Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee | Based on a True Story
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- Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee is trying to do a lot of things. It is a powerful interpretation of the American Indian assimilation policy, but it has its problems. This was a difficult movie to review, because I’m a Western historian, and I know just how sensitive a topic this is. The book it's based on, authored by Dee Brown, was instrumental in destroying the orthodox view of Western history.
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I made that documentary about the death of the Western genre: • When the Western Genre...
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references:
On the use of the term American Indian, see The Chicago Manual of Style, 8.37. -CMS is the standard for the historical field.
Alan Axelrod, America’s Wars (New York: Wiley and Sons, 2002), 241-245, 304-09, 320-24, 332-34. amzn.to/2NHcLOa
Dee Brown, Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee: An Indian History of the American West (New York: Henry Holt and Company, 1970). amzn.to/2vJHe6B
Donald Fixico, “Federal and State Policies and American Indians,” A Companion to American Indian History, Philip J. Deloria and Neal Salisbury eds. (Malden, Mass.: Blackwell Publishing, 2002), 379-396. amzn.to/2D4wTra
K. Tsianina Lomawaima, “American Indian Education: By Indians versus for Indians,” A Companion to American Indian History, Philip J. Deloria and Neal Salisbury eds. (Malden, Mass.: Blackwell Publishing, 2002), 422-440. amzn.to/2D4wTra
Walter L. Williams, “The United States Indian Policy and the Debate over Philippine Annexation: Implications for the Origins of American Imperialism,” Journal of American History 66, no. 4 (March 1980): 810-831.
Elliot West, The Contested Plains: Indians, Goldseekers, and the Rush to Colorado (Lawrence: University Press of Kansas, 1988). amzn.to/2RRfV32
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Wiki: Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee: An Indian History of the American West is a 1970 book by American writer Dee Brown that covers the history of Native Americans in the American West in the late nineteenth century. The book expresses details of the history of American expansionism from a point of view that is critical of its effects on the Native Americans. Brown describes Native Americans' displacement through forced relocations and years of warfare waged by the United States federal government. The government's dealings are portrayed as a continuing effort to destroy the culture, religion, and way of life of Native American peoples.[1] Helen Hunt Jackson's A Century of Dishonor is often considered a nineteenth-century precursor to Dee Brown's writing.[2]
Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee is a 2007 historical drama television film adapted from the book of the same name by Dee Brown. The film was written by Daniel Giat, directed by Yves Simoneau and produced by HBO Films. The book on which the movie is based is a history of Native Americans in the American West in the 1860s and 1870s, focusing upon the transition from traditional ways of living to living on reservations and their treatment during that period. The title of the film and the book is taken from a line in the Stephen Vincent Benet poem "American Names." It was shot in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
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17:15 - I finally made a documentary on how historians killed the Western genre: th-cam.com/video/x6zD1sjnClM/w-d-xo.html
25:25 - John Two-Hawks plays flute in the soundtrack, and he is also Sioux (thanks to Sedimaster for pointing that out), unfortunately it is uncredited
30:15 - I have my Jeep back. They stole a bunch of stuff, but the damages have been repaired. I'm working on soundproofing the room, BTW
I'm sorry that happened to you, man, but I'm glad you got the jeep back. I'm fond of your work and therefore will contribute to it. Take care, amigo.
Hoping things get better for you man! Right now I'm broke, but as soon as I get my check from Uncle Sam I'll send some money.
Very glad you got the Jeep back! And like a few others I'd like to see a 'Death of the Western' video too! Also...if you do a video like that get some ACTUAL translations of what some of the American Indian extras were REALLY saying on camera. That shit is hilarious!
I was always under the impression that US soldiers killed where hit by friendly cross fire
First, glad to hear that you got your jeep back. Second, please do a video on what killed the western. I'm sure it'll be interesting to folks in general.
Most of history is very messy. Had a history teacher say ‘If you always have white & black hats on your historical characters, you belong in Hollywood or Washington., but its not history.’
Yeah. I say 'life is not a Disney movie'.
