If they don’t say not to use pex going to spout well why are you showing it. I’m a license and registered master plumber and you telling your followers they can do it. Your wrong
I am a do it yourselfer. I been doing projects for over 40 years. I really like all your videos, especially all the plumbing, shower, bathtub installs since it is the least of projects I've worked on. Built sheds, numerous decks with treated and composite lumber, all household projects, installing dishwashers, hot water heaters, etc. Anyway, just for reference in this video you call the tub spout/faucet a Spigot. Just for General Principle, spigots are usually designated as being outdoors or on the exterior of a house. Keep up the good work buddy and God Bless!
Hey Harry! Thanks for the info. I’m always excited to see subscribers like you that have been DIYing for awhile watching my channel. Any input is fine with me. It’s all about learning together. Good luck with the rest of your projects!
Thanks for doing this. Showed me exactly what I needed to know to do this installation. The tips on the teflon tape and joint compound were very helpful.
Hi again a great video bro! I hate to be pessimistic but a true pro learns every day new things & I hope you appreciate correcting you on some minor things that I think you could correct in the future First, from the mixing valve to the tub spout you should not use ½ pex because it is really restricting the water flow & can cause water to drip from the shower head, rather use copper or ¾ pex Second, the square plastic guard that comes with the valve should be cut out in the tub [not just the round hole] because you need access for the screws for the trim & for the small shut-off valves on the sides & lastly I would not use galvanized nippel for the stub out as the rust rather use copper or brass & again I hope you take it the right way I really enjoy watching your videos & as somebody who is in the trades appreciate when people correct me when they see that I can do something differently that's what makes us better every day Keep up with your awesome work
Question If I am converting a tub/shower combo to walk in shower, can I just cap the tub port on combo valve or do I need to change out the valve to shower only? Thanks,
@@ShootingG1 This is a late reply, but a tub functions by just pulling on the spout stop to force water to the showerhead, so when you close off that line it will just be permanently routing water to the showerhead. So, just cut it as close to the valve as you can (so you don't have funky stuff growing in that un-used line) and solder or crimp a close onto it.
Man...this kind of me confidence in a job I'm about to tackle. Wish in my area construction for bathrooms was made like this. Here, is cinder block and concrete encasing the area.
Good situational awareness; good product familarity; good speed of delivery, and easy to understan. I like it. Suggest copper tub spout drop. suggest brass nipple for tub spout connection, other wise very good, and thank you.
@@stellr Pex is too restrictive on that drop, so what can happen is, as you fill the tub, the water slowly backs up to the shower head and you will have water coming out of your showerhead while the tub fills. With copper it allows more flow and so that doesn't happen. It's really just a nuisance and not the end of the world, but people should be aware.
Just a note to people using PEX. The Delta R10000 manual says to use only copper or iron pipe to the tub spout with just one 90 degree bend. It says to NOT use pex to the tub spout. Apparently if you use pex, when you run water to the tub spout, water might come out of the showerhead. Just a heads up that that is what Delta says about pex to tub spout. You can always try pex and if water comes out the showerhead when you run the bath either live with (I mean, what's he big deal if it's your own home right?) or understand that that is probably why it's happening.
Yeah, you'll get backed up water coming out of your shower head. The valve is fed by two 1/2" pex lines and those two supply more than a 1/2" line can carry down to the tub. So, if you are filling up your tub you might notice some water coming out of your showerhead (just drips usually) while you fill it. Copper has a greated ID than pex so it can handle the flow of the valve and won't back up.
Building my own house... the construction isnt the problem. You ever find your wife at the new house yelling at you until you wanna burn the place down? just me?
Your right pex is a lot easier to work and install copper just has the long lasting if done properly... Shark bite and pex makes it more workable for labors like 🇺🇸... 😆
Yep. Delta instructions say Pex is not allowed at all for the tub spout connection and 1/2 copper should be used. I've heard people using 3/4 Pex for tub spouts and that being a decent work around though, but instructions are very clear to not use pex for tub spouts.
Pex-A has a larger internal diameter than Pex-B (B is what is used in the video). Delta recommends if you use Pex-A to the tub spout that you do NOT put in a 90 deg. fitting, but do a radius turn on the Pex. This is to avoid the water restriction that can occur. Also, in the video Josh aligns the black plastic mud ring with the back of the shower unit. For a thin shower wall with no ribbing behind it, it's not a problem, but some shower walls have considerable ribbing in the back and therefore this would not work. You would need to cut a larger hole so the mud ring can penetrate upon installation of the wall. This will also allow the trim screws to go thru, assuming you trim kit uses them. Am I right on all this, folks?
