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How do you Install a Delta Shower faucet?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ต.ค. 2020
- In this video i tackle the replacement of an old shower valve and tub. Come along while we try to bring some life back to this old bathroom. #Delta # Showerremodel #bathroom
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Great video. I am doing research to reno my bathroom and will be using a delta faucet. Very helpful and informative.
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This is such helpful and great information. Thank you for all your details and I wouldn't mind watching for an hour. :)
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Nice intro and explanation of plumbing. I climb towers and do electrical and realized plumbing isn’t as easy as I thought. Respect. Also, I have no water currently because I don’t know shit and didn’t bother to learn that Moen and Delta aren’t interchangeable 😮
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Thanks-Great video view and explanation !
Thanks hope it helped!
Amazing video thanks bro 😎
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Thx for the video big help
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It would have been a lot more work but you may have been able to run the valve assembly to the other wall so you can control the shower without being under the shower head. It's one of those you really appreciate over time.
Alot of diverters don't allow that because you need to be close to the spot for proper flow
I'm pretty sure you have to use copper to the spout for proper flow or 3/4 PEX. If the flow isn't right to the spout then it won't go to shower correctly
Delta and most others have an 18" maximum from valve to spout.....You can do things like that when you don't have a tub spout.
Yes there are several jobs we have done typically only walk in shower applications that we have installed the controls away from the water. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment and check out the channel! Take care!
There’s copper by abs or cast iron cremco , and they are in every store ,that’s the way no need to use a reducing fernco , for the seal won’t be the best .
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Love the video wish I had seen it first would have save me a hole lot of headache . My daughter an got inspired by 2 chics and a hammer since we are a mom 62 and my daughter is in her 37 now I have subscribed to you video.
Awesome! Love to hear people are getting value out of the channel and taking their repairs into their own hands. Thanks for subscribing and leaving a comment! God Bless
Just an FYI to the novice/DIYers out there....either turn the stops off (or keep the hot and cold shut off) or install the cartridge in the valve before you turn the water back on. If the cartridge is not in the valve when you turn the water back your hot water and cold water will mix together and you will over work your water heater.... especially if you leave the cartridge out (as in procrastinating) for a while.... Or someone could possibly get scalded at another fixture.
My shower/tub has dedicated ball shut off valves in the basement directly underneath the tub. I think this is the best design since it permits you to shut off the water supply to the shower/tub when the cartridge is not in place, or when changing the entire valve assembly.
Ya I would recommend installing shut offs for all your fixtures. I remember the inspector said it was over kill and not in the codes. My reply was my house I’ll install shut offs any place I like
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I wouldnt use pex for spout. Did that and created back pressure and had water coming out of ahower head. I bow use copper to shower head and spout.
Good to know, yes I believe Delta advises not to use pen if the spout is over so many inch’s away from the handle set as it will create back pressure. Honestly I have never had that issue and I know several other plumbers that still use it. Still good to know incase of problems. Thanks for sharing
I have the same faucet by delta and in the instructions they said not to use pex on the downspout . Said something about not able to handle the pressure. How long have you been using pex in the downspout area? Have you had any issues?
Yes that is true. In some situations it will cause enough back pressure to allow the shower head to drip while filling the tub. I’ve only had it happen to me one time.
My plumber changed the older style delta to a new style today, the hot water was coming out cold he expended hrs trying to make work he broke the handle then replaced then now after I close the water it leaks for a while
He also changed from copper to pvc I don’t know how long his work will last hopefully it doesn’t give me any problems
Hopeully his work holds up and you don’t have more issues. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience and leave a comment. Good luck and take care.
Did u have any issues with the handle and set screw?…
Nice video. What brand is the bathtub that you had installed? Thanks
Thanks for checking out the channel. Glad you liked the video. The brand is Bootz bath tubs
You couldn't read the box?
Why didn't you do a side cleet for the tub?
Nice video. If used for shower only application. Which way does valve go? Does up side stay that way?
Yes the “UP” side remains the “UP” side.
Another reason up is always up, in addition to what the gentleman in the video said is that way you always put the hot and cold on the correct side and the anti scald valve works correctly.