Vince White what about Stalin he kinda just did his thing
Videokidmaker what about him? Plus, doesn’t change my comment. History is messing. A good question is, why did Britain & France declare war on Hitler , not on Soviets. What about Lennin, he did his thing, what about Julius Cesar he did his thing. Group preference are always around. The point is history is a narrative of facts & outcomes & different groups will have different approaches, & reasons, and you need to become aware of all sides. It doesn’t mean you agree with an action but you don’t white wash it, and w should learn and know history for its story, not to make over simplified cheering sections. In my opinion, trying to live a life of constant re enacting a disappeared way of life is self defeating. Re enacting to keep history of education alive if ok, but same as medieval festivals in Europe, can be educational & time for learning about past & have a good time, but you can’t stay there either. Time only goes in one direction no matter what hollywood tries to say.
What a wise history teacher you have there ;)
These are my people, I’m Cheyenne River/Oglala Lakota, and I had relatives who died at Wounded Knee, and I also had a g-g-grandfather who was a scout on the US side and was an observer of the massacre at Wounded Knee. He didn’t take part in the fighting, but he gives a very detailed account of the events, which was corroborated by people on the Lakota side and the US side. He ended up marrying a Lakota winyan, (woman) of the Oglala, who was my g-g-grandmother, they lived on Pine Ridge for awhile, then later owned a large ranch.
He knew and was friends with Wild Bill Hickok. He tells a story of a time when he was drinking in a bar in Cheyenne, WY with Wild Bill, it was a favorite stories. He was a scout for General Crook, and was present during a skirmish with Tashunka Witco (Crazy Horse). He later became a postmaster and a deputy sheriff. He led a very colorful life.
In a nut shell, you show why real history is very complicated. Who was bad or who was good in your own family? I don't think you can label any as good or bad, they are all just people acting on what they thought was good or bad according to their own thoughts or beliefs. Much like everyone does today or in the distant past.
This is very interesting & I appreciate you sharing a slice of your people's history :) Is there anywhere we can read about your great-granddad, a book or interview?
Thank you...write the book ...please record his history,your history,and in turn the nations history...fact over fiction...
My wife taught at a school on Cheyenne River Reservation Called Takini. It is Lakota for “Survivor”. It is said that this is where the Survivors from Wounded Knee escaped to.
Trump had huge stock holdings in the pipelines.
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@@marthahuls8385Trunp also making money of wireless 5G phoneline using tax payer funds...
god damnit, dyslexia. I read it as "Bury my heart and my wooden knee." by this point I just think my brain hates me
Fanatic Potato made me chuckle you darn potato
@@MrChopstsicks :D My brain chooses my pain and my pain gives joy to others. Im glad you found it funny
"Skraelings!"
A name I've not heard in a long time, a long time.
Before the dark times...Before the Empire...State Building.
@@calebleland8390 Boo!
@@NormanMStewart hey, they can't all be gold. 😉
@@calebleland8390 Well, duh.
And it means,...weakling. Not very nice.
Read the book when the pipeline debacle was occuring near Standing Rock. Wasn't lost on me that Standing Rock was mentioned in the book 3 times over several generations. Somethings never change.
