@EmvyBeats you have to get the ship from chipper and Kahl and his brothers are the ships air support u just need the ship and u can change the air support to the ship u r running
As a Wisp main, I love Citrine, but I find it hard to compare them, because they do entirely different things. As you say Citrine is the better support frame, because, well Wisp is not a support frame, she is a toolbox. Her play style entirely changes depending on your setup, making her a skeleton key to any content. I say this not to diminish Citrines worth but it's like comparing a Swiss army knife (Wisp) to a lighter (Citrine). You can do more things in general with a good army knife, especially if you're creative, even creating a fire, but there are certain things a lighter is just made for that an army knife will never be able to.
I've always said that saying Citrine is a support frame is like claiming Octavia is a support frame... Technically true but you become the team carry anyway lol
I remember I wrote off citrine after hearing about how annoying her farm was getting all those crystals. Then I got her as a pick in a round of steel path circuit. I became a believer that day since even running the default build I really felt both invincible and unstoppable
Dude I recently switched to a Citirne main and had no idea there was a new augment out for her. I need to pay attention. Thanks for the video now I need to play it half speed so I can follow!
9:05 sporothrix is so much fun on citrine, from 1% cc to 300% with 10x cd multiplier??? Also the enemies dont move so sniping is easier??? I think sporothrix + nukor are the weapons that get the most out of her 4
I do think that with your build there's little reason not to swap out stretch with archon stretch. Even if it is not reliable as a main energy source, the energy is a really nice passive bonus that you will feel in the end.
Dude as soon as she got released I never stopped farming her I finally got her built and I don’t see myself playing any other frame no more lol I’d farm her again I think her farm is actually not terrible and also uniques collecting the lil crystals and what not … the downside is folks get tired so you don’t get much but you can always run solo for the enemies are very weak in my opinion but I also been playing for awhile so I can’t speak for others all in all I believe she is definitely S TIER
a small note at 1:15 citrine isn't available from the circuit you will actually have to push through her incredibly tedious and horrid farm to acquire her gl
What I find that nobody notices or mentions, is that her 3 has effectively infinite range. As long as you stay within the crystal's circle, any enemy, no matter how far away they are from you and the circle, will get status procs from the crystal if you shoot them.
Yup, all that matters is the shooter OR the target is within the prism's range. Making it an S tier ability for stationary objectives, including the mirror defense mission she's earned from 😂 (IMO any quest or mission to earn a frame SHOULD be trivialized by using that frame once it's earned.)
I haven't looked into Citrine since shortly after she came out and builds then. I have mixed feelings hearing that the limit on her third ability of not hitting multiple enemies when you use AoE weapons got changed. It made sense to not encourage the AoE meta with how Citrine encouraged precise shots on the crystals with her fourth ability. On the other hand, it's very nice and makes her third ability much better and not my default choice to subsume over anymore
It's better that the new augment doesn't slow the enemies affected by spread because that would suck for defence. You would have to hunt enemies otherwise. It's perfect augment as is.
Imagine if she had an augment that made her crystal move with her Theyd just have to shut the whole thing down at that point cuz she'd just be the best Frame ever
Another great thing is despite your low efficiency on the build you can just lead enemies over to another enemy with a crystal on it if you have a decent amount of time remaining.
My favorite primary Tiberon Prime is a beast. Problem is you don't have enough mod slots to just make it work. If you build viral you don't crit hard enough, if you max crit you do nothing without viral. Either way you don't have a slot for a bane either. Enter Citrine's 4. Forget crit chance. Now you can get viral, bane and crit dmg, of which Tiberon has a high base multiplier. With Lavos new augment you can go the other route and forget viral cause you can apply it yourself in post.
I do love Wisp, but lately I've been maining Octavia, Dante, and in higher levels, Yup! Citrine! I hated the grind to get her, but once i got her, it was super worth it.
Watching this video after the melee afflictions arcane dropped maxes me realize that her + harmony could maybe one shot max level enemies. Status duration massively increases the damage of the detonation. Double the status duration, double the damage. Just wish her crystals were a bit less spread out compared to something like Banshee's buff. But then again it can proc multiple instance so at some point, just point and shoot.
I'm very glad I found this channel. Not gonna touch the Wisp vs. Citrine topic, though. I love them both! As for Shards, what would be recommended? Two Tau Corrosive and two Casting Speed are already in. What would the last Shard be? Tau Parkour (I'm NOT addicted, I swear), or something else?
