It's ridiculous that these games come out every year with minimal updates for a full $60 price tag. They seem to only make tangible changes every 3 years or so. The annual updates should just be changed to a $20 DLC, with a new major version being released every 3 years
Thats why I don’t buy F1 every year, I still have F1 2020 and I am gonna buy F1 2022 for new cars. I upgrade every 2-3 years. F1 2013/2016/2020 and now 2022.
Series X runs 120@1440p and looks amazing. If anything it looks smoother less jaggy when I'm in performance mode @120fps. Minus the RT this is the way to play.
A small coreection, but DLSS and FSR have been present since F1 2020 and F1 2021 respectively! the only change is that they both use newer versions as you’d expect, and FSR now allows you to tune the sharpness :)
@@GunSlingerAUS1 absolutely, but I do find it’s improved by keeping DLSS manually up to date via DLSS Swapper. I run DLSS 2.4.3 with sharpening at 25 and preset to Quality, and then I run a Sharpen filter in Nvidia Freestyle at 30% with ignore film grain set to 0.8 and then I think it cleans up well enough
@@maxminy5634 This is called cross gen period. You can't throw all these features in cross gen titles. You would require too much dev effort to differentiate between old vs curre t gen code. It will start being more widely used after X1 support is dropped.
@@rjanuari1978 if it was easy enough to do it would be done by now. Even with Xbox one idropped, you still have ps5, a large PC market (Nvidia cards, amd cards), that don’t have those features. So the argument is the same, developer effort for a small volume of consoles. If first party is not doing it then it’s a tough sell for third party. Also, in a few years the next PC Cards from both amd and Nvidia will be out with more brute force power. Less incentives to use bespoke features. This is the same as the ps3 era, no one used the spe’s in the ps3 besides first party and towards the end of the generation. In the end it didn’t even matter or make much difference.
He says it will hard to spot the tiny bit of screen tearing seen with the series x at 120 fps with a vrr display. Correction: it will be impossible to spot with a vrr display.
What resolution is the 120hz modes running for both consoles? A rare slip up from digital foundry can’t remember them ever forgetting. Edit: please thumbs up this comment boys and girls. maybe they can see this and give an answer.
@@ThePoisonDwarf1 tears on ps5 too was just playing it. John just played one race and said ya that’s fine. And nobody would even notice that tear I couldn’t even see it slowed down.. at 120 FPS ya nobody is seeing that. For me to actually notice on ps5 it must be worse honestly.
07:43 All the technical achievements in the world amount to nothing if your cars render like they're floating above the tarmac. How no one caught this is beyond me, pretty embarassing.
I'm not sure about on the Series X, but on the PS5, the logos on my "My Team" car constantly disappear during replays and highlight reels of completed races.
DLSS has been on previous F1 games on PC. I believe it was on last year’s version as well. It had bad ghosting issues at launch which were reduced via patches as time went on
Gah, thanks, I was starting to doubt my own sanity. Surely last year, I think maybe the year prior, even? I even remember DF calling out the ghosting at some point.
@@mademedothis424 Was it touted as a new feature? If so that slipped past me, I figured it was mentioned as a PC feature specifically, not as a newly introduced feature. 🤔
I’m sometimes in for a little bit of console war fun, but in this case: Fantastic result on all machines. Impressive to see 4K/60 respectively 1080p/60 locked on the consoles. These small RT issues on the ps5 and this minor tearing in the 120 Fps mode of the SX are not really a deal at all. Fanboys who argue about it easily take a L on their own.
I've got a nick-pick for you guys. You are DIGITAL FOUNDRY. Start covering VR in a bit more depth! It's been in the wild since 2013 at this point, and we've only had a few videos from you guys. Would love to see your take on it!
I’m also having a lot of issues on PC. Such a shame when it’s essentially the same game as last year with a fresh coat of paint, how did they manage to fuck it up so bad?
The best feature of F1 2022 is the much better looking & driving new F1 2022 cars, compared to the old gen, from last year and older. Anything else is just a bonus.
As long as Denuvo is present in the PC versions (always has been since 2016, and even with new ownership, Codemasters doesn't show it on Steam), its performance will be always limited.
Well, I do play with everyting maxed out, RT disabled, at 1080p 120fps, and the game runs so well, that both CPU and GPU are extremely under used, R5 3600x and RTX 3070, if I turn on RT, it runs at a stable 80 fps and GPU maxed out, that's not really bad for a brand new game with so much RT.
Why'd they deliberately put RT on Series X and S on the cockpit but for PS5 and PC they didn't even try, lol even on PC when you out RT on for gameplay other places only have SSR, this can't be some bug, it feels deliberate
I heard v sync is also a heavy performance cost in this game (like a 40% cost which is absurd) so I want a vrr mode where vsync is disabled and with the extra overhead can either add rt in gameplay or instead unlike the resolution mode up to 120fps
1440p se não me engano. Mas o PS5 não solta um output de 1440p acredito eu, aqui no meu ele roda em 1080p 120hz no modo performance, a diferença de fluidez vale a pena.