Yes just as the other person commented it is clearly stamped for up and just keep that side of the valve pointing up. also if you get tub kit but use it in a shower you just have to block off the bottom port. Thanks for taking the time to check out the channel and leave a comment!
Nice video, my delta cartridge valve instructions say not to use pex for the tub spout drop and the length must be no less than 8 inches and no longer than 18 inches. I need to place my valve higher this due other plumbing in the way. What do you think of this instruction?
Thanks
I have used pex on many of these shower valves. I know delta recommends not to use it. I have had one shower that it caused an issue of excess back pressure and caused the shower head to drip. I would say you should be fine but it is a possibility. Thanks for leaving a comment!
At about 9:30 when you’re talking about a “shark bite” are you talking about just the press by hand fit fitting? If it’s a pex crimp it should be ok, right?
What I meant was most code does not want you using shark bite push together fittings inside of walls because they are mechanical and not a permanent connection. Hope this helps thanks for checking out the channel!
how big do i make the hole for handle in the shower surround ? , the instructions don't say
the black trim ring is your template for your surround or wall . Basically the black square that snaps onto the body needs to be flush with whatever the finish wall will be and cut out the wall to fit the square and your trim ring will cover
My question is if installed right could a person make the handle on the single handle delta shower go all the way around to the point the shower won't turn off. Or could someone have installed it wrong please help dealing with a issue with a contractor. Thank you
sorry for the delayed response. It’s hard to catch every comment timely. It’s hard to say without seeing it but it sounds like a damaged valve either purchased damaged or installation damage. The valves have stops built in that allow for proper mixing and the water to be shut off. There are two ports in the back of the body where hot and cold water come in. When you first turn the handle , if properly plumbed the valve starts to uncover the first hole letting cold water in. The further you turn the valve the seats start to uncover the hole allowing hot water to start flowing into the valve. This is why it’s called a mixing valve. Depending on how you have the handle positioned is the amount of cold/hot water you are allowing into the valve. when the handle is turned to the stop position both of these inlets are covered and the water is closed off from the valve. Hope you were able to get the problem fixed and thanks for taking the time to share and leave a comment. Take care
Thought delta recommends copper to the spout due to flow can cause water to drip from shower head
You may be right. I will have to read up on that. Thanks for the info!
I have probably installed over a hundred in the last few years and I have not ran into that issue but good to know for future reference.
@@homebuilt8694 it does say it and I learned the hard way. Water was coming out of the spout and shower at the same time. Pretty sure all brands recommend copper because PEX isn't true half inch along with being a min/max distance away from spout. It's flow not pressure
Delta does recommend copper because most 1/2” Pex doesn’t have enough pressure to keep the water flowing to the shower head without dribbling out of the tub spout. My personal experience was that 1/2 “PEX-A” does have enough water pressure to keep water flowing to just the shower head. ( You can also upsize your Pex to 3/4 for the additional pressure). Once you activate the diverter to the shower head the water pressure keeps the diverter activated. When you turn water off the shower/tub diverter no longer has pressure against it so the next time you turn the water on it comes out of the tub spout. (If you have a tub spout 😊). Copper is also recommended to give structure/rigidity to the tub spout and shower head.
Be sure to follow your local plumbing codes. Many times the plumbing codes are different in each city, etc., within a county.
That’s correct, I also put in to the shower .
Hello HB ,
We have da Delta Monitor w Chrome handle
& its Leaking now after many years of service - is the most efficient way to go to Get the Cartridge Replacement & da Trim Kit to get back online w No More Leaking ?
Honestly the best way is to buy a complete new assembly, I would make sure the valve internals match yours but you will get the entire assemble a new trim kit and a spare rough in for worst case scenario. You just have to rob the bonnet nut from the new rough in. If you dont want to go that way I would just try to find any numbers you can on your valve and measure the diameter of the bonnet nut and that should get you in the right direction. Good luck and thanks for checking out the channel!
I enjoyed the video but a little bit more info on the correct spacing and how to set it up. But thanks
Noted thanks for the feedback and checking out the video
How to I get the new bonnet nut off? Tried heating. Won't budge.
I have a video on cutting it off. th-cam.com/video/meRdEynmPVo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=cS8fo5fDeXGmffhn
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it will spring leaks shoulda just used copper and welded it.
My only issue with pex is in older homes with mice they like to chew plastic
New homes can have mice too...Just sayin.