Are the Drop ears the same for the shower head, and the Spicket. If so, is it a precut galvanized(threaded on both ends) pipe you’re using for the Spicket? And what should length of Spicket pipe should be sticking out from the tile or tub surround?
The installation instructions for this valve say not to use Pex for the tub spout drop. I believe this can cause back pressure and leak out of the shower head. Was this an issue with this install?
Did you get an answer to this? I'm installing a new one right now. We did one in the basement that I assume used pex, and it does leak out of the shower head. This must be why
I just used this Delta valve in a new basement bathroom using 1/2” PEX and a drop ear to the tub Spout. And after installing the trim kit (after the tile is up) sure enough the shower head is leaking while the tub spout is on.. I would recommend using the copper! 😞
How do you keep the front doors attached when closing them? I used some heavy duty rare earth magnets installed in door edges and recessed them where they would contact each other keeping doors closed before opening. Curious if you have a better solution?
Is that a galvanized nipple for the tub spout? I've heard you should only use brass or stainless, galvanized will rust and become totally blocked over time.
I was mostly interested in the setting depth of the valve, but I think you cut the hole opening too small for the valve as you can not get the screws through for the trim plate.
NOTE: That shower valve now comes pex ready, at least for the two inlets. So buy that if you are useing pex and you won't have to thread those two connections! (But still have to use an adapter for the shower outlet).
Due to shortages and a bad Home Improvement employee I got the combo shower tub but only plan to do a walk in shower. Is it possible to cap off the tub connector?
If you only cut the hole at 2 1/4 for the valve how do you screw the escutcheon on? I just cut the same valve out and the holes for the escutcheon have the shower wall behind them like the hole isn't big enough.
Tub spout is to high also if you read the directions the line that runs to the tub spout should be copper the pex diameter is to small and will cut down water flow.
Hi 👋. Do you you have a video on how to convert the shower valves from a shower and bathtub to a stand up shower? I am trying to remodel my shower and tub to a corner shower (bathroom is super tight not much room).
I’m doing a standard shower and also a rain shower from the ceiling. Could I put a couple more elbows on what would be the tub outlet a run the pex up and over to the rain shower?
Help! I've attached SharkBite 1/2-in PEX Crimp x 1/2-in FNPT Brass Female Adapter to my Delta shower/tub valve....4 times. Every time, the hot water feed forms a drip after a few hours of opening the cutoff. The other 3 do not leak, only the hot water side. It seems to be seeping out from under the PFTE tape. Each time I switched to a new adapter, same result. I even switched out the Delta mixer. Same result. Never seen anything like it. I'll call a real plumber on Monday, but this just shouldn't be this hard. Suggestions?
I found that to be an issue when I did a delta valve. I had to increase the hot water adjuster on the center of the valve. I think it's to prevent scalding but when I turned it up all the way to allow maximum hot water to enter the valve, then the water pressure was better. I don't think that function of the valve necessary since you can adjust how hot your water gets on the water heater.
This little th-cam.com/users/postUgkxVoi3B4CB6Oygq1-vo4OTL1M_M5JkrXif tub works perfect in our 6 x 6 shower and is easy to get in and out. Also easy to drain.
@@TheExcellentLaborer I would think that if the water pressure is quite high that would be a factor in whether the water leeks from the shower head. But to be safe, id use 1/2" copper. Low water pressure, may not be a leaking issue.
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If they don’t say not to use pex going to spout well why are you showing it. I’m a license and registered master plumber and you telling your followers they can do it.
Your wrong
By using pex to spout your not diverting all the water to the shower. At least do it right.
Mounting the value to a block 1st is the trick I needed for my remodel with back access. Thank you!
Josh, you did it again. Saved me thousands by following your videos. You're the best. Thanks again!!!
You are welcome Paul! I’m just simply passing on information I have learned throughout the years. I appreciate you watching!
I am a do it yourselfer. I been doing projects for over 40 years. I really like all your videos, especially all the plumbing, shower, bathtub installs since it is the least of projects I've worked on. Built sheds, numerous decks with treated and composite lumber, all household projects, installing dishwashers, hot water heaters, etc. Anyway, just for reference in this video you call the tub spout/faucet a Spigot. Just for General Principle, spigots are usually designated as being outdoors or on the exterior of a house. Keep up the good work buddy and God Bless!
Hey Harry! Thanks for the info. I’m always excited to see subscribers like you that have been DIYing for awhile watching my channel. Any input is fine with me. It’s all about learning together. Good luck with the rest of your projects!
