Paul Ince SLAMS The Way Man City Have Been Treated By The Premier League Compared To Everton 😱
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I'm guessing someone at the premier league has had their car scratched by an Everton fan??? They seem to have a vendetta against the Toffee's!
Rules should not apply to anyone outside City
Lmao what? They broke the rules.
@TomTom-gs7wy and City haven't broken any. ...
@@rakimrobinsonMCFCit’s almost like it takes years to process a level of cheating that city had, and only takes months to punish a smaller infraction. It’s genuinely so easy to understand I don’t know why you have an issue with this
@Jack-iu5um not really. It's literally the same case UEFA brought. It's not 115 separate charges. The charges are multiplied and stacked. There is no actual evidence. It's mostly supposition. Seeing as though the sponsorship accusations Etihad is going public with its accounts, the whole case is going to crumble, It makes you wonder how did they come up with the charges without any physical evidence. Oh and because it's stacked, it's not disprove 1 you have 114 more to disprove, it's disprove 1 and the entire structure of the charges collapse.
PL is becoming a JOKE now
Its been a joke, all hollywood scripted, open ya eyes folks, VAR is a perfect example, n they still get it wrong, so the big question is whose really controlling things, the bookies ? Oops😮😮😮
"becoming' they are a joke and that's polite.
Only now?been a joke for years.
its only becoming a joke now that its hitting premier league clubs, its been happening in the championship for the last 10 years, everton need to get over it ,they broke the rules now take the punishment
- LiVARpool caught Hacking
- LiVARpool not considered Cheats
- City found Not Guilty in Court
- City are considered Cheats
- PL/Establishment is Not Corrupt?🤣
8 points for the price of an average midfielder is an absolute joke. Everton have been operating under premier league sanctions for the last couple of seasons, so any perceived sporting advantage has been more than balanced out by that. There is no club in Europe more persecuted than Everton, its utter corruption of the highest order.
Reeks of curruption, pure bulls,,,t
- LiVARpool caught Hacking,not considered Cheats
- Everton admit to Cheating,not considered Cheats
- City found Not Guilty in Court,considered Cheats?🤣
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings City were found guilty and expelled from UEFA competitions. City appealed to CAS on the grounds that the evidence submitted was time barred - they are still guilty, the got off on a technicality. No such time limits apply to the EPL.
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings if they were found "not guilty", why did they get fined?
@@callummcintyre713why not go and have a read instead of spouting pointless rhetorical questions thinking you’re sounding smart when you really aren’t 😂
@@sidbob1215 just finished reading, it's actually better than I was arguing.
Cas made it clear that UEFAs charges against MCFC weren't frivolous and, they were guilty however, FFP charges need to be made within five years so, the cases with hard evidence were "time barred".
The remaining cases however, only had circumstantial evidence. So, they were acquitted on those, which isn't a "not guilty" verdict.
Lose the emoji's by the way, they just make you look a pillock.
Biggest scandal is that Everton have spent nearlly 900 million and are shite
DH
As per Everton, remember FFP is on a 3-year rolling basis and their 1st deduction was based on 2 years ago while the most recent is based on the most recent year that just closed in which they breached FFP again and hence the 2-points. I think the whole thing is a shambles and without an actual framework for punishment, it makes everything look very suspicious as per the Everton fans' rightful perspective for asking questions. I think the PL have shot themselves in the foot with this by not being transparent with their reasons why a punishment is given and to what degree. A framework would solve a lot of it, yet they (all the PL teams) seem not to be interested in doing so otherwise, it would have been done.
Mate you’re wasting your time, even if Man City get found not guilty, ( and I think they will ) they will all still say it’s corrupt and they paid them off , it is the only way they could justify the fact that city has took over Liverpool and United on the field , their world is shattered and in tatters at the moment because they can’t understand why their domination has come to an end. Manchester City can’t win in this , it is better just to laugh at them as they clutch at straws whilst disappearing down the rabbit hole typing 115 115 😂😂😂
In the Everton case the PL keep rushing into one mistake after the next. They wanted to hit the club with 17 points deduction to relegate them. That would have illustrated to the Government they can run their own house without outside interference. The PL didn't bank on an appeal panel finding their recomendation to be illegal. Now they rush through a second deduction against Everton desperate to avoid the season ending with unresolved appeals. In doing so the panel on this current case couldn't agree with the PL viewpoint on some parts of this hearing because the PL didn't give them enough time to hear the case. So it would appear Everton will have another deduction next season or whenever they return to the Premier League. Teams like Luton might have something to say about that. This whole process gets more amd more messy for Masters and his cronies. What have they got hidden that is so damning to keep the eyes of the government out so desperately.