Having been born and raised in the area that was once Sioux reservation on the border of the Dakota's, I am quite familiar with the history. Our farm was once the location of a large encampment although we have no idea when, but my father had a huge collection of stone tools, arrow heads, war axe heads and hammers as well as flint knives and petrified bones, perhaps they were from prehistoric animals and not the Bison bones he thought when he found them. I was working on a local police department in 1973 during that uprising, just a few miles from our town a police officer was ambushed at a staged accident, when he walked down to the overturned car in the ditch, he was shot in the shoulder and hip, the shooters, all Indians fled the scene and joined up with the protesters at Pine Ridge. I was with the National Guard, we were at our summer camp, however it was being held at the local Armory, since I was a police officer, I was released from Army duty to take my place on the PD as we were short handed and there was heavy traffic on the highway through town, the only highway leading from Montana and Wyoming to the Pine Ridge area. I recall in my youth, there was a dispute over Sitting Bull's bones, they were stolen from one reservation and taken to another where they were buried then stolen again by the other, then again by the SD faction who buried him and poured a cement truck filled with concrete over his grave to preserve the bones so the thing was settled and so was Sitting Bull, now I believe his bones are just outside Mobridge South Dakota if memory serves. We now live 14 miles from where the bear attacked that fellow Hugh Glass back in the early days of our nation, and you can still see where the 7th Cav carved their logo in a cliff near a local lake made on the confluence of the North and South Grand River, flooded in the late 50's as a conservation program. Great place to camp and fish. We were required to read Boots and Saddles by Libby Custer in the 7th grade at the country school I attended north of town, a nice look at life in the 1870's on the plains of the Dakota Territory. My mom, now 94 told us tales of the Indians stopping at their farm in the 30's and demanding food (She still does not care for Indians but gets along with those in the nursing home), their farm was on deeded Reservation land, and the Indians were plenty-full, just south of our farm was the burial place of Chief Thunder Hawk, a friend of Sitting Bull, and war chief at the Little Big Horn. There is a small town still there although it is getting smaller every day, no businesses there any more but still some residents, that was our post office on the farm in the 1950's. I worked on a PD just north of Pine Ridge South Dakota back in the late 1970's and experienced the way the Indians back then lived, they would travel the highway between the Pine Ridge reservation and the Cheyenne River Reservations which went through our town. The men of the town were all Cowboys at heart, many still carried their colt's on their hips when they came in off the range in their 4WD Pickups. A few years ago, my wonderful wife of 51 years and 4 days (RIP) and I traveled to Montana and visited the Little Big Horn Battlefield, it was quite a shock to see all the land that it took place on, the grave stones placed where the troopers fell, and a large memorial over the mass grave gathered up by the company sent out to clean up the battlefield following the battle, one huge hole for the men, another for the horses. I hate the way the new revisionist historians are now teaching the Indian wars but I guess there is nothing I can do at my age, I thank God that I shall once again join my wonderful wife on that green-hill south of town soon, 70 years is long enough to suffer this world.
History is simpler when only the winners are allowed voices. Your sorrow and resentment sounds as painful as that suffered for the Lost Cause of the Confederacy.✌🖖
Could be worse.
You could be in Gaza.
Cheer up.
@@margaretwordnerd5210
You would like one of those self hating White who only bleats for the plight of brown people, no matter how ridiculous they are.
There have been faults on both sides,you have seen alot,been through alot...good and bad men are across all cultures lines...
I am friends with one of the main contributers of the music for the movie. He is Lakota
Thanks. Could you name him, so that I can add that to my pinned comment
John Two-Hawks he has a whole slew of albums using his flutes
@@sedimaster Thanks, I'll add that to the errata
@sedimaster Could you by any chance know the song that One bull sings, when he leaves Sitting bulls camp? It's the scene where he calls Sitting bull a great leader of the Lakota and that there is no greater and tells his father to keep him in his prayers. I fell in love with that scene, when I first saw it.
Why do "We the People" allow any of our history to be revised? Only the truth can set us free... Even when it is Ugly. Thanks for the knowledge.
Also, do it. The "why Westerns were killed" episode, I mean. :)
It would be great if he could collaborate with a fellow TH-camr who is well educated in media studies and specifically Film History, like Lindsay Ellis.
@@mlovecraftr Lindsey crossover on some historical film would be fun.
PLEASE make the "why the western genre was killed by historians" episode
I actually discovered your channel through Jabzy. Circle of Life?
TH-cam hates monetizing education that makes a single person uncomfortable. Especially since its complex. pretty much everything I make gets demonotized.
"this speaks to how sensitive of a subject it remains"
I grew up reading bury my heart at wounded knee so that story and those like it have been my canon all along. It reads much like the story of Australia, New Zealand, Canada and what little I've read of South America.
From what I've read in 1975 there was pretty much a civil war going on on Pine Ridge between the AIM & Traditional Lakota verse the The then current chief and the Federal Government. It became violent with and eventually Federal Agents were shot dead. Great books to read such as in the Spirit of Crazy Horse.
Assimilation didn't work out so well for the "Civilized Tribes". Really made a mockery of the idea i.e. developing your land into a prosperous farm just so it can be seized for someone else's use.