He gives the best explanations and instructions on TH-cam
Best explanation of how to connect these valves to PEX!! Thanks a ton!!!
Very welcome!
Thanks for doing this. Showed me exactly what I needed to know to do this installation. The tips on the teflon tape and joint compound were very helpful.
I know we all wish you were our brother/neighbor/bff 😀. But your vids are really good so thanks 👍
Appreciate it! I try to keep my videos consistent. I'm thankful for my subscribers!
Love the out-takes. You have saved me a few grand too...
Thank you! You made my day. I love knowing I help somebody save money. All I ask in return is for you to hit the like button! Thank you for watching!
Definitely keep the out-takes!
Great video - clear and right to the point.
You get extra bonus points for not having any music!!!
If only folks could follow through with the rest of the faucet install, it would be great.
Thanks for making this video! I'm in the midst of gutting and reinstalling an entire main bath and this is super helpful.
I just wanted to thank you for these videos! They help me so much! Any time I have a question w my work I’m running to your page! 💪🙌
Excellent! I’m glad I can help. I love how TH-cam has so much content that is helpful for DIYers. Thanks for watching!
Hi again a great video bro! I hate to be pessimistic but a true pro learns every day new things & I hope you appreciate correcting you on some minor things that I think you could correct in the future
First, from the mixing valve to the tub spout you should not use ½ pex because it is really restricting the water flow & can cause water to drip from the shower head, rather use copper or ¾ pex
Second, the square plastic guard that comes with the valve should be cut out in the tub [not just the round hole] because you need access for the screws for the trim & for the small shut-off valves on the sides
& lastly I would not use galvanized nippel for the stub out as the rust rather use copper or brass
& again I hope you take it the right way I really enjoy watching your videos & as somebody who is in the trades appreciate when people correct me when they see that I can do something differently that's what makes us better every day
Keep up with your awesome work
I appreciate your input. Thanks for watching!
Question
If I am converting a tub/shower combo to walk in shower, can I just cap the tub port on combo valve or do I need to change out the valve to shower only? Thanks,
@@ShootingG1 This is a late reply, but a tub functions by just pulling on the spout stop to force water to the showerhead, so when you close off that line it will just be permanently routing water to the showerhead. So, just cut it as close to the valve as you can (so you don't have funky stuff growing in that un-used line) and solder or crimp a close onto it.
Awesome awesome why can’t they all be like u seriously just straight clear and always to the dammm point!
Man...this kind of me confidence in a job I'm about to tackle. Wish in my area construction for bathrooms was made like this. Here, is cinder block and concrete encasing the area.
Just wanted to say thank you so much. Your videos have been so helpful as I have built a guest house on our property.
wonderful vid Josh !!! hope you are having a great day!!
Thanks for watching Thor! How is the old building you are working on?
@@TheExcellentLaborer 1911 ... 110 years young!! it's taking me longer to renovate that it does for you to make a whole house!!
This video was the bomb
Thank you!
Good situational awareness; good product familarity; good speed of delivery, and easy to understan. I like it. Suggest copper tub spout drop. suggest brass nipple for tub spout connection, other wise very good, and thank you.
The manual says to use a cooper tub drop. Why is that? Curious
@@stellr Pex is too restrictive on that drop, so what can happen is, as you fill the tub, the water slowly backs up to the shower head and you will have water coming out of your showerhead while the tub fills. With copper it allows more flow and so that doesn't happen. It's really just a nuisance and not the end of the world, but people should be aware.
Great video! Thanks for the help
Very well explained!!! This video gave me the info I need to properly install my shower valve. Thank you!!!
Thanks for making these videos! For the diy’er like me, so helpful!
You are welcome. I enjoy making these videos to help people. Thanks for watching!
You everything look so easy!
Thanks Noah!
The outtakes are awesome great video man thank you
Thanks brother! This was a huge help
Great! Looking forward to the next video 🇺🇸
Thanks Al! I will keep the content coming!!
Great video. Very informative. Thank you.
Good video Josh
Thanks a lot Amazing Framer!
Freaking EXCELLENT !!!!
Best informative videos ever !
Thanks so much !
Great job thank you for ur instruction
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Very good video
I think the drop to the spigot has to be copper. It has to do with the pex restriction.
Thats what I thought as well
You da Man boy
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No problem!
thank you very much great info
Great video !
Great video
Thank you.
Interesting videos my friend .
Thank you!