Theres no need to touch on citrine vs wisp cause why not have both. Having bith in the same mission means more buffs that makes the team doubly hard to kill if theres no one styanax or dante to share overguard
So for Citrine a generally solid archon shard layout would be 2 green shards for corrosion stacks, 2 yellow shards for casting speed, and one flex shard for whatever you want? If that is the case, would a purple shard allow you to replace the equilibrium mod in your build (given that she produces so many health/energy orbs)?
Citrine isn’t that bad of a frame to farm. Just use Titania fly around and collect those crystals and just watch a video on the side if u like. Pretty chill farm
I've always loved Citrine ever since I got the chance to test her out in the circuit, but I've never had the time for that grind. I can probably do it in one night, but I'll need a day of sleep after that lol. Also, love your videos!
Love your vids as always. You said something at the start that made me just like stop and think for a moment. "She doesn't even need a Helminth, that's how strong her kit is." This kind of makes me wanna ask. Is the Helminth good for the game, or would the game as a whole be better if Warframe kits were given way more focus and attention to keep each one relevant.
I think the helminth when it was added was mainly a bandaid solution for older frames that didnt keep up as well. Ever since Reb took over weve started getting more good reworks of older kits and while it takes more effort on DEs part its infinitely better for the games health than having to rely on gloom or roar or whichever other subsume is currently meta to make older frames keep up better in endgame content.
Her 4 also works on acolytes. Love citrine have been using her for all mission types and bounties. Free energy and healing dmg reduction and damage is to easy
me an intellectual: Dante, the overguard is just a dont get into jail free card, you can build his book to deal a load of damage or to primer enemys while it syncs to your attack and you can get status chance. His kit is just insane and even barely modded he is stronk.
enjoying boar prime and strun prime with atomos. Weapons that can hit multiple enemies just rip them alive with her 3. and 4 mass spreading now is so useful.
with garantee red crits does that mean you theoretically dont need to focus on crit chance and just do crit damage focus if you had to pick over the two? or does crit damage not matter if its already red crits? (asking) the same for status chance, does chance not matter as much is it still viable/recomended to have status and crit chance with citrine?
I like both and switch between the sometimes, but I prefer Wisp with the invisibility for spy (the teleport abilty is also great), getting that much health plus healing and crowd control electricity (archon flow for regen) with huge fire rate increase is amazing. I like Citrine for the orb drops, the cool turret and healing plus increased dmg with crystals. I use wisp more as I can have chroma helminth on her plus augment with cold for more tanking or also eclipse for more dmg. I do like that no helminth required for Citrine and Wisp 😬😬 bye bye 4th abilty.
I play both quite a bit but ima go Citrine. Maybe just me, with Wisp more times I can just put my motes down chill and be a bit lazy, Citrine make me feel more active/involved
She is *VERY* versatile, I use her 1st and 3rd in pretty much any defense, survival, or stick together mission and her 2nd is great for hp and damage resistance then her 4th is good for crowd control and disruption when you need it most. And I can totally agree that she is better than Wisp 😉
I am an oberon and trinity main. Oberon is my unkillable warframe and also my best support frame. Legit level 9999 enemies cant kill him with me standing still. and my trinity is my solo nuking frame.
roar on 4th and run precision intensify i dont feel like her 4th is actually needed but can be used well also if you want something to take advantage of her priming then Cedo should be 1st or any melee with CO and yes as a support its better than wisp altho both in a team is awesome
I do have to ask, I saw that you used Casting Speed and Corrosive Status Archon Shards, but what was the exact setup of said Shards? I'm using this build to help a friend with a Steel Path boss, and I'm wanting to get her as best as possible, thank you in advance!
I have subsumed over her 1 with Nourish. And I subsumed her 3rd with pillage on another config. I find her 4th to good to subsume over, it allows you to kill Acolytes with bad weapons cuz of that crit buff lol
i play a lot of citrine and have learned the following: i dropped equilibrium for one tau purple equilibrium shard and have been using it for weeks and can honestly say it is NOT worth it. you really want the full bonus equilibrium. also, archon vitality is not needed for anything other than a roar+ gem build using a heat inherit primer. a lot of people act like that mod is mandatory on her..
I get that overall citrine is better, but in endurance runs she just gonna get eaten alive. Wisp’s passive and her 2 make survivability much more viable. Her 3 is still very good. Her speed and shock mote are very effective in high level mission, and you can replace her 4 with what you want from helminth.
