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  • @johnaucamp7106
    @johnaucamp7106 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1480

    General Patton is always better than Specific Patton.
    I'll show myself out...

    • @airport862
      @airport862 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That was funny, as shown by all the likes.

    • @suflanker45
      @suflanker45 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Better than Common Patton. This way? Right?

    • @linecookyeet
      @linecookyeet 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      its ok you can come back

    • @thurin84
      @thurin84 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      you sir, DESERVE to be slapped by a general.

    • @soldiersandstuff9607
      @soldiersandstuff9607 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I think the top of the list is Distinct Patton... alright let me get the noose

  • @KillerKane0
    @KillerKane0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1245

    One of my professors was a US Army officer in the early 70s. While at Fort Knox, he - a young 2LT - found himself being chewed out by Lt. Gen. George S. Patton IV. While the general ranted and raved, my friend started to smirk. "What are you smiling at, Second Lieutenant?," he asked, emphasizing his supremely junior rank? My friend replied "The Irony, sir. 35 years ago, your father chewed out my father, a field artillery master sergeant." Patton's jaw dropped, and he totally forgot the subject of their talk. Afterwards, the general called my friend by his first name.

    • @gumgumdookuin7963
      @gumgumdookuin7963 6 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      Lol. Guess the old saying is true. Like father, like son.

    • @Spacklatard
      @Spacklatard 6 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      LOL, Once again Americans show they don't know the difference between irony and coincidence ;)

    • @KillerKane0
      @KillerKane0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Remember, those are my friend's words, not mine.

    • @WordBearer86
      @WordBearer86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You said your professor in college.

    • @danconrad920
      @danconrad920 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Ulric Kessler ,, his prof. can't be a friend?

  • @Idahoguy10157
    @Idahoguy10157 6 ปีที่แล้ว +450

    People aren’t taught that WW2 was a war of amateurs. The prewar Army was tiny. Professional soldiers were a small minority of those who served. Most professional soldiers stayed in CONUS and trained volunteers and draftees. The ones overseas were more often staff and logistics officers. Pros in combat like Patton were a rarity.

    • @Cancoillotteman
      @Cancoillotteman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Professionals could be found in the remainings of invaded countries (Poland, Dutch, French free forces). These were very few in numbers, but very determind and for most of those professional soldier, or simply soldiers that at least had fought for the better part of 2 years before the US even became involved. This can explain how they stood up to German forces even when heavily outnumbered like at El Alamein or Bir Hakeim.

    • @sawyernorthrop4078
      @sawyernorthrop4078 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It could be argued that all wars are wars of amateurs, especially those with large scale conscription

    • @Cancoillotteman
      @Cancoillotteman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Sawyer Northrop well not all wars, this is for instance how the Roman army was so terribly efficient : often years of training before seeing an actual battle, with units ranked by experience each having specific roles. But i agree that most wars were fought by levies and conscripts.

    • @philjr5714
      @philjr5714 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My grandpa was one of the few. Trained at Valley Forge from a child. Second generation war hero. Silver star for both father and son I believe. Great grandpa Purple Heart but anyone can get that.
      Ok third generation involved in active war.
      So he was extremely ready and able to wipe out and was great when it was dark as he was color blind and somehow that helped him sort out enemy from friend and camo was easier for him to spot out.
      His set of traits were bred specifically for the army. Tall, shoulders so wide you’d think he’s two people, size 12.5 shoes, 6 ft1 inches. Strong as an ox. Catcher who could’ve gone pro until he was called up to do his duty. I’m not sure if going to valley forge meant you were going to war? Or if he just wanted to do his duty. Whatever it was he served like a hero. . RIP Pop Pop.

    • @MarkHolzhauer_Holzy
      @MarkHolzhauer_Holzy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Cancoillotteman .....or WWII Japan

  • @Wallyworld30
    @Wallyworld30 6 ปีที่แล้ว +543

    Eisenhower was already pissed at Patton before the slapping incident. When the Patton invaded Sicily he had his troops so keyed up to shoot anything that moved they ended up shooting down the US Air Support in the worst case of American Friendly fire in all of WW2 and Eisenhower held Patton personally responsible for this. The slapping incident was just the straw that broke the Camels back. (Source The Second World War: Antony Beevor) Edited: To provide source.

    • @gumgumdookuin7963
      @gumgumdookuin7963 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Worried Ben Carmine: Uuuh, friendly fire?

    • @teslashark
      @teslashark 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Terry Allen thought of Patton as a millstone tied to everyone else, Teddy Roosevelt Jr seems to also have something against him too... He must have been difficult to operate alongside.

    • @USSAnimeNCC-
      @USSAnimeNCC- 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's is wrong that found this funny

    • @thurin84
      @thurin84 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      much of the fire actually came from naval ships conducting the invasion.

    • @WordBearer86
      @WordBearer86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I thought the worse case of friendly fire happened during that night time training exercise along the British coast with casualties among both British and American personnel. Not only was there friendly fire, but apparently a group of German Z boats came in and started torping the ships that were participating in the training. I think this was for a possible night time landing for D day I think, or it had happened just before dawn can't remember exactly the specifics of it all.

  • @Skyking67832
    @Skyking67832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Interesting fact: One throw-away detail in the film shows Patton reading a book entitled A History of the Norman Conquests, as he was being flown into Normandy along with all the other "Spare Parts." The fact is, he really was reading that book, researching where all the ancient Roman roads in Northern France were so he could use them for his tanks. They were the only roads capable of allowing him to run the tanks at full speed and they were used as his line of advance, which explains why he was able to move so far and so fast the Germans couldn't stop him.

    • @fwcolb
      @fwcolb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Interesting. Even in 1963 when I arrived in the UK as a graduate student in geography, UK roads could not support tanks. The rural roads were too narrow and not strong enough to support them. British roads were the best obstacle to invasion.

    • @P7777-u7r
      @P7777-u7r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Amazing that roman roads held up with tanks driving over them thousands of years after being built. Probably overlooked by the Germans too who'd be focusing on the modern roads

    • @tehutibrim594
      @tehutibrim594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very good tidbit from the movie

    • @Skyking67832
      @Skyking67832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@P7777-u7r Actually, considering the engineering the Romans put into their roads, which was advanced even by modern standards, it's not too surprising. Patton's skill as a historian made him the general he was. Why do you think the phrase "All roads lead to Rome" is more than just a stock phrase. They were renown for their engineering skill.

