You're doing it all wrong. You're supposed to pick one side, ignore anything contradictory to it, and be as loud as possible. That's how progress gets made!
And MRA tactics. And evangelical tactics, and atheists, and right-wingers and left-wingers and...you get the idea. The internet has perfected the art of tribal thinking.
@@nemjef121 If you really wanna defeat the enemy proper, if they use dirty cheap tricks then you'll have to fall to their level. All is fair in love and war.
@@boiledelephant Yeah good point. People get more attention if they pick a good enemy to sh*t on... After all it's much easier to point out what the other one is doing wrong than do it right yourself.
Not bred sucefully doesn't mean dying alone, just mean doesn't having child, and that's good if you like to have a personal life without have to take care of a life. (In the literal sense)
I realized this too. I actually think this is really sad. Women are great. But I do get jealous by the attractive ones for sure. Lots of women can reject and pick and choose as they please. I wish I could do that.
This statistic is a bit misleading if taken at surface level. If you account for higher male death rate with wars and disease and infant mortality, then it’s probably a bit different. I think if you accounted for those numbers, the statistics would still put women pretty high, but also bring men closer to women.
"We're biologically programmed to not care whether men fail." Sad but true. Think of every time you've read/heard a story about a war in which the author said 100 civilians were killed, including 8 women and children. What about the 92 men!?!? Similarly, the awful story about the Chibok schoolgirl kidnapping. It was objectively terrible, however, Boko Haram never kidnaps boys in those situations. Instead they simply slaughter them, and we hear nothing about that.
Actually, they originally did try kidnapping boys, but they got no public attention, so when they went to girls, it worked out so much more better. Lotsa attention.
@@warwickthekingmaker7281 With enough effort I can dig it up, but I will tell you that I saw it in an article on avoiceformen.com. A search of that site for Boku Harum would be a start.
@@warwickthekingmaker7281 right, what a stupid concept. When the germans were bombing london it should've been every man for himself. Fuck the 7 year olds who had an entire life to live and their mothers whose husbands left to fight on the fronts. What a moronic comment. Society values women's lives for a reason, you dislike that because you realize you're expendable. Pitiful.
I feel like he was rather one sided in his arguments. After all, even if historically only half as many men got to breed, the ones that did had twice as many children as the average woman who got to breed. It kind of has to work that way. And while men are more likely to be beaten or killed than women, women are vastly more likely to be raped, but he doesn't mention that either. And while men may now have higher mortality rates from most causes and at most ages, historically women died in childbirth in large numbers. I suspect that men have had longer average lifespans for most of history. He is also kind of disingenuous with his put down of the idea that men run the world for men. Rich men may not influence the world for the betterment of men in general, but they very much do trade favors and discriminate to keep males at the top of the heap, and when they die their accumulated wealth and influence has almost always gone to males rather than females. While he is mentioning the Kinsey study he could have also mentioned that a huge percentage of women rarely or never achieve orgasm. I doubt most guys would want to be even the most attractive sort of female if they had to give that up. I also doubt that most men would want to experience bloating and cramps while bleeding from their crotch every month for decades- unless they were instead dealing with the morning sickness and all the other side effects of pregnancy leading up to the excruciating pain of childbirth. Individually most of the points Lloyd is making are quite reasonable, but when you ignore the even larger number of equally reasonable points on the other side of the argument that isn't just considered sexist, it is sexist.
@@faroncobb6040 You do realize that more men have been killed due to fighting and wars then women who have died in childbirth right? Even when women do die in childbirth how sad that can be, at least if the child survived birth, those women at least complete the circle of life and their genes are passed down. On the other hand men again die a lot more and most of them would never be able to raise a family. Women did die in large numbers due to childbirth but also men were even less likely to survive. Medicine raised both genders life expectancy although mens are still lower. Also would women like to experience war, like having your arm blown off your friends dying around you. I mean men get the shit end of the stick because that's what evolution dictated.
As a woman i completely agree and loved listening to your points! it is not easy for both sexes and society pushed us in these fixed roles. I wish we could all just get along. stop sexism. stop calling each other names and stop harassing people bc they are either male or female. I think your video was excellent and dont let your words be silenced!
@@johnjohnson201 or rather to understand that equality is not sameness. Pseudo-progressives seek all kinds of diversities but in biology and in thought
i was going on to comment just about that. well certainly some odd word mastery, either that or who knows how many months it would have taken someone like me to do this in one go... lol nice vid
Me when I go to a forest: Hey look a tree. When Lindybiege goes to a forest: *Un-biased and educational including the pros and cons of the gender debate.*
MatLaPatate You’re misunderstanding me. Having an opinion on anything means you’re biased, because your personal experiences skew your opinion. Of course, bias isn’t a bad thing, we just think so, now especially, because of the radical, polarized political landscape that’s been kind of normalized over the past few years. You can never be objective, but you can be rational. That being said, he makes some incredibly rational points.
Eli Versus Politics I know right also there’s a lot more pressure on men even at 13 (I’m 13) my mom and almost everyone i know is telling me to think of the future and what stuff I need to take in Highschool and what job I need to support a family meanwhile my older sister is 22 and dropped out of high school and has no pressure
@@Sizzy- They probably also don't want you to end up like your sister. I actually still agree with you in general, but in your specific case, that might be whats going on.
@@Sizzy- Look at it this way. Your sister would've had the same pressure from your family when she was 13 herself. Your case has nothing to do with gender but more where you're both in life I would say.
This is a bit one-sided though. Success in breeding is not good method to judge if someone`s life is better and easier. If that would be true, we would have to consider people of the West as very poor and unhappy, as they have a lot less children than people in India, Sub-saharan Africa or Afganistan.
@@kamilkrupinski1793 One also would need to consider the economics of fertility, and the success of one's offspring. Fertility is heavily influenced by wealth: having more wealth means one has likely less time for romance, they have higher standards for a mate (wealthy self-made women have few mates that meet their standards), access to birth control, access to recreation that would distract from mating, the list goes on. The cost of raising children increases with one's wealth also, making another barrier to high fertility. For the success of one's children, we often see that the countries with the highest fertility rates often have high infant and child mortality rates. It's not so much that we have lots of children, they need to go onto being successful in life (and surviving).
@Josip I'm not quite sure I follow. You are comparing a beautiful woman to a "biological failure" as you put it. That's not a fair comparison. There are many women that are not the "most beautiful" that never have children as well. It's just the way the world works. Men have the opportunity to have kids during their whole lives, however. Women don't have that luxury. In addition to that, being ugly or any deformity most certainly hasn't meant all doom and gloom in the modern era. Maybe back in the pure caveman days, sure, but the reason we are the way we are is because the practical person, not the beautiful one, wins out in the end.
@Josip in my personal experience looks dont outweigh personality, sure it matters but its not everything and i think that the people who really think that use it as an excuse to not work on their personality. A bit like the people on r/niceguys or r/nicegirls
@@jkuhede Bit late, but here are some examples I thought up. Less likely to be seen as competent. More likely to be expected to do unpaid labor such as housework and child rearing which tends to put women at the mercy of partners. Sometimes this works out fine, but if the partner is abusive, it can be challenging to leave without any financial support. Being taken less seriously when seeking medical care. More likely to deal with period pain, (not all women experience this, nor do all people who experience period pain belong to the category, women.) Naturally there are plenty of disadvantages to being a man as well. And even more disadvantages to being nonbinary than either a woman or man, and that's not even including intersex people versus male or female.
If a man achieved a position of great power in a society (president, CEO, judge, etc.), then he had to compete with and put down hundreds, if not thousands of other men. So the suggestion that he will try to help them now is ridiculous.
Lindy's the first to admit its not neutral. He even admits out of the gate that he knows what its like to be a man, not what its like to be a woman, which means there are going to be natural biases and limitations to his perspective, as much as there would be to a woman's on the issue.
Pure Cancer there was a reason why we never wanted woman to work so we have the advantage no they can be “independent “ they don’t need guys anymore... 😢
in my city (Melbourne, Australia) there was a protest to change some pedestrian crossing lights from normal stick figures to stick figures with skirts... i honestly do not know why that would matter so much to somebody that they would put all that effort into changing something so little and meaningless..
I never got that. A woman can wear pants, but a man generally can't wear a skirt. You think a plain stick figure would be more egalitarian as being gender neutral.
In my opinion one of the most balanced and well presented arguments on the subject. It so clearly illustrates how identity politics has gone to such an extreme as to be utter nonsense, whichever "side" you support. His description (regarding his tallness) of how we only notice the drawbacks of our circumstances and rarely notice the benefits was spot on.
In my house I make the important decisions, like if we should recognise the regime in Syria, and my wife takes the little decisions, like how much pocket-money I should have.
Hey now, you also decide if those pants make her ass look fat and she decides if she should take you to the cleaners in a divorce if you answer "It's not the pants, just the ass"
Ban Jo you can tell if a girl is an oddity by observing her speech.certain phrases and statements are a dead giveaway for certain interests and temperaments.just do not go too forcefully in for an interaction.
I mean, we men (Most of the times, not all the times.) do harder things than women. And we deserve rewards based on what we do and not based on what another is getting.
No one is fighting for 50/50 in bricklayers or oil rig workers or ditch diggers or coal miners or high-rise iron workers or.... Equal rights has never meant equal rights; it's always meant cherry picking the perceived advantages and discarding the factual maladies.
@@BronyumHexofloride Many years ago, I had a job that required you to lift 110 lbs (49kg) over your head, move it around, several times an hour all day for 10-14 hours, in addition to climbing ladders wearing 30-40lbs (13-18kg) constantly. The company I worked for actually hired a few women, not ONE made it... every last one of them quit on their first day. They simply could not do the job. Is that discrimination? Should the company have been forced to hire 50% women, and then extra men to help the women hoist around their gear since they couldn't? It's ridiculous, I'm so sick of the notion of bias and discrimination based on gender, it's just almost non-existent. Nobody really cares that much to spend energy hating and plotting and planning in order to discriminate based on gender.
Yeh they always mention that there are more men in STEM fields but not more women in nursing jobs In the end it come down to: 1. Do you want the job 2. Can you do the job, based on qualifications Equal amounts of the sexes in certain fields doesn’t matter as long as they’re getting the best people for the job, and in terms of police and military, the fact that some of the training is easier for women is bullshit, if you can’t handle it, you can’t handle it, it doesn’t matter what you’ve got between your legs, we shouldn’t lower our expectations in the name equality all recruits should be held to the same standard
At first I was thinking what a fool, there were several cases of successful women in the monarchy, like in Russia, Englan... Then I was like, KINGS not queens you dumb fuck
Lol junior. It's not like women have never been sovereigns. Hell, we've had woman presidents of the USA, not in name but in function. Edith Wilson ran the country after her husbands stroke. Of course nowadays we've gotta elect the first woman president no matter how corrupt, stupid, inexperienced, or flat out looney they may be (I'm looking at you Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris.) Otherwise what are you, some kind of FUCKING SEXIST PIG PRIVILEGED SHITLORD!!!?!?!? It's not like women have no leadership abilities, they just run things differently and most seem less inclined to wanna do it.