Breach surge is absolutely busted haha, the fact that you can have breach surge and any damage buff you want on her at the same time is enough for me to main her. And I agree that wisp survivability is out of this world. And you don’t need fire rate or attack speed mod on her, so thats a free mod slot for more damage.
Support Citrine > Wisp Utility Wisp >Citrine Since Dante is mentioned a lot I will discuss him briefly. Dante can kind of do it all. He just depends on what you give him and what you take away. Looking at it from a more archetype view. Dante is a summoner. Depending on his summons he gains different archetypes he can lean into. This is amplified even more by which pet, spectre, crew member etc that you summon. For example with just a HOUND alone Dante can have 9 separate distractions on the field. While others can have several of those targets from the hounds, the difference is Dante is so cast heavy that the uptime is built in and he can easily keep his energy levels up due to a combination of innate long duration of abilities and tome mod buffs. Citrine is better at buffing and de buffing as a whole. Wisp can provide buffs but is better at providing a variety of utility effects such as blinds, drawing aggro, stealth etc. Trinity is a cleric and is flat out support Nekros seems like a summoner but is more of a Necromancer My two cents. 😊
with the new augment, citrine can keep her full kit. wisp's 4 just isnt good/fun enough to keep. however, my preference with citrine is using breach surge as her 4 and playing a noncrit laetum xD
Off the top of my head, Wisp has a less active playstyle as her AoE debuff is for all incoming damage on the target, (versus Crystalize's debuff on crystal growth) bonus fire rate on her speed mote to open up modding on her weapons, and unfortunately a free Helminth slot over Sol Gate for anythinf you need. Meanwhile, Citrine gets infinite energy, free priming, team DR and Health regen, and can push weapons with less than 30% CC after mods to 300% like the Nukor and Sporothrix; BUT, she is difficult to fit a Helminth slot into, as all 4 of her abilities are amazing compred to Wisp's 3. Pick your poison, both have their benefits depending on your prefered loadout. If you have a good crit based or hybrid loadout, take Wisp. If you have a "decent" or status loadout, Citrine is your go to!
Heres my take on the debate Arcane blessing on citrine is like icing on the cake granted wisp easily gets it at the same time though dmg reduc is peak on citrine And it just has so much more fun than just gliding for invisibility somehow I don’t feel so exposed when I use her
If you dont use casting speed on her one and three and four feels not good to say the least but better subsume off her four anyways since everyone runs a incarnon weapon with a riven and has more than 300 percent crit anyways it can be a cockblock just like the old kavat crit buff that capped your crit to orange man that was annoying.
I dont have her but I want her, my thing is tho, she fixes an issue I have with wisp, wisp is far more effective in stationary gameplay, defense, bounties, mobile defence, where as Citrine is a more mobile from what I see here... But keep in mind that outside heath buffs... They do completely different things... Wisp increases movement speed and fire rate and gives everyone cc.. Citrine debuffs enemies
Citrine is good, but. U still need energy for support. So If u do mistake and lost energy (don't pay attention and spam, murmur enemy) u can't support, wisps flower still stay on ground, buff stay on u for decent time. Wisp have much more CC and inv frames. Citrine supporting work much less on boss like encounters without ads, and we can get more of this in future. DR work less on scaling, and u mention it.
You are just grasping for reasons. There are so many ways to get energy: pizza, operator, citrine's own abilities, mods, companions that a single mistake will not doom you.
Because her shields also benefit from the damage reduction her 2 has , meaning it takes that much oonger for her shields to deplete than if she didn't have it active
I'm ready...... Let the debate begin!!!! Citrine > Wisp
I stand with you
You're speaking the truth
Citrine rocking 4 good abilities instead of Wisp's 3
The man speak the truth, this WF is soo good i cant find a way to put a subsume on her.
Dante
"what does wisp give you?"
*neuron activation*
But gemussy
Counter argument: You cannot see the gemussy from behind, which is most of the gameplay
this is so cringe
@@the5thletter623true
Warframe players commenting gemussy under citrine is so cringe because you know none of them have felt the touch of a woman
As a Wisp main, I saw the thumbnail and was like, "What is this guy talking about?" and then got called out right away.
Both sides are wrong. Everyone knows throwing Kahl in the gear wheel is the best support frame.
how do you throw Khal in the gear wheel?