    • @dmathesonfvg
      @dmathesonfvg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Skyking67832 Few people realize that Roman roads of the time were Asphalt over stone foundations. They were for smoother chariot rides. And at the height of the empire, relatively well maintained. (Until the Crazy Emperors took over, and raided the coffers. )

  • @Idahoguy10157
    @Idahoguy10157 6 ปีที่แล้ว +356

    I’ve never met a WW2 combat vet who liked the term “the good war’’.

    • @goldman77700
      @goldman77700 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @LTrain 45 Wow that is more badass.

    • @timvanrijn8239
      @timvanrijn8239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      a good war whouldnt end with halve a continet enslaved to ´´unitopian´´ dictators with a need for controle

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @LTrain 45 Russian, or more correctly, Soviet losses in WW2 were about 20 million.

    • @Izzbrancuh77
      @Izzbrancuh77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@timvanrijn8239 They should have let Patton go after them. We could have avoided the cold war if he did so. It would have been bloody, but maybe not as bloody as communism during the rest of the 20th century ended up being.
      Instead he was killed because he knew too much and didn't conform to the globalists.

    • @lynnwood7205
      @lynnwood7205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@NormanMStewart One of my uncles was in an US Army unit that over ran a death camp. He would only say that they helped liberate it and would talk no further of it.
      He went to college, graduated, married, had a successful career and loving family but of some of his life he would not talk of.

  • @Torus2112
    @Torus2112 6 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    From a narrative perspective I liked how they handled Eisenhower. The fact that we never see him combined with the way they always talk about him honestly reminds me of how people talk about God, which I imagine isn't too far off the mark for the time.

    • @HPaulHonsinger
      @HPaulHonsinger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Along those lines, Patton would refer to Ike in his (known to be censored) mail to his wife as "Divine Destiny." As in, "if Devine Destiny grants my wish," etc. Obviously, this comes from Ike's given names, "Dwight David."

    • @TheOlesarge
      @TheOlesarge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Interesting take.

    • @Seisoks
      @Seisoks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not american. Eisenhower was so respected that some politician asked him to (coup) run for president again. He denied. Many american generals were honorable men. American have greatest military system with people putting their country first.
      Not like Bush American.

  • @andrewjones1578
    @andrewjones1578 6 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    My grandfather was a S/Sgt leading a squad for the 8th Inf. Rgt. Intelligence and Reconnaissance Platoon during WWII who never really cared for films or TV. My Father remembers him storming out of a theater watching some war movie in the '50s angrily shouting, "That's not how war is!" and never saw another movie. Or he would have, until the movie Patton. Grandpa had served with the 4th Infantry Division since 1940(back when it was a motorized division) and was there for the Louisiana Maneuvers with Patton and admired his style. As far as Grandpa was concerned, this was the one movie he saw that got it right.

    • @leonardotavaresdardenne9955
      @leonardotavaresdardenne9955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Would like to see what your grandpa would have thought of Saving Private Ryan...

  • @Wallyworld30
    @Wallyworld30 6 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    In the book Panzer Commander: The Memoirs of Colonel Hans Von Luck. Von Luck say's Patton was known as the American Rommel. That is high praise from somebody that worked very closely with Rommel and revered him in the highest regard. I think this is important because there is a a myth that German soldiers didn't know who Patton even was. This may have been true on the Eastern Front but if they were on the Western Front they knew bloody damn well who old Blood and Gut's was.

    • @Cancoillotteman
      @Cancoillotteman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I guess the celebrity of Patton amongst German ranks can explain partly why he was chosen for operation Fortitude : the best decoy is the shinest.

    • @Cadian045
      @Cadian045 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I’ve heard different sources from German records stating that German High Command had never heard of General Patton throughout the entire war

    • @crimfan
      @crimfan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I'm pretty sure they had dossiers on all senior officers in opposing forces. Whether they were as obsessed with him as Americans like to think... no clue there.

    • @tisFrancesfault
      @tisFrancesfault 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Patton wasnt known, OKW had know real intel on minor generals. Hans Von Luck was just using Pattons fame as a way to sell his book.

    • @derpimusmaximus8815
      @derpimusmaximus8815 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Operation Fortitude succeeded because MI5 had spent years capturing and/or turning every German agent in Britain, so that every report received by the Germans from an agent within the UK had in fact been written by a British Intelligence agent, to provide an accurate enough picture of the hoax to not just tie up forces in the Pas de Calais, but 13 divisions in Norway.

  • @eldorados_lost_searcher
    @eldorados_lost_searcher 6 ปีที่แล้ว +470

    Not enough bling on that uniform, that facial hair is problematic, your cover was off-center, and how can you even see without your issued BCG's? Drop down and push that floor until I'm tired!

    • @whoareyou1034
      @whoareyou1034 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I fear if his distant relative who this video is about would fine him or want to have to shot or something

    • @panosfasoul699
      @panosfasoul699 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      He's a soldier! 20 dollar fine!

    • @BountyFlamor
      @BountyFlamor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      and don't forget to POLICE THAT MUSTACHE! COMPLY WITH THE GROOMING STANDARD!
      That reminds me: you could review Generation Kill from 2008 about the Iraq War.

    • @Ugly_German_Truths
      @Ugly_German_Truths 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Garret LeBuis
      It's not even the correct form of uniform... Patton (in th Movie scene with the flag and fanfare) wore his parade dress ... not creased BDUs...

    • @Riceball01
      @Riceball01 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Feno 3000 ACUs, not BDUs. Also, you're not supposed to press your ACU, or MCCUs for that matter, all of the successors to the BDU are supposed to be wash and wear, so no more starching the hell out of them and pressing them until they can stand up on their own.

  • @steampunksamp80
    @steampunksamp80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    That acting is so good, “Rommel you magnificent bastard I READ YA BOOK!!” Had me laughing too hard, he fits it really well

  • @iammrbeat
    @iammrbeat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    I'll finish this epic video by the end of the week. Happy birthday!

    • @alcatraz1018
      @alcatraz1018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      mr breast can u give me money

    • @leannefresquez3490
      @leannefresquez3490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alcatraz1018 that's not Mr Beast

    • @alcatraz1018
      @alcatraz1018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@leannefresquez3490 It's a joke, whenever you see a Mr. Beat comment you also respond to it with that.

    • @leannefresquez3490
      @leannefresquez3490 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alcatraz1018 I see

    • @wildercain1026
      @wildercain1026 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      instablaster.