They will lose control to independent regulators when City embarass them in court. That's what you get for listening to fans and influences with obvious agendas.
did not see this coming from the ex-United player. Truly remarkable.
Lol and the rest of the world. Apart from the 100 man city fans
@Johnnyquid20 wrong and strong. Does the rest of the world have some information City fans don't? . This isn't ancient Rome numbers mean nothing without proof. The rest of the world causing the league to embarrass themselves.
I'm not man u or man City but as a neutral city need punished over their hundreds of breaches. Total corruption
we're all thinking it
He`s not the sharpest is he.
Why’s nobody talking about the fact that Manchester United have been charged and fined for breaking FFP rules this season. The same way that Arsenal and Newcastle in the signings of players on loan with a 12 month buyout clause is a joke to get around the FFP rules. Everton were constantly advised by the league that they were in a position to be in trouble and they still signed players who were influential in them avoiding relegation.
who? Neal Maupay was the only player brought in the summer of 2022-23.
He was instrumental in Putting Everton in the relagation battle with 1 goal in 35 games.
Everton were forced to sell Digne Richarlison and Gordon under market value by the PL.
You dont have the facts, you're just talking.
United breach was of uefa rules not premier league
The Premier League allowed Spurs to waive the stadium costs as regards PSR, but are holding Everton to account for the very same thing.
They (The PL) also changed the rules at the start of the season, in response to the clubs threatening legal action, which is how they have managed to charge Everton twice in one season.
The PL (over the two charges) recommended Everton be deducted 17 points total...
The rules will change again next season and will probably mean a financial sanction is the appropriate punishment.
Which will suit City and Chelsea (probably Newcastle too) fine.
It's clear the Masters bets on Everton getting relagated every season.
Yeh, coincidentally the PSR rules r being hastily scrapped just B4 Cheaty r tried so it'll be a luxury tax instead of deductions.
Cheaty cud commit 700 breaches an get little more than luxury tax on players wages ; they'll b charged ONLY on new system unlike Forest and Everton who were charged under old system alone...
Get rid of FFP.
But City. If everyone suffers enough maybe you can get City...then reset the rules. The rules are working why Change it?
@@rakimrobinsonMCFC I support City to start with mate. I have from the start always been against FFP. FFP needs to go.
@@TheBillABCTV it was sarcasm.
@@TheBillABCTVFFP needs to go…along with City’s inflated income.
@@DB-07 I am fine with City and I hope City win their case against the EPL.
It's beyond scandalous!
The reason that the PL isn’t publishing a table of penalties for the degrees of overspend is because each case of overspending will be different. Some will have mitigating circumstances, others won’t.
If for instance a club overspends by £10m more than the allowed and is a genuine oversight, should that be the same penalty as a club overspending by £5m that does it intentionally?
The intentional overspend is a smaller amount but the intention is different.
In City’s case, they have 115 charges to answer. Everton had a small number and it still took two seasons for it to be sanctioned. It’s clear that the greater the number of charges, the longer the timeframe to punish.
I don’t think the PL are trying to protect City at all. If they got immediately relegated due to the sanctions and had to sell all of their players, the Premier League won’t notice their absence. They have a tiny fan base. The plastics would soon move to another team.
In all fairness new ownership at Chelsea self reported to UEFA and the Premiere league issues they found in the books from prior ownership. Lumping them in with Man City and the approach MC has taken to drag out their situation ( probably until Pep leaves) is not correct. The two are different situations completely.
How is it different? Chelsea still benefitted from previous owner. The charges are against the club not owner.
Can't lump with City and the rest. There's actual proof against the rest. There is no proof for City. Accusations alone will get you no where.
MCFC are not 'dragging out their situation'. The onus is on the PL to present the evidence!
@@Esx1961 mate, it’s been openly reported man city keep pushing it back. Only reason they got out of the uefa charges is because of the 5 year time bar. And they could push it past that. (Not prove innocence)….. this is very common knowledge. Take the blue moon tinted glasses off and real the articles reporting on the case. If you’re fluent in English you’ll see it very clearly. It’s no secret city have been intentionally delaying it.
