it natural, makes for a much nicer listen. Remember that most of us listen to youtube on cheap headphones in rather noisy environments so no need to push the noise gate/reverb removal so hard. Other than that, a great video as usual! Cheers!
I wonder how well it will run Citra and RPCS3. But you can test this in a month. I would also be curious to see it running Linux, but we may need to wait a few months for that though.
not impressed with the chip tbh. still no hyped 3050 level performance in sight, no meaningful battery increase with the new low power e-cores, no tb5 for better egpu support, still hotter than zen4. its basically a stand still
Is it the one that’s going to have 16CU instead of 12 and RDNA 3.5? That should be a good bump in performance but that will also require some updates too
sometimes I am surprised when I look at a laptop design and realize somebody approved THAT for Q1 2024. like there was a meeting and a designer went " you know what we need in our premium prestige lineup? a 2013 chin and a sad aspect ratio". IDK why MSI always somehow has that one deal breaker flaw that just puts me off. no laptop should have that bezel in 2024. sorry.
2:04 had a little chuckle here - "bl0w1ng everything outSIDE of the water" has a slightly different meaning than the colloquialism "bl0w1ng it out of the water" 😉😆
oculink or tb 5 120gbps would make it worth it for future uses. I've wanted portable non backpack vr devices without lugging/tripping electrical wall outlets.
Might have a good iGPU, but for $1500 you can get a laptop with a similar CPU & a 4060 or 4070. You'd only need around $750 to match the performance of this laptop. And keep in mind, the 780m iGPU is a year old. AMD is already about to release a new version. The only thing this laptop has going for it is the really nice screen. Is that worth $750 extra?
AMD is not about to release a new version or updated version of 780m. The AMD 8000 series will use the same cpu and gpu as the 7000 series. The only difference will be the NPU which is more AI capable.
Hopefully the drivers keep improving for these Intel iGPUs and forces AMD into an honest performance race. Would be amazing if, by the end of 2024, we could see laptops like this one and the ROG Flow X13 compete with solid 1080p performance and amazing battery life. The I wonder how big of a difference 16gb vs 32gb of RAM will make for these iGPUs when it comes to gaming in the near future.
I never thought the day would come when I'd see this kind of performance in an Intel IGPU, ever since I heard about the Core Ultra I've been looking forward to it, and it's awesome. In terms of efficiency, they seem to be still behind AMD, but at least we're seeing improvement.
This is nice and what I call a great adult compromise, being able to use a ultra portable laptop with plenty of ram, room for NVME upgrades, 4k Screen for real HDR netflix..etc and the gaming capabilities for something other than mobile and indie games even at 1080p.
The power numbers in Skyrim look rather high. How exactly did you come to the conclusion that battery life is good with this system exactly? Because the gaming tests say 2 hours give or take and you gave no other numbers.
Reviews suggest battery life is dependent, and although that is obvious, we will need more detailed tests to gauge what this means to different demographic users. A 4K OLED display playing games at high brightness is going to kill it, especially as on battery, its performance only drops 5-10%.
Yeah because so many Amd fanboy spreading BS. He must be tired hearing that BS from Amd fanboy especially after he tested this Intel Meteor Lake chip and he know this chip is much better than what people thought
@@sihamhamda47 it's a gaming GPU the ultra thin laptop GPU market was eliminated by AMD and intel because of powerfull IGPUs all this started way back when intel announced iris xe
Ну наконец-то Интел сделал интегрированную графику более-менее нормальной, ждем видео про эмуляцию ps2, wii, 3ds, ps3. Надеюсь китайцы выпустят приставку с этим процессором.
Faster than the 780M... while sucking down 3 times the wattage... Don't get me wrong, I like the performance. Just the price Intel needed to pay to beat it is interesting.
Exactly, everyone should celebrate Intel comeback because it's good for everyone but instead we got pathetic fanboy downplaying this Intel new chip just because it beat amd and apple newest chip.
Read my mind. I wanted this igpu review from ya. Please give more comparative with both 7840u/hs. Please compare the a.i. tech if u can for each?Intel npu vs Ryzen a.i.?
@@danielalpha8803 ULTRA 7 155H and 165H is a 28 Watt chip and has 44% better battery in light work video playback than 7840U and 79% lower idle power consumption than 7840U.