  • @bufu254
    @bufu254 6 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    Patton last words was ARTILLERY ONLY

    • @Garhunt05
      @Garhunt05 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      No it would be *tanks only*

    • @bufu254
      @bufu254 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Garhunt05 nah mate to easy for someone like him he liked a good challenge

    • @Garhunt05
      @Garhunt05 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bufu254 he liked a challenge but he is known for tanks. Also seizing territory with only tanks is very difficult

    • @bufu254
      @bufu254 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Garhunt05 well true and true

    • @johnholmes2397
      @johnholmes2397 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know he said that we helped the wrong side win....

  • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
    @JohnRodriguesPhotographer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The reason that Patton enforced uniform code was to create discipline. My dad, 6th Armored, was in dirty grease stained tanker overalls. He hadn't shaved in a week or so. He was riding a liberated French bike, out scrounging for food. General Patton came rolling up the road in a M4 Sherman. From the German end of the road! His tank was painted gloss OD. His stars prominently displayed on the front. My Dad fully expected a loud reprimand. Instead General Patton asked where his CO was. Dad told him. The General asked why they were stopped. Dad explained the German's held the next village and they were waiting for orders. The General barked back he had just came from from the village and there weren't any Germans in the village. Told my Dad to get his tanks fired up and ready to move! Five minutes later, orders came to move from a thoroughly chastised company commander. Yep, true story. The general loved his fighting troops.

    • @Seisoks
      @Seisoks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Patton literally stole fuel for his troops and always right behind his troops. He loved and stick by his troops. Maybe that why they rekt through enemy line.

  • @Ranillon
    @Ranillon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Half ironically, recent research into General Marshall's papers produced a copy of a memo that Eisenhower sent to Patton around early '44 where Ike basically told Patton that if he messed up just ONE MORE TIME his career was OVER. In other words, before Patton had the chance to redeem himself in the Normandy breakout, he came as close as he could to ruin without crossing the line. This fact also makes one wonder just how much Eisenhower went to bat for Patton. Maybe he did and the real reason Patton was given that one last chance was because Eisenhower fought for him - but perhaps not.
    That said, It is true that Patton was indirectly responsible for helping save and then make Eisenhower's career. In the '20s Ike came perilously close to being thrown out of the army on an accusation of committing fraud (he tried to get a housing supplement to his income he actually did not deserve). Part of the reason he dodged that bullet was being moved out of his current assignment with Patton helping Ike get connected with Fox Conner, an older, skilled soldier who arguably became Ike's greatest mentor. Conner took a real interest in Eisenhower and helped to teach him the skills that allowed Ike to turn around and ace the Command and Staff college (Patton also apparently helped by giving him his old notes) - which was when Eisenhower's career really began to takeoff.
    So, Ike clearly owed Patton a debt, so I am inclined to think he really did go to bat for him, but perhaps more research will make this matter clear.

    • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
      @JohnRodriguesPhotographer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eisenhower was more politician than soldier. Provide Patton and Eisenhower identical opposing forces. Eisenhower would be tarred and feathered.

    • @Ranillon
      @Ranillon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      John Rodrigues Eisenhower’s job WAS effectively to be a politician and strategic mind. However, while Patton was certainly better on the tactical and perhaps operational level, I submit that Eisenhower would have been far better in Patton’s job than vice versa. Don’t dis Eisenhower- he was in charge of the western allies and they did win.

    • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
      @JohnRodriguesPhotographer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Ranillon look at the Battle of the Bulge. Patton advocated driving across the base of the Bulge. This would have trapped over 100000 Germans. Eisenhower elected to push them back to their lines. This was a gross tactical and strategic mistake.

    • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
      @JohnRodriguesPhotographer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ranillon I stand by my statement

    • @Seisoks
      @Seisoks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had read only 3 books on Patton, Eisen and Mac Arthur.
      It seems like Patton was one of the old blood who was respected by many at the time.
      Daring and dependable with tendency to war monger. History would be different if he didnt died early. Most literature put him down as useful but hot head idiot. I doubt they dare write if he was alive.

  • @brycew3804
    @brycew3804 6 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    YA BEARD IS OUT OF REG M8

    • @igoralekseyev3347
      @igoralekseyev3347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Your moustache hairs is in violations of the grooming standard... POLICE THAT MOUSTACHE

    • @Aloysius2113
      @Aloysius2113 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@igoralekseyev3347 moo-stache*

  • @aewhatever
    @aewhatever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    It blew my mind when I first heard Patton's voice.

    • @cedricgist7614
      @cedricgist7614 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Patton's voice: like hearing Mike Tyson or Bob Gibson speak. Oh, they all had grit, but the voice belies the, "don't mess with me," persona.

  • @josersandoval
    @josersandoval 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I had no idea Cypher served. I must sincerely thank you for your sacrifice, you and of those who have served.

  • @oceanberserker
    @oceanberserker 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have got the weirdest luck. You're distantly related to Ol' Blood and Guts, my Great Uncle William actually rode with him in the 3rd. Here's a little tidbit for you in regards to the movie, you remember that scene where he says to his dog, 'You're name's not William, it's Willie!' When I was a kid and watched the movie with him, he said that's exactly Patton said to him, word for word, when he got pulled to the side by him to reprimand him and he asked for my Great Uncle's name, lol! It really IS a small world!

  • @Timasion
    @Timasion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Patton was one of the oddest and most contradictory generals in US history. Also, the most successful.

  • @roberthitchman
    @roberthitchman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Here’s a list of movies I’d like you to review for historical accuracy:
    1. The battle of Britain.
    2. The longest day.
    3. A bridge too far.
    4. Black Hawk down.
    5. The great escape.
    6. Fury.
    7. Midway. 1976
    8. Glory.
    Thanks

    • @ciarandinsmore879
      @ciarandinsmore879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Robert Hitchman TORA! TORA! TORA!

    • @maverick8697
      @maverick8697 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We were soldiers, Generation kill, Band of brothers.

    • @gonuts4donuts
      @gonuts4donuts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hamburger Hill

    • @johngoerger8996
      @johngoerger8996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BRIDGE TO FALL. Nail on the HEAD..Some incidents had to be compressed. Incident of the Sgt pulling his .45 spot on..
      A "hearing" was convened in England a few weeks (2?) after failed Market Gardens..all charges were dropped aganist the Sgt. According to the text A BRIDGE TO FAR..the doctor talked to the Sgt & asked him; "..would u have shot me?" The Sgt stood straight & tall, saluted the Doctor rotating on his feet & left the Hearing room
      The Lt (Captain?) Woke up in a hospital in England about a few days later witg just a headache

    • @andym9571
      @andym9571 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well 3 , 4 and 5 took huge liberties with the truth to be able to sell to an American audience

  • @warhawk638
    @warhawk638 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    That reveal, tho.