@@Esx1961 and man city as well to provide the evidence😂
Everton and Notts Forest both punished Man City still marching on - utter lunacy. Add to this VAR and LFC getting screwed at Spurs et al. Frankly at 65 and having been born and raised in Wembley football has been a mainstay in my life. Now, I have lost all faith in the sport. I could add all of FIFA's corruption the game is ruined. Time for a change and a new passion.
Victims
Exactly, modern football is full of corruption. Bring back the old days when teams weren't buying promotions (*cough*)
Because Everton and Forrest cases are factual. It was simple maths. They have no evidence against City.
they’ve already explained forest got less points deducted because they addmitted straight away and everton didn’t. it’s been spoke about on talksport andy 😂
Also Everton sought advice prior to the deadline and ignored it. Bang to rights.
Two charges in one season because...?
Exactly what i was thinking. What is the point of inviting experts to explain it to you just to ignore everything they said and suggest corruption...
And City cooked the books and covered it up for over a decade and the only reason it got out was because they got hacked and leaked. What should their punishment be, including the 115 ffp.
115 charges and still walking around smiling !? Those brown envelopes must've been full ?
Or empty
You sound upset. Evidence ?
smiling and living our best life !! only the second team in history to have a english treble since the sport was invented !! lets goooo
@@michellemaggs75 115 charges seems pretty bad not like 1 or 2 charges. Throw the book at man cheaty
@@geoffbutler2893Emotional arguments don't count. Evidence? You haven't got any except hearsay.
Will Man city lose some of there league titles
no
Nope......but the FA are going to get brutally exposed by City's lawyers' department for their corruption which could well lead to the FA getting disbanded
Never- they are beyond laws
@sabinasabina2010 the PL has no evidence.
Everton's mistake was owning up to it and not having so many charges against them like City, which will take so long to get through that Hell would of frozen over by then.
I think breaking the rules is where they went wrong. That shouldn't be dependent on another team. Accusations and proof are too different things.
Actually, Everton lost two more points than forest in the first charge for not owning up initially.
Find me guilty.thats the top and bottom of it ... Jesus h Christ,no wonder people are getting convicted in a court of law on it could be true . I've done jury service twice and hopefully never again.. it's all about if you throw enough muck it might stick.. city haven't been convicted yet..
Like ManCheaty 115+ they should not have owned up and not cooperated
@jonathankennedy1715 why own up to something you haven't done?
Has Andy goldstein done any research at all... the judgments were released which tell you why the points deductions were given and the reductions for mitigating factors
I don't understand why people can't understand the sheer scale and complexity of the Man City case means it can't be resolved quickly in regards to Everton who essentially admitted guilt with their own evidence. The Man City case is proving fraud, embezzlement and false accounting etc. Consider the punishment of Everton in regards to the clubs who got relegated last season, who suffered more? Consistency over punishment could be argued could be better and better framework of reference could be instilled but this level of outcry is mental.
They should take points start of season and that's ur lot if more points to be taken then that's to be start of next season... Never during or after
paul ince forgot about one charge for m city there 🤣 its actually115 charges paul clearly its taking longer because the complexity of what city are being accused of doing is way more complicated than the everton and forest situations tho both of them clubs admitted they broke the rules no way are city going to do that with the 115 charges hanging over them because the punishnent would be far worse than a points deduction however it is annoying how long long it is taking 🤔
Paul Ince & all those like him can slam all they like. The fact remains , City has won a lot and shattered all kinds of records. The rich sheikh liked us over you! . Envy will shorten your lives.
U can wake up now, the TwilightZone of u mind is on a coffee break at the moment; Cheaty have BOUGHT alot of honours an r no more than a small-time hoodlum of a club with a Kings ransom behind them
Cheaty r not even the biggest club in Manchester let alone the world an will ALWAYS be in the shadows of Pu-nited global brand no matter HOW much corruption they spew out.
No, I'm not a fan of the Devils etc
Cheaty hav only equalled what Pu-nited have in BUYING the treble an once Mr Fraud-iola leaves , they'll revert back into Chelsea an their current form
At the end of the day you’ve spent far more than Forest. Their threshold was a lot lower due to the two years in the Championship. Let’s be honest for over a decade now you’ve recklessly spent. It’s been coming.
It was for around five years and the rest of the time we've spent scraping by.
We have been one of the lowest spenders in the premier league for about 3 seasons now.