Men also do most of the hard labor and is much more likely to be injured or die working. Men don’t live as long as women, witch sucks but also means women get all the money(not undeserving necessarily)the husband has saved from his labor. Some women say there is a wage gap, But don’t take into consideration the type of jobs, hours put in(women often chose a better work/family balance) or how men get ahead often due to their biological competitiveness and need to prove oneself, often to get a women. Women beat men in achieving college degrees at all levels in the United States. Although men often are the financial providers, women make the majority of purchases and financial decisions. (Western cultures) Yeah, so there is that....
Mark Kazmier If you are smart and well off the benefits of being a specific gender are minimal . Men have higher wages as they are more likely get higher up in terms of positions. Women live a bit longer and tend to get to spend more time with the family. If you are in a lower socioeconomic group there are still quite stark differences, low skill manual labour jobs are significantly harder for most women than men, access and knowledge about contraception and abortion is significantly lower in lower socioeconomic groups so they may get stuck having kids earlier that they may want (it is significantly easier for a man to run away from an unwanted child than a woman). And then in the third world I think most can agree that being a woman is horrendous.
Christine Smith You make some very good points. I was just pointing out a few negatives for men that are often overlooked. Women Have a lot of unique difficulties as well.
@@adampetrowski did not say that the have a higher chance of promotion. The are more likely to get higher up on the corporate ladder (on average obviously) there are a variety of reasons for this.
I'm tall and the only time it comes in handy is when a light bulb needs replacing and nobody has a ladder. Also I know when people are turning bald before they do.
You being tall also makes you more attractive to women. They get a sense of security out of it that they wouldn't get if you where the same hight as them or slightly taller.
I bang my head against the door each time i've got to stop off the bus... thank goodness for the pad they put there. Also i think that if a tall person fall they would do more damage to their head or shoulders due to falling from a higher height.
No, you dont know when people are going bald before they do. People just are in denial and pretend they are not bald. the day a man starts balding, deep down, he knows. He sees the spot in the mirror, and starts making excuses for why he may not be balding. I went through that myself.
Artur Liebl Depends, the term “common sense” can be abused by others to make them conform to their ways of thinking, but some things can indeed be common sense. It is, for example, common sense to not randomly eat berries you find in the woods. It’s also common sense to not invest all of your money in gambling. Common sense definitely exist.
Y all are bothering too much with this. This madness will soon pass. From the dawn of time men and women have been working together to survive and thrive. This union is literally why all of us are here in the first place.
Never agreed with anything more!! I don’t know how people can be so surefire that their sex has it harder when they’ve never experienced anything else.
#MeToo contradicts what you've said. Infact it causes women to be hired less cause it male managers and higher ups to see women as a threat cause they can have their life completely dismantled by a false rape claim.
@@JimBimBum i m sure this happens in some lines of work and in specific regions. I m also sure that that's not globally true. I for one, have no problem with either hiring ladies and i never really encountered a situation where i was framed a rapist. Again, i do not discredit your point, i just feel it happens in a much smaller scale than it feels like when you observe the matter in social media and in particular Twitter
Woman: I wish I was a man so I wouldn't be so oppressed! Man who has a a bigger chance to die in general, bigger chance to die at work, bigger chance to be attacked and told by others that he doesn't deserve an opinion: *_intense breathing_*
I’m not a masculinist, but I’m definitely for equality. And it is not equality until both men’s and women’s issues are adressed. In the last 20 years men’s issues have been ignored. Men are falling apart. I’m so proud to be one but also sad that women now have many advantages in life that are tearing us apart as men to the point of killing ourselves over 3 times as much as women.
I'm not a woman so I'm not going to discuss their side of the fence as Lindy coined it, I don't think that would be fair. Converserly, I don't think it is fair for women to dictate what men can feel about their issues either. So here is the male side of the fence. In my experience: Men feel more pressure to be tough, hard, competant and not to talk about things or show their emotions. Men aren't allowed to be ill. Tell your female co-workers and they'll be cries of man floo etc. This is one of the reasons why men don't go to the doctors and die more. Men have a harder time at the dating game. A lack of 'traditionally male' jobs because of the decline of industry has resulted in a crisis of identidy for a lot of boys and men. Men get a really hard time when getting custody of their children. Male rape and domestic abuse is seen as a joke. Men are way more likely to be homeless, poor, addicts or in jail. They also serve longer sentences for the same crimes. Men are way more likely to commit suicide or be depressed, and Male post natal depression is seen as a joke. Men are way more likely to die or be seriously hurt through violence. Men don't live as long in general. Boys do worse than girls in school. Men working with children are viewed with more suspicion - are trusted less. Now I'm not saying women don't have their issues either, because they do, but these are my experiences.
@@Qinglady-ue6wm A good friend of mine has been succesfully raped and is afraid to tell her friends about it because she doesn't want them to get locked up for jumping him and beating him to death with shovels.
"I can open Jam jars and I got this bass voice, which I prefer" - Lindybeige I absolutely loved this video, I would love more rants on silly topics like this. It's very entertaining.
In south korea, every man have to serve 2 years in military. That is huge disadvantage compared to woman...whats more horrendous thing is, we don't get paid for service since its a comnscription policy
Except it's pretty much exactly that. He's just given the reasons why it's such a straight forward answer, but the answer is straight forward. Do men have it easier ? No. Why ? Watch video, it's a summary of why. The argument of violence experience is a very strong one.
Knights of the Nine Not really, He went to a boarding school I myself have only watched 2 of his videos, he seems quite smart, he definitely sounds very intelligent... Though I did know most the points he made when I was 15years of age
Extremely British answer "You're a man, would you like to be a woman?" *THICK BRITISH ACCENT* "terribly droll idea ol boy, I've only JUST mastered beard trimming , God only knows I've had a enough nicked lips to start retraining for a little southern clearing."
Its incredible how many people immediately become unreasonable dickheads the second the argument goes online, like in comment sections and forums people tend to act and say shit that they would never say in person. Its kind of embarrassing for them
Yea definitely. When you're female you have the advantage to choose who you want to date. Most girls I know that don't date don't do it because it's scary and everyone has planted this idea that it will ruin your succsses in life. Or the "men bad" thing that makes no sense. Ofc not every dude is going to get you pregnant and leave you or use you, yea some will, but there's always bad people. Women are definitely more manipulative and put themselves first much more than men. They are smarter in that case. A smart woman can ruin a man's life maybe the same amount as a man can ruin a woman's life. And this goes unnoticed. Society is built to credit people like that and people are like that because they are raised to become that way. But again not every woman is manipulative and not every guy is only using you. We have worse problems.
No one wants to be tall so that theyll be able to pick off stuff from shelves. They want to be tall because women find tall people more attractive and tall people are respected more simply by the virtue of their height.
Can't confirm, I am almost 2 meters tall and it isn't easy getting respect, and the part about women finding me more attractive because of it? No evidence of that at all in my life.
Then you are just unattractive and probably don't do much to govern real respect anyways. It's a harsh reality out there. Also... Almost 2 meters isn't exactly "tall"... That's a pretty average height among men at least it is here in Canada. I know because I'm about the same height 5 foot 11 inches, or 180 cm. But if you were to put two men with equal position in power and attractiveness next to each other and ask people to choose who they think is the "real leader" or who they'd choose as a partner. Most cases are going to end up choosing the one who is taller. Obviously there are outliers. Using yourself isn't a good example. How are you going to notice something like that? You aren't going to notice weather or not people are giving you more or less respect because you are tall. Not unless someone tells you directly that's the reason.
You do realize that "almost two meters" means he is like 6'6 or something and.. you know... that's like a whole head taller than you. That's far from being average, especially in Canada. Even here in Germany you see those people not very often. And btw I can fully agree on the guy's point. Height doesn't matter at all, except if you don't have any other things in your life and you can only brag with your height. However, something like that can be easily outweighed by the shape of your face or your weight, so basically a guy who is 5'3 and is good looking, muscular and confident will get probably in the end of the day by far more girls than the giant, who looks average.
Ah right, sorry you're correct. I was thinking of Yards not Meters. So my bad on that point, not sure how I got that mixed up. But my point wasn't that height is the only deciding factor. I thought I made that clear. I made the point that 2 people of equal standards with the only difference being height, the guy who is taller generally governs more immediate respect. But he could gain or lose respect just as quick, this is merely a superficial standard based on appearance. Yes there are plenty of other factors like you say. That's why I said, he probably doesn't do much to govern respect in the first place. Height doesn't mean instant respect, height can just increase the respect you already have from other aspects of you, weather it be appearance, line of business, attitude, popularity, personality, etc. Again, I never said height was the deciding factor off the get go. It's just a "bonus" i guess you might say. You're right, it's better to be short good looking and confident, than tall and painfully average.
As a woman, the only thing I hate about my gender is having painful, intense periods, especially due to the fact that I have PCOS. But, I enjoy being a woman. Yes, there are some issues in our western society, but I am so grateful I was not born in other countries where even trying to have a say will get you beaten up or killed. These are the issues I witnessed men having to face: 1. Being told they're pussies for showing emotions, or simply trying to avoid conventional boyish activities. 2. Being told they're pussies for still being virgin at 18. 3. Having to be "the strong" one in a couple, or having to choose a certain career because otherwise they're not "man" enough. 4. Feeling the stress of not being the "providing" head of the family. Calm down, we're in the 21st century, and both women and men should contribute to the family. Numerous cases of suicide I read on newspaper, were because the father couldn't stand the idea of not being a "proper" man because he was unemployed. A woman is not an object, is not a body, a vagina, just like a man is not his money, or his job. 5. Being afraid of flirting with a woman, because some women probably misinterpret normal, proper flirting and think it's harassment and molestation. Yes, I saw a girl at the club who grabbed a guy by his throat simply because he was smiling at her. 6. This is personal because it's only based on my experience seeing my brother and other boys in the neighbourhood but... Definitely superficial and shallow friendships, because they never EVER talk with each other about secrets, insecurities, problems. All they do is playing soccer or videogames together, telling bullshit, jokes. But the moment they need help, they never talk about it, holding it until it becomes too big to be managed, ending up in episodes of extreme anger and frustration towards family and institution. 7. Having to endure a woman's rage and even violence, because "hitting" women is wrong. Hitting a woman is not necessarily domestic violence. Domestic violence is a mix of physical AND mental abuse and manipulation, it's a specific dynamics and it can't be attributed to, let's say, a simply slap or a punch. Of course men are usually stronger, but why should the woman feel entitled to hit a man, and then feel shocked if he slaps her in return? If a woman is annoying you, she is hurting you, you should be able to react. Maybe try not to use your full force like you'd do with a man, but DO something. 8. Most of the time, when a couple gets a divorce, it's always the woman who gets custody of the kids. I witnessed some fucked up scenarios where the woman was not able to care for the kids and the kids WANTED to stay with the dad, yet she won because she was "the mother". There are other things but I currently only remember these ones.
I’m a guy and I can deal with I’d say most of these problems because as much as they suck I wouldn’t want to deal with periods and child birth due to the pain, mood swings, etc. But the thing that pisses me off the most is that guys usually can’t bring most of these arguments up without being called a sexist, and being judged by everyone around. We will see it in our daily lives that some women will protest or even just fight for their problems, but when a guy steps in he will get outnumbered and bashed because he doesn’t have a say. Sometimes yes I want to fight with you
Good to know some women have a sense of reality. Number 8 hits me hard... especially I love having my own kids someday. I even treat my youngest sister as a pretend daughter of mine. But number 6 never happened to me that much, I'm pretty lucky to have wonderful friends.