As a tile guy....this is very easy. Easier than i thought. Definitely not a 10 lb brain needed
Just a note to people using PEX. The Delta R10000 manual says to use only copper or iron pipe to the tub spout with just one 90 degree bend. It says to NOT use pex to the tub spout. Apparently if you use pex, when you run water to the tub spout, water might come out of the showerhead. Just a heads up that that is what Delta says about pex to tub spout. You can always try pex and if water comes out the showerhead when you run the bath either live with (I mean, what's he big deal if it's your own home right?) or understand that that is probably why it's happening.
Im pretty sure you dont have to use pipe thread compound. But thanks for vid. Its a help
You are right. You do not have to use the pipe compound. I just do it for extra security. Thanks for watching it
Better safe then sorry
Any issues with pex on tub spout instead of the recommended copper on the R 1000? Josh your a huge help thanks. Followed your way. Just wanna confirm.
Yeah, you'll get backed up water coming out of your shower head. The valve is fed by two 1/2" pex lines and those two supply more than a 1/2" line can carry down to the tub. So, if you are filling up your tub you might notice some water coming out of your showerhead (just drips usually) while you fill it. Copper has a greated ID than pex so it can handle the flow of the valve and won't back up.
Building my own house... the construction isnt the problem. You ever find your wife at the new house yelling at you until you wanna burn the place down? just me?
Any tips on house to build your own house and not get a divorce?
Not alone
how's it going 8 months later?
@@skydivingcomrade1648 Getting close to finished... floors, trim and cabinets. Still married... cant wait to get moved in
Your right pex is a lot easier to work and install copper just has the long lasting if done properly... Shark bite and pex makes it more workable for labors like 🇺🇸... 😆
Doesn't the PEX to the tub spout need to be at least 3/4 Pex OR 1/2 copper?
Yep. Delta instructions say Pex is not allowed at all for the tub spout connection and 1/2 copper should be used. I've heard people using 3/4 Pex for tub spouts and that being a decent work around though, but instructions are very clear to not use pex for tub spouts.
Yup should of used copper
Pex-A has a larger internal diameter than Pex-B (B is what is used in the video). Delta recommends if you use Pex-A to the tub spout that you do NOT put in a 90 deg. fitting, but do a radius turn on the Pex. This is to avoid the water restriction that can occur. Also, in the video Josh aligns the black plastic mud ring with the back of the shower unit. For a thin shower wall with no ribbing behind it, it's not a problem, but some shower walls have considerable ribbing in the back and therefore this would not work. You would need to cut a larger hole so the mud ring can penetrate upon installation of the wall. This will also allow the trim screws to go thru, assuming you trim kit uses them. Am I right on all this, folks?
Question
If I have an existing combo tub/shower valve, can I just cap the tub spout if I'm remodeling to walk in shower? Thanks.
@@ShootingG1 yes just cap it and water will be forced to go up to shower head.
Hey Josh, that Delta Shower manifold in your video, are you using 1/2" pex to the manifold? Can you bring 3/4" pex directly to the manifold?
Are the Drop ears the same for the shower head, and the Spicket. If so, is it a precut galvanized(threaded on both ends) pipe you’re using for the Spicket? And what should length of Spicket pipe should be sticking out from the tile or tub surround?
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The installation instructions for this valve say not to use Pex for the tub spout drop. I believe this can cause back pressure and leak out of the shower head. Was this an issue with this install?
Did you get an answer to this? I'm installing a new one right now. We did one in the basement that I assume used pex, and it does leak out of the shower head. This must be why
Anyone know ??
I just used this Delta valve in a new basement bathroom using 1/2” PEX and a drop ear to the tub Spout. And after installing the trim kit (after the tile is up) sure enough the shower head is leaking while the tub spout is on.. I would recommend using the copper! 😞
How do you keep the front doors attached when closing them?
I used some heavy duty rare earth magnets installed in door edges and recessed them where they would contact each other keeping doors closed before opening. Curious if you have a better solution?
Is that a galvanized nipple for the tub spout? I've heard you should only use brass or stainless, galvanized will rust and become totally blocked over time.
I haven’t had any options with that. It’s a nipple did have issues you could just switch it out down the road.
It's TRUE use brass or just copper.
You said stay tune for the tile installation video,Looking for the Tile shower installation video, I don’t see it in you videos?
I was mostly interested in the setting depth of the valve, but I think you cut the hole opening too small for the valve as you can not get the screws through for the trim plate.
NOTE: That shower valve now comes pex ready, at least for the two inlets. So buy that if you are useing pex and you won't have to thread those two connections! (But still have to use an adapter for the shower outlet).