I understand. I can honestly tell you all the crawl spaces I have been in I have never seen any pex chewed on. Not saying it never happens but I would still use the product. Other materials are prone to issues also. After time copper corrodes and gets pin holes. Also copper is much more likely to bust during freezing. Pex can be frozen and be fine. CPVC gets brittle and can come unglued get sheared ect and its also plastic. I still find PEX to be the superior product. Thanks fort taking the time to leave a comment and share. Take care
I chuckled when I read your comment! Thanks for commenting. Take care!
@@homebuilt8694 just a concern as I have had plastic items chewed in my basement. Even the Tomcat bait stations
@@L2fish I understand, I’m sure it can happen . Those mice eat all kinds of things.
I will like know wy is liking in the shower had when I open the valve
Thanks for taking the time to comment and share. As the channel has grown if have started to do my voice over work to be able to give more detail while you or watching the work. At the time this was the only way I knew how to make the video. I would add in the music so there wasn’t just silence. It’s difficult to think of everything yo want to share in the process of working. Thanks for the feedback and checking out the video!
I installed mine and when I turn the water on, nothing comes out. What could be the problem?
Not sure. I would remove everything and make sure the valve is ok and doesn’t have any damage or debris in it. Also I would check the rough in and make sure there is no issues. If you tried to remove the ring with turning it off and it twisted at all the tubes in the valve can become pinched and shut off water flow. Hope you were able to get the issue resolved. Thanks for checking out the video and sharing
Once cartridge is installed, and the water to the house is turned on, my spout is wide open. Do I have to turn the water off and install the trim before turning on the water?
No it sounds like your valve is open or maybe you have the cartridge upside down . Not sure why your having that happen. Also check and see if an o o ring got cut on the cartridge
@@homebuilt8694 so basically, if the rough in valve is installed (without the trim) and the water to the house is on, there should be no water coming out the spout? If that’s the case, how would you turn it on/off once the trim is installed? Because all I see is the Hot/cold selection on the cartridge but no up/down to turn it on/off.
Disclaimer: Im a newbie 🤣 thanks for the help
@@losso__First of all lets start at square one. The brass body in the wall is considered the rough in valve. There is a test plug that comes with some kits to plug the rough in valve during install, tile work, shower install ect. The mixing valve is usually installed when the trims are. You turn off the house water, unscrew the mixing valve retainer ring and put the mixing valve in with the hot and cold adjustment on the top. Hot should be on the left cold on the right. Depending on the body you should be able to pull out on the white notched ring and turn the mixing valve dial left our right to give you more or less mixing adjustment once all the trims are on. There should be a brass lug on the front of the mixing valve that the handle attaches to. Most of the time they come with the valve turned on from the factory. you can take a pair of pliers or the handle itself and turn the valve to the off position, which is all the way to the right before you turn the water on.
@@homebuilt8694 got it to work 😩 finally. Basically you can’t turn “off” the water without the handle being installed. Thanks for the help man.
@@losso__ with the cartridge in and just the bonnet nut on you can turn water on and use pliers to shut valve stem off. You want to do this to pressure test all of your connections before tiling etc
What wasn’t covered was how far back to set that 2x4 stringer. I can’t tell if the black piece should be flush with the front, finished side of the shower or the back side.
The trim ring or mud guard, etc. front edge has to be flush with the finished wall surface. You have to plan for wallboard thickness, tile thickness and mortar thickness. Most trims will allow for a small variance of about 3/16", but you need to be close.
Just as the other person commented you want the black trim ring to be set at whatever your finished wall surface is going to be. It does not have to perfect but you want it to be in the ball park. Thanks for checking out the channel! The
Installed a delta single handle shower valve. Flooded my house. Water leaks from the WHOLE valve assembly. Tried everything. Any suggestions? I already lost my job because I couldn't fix it.
Not sure what you mean by water leaking from the valve. You could have gotten a defect vavle i suppose, but it would be highly unlikely. Without seeing it its hard to say. I usually pipe tape and pipe dope all the threaded connections. Also there are seals inside of the valve that if they were to get cut or rolled during install would cause a mess. Hate to hear about your situation. Sounds like you may have to resort to the plumber. Good luck my friend!