@@CamoFFAArmy I mean, even though you can probably handle most of these, having men that were told to be "pussies" for normal things, have repercussions on their personality, ultimately damaging those around them. It makes them cold and unable to express their feelings properly, or extremely proud. Maybe I just live in a shitty neighbourhood but that's part of my experience: men who can't say sorry, who can't sympathize with others, men who only want to fuck around because they were always told "women are bitches, they will hurt you" and so on. Even if it seems like a small detail, I wish boys were given the opportunity to cry, and be sensitive, and be whatever they wanted to be. How many times have you seen a father telling his kid "men don't cry"? It's also part of the reasons why, as the guy said in the video, women are more likely to ATTEMPT suicide, whereas men actually kill themselves. If only they were able to cope with a damaged ego and negative feelings, some of these men could have been helped, but they rarely seek for help because "men don't cry".
@@CamoFFAArmy Anyways, yes, I agree with you when you say that if a man brings up something like this, is called sexist. Or women tend to tell him "shut up, we are the oppressed ones so you can't bring up your issues". As a feminist, I often have to deal with women that only think about their causes, without considering the fact that, the more they focus on Them only, the more divided we become, instead of uniting and helping each other.
THANK YOU woman overpower men in society they get all the love and care regardless of if they deserve it or not... I thank you for finally exposing society but sadly your comment has gotten lost due to only having 12 likes... key note most people dont like to read unless its interesting... so next time for the sake of argument make it shorter and stronger so they will listen
lmao! As soon as i read your comment, i was all eyes on his clavicular area. Saw the cute thing inching a few seconds later! I love how some things work out like that
I know of a couple where both the man and woman worked very highly paid jobs. They had bought a second home and their first house had been rented out to help pay the mortgage on the second one. It turned out when the renter left, that they had trashed the house completely, and the couple were unable to rent it after that without huge repairs so were struggling with the mortgage payments on the second house and the repairs on the first house. At the insistence of her husband, the wife started looking for a higher paid job, in order to help cope with the bills. She went to interviews and got the job offer, but then didn't want to leave the job she was in as she really liked it and it was closer to her children and home - had she taken the new job she wouldn't have been able to drop the kids off at school, or make their dinner, or spend time helping them with their homework etc (something that she'd always done and her husband didn't do). She couldn't decide what to do - take new job and higher money and be able to pay the bills, or stay in the lower paid job and be able to be a mother to her children. Her husband was pushing her to take the better job as they desperately needed the money or they'd default on the mortgage, so she eventually went to her boss and told him/her about the situation, that she'd have to take the higher paid job (even though she was unhappy about it and loved her job, and didn't want to leave). Her boss said she was indispensable to the company, promoted her to a more senior position, and gave her a substantial raise (more than the other job was offering). It struck me as I heard this story, that perhaps part of the reason women are often paid less than men is because they don't want to risk losing their jobs by asking for more money (whereas men will often take that risk, and some of them may fail and lose their job entirely). She was doing her job as well as (or better than) any of the men in her workplace and obviously deserved the raise, but she'd never asked for it before this point (and only had this conversation with her boss at all because her husband had pushed her into getting a better paid job). Also I can see that many women are perhaps more concerned about their family's welfare than their own personal success - as a mother she had to worry about whether her family were fed, taken care of and happy. Her husband didn't have to worry about this (since she did it for him) and worked longer hours further from home because it paid more (even though it meant he didn't spend as much time with his kids and wasn't there to prepare meals, take them to school or help with homework). It's not that women aren't as good at their jobs - it's that women play it safe and consider family needs before personal success (basically they are less competitive than men).
I disagree with the idea that man focus on their jobs for selfish reasons, I know a lot of man that would prefer to spend more time with family and work less, but between that and letting their mates get the more pleasureble job. They choose make the sacrifice without even thinking about it
@@victoraugusto743 It's not that it's for selfish reasons, I didn't mean to imply that, they are providing money for the family after all. It's more that because women usually do all the home life stuff (childcare, cleaning, cooking) men can afford to focus more on their jobs, put in longer hours, go out socializing with their workmates and bosses after work etc and know that the family will still be taken care of.
a much shorter version: women have the luxury of choosing personal happiness over career. men are pressured by their wives to choose career over personal happiness.
@@sabin97 Thats not what happened in the story. The female was being pushed to get a better job. And she didn't decide between family and career. If she did, she wouldn't be working. In the story the female talks to her boss about it and he gives her a promotion. That means more work. Meanwhile the husband was pushing her to take the new job. It is obvious that her happiness would of been to spend all her time with family, however, she couldn't do that. Youre comment is the opposite of what happened in the story. "Women have the luxury of choosing personal happiness of carrer." No, she decided to try to get a better job. "Men are pressured by their wives to choose carrer over personal happiness." No, the male was never pushed to do anything. Actually, the opposite hapoened. The male pushed the female to choose career.
i work in a school that is pretty traditional but making good strides of progress. we have almost exactly a 50/50 male/female teacher split, and the office jobs are the same. we have 4 principal and vice-principal positions, all of which had been held by the same 4 men for 25 years. they were of course getting on a bit, and a couple years ago the principal and one of the vice principals retired. one of the vice principals naturally got promoted to principal, which left 2 vice principal positions free, and they were filled by 2 senior male teachers. i was close to outraged. we were doing so well and then they pull this? to drum up a bit of support before making anything of it, i talked to some of the senior female teachers about how they felt about it. 4 of them had been offered the jobs, one was offered a second time with more money when the other 3 turned it down, and she turned it down again, all 4 giving a mixture of not wanting more hours and more responsibility, and preferred being more close to a few students than only a little contact with all of them. it was only after that the positions were then offered to male teachers. i was then almost counter-outraged. why should any women or any men be offered more money just because the sex they happen to be differs from the sex of other people in the company? i now firmly believe in accepting people's choices, and making all offers fair and balanced. we shouldn't deny people who want a job and coax others who don't want it just to make more pleasing statistics.
+satoau1 Beautiful story. Had you not actually looked into the situation by talking to the women involved, you'd really be getting the wrong side of the story. Regardless of the context and theme, it's an important lesson to learn that getting both sides is very important.
I guess she was offered more money, because whoever did the hiring saw the benefit of balancing out the genders. I hope they'd consider the same if the situation was the opposite :)
yes, and we try to balance genders to make things fair to both, but then if we're offering more money to one gender that is unfair and we're doing the exact thing we're trying to avoid. if genders have the same employment opportunity that is fair, regardless of who decides to take the opportunity offered.
Yes, god forbid we base jobs on merit and instead go with the extremely sexist approach and make a position based entirely if they are the right sex for the job. We need to get that 50/50 balanced because that really makes for a quality workforce.
There were some statistics I stumbled uopn a while ago. Ut says that 'average' looking women actually have an easier time getting a man than the extremely attractive ones. The reasoning would be that men are feel like she is almost certainly with another man so it isn't worth spending energy on her, so they go for less attractive women
Isak s Actually, I would say the reason is because men are more likely to want sex (biology!) They’re more likely to settle whereas a woman might go for a more attractive man. I wouldn’t say that’s a downside to being male because the man is getting what he wants (more sex). It can however be seen as a downside to women who don’t care as much for the sex. They are getting less meaningful relationships than they want.
@@conradsmith9441 the thing with how the brain is programmed is that a male brain is programmed to spread their genes to as many people as possible to make a lot of offspring. whilst women are programmed to try and get the best male to carry their offspring. there is viritually no limit on how many offspring a man can have but the amount is greatly limited for a woman. this means that women are programmed to aim way above their league whilst men are generally going for one that can make babies and are healthy.
@@adampetrowski this is true. it comes from how many offspring one can have. a man can have viritually no limit of offspring with many partners whilst women have to find a good one cause they have to carry and nurture that baby for years to come. so the women are going for the good genes and the successful ones just so they can give their kids security when growing up. the thoughts aren't the same nowerdays but the effect is still just as prevelent today as it were thousands of years ago
This is the very first Lindybiege video I ever saw, which happened to show up in my recommended a while ago, maybe over a year by now. I'm glad I found him, there is something very enjoyable about watching a knowledgable, charismatic Brit ranting on about things he is passionate over.
@@ΚωνσταντινοςΑλιραι I thought they'd call blabbering sea cows that learned to walk and barely learned what English was. They love to yell facist but want to restrict speech so either they don't understand what it means or they're projecting.
I like your voice, too, I find it soothing and soothing voices are nice to listen to (coincidentally, you choose to make TH-cam videos where you do a lot of talking).
But it depends on your culture. In Chinese culture (specifically traditional ones), males are everything. Mothers are shamed on for giving birth to girls
@@nostalgicrobot it makes sense you would want a guardian to protect her and decrease her already low chances of being attacked, and also driving cars is literally responsible for most premature deaths in modern societies, gotta keep those precious valued citizens alive
I can't help but wonder how many of these people have watched it and only taken in what they wanted to hear. They talk as if Lindy was saying being a man is harder, which he in no way said.
Honestly, I disagree. This comment section is relatively tame and contains a number of reasoned and rational arguments, as is typical of a Lindy video, I find. You evidently haven't braved any videos covering American politics recently. Now THAT is a shit-show! ;P
@TheOneLichemperor: Don't even get me started on that shit.. Have to deal with that sort of comments on a daily basis from people since I'm a landscaper.
@Abysswalk: And he is 100% correct in that aspect, it is impossible to know what it is exactly to be any other gender then your own as someone born that way was. Nor can one that isn't gay know exactly what it is to be them and vis-versa. Their should be accommodation or at least debate if one side expresses concern about treatment just for something that they have zero control over though whether it be men, women, or anything in-between. That requires the opposite gender to at least try and understand where they are coming from which is something that a good amount of people just sadly seem to lack.
Also, when I was of child bearing age, I was profoundly beautiful, and Lindy is right. Free stuff every where. Everyone jumping to help. I DID think that's just the way the world works. ...
This. This right here. The only reasonable person I've ever seen that actually acknowledges the cons of the opposite sex without yelling and overly supporting his own gender. And personally, I've thought about similar stuff many times, and seeing this video makes me feel quite proud of myself. It's my first time seeing this channel, but I'm definitely subscribing, you're the best.
Oh my brain! This is the most reasonable thing I've heard on this subject! I can't know what your side of the fence is like, you can't know what my side is like. Can't we all just get along? I now absolutely love you Lindybeige.
Wow, this randomly showed up in my recommended and it's the first video on this topic I've seen that brings reasonable arguements for both sides. Subscribed.
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The word easier can confuse people. Saying that we don't have it easier doesn't mean it's harder or that being a women is easier. It means that it has it's fair share of challenges, but it can't be just left at that of course.
First video I see of you. It's a real pleasure to listen someone about this subject that is humble. You are trying to speak the truth, and use logic over subjective emotions.
Two other examples I hear a lot are "but men control the government", but in most western democracies I know of, the majority of the electorate are women, so they are the ones controlling the government--they're just bad at organizing and picking female candidates. I also hear "but women have to give birth", to that I say 'you GET to give birth'. It's an ability women can choose to use that I can't, that's a strength. Finally, you hear women talk about wage or rape statistics. But from what I've learned about these statistics, they are often either flawed in the data collection phase or are used in arguments out of context. At the very least they are used correctly but are not paired with statistics like male suicide and prison sentences. People are people. I am a man, but I'm not "men". My experience is my life. There's no such thing as "men's" or "women's" life, we are more than just our gender so when we analyze why our life sucks we can't know if it's because of just that one factor, gender.