In Canada, we generally use the words "First Nations" unless referring to a specific nation or the Metis, where then you use that name. Not criticizing your way, just offering an alternative that FN people have asked for. At least they've asked for it here
I thought we called them Aborigines/Aboriginals in Canada
Herdan It’s interesting how words can mean such different things in a different context.
Ive seen many American Indians who are tired of the name changing, just pick a fucking name
They call themselves Indians here so American Indians is therefore what I use.
Idk man. Could be problematic. The concept of nations and states are western ideas.
I'm taking a class on the History of North American Indians, and like you said, it just shows the complexity of this entire branch of history and the many perspectives in this area of history. What our professor says is actually really thought provoking: To the Indians, industrialized America and Europe were the New World, and the American Indians were in the Old World. This video reinforces how complex, yet important, this topic is. Sorry about the jeep, don't go crazy over these videos, and good job on this one!
I really enjoy this channel. This is the only channel I have actually done patreon for. Keep up the good work.
Please make that episode. Sounds super interesting.
You do a FAR greater service to YT and its users than YT itself. We'll keep supporting your efforts!!! YT, leave Cipher ALONE!!!
Yup. We need that video on the death of the western.
Also, sorry about your troubles, man.
I would argue the western, as a movie genre is NOT dead - the Coen Bros. alone have had 2 great ones within the last decade (the True Grit remake & Buster Scruggs). Perhaps only the John-Wayne-et-al-Depiction of "American Indians" (or First Nations or Aboriginals) in the western has died. Although Adam Sandler's hopelessly bad Ridiculous 6 did it's best to destroy the entire movie industry and take down westerns along with it! :^P
I've been considering being a patron for a while because you are by far the best Historian on TH-cam. Can't wait for dat early access!
Major props on another superb effort here, Cypher. You consistently tackle the toughest, most potentially divisive subject matter, and do so in an even-handed way with intellectual Integrity. It's very disappointing to hear about the issues you're having with TH-cam demonetizing your content, and I hope that they come to their senses soon. For those of us who are already loyal Patrons, is there anything else we can do to aid you in your dispute with TH-cam? (I dunno, petitions, letter writing, phone calls, etc?) Whatever happens, just know there are a lot of people that have your back, and hope you're able to keep making your unique brand of insightful and thought-provoking videos for a long time.
Thanks. Somehow this one hasn't been demonetized yet. But I can't get over the Veterans History thing, dunno what else can be done on that one
Just go Patreon
Is Amerindian used interchangeably with American Indian? Just wondering
Yeah, but Amerindian is only written, not spoken
While I cannot always agree with you on details, I very much enjoy your work in general, and your entertaining, but still professional approach in particular.
I was raised on the res as a young boy , in the early 60s I stayed over night with a class mat , I met his grandfather and grandmother, they remember wounded knee as small children, they was really grand people
CreatorsForChange? As in "You create, we pay you pocket change"?
Damn dude stayed till the end and say your struggles, I wish the best of luck for you brah, I don’t have much but I’ll start liking at the end of the video. Just for you bo 😘
I read the book Bury my heart at wounded knee in the summer of 1970 after HS graduation before college. it burst my 1950's cowboys vs indian tv opinions
it was the first time I felt ashamed of my country, but sadly not the last
A very sincere thanks for the information about the correct terminology.
Sorry about the TH-cam issues, keep making great videos!
there are plenty of natives that use native American and Indian interchangably
Minor point but I'm happy you didnt call Custer a general. That annoys me everytime and people do it all the time.
Being half Indian and half irish growing up my parents would argue who's people had been done worse. My mother always won with sentence " did they tell you do like us or we'll kill you" no they just threatened to send y'all back home.
Wtf are you talking about? Also why are your parents making peoples suffering into a competition?
@@benc6252 I suspect the story was made up.
Yes, I'd like to see that idea.
Would be rly interested to see your take on “The Heartbeat of Wounded Knee,” a reply to / progression from the “Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee” book which emphasizes not how American Indian life was systematically destroyed, but how American Indians innovated survival strategies in the wake of such cataclysm and survived in the both pre and post Wounded Knee colonial order
Haven't read it yet, but it's on my shelf
Jabzy is a great TH-camr. Been following him for many years and been drawn into of his videos.