So Ive Been doing some Tweaking and it looks like we might have pretty good iGPU on our hands. Video Coming Soon, Over 4000 In Time Spy
What up ETA. What would you equate this iGPU to w/ Nvidia dGPUs? A desktop 1050ti maybe? Thanks for the vid btw 👍
Did you verify that the actual consumer product will have the same memory clocking speed? Because ASUS has only been sending laptops to reviewers with higher clocked ram.
@@paradigmfellowhe is using a msi laptop in this video
@@samgoff5289 I am asking if MSI is doing the same thing.
Could You allocate a bit of time and make a video about the current market state for handhelds like steam deck? I checked the videos, but feels like every week a new device is released. Just wanted to make sure to get the best option for emulation up to switch, wii u, ps2, gamecube, psp and so on. I would consider it for a context of best buy for christmas, If You can't, it is alright, but it would be nice. Thank You
Wow, I use to work at Micro Center almost five years ago and first discovered your videos while I was there. Talk about coming full circle.
I really wish Intel would've named the GPU a little more unambiguously, to make its position in the ARC stack clearer. I like how you compared it to the Radeon 780M, that was quite useful. (Btw. you have a pretty unique style/format, great pacing, pleasant voice, and a focus on applicable use-cases - quite enjoyable. Also, you should keep labelling your benchmark runs, visually, instead of just talking about the settings.)
So it is equivalent to the AMD 780M iGPU but would take 1/2 watts power? Ya, I like how ETAPrime goes thru every new gaming system a good concise review.
It is equivalent except some driver issues with arc so some results are bad for arc and they use the same wattage. @@cybernit3
8hr battery life at 100% screen brightness is amazing. Is Intel now the efficiency king? Can you do a compare with a competitive AMD cpu?
It will get better when it will use SoC tile to play videos by turning off CPU and iGPU tile.
This is just beginning and it's already decent. Battery life on Intel meteor lake will be much better once apps and games fully supported LP E Cores.
You skip over the part where it has a 99W/hr battery?
It varies. If you play 4K video then it has to move from the base cores. So expect less. If you are doing ultrabook stuff this should get you through the day with no issues. But compared to a MB Air M2 15-inch which has a much smaller battery, its efficiency remains second best, but finally, an improvement so that is praiseworthy, even if they have to pack a 99-watt battery in to get it.
6:47 "impressive", yeah but no, lets not sugarcoat it. This is still okay, but not even better than the 7840U at 35W.
I appreciate you opening up the laptop and showing us that it isnt upgradeable
I'd love it if someone could test video editing on a laptop with one of these intel ultra cpus with the intel arc graphics.
Same. I think it’ll do well though because it has QuickSync
Awesome. Now i cant wait to get this kind of power in a handheld.
not for a long time
mmhmm waiting for 1080p @60 fps on recent AAA titles. Once that's achieved, I'm def getting handheld!
@@zerocal76 same here
onexplayer already has one announced on the way
This sounds like a great video editing laptop. Super charged Intel iGPU with Arc QSV got that full suite codec support. 4K OLED and massive battery.
I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on how this thing holds up editing one of your video on battery power. Does it perform well? Does the battery last a decent amount while editing and then again while exporting?
Yes very fast in Davinchi resolve studio. 2 times faster export than last gen iris xe due to dual encoders.
Laptop with Intel meteor lake is a real blessing for video editor with Intel quick sync and dual encoder while also providing great battery life. This thing is real beast.
Totally agreed
Amd can't beat qsv encoder
I just got my Prestige 16 but im using the free version of davinci Resolve. You have to use proxies for 4K media but that is a good practice anyway. I think the Studio version of Resolve allows you to use the full potential of the GPU so I might have to upgrade eventually.
Now they need to make a gaming version of the chipset... give us 6c/12t all P cores, no e Cores and the full 128 EUs paired with the new 8500mhz LPDDR5X
Then the battery life in windows will again go bad, until they switch to arm based chips
That's a 250W chip... perfect for laptops
@@lupintheiii3055you have no idea what you are talking about… the ultra 7 155h has 6 p cores, 8 e cores and 2 lp e cores with a 128 EU GPU and that is at 28-65w tdp… how would removing the 8 e cores and 2 lp e cores to free up the power for the GPU increase the TDP? The point is that the TDP would be the same, except the power that used to go to the E cores and LP E cores can now go to the GPU since the E cores and LP E cores have limited to no use for gaming you might as well just get rid of them and reroute that power to the GPU... that's why it would be a gaming version of the SoC.