I wasn't implying that a guy is forced to have a kid if he has sex, though I do think it is relevant to note that women have more control in the choice to abort in many countries. That might be fair but it's not equal (and that can be okay, equality isn't always possible) But what I meant was, if a woman wants to have a biological child, she can go to a sperm bank and just get pregnant; a guy can;t do that. Both genders can adopt so that's equivalent. It's true that a woman "has to go through pregnancy" if she wants biological children, but I still see that as a strength because she has a choice to go through pregnancy herself or adopt, whereas a guy can't choose to have a biological child. Also, of the mothers I know, the majority did not see their pregnancy as a detriment, so I don't know if the general female perception is that pregnancy sucks. When I talk to women who aren't mothers, they often express fear or discomfort with the idea of being pregnant, but I haven't met a pregnant woman who felt that way.
In a republic, the electorate votes for representatives. Those representatives can vote however they wish, it is the role of the electorate to hold their representatives accountable. If a representative is not voting in their constituents best interests, then they can be replaced. So the mostly female electorate still has more power than the minority male electorate when only analyzing gender. The issue of corrupt politicians impacts genders equally because corruption doesn't fight for men, it fights for those individuals in power. So even in the case where all are ruled by a corrupt king or dictator, the gender of the dictator doesn't means that those that share his/her gender are any better off. I will grant that when there are a more equal number of women in decision making, the decisions do tend to better include women's issues (which makes sense because there's stronger advocacy). So I think that there ought to be women in the decision making process, but the foundation of democracy is that the *people* choose the leadership. Even if better decisions would come from a mix, it's the job of the electorate to put the better decision makers in power. You can then talk about how not as many women want to be politicians and maybe that's nature or maybe that's nurture. But at that point in the argument, we would be using so much conjecture so far from the key debate (do women have equal political power to men) that I don't think that line of reasoning could result in anything other than a difference of opinion due to mutual ignorance of the facts.
Yeah men don't control the government in in modern democracies everyone does. Further, there are more female voters than male voters. Women live longer and there's slightly more women born then men born. So if anything, women have the voting advantage.
It is definitely a case that rich people have a lot more control over government than men or women. Biological gender doesn't really account for much when half of the entire world population fits into one group. There is dozens, perhaps hundreds of factors to determine if you have an easier or harder life, and gender does effect it but it is still only one piece. Suddenly waking up the opposite gender isn't going to make you rich or more beautiful, or have better parents, or live in a different country.
When I was a young male, addicted to heroin... very few people cared. We definitely are born to fail. But as you said, we need to get along and not point so many fingers. Love more hate less.
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this man straight up walking through a bob ross painting
lmao now that you say it
Its called nature lmao
lol
@@andreimarsic6607 True
Happy little trees everywhere
You're doing it all wrong. You're supposed to pick one side, ignore anything contradictory to it, and be as loud as possible. That's how progress gets made!
Horay for modern feminist tactics
And MRA tactics. And evangelical tactics, and atheists, and right-wingers and left-wingers and...you get the idea. The internet has perfected the art of tribal thinking.
XD
@@nemjef121 If you really wanna defeat the enemy proper, if they use dirty cheap tricks then you'll have to fall to their level. All is fair in love and war.
@@boiledelephant Yeah good point. People get more attention if they pick a good enemy to sh*t on...
After all it's much easier to point out what the other one is doing wrong than do it right yourself.
*What it looks like:* A crazy hobo talking to himself.
*What it actually is:* An intelligent man breaking down an issue in a very level-headed manner.
Why not both?
Haha, it probably is both.
@@zamarickz he has a house
The camera didn't actually exist, we're all imaginary folks from Lloyd's mind.
He was walking alone. Still is. Lucky us.
Its the accent lmao
This dude is saying that about 60% of dudes die alone, I feel that
But contradictory you are in the 60% so your not alone
so about 60% of dudes are gonna die happy, ill say
Not bred sucefully doesn't mean dying alone, just mean doesn't having child, and that's good if you like to have a personal life without have to take care of a life. (In the literal sense)
I realized this too. I actually think this is really sad. Women are great. But I do get jealous by the attractive ones for sure. Lots of women can reject and pick and choose as they please. I wish I could do that.
This statistic is a bit misleading if taken at surface level. If you account for higher male death rate with wars and disease and infant mortality, then it’s probably a bit different. I think if you accounted for those numbers, the statistics would still put women pretty high, but also bring men closer to women.
"We're biologically programmed to not care whether men fail." Sad but true.
Think of every time you've read/heard a story about a war in which the author said 100 civilians were killed, including 8 women and children. What about the 92 men!?!? Similarly, the awful story about the Chibok schoolgirl kidnapping. It was objectively terrible, however, Boko Haram never kidnaps boys in those situations. Instead they simply slaughter them, and we hear nothing about that.
Not to mention the entire concept of "women and children first"
Actually, they originally did try kidnapping boys, but they got no public attention, so when they went to girls, it worked out so much more better. Lotsa attention.
@@GeeTrieste do you have a source on that?
@@warwickthekingmaker7281 With enough effort I can dig it up, but I will tell you that I saw it in an article on avoiceformen.com.
A search of that site for Boku Harum would be a start.
@@warwickthekingmaker7281 right, what a stupid concept. When the germans were bombing london it should've been every man for himself. Fuck the 7 year olds who had an entire life to live and their mothers whose husbands left to fight on the fronts.
What a moronic comment. Society values women's lives for a reason, you dislike that because you realize you're expendable. Pitiful.
Careful Lloyd, you're making a lot of reasonable points and I believe thats considered sexist :/
lmao
69 likes.. nice
@@TactfulWaggle I see 249 likes ;-) Guess they breed.
I feel like he was rather one sided in his arguments. After all, even if historically only half as many men got to breed, the ones that did had twice as many children as the average woman who got to breed. It kind of has to work that way. And while men are more likely to be beaten or killed than women, women are vastly more likely to be raped, but he doesn't mention that either. And while men may now have higher mortality rates from most causes and at most ages, historically women died in childbirth in large numbers. I suspect that men have had longer average lifespans for most of history. He is also kind of disingenuous with his put down of the idea that men run the world for men. Rich men may not influence the world for the betterment of men in general, but they very much do trade favors and discriminate to keep males at the top of the heap, and when they die their accumulated wealth and influence has almost always gone to males rather than females. While he is mentioning the Kinsey study he could have also mentioned that a huge percentage of women rarely or never achieve orgasm. I doubt most guys would want to be even the most attractive sort of female if they had to give that up. I also doubt that most men would want to experience bloating and cramps while bleeding from their crotch every month for decades- unless they were instead dealing with the morning sickness and all the other side effects of pregnancy leading up to the excruciating pain of childbirth. Individually most of the points Lloyd is making are quite reasonable, but when you ignore the even larger number of equally reasonable points on the other side of the argument that isn't just considered sexist, it is sexist.
@@faroncobb6040 You do realize that more men have been killed due to fighting and wars then women who have died in childbirth right? Even when women do die in childbirth how sad that can be, at least if the child survived birth, those women at least complete the circle of life and their genes are passed down. On the other hand men again die a lot more and most of them would never be able to raise a family. Women did die in large numbers due to childbirth but also men were even less likely to survive. Medicine raised both genders life expectancy although mens are still lower. Also would women like to experience war, like having your arm blown off your friends dying around you. I mean men get the shit end of the stick because that's what evolution dictated.
"I can open jam jars". Well, we've got a winner, it seems.
Yeah, in a survival situation where the only food available to me is a jam jar, I’ll be happy that I’m a man.
I can’t
@@RanOutOfSpac add that to the pro list lmao
I saw the comment at the same time he said that lmao
@@brot2878 same
As a woman i completely agree and loved listening to your points! it is not easy for both sexes and society pushed us in these fixed roles. I wish we could all just get along. stop sexism. stop calling each other names and stop harassing people bc they are either male or female. I think your video was excellent and dont let your words be silenced!
I wish we’d stop playing the oppression Olympics and just make everything better for everyone
If we could all just talk and actually listen to each other
@@johnjohnson201 or rather to understand that equality is not sameness. Pseudo-progressives seek all kinds of diversities but in biology and in thought
Basically Attractive Women don’t have to work a day in their life. Unattractive Women have it hard but 99% of men also have it hard. so there you go.
Yeah can we just agree that life is shit to all of us but just in different ways and try to find ways to mitigate it.
A 17 minute video in ONE take... You sure have your thoughts in order!
Daniel S it’s seventeen minutes and one second 😜
14:56 in one take, but yea still impressive.
i was going on to comment just about that. well certainly some odd word mastery, either that or who knows how many months it would have taken someone like me to do this in one go... lol nice vid
Well it's actually two takes. The main video and the addendum.
Lindy does this, as a natural "thang." He is my kid's "Monty Python" generation!
"men are born to fail."
thank you, Lindy, i could listen to your brilliant rambling all day.
and your beard looks fantastic.
It's fucking majestic isn't it
@Federal Bureau of Investigations FBI wants a new beard huh?
I agree with the beard thing
he's the only person i will believe when he says he will be a king because of the beard
Lloyd, maybe you don't want to be a female... but would you consider being a Frenchman?
That's likely to be the most dangerous comment here.
I just barfed a little
Well, judging from this video, he'd really like to be Swiss.
Lloyd responds with, "Allah akbar." *kaboom*
What, and have to surrender all the time? No thank you!
Let's all take a minute to appreciate the arm strength it took to hold the camera up to his face for 17 minutes
Not strength but endurance
The endurance of a man i guess
69 likes nice
Did you not watch this on a phone?
@@Andrew-on3vc I dont hold the phone up caissey neistat style the whole time tho
Me when I go to a forest: Hey look a tree.
When Lindybiege goes to a forest: *Un-biased and educational including the pros and cons of the gender debate.*
Not unbiased. Good points but you cannot say unbiased. This is only a part of the answer.
Marz Exactly my thoughts. Bias is intrinsic to discussion. It’s the very essence of compromise and agreement.
Marz Can you give an example of a biased argument that he gave, because for the life of me, I can’t find one.
MatLaPatate You’re misunderstanding me. Having an opinion on anything means you’re biased, because your personal experiences skew your opinion. Of course, bias isn’t a bad thing, we just think so, now especially, because of the radical, polarized political landscape that’s been kind of normalized over the past few years. You can never be objective, but you can be rational. That being said, he makes some incredibly rational points.
I actually think the same exact thoughts when waking. I just never made a video about it
I've noticed that a lot of the advantages of being male are biological, whereas a lot of the advantages of being female are social.
They're social in the sense that they are only present with multiple people, but they're not socially constructed because they're evolutionary caused.
Eli Versus Politics I know right also there’s a lot more pressure on men even at 13 (I’m 13) my mom and almost everyone i know is telling me to think of the future and what stuff I need to take in Highschool and what job I need to support a family meanwhile my older sister is 22 and dropped out of high school and has no pressure
@Sizzy Well, you don't need to start a family if you don't want to. Take it from me, I'm 23 and I don't plan on having one.