  • @donmcmannamy3409
    @donmcmannamy3409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    My father met Patton during war games before WW2, he did not think to highly of Patton (that was an understatement)

    • @donmcmannamy3409
      @donmcmannamy3409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My dad also was awarded a medal from him during the same wargames as well

    • @455Transam
      @455Transam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why didn't he think highly of him?

  • @KTChamberlain
    @KTChamberlain 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I thank you for your service, Cypher, both as a veteran and as a history buff.

  • @TheCoffeehound
    @TheCoffeehound 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I suppose that would make us distant relations, also. Duane Patton, my grandfather's brother, served in 3rd Army as a medic. He landed at Le Harve in December of 1944, and served in the 1252nd Medical Detachment.

  • @JustanOlGuy
    @JustanOlGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My Father taught me at a young age that War is a Racket, Coming from an Army Air Corps/ Air Force Lifer, Spec Ops Medic, I took him at his word!

  • @michealcormier2555
    @michealcormier2555 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I visited General Patton's grave in Luxembourg on Memorial Day 1992. I was surprised with just how simple it was. What distinguished it from the rest at the American Cemetery was that his Marker was facing the rest of the interred soldiers there as if he were at eternal inspection of the troops. I also got to stay at the Patton Hotel in Garmisch(?) Germany during Christmas. Being an Air Force Brat gave me a lot of opportunities to see a lot of things in Europe between '88 and '92.

    • @peterbanderas8184
      @peterbanderas8184 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Funny enough the French loved Patton so much they offered to bury him in the same tomb as Napoleon. But it was decided that the best place for him was with his men.

  • @caseyjones8203
    @caseyjones8203 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Patton was Patton, he loved and lived military. He had one thing in mind, he had a destiny which drove him to the brink of insanity, but thanks to WWII he excelled to brilliancy. He drove the victory in WWII, despite some contraversy.

  • @williamgoo7621
    @williamgoo7621 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    What a plot twist towards the end of your review. 😂
    While many movies mystify the protagonists, this one, together with your review, actually makes Patton looks like an average human-being no different from you and me.
    I have not watched this movie before but guess I will do so after your review.

  • @stephenlarson9422
    @stephenlarson9422 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    patton was the only movie that both my father and grandfather went and saw together,
    grampa was a mechanic in the usaaf, crew chief on a b26 bomber
    he hated patton,
    everytime he got too far ahead they had to send in the bombers to get shot up

  • @ellagreytanner
    @ellagreytanner 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think my favorite historian is you. Yes, you cypher, for obvious reasons. You really tell the truth and get into the grit. Amazing stuff .

  • @RichGilpin
    @RichGilpin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your review. Thank you. I served under Col. Patton commander of the 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment (Blackhorse) in Vietnam 1968-1969. Instantly recognized your shoulder patch of course. Saw this movie after returning from Vietnam while intoxicated, which I was a lot for those first few years back due to PTSD. Loved it because of the honest way it was made and the way the general was portrayed. Took me a while in Vietnam but I understood better afterward why Patton Jr. (not official designation) was so strict. He rode over our deployment to the field column of armor handing out article 15's for lack of helmets or flack jackets unzipped. I saw on a later mission a man on a the vehicle in front of me die because his flack jacket was unzipped. Later yet (in 1995) I returned to Vietnam and in our group of vets was a Cav vet who had a private talk with the colonel due to being assessed an article 15 for a loose M-16 observed on his vehicle. Colonel Patton showed him the famous pearl handled revolver of his father's and treated him as a son. Good work!

  • @GentTX
    @GentTX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    wow my image of Patton has been forever changed after hearing his real voice. G.C.S. really warped our preception

  • @joes7763
    @joes7763 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I think it would be interesting to see the Pancho Villa campaign, to my knowledge there are no movies that show this history

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      An episode of Young Indiana Jones shows Indy meeting Pancho Villa. At first young Indy is taken prisoner by some Mexican rebels who intend to shoot their prisoners. Then Pancho Villa arrives on the scene, starts berating his men for what they have become. Then he frees the prisoners and some Mexican rebel whispers to Indy: ah, the boss is in one of his emotional moods (informing us that Villa probably usually had no problem with having prisoners shot). After traveling along with Villa for some time, Indy and a few Mexican friends visit a local town's bar. There they spot an arrogant American officer who is toasting to the US of A: "God Bless America. And death to all its enemies… Especially that low-life of a Pancho Villa..." One of Indy's Mexican rebel friends takes exception, draws his revolver but before he can shoot, Patton shoots him dead. Indy and his friends hurriedly leave the scene.

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Johnny Dominguez* I think that depiction in Young Indiana Jones was meant as a parody, a charicature. It was also in shot in a saloon setting so young Patton became the stranger that had just arrived in town, ready to pick a fight.

  • @tylerlastofthehonkytonkpia8106
    @tylerlastofthehonkytonkpia8106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Your Grandfather married into the Los Angeles Young family? Holy crap man! You and I are distantly related. It is a small world.

    • @CynicalHistorian
      @CynicalHistorian  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Interesting. Didn't think we spread out that much, especially when Joe Jr. and Great Uncle Lee died childless

  • @wehrmeister
    @wehrmeister 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Enjoyed your comments on the movie, one of my favorites. I will never forget seeing it for the first time, as a 9-10 year old Army brat, where my Dad was stationed at Baumholder in Germany. My Mom would give me money take my younger sister to watch matinees at the base theater, which seemed like a long hike from our housing to the theater. Funny to think watching as it was rated GP, which was "All ages admitted - Parental guidance suggested. [Sometimes a disclaimer would say "This film contains material which may not be suitable for pre-teenagers"]" So glad we weren't turned away! I remember being enthralled with the movie, and being impressed with the heroics involved in the story, the violence kind of went over my head at that age. It solidified my love with the military, which led me to join the Air Force. My Dad, just coming back from two tours in Vietnam before we went to Germany, wouldn't sign for me to join the Army or Marines when I signed up for Delayed Enlistment in high school, just turning 17.
    What a neat note to learn that you're related to General Patton, a heritage to be proud of, no matter how distant the relationship!

  • @firefightergoggie
    @firefightergoggie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of the greatest things I ever heard about this movie was a story my uncle told me.
    He went to see the movie and saw a line of excited hippies waiting to get in.
    He said even the hippies wanted to be like General Patton.