Sounds like you didn't install right. Check all connections especially if you seated the cartridge right and bonnet nut
I got a defective valve once several years ago. It had been returned by someone who damaged it trying to install it and then returned it making it my problem...
Sorry....I know this isn't helpful now, but for future readers....Put the cartridge in, make sure the valve is turned off, then turn on the water BEFORE putting up the sheetrock!
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What's the height for the turn valve and drop ear
For showers I usually set the valve at 44 inches and the shower head at 7 ft. For tubs usually 3ft for the valve and 7 ft for the head.
How bout water heater stub outs
@@darianjohnson6583 are you asking about the height of the water heater stub outs? I usually just cap the pipe off plenty high and when I’m ready to install my heater I cut the lines off to fit the height of the heater. I also use the flexible shark bite supplies. I should have another video up in the next two days replumbing all the water lines in the house which will include re hooking the water heater up.
A new build. Before the drywall is installed.
Why does no one say how far in you have to set this from the finished surface?!?!!
If you watch the video at 5.12 i explain delta recommends that you use the black rough in plastic flange and set the valve with the black flange snapped on. The black rough flange should be out of the wall far enough the the plastic flange is flush with the finished wall. I always place a 2x4 on edge flush in the back of the wall against the opposing rooms drywall and that is usually the right depth. Only time that does not work is on a 2x6 wall or a shower insert were the valve needs to be out further.
That's what the trim ring is for....
Do not use plex on tub spout hard to rip mine out…
Yes you are correct. Delta does not advise putting it on the spout. We have done it on showers for a long time and I have only had one shower over the years that gave us a problem. It would cause to much pressure on the spout side of the valve and cause the shower head to drip. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! Take care
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It would be great to have an hour long video in which you explain more about where to place the valve and spout. I will now have to go to a video that gives me the information that you left out. This video is only slightly helpful. I am sure if you gave more instruction this would have been a great video. The little bit of talking was great, but then at the most important parts you go silent and the creepy music comes. Please re-think your approach, I think you are skilled and intelligent, but dont know how disappointing it is that did not tell us more.
Thanks for taking the time to comment and share. As the channel has grown if have started to do my voice over work to be able to give more detail while you or watching the work. At the time this was the only way I knew how to make the video. I would add in the music so there wasn’t just silence. It’s difficult to think of everything yo want to share in the process of working. Thanks for the feedback and checking out the video!
Now the poor plumber that has a service call there for the pex crimp ring leaking is screwed, because the way you mounted the valve body , Now you would have to cut wall out to fix it. Been a master license plumber for over 20 years, seen way to many contractors that install it the same way you did. And I get calls for the crimp rings leaking and have to fix there mess. Also that tub spout will move after a little kid is playing around with it and hanging on it because the copper pipe is attached to pex, even though that little copper fastner is holding the copper pipe believe me it will break loose, once that all happens , only way to get to it is to cut wall out and now it's more work and cost customer more money, When I tell the customer there is no way of getting to the pex and I have to cut wall out , they say why and I have to explain it to them. This is why I use hard copper pipe only, and solder all the joints properly and will never have a call back, and when I do use pex I use Uponor only, but I never use pex on tub spouts or rough in valve bodies on faucets , there are some things that you just don't use pex on . Uponor does not have crimp rings that leak, and the company guarantees the pex for 25 years if your licensed through Uponor. Mounting shower or faucet valves to board and using pex is not solid at all, but when it's all hard copper in it's pretty much bullet proof. Most of the calls I get are because a contractor or handyman or even a home owner is using pex on the rough in valve body and there is some sort of leak or the spout is flapping around because the mounting bracket came off behind the surround that's holding the copper pipe nipple on the spout, once that bracket comes loose the spout will flap around and or the valve body came loose from the screws that were holding it on to a board. Once the screws come loose the pex is not strong enough and everything becomes loose .
Those shark bites type some of them are female or male I believe the water go one way of you installed the wrong way the water won’t come out I had same experience and I fixed
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You wayyyyyyyyyy over explain every detail.
Thanks! Glad you liked the video!
@@homebuilt8694 Over explaining is good. Everyone is not on the same level of expertise and some may need more instruction. I liked your video. Nice job.
You could always have just turned off the video.