Another clueless poster who just reads the headlines and not the rest , one of the lowest spenders last 5yrs
Mr ince needs to get back in his box he knows as much as I do about this ffp
Why don't the league officials should jump on man shity 115 faults and still have not been fined and points deduction why don't they can not understand it
What rules? The same ones Chelsea are abiding by?
It does make me chuckle when I see the non-Mancunian United fans who couldn’t point Manchester out on a map let alone old Trafford calling City fans glory hunters 😂😂😂😂
Because they all from Asia
Not many of your lot know where Maine road was 😂😂
Yeah that’s the main point we should all take from this video.
You just described the majority of the fanbase. But it's alot of them so it's ok
Stockport crowd out in force all 10 of them.
Nothing on the fact premier league changed rules mid process with Everton.
Nothing on the fact they did that to city as well.
Understand the injustice but what the PL are alleging are also suggesting Executives, investors, financial ppl committing fraud. Proving that would be jail for ppl that's how insane what PL is doing
They have signed off on the last 3 years worth of transfers for Everton. Lost money on Richarlison Digne Gordon due to forced sales.
Everton have given them their books while City wont even return their Emails.
@@shadow_realm47 Last time they sent their emails they came back doctored from bent eufa.
There’s no justification that Everton can be deducted points for two season’s financial errors in one year. Yet Chelsea who self reported on years of errors uncovered by the new owners hasn’t yet even been addressed ?
The shitty issue has been going on for years and behind closed doors!
What happens when the rules change?
A precedent for punishment was set when they allowed the Scabby 666 to get free! Sours a top 666 side? intended!
This stadium will generate North Liverpool! I have personally seen an agenda like this since Thatcher degenerated Liverpool in the 1980s!
Seems the rich clubs have a different system judging them. The premier league is losing respect for the Man City non action, be consistent and deal with it
Imagine being santioned for breaking FFP Rules for over spending on total dross and also fighting a relegation battle four years in a row. I mean, talk about being mismanaged.
United spent 2 billion won 1 carabao cup and are a midtable team with the most expensive squad in the league. Just perfect under FFP. Apart from getting City. How does it benefit the league?
And cheats are good for the league?
@DB-07 who United, liverpool, Chelsea, everton, Forrest, Leicester etc?. Get rid of them all. City have never been found to be cheating or guilty of any breaches EVER.
I’m glad someone’s finally calling out City. The reason however that Everton and Forest are being dealt with quicker is because it’s one charge compared to 115. Plus City are refusing to cooperate, compared to Everton. Everton have however broken the rules and lost a fortune, so they shouldn’t go unpunished.
It's a bit simpler than that Everton admitted guilt City say adamantly they are not? Also the charges are not the same. Red American Cartel stitch up. Oh and they'd like to change it all now because they'd like to spend more? 😂
City's lawyers must have sore tongues with the amout of brown envelopes they've been licking😂
Few times you've said that now chill out lad
Long going investigation of 115 charges.
@@craigmullen9046 I understand that, but does it not seem like they're punishing Everton one charge at a time? Surely out of 115 charges there's one or two that can be dealt with now
@@KakascrotWell what's the point of that. They need to do it in one big swoop. If City are guilty!!!
@@Kakascrotthe difference is Everton said they were guilty, Man City on the other hand are denying everything
The problem is man city have denied the charges Everton and others have admitted culpability that’s the difference
What about Scamchester City?????115
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From a neutral’s point of view, disappointing that it’s just 2 points. Another 6 points deduction would have been great.
Everton would now be sitting 2 points below Luton and Forest, third from bottom, but with a game in hand. What a relegation fight we’d have had on our hands - with Everton still having both Luton and Forest to play!
As it is, with just a 2 point deduction, Everton to stay up easily. Luton and Forest to fight it out to the last day of the season when:
Luton host Fulham. Forest away to Burnley. Likely to go down to the wire.
115 and tge var decisions that have favoured them over Liverpool and now arsenal in recent years is disgusting
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This is the most embarrassing post I’ve seen in about 12 hours and there has been hundreds. Some achievement.
What a plant pot
What about utd
Expecting a lot more from TalkSport pundits/ ex-players/ experts. TS seems to speak very little and or give more a detailed insight on MC and their charges. Disagree that FFP is system in place to prevent clubs getting into financial trouble. I don’t see how deducting points helps. It makes the club less attractive for players to play for or join.
Goldstein eluded to MC and goaded Ince into saying their name. Ince you won’t be welcomed back mate.