  • @ed008ue
    @ed008ue 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Patton is a hell of a movie!!!
    Review the counterpart movie, Tora, Tora, Tora (1970)

  • @markholm6955
    @markholm6955 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is also one of my favorite films. It is a great character study. There things that I really mis in the film - but not necessary also. I really wish they could have the Battle of Arracourt in the film - it was one, of not the biggest, the biggest real tank on tank battles in the ETO - and tank warfare is what Patton’s speciality. However I don’t see how it would really help the picture. But it is kind of jarring to jump from the Battle of the Bulge to the end of the war.
    FYI on a historical note - my Dad was captured in the Battle of the Bulge. However he was liberated by Patton’s Army - he was so happy, he said back then he was going to name his 1st born son after Patton. Well that part never happened - because - I was n’t born until the tail end of the baby boom. It was only after I was the film, in the theaters, and started reading every book I could on Patton - he told me that bit of information. He was not one to talk about his time fighting in the ETO. I found out much later in my life about a few very ugly incidents durning his time fighting - so I totally understood why. However as something me with a great interest in history - especially WW2 - I sure wish he could have told me more about his experiences in WW2.

  • @grafenr.3405
    @grafenr.3405 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for your service. I did my basic training at Ft. Knox back in 1982 C-18-4 hardcore.

  • @awesomeinspector5270
    @awesomeinspector5270 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Well I'm at least glad you took the time to watch it. And WHOO! Shoutout for the Inspector!

  • @picklerix6162
    @picklerix6162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    OK, so we need to have a drinking game for the movie Patton. You have to down your beer every time Monty, Ike, or Rommel is mentioned.

  • @peterbanderas8184
    @peterbanderas8184 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    General Patton also created one of the last fencing styles for fighting with sabers. Unlike the previous styles where you slashed with the blade, his saber was designed to stab with the point, so his fighting style emphasized that.

  • @BillMarion
    @BillMarion 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    "un-omits" I shall use it. It shall be mine. It's a thing a now. I just hit the edit button to add, this is a great video. I've watched several of your videos. Like all lovers of history, sometimes I'm cheering you on, and sometimes I'm screaming at the screen. That's why I keep coming back. I enjoyed this video, not because I agree or disagree (cause really, who cares lol) but its pacing is teaching some things which isn't easy in my 40's! I admit, however, the content doesn't hurt either. I mean, come on, it's Patton! Not that your hurting for subs, but you earned another one today. Great video! Looking forward to the next video!

  • @mrdoormat6809
    @mrdoormat6809 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Our Blood, His Guts"
    Jeeze, story of alot of soldiers out there.

  • @purdunetae2995
    @purdunetae2995 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My grandfather was the Sergent of Test Battery A of the 82nd Airborne. He went from the 82nd 456th to the 101st 463rd. He has a couple stories about Patton. The first is when my grandfather was in the artillery in the Iowa National Guard. He refused orders in a training operation in Louisiana and later Patton got him out of trouble. The second story comes when Patton wanted the 456th artillery with him on his race with Montgomery in Sicily. While in Hormel Belgium, my grandfather linked up with Patton in the coldest winter he ever had been in.
    Let me know if you if you would like to hear details.

  • @bobmiller3627
    @bobmiller3627 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "What do you think this is son, the French Foreign Legion!!! Shave that damn beard, stand up straight, twist my nipples! Do you get me!?!"

  • @Phalanx443
    @Phalanx443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And the E-4 Mafia produces one of the best Patton History vids on TH-cam. Well done, brother, well done!

  • @charlesratcliff2016
    @charlesratcliff2016 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have spoken to veterans who served under Patton. I asked if George C. Scott got Patton the character right I was told yes

  • @fremenchips
    @fremenchips 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'd be curious as to how you classify Amadeus as fiction or bad history (yes it's based on Pushkin play, but that play was based on Salieri claiming after his breakdown that he did kill Mozart) as it's certainty not a bad movie. Amadeus is definitely the director using the history to explore the themes of genius, envy and the creative process.

  • @Knutwolf
    @Knutwolf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You are so tenacious, so thorough in your research and presentations, that I have come to fully trust your assessment of any historical topic or movie over the years. I don’t think our political leanings quite align. It doesn’t really matter. You serve the quest for truth more than any political affiliation, which gives your films such gravitas. Keep up the good work with both your studies and you TH-cam channel.

  • @leightodd7335
    @leightodd7335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so glad I found your channel young man. I think you did a really good job explaining this movie. Your connection to the family just makes it more personal and ironic at the same time. Just like life is. Messy, depressing, glorious, flawed, amzing, beautiful, stinky, and so on. I think it's one of the great movies and especially if you take into account when it was made and what was going on in the country. I look forward to watching much more of your content.

  • @austenbin4068
    @austenbin4068 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very cool video! Good job, dude. The one thing I would disagree with you on is the battlefield aftermath scene. I always to the: "God help me, I love it so!" as something of a regret. I think he deeply loved being a soldier and a general in command of troops in combat, but seeing the devastation it rot on them, he felt very conflicted with himself in that moment. At least, that's how I think it fits in with the theme of the character in the movie. He didn't love the death, he loved the work and regretted the death it inevitably caused. There's the saying: "To be a good soldier you must love the Army. To be a good commander, you must be willing to order the death of the thing you love." That was my take on it anyway.

  • @artkoenig9434
    @artkoenig9434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done, sir! You have your job with humor and accuracy. I especially enjoyed your laying your cards on the table at the end of the presentation. Thank you!

  • @MartinSolomon
    @MartinSolomon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    [Nit pick] In the movie, it's not Zhukov, it's Katukov. Great scene.

    • @CynicalHistorian
      @CynicalHistorian  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      good of you to point it out. Could you time-stamp where I made that mistake?

    • @MartinSolomon
      @MartinSolomon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@CynicalHistorian About 27:06 Whether the incident happened or not ( I know there was a reported exchange between Zhukov and Patton during a post-war military parade), or is based on any particular incident, I don't know, but in the movie the translator definitely refers to "General Katkov" ["real" spelling Katukov] th-cam.com/video/VW5TWYbgMGQ/w-d-xo.html There was a real General Mikhail Katukov, also an armor commander, so it makes sense.

  • @itsthatoneguy5
    @itsthatoneguy5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My grandfather was a tank commander in the 2nd Armored Div. (he was in North Africa, Sicily, France and was eventually wounded pre-Rhine campaign) from what my Uncle Buddy(a wild SoB himself) said he once was ambushed while going through a pass and Patton jumped in his tank and took out a flask of whiskey took a sip and handed it to my grandfather. My grandfather took a sip and was about to hand it to one of his fellow tankers when Patton grabbed the flask out of his hand and told him to “offer his own before mine”

  • @lesleeherschfus707
    @lesleeherschfus707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Have you ever thought of doing a collaboration with History Buffs?
    I would love to hear the back and forth on a historical movie between him and you

  • @nwcoastlife
    @nwcoastlife 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Dad was obsessed with this movie and so was my mother because she is and I am somehow related to George Patton (in some genetically insignificant way). Long before the days of Amazon Prime, once a year this movie would play on TBS and the whole family would be glued to the tv.