What I'm most excited about is a Microsoft Surface Laptop with more modern design and a meteor lake setup. I'm currently using a Macbook Air M1 only because of battery life and its compact/lightweight build. I would really love to go back to Windows
This laptop, although 16 inches, weighs in at just 3.5 pounds which is about the same as my older MSI Prestige 15.
Finally, Intel have igpu that's competing with Ryzen options. Now we'll have some more budget options for light gaming.
not even close
@@argamotto atleast the old ones are running really good
@@argamotto Not even close of what? Amd fanboy in denial
Yeah budget..... Now check this laptop price
@@Raven-lg7td I didn't say this one is a budget option. I said that there'll be a budget option from Intel that'll perform great.
i hope you do a emulator testing on this device, and even how loud the fans can get. Love your vid's
It's good that amd finally faces some competition igpu wise but it's not better (yet).
Hopefully down the line intel will offer good cheap igpus for budget handhelds, an area amd has deserted (where are the mendocinos?)
Its iGPU is 10% faster than Z1 Extreme and also 79% uses less Power.
@@Elam5179% less power ahahahahahhahahahahah
$1,600 after tax. Which should be said right away.
With the thunderbolt 4 port it can support external GPUs right?
I love micro center. I'm so lucky there's 1 only 10 minutes from my house.
Whoa, how hard is it for them to add an additional fan and make the heat pipes longer given a 16" chassis?
Hey ETA! I'm dying to see Warframe running on an ARK GPU. Integrated especially. Unreal Engine based games have so many visual effects and technology that Nvidia GPUs can fully have a blast with. Intel has a lot of catching up to do but I'd like to see where they are at.
For over 20 years Micro Center has been my happy place. If I say I want to go my kids pile into the car like we're headed to Spatula City!
Ima need microcenter to sponsor me with a job cuz that would be nice 😅
As someone who used ARC for almost a year , this a reminder that this is using ARC graphics for the iGPU and not Intel Iris XE meaning the drivers will not be dependable for new games and even older ones. ARC normally benchmarks significantly higher than the price would suggest but in game performance usually doesn't line up except in special circumstances. I had A770 ARC gpu and popular games worked but there were a lot that had wildly different performance than what the card should be capable of. For current E-sports and current mainstream games ARC will be awesome but for newer and older games there will be problems with compatibility or performance and VR is a BIG NO. The card can handle it , some drivers over the year supported it and it performed as well (and better) as my 3070 (I sold to buy the ARC A770) but for most of the year VR games don't work at all at least not using VD. I didn't get to try Steam Link as that might have been better.
Drivers are getting better every week.
Ouch, you may want to tweak that AI noise-gate / room-verb reduction a bit. Your voice is cutting out in a very unnatural way. Don't be afraid of a little reverb and noise.. try to keep it natural, makes for a much nicer listen. Remember that most of us listen to youtube on cheap headphones in rather noisy environments so no need to push the noise gate/reverb removal so hard. Other than that, a great video as usual! Cheers!
I wonder how well it will run Citra and RPCS3. But you can test this in a month. I would also be curious to see it running Linux, but we may need to wait a few months for that though.
Im looking for the same exact specced laptop like you lil bro
not impressed with the chip tbh. still no hyped 3050 level performance in sight, no meaningful battery increase with the new low power e-cores, no tb5 for better egpu support, still hotter than zen4. its basically a stand still
Didn't test wifi 7 at all? Do you have a wifi 7 router yet?
Gotta love how the numpad makes it not symmetrical
The early 8000 series will have RDNA 3, pretty sure I saw a roadmap indicating Zen 5 CPU's and RDNA 3.5 GPU at the high end of the range.
Is it the one that’s going to have 16CU instead of 12 and RDNA 3.5? That should be a good bump in performance but that will also require some updates too
I wish there were a Microcenter near me. Gosh I miss the old Frys.