@EmvyBeats you have to get the ship from chipper and Kahl and his brothers are the ships air support u just need the ship and u can change the air support to the ship u r running
Counter argument citrine + wisp spectre. But kahl goon squad is gread
the music that comes with sevagoth's glaukus skin is all the support i need
Citrine: nah, i'd win
Citrine superiority
Loved Citrine from day 1, I'm just looking forward to more skins for her. I think fashion is where Wisp definitely has an advantage.
I love PLAYING Citrine, Wisp not so much. I do however love seeing a Wisp in the party.
I dont play wisp either, but i always want a wisp in party.
As a Wisp main, I love Citrine, but I find it hard to compare them, because they do entirely different things.
As you say Citrine is the better support frame, because, well Wisp is not a support frame, she is a toolbox. Her play style entirely changes depending on your setup, making her a skeleton key to any content.
I say this not to diminish Citrines worth but it's like comparing a Swiss army knife (Wisp) to a lighter (Citrine). You can do more things in general with a good army knife, especially if you're creative, even creating a fire, but there are certain things a lighter is just made for that an army knife will never be able to.
Honestly a good analogy
I've always said that saying Citrine is a support frame is like claiming Octavia is a support frame... Technically true but you become the team carry anyway lol
supporting the team by killing most of the enemies
I remember I wrote off citrine after hearing about how annoying her farm was getting all those crystals. Then I got her as a pick in a round of steel path circuit. I became a believer that day since even running the default build I really felt both invincible and unstoppable
Newbie here. I think this is the build I'll be working towards. You explained it very calmly and well. Plus it's up to date. Thank you so much.
Citrine, the Support Tank Mage Gunslinger Melee Goddess
Dude I recently switched to a Citirne main and had no idea there was a new augment out for her. I need to pay attention. Thanks for the video now I need to play it half speed so I can follow!
9:05 sporothrix is so much fun on citrine, from 1% cc to 300% with 10x cd multiplier??? Also the enemies dont move so sniping is easier??? I think sporothrix + nukor are the weapons that get the most out of her 4
I do think that with your build there's little reason not to swap out stretch with archon stretch. Even if it is not reliable as a main energy source, the energy is a really nice passive bonus that you will feel in the end.
Also no reason not to swap primed flow for archon flow, just a tad bit more energy orbs wouldn't hurt anyone
As a support main in most games; you have convinced me. Tonight I shall embark on the Citrine Journey
mate, i just got Citrine. This came in the perfect time, amazing video. Thank you very much
I actually found the citrine farm quite enjoyable. Just either had a youtube video on or was doing it with a friend
Ahh yes, a true man of culture 💎
Spread the crystalline gospel, bruzzahs
Gems must be spread
Dude as soon as she got released I never stopped farming her I finally got her built and I don’t see myself playing any other frame no more lol I’d farm her again I think her farm is actually not terrible and also uniques collecting the lil crystals and what not … the downside is folks get tired so you don’t get much but you can always run solo for the enemies are very weak in my opinion but I also been playing for awhile so I can’t speak for others all in all I believe she is definitely S TIER
great video, Citrine is my personal favorite of the frames that have come out in the last few years
a small note at 1:15 citrine isn't available from the circuit you will actually have to push through her incredibly tedious and horrid farm to acquire her gl
What I find that nobody notices or mentions, is that her 3 has effectively infinite range. As long as you stay within the crystal's circle, any enemy, no matter how far away they are from you and the circle, will get status procs from the crystal if you shoot them.
Yup, all that matters is the shooter OR the target is within the prism's range. Making it an S tier ability for stationary objectives, including the mirror defense mission she's earned from 😂
(IMO any quest or mission to earn a frame SHOULD be trivialized by using that frame once it's earned.)
I haven't looked into Citrine since shortly after she came out and builds then. I have mixed feelings hearing that the limit on her third ability of not hitting multiple enemies when you use AoE weapons got changed. It made sense to not encourage the AoE meta with how Citrine encouraged precise shots on the crystals with her fourth ability. On the other hand, it's very nice and makes her third ability much better and not my default choice to subsume over anymore
Gave her the aura that takes strength away and gives it to allies just to make her even better support
It's better that the new augment doesn't slow the enemies affected by spread because that would suck for defence. You would have to hunt enemies otherwise. It's perfect augment as is.