  • @brianholmes1812
    @brianholmes1812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a bit of a newcomer to the channel, that ending was the greatest plot twist of all time

  • @biglordebunnyrabbit627
    @biglordebunnyrabbit627 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Old Ironsides patch was the first I saw in basic. Never got one, but I did some high altitude training out there when I was with the 82d

  • @ryans1234
    @ryans1234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This man is the physical representation of Soldier from TF2

  • @ricksamericana749
    @ricksamericana749 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Patton" was a combination of fact and legend. It overlooked the general's blunders, namely the "Task Force Baum" calamity. The biggest mistelling in the movie was his alleged rivalry with Field Marshall Montgomery. It was Omar Bradley who despised Montgomery, namely for taking part of his army during the Market Garden campaign. Patton didn't care for British Generals, but neither did most American officers. In fact, Patton got on with Montgomery as well as any American officer and better than a lot of English generals. Monty, had an I don't give a damn attitude that rubbed many of his peers, British and American the wrong way. However, Bradley never forgave Eisenhower or Montgomery for taking two of his divisions from him. When Patton died suddenly soon after the fighting in Europe had stopped, his diary was stolen and published in the press. In the diary, Patton was very critical of Omar Bradley. Bradley felt betrayed by Patton's lack of gratitude for helping Patton when he was in Ike's doghouse. Of course, Bradley was the principal technical advisor on the film. The movie could have just as rightly been called "Bradley". One last great misrepresentation of "Patton" was the Patton was the one general the German's feared most, myth There is simply no evidence that is true. In short, "Patton", a good movie but average history.

  • @HebaruSan
    @HebaruSan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Go make fiction"
    Exactly my reaction to _The Terror_

  • @Willisthatgoproyguy
    @Willisthatgoproyguy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was really good. As someone who likes history, learning more about the military, and having listened to the Patton them off and on for three years at 0600, I definitely appreciate your breakdown on this subject. You just got a new subscriber, too.

  • @brianmead7556
    @brianmead7556 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is your best work so far, CynicHist. You really do war movies great.

  • @marbleman52
    @marbleman52 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a Senior in H.S. in 1970. When I saw that Patton was playing in Dallas, I got in my Volkswagen Beetle and drove the approximate 40 miles from where I lived, to see it. I still remember that to this day. Thanks for the information..!!

  • @unclepatrick2
    @unclepatrick2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My favorite story relating to the movie Patton . Jack Nicolson who was nominated for a Best Actor award against George C Scott that year, said in a interview, "I knew Scott was going to win Best Actor as soon as I saw the opening scene in front of the Flag. Hell the movie could have just been that scene and Scott would have won."

  • @jzdude01
    @jzdude01 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:36 I think this understates his incredible decision making here. What he actually did was before receiving any commands, having seen the battlefield situation developing, covertly began sending his his supplies towards the 101st since he knew they were going to need to be relieved. This was iirc technically insubordination since he had not been ordered to yet and Eisenhower had not yet decided or realized the severity. This resulted in when Eisenhower did make the order Patton’s forces were able to mobilize faster than anyone at main command expected, since he had already been planning on the command days before it came.

  • @rmas32
    @rmas32 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great video. From one history nerd to another it's much appreciated. Thank you for sharing your family history as well! Very cool!

  • @ronniebishop2496
    @ronniebishop2496 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the thing that shocked me out of my mind was that poem Patton wrote, I can’t imagine any general writing something that wonderful insightful and genius, but he did. Read it. Part of it is in this movie.

    • @tomjewell7759
      @tomjewell7759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Read Grant's autobiography. Brilliant writing.

  • @kevingregory-evans6285
    @kevingregory-evans6285 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Conflicts of interest are usually declared before a presentation not after. It makes a difference.

  • @JeffreyDeCristofaro
    @JeffreyDeCristofaro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love your intro, really cracked me up! This was a film that I saw in my early-to-mid teens and my God has it aged SO well! That being said, I also agree with you about how Hollywood needs to "choose its battles" more properly when portraying a certain subject onscreen and consult its existing historical sources with the very best of humanly possible care and meticulous attention without resorting to tiresome fictionalized contrivance (unless it happens to be actual historical fiction to begin with, and even THAT acquires attention to detail and not going overboard in suspension of disbelief!), while at the same time not losing either its focus or audience interest. The ones that manage that balance with the barest minimum of inaccuracies or liberties taken while still being stand-alone cinematic masterpieces happen to be far fewer and further in between than the surviving soldiers storming the beaches of Normandy on D-Day.

  • @wesleyhite8203
    @wesleyhite8203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    'I feel sorry for our enemies, by God, l really do!' George S Patton.

  • @hosseynshanbehzaadeh9342
    @hosseynshanbehzaadeh9342 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm from Iran and I even didn't know Gen. Patton before watching this movie.
    But now it's actually one of the best Hollywood movies of that era that I've ever seen.

  • @Rikalonius
    @Rikalonius 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I was mad at first when I saw you in uniform. That went away, when I realized you were actually a veteran. This was a great video and I think your take on Patton the man and the film were spot on. I appreciate your diligence. It is one of my favorite movies as well.

  • @CheezeN7
    @CheezeN7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this review. Obviously one of my favorite movies, and favorite generals of all time. You’ve earned a sub. Awesome that you share the mans name! Thank you for your service.

  • @Wallyworld30
    @Wallyworld30 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I loved this movie. Thanks for finally doing a review on it!

  • @lonjohnson5161
    @lonjohnson5161 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    REVIEW SUGGESTION: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
    William Goldman claimed that he wrote this because he personally loved the source material and felt it was a story that needed telling (or something to that effect). It is my understanding that William Goldman believed he was writing an entertaining, but mostly honest story of real events. I am not only interested in how accurate is the movie to the available evidence, but how accurate the movie is in light of it being written by someone who admits that he is just a writer. My hypothesis is that an analysis of this movie may shed light on Hollywood's ability to make accurate movies, given that the writer was personally motivated to get it right.

  • @salokin3087
    @salokin3087 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Glad you covered one of my favourite films about such a flawed but interesting character!