1440p if i'm not mistaken. But the ps5 don't output 1440p yet I believe, here the game runs at 1080p 120hz in performance mode, in this type of game the tradeoff is worth it.
@@DEVILTAZ35 Yes, there are some variables, but its still important, especially if one platform has more inherent latency than the other. Take for example the recent kerfuffle about PS4/5 having way more latency in UE4 fighting games than PC and MS consoles. For games like those, and games like F1, where reactions really matter, it's an important metric. Or the recent DF video about the added latency when using the Fromsoft game hack due to Sony V-sync lag. There's big differences there and comparisons are warranted.
Props to EA and Codemasters for finally supporting VR. They got my purchase on release because of it. I’m hoping they add an MSAA option because TAA or DLSS seems to add a degree of blurriness that MSAA doesn’t have.
@@TedThomasTT there are bugs , people are experiencing crashes (me included) , and I’m having to jump in and out vr to configure menus … yes it’s a mess
@@oathesis My experience has been good overall. I’m pleased this engine doesn’t seem to require a game restart after changes, like the Madness engine often does. I hope your situation improves. I suppose peoples experiences vary based on their setup.
@@imrpovking845 DRS in gaming is Dynamic Resolution Scaling, you only really see it on consoles, occasionally PC games come with it but DLSS and FSR are far better solutions to keep frame rates high with little image quality loss.
When you talk about formula 1 there must be some caution while talking about drs. I probably said this last year and ill say it again (or for the first time): if they reused the assets as heavily as they did since the first game there is no excuses for anything that looks bad. It gets to the point were the little details are still in the same place. If you go to the China track, run the long straight and look to the left in the very end you will see a brazilian flag. It is there since 2009.
It's kinda funny how this recycled game thats rushed out each year is the first car game to support raytracing reflections in actual gameplay (on pc at least). GT7 couldn't do it and forza horizon cut the feature and has been fighting the pc modders bringing it back ever since.
Yes! 1080p on Series S, _finally_ developers are starting to grasp that the S in NOT a 1440p console and trying to make it into one hurts my gaming experience. Give me solid 1080p60 performance, thank you!!
@RedHunter nobody did until df told us there’s raytracing on the cockpit on Xbox. And I don’t think anybody would notice it or cared if it was raytraced and this what I mean by raytracing being a buzz word in today’s games. I keep on saying raytracing is pointless if the whole games art and engineering isn’t designed around it. Using raytracing like an instagram filter is the problem in most games today.
For anyone who had F1 2021 on PC it’s also important to mention that this year DLSS and DRS actually work. Last year the first had massive ghosting issues and the second didn’t work at all. Both is fixed now. What’s not fixed (not sure if it was an issue last year) is V-Sync sucking up up to 40% performance. So when you think, 80FPS without V-Sync would guarantee a smooth 60 with it enabled, don’t get your hopes up. Similar to some Ubisoft games a couple years ago
@@thomaspepping6756 If your PC has enough performance, get that Version. Besides of the mentioned V-Sync issues, I haven't had any technical issues. I have a RTX 3080, running the game on high settings, including Raytracing on high (which is the medium setting), 1440p, V-Sync and DLSS Balanced. Playing it with a Thrustmaster T300. Wouldn’t want to go back to controller on racing games
@@Jutsch80HD do you think the large performance cost of v sync also affects the console version cause if so I badly want a vrr mode where it’s disabled
I dont see series x using full power at any multi plat game because devs dont wanna embarass ps5 weaker hardware 😂😂🤣🤣 or else sony will remove them from their ecosystem. Only few devs like hitman 3 didnt care if ps5 performed weaker than series x 🤣🤣🤣coz their not scared to be removed from sony ecosystem 🤣😂
It supposedly has an advantage over the PS5 yet seems evenly matched. If this is "finally using all that power", then I'm not sure I'll even keep the XSX anymore. Microsoft had to buy Bethesda to have a schedule in 2023 that was not limited to Forza and completely destroyed Halo's reputation.
Don’t know if anyone else has had the same problem but on series x performance I get fps drops from 120 to 80 something in all races. This gets fixed once I use flashback and it gets locked at 120fps. This does not happen in any other game and f1 2021 work fine locked at 120fps for me, even in rainy Monaco.
Damn Tom your gpu is like rtx 3070 class in raster performance and that's like £469. Seems like an upgrade is in order slumming it with that old Titan.
Graphically, this series is still very Sega'ish in it's bright solid colours. It's sad that 2 yrs after next generation hardware was released, they're still releasing last-gen games with a bit of added sparkle. The lighting is all just so last-gen. 120million PS4s in the world means this is the way it's going to be for another few years. The games industry is in such a terrible lull at the moment
I think the game looks fantastic. Im not going to tell you that you are wrong. But Id suggest not putting so much stock into the graphics not being top of the line. Just sucks the fun out of gaming for me at least. Gaming being in a lull because its not pushing graphical boundaries sounds kinda..i dunno not accurrate. Looking at the numbers, the majority of gamers are playing games that released years or even a decade ago. So most of us arent really feeling a lull. We're good.