Imagine if she had an augment that made her crystal move with her
Theyd just have to shut the whole thing down at that point cuz she'd just be the best Frame ever
I was debating if I wanted to get Citrine or not, this video just sold me on her
I know you didn't, but I'm going to pretend you made this video for me after I asked for an updated citrine video. Thank for the great video!
Another great thing is despite your low efficiency on the build you can just lead enemies over to another enemy with a crystal on it if you have a decent amount of time remaining.
My favorite primary Tiberon Prime is a beast. Problem is you don't have enough mod slots to just make it work. If you build viral you don't crit hard enough, if you max crit you do nothing without viral. Either way you don't have a slot for a bane either. Enter Citrine's 4. Forget crit chance. Now you can get viral, bane and crit dmg, of which Tiberon has a high base multiplier. With Lavos new augment you can go the other route and forget viral cause you can apply it yourself in post.
I do love Wisp, but lately I've been maining Octavia, Dante, and in higher levels, Yup! Citrine! I hated the grind to get her, but once i got her, it was super worth it.
Watching this video after the melee afflictions arcane dropped maxes me realize that her + harmony could maybe one shot max level enemies. Status duration massively increases the damage of the detonation. Double the status duration, double the damage. Just wish her crystals were a bit less spread out compared to something like Banshee's buff. But then again it can proc multiple instance so at some point, just point and shoot.
I'm very glad I found this channel. Not gonna touch the Wisp vs. Citrine topic, though. I love them both!
As for Shards, what would be recommended? Two Tau Corrosive and two Casting Speed are already in. What would the last Shard be? Tau Parkour (I'm NOT addicted, I swear), or something else?
Normal Corrosive shards x2 & 1 or 2 Tau casting speed shards & the 1 or 2 left Tau red for str. Or 1 casting & one parkhour as i have.
@@ddssrr1614 I don't feel like she needs Strength, so I'll just go Tau Parkour.
Thank you!
@@rubencp93 I personally add some armor for survivability as my last shard. Tau blue
Theres no need to touch on citrine vs wisp cause why not have both. Having bith in the same mission means more buffs that makes the team doubly hard to kill if theres no one styanax or dante to share overguard
@@mekanikose Dream team Wisp Citrine Dante Styanax.
So for Citrine a generally solid archon shard layout would be 2 green shards for corrosion stacks, 2 yellow shards for casting speed, and one flex shard for whatever you want?
If that is the case, would a purple shard allow you to replace the equilibrium mod in your build (given that she produces so many health/energy orbs)?
She is such a good frame
There is a chance of Citrine parts drop in the mission too. Rotation C I think, like every 20 minutes (5 min for each round).
Replaced her 2 with nourish and combat discipline, works well with her 3. You can even go semi afk with one spectre.
Citrine isn’t that bad of a frame to farm. Just use Titania fly around and collect those crystals and just watch a video on the side if u like. Pretty chill farm
the citrine grind 💀glad i dont have to do it again already done it twice
I've always loved Citrine ever since I got the chance to test her out in the circuit, but I've never had the time for that grind. I can probably do it in one night, but I'll need a day of sleep after that lol. Also, love your videos!
I think with an average of 100 cyrstels per run (20 minutes) it's about 5 hours in total? Or roughly that.
Love your vids as always. You said something at the start that made me just like stop and think for a moment.
"She doesn't even need a Helminth, that's how strong her kit is."
This kind of makes me wanna ask. Is the Helminth good for the game, or would the game as a whole be better if Warframe kits were given way more focus and attention to keep each one relevant.
I think the helminth when it was added was mainly a bandaid solution for older frames that didnt keep up as well. Ever since Reb took over weve started getting more good reworks of older kits and while it takes more effort on DEs part its infinitely better for the games health than having to rely on gloom or roar or whichever other subsume is currently meta to make older frames keep up better in endgame content.
Her 4 also works on acolytes. Love citrine have been using her for all mission types and bounties. Free energy and healing dmg reduction and damage is to easy
I've tried citrine with unusual helminths like expedite suffering, not as bad as one might expect. definitely not meta but fun as hell!
me an intellectual: Dante, the overguard is just a dont get into jail free card, you can build his book to deal a load of damage or to primer enemys while it syncs to your attack and you can get status chance. His kit is just insane and even barely modded he is stronk.
When I play Dante, I rarely use my weapons... He's the true caster.
Citrine could potentially work with Nourish and Combat Discipline, no?