@@Sizzy- They probably also don't want you to end up like your sister. I actually still agree with you in general, but in your specific case, that might be whats going on.
@@Sizzy- Look at it this way. Your sister would've had the same pressure from your family when she was 13 herself. Your case has nothing to do with gender but more where you're both in life I would say.
Love or hate him, He's is speaking straight facts right here
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This is a bit one-sided though. Success in breeding is not good method to judge if someone`s life is better and easier. If that would be true, we would have to consider people of the West as very poor and unhappy, as they have a lot less children than people in India, Sub-saharan Africa or Afganistan.
@@kamilkrupinski1793 One also would need to consider the economics of fertility, and the success of one's offspring. Fertility is heavily influenced by wealth: having more wealth means one has likely less time for romance, they have higher standards for a mate (wealthy self-made women have few mates that meet their standards), access to birth control, access to recreation that would distract from mating, the list goes on. The cost of raising children increases with one's wealth also, making another barrier to high fertility.
For the success of one's children, we often see that the countries with the highest fertility rates often have high infant and child mortality rates. It's not so much that we have lots of children, they need to go onto being successful in life (and surviving).
Basically, we're all in the shitter. That's just how life is.
@Josip I'm not quite sure I follow. You are comparing a beautiful woman to a "biological failure" as you put it. That's not a fair comparison. There are many women that are not the "most beautiful" that never have children as well. It's just the way the world works. Men have the opportunity to have kids during their whole lives, however. Women don't have that luxury. In addition to that, being ugly or any deformity most certainly hasn't meant all doom and gloom in the modern era. Maybe back in the pure caveman days, sure, but the reason we are the way we are is because the practical person, not the beautiful one, wins out in the end.
Yep
@Josip in my personal experience looks dont outweigh personality, sure it matters but its not everything and i think that the people who really think that use it as an excuse to not work on their personality. A bit like the people on r/niceguys or r/nicegirls
At least we can all be failures together. I know its uncomfortable but at least we're all still important parts of the circle of life.
@skylerelax no what friend
Women get more empathy by society, so mens issues get vastly more ignored compared to women's.
No. Enbys, Women and Men all have a disadvantage.
Thats toxic masculinity for ya
@@yeosswhat disadvantages do women have?
@@jkuhede
Bit late, but here are some examples I thought up.
Less likely to be seen as competent. More likely to be expected to do unpaid labor such as housework and child rearing which tends to put women at the mercy of partners. Sometimes this works out fine, but if the partner is abusive, it can be challenging to leave without any financial support. Being taken less seriously when seeking medical care. More likely to deal with period pain, (not all women experience this, nor do all people who experience period pain belong to the category, women.)
Naturally there are plenty of disadvantages to being a man as well. And even more disadvantages to being nonbinary than either a woman or man, and that's not even including intersex people versus male or female.
If a man achieved a position of great power in a society (president, CEO, judge, etc.), then he had to compete with and put down hundreds, if not thousands of other men. So the suggestion that he will try to help them now is ridiculous.
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Yeah. But I sure as hell don't help the people who tried to take my job.
What are you saying exactly? Get back to me I want to talk
@@ichigo_miruku_qt843 well if you a re a king there is pretenders.. if you rule a country there are probably other guys that want to rule.
I'm impressed by the Lindy's ability to neutrally navigate what is today an incredibly loaded topic.
Lindy's the first to admit its not neutral. He even admits out of the gate that he knows what its like to be a man, not what its like to be a woman, which means there are going to be natural biases and limitations to his perspective, as much as there would be to a woman's on the issue.
Put women in the kind of trials men face, and you got yourself a way to compare. Vice versa.
Feminists will not consider this neutral, lol
Ironic. The age where we strive for equality is leaving us more divided
Pure Cancer there was a reason why we never wanted woman to work so we have the advantage no they can be “independent “ they don’t need guys anymore... 😢
Well said "Pure Cancer"
Eh... No.
Yeah, there is division, but no, we are not more divided than before, is not making us more divided at all (compared with the past).
We’re in a weird time
SBV _TH-cam to reproduce you need a male and a woman so I guess for the humanity we kinda need both sex still lol
in my city (Melbourne, Australia) there was a protest to change some pedestrian crossing lights from normal stick figures to stick figures with skirts... i honestly do not know why that would matter so much to somebody that they would put all that effort into changing something so little and meaningless..
magical pineapple and if it succeeded they would complain about skirts being oppressive
I never got that. A woman can wear pants, but a man generally can't wear a skirt. You think a plain stick figure would be more egalitarian as being gender neutral.
Stick figures aren't all men, though, right? They just represent people. I mean, you don't have to wear a skirt in real life to be considered female.
It's all about power.
Any power they can get is worth whatever they have to do to get it.
Just change it to a man in a kilt but tell the women that it's a woman
I was very surprised by the lack of dislikes when I clicked on this video. Good job Lindybeige!
gjaddajg or most of his viewers are normal people
gjaddajg well shit thanks for telling me. That's fucked up.
In my opinion one of the most balanced and well presented arguments on the subject. It so clearly illustrates how identity politics has gone to such an extreme as to be utter nonsense, whichever "side" you support.
His description (regarding his tallness) of how we only notice the drawbacks of our circumstances and rarely notice the benefits was spot on.
Sir, I'd like to hear the caterpillar's opinion on the matter, if you'd please.
lmao i noticed it too
this is so underrated lmao
Did anyone notice the caterpillar on his shoulder!?!
Oh My God, so cute :D
I was looking for this comment lmao, it was so distracting to see it creeping over his shoulder!
*Inch worm
Time stamp???
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Gone, reduced to atoms 5:37
Does the Bren LMG have it easier than the mg42?
Stop marginalizing the m1919
Nigel Guven wtf what about the dshk.
I laughed loudly
Yes the MG42 gets overheated too quick and takes longer to reload
bruh m60 has the easy life
In my house I make the important decisions, like if we should recognise the regime in Syria, and my wife takes the little decisions, like how much pocket-money I should have.
Hey now, you also decide if those pants make her ass look fat and she decides if she should take you to the cleaners in a divorce if you answer "It's not the pants, just the ass"
Ha!
The man is the head of the household, but the woman is the neck. She turns the head whichever way she likes.
I avoid this problem by staying unmarried and woman-free. That makes me the head, neck, hands, and entire body of my house.
@Captain Tim Curry 60% of men are with you, Brother. #TheSilentMajority
Men : high variability, high risk and high reward.
Women : less variability, lower risk, lower reward.
"High" and "low" referring to the extremitites
I Would say: Women: low risk, medium reward.
Men: High risk, high reward.
Indeed,I noticed that women just don't go too far beyond their typical social behavior. Its why many of them are really boring and uninteresting.
@@necrosteel5013 I agree man, but don't let that stop you from finding an interestin, quality girl.
Ban Jo you can tell if a girl is an oddity by observing her speech.certain phrases and statements are a dead giveaway for certain interests and temperaments.just do not go too forcefully in for an interaction.
I mean, we men (Most of the times, not all the times.) do harder things than women. And we deserve rewards based on what we do and not based on what another is getting.
No one is fighting for 50/50 in bricklayers or oil rig workers or ditch diggers or coal miners or high-rise iron workers or.... Equal rights has never meant equal rights; it's always meant cherry picking the perceived advantages and discarding the factual maladies.
aye, never seen a female sewer engineer in my life, all blokes
@@BronyumHexofloride Many years ago, I had a job that required you to lift 110 lbs (49kg) over your head, move it around, several times an hour all day for 10-14 hours, in addition to climbing ladders wearing 30-40lbs (13-18kg) constantly. The company I worked for actually hired a few women, not ONE made it... every last one of them quit on their first day. They simply could not do the job. Is that discrimination? Should the company have been forced to hire 50% women, and then extra men to help the women hoist around their gear since they couldn't? It's ridiculous, I'm so sick of the notion of bias and discrimination based on gender, it's just almost non-existent. Nobody really cares that much to spend energy hating and plotting and planning in order to discriminate based on gender.
Yeh they always mention that there are more men in STEM fields but not more women in nursing jobs
In the end it come down to:
1. Do you want the job
2. Can you do the job, based on qualifications
Equal amounts of the sexes in certain fields doesn’t matter as long as they’re getting the best people for the job, and in terms of police and military, the fact that some of the training is easier for women is bullshit, if you can’t handle it, you can’t handle it, it doesn’t matter what you’ve got between your legs, we shouldn’t lower our expectations in the name equality all recruits should be held to the same standard
Like every ism it is all doublespeak. Equality means enslavement.
@@BronyumHexofloride I have she was interviewed on TV
"Most kings are men"
I actually believe that all kings are men...
AeroHydra no there was a mad queen on french. Idk her name.
Well she's not a king then is she? You're probably thinking of Marie Antoinette.
At first I was thinking what a fool, there were several cases of successful women in the monarchy, like in Russia, Englan...
Then I was like, KINGS not queens you dumb fuck
Lol junior.
It's not like women have never been sovereigns. Hell, we've had woman presidents of the USA, not in name but in function. Edith Wilson ran the country after her husbands stroke. Of course nowadays we've gotta elect the first woman president no matter how corrupt, stupid, inexperienced, or flat out looney they may be (I'm looking at you Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris.) Otherwise what are you, some kind of FUCKING SEXIST PIG PRIVILEGED SHITLORD!!!?!?!?
It's not like women have no leadership abilities, they just run things differently and most seem less inclined to wanna do it.
Well, Poland had a female King once en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadwiga_of_Poland
"Males could die at any time of his life"
So... You're basically saying that I could die at any moment while watching this vid-
Snake? Snake? SNAKEEEE!
Game over
@@mitchellbailey6258 Fission Mailed
*Emmit
*Continent
Diabetas
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"I can open jam jars" 10/10 argument
Tall problems are about as bad in magnitude lol
Men also do most of the hard labor and is much more likely to be injured or die working.
Men don’t live as long as women, witch sucks but also means women get all the money(not undeserving necessarily)the husband has saved from his labor.
Some women say there is a wage gap, But don’t take into consideration the type of jobs, hours put in(women often chose a better work/family balance) or how men get ahead often due to their biological competitiveness and need to prove oneself, often to get a women.
Women beat men in achieving college degrees at all levels in the United States.
Although men often are the financial providers, women make the majority of purchases and financial decisions. (Western cultures)
Yeah, so there is that....
Mark Kazmier If you are smart and well off the benefits of being a specific gender are minimal . Men have higher wages as they are more likely get higher up in terms of positions. Women live a bit longer and tend to get to spend more time with the family. If you are in a lower socioeconomic group there are still quite stark differences, low skill manual labour jobs are significantly harder for most women than men, access and knowledge about contraception and abortion is significantly lower in lower socioeconomic groups so they may get stuck having kids earlier that they may want (it is significantly easier for a man to run away from an unwanted child than a woman). And then in the third world I think most can agree that being a woman is horrendous.
Christine Smith You make some very good points. I was just pointing out a few negatives for men that are often overlooked. Women Have a lot of unique difficulties as well.
Don’t disagree. Nice to talk to someone reasonable on the internet.
@@christinesmith3711 What do you mean they have higher chance of promotion?
