Keith Appleton used ptfe yarn in a recent video he doesn't like the modern graphited yarn. Might be worth asking his opinion. Thanks for another great video!
You can buy graphite in a little puffer pack to use as a lubricant for locks and keys, works great cheap as chips, better than butchering expensive drawing pencils. MoS2 also works well! Stavros
You are absolutely right about the height of the of the hole for the piston rod. On the S50 that I rebuilt and repaired the slide head was binding as it approached the cylinder assembly. I need to make that adjustment. Good catch! I am enjoying this series.
Outstanding model engineering, I learned a lot Ade, many thanks! On the gland packing, Keith Appleton always swore by old graphited yarn, and lamented the poor performance of the modern stuff. But he has recently shown the use of PTFE coated packing yarn which he has had success with. So maybe look carefully and see if what you have with your kit might be PTFE coated. If it is, it might be well worth a try before trying to make your own graphited substitute.
Nice one Ade, always good to watch and hear your thought processes as you make the part. Bloody drawings ought to be in imperial decimals instead of fractions. Converting is a pain even if you are reading a chart and can undoubtedly lead to balls ups and having to start again. I think I'd make photocopies of the plans and do individual sheets for each part dimensioned in decimal in red ink to prevent the **** ups!
I have done a chart that I need to laminate and get put on the wall behind the mill. keep forgetting to actually do it . time in the shed is more fun . Cheers Ade.
Hi Ade, an alternative to using graphite yarn would be to use a silicon O ring, although not purist its a thought. I'll be very interested to see how you align the piston rod into the crosshead... Thanks for a enjoyable video..
Great video as usual ADE. I was think the same as you with the con rod a shrink fit on the pin & the friction in the Brass. I guess the thinking is , it's just a model & will not run much.
A tricky job nicely done. The gland packing usually already has the graphite in it usually evident by it being a gray colour, if it's white in colour it could be PTFE filled, I've got both. I've used PTFE tape on my traction engine valve rod and it's been fine, needs allot more packing in though.
Hi Nigel. It seems to be blue in colour . great idea with the PTFE. I will try some soft pencil filings packed into it. and try the PTFE as well as an option . Cheers Ade.
My 10H came with graphite in it already, I imagine yours will too. One idea for making the graphite might be to use 0.5mm or even 3mm mechanical pencil leads rather than a plain pencil, and to crush with a mortar and pestle. Having next to no experience with graphite, I'd probably want to try a softer lead, 2B, 4B or 6B. I understand locksmiths also use powdered graphite, so maybe that's another idea? Have a good one!
The graphite in pencils are hardened with clay. The harder the pencil, the more clay in the graphite. So a softer pencil should be better if that’s what you’re using. Otherwise, graphite can be quite hard if compressed into bars, such as those in the silver recovery’s in my film lab.
I'm not sure the extra height on the top lip is a good idea. It's a long way for the oil to climb and it gives more opportunity for misalignment. But, as you say, you can always take it off.
It seemed to work out OK but if I were to do it again I may agree with you. It was a bugger to get the slide rails lined up. They do seem to stay wet when running though . Happy New Year from one old bloke to another. Cheers Ade.
It will be on air mostly . I may make a boiler going forwards but this engine will probably run slow and end up as an ornament for most of its life . I am trying to stick to traditional though and I really would like to run it on steam at least once. The temptation to rev it up will always be there when it has run for a while . excited to get the fitting up done soon . Cheers Ade.
Nice little piece You finally got. Why didn't You show it being in the place where it will do its job? Long video..... More "information" than chips this time. Anyway, well done!
@@ade63dug Thanks Ade. It’s so easy to loose track of from whom, or where tools etc have been bought from. I’ll have a rummage online and see if I can spot them. Looking forward to the next instalment of your build. Entertaining and inspirational so far. 👏👏👍😀
That was great. You have a knack of making the complex straightforward and easily digestible. That is a rare skill.
Great start to the day, waking up to Ade's workshop.
Great work as usual I love to watch you improvise.
I am now the proud owner of a Pratt & Whitney 12 X 30 model B LATHE. Circa 1942-ish
Keith Appleton used ptfe yarn in a recent video he doesn't like the modern graphited yarn. Might be worth asking his opinion.
Thanks for another great video!
Phew! I'm exhausted just watching. Thanks Ade.
Yep, powdered graphite from a locksmith I think.
A very good video Ade... I wish I could explain things as clearly as you... See you on the next one...
You can buy graphite in a little puffer pack to use as a lubricant for locks and keys, works great cheap as chips, better than butchering expensive drawing pencils. MoS2 also works well!