I used to be a Wisp main, but since Citrine’s release I’ve played her NONSTOP. (Until Dante bc he’s just so damn fun)
I just got her and was surprised how unpopular she seems to be. Support Tank and red crits for everyone? Winner
enjoying boar prime and strun prime with atomos. Weapons that can hit multiple enemies just rip them alive with her 3. and 4 mass spreading now is so useful.
Kuva Drakgoon on Citrine is absolute heaven
If you want you could use archon strectch which just takes her to the next level
Wisp and Citrine both have quality dumpys
with garantee red crits does that mean you theoretically dont need to focus on crit chance and just do crit damage focus if you had to pick over the two? or does crit damage not matter if its already red crits?
(asking) the same for status chance, does chance not matter as much is it still viable/recomended to have status and crit chance with citrine?
I like both and switch between the sometimes, but I prefer Wisp with the invisibility for spy (the teleport abilty is also great), getting that much health plus healing and crowd control electricity (archon flow for regen) with huge fire rate increase is amazing. I like Citrine for the orb drops, the cool turret and healing plus increased dmg with crystals. I use wisp more as I can have chroma helminth on her plus augment with cold for more tanking or also eclipse for more dmg. I do like that no helminth required for Citrine and Wisp 😬😬 bye bye 4th abilty.
I play both quite a bit but ima go Citrine. Maybe just me, with Wisp more times I can just put my motes down chill and be a bit lazy, Citrine make me feel more active/involved
Tbh i think stacking citrine with wisp or trinity is the play for a ton of mission types.
Citrine mains rise up!!!
I am that Wisp that everyone wants in their party. Citrine is great, but +200% firerate/attack speed booster is an art.
She is *VERY* versatile, I use her 1st and 3rd in pretty much any defense, survival, or stick together mission and her 2nd is great for hp and damage resistance then her 4th is good for crowd control and disruption when you need it most.
And I can totally agree that she is better than Wisp 😉
Citrine 3 + Cascadia Empowered on Kompressa go BRRRRRRRRT
DAMAGE
hello Flo I've been enjoying all your videos so far. So will you make a Railjack guide and build now?
I am an oberon and trinity main. Oberon is my unkillable warframe and also my best support frame. Legit level 9999 enemies cant kill him with me standing still. and my trinity is my solo nuking frame.
I would keep crystalize on Citrine if her best weapon for crystalize Sporotrix and it's augment wasn't buggy still.
If you go health tank you can easaly go insanly far even in endurence so you dont realy need shieldgating
My favorite frame. Shes such a good support
roar on 4th and run precision intensify
i dont feel like her 4th is actually needed but can be used well
also if you want something to take advantage of her priming then Cedo should be 1st or any melee with CO
and yes as a support its better than wisp altho both in a team is awesome
I do have to ask, I saw that you used Casting Speed and Corrosive Status Archon Shards, but what was the exact setup of said Shards? I'm using this build to help a friend with a Steel Path boss, and I'm wanting to get her as best as possible, thank you in advance!
tip for farming her, u just gotta do a mission type that gives u a currency which u can exchange for her its called platinum ez.
that's not even the worst farm, you don't have to waste plat on her.
I have subsumed over her 1 with Nourish. And I subsumed her 3rd with pillage on another config. I find her 4th to good to subsume over, it allows you to kill Acolytes with bad weapons cuz of that crit buff lol
i play a lot of citrine and have learned the following:
i dropped equilibrium for one tau purple equilibrium shard and have been using it for weeks and can honestly say it is NOT worth it. you really want the full bonus equilibrium.
also, archon vitality is not needed for anything other than a roar+ gem build using a heat inherit primer. a lot of people act like that mod is mandatory on her..
Its just nice to have to have more health as a buffer and get double the value from her heat procs.
I get that overall citrine is better, but in endurance runs she just gonna get eaten alive. Wisp’s passive and her 2 make survivability much more viable. Her 3 is still very good. Her speed and shock mote are very effective in high level mission, and you can replace her 4 with what you want from helminth.
Breach surge is absolutely busted haha, the fact that you can have breach surge and any damage buff you want on her at the same time is enough for me to main her. And I agree that wisp survivability is out of this world. And you don’t need fire rate or attack speed mod on her, so thats a free mod slot for more damage.
Support
Citrine > Wisp
Utility
Wisp >Citrine
Since Dante is mentioned a lot I will discuss him briefly.
Dante can kind of do it all. He just depends on what you give him and what you take away.
Looking at it from a more archetype view.