Biggest problem is AAA and even AA games take years to develop, and devkits arrived late. Remember that rdna2 features were available on pc since the old rtx20 series, but the majority of pc players are using old hardware.
@@vandammage1747 Yes I know, it's not a good situation to be in. 3 or 4 yrs to release a game. The 'Worth A Buy' channel on here did a great video comparing the number of games released a decade ago in one year, compared to one year now. The difference was jaw-dropping in terms of games released in a single 12 month period. Add to that, that a new GTA title is now taking 13 yrs to release, is a terrible warning for the future of gaming
All the more reason to support fully new gen games coming out in the near future like TLOU Part 1, Dead Space Remake, and RE4 even though these all ironically have roots in previous gens lol.
Surprised that there was no mention of how blurry the PC version is at 4K, with TAA or DLSS. I'm running a 3090 on a 77" LG C1, and find it very smeared/blurry compared to GT7.
When you make a video about a F1 game, you might not want to use the "DRS" abbreviation multiple times for something that is not a Drag Reduction System.
Codemasters / EA have no plans to bring VR support to the PS5. I have no plans to purchase the game at this time. Perhaps some other year's version will get there after the release of the PSVR 2.
It's very nice that you always consider Xbox Series S, other channels usually doesn't mention it, it's an amazing tiny console and true next gen at 1080/1440p.
It had some drops on 2021 if im not mistaken. Now is running perfectly at 60 on 2022. They optimized it well for series s. Bummer no 120 FPS i was having a blast on 120 FPS earlier makes fast paced racing games so much better. Even if they had to drop to 720p they should still give the option.
@Psyrgery yeah tfb, I doubt there wouldn’t be parity between the two, it’s the norm with codemasters. But 1440p looks pretty good on 4k TV. I have both, still gunna get it on XSX tho.👌
_"even on a Titan RTX"_ You talk about that card like it's still 2018. How can you even use something like that, working for Digital Foundry in 2022? Shouldn't you get a modern card?
Disappointing that F1 2022 on PS5 still doesn't have voice support. I'm not sure if this is available on Xbox Series X or PC. The only reason I bought it on PS5 is because I have a Logitech G29 steering wheel, which to my knowledge doesn't work on the Series X...although I should really try it one of these days... It's also a shame that when you're leaving the garage during Practice for example, when the camera is showing the inside view (steering wheel on the car), it still jitters for a lack of a better word when the steering wheel is turning, it isn't one smooth motion.
Not on 22 but it happened quite often on 20 and 21. Haven't tried 22 on Multiplayer but that is when I usually get those crashes in the others (Ryzen 7 1700x and RTX 2060 with 32GB RAM at 3200mhz)
An option for just cockpit raytracing with more agressive DRS would be nice to have on PS5 and PC, if I understood correctly that's only on the Xbox consoles right now and possibly as a bug.
To be fair, Microsoft marketed it as the exact same product as the X but running at 1080p or 1440. 120fps, ray tracing, everything. Just lower resolution. And it seemed possible, given the almost identical processor and about the same fraction of GPU as the resolution downgrade. So I don't blame people for being upset that the Series S has been a major let down that often doesn't feature ray tracing, doesn't do 60fps, or doesn't match graphical fidelity (and often doesn't hit native 1080p even).
I have a PS5 and I'll be buying the XBSX as soon as they have them in stock near me. I want the best of both worlds so I can play the best console version of the next-gen games.
You might want to hold off on this one. If the performance is better on the PS5 and it just needs a patch for cockpit mode, like on PC, it is probably the best console version.
I'm having frames and framtime issues on the PS5. I tried the game with my secondary account and theres no problem at all. Only with my main account. Any tips?
Can we do PC reviews that don't target the highest of high end? This is borderline useless. Can we get tests on mid range AMD and Nvidia cards or at least a range of low medium and high end.
Or do what Ales does. Give recommended settings for PC comparable to SX/PS5. The problem with this review is that there is nothing about graphical settings other than RT and resolution.
It's not borderline useless, it's entirely useless? "My Titan RTX couldn't maintain 60 fps so I locked the framerate to 30 in a racing game" ??? The only relevant information in this statement is "the RT performance is unplayable".
DRS means two things when talking about an F1 game 😊
i laughed when he said it
Yeah, I assume that’s why he included the clip of driving into the DRS sign
DRS enabled
And i remember the time when Max's DRS wasn't working in a recent race. He was swearing in radio and smacking the DRS button like crazy 🤣
@@mikeuk666 Damn right I'm like "huh?". Lol what did me mean?
It's ridiculous that these games come out every year with minimal updates for a full $60 price tag. They seem to only make tangible changes every 3 years or so. The annual updates should just be changed