Hey you got my vote, I did learn something. And I owe that to your effort. Thank you.
i would love to see that video. I loved the western genre and it would be great if a youtuber could bring light to a subject that is hardly discussed
There's a pretty good video essay by the MOMA called "Did the Western Genre Die?" Which is a good video beginning, but Richard Slotkin's 1992 book is the best coverage thus far
@@CynicalHistorian oh really i will have to check it out
Yes, please make a 'why the western genre was killed by historians' episode.
I don't find Dee Brown's language grating. It is entirely justified.
I thought Dee Brown was quite restrained. Eurocentric, Abrahamo-supremacist history (ie present day history) has always treated cultural genocide with a severe lack of sensitivity since they've never been on the receiving end of it.
@@angryowl5972Says the one willing to airbrush past the genocide perpetrated their own side. Stop acting blameless, there is plenty to go around. Genocide was happening on a mass scale in nort, central and south America before the Europeans arrived.
My Grandmother was born on a reservation in Oklahoma and she felt this way.
Didn't know it took guts to do an oil company's bidding and go against the people.
The pipeline will be remembered as Stupid Hitler Trump's Autobahn.
Having read Dee Brown's book I can definitely agree with you that it's a very one sided take on events. That being said it kind of made it a lot more entertaining of a read. Something I often find with older works of history in general is that they often have these polemical tirades in which the author really let's their opinion be known. Whilst I understand why historians shouldn't do that it definitely is a style I can't help but enjoy reading.
I am close to buying the book but i have a question, how is it one sided? Its an honest question that may sway me from purchasing the book. Thank You in advance
@@shannonhondo260 I read the book thirty years, and I remember it being extremely one sided in favor of select First Nation peoples.
Sorry, I meant, "...read the book thirty years AGO..."
Jeffrey Collins Could you elaborate in short how it was one-sided in your opinion? In my view, though I haven't read the book, in summary I found most of the events being discussed were more traumatic and long-lasting for the indigenous peoples than it was for the whites.
Of course when reading and researching history you should remain unbiased, but if the sources and material lead you to as you say a generally one-sided affair what does one do? You must be willing to accept that the indigenous peoples lost for more unfortunately due to their less advanced societal structure and most importantly weaponry.
@@shannonhondo260 it is not, those reported events are facts. Buy it and make sure to read it all.
Thank you for making this.
Right, let me get over to Patreon... Keep up the good work.
I also found Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee to be a difficult read for the angry rhetoric, but I think that the purpose of that was because the book was meant to be reckoning for the American Public.
But seeing that speech in the movie where the man (who I assume is grant, I have yet to see the movie) refers to the “Irish problem” made me think of my own research into Irish history, which veers pretty heavily into revision is and one of my professors accused my first draft of being “overtly Anglophobic”. The Assimilation of the Irish was a process that began not in America with the arrival of the Irish immigrants but in Ireland itself by the English. The Irish language was in the process of being eradicated in Ireland and Irish immigrants only lost their native tongue faster in America because it was not taught to subsequent generations (my great grandfather, who’s parents were immigrants, was the only son who never learned his parents native tongue), as the language was not used in the US at all. The Gaelic Irish were also classified as second class citizens in Ireland through the Penal laws, and even after catholic emancipation, they continued to live in what was effectively a state of serfdom until the land wars (which is why my great grandfather left Ireland). The Irish were in effect, able to assimilate into American society because they were already being forced to assimilate into English society in their homeland. With their language already on the verge of extinction in their homeland, the only thing that separated the Irish from the rest of American society was Catholicism, and that was effectively protected by the fact the Irish were able to use politics and became a major force within the Democratic Party and American politics more broadly.
This is largely unrelated, but it’s just interesting and I really wanted to talk about it.
History is awesome and I love getting to talk about it!
That's Dawes giving the speech. It is interesting to see the connection between Irish and Amerindian assimilation. Have you ever read Caleb Richardson? He's a professor of mine, and has written about the Fenian Brotherhood in the US during the time of their Raids into Canada. Fascinating look into how Irish-Americans' assimilation into America was hindering their ability to fight assimilation efforts of the British in the Old Country
The Cynical Historian I’ve not read him, but his writings have come up rather frequently in the bibliographies of the sources I’ve used and in the search results in the library databases. It does sound like I’ll need to take a look at his work on the fenian raids though, it sounds interesting.