Sucks that Microcenter only seems to be in major cities. My nearest one is Chicago which is 4 hours away.
sometimes I am surprised when I look at a laptop design and realize somebody approved THAT for Q1 2024. like there was a meeting and a designer went " you know what we need in our premium prestige lineup? a 2013 chin and a sad aspect ratio". IDK why MSI always somehow has that one deal breaker flaw that just puts me off. no laptop should have that bezel in 2024. sorry.
so the left-aligned touch pad does not bother you?
2:04 had a little chuckle here - "bl0w1ng everything outSIDE of the water" has a slightly different meaning than the colloquialism "bl0w1ng it out of the water" 😉😆
oculink or tb 5 120gbps would make it worth it for future uses. I've wanted portable non backpack vr devices without lugging/tripping electrical wall outlets.
Might have a good iGPU, but for $1500 you can get a laptop with a similar CPU & a 4060 or 4070. You'd only need around $750 to match the performance of this laptop. And keep in mind, the 780m iGPU is a year old. AMD is already about to release a new version. The only thing this laptop has going for it is the really nice screen. Is that worth $750 extra?
AMD is not about to release a new version or updated version of 780m. The AMD 8000 series will use the same cpu and gpu as the 7000 series. The only difference will be the NPU which is more AI capable.
@bojji3538 - It's a refresh, but there still might be some tweaks to boost performance.
The cheapest laptop before this msi model with a UHD+ OLED screen is 3k. Yeah its worth it
The ram being higher mhz for reviews only is a scam.
Hopefully the drivers keep improving for these Intel iGPUs and forces AMD into an honest performance race. Would be amazing if, by the end of 2024, we could see laptops like this one and the ROG Flow X13 compete with solid 1080p performance and amazing battery life. The I wonder how big of a difference 16gb vs 32gb of RAM will make for these iGPUs when it comes to gaming in the near future.
Hoping we get that new Micro Center that's supposed to open in Charlotte for us in NC.
Can you test gaming under Linux?
Looking forward to seeing a chip like this in something like a next gen Latte panda Sigma.
I really want to see the inside! What is the cooling like? Edit: should have watched first. 2:19 has the bottom off.
I never thought the day would come when I'd see this kind of performance in an Intel IGPU, ever since I heard about the Core Ultra I've been looking forward to it, and it's awesome. In terms of efficiency, they seem to be still behind AMD, but at least we're seeing improvement.
At least this so far has done decent in its current tests.
$1500?! Holy crap
Why dont we call them IGPs anymore? Its not a graphical processing "unit". Its a Integrated Graphics [Processor]. No unit. Just an IGP.
damn, I got really impressed with the battery life
It will get better when video will play on SoC tile by turning off CPU and GPU Tile.
@@HDRPC True.
If radeon 780m rdna 3 faster than gtx 1650 then this igpu faster than rtx 2050
Can some one help me what is the live wallpaper in the laptop
This is nice and what I call a great adult compromise, being able to use a ultra portable laptop with plenty of ram, room for NVME upgrades, 4k Screen for real HDR netflix..etc and the gaming capabilities for something other than mobile and indie games even at 1080p.
This laptop was made only to work with the Ultra 7 CPU, not to be used by people.
The further sacrifice of hardware customization is ridiculous.
I smell a lot of performance being caused by the balls to the wall memory speed.
I REALLY wish there was a micro center in irelqnd where i live
Love more power! I buy a new laptop every 19 minutes! Keep the power coming !!!!!
Don't like the fact that the track pad wmis WAY offset!
Other than that... Not too bad.
I'm so happy for uhhhh now u have 1 million followers
The power numbers in Skyrim look rather high. How exactly did you come to the conclusion that battery life is good with this system exactly? Because the gaming tests say 2 hours give or take and you gave no other numbers.
Exactly! This is great performance/price but totally brute force. Performance/power still lags.
Reviews suggest battery life is dependent, and although that is obvious, we will need more detailed tests to gauge what this means to different demographic users. A 4K OLED display playing games at high brightness is going to kill it, especially as on battery, its performance only drops 5-10%.
Excellent review of MSI Prestige 16 A.I EVO with the Intel Core Ultra 7 155H processor, good and always LIKE👍
Did you intentionally avoided showing light reflections ? I assume it is like a mirror ?