  • @crimfan
    @crimfan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A few remarks, mostly based on Carlo d'Este's /Patton: A Genius for War/ and Lucian Truscott's /Twilight of the US Cavalry/.
    Patton being a historian. Actually he was capable of that. At least according to the biography by Carlo d'Este, probably should have been assigned to that rather than being Military Governor of Bavaria, a job he was manifestly unsuited for. Patton was very well-read on military history and made use of his knowledge of William the Conquerer's campaign during the Normandy breakout.
    Eisenhower and Patton had a very complicated relationship. They were chums when Eisenhower was junior to Patton but the sense I get is that Patton was rough as a subordinate and never really got over the fact that Bradley and Eisenhower were promoted over him.
    One thing they don't discuss in the movie was the disastrous raid Patton ordered to try to rescue his son-in-law LTC John K. Waters: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Task_Force_Baum

  • @lunacarmin
    @lunacarmin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    DUDE YOUR LAST NAME IS SUPER COOL!!

  • @andrewrivera4029
    @andrewrivera4029 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You maybe as odd as Patton! Lol! That whistle walkout was a riot!

  • @thepolishnz
    @thepolishnz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    TH-cam removing notifications again. had to click the bell again. so you know.

  • @tmr3513
    @tmr3513 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if anyone in the 998 previous comments mentioned it since I didn't take the time to read them but, Patton suggested the expanse of land west of Beaumont, California as a perfect training area for his 3rd army because it was similar to North Africa for training and the Army agreed. He then turned around and leased them the land because he owned it all. George didn't need to be in the Army he came from a very rich California family. Mt. Wilson is named after his grandfather because he owned all of it at one time. He flaunted his wealth with his custom tailored uniforms and his propensity to rent nice houses where ever he was stationed instead of living in government quarters. He was even known to forget to cash government pay checks. Half the time the signatures on the back were his wife's handwriting faking his signature.

  • @LadyTylerBioRodriguez
    @LadyTylerBioRodriguez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Great video, it's one of my favorite war films as well. Though I will say that you slightly made it sound like the Bonus Marchers incident was solely Pattons doings. He played a role but I blame Douglas McArther quite a bit for that. I might be a bit bias I admit. Had a great grandfather that might have been one of the marchers, and a grandfather who fought in the Philippines. Neither were big fans of MacArthur.

    • @CynicalHistorian
      @CynicalHistorian  6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I blame POTUS Hoover, rather than anybody commanding, but Patton brought tanks without orders. I'll be going into more depth in November in a couple episodes on veterans history

    • @LadyTylerBioRodriguez
      @LadyTylerBioRodriguez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CynicalHistorian Ah that would be wonderful. It's a somewhat forgotten part of American history and not a particularly proud one at that. I can see Hoover being at fault since he was president. Though MacArthur did defie orders from Hoover and kept attacking because he said the marchers were trying to overthrow the government for communism. Ah well keep it up, this video was high quality indeed.

    • @crimfan
      @crimfan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hoover and MacArthur, definitely. Patton was a subordinate, though as you say, he exceeded his orders. One of the leaders of the Bonus Army was a man who'd served with Patton in World War I, Joe Angelo, and indeed had saved his life, for which he'd received the DSC. This was not one of Patton's, or the US Army's finest moments.
      Getting MacArthur the heck out of Washington, D.C., in the 1930s (with a plum assignment as Field Marshal of the Philippines) was one of FDR's best moves.

    • @LadyTylerBioRodriguez
      @LadyTylerBioRodriguez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@crimfan Everything about FDRs response was superior when the incident happened again. He sent Eleanor and gave them jobs in the New Deal, plus Congress just gave them the bonus. One marchers priceless comment was, "Hoover sent the army, Roosevelt sent his wife."

    • @crimfan
      @crimfan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, Herbert Hoover is an example of how a highly competent technocrat frequently fails as a politician.

  • @winternow2242
    @winternow2242 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't think that WWII movies made in the VN war tended to glorify war. Some did, and others were critical or (more frequently) irreverent. This was the era of "Kelly's Heroes", the film version of "Catch-22", "Hell in the Pacific", "The Dirty Dozen" and "Murphy's War" - stories built on characters who were in business for themselves and often considered disposable by their superiors.
    Also, have to say that - while unintentional - Eisenhower's non-appearance makes him more compelling, because we see how other characters were shaped or directed by him.

  • @juniorthird7952
    @juniorthird7952 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why hasn't there been a recent ww2 movie about general Patton? He was ten times better than that dummy Eisenhower who got all the credit when he deserved none.

    • @CynicalHistorian
      @CynicalHistorian  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      probably because nobody wants to try outperforming George C Scott's rendition

    • @HonoredGeneral
      @HonoredGeneral 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robert Duvall played him in the '70's.."Ike:The War Years" and Tom Selleck played him in the '90's.

  • @treyward4480
    @treyward4480 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review! I saw the movie as a kid and obsessed over it for years. While I was a college student, my sister was accepted to West Point. She sent me every book she could get her hands on at the bookstore there....thePatton Papers and many others. I hate the conspiracy stuff that has been presented by some authors such as”The Unknown Patton” and “Killing Patton” to name a few. Great job!!

  • @Chriscaf24
    @Chriscaf24 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    22:00 Patton is ruined now

  • @Zulfburht
    @Zulfburht 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sounds like this movie does a good enough job at predicting the realities of war. It doesn’t glorify it, but it also shows that war is human nature.
    Even if we despise it, sometimes it’s a necessary evil for future generations to learn from. However by not teaching, and letting younger generations forget we repeat the same patterns.

  • @Bandguy333415
    @Bandguy333415 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was a fantastic trek through Patton. Love your videos.

  • @nanowithbeans2511
    @nanowithbeans2511 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    22:39 the army loves jokes between branches, and patton's speech shows it's timeless

  • @floraposteschild4184
    @floraposteschild4184 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd like to see a biopic about General Joseph Stilwell. But it probably won't happen, because he wasn't a self-dramatizer, like Patton, MacArthur and others. And, well, he's a sensitive topic in China. Not sure what the current regime's position on him is, though.

    • @bodine57
      @bodine57 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed - a fascinating, complex military figure. If anyone's interested, Barbara Tuchman's "Stilwell and the American Experience in China: 1911-1945" is tremendous.

    • @MrHockeycrack
      @MrHockeycrack 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is one of the extraordinary leaders in David Rooneys history book "Military Mavericks". Which was where a European like me came aware of him. And there are characters like Alexander the Great, Shaka Zulu, Garibaldi, Stonewall Jackson, Guderian, Patton, Wingate and Giap! Nice book, if you don't know much about those guys. Stilwell had very interesting views according to it. AFAIK there is a statue for him in China. He was a real fan of China and was even for a cooperation with Mao' s communists against Japan, and he disliked Chiang Kai-shek, so they should think high of him.