Why the western was killed by historians? o,o Interesting. I want to see that.
The western was killed by the by the noble savage myth spread by cultural relativism that comes from Marxism and other kinds of post modernist philosophies.
i Grew up HERE in Minnesota/"The Twin Cities", home of MST3K in Hopkins... Thank you Dad for getting me into that show!!!
He was a big dude, with an even bigger HEART... He was 6FT-3IN, maxed out at 330LBS before Type2 Diabetes Kicked In!
I'm 6FT, 300LBS but like Dad, I'm of a stocky build, who wears a size 13 shoe... I AM trying to shed the flab over my stocky muscular body... I used to bike from Cottage Grove Minn. to Prescott Wisc with my guitar+gear in tow!!!
I’d like to see a video about the Western genre’s demise.
Believe it or not, in Canada I have actually scene a few history textbooks used the term skraeling, usually as a descriptor for the now extinct Beothuk. Although generally we refer to them as either First Nation, Indigenous or simply their nations name.
29:45 "What they're trying to do ... is cut off our access to information itself. If they can't do it by law, they know there are other ways to do it." - Jello Biafra, 1991
Yes I want to see that episode
I like the term Indigenous American
I like the term injun
But they weren't indigenous to America.
I prefer skrealing
I don't.
25:00 "good enough to be in classrooms" watched this my junior or senior year in history class
Nice to see the fulcrum is in the middle ( or here the illusion thereof).
I’d like to see that episode
I am very, very grateful that you've covered this. I don't 100% agree with your opinions, and there were some crucial points to the assimilation policy that I feel you glossed over, though that's understandable. This is a long one!
I have a slightly different view of most of this his than most people do. My grandmother was deeply, deeply ashamed of her Penobscot blood. She HATED 'Indians' and hated and denied that part of herself. But, she grew up in a time when people were still regularly spouting "kill the Indian, save the man" at her.
Attitudes have changed quite a bit in just the last few decades. When I started my first day at new school (during the middle of the year) in grade 10 I walked into a history class and the teacher straight up said that Indians were lazy, pot-smoking savages. That would never fly now, less than 30 years later.
I would still like to see more of American Indian history taught in school, but I still appreciate it whenever anyone covers it. And I think you did a great job here! :D
Thanks. Which pieces should I have covered in more depth? I think tribal termination deserves much more depth than I gave it here (leaving room for more exploration in a "death of the western" video), but yeah, just too much for this massive video
@@CynicalHistorian I don't know that you really could have covered much of anything more without turning into an hour long video. Some of the Elders have talked about WHY the hunting rights were taken away.
I know it's been debated for a while, some people siding with the argument that whites were just greedy and wanted all the foods for themselves. Others tend to point out that entire tribes were relocated to faily barren places and then been given starvation rations.
A lot of cultural traditions revolve around food. So what happens when you take away an entire nations ability to get food, to cook any food they DO manage to get in traditional ways? A lot of traditions are just plain lost.
Most foods that people think of as traditionally belonging to other countries actually have their roots here. Vanilla for yummy French pastry. Tomatoes for Italian pasta, potatoes, squash.
Most tribes were moved to locations were they didn't know the plants, or how to prepare the starvation rations they were issued by the government. (flour, lard and beans)
Because food changed so drastically, so quickly, traditions had to change or die too. 3 day feast with very specific meals for a coming of age ceremony? Not happening.
Funeral rites that required certain meals prepared in special ways? Not happening.
Courtship gifts and birth rituals and religious ceremonies all either had to change or die as well.
And it was all due to a such a drastic change in location and diet.
A LOT of Elders think it was a deliberate way to kill the culture and "get rid of the problem" while humoring the humanitarians.
And that's just ONE thing. I think if you had covered that it would have taken too much time. And if you had covered the VERY strict regulations about where and what American Indians could learn, and how they had to dress, behave and speak on top of that, the video would have turned into a series LOL
And keep in mind these policies were still very much alive and enforced right up through the 1970s!