So does this mean that the 185H graphics versions will be even more powerful?
$1500 is a bit expensive for an iGPU Only laptop
4K HDR Oled laptop definitely going to be expensive.
need ips counterparts for price no more than 750.
this guy never even responds to comments
Even never read them
😢
Yeah because so many Amd fanboy spreading BS. He must be tired hearing that BS from Amd fanboy especially after he tested this Intel Meteor Lake chip and he know this chip is much better than what people thought
It's much worse than I thought. 54w and slower than a 780m @ 30w
Massive props to AMD and intel to make powerful IGPUs cause if that weren't the case we would still have those crappy Mx GPUs from Nvidia
MX series GPU is now replaced with RTX 2050
@@sihamhamda47 it's a gaming GPU the ultra thin laptop GPU market was eliminated by AMD and intel because of powerfull IGPUs all this started way back when intel announced iris xe
Waiting for p2
I'd like to see some productivity 2ork benchmarks
Hmmm all that still haven't taken over AMD last gen
Would love to see it running ubuntu
The specs on that laptop is insane, not the best GPU but the screen and other things are top shelf
Skeptical of msi build quality though. Their 13th gen evo flips were not good from what i read
the competition is always great.
Adding ultra as a name is very strange and does not suit it at all.
Ну наконец-то Интел сделал интегрированную графику более-менее нормальной, ждем видео про эмуляцию ps2, wii, 3ds, ps3. Надеюсь китайцы выпустят приставку с этим процессором.
Meaningful driver improvement never materialized for ARC on desktop, why would Intel suddenly make time for it now?
Let’s hope handhelds use this
Can’t wait for the apple silicon comparisons
Faster than the 780M... while sucking down 3 times the wattage...
Don't get me wrong, I like the performance. Just the price Intel needed to pay to beat it is interesting.
I'm loving this competetion, intel and amd battling it out in the iGPU market will kill the lowend GPUs or cut their prices :)
Exactly, everyone should celebrate Intel comeback because it's good for everyone but instead we got pathetic fanboy downplaying this Intel new chip just because it beat amd and apple newest chip.
It seems really nice but some of the games I notice look a little stuck kinda look. I wonder if the gpu is a 4060-4080 would it be better?
Looks nice. I'll have to watch and see what this laptop offers.
What’s the brightness of the OLED, can’t find any information on it.
Prestige worldwide
Could you test XeSS performance? Thank you.
Read my mind. I wanted this igpu review from ya. Please give more comparative with both 7840u/hs. Please compare the a.i. tech if u can for each?Intel npu vs Ryzen a.i.?
battery life test?
Is this the rumored msi handheld cpu ?
Do emulation test on this device
Yes
With far faster ram
Awesome video!!!! Next can you limit it to 15watts see how it would do in a handheld?
How was the fan noise when gaming?
надо было еще вывести температуры видеоядра, а вообще на мой взгляд, самое лучшее сочетание будет intel core ultra + 4000 nvidia
I'd be really interested in a ThinkPad 14-16" low power ips display and a larger battery using these chips.
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For $1500, this laptop is expensive
Me when I have a 4k hdr oled display "for school"
Can you test the gaming performance in Linux?
Chimera OS maybe?
Does the 2nd m.2 slot support RAID?
Your compairing a 70 watt Intel chip to an AMD 45 watt chip.
This is 28 to 32 watt Intel chip against 45 watt Amd
Intel chip is always above 50w
@@danielalpha8803 ULTRA 7 155H and 165H is a 28 Watt chip and has 44% better battery in light work video playback than 7840U and 79% lower idle power consumption than 7840U.
@@danielalpha8803 only ULTRA 9 185H is 45 Watt chip.
Are you mad?
ULTRA 7 155H and 165H is 28 Watt chip.
I'd much rather use this as an emulation machine than a handheld.
Is the touchpad haptic?
How is the fan noise under load?
that is a lot of wasted space that could have been used for even more cooling
Tested with rpcs3 native resolution and above?
How does the mobile ARC compare to its big brothers when it comes to upscaling and raytracing?
Comparable to A380.
From goofy ahh UHD graphics to Arc, what a journey.
U killed me bro. Is it 60hz?
4k oled and massive battery?
Can you show how to tweak the igpu vram? Thx