Every single Premier League Club are signed up to the ffp rules. That means they agree that they are good and necessary. Therefore, going on to break them is unacceptable. End of.
Could Andy explain one point? He doesn’t care why the rules were broken - player spend or stadium. Only asking because if any team wants a new stadium, are they to basically have the cash in the bank first? That would never happen in real life. So no team would ever improve their place if stuck in a stadium as old as Goodson. We all can’t be given stadiums on the cheap, Man City and West Ham in mind. Did those two teams not get a sporting advantage by not having to spend large amounts on building costs so money could be spent on players? Sure Arsenal, Spurs, Sunderland, Brentford and all recent moved teams would agree!
155 charges need to be heard sooner the better or the rest of premier teams should strike
Well if Everton built a new stadium for the prem league maybe they could build one for Man United
And City cooked the books and covered it up for over a decade and the only reason it got out was because they got hacked and leaked. What should their punishment be, including the 115 ffp.
Everton have actually been let off. They were deducted 10 points but because the FA knew there was going to be more points deducted they gave them 4 points back to cover for the future deduction. No agenda against Everton because they should actually have a total of 12 points deducted
Incorrect. The appeal determined that as, Administration only yields a 9 point sanction, that 10 was too high.
The PL recommended 12 points for the first charge.
5 for this one, nothing to do with the FA, the independent commissions have effectively saved Everton from the PL.
That's why i stop watching EPL corruption all over
There's no clarity and fairness that's why it looks very bad and biased. If it was at beginning of the season, we can understand but out of nowhere like that, just no. Bayern, Real, Barca, City, Chelsea and Utd never got a positive net spend in the last 7 years but nothing happened to them. Either wages or transfers.
Punishing Forrest and Everton but what about non cooperating ManCheaty 115+ ?
Leicester aswell are getting away with ...
Maybe because the pl bit off way more than they can chew and have to have the time to sort things out before absolutely getting smashed at the trial.
Multi million pound organisations like Everton, Forest and Prem league can also afford top lawyers like City. If Cities charges are so clear and obvious it would not need expensive lawyers to prove them. Its a stupid statement about the affordability of top lawyers etc.
Feel sorry for Everton the premier league is a joke iam a city fan if we are found guilty we should take it on the chin but if found innocent we should take them to the cleaners its become a joke just like the game killer var ctid 😮
They shouldn't be complaining. Lucky to only get a collective 8 point deduction.
Everton did they over spent by £250m
£105 is the limit but Everton spent another £250m on top of that
That's would be £255 million then.
Overspend in first instance was £19 million and on the second £16 million, care to explain your figures?
@@ianphillips9455 it wasn’t they overspent by £250m
The prem helped them sort things out by over spending slightly ..
They then bought 2 players in the January when the prem were trying to help them out ..
look at how much they over spent ..
Simon Jordan has explained it on talk sport look it up
@@ianphillips9455 they had losses over 3 yrs of £371.8 which was £250m over the £105m allowed .
Yes the prem supported them with the lenience of the £250m
But they then went over by a further £19.5m
@@ianphillips9455 look it up on university of Liverpool . They borrowed money of the owner for £200m
Pl and f.a are currupt just like alot of football associations around the world yet they have the audacity to fine or punish clubs. Why give them a further points deduction towards the end of the season. More sense would be to do it for next season. It's like they are trying to get gem relegated
No one can bring a show to a halt like Goldstein.
Because Everton lied to the premier league! forest got 4 because they Co operated. Was originally 6 reduced to 2 for Co-operation. Everton are facing a third PSR charge but will get punished for that this year due to interest payments on the stadium and the premier league have said they would not be able to conclude this in time before the end of the season. “Forest Gained a sporting advantage” how?! The amount Forest could spend was less, because of the 2 years in the championship. Forest were at a disadvantaged from their promotion and favourites to go down! We sold Johnson 3 months after June 1st, he played 3 games. So we breached for a total of 3 months. Everton’s has gone on for years with a higher amount to spend. Hope this helps.
Money talks the rich 🤑 get richer
They changed the rules about the stadium counting halfway through the review process. They are corrupt.
Sporting advantage should be taken into account if there is a sporting advantage - City have one from their breaches, Everton and Forest have gained nothing from the overspends
The Premier League and their commissions must now show, with their handling of the Chelsea and Manchester City cases, that they are worthy of any respect and not deemed corrupt!
