Using Heater Shield in War time with Spear
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- Coach Nate shows an advantageous grip on the heater shield during war time. Using a shield and a spear was vital in infantry strategy and tactics. Nate explores a certain method on how to hold the spear and heater shield in becoming dangerous.
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There is so little content about heather shield use, and even less about heather shield and spear. Thank you!
I don’t know if Heather would let me use her as a shield though...
@@jasonsmith9968 Better to ask forgiveness than permission 🙏
Love the spear grip with the shield. Is it just a speculation from your experience or you also have some source you got inspired by? :D
reenactors have been using the spear/shield combination for a long time as depicted here. But this is a good study nonetheless.
At first glance I thought you had rollerblades on.. haha !
Good video. I plan to try this 😁
Lol. The better to joust with, I suppose.
@@BladeFitAcademy Oh my goodness I've got a great idea now thank you
@@heath_00000 Oh no
I've seen some theories about a guige strap making that holding out less fatiguing on the shoulder and arm, maybe because the back is taking some of the weight because the strap braces it. And a cool thing I saw where the shield could be quickly thrown onto the back to hold a sword with two hands. Lemme see if I can find those...
Here it is: www.degueulesetdargent.fr/2017/03/02/shield-straps-and-holding-of-the-shield-in-the-early-13th-century/
Here's a link to the video: th-cam.com/video/kyz36L6rCl8/w-d-xo.html
Great video. You've got me very interested in the heater shield. I practice a lot of sword and buckler, mostly Liegniczer and bolognese concepts. Would you be willing to sell a heater with that configuration? How much would that cost and how would I go about ordering one from you?
I do make heater shields. Are you on FB messenger? I'd like to discuss on there if that's ok.
@@BladeFitAcademy that's fine I found you in there and sent a message.
This was very good - well presented. Plus timely. I am in the process of assembling a short spear (6 feet; 2 meters) for hallway defence in a non gun area. I was wondering how to go about incorporating a shield and this is so helpful. Now all I have to do is make it bulletproof and light weight. Oh, yes ... they get to have guns ...
Hypothetically, I wouldn't use a spear in a hallway. Not unless you have multiple people on your side with them. If I did have a spear, I'd also have a backup short sword.
@@BladeFitAcademy Definitely want to have a sword. Thnaks for the reply.
Using a spear in 2 hands with a strapped shield was done by the Macedonian empire for a while
You mean the Romani/Byzantine?
Hi, thanx for your thoughts. I copied the same shields straps and would like to add one thing I found on mine. When you hold the forward strap I can grab one of the main straps with your thumb. This give me the same control as if I were to hold the two main straps. If in clear I can link a short clip.
I'd love to see this example.
Here is that example. Hope it helps with your exploration of the straps. th-cam.com/video/GRAgH8rzJPk/w-d-xo.html
@@BladeFitAcademy sorry only I was unsure of how to reply directly. th-cam.com/video/GRAgH8rzJPk/w-d-xo.html. Here's the link again. Hope it adds to your experimentation with this strap setup.
@@benlategan3000 fantastic!
Nice
Great vid man! How did you make your shield? Is made from wood?
Yes. Two 1/4 inch birch plywood wood glued and bent. Here is a video where I make a large buckler with the same materials I use for a heater shield. th-cam.com/video/ciPWRMSVF_w/w-d-xo.html
the spear shield and sword combo was used by various cultures all around the world 4 thousands of years.
the neighbours looking around like the fuck
well i gotta change my straps on shield.. :D those looks very useful.
i'd love to see the image of the 1350 shield you used.
I followed the pattern from a particular shield from the work of Dimicator. You can see a few different examples by starting here. m.facebook.com/266934476773420/photos/a.326095754190625.1073741858.266934476773420/668837359916461/?type=3&theater
I eeally like your intro
you could also use a shortspear (1.20 to 1.50 meters) with a thiner shaft (lighter and doesn't need to be that resilient because you would be using your shield to block, not your spear)... why don't I see that in the videos?
Usually harder to beat a sword user if you don't have a formation. You lose alot of manuverability with only a single hand. Not impossible to do though with practise.
were cutting pole arms also used with heater shields?
Not really. Cutting pole arms requires generating power by crossing the body and activating the hips. Add dexterity considerations and there's no room for shields. With spears you don't need a rotational axis to generate power, just stepping hard and following through is enough to pin an unarmored man to a tree.
Does this shield hand-strapping work with a guige?
Did you have to do your own straps or can you find sheilds pre-made with that configuration.
I made my own. Thrift stores have inexpensive genuine leather belts to be repurposed. That's how I started. Now I just buy leather at wholesale for projects that I do.
The romans carried those big heavy scutum shields on their left hands without arm straps.
Do you have a template or something for the shild
That is a great question. I have tooling set to make them. But not a singular template. Let me see if I can make a single template and share as a PDF.
Could this be done with a kite shield?
I think it depends on how the kite shield was strapped. We have many examples of different configurations. But I suspect the vast majority of kite shields wouldn't allow for spear to be in two hands. As primarily a cavalry shield, the kite shield wouldn't usually have focused on that sort of thing. This is conjecture on my part.
Hey man, what's the name of the sport you practise?
I train for HEMA and Modern Sword Fighting tournaments. Honestly though, the more time in I have the less important the labels we use. I've done a smidge of Buhurt and have practiced SCA rules as well. Every expression is another simulation that has a valid focus on a piece of the whole.
Pell: how make?
These are really easy to make. Here is a link to another video explaining how it's done. th-cam.com/video/5shoBiwDxrI/w-d-xo.html
Nifty 🦊