@@adampetrowski did not say that the have a higher chance of promotion. The are more likely to get higher up on the corporate ladder (on average obviously) there are a variety of reasons for this.
look at the left (his right) shoulder at 6:00 There is a caterpillar taking a ride on the LindyBeige Mobil :D
I saw him at 11:00 lol
Edvared he's called Pete
This is actually kinda terrifying :/. Reminds me of Mind Worms.
Woah good eye
that looks more like an inchworm.
"These females be living at recruit difficulty"-birdman
End of story straight recruit difficulty
lol
We men are veterans
I see you`re a man of culture as well.
Searching that brought me here
I'm tall and the only time it comes in handy is when a light bulb needs replacing and nobody has a ladder.
Also I know when people are turning bald before they do.
In a way, that's a disadvantage, you regularly go out of your way to help others, whereas if you were short you could avoid it without criticism.
You being tall also makes you more attractive to women. They get a sense of security out of it that they wouldn't get if you where the same hight as them or slightly taller.
I bang my head against the door each time i've got to stop off the bus... thank goodness for the pad they put there.
Also i think that if a tall person fall they would do more damage to their head or shoulders due to falling from a higher height.
you can't be a fighter jet pilot. Sucks to be youuuuu.
I'm PERFECTLY average, 1,80m no more, no less ;p
No, you dont know when people are going bald before they do. People just are in denial and pretend they are not bald. the day a man starts balding, deep down, he knows. He sees the spot in the mirror, and starts making excuses for why he may not be balding. I went through that myself.
"Women are genuinely trying to commit suicide, they're just really amazingly incompetent at it."
I lost it there xD
finaly , after years of search i have found a guy on youtube wich is using common sense
Artur Liebl Depends, the term “common sense” can be abused by others to make them conform to their ways of thinking, but some things can indeed be common sense. It is, for example, common sense to not randomly eat berries you find in the woods. It’s also common sense to not invest all of your money in gambling. Common sense definitely exist.
Y all are bothering too much with this.
This madness will soon pass. From the dawn of time men and women have been working together to survive and thrive.
This union is literally why all of us are here in the first place.
Bravo!
Never agreed with anything more!! I don’t know how people can be so surefire that their sex has it harder when they’ve never experienced anything else.
#MeToo contradicts what you've said. Infact it causes women to be hired less cause it male managers and higher ups to see women as a threat cause they can have their life completely dismantled by a false rape claim.
@@JimBimBum i m sure this happens in some lines of work and in specific regions. I m also sure that that's not globally true. I for one, have no problem with either hiring ladies and i never really encountered a situation where i was framed a rapist. Again, i do not discredit your point, i just feel it happens in a much smaller scale than it feels like when you observe the matter in social media and in particular Twitter
Besides, at this point, the me too "movement" is basically a meme
you're just mansplaining, stop your logical well presented arguments!
They had us at the first half, not gonna lie.
Hmmm this must be sarcasm
come into my van but im confused because his arguments ARE logical and well presented
@@erictruong324 who is "him"
o god why'd i have to walk upon this sexist ben shapiro fan.
Woman: I wish I was a man so I wouldn't be so oppressed!
Man who has a a bigger chance to die in general, bigger chance to die at work, bigger chance to be attacked and told by others that he doesn't deserve an opinion: *_intense breathing_*
Man: I wish I was a woma-
Woman: *You don't know how it feels to be an oppressed woman*
I’m not a masculinist, but I’m definitely for equality. And it is not equality until both men’s and women’s issues are adressed. In the last 20 years men’s issues have been ignored. Men are falling apart. I’m so proud to be one but also sad that women now have many advantages in life that are tearing us apart as men to the point of killing ourselves over 3 times as much as women.
@@geezerschrist3447 wdym?
You might as well say the earth is flat
Ok am on the dude side dont suddenly go attacking me
@@geezerschrist3447 ah yes... enslaved equality
10:40 there is a inch worm on your right collar.
+1. Nice catch
I couldn't tell what it was but I was utterly distracted by it
Chuck Noris he's a pinhead not wormretard. On no I've gone mad!
I WAS SEARCHING FOR SOMEONE COMMENTING THIS
Inch worm? I thought they were legally required to have gone metric.
I'm not a woman so I'm not going to discuss their side of the fence as Lindy coined it, I don't think that would be fair. Converserly, I don't think it is fair for women to dictate what men can feel about their issues either. So here is the male side of the fence.
In my experience:
Men feel more pressure to be tough, hard, competant and not to talk about things or show their emotions.
Men aren't allowed to be ill. Tell your female co-workers and they'll be cries of man floo etc. This is one of the reasons why men don't go to the doctors and die more.
Men have a harder time at the dating game.
A lack of 'traditionally male' jobs because of the decline of industry has resulted in a crisis of identidy for a lot of boys and men.
Men get a really hard time when getting custody of their children.
Male rape and domestic abuse is seen as a joke.
Men are way more likely to be homeless, poor, addicts or in jail. They also serve longer sentences for the same crimes.
Men are way more likely to commit suicide or be depressed, and Male post natal depression is seen as a joke.
Men are way more likely to die or be seriously hurt through violence.
Men don't live as long in general.
Boys do worse than girls in school.
Men working with children are viewed with more suspicion - are trusted less.
Now I'm not saying women don't have their issues either, because they do, but these are my experiences.
Bradley Jamieson my experience is that my mom ALMOST got gang raped and she told her dad and the cops but they did nothing so ye
@@Qinglady-ue6wm And that applies to most women how?
@@Qinglady-ue6wm A good friend of mine has been succesfully raped and is afraid to tell her friends about it because she doesn't want them to get locked up for jumping him and beating him to death with shovels.
But what about that caterpillar on your collar at 11:05 ? Is it a he or she ???
it's genderfluid XD
Finally, we're getting to the important questions.
Can't usually (if ever) identify the sex based on the larval stage, but it's likely in the Geometer Moth family.
@@Lojemiru :megathink:
"I can open Jam jars and I got this bass voice, which I prefer" - Lindybeige
I absolutely loved this video, I would love more rants on silly topics like this. It's very entertaining.
We’re all just people being male or female has its own challenges but we’re all just struggling to live as humans on this floating rock
Woman have it easier because of men, but woman alone, would have it difficult because they wouldnt survive long in ancient times
More like specially pulled on rock.
@@nathanb.8114 I'm... pretty sure we both wouldn't survive without each other.... (Whispers to someone "Hey, has no one told them how babies work?")
@@pipercharms7374 haha
If you worked for Google, you'd be fired.
the most aweful crime in the eyes of media now is opinions.
ironically one of the most harmless actions.
Not true, he's currently working for a subsidiary of google.
or buzzfeed
Broggi Bragi Not really, as he is not calling a specific gender inferiour compared to the other.
halorecon95 Neither did the employee who was fired from google.
In south korea, every man have to serve 2 years in military. That is huge disadvantage compared to woman...whats more horrendous thing is, we don't get paid for service since its a comnscription policy
oscuridad de norte , jesus... i feel sorry for you as an Australian
Same but from half a year to a year in Finland.
Most ppl: this should be a simple yes or no
Lindybidge: ah yes not exactly.
Do you really think that most people think there is an easy answer to this question?
@@LateTrender yes....yes i do because the people I've met in my life....yes just yes they would.
@@tacticalgreengecko7369 lol that's sad
@@tacticalgreengecko7369 you meet the wrong people then brah
Except it's pretty much exactly that. He's just given the reasons why it's such a straight forward answer, but the answer is straight forward. Do men have it easier ? No. Why ? Watch video, it's a summary of why. The argument of violence experience is a very strong one.
So we’re just not going to talk about the cute caterpillar on his shoulder?
What timeframe?
Glad I also noticed, it’s at about 8:00. On the left (His Right shoulder) on the black strip.
It's as early as 5:00
This has to be one of the most intelligent people I have ever seen
leonlj2002 He's about what the average should be. You might want to look at your own dumb ass.
Why so rude?
Knights of the Nine he is the peak of human evolution you might not like it but get used to it
Knights of the Nine Not really,
He went to a boarding school
I myself have only watched 2 of his videos, he seems quite smart, he definitely sounds very intelligent... Though I did know most the points he made when I was 15years of age
lol i was just about to say to check out jordan peterson but someone beat me to it
We are watching Lindybeige dooming any chance of working for Google.
In a strange way, I sort of do. Google owns TH-cam.
It does depend on what you mean by "working for". Which could be a video all by itself.
He is talking about the recent incident where a Google employee was fired for criticizing diversity.
Factually criticizing excessive diversity policies, not diversity itself.
Michael Price
Best comment!
“Men are born to fail”, i should print that ant post it in my room, so my mother can stop reminding me the big failure that i am.
Extremely British answer
"You're a man, would you like to be a woman?"
*THICK BRITISH ACCENT*
"terribly droll idea ol boy, I've only JUST mastered beard trimming , God only knows I've had a enough nicked lips to start retraining for a little southern clearing."
"Men are born to fail. It's the point of us." - haha, what a quote!
Its incredible how many people immediately become unreasonable dickheads the second the argument goes online, like in comment sections and forums people tend to act and say shit that they would never say in person. Its kind of embarrassing for them
Girls have it easier when it comes to dating that's for sure.
As a female, I can confirm
@@lalalili6578 I have a friend that has dated like 20 guys
@@AlexCab_49 And as a male I have dated 0
@@strangerdanger7448 same. Though at least i had my first kiss and was "more than friends" with a girl which was the closest to dating i ever got.
Yea definitely. When you're female you have the advantage to choose who you want to date. Most girls I know that don't date don't do it because it's scary and everyone has planted this idea that it will ruin your succsses in life. Or the "men bad" thing that makes no sense. Ofc not every dude is going to get you pregnant and leave you or use you, yea some will, but there's always bad people.
Women are definitely more manipulative and put themselves first much more than men. They are smarter in that case. A smart woman can ruin a man's life maybe the same amount as a man can ruin a woman's life. And this goes unnoticed.
Society is built to credit people like that and people are like that because they are raised to become that way. But again not every woman is manipulative and not every guy is only using you. We have worse problems.
I don't sleep on planes. Not any more. Last time I did I was awoken by everyone else screaming. Most frightening.
Mind you, I was the pilot ...
No one wants to be tall so that theyll be able to pick off stuff from shelves. They want to be tall because women find tall people more attractive and tall people are respected more simply by the virtue of their height.
Can't confirm, I am almost 2 meters tall and it isn't easy getting respect, and the part about women finding me more attractive because of it? No evidence of that at all in my life.
Then you are just unattractive and probably don't do much to govern real respect anyways. It's a harsh reality out there. Also... Almost 2 meters isn't exactly "tall"... That's a pretty average height among men at least it is here in Canada. I know because I'm about the same height 5 foot 11 inches, or 180 cm.
But if you were to put two men with equal position in power and attractiveness next to each other and ask people to choose who they think is the "real leader" or who they'd choose as a partner. Most cases are going to end up choosing the one who is taller. Obviously there are outliers.
Using yourself isn't a good example. How are you going to notice something like that? You aren't going to notice weather or not people are giving you more or less respect because you are tall. Not unless someone tells you directly that's the reason.
You do realize that "almost two meters" means he is like 6'6 or something and.. you know... that's like a whole head taller than you. That's far from being average, especially in Canada. Even here in Germany you see those people not very often.