Dante is a summoner. Depending on his summons he gains different archetypes he can lean into. This is amplified even more by which pet, spectre, crew member etc that you summon. For example with just a HOUND alone Dante can have 9 separate distractions on the field. While others can have several of those targets from the hounds, the difference is Dante is so cast heavy that the uptime is built in and he can easily keep his energy levels up due to a combination of innate long duration of abilities and tome mod buffs.
Citrine is better at buffing and de buffing as a whole.
Wisp can provide buffs but is better at providing a variety of utility effects such as blinds, drawing aggro, stealth etc.
Trinity is a cleric and is flat out support
Nekros seems like a summoner but is more of a Necromancer
My two cents. 😊
Is there a specific focus school that would be best if Citrine is my main frame?
Having negative efficiency isn’t a bother cause of her 1
Possibly one of the best users or the Archon mods.
with the new augment, citrine can keep her full kit. wisp's 4 just isnt good/fun enough to keep. however, my preference with citrine is using breach surge as her 4 and playing a noncrit laetum xD
Off the top of my head, Wisp has a less active playstyle as her AoE debuff is for all incoming damage on the target, (versus Crystalize's debuff on crystal growth) bonus fire rate on her speed mote to open up modding on her weapons, and unfortunately a free Helminth slot over Sol Gate for anythinf you need.
Meanwhile, Citrine gets infinite energy, free priming, team DR and Health regen, and can push weapons with less than 30% CC after mods to 300% like the Nukor and Sporothrix; BUT, she is difficult to fit a Helminth slot into, as all 4 of her abilities are amazing compred to Wisp's 3.
Pick your poison, both have their benefits depending on your prefered loadout. If you have a good crit based or hybrid loadout, take Wisp. If you have a "decent" or status loadout, Citrine is your go to!
Where does the Recrystalize mod drop? There's nothing on the wiki yet :c
Dante laughs at both
Heres my take on the debate
Arcane blessing on citrine is like icing on the cake granted wisp easily gets it at the same time though dmg reduc is peak on citrine
And it just has so much more fun than just gliding for invisibility somehow I don’t feel so exposed when I use her
Awesome! Hope to see you do a Void Cascade Run with her one of these days if possible!
Absolutely
That burston prime shredz
Citrine my beloved, probably my favorite generalist frame
I mean they re two of my favorites and if you are constructing a team of 4 I would want one of each
If you dont use casting speed on her one and three and four feels not good to say the least but better subsume off her four anyways since everyone runs a incarnon weapon with a riven and has more than 300 percent crit anyways it can be a cockblock just like the old kavat crit buff that capped your crit to orange man that was annoying.
What archon shards should I put on her ? Can’t seem to see any info
I dont have her but I want her, my thing is tho, she fixes an issue I have with wisp, wisp is far more effective in stationary gameplay, defense, bounties, mobile defence, where as Citrine is a more mobile from what I see here... But keep in mind that outside heath buffs... They do completely different things... Wisp increases movement speed and fire rate and gives everyone cc.. Citrine debuffs enemies
Citrine is good, but. U still need energy for support. So If u do mistake and lost energy (don't pay attention and spam, murmur enemy) u can't support, wisps flower still stay on ground, buff stay on u for decent time. Wisp have much more CC and inv frames. Citrine supporting work much less on boss like encounters without ads, and we can get more of this in future. DR work less on scaling, and u mention it.
You are just grasping for reasons. There are so many ways to get energy: pizza, operator, citrine's own abilities, mods, companions that a single mistake will not doom you.
The good thing about being a yareli main is u cant get triggered because people's opinions about her is already low enough
Uhm, pretty sure status duration is not impacted by strength, but it scales with duration mods....
Crap you might be right I may have made a booboo
I just find her odd. Cause its nigh impossible to get it rolling without a good weapon and if you have a good weapon what good is the skills?
wwhen next stream? W vid
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How the catalizing shield work i dont understand that like the shield gating what i have to do 😅?
bro how to get this helmet? also, nice video
I feel like that goes to Harrow fr, but Citrine is amazing
what's your fashion frame?
Burston build?
Just a question, why not subsume the 2nd off bc of the infinite shield gate?
Because her shields also benefit from the damage reduction her 2 has , meaning it takes that much oonger for her shields to deplete than if she didn't have it active
Gotta build her today
I am ashamed that I used to be a Wisp Main but switched to Gemussy!
whats that ephemera? it look sick!