So accordingly, for being fair, impartial and trustworthy, Chelsea must get very heavy points deduction, if not outright relegation to Championship; and Manchester City must be relegated straight to League One or League Two.
The whole football world are watching and waiting.
God I can't wait for your tears when we are cleared of all charges
Everton blaming City for breaking the rules? How is spending money you dont suppose to not gaining advantage of others?
Who has blamed city. Making a comparison is not blaming.
Everton agreed to these rules as did everyother premier league club and Everton & Notts forest admitted they were guilty of breaking these rules.. Cmon City 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😃😃😃
Everton Delayed there First breach so they didnt get hit with points a year ago, because they new they would have been relagated.
It’s baffling
City? Always room for more midfielders, I guess - not included in the FFP?
The rest of the teams in the league should refuse to play matches against MC until their case is done. Let them pick up their points, they’ll lose revenue quickly.
How does this even make sense to you
I wont mind winning this season and next by forfeit, you guys do that and also don't spend any money cause how can you spend money when you win nothing? Those rules need to be checked.
Calm down Paul your eyes are flying in different directions
Its just blatantly obvious now that city are getting special treatment,,,, theres no other explanation
The FA just hate the City of Liverpool in general
This is just a nonsense I'm a city fan, why do Everton fans go after city, we are not the people doing this to them, i think this is , degusting ,the EPL are bent
Because apparently in the premier league winning leagues and making top 4 consistently means nothing.
Just go back to the old days at let teams spend what they like cos when they get caught cheating the fans don't like it
It's a spitting penalty
Bravo
What’s embarrassing is how little the host of a national radio station knows about the subject he’s discussing🤦🏻♂️ the Everton fans just have a victim mentality
Nothing done to man City with 115 rule breaches 😊
I actually think Everton got off lightly. They've been charged for breaching the rules for two seasons - the first breach they got 10 points deducted and reduced to six points. I would have thought they reduced it because they wanted to put back those four points in this deduction but instead it was two points. In my mind, they won two points.
Cus you are a fool, with all due disrespect. Forrest got fined less for a more severe breach.
And Everton had mitigating circumstance for the first breach yet they were not given a proper hearing, just fined unilaterally.
The same thing happened this time. No hearing, just docked points and dropped from lower midtable to relegation dogfight.
Again. Twice in one season.
City should have been deducted points by now by the Prem doesn’t matter about Uefa charges Prem is it’s own entity. Just shows the level of corruption it’s nuts. People need to revolt over this.
Why? Everton admitted guilt. City contest it, on what planet does that mean city should have been deducted points? What is wrong with you?
Can't deduct on something unproven. I know the unproven part is confusing you all. Nothing City presented shows any breaches. I'm very interested to know how the league plans to actually prove their accusations.
What about Arsenal spending a billion for the community shield, Man Utd's billion for Ten Hag football? Or are we protecting these teams?
Thick as 2 short planks.
@@rakimrobinsonMCFCand why did city fail to prevent paperwork about their finances season upon season? Is it because they have nothing to hide….probably not
Video does not match the Header... 20 clubs make up the premier league and the question has to be... is the PL competent?? How many years to bring the charges against City... the serious charges are pretty much the same charges UEFA brought and we know how that ended... Kangaroo court, then when it was put in a proper court... no evidence! Premier League only brought the 115 charges under pressure... obviously no evidence or it would have been heard long ago!
Now we have a situation where the rules brought in by fools... are pretty much restricting every club... January transfer window or should I say Loan window.... Either clubs are caught in the overspend or cannot buy because they would be in overspend! The clubs caught in it are then forced to sell the academy players!
The PL could not have made a bigger mess and when you drill down, this started as trying to stop over borrowing and long term debt and remarkably (Spurs & Man Utd) turned it into a rule by where your revenue governed your spend... so no matter a club owners wealth, he cannot spend his own money whilst some clubs are a billion in debt, but can spend as they have high revenues!
Now as a City fan you may think I'd have a problem with it... but all I ask is put City to one side and tell me FFP/PSR is good for the other PL clubs, it simply is not... the question is always.... but what about City... and I understand that... But lets say... what you hope happens and we are put in the conference.... that still leaves you with this FFP/PSR and it is not going away, only getting worse... and my last point! Remember City have consistently voted against these FFP/PSR rules as they knew what would happen and exactly that has happened and people still want to slag City off... Had you followed and voted with City, there would be no Everton, NF, Aston Villa, Newcastle and many other clubs strapped and punished by FFP/PSR....