And btw I can fully agree on the guy's point. Height doesn't matter at all, except if you don't have any other things in your life and you can only brag with your height. However, something like that can be easily outweighed by the shape of your face or your weight, so basically a guy who is 5'3 and is good looking, muscular and confident will get probably in the end of the day by far more girls than the giant, who looks average.
Ah right, sorry you're correct. I was thinking of Yards not Meters. So my bad on that point, not sure how I got that mixed up.
But my point wasn't that height is the only deciding factor. I thought I made that clear. I made the point that 2 people of equal standards with the only difference being height, the guy who is taller generally governs more immediate respect. But he could gain or lose respect just as quick, this is merely a superficial standard based on appearance. Yes there are plenty of other factors like you say. That's why I said, he probably doesn't do much to govern respect in the first place. Height doesn't mean instant respect, height can just increase the respect you already have from other aspects of you, weather it be appearance, line of business, attitude, popularity, personality, etc.
Again, I never said height was the deciding factor off the get go. It's just a "bonus" i guess you might say.
You're right, it's better to be short good looking and confident, than tall and painfully average.
Height is perceived as a good thing, that's why in general women prefer to date men who are taller than them.
You've gained a lot of respect from me for sharing your thoughts on this. I've been saying these things for a while.
As a woman, the only thing I hate about my gender is having painful, intense periods, especially due to the fact that I have PCOS. But, I enjoy being a woman.
Yes, there are some issues in our western society, but I am so grateful I was not born in other countries where even trying to have a say will get you beaten up or killed.
These are the issues I witnessed men having to face:
1. Being told they're pussies for showing emotions, or simply trying to avoid conventional boyish activities.
2. Being told they're pussies for still being virgin at 18.
3. Having to be "the strong" one in a couple, or having to choose a certain career because otherwise they're not "man" enough.
4. Feeling the stress of not being the "providing" head of the family. Calm down, we're in the 21st century, and both women and men should contribute to the family. Numerous cases of suicide I read on newspaper, were because the father couldn't stand the idea of not being a "proper" man because he was unemployed. A woman is not an object, is not a body, a vagina, just like a man is not his money, or his job.
5. Being afraid of flirting with a woman, because some women probably misinterpret normal, proper flirting and think it's harassment and molestation. Yes, I saw a girl at the club who grabbed a guy by his throat simply because he was smiling at her.
6. This is personal because it's only based on my experience seeing my brother and other boys in the neighbourhood but... Definitely superficial and shallow friendships, because they never EVER talk with each other about secrets, insecurities, problems. All they do is playing soccer or videogames together, telling bullshit, jokes. But the moment they need help, they never talk about it, holding it until it becomes too big to be managed, ending up in episodes of extreme anger and frustration towards family and institution.
7. Having to endure a woman's rage and even violence, because "hitting" women is wrong. Hitting a woman is not necessarily domestic violence. Domestic violence is a mix of physical AND mental abuse and manipulation, it's a specific dynamics and it can't be attributed to, let's say, a simply slap or a punch. Of course men are usually stronger, but why should the woman feel entitled to hit a man, and then feel shocked if he slaps her in return? If a woman is annoying you, she is hurting you, you should be able to react. Maybe try not to use your full force like you'd do with a man, but DO something.
8. Most of the time, when a couple gets a divorce, it's always the woman who gets custody of the kids. I witnessed some fucked up scenarios where the woman was not able to care for the kids and the kids WANTED to stay with the dad, yet she won because she was "the mother".
There are other things but I currently only remember these ones.
I’m a guy and I can deal with I’d say most of these problems because as much as they suck I wouldn’t want to deal with periods and child birth due to the pain, mood swings, etc.
But the thing that pisses me off the most is that guys usually can’t bring most of these arguments up without being called a sexist, and being judged by everyone around. We will see it in our daily lives that some women will protest or even just fight for their problems, but when a guy steps in he will get outnumbered and bashed because he doesn’t have a say. Sometimes yes I want to fight with you
Good to know some women have a sense of reality. Number 8 hits me hard... especially I love having my own kids someday. I even treat my youngest sister as a pretend daughter of mine. But number 6 never happened to me that much, I'm pretty lucky to have wonderful friends.
@@CamoFFAArmy I mean, even though you can probably handle most of these, having men that were told to be "pussies" for normal things, have repercussions on their personality, ultimately damaging those around them. It makes them cold and unable to express their feelings properly, or extremely proud. Maybe I just live in a shitty neighbourhood but that's part of my experience: men who can't say sorry, who can't sympathize with others, men who only want to fuck around because they were always told "women are bitches, they will hurt you" and so on. Even if it seems like a small detail, I wish boys were given the opportunity to cry, and be sensitive, and be whatever they wanted to be.
How many times have you seen a father telling his kid "men don't cry"?
It's also part of the reasons why, as the guy said in the video, women are more likely to ATTEMPT suicide, whereas men actually kill themselves. If only they were able to cope with a damaged ego and negative feelings, some of these men could have been helped, but they rarely seek for help because "men don't cry".
@@CamoFFAArmy Anyways, yes, I agree with you when you say that if a man brings up something like this, is called sexist. Or women tend to tell him "shut up, we are the oppressed ones so you can't bring up your issues".
As a feminist, I often have to deal with women that only think about their causes, without considering the fact that, the more they focus on Them only, the more divided we become, instead of uniting and helping each other.
THANK YOU woman overpower men in society they get all the love and care regardless of if they deserve it or not... I thank you for finally exposing society but sadly your comment has gotten lost due to only having 12 likes... key note most people dont like to read unless its interesting... so next time for the sake of argument make it shorter and stronger so they will listen
Anyone else notice the caterpillar on his jacket drawstring?
lmao! As soon as i read your comment, i was all eyes on his clavicular area. Saw the cute thing inching a few seconds later! I love how some things work out like that
but did you notice the vein crawling up his temple
Perhaps your best video so far, given the gravity of the topic.
Greetings from Denmark.
Greetings from Denmark!
I haven't watched the video and I don't know why I'm here.
What, 482 people can't open jam jars?
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What? What? WHAAAAAT?
Is that the dummy from evil by interpol?
Love him or hate him, he spitting straight facts.
But really, who would hate him?
I know of a couple where both the man and woman worked very highly paid jobs. They had bought a second home and their first house had been rented out to help pay the mortgage on the second one. It turned out when the renter left, that they had trashed the house completely, and the couple were unable to rent it after that without huge repairs so were struggling with the mortgage payments on the second house and the repairs on the first house.
At the insistence of her husband, the wife started looking for a higher paid job, in order to help cope with the bills. She went to interviews and got the job offer, but then didn't want to leave the job she was in as she really liked it and it was closer to her children and home - had she taken the new job she wouldn't have been able to drop the kids off at school, or make their dinner, or spend time helping them with their homework etc (something that she'd always done and her husband didn't do). She couldn't decide what to do - take new job and higher money and be able to pay the bills, or stay in the lower paid job and be able to be a mother to her children.
Her husband was pushing her to take the better job as they desperately needed the money or they'd default on the mortgage, so she eventually went to her boss and told him/her about the situation, that she'd have to take the higher paid job (even though she was unhappy about it and loved her job, and didn't want to leave). Her boss said she was indispensable to the company, promoted her to a more senior position, and gave her a substantial raise (more than the other job was offering).
It struck me as I heard this story, that perhaps part of the reason women are often paid less than men is because they don't want to risk losing their jobs by asking for more money (whereas men will often take that risk, and some of them may fail and lose their job entirely). She was doing her job as well as (or better than) any of the men in her workplace and obviously deserved the raise, but she'd never asked for it before this point (and only had this conversation with her boss at all because her husband had pushed her into getting a better paid job).
Also I can see that many women are perhaps more concerned about their family's welfare than their own personal success - as a mother she had to worry about whether her family were fed, taken care of and happy. Her husband didn't have to worry about this (since she did it for him) and worked longer hours further from home because it paid more (even though it meant he didn't spend as much time with his kids and wasn't there to prepare meals, take them to school or help with homework).
It's not that women aren't as good at their jobs - it's that women play it safe and consider family needs before personal success (basically they are less competitive than men).
I disagree with the idea that man focus on their jobs for selfish reasons, I know a lot of man that would prefer to spend more time with family and work less, but between that and letting their mates get the more pleasureble job. They choose make the sacrifice without even thinking about it
@@victoraugusto743 It's not that it's for selfish reasons, I didn't mean to imply that, they are providing money for the family after all. It's more that because women usually do all the home life stuff (childcare, cleaning, cooking) men can afford to focus more on their jobs, put in longer hours, go out socializing with their workmates and bosses after work etc and know that the family will still be taken care of.
Women dont earn money everytime btw, social jobs are just less paid and most women choose social jobs
a much shorter version:
women have the luxury of choosing personal happiness over career.
men are pressured by their wives to choose career over personal happiness.
@@sabin97 Thats not what happened in the story. The female was being pushed to get a better job. And she didn't decide between family and career. If she did, she wouldn't be working. In the story the female talks to her boss about it and he gives her a promotion. That means more work. Meanwhile the husband was pushing her to take the new job. It is obvious that her happiness would of been to spend all her time with family, however, she couldn't do that. Youre comment is the opposite of what happened in the story.
"Women have the luxury of choosing personal happiness of carrer." No, she decided to try to get a better job.
"Men are pressured by their wives to choose carrer over personal happiness." No, the male was never pushed to do anything. Actually, the opposite hapoened. The male pushed the female to choose career.
i work in a school that is pretty traditional but making good strides of progress. we have almost exactly a 50/50 male/female teacher split, and the office jobs are the same. we have 4 principal and vice-principal positions, all of which had been held by the same 4 men for 25 years. they were of course getting on a bit, and a couple years ago the principal and one of the vice principals retired. one of the vice principals naturally got promoted to principal, which left 2 vice principal positions free, and they were filled by 2 senior male teachers. i was close to outraged. we were doing so well and then they pull this? to drum up a bit of support before making anything of it, i talked to some of the senior female teachers about how they felt about it. 4 of them had been offered the jobs, one was offered a second time with more money when the other 3 turned it down, and she turned it down again, all 4 giving a mixture of not wanting more hours and more responsibility, and preferred being more close to a few students than only a little contact with all of them. it was only after that the positions were then offered to male teachers.
i was then almost counter-outraged. why should any women or any men be offered more money just because the sex they happen to be differs from the sex of other people in the company? i now firmly believe in accepting people's choices, and making all offers fair and balanced. we shouldn't deny people who want a job and coax others who don't want it just to make more pleasing statistics.
satoau1 I have lost faith in humanity
+satoau1
Beautiful story. Had you not actually looked into the situation by talking to the women involved, you'd really be getting the wrong side of the story. Regardless of the context and theme, it's an important lesson to learn that getting both sides is very important.
I guess she was offered more money, because whoever did the hiring saw the benefit of balancing out the genders. I hope they'd consider the same if the situation was the opposite :)
yes, and we try to balance genders to make things fair to both, but then if we're offering more money to one gender that is unfair and we're doing the exact thing we're trying to avoid. if genders have the same employment opportunity that is fair, regardless of who decides to take the opportunity offered.
Yes, god forbid we base jobs on merit and instead go with the extremely sexist approach and make a position based entirely if they are the right sex for the job. We need to get that 50/50 balanced because that really makes for a quality workforce.
There were some statistics I stumbled uopn a while ago. Ut says that 'average' looking women actually have an easier time getting a man than the extremely attractive ones.