Stavros
Beautifully done mate, you really make it look easy, Cheers
You are absolutely right about the height of the of the hole for the piston rod. On the S50 that I rebuilt and repaired the slide head was binding as it approached the cylinder assembly. I need to make that adjustment. Good catch! I am enjoying this series.
Fun video. So much work in such a small part. Machining is such a challenge. Take care.
Outstanding model engineering, I learned a lot Ade, many thanks!
On the gland packing, Keith Appleton always swore by old graphited yarn, and lamented the poor performance of the modern stuff. But he has recently shown the use of PTFE coated packing yarn which he has had success with. So maybe look carefully and see if what you have with your kit might be PTFE coated. If it is, it might be well worth a try before trying to make your own graphited substitute.
Nice one Ade, always good to watch and hear your thought processes as you make the part. Bloody drawings ought to be in imperial decimals instead of fractions. Converting is a pain even if you are reading a chart and can undoubtedly lead to balls ups and having to start again. I think I'd make photocopies of the plans and do individual sheets for each part dimensioned in decimal in red ink to prevent the **** ups!
I have done a chart that I need to laminate and get put on the wall behind the mill. keep forgetting to actually do it . time in the shed is more fun . Cheers Ade.
Hi Ade, an alternative to using graphite yarn would be to use a silicon O ring, although not purist its a thought.
I'll be very interested to see how you align the piston rod into the crosshead... Thanks for a enjoyable video..
Great video as usual ADE. I was think the same as you with the con rod a shrink fit on the pin & the friction in the Brass. I guess the thinking is , it's just a model & will not run much.
A tricky job nicely done. The gland packing usually already has the graphite in it usually evident by it being a gray colour, if it's white in colour it could be PTFE filled, I've got both. I've used PTFE tape on my traction engine valve rod and it's been fine, needs allot more packing in though.
Hi Nigel. It seems to be blue in colour . great idea with the PTFE. I will try some soft pencil filings packed into it. and try the PTFE as well as an option . Cheers Ade.
Contact Stuart or ask around about string withTeflon rather than graphite. I am enjoying your work. God bless!
Thanks for sharing 👍
I'm just wondering why you didn't use the end mill for skimming the top face. Save changing tools.
My 10H came with graphite in it already, I imagine yours will too.
One idea for making the graphite might be to use 0.5mm or even 3mm mechanical pencil leads rather than a plain pencil, and to crush with a mortar and pestle. Having next to no experience with graphite, I'd probably want to try a softer lead, 2B, 4B or 6B. I understand locksmiths also use powdered graphite, so maybe that's another idea?
Have a good one!
The graphite in pencils are hardened with clay. The harder the pencil, the more clay in the graphite. So a softer pencil should be better if that’s what you’re using. Otherwise, graphite can be quite hard if compressed into bars, such as those in the silver recovery’s in my film lab.
I just launched I’m pen off on to the floor. I almost choke to death laughing.
Well done.
I've got a bucket of graphite sitting here in Barry doing FA.
I'm not sure the extra height on the top lip is a good idea. It's a long way for the oil to climb and it gives more opportunity for misalignment. But, as you say, you can always take it off.
It seemed to work out OK but if I were to do it again I may agree with you. It was a bugger to get the slide rails lined up. They do seem to stay wet when running though . Happy New Year from one old bloke to another. Cheers Ade.
The blue ‘string’ already has graphite impregnated in it. It should feel slightly slippery, or at least the stuff in my beam engine kit did.
Graphite is used for higher speeds and better leakage control. Are you going to run steam or air and at what speed is the question
It will be on air mostly . I may make a boiler going forwards but this engine will probably run slow and end up as an ornament for most of its life . I am trying to stick to traditional though and I really would like to run it on steam at least once. The temptation to rev it up will always be there when it has run for a while . excited to get the fitting up done soon . Cheers Ade.
Thanks Ade
Hi Ade, If your'e going to use a pencil as a source of graphite you should use a B (ie the softest pencil you can find)
Nice little piece You finally got. Why didn't You show it being in the place where it will do its job?
Long video..... More "information" than chips this time.
Anyway, well done!
Hi Ade, Molycote the string and you will be in the ballpark.
Hi Ade. Can I ask where did you get your large parallels as featured in this video?
Hi Andrew . I think it was RDG tools or Arc euro trade . sorry not sure which one now . Cheers Ade.
@@ade63dug Thanks Ade. It’s so easy to loose track of from whom, or where tools etc have been bought from. I’ll have a rummage online and see if I can spot them.
Looking forward to the next instalment of your build. Entertaining and inspirational so far. 👏👏👍😀
I suggest you use Talcum powder rather than pencil scrapes.
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