Due to shortages and a bad Home Improvement employee I got the combo shower tub but only plan to do a walk in shower. Is it possible to cap off the tub connector?
Oh ok. Yes you can cap off the tub connector for the spigot. Hope that helps!
@@TheExcellentLaborer fantastic thank you! Great video btw per makes all this so friendly to DIY
If you only cut the hole at 2 1/4 for the valve how do you screw the escutcheon on? I just cut the same valve out and the holes for the escutcheon have the shower wall behind them like the hole isn't big enough.
I just done the same with a 2 1/4 hole and the trim kit holes are not visible enough to attach the faceplate. What did I do wrong? Thanks
whats better, brass or black plastic fittings ?
Tub spout is to high also if you read the directions the line that runs to the tub spout should be copper the pex diameter is to small and will cut down water flow.
Can you just cap the Faucet outlet to just use as a shower? thank you
Hi 👋. Do you you have a video on how to convert the shower valves from a shower and bathtub to a stand up shower? I am trying to remodel my shower and tub to a corner shower (bathroom is super tight not much room).
What fitting did you use on your pex for the spigot and shower head?
A drop ear. That should be available in my Amazon store.
I’m doing a standard shower and also a rain shower from the ceiling. Could I put a couple more elbows on what would be the tub outlet a run the pex up and over to the rain shower?
So whats better. The PEX x NPT female adapter or PEX x male Sweat adapter and solder into the universal shower valve?
whats wrong with getting the r10000-px valve made to connect with pex to begin with
just curious. i bought a delta shower valve and it is the anti scald. but it just barely gets warm. so odd
My only problem is the delta instruction say to NOT use pex for tub spout.
Aren’t you supposed to have a bigger hole so that the screws for the trim kit can mount into the valve bracket?
I have the same thought
Yes the thing he put behind the wall should be exposed and cut to that square.
Why didn’t you use 3/4 pex so as not to have such high pressure losses?
what about the finishing kit ?
I’m posting that video Sunday. Stay tuned!
Hey Josh - who makes the one-piece wall surround above the tub? I am having trouble finding one.
Can you do the same valve and pex fittings you got with pex a?
Help! I've attached SharkBite 1/2-in PEX Crimp x 1/2-in FNPT Brass Female Adapter to my Delta shower/tub valve....4 times. Every time, the hot water feed forms a drip after a few hours of opening the cutoff. The other 3 do not leak, only the hot water side. It seems to be seeping out from under the PFTE tape. Each time I switched to a new adapter, same result. I even switched out the Delta mixer. Same result. Never seen anything like it. I'll call a real plumber on Monday, but this just shouldn't be this hard. Suggestions?
Interesting, apparently this is not uncommon: th-cam.com/video/xTGaWbID27A/w-d-xo.html
The pressure on my spout and shower is low for delta portwood. I think it uses same valvle. Anything that I can do to increase the pressure?
I found that to be an issue when I did a delta valve. I had to increase the hot water adjuster on the center of the valve. I think it's to prevent scalding but when I turned it up all the way to allow maximum hot water to enter the valve, then the water pressure was better. I don't think that function of the valve necessary since you can adjust how hot your water gets on the water heater.
How do you keep water from coming out
I guess you didn’t cap off your water will flow out
It's a very good idea to order a Delta valve with the built in H/C shut offs for testing and future maintenance (cartridge replacement, etc.)
R10000-px is for pex. You don't need to add adaptors.
This little th-cam.com/users/postUgkxVoi3B4CB6Oygq1-vo4OTL1M_M5JkrXif tub works perfect in our 6 x 6 shower and is easy to get in and out. Also easy to drain.
you didn't really cover how you got the spigot "really solid"
Two almost identical videos, but neither show the complete installation. How about one where you show installing the cartridge, and adjusting it?
Shower tub nipple, how long need to be out of the wall ?
Dude you made a mistake. Delta says you can not use PEX going to a tub spout.
Hey Bob. They don’t recommend it but I have used PEX here and have not had issues. I would go with what delta says and not use it.
@@TheExcellentLaborer I would think that if the water pressure is quite high that would be a factor in whether the water leeks from the shower head. But to be safe, id use 1/2" copper. Low water pressure, may not be a leaking issue.
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Would have liked more measurements.
Ya why don’t you show everyone how to plumb a whole crawl and put everyone out of business👀
Stay tuned I will be plumbing a whole house with drain lines in the future. Thanks for watching!
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