So, I still think it was a great video! I know it's not your prefered area of study so I'm just happy that you did the video! :)
@@TheCassandraStryffe interestingly enough, the movie symbolically covered the confluence of rationing and tradition.
I do avoid Amerindian history somewhat, but can't completely considering how deeply entwined with American violence it is, and that's my subject
@@CynicalHistorian I may have to watch it again. I had pretty much forgotten all of it until I watched this. Now I feel like I missed something in your video too lol. I'll leave it up in a tab to watch again after I've slept. I'm pretty brain-fried at the moment
Thank you again though!
New intro? I like it, greetings from Italy.
I've used it once before, but only for HBO films
@@CynicalHistorian I see thanks for the answer, being a huge fan of the Sopranos I kinda hoped you switched to this intro style permanently, interesting video anyway.
My only comment.. as a trauma therapist, it's the 'broken up old men' who are the movers and changes of our society. For him to have been through all he'd experienced, he'd have to have been a stone wall or some such thing to not have been shattered and traumatized. Some people become less than themselves after trauma, some become mosaics - stronger than before - resilient, driven, effective - I'm guessing this is the case for him.
Are there any books for people who aren’t experts of this subject in history but want to learn for themselves? the book you mentioned in the video seemed to be biased with that first so I’m not sure if it would be good for me to read in order to get an idea of the film. Also I really like your videos and I’ll probably contribute to your Patreon.
This book only covers the Comanche, who ruled the southern half of the great plains but "Comanche empire" by Pekka Hämäläinen is a great general history.
For all of Amerindian history, I'd recommend the edited volume that is listed in the description. An especially good chapter in there was written by Donald Fixico. He just finished a tenure as the president of the Western Historical Association, and his final speech in San Antonio was what prompted me to read basically all of his stuff. It's a varied volume, so you can find something on just about anything you'd need to know, and where to start if you wanted to read more. That's the nice thing about those "companion to [X]" histories
I'd love to see that video
The Pentagon Wars is a based on a true story that I would like to see on this series.
I was at standing rock. I used to work with a tribal News paper outfit. we covered it extensively. the police are not on the people's side. we were attacked along with the protestors. dogs and mercenaries in the day time and fire hoses at night.
Will you ever do a video about te ata, the treasure of Oklahoma? A movie was made about her in 2016-2017 called Te Ata.
Your example at 19:40 is the writer trying to make you uncomfortable by showing how the colonization of the new world must've felt to the people being colonized. I feel like it had its intended effect on this occasion.
Love the use of the Descendants.
I have to say I was really impressed by your even talking about this subject. It is such a contentious issue driven more by politics than a lack of understanding of the real history. one of my ex's was an archaeologist specialising in Native American studies so it is an area I have had quite a bit of exposure to. While The book Bury my heart at wounded knee was an interesting book, it is very much viewed through a post modernist lens with a very strong feeling of cultural relativism throughout it. That said it is an interesting book even if it does rely more on emotion than actual facts. Like most popular books on history it tells an emotive story based around current cultural perceptions rather than an accurate portrayal of history.
I would like to see that episode
the word India comes from the timil word for India Intiyāvil as far as i know Bharat is the Hindi name.
I thought the name India came from either the Indus River or from the word Hindi itself
@Herdan well done Hindustan just means land of Hindus Bharat is a sanscript word
Thanks!
And thank you!
Anybody know if a CMH ever has been rescended. Also another great video. Love getting videos in sub list.
18:20 The clip is from *The Searchers* which is loosely based on the story of Cynthia Ann Parker, who was taken by Comanches as a child. She was "recovered" after a long search at about 34 years old, completely assimilated and a mother of three. Her oldest son was Quanah Parker, a man of some historical note, especially in Texas. James Michener also used Cynthia Ann Parker's story as a pattern for his Emma Larkin character in his novel *Texas*.
Cynthia Ann Parker was taken with her adult pregnant older sister and her brother. The older sister ended up staying with the Commaches for about four years and her father was able to get her returned to him from New Mexico. She lost her baby while being marched to Commache territory and wrote about her time with the Commaches. Her book is studied today for it is the only contemporary accounts of the Commaches of the 1840s.