The reasoning would be that men are feel like she is almost certainly with another man so it isn't worth spending energy on her, so they go for less attractive women
Isak s Actually, I would say the reason is because men are more likely to want sex (biology!) They’re more likely to settle whereas a woman might go for a more attractive man. I wouldn’t say that’s a downside to being male because the man is getting what he wants (more sex). It can however be seen as a downside to women who don’t care as much for the sex. They are getting less meaningful relationships than they want.
I am not surprised by this. I have seen men going for less attractive women my whole life. I’m one of them, but trying to change that.
Statistics prove woman go for the top 20% man and man go for top 80% of women
@@conradsmith9441 the thing with how the brain is programmed is that a male brain is programmed to spread their genes to as many people as possible to make a lot of offspring. whilst women are programmed to try and get the best male to carry their offspring. there is viritually no limit on how many offspring a man can have but the amount is greatly limited for a woman.
this means that women are programmed to aim way above their league whilst men are generally going for one that can make babies and are healthy.
@@adampetrowski this is true. it comes from how many offspring one can have.
a man can have viritually no limit of offspring with many partners whilst women have to find a good one cause they have to carry and nurture that baby for years to come. so the women are going for the good genes and the successful ones just so they can give their kids security when growing up.
the thoughts aren't the same nowerdays but the effect is still just as prevelent today as it were thousands of years ago
This is the very first Lindybiege video I ever saw, which happened to show up in my recommended a while ago, maybe over a year by now. I'm glad I found him, there is something very enjoyable about watching a knowledgable, charismatic Brit ranting on about things he is passionate over.
Feminist: Don't panic Karen. Just imagine him rambling to himself
*This video*
Feminist: oh no, he's smart
People really hate feminists no? Those aren't even feminists. They just call themselves that.
@@josuelugosarchive1864 They are third wave feminists. By definition they are feminists
@@ΚωνσταντινοςΑλιραι I thought they'd call blabbering sea cows that learned to walk and barely learned what English was.
They love to yell facist but want to restrict speech so either they don't understand what it means or they're projecting.
@@JimBimBum oh shit. Didn't realise we had an expert among us
Maybe the proper term for them are Feminazis
I love the green Caterpillar, eagerly listening to what you have to say. I guess she wants to be come a beautiful Butterfly one day.
This is some of the most insightful and level-headed observation on this subject I've heard from anyone. How can anyone disagree with these ideas?
I like your voice, too, I find it soothing and soothing voices are nice to listen to (coincidentally, you choose to make TH-cam videos where you do a lot of talking).
But it depends on your culture. In Chinese culture (specifically traditional ones), males are everything. Mothers are shamed on for giving birth to girls
In Saudi Arabia women aren't even allowed to leave the house without a male guardian
@@nostalgicrobot that's even sad. I heard they weren't allowed to drive cars back then
@@nostalgicrobot I'm kinda curious as to how they choose their partners. Is it some kind of lucky pick? Or based on personality stuff?
@@nomotivay I'm pretty sure they have arranged marriages.
@@nostalgicrobot it makes sense you would want a guardian to protect her and decrease her already low chances of being attacked, and also driving cars is literally responsible for most premature deaths in modern societies, gotta keep those precious valued citizens alive
As per usual, he manages to stay neutral on a topic while the comment section turns to an absolute shit-show.
Like TH-cam, like Life, people are rude.
I can't help but wonder how many of these people have watched it and only taken in what they wanted to hear. They talk as if Lindy was saying being a man is harder, which he in no way said.
Honestly, I disagree. This comment section is relatively tame and contains a number of reasoned and rational arguments, as is typical of a Lindy video, I find.
You evidently haven't braved any videos covering American politics recently. Now THAT is a shit-show! ;P
@TheOneLichemperor: Don't even get me started on that shit.. Have to deal with that sort of comments on a daily basis from people since I'm a landscaper.
@Abysswalk: And he is 100% correct in that aspect, it is impossible to know what it is exactly to be any other gender then your own as someone born that way was. Nor can one that isn't gay know exactly what it is to be them and vis-versa. Their should be accommodation or at least debate if one side expresses concern about treatment just for something that they have zero control over though whether it be men, women, or anything in-between. That requires the opposite gender to at least try and understand where they are coming from which is something that a good amount of people just sadly seem to lack.
All I'm saying is that I cant make a living by playing videogames whilst wearing a very low-cut top...
Also, when I was of child bearing age, I was profoundly beautiful, and Lindy is right. Free stuff every where. Everyone jumping to help. I DID think that's just the way the world works. ...
Not all kings were men. For example king Jadwiga of Poland, she was crowned as KING not queen.
Michał Saloni that’s interesting to know
This. This right here. The only reasonable person I've ever seen that actually acknowledges the cons of the opposite sex without yelling and overly supporting his own gender.
And personally, I've thought about similar stuff many times, and seeing this video makes me feel quite proud of myself.
It's my first time seeing this channel, but I'm definitely subscribing, you're the best.
Oh my brain! This is the most reasonable thing I've heard on this subject! I can't know what your side of the fence is like, you can't know what my side is like. Can't we all just get along? I now absolutely love you Lindybeige.
Wow, this randomly showed up in my recommended and it's the first video on this topic I've seen that brings reasonable arguements for both sides. Subscribed.
Goddammit Lindybeige you are so goddamn charming.
You want to know what it's like to be either gender?
Just look at Twitch.
@@CARILYNF I already watch him regularly :P
@@dudejo A man of culture, I see
Gamer Girls get all the views.
@@BK-xg3mw more like a "fucking" twitch website
How to sleep during any flight:
1. Don't sleep the night before the flight. Picture yourselves falling to your death while kerosin burns your skin away, that might help.
2. Get some...herbs into your system.
3. Driving will be difficult at this stage so get someone to get you to the airport.
4. Don't try to smuggle anything, you will be picked out be security 100% of the times you try this.
5. Don't fall asleep at the airport.
6. Good flight :)
Ahah right, if you can't get to sleep, you just aren't tired enough.
This is the useful comment in this comments section
The word easier can confuse people. Saying that we don't have it easier doesn't mean it's harder or that being a women is easier. It means that it has it's fair share of challenges, but it can't be just left at that of course.
"Shot while on a walk on a sunny day through woods in Switzerland"- Good god man, are you okay, are you still alive?!
Lmfao
Eloquent augments, balanced too.
Eloquent comment, balanced too.
Dandvadan Eloquent comment to Tom, balanced too.
Chip Mönk Eloquent thread, balanced too.
6:34 cheerful caterpiller on his shoulder LMAO😂😂
While I had some small criticisms, generally your nuance was refreshing. Love your channel Lindy!
Depends on the specific situation. But in the west, women have it much easier, on average.
Excellent more conversations like this, simply describing reality
I'm sitting here watching lindys beard talk about men v.s. women...
Shout-out to the caterpillar on his right shoulder at 7:00
mhh you are happy with what you got...
Bless you Lioyd!
Bless you!
Why would you say something so controversial, yet something so brave
11:19 Is that a worm on his jacket?
I think it's a teeny caterpillar.
Jimis Man its Pete
It's a feminist worm attempting to kill Lindy to shut him up.
Dude that worm just hoped on his shoulder at 6:00 and has been on there until lindy showed you the nature clips
Lol its an inch-worm!
(or maybe a centimeter worm since hes in Switzerland ;) )
First video I see of you. It's a real pleasure to listen someone about this subject that is humble. You are trying to speak the truth, and use logic over subjective emotions.
4 words.
Testicular blunt force trama.
Case closed
It hurts women even more but it is considered so obscene that people don't even joke about it.
As someone with both tits and balls, I'd rather get hit in the balls.
2 words: child birth
Here's another two words : Fuck off.
1 word: Modern day anesthetic. Shit, that's three words. And those were four words. And those were five words.
Ah well. Point stands.
2 words: Kidney stone
Even worse...
Two other examples I hear a lot are "but men control the government", but in most western democracies I know of, the majority of the electorate are women, so they are the ones controlling the government--they're just bad at organizing and picking female candidates.
I also hear "but women have to give birth", to that I say 'you GET to give birth'. It's an ability women can choose to use that I can't, that's a strength.
Finally, you hear women talk about wage or rape statistics. But from what I've learned about these statistics, they are often either flawed in the data collection phase or are used in arguments out of context. At the very least they are used correctly but are not paired with statistics like male suicide and prison sentences.
People are people. I am a man, but I'm not "men". My experience is my life. There's no such thing as "men's" or "women's" life, we are more than just our gender so when we analyze why our life sucks we can't know if it's because of just that one factor, gender.
I wasn't implying that a guy is forced to have a kid if he has sex, though I do think it is relevant to note that women have more control in the choice to abort in many countries. That might be fair but it's not equal (and that can be okay, equality isn't always possible)
But what I meant was, if a woman wants to have a biological child, she can go to a sperm bank and just get pregnant; a guy can;t do that. Both genders can adopt so that's equivalent. It's true that a woman "has to go through pregnancy" if she wants biological children, but I still see that as a strength because she has a choice to go through pregnancy herself or adopt, whereas a guy can't choose to have a biological child.
Also, of the mothers I know, the majority did not see their pregnancy as a detriment, so I don't know if the general female perception is that pregnancy sucks. When I talk to women who aren't mothers, they often express fear or discomfort with the idea of being pregnant, but I haven't met a pregnant woman who felt that way.
In a republic, the electorate votes for representatives. Those representatives can vote however they wish, it is the role of the electorate to hold their representatives accountable. If a representative is not voting in their constituents best interests, then they can be replaced. So the mostly female electorate still has more power than the minority male electorate when only analyzing gender.
The issue of corrupt politicians impacts genders equally because corruption doesn't fight for men, it fights for those individuals in power. So even in the case where all are ruled by a corrupt king or dictator, the gender of the dictator doesn't means that those that share his/her gender are any better off.
I will grant that when there are a more equal number of women in decision making, the decisions do tend to better include women's issues (which makes sense because there's stronger advocacy). So I think that there ought to be women in the decision making process, but the foundation of democracy is that the *people* choose the leadership. Even if better decisions would come from a mix, it's the job of the electorate to put the better decision makers in power.
You can then talk about how not as many women want to be politicians and maybe that's nature or maybe that's nurture. But at that point in the argument, we would be using so much conjecture so far from the key debate (do women have equal political power to men) that I don't think that line of reasoning could result in anything other than a difference of opinion due to mutual ignorance of the facts.
Yeah men don't control the government in in modern democracies everyone does. Further, there are more female voters than male voters. Women live longer and there's slightly more women born then men born. So if anything, women have the voting advantage.
It is definitely a case that rich people have a lot more control over government than men or women. Biological gender doesn't really account for much when half of the entire world population fits into one group. There is dozens, perhaps hundreds of factors to determine if you have an easier or harder life, and gender does effect it but it is still only one piece.
Suddenly waking up the opposite gender isn't going to make you rich or more beautiful, or have better parents, or live in a different country.
Grimm I liked your final paragraph. I agree with what you said in that paragraph.
When I was a young male, addicted to heroin... very few people cared. We definitely are born to fail. But as you said, we need to get along and not point so many fingers. Love more hate less.
Love how much empathy this guy shows. But it pairs quite well with his apparently sufficient logical skills. Might just have to subscribe