  • @Deaddirewolf42
    @Deaddirewolf42 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So my great grandfather served in Mexico with Patton. He was from the Ohio reserves not the regular army, but in my imagination, in ww2, when he sent off his sons to fight and die, he was proud of that young cavalry officer he served with.
    Thank you for this review.

  • @basicallyhell4150
    @basicallyhell4150 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can the "dress sabers" that soldier's wear imwhile in dress uniform , could they be used as actual weapons ie carbon steel not stainless steel and sharp and so on .well could it just want to know just in case a zombie apocalypse happens

    • @CynicalHistorian
      @CynicalHistorian  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      it's rather pointy at the tip, but not sharp in the slightest elsewhere. My ceremonial saber would only be able to be used as a bludgeon. A bat would be a more effective weapon, though I have used the scabbard on a number of occasions to kill spiders hiding in the corners of ceilings

    • @basicallyhell4150
      @basicallyhell4150 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CynicalHistorian i just noticed my amazing grammar

  • @pascoett
    @pascoett 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a copy of Rommels "Infanterie greift an". I don't remember reading about tanks there, it's mostly about infantry tactics and experiences made in the mountains of WW1.

  • @historyman2153
    @historyman2153 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi Cypher Thanks So Much For Making This Video My Great Uncle Fought During WW2 North Africa D-day And Western Europe He Was Also General Patton's Chef

    • @CynicalHistorian
      @CynicalHistorian  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If your great-uncle was the lead cook, Patton liked him, even wrote letters about how good the cooking was. He also fined your great-uncle a couple of times. That guy being fined in the video was a actually a depiction of him

  • @mexicanbull25
    @mexicanbull25 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr. Hall-Patton, I highly encourage you to travel to the WWII US War Monument in Luxembourg and I'm sure you'd feel a sense of pride in your family's history. I know for myself, I had only heard that Patton was buried there. It wasn't until I walked the grounds there that he had a true love for the military and his men. The guides only explain: 1. He died after the war was over in a vehicle accident en route to a hunting trip where he was invited in Bavaria. 2. His wife wanted him to be buried in the family plot in CA, but the General wanted to be buried with his men. 3. The memorial grounds development was halted to accommodate his casket's arrival there. So it wasn't until the end of the USO tour that I realized they have him buried where he is facing his men who sacrificed all to follow suit in his orders and his men are facing him; in a formation. I have a pretty good idea that he was guilt ridden in the sacrifices of his young men to their deaths (to never see their families again, to have the joy of standing in front of an alter in marriage, raising children, and feeling the embrace of their loved ones) that he refused to be buried with his family (since his men couldn't) and he would stay with them (since it the least he could do for those valiants who followed their general to the bitter end). These were the quality men he felt it was an honor and privilege to be buried next to. (Understandably, being privileged it was a familiar requirement to be buried in your family's plot was what was supposed to happen back then and breaking that had to be due to extreme necessity/issues.)
    I understand his slapping those men's faces (as you mentioned several times) being raised by somewhat out of date practices from a family with several members in or were in the military. You had to man up. As my Grandfather used to tell me, "Cowboys don't cry. If you want to cry, I'll give you something worth crying over." Also, no one really had an understanding of PTSD and its affects at that time. Hell, my family used to tell me to grow a pair, man up, as well as other questionable phrases (I don't want to repeat here) when I was first adjusting to the Infantry; even after several OEF/OIF deployments. I could see Patton doing this to help give his men a stiff upper lip/a backbone to "drive on" because it was only going to get worse, so man the "F" up (I need you and your teammates need you). He was probably dealing with his own demons that were perplexing his thoughts (i.e. seeing his Soldiers one day and gone the next or the atrocities conducted on the civilian populace hence his throwing up incident; one of the biggest nightmares of being a leader...sending your men to their deaths) and was trying to help get his men into shape to tackle these potential beasts. I understand the civilian populace getting up in arms over this. They have no idea how different the lift of a Soldier is from their own and how complexe it becomes in a time of conflict (a civilian misperception, "everyone in the world lives like me"). Hell, in my time we used to slap our own teammates if they were stunned in awe/dread/lala-land in order to bring them back to the cruel reality; a reality where losing your mind/focus (even for even the slightest minute) could cost you or your teammates lives. Everyone was needed. I'm sure he also wanted his men to continue on keeping their sights on their loyalty, duty, selfless service, honor, integrity (to others as well as themselves), and personal courage to carry on the valiant fight, hence Patton's insistent push for discipline in uniforms and hygiene (to be more than the average Soldier). That's the funny thing about history from books, it doesn't tell you the little nuances from the reality in the story (discipline, death, killing another person [with weapon or by hand], individuals giving their all to save civilians and their teammates from harm, to push onto the objective no matter how bleak the situation, and the physical/mental scars from these events).
    I honestly believe that his initial pride in himself had turned around and turned into a pride/love in his men, war will do this. I'm certain you will always find this trait in all good leaders, especially after conflict. So, live up to the name. Also, thank for the history lessons. (In a Tony the Tiger voice) "THEIR GREAT!!!"
    On a side note. Please get into the military regulation requirements when wearing the uniform. Wearing the uniform (especially in a public forum) is supposed to impose pride in the service and those those previous Soldiers who wore it before you. Otherwise, you will get all the criticism as listed below...even if they are more than likely in humor than anything else.

  • @theflaggedyoutuberii4311
    @theflaggedyoutuberii4311 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:20 was Teddy Roosevelt Jr related to the Roosevelt family as in Franklin or Teddy Roosevelt

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Teddy. He was also on the beach on D-Day, which he was given the Medal of Honor for, as well as a promotion, but he died of a heart attack before the war ended.

    • @seanobrien2760
      @seanobrien2760 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes his father was Teddy Rosevelt.

    • @HTHTucoTheRat
      @HTHTucoTheRat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As already pointed out, it was Teddy. In fact, this was actually discussed in "The Longest Day." During that movie Henry Fonda played the part of Gen Teddy Roosevelt Jr and his part in the D-Day landings.

    • @Cancoillotteman
      @Cancoillotteman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Utah beach was saved in a good part because of him, despîte a location mistake during the landing

    • @crimfan
      @crimfan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was Teddy's son, Franklin's distant cousin (like fifth or something), although a much closer one of Eleanor's.

  • @nalisaed8725
    @nalisaed8725 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Captain Patton behind that American flag is the most iconic war film scene ever.