As to white women committing suicide rather then being raped, she called a ball face lie. After being pulled by horses through all types of throws, no woman would have the strength to kill herself to prevent rape.
A few years after being returned to her father she died but she did write about her time with the Commaches.
Her brother is also interesting. He was returned to his family as a young teensger but then ran back to the Commaches. While with the Commaches ran across a Mexican female taking her dead father back to his village. He was so smitten by her that he escorted her back to her village I'm Mexico and married her and, except for the US Civil War, lived with her to his death.
The Brother did serve in the Southern Army during the Civil War and survived it.
As to Cynthia Ann Parker, she lived with a male cousin for 16 years, till she received news of his death at Shiloh. She never recovered from that loss for he had been her maim support after she lived again with her family.
Cynthia Ann Parker's son Qunna Parker after he had surrendered at the end of the Commache war of 1870, went to her grave and meet her (and his) white family members. They treated him with respect due to a Commache Chief.
Interesting family, the Parker themselves had started out in New England in the 1600s and moved to Texas in the early 1800s. They were political opponents of Sam Houston but like Houston wanted people to move to Texas, thus why his eldest daughter wrote a book about her time with the Commaches and he wrote a book about why people in the mud 1800s should move to Texas.
I'd like to see that episode
You make excellent content 👌
Do you ever do book recommendation videos?
Stay strong, brother
Could you do a wars you've never heard of episode on the Bluff War of 1914-15 or just a general episode on the last native rebellions in the 20th century
Make the video of how the western genre was killed by historians please!!!
DO IT! Make the western episode, I'd love to hear your take on it.
Great video as usual :D
Civil war seems to be how the Ashinabe ended up in northern AB then. This is not their trditional land anymore than it's the traditional land of early settlers who came by canoe. One has to wonder how the native people got into northern Alberta BEFORE the early settlers. Did they choose to come by river in late 1860's and 70's because others had come before to make it livable. Probably, heh? NObody chooses to live in Northern Alberta exactly. But because of the river and fur trade, decisions were made by crazy people to open up fur trade which caused the area to be desirable for native people to get some pocket money. When the seal trade was decimated by environmentalists in the far north, inuit figured out they just needed seal to survice. They had no money to buy anything else, but then they never did.
I would love to see that video
17:15 you're goddamn right that I want to see that video, so please make it in a future (even if it isn't near)
"I want to make history." Ought to be on a shirt.
I would like to see that episode as to why Historians killed the Western Genre. :)
I wanna see an episode of what killed the western
First Nations, Indigenous Americans, Amerindians. I have heard many terms for the people who were here before us, but they seem to not really care what they are called as long as it is respectful.
you're amazing continue
Just doing my due diligence and commenting that I'd love to get that video on how historians killed the western genre. Also, do you have a lot of back-logged video ideas? The reason I ask is because I always have a fear of pushing an idea I'd prefer on the back burner because I don't know about it. A comprehensive list of some sort of video ideas you have would be awesome.
I keep one, and it's a very long list
Saw the movie in a native culture and history class in high school this movie blew me away, both as the crimes and lies done to the Native American tribes and I think it’s a well done film.
Well done! I am sorry, I can't give you money, as I don't have much :-( But I am a big fan of your channel!
Please do the "Why the Western died."
Thank you friend for bringing truth to the surface. And yet the Caucasian will never be native American, but the decendent of English settler. We today must exist as one nation ignoring the bloody truth of to which this very state was build. It's imperative that we remember the true history before we look to make any promising future.
I’d love to see a video on the Westerns
I'd watch that
There's another book that was sorta based off this book called The Heartbeat of Wounded Knee.
In the state i live in there is nocharge for medical care for american indians, but i have to pay. They lost the war but won the peace.
Id love to see that video
The Men Who Built America: Frontiersman. How legitimate are these? I really enjoyed the whole series and they went far deeper into CA history than I ever knew (bc I didn't know anything). I'm just asking if you can qualify it in the hopes they're doing justice to all that deep history CA has.
please make the episode