Turkeys voting for Christmas!!
The Sheikhs pulling em strings !
One piece is real
@@alexandergeorgiev74 ?
@@KaidenKnox11 the one piece is real
Your logo dude is from one piece 🧩
@@alexandergeorgiev74I know, but wrong place.
Pointless trying to explain these legal things to football supporters most of the words are bigger than four letters😂
Facts!
But City?
@@WhyAlwaysMeMariocongrats…a five letter word.
Two completely different and very different cases.
Only idiots will compare the two.
City should be stripped off their title and send them to league 2...This is worse thab the Juve scandal..m
There is NO rules.
So it’s high time
Fan power came to the forefront to show these jumped up FA executives just who controls football, A fans united protest against these ridiculous points deductions and made up FFP rules that favour some clubs over others. We are sick of this now. What kind of protest would make them open their eyes to the damage they are doing to not only fans hearts but their mind health. This system stinks and needs to be stamped on now. Maybe if we could get every premier league and Championship fan to boycott one game to start with they might see this for what it is, a joke !!!
What about city 200 point deduction
How much over the limit has the likes of Man City and other clubs over spent then?
City have never breached or gone over the limit. It has the most to spend under FFP now.
@@rakimrobinsonMCFCif you don’t understand why they’ve been charged then just stop commenting…seriously. They’re being charged for cooking the books over 8 or so years…not because they apparently don’t overspend at present.
I cant stand everton, however this is bang out of order. Cuty and chelc can do what they want.
Oh the what about City brigade 😅
"Listen, I don’t know enough technicality.” And then continues to give an opinion on a subject matter he knows next to nothing about. Pretty much sums up the social media world we live in now.
I don’t think anyone knows the complete ins and outs but we can sure as hell judge a team built artificially through a mass cash injection that have 115 charges suggested against them.
Internet fans are financial football experts but can’t tell the difference between your end of year books not meeting the criteria and what City are accused of lol
You’ve just gotta laugh mate, usual plastics needing an excuse as to why they’ve fallen short 😂
The point the caller's making is that if Everton gain an unfair advantage on the pitch, the penalty should affect their future on the pitch, i.e. a points deduction. But if the advantage gained is around their expected future income, then the penalty should affect their future income, i.e. a financial sanction. You don't need technical knowledge to make that argument.
@Mrwoss57 not 115 different charges. They're built ontop of one another and multiplied over years. So disprove one the whole case falls apart. VERY different from disprove one you have 114 more like what the general public thinks.
@@Mrwoss57 what teams aren’t built with cash injections? lol
Bit of a nothing salty point there.
I don't understand how Everton get the points deducted when Man City's charges are far more severe. Because of the severity Man City's fate should take priority. Otherwise they could win another Premier League title which should have gone to Arsenal or Liverpool based on fair competition financially and sportsmanship.
When everyone understands the football governing body works the same as big pharma and the healthcare sector and in fact our government then this will be less surprising and expected. Ignorance isn’t bliss
Everyones on the take
How is a conversation about everton suddenly about our City. The hate is real
Lol what?
City's fans like how dare you we did nothing all we did was cook the books spent a bil on players they never had to get the squad together to win trophy how dare anyone question that 😂😂😂😂
The FA as an organisation & not absolutely not transparent . REGARDLESS Of which Team , they should never ever be Favouratisum . FA appears to be focus on certain Teams already establishing that the Teams reconises they are incompetent within certain areas surrounding FFP RULES & FA CAPATILISE ON THIS . However MAN City , Chelsea, They Should MEVER EVER BE DISCRIMINATION, INTIMIDATION TOWARDS CERTAIN TEAMS . AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHICH IS PLAYED OUT BY THE FA . SIMPLY BECAUSE THE FA HAS BEEN RELUCTANT IN ADDRESSING CHELSEA & MAN CITY UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF FAIRNESS WHICH ALL TEAMS HAS TO ABIDE AND NOT FOCUS ON THE ALLEGED SMALL TEAM WHEREBY YOU CAN INTIMIDATE .
D oes the size of the team and their success mean anything?
If you owe the bank 5 million dollars the bank owns you. If you owe the bank 500 million you own them.
City wont get done 'til they've won the league 10 times in a row and the champions league 6 time s, then they'll get a 3 point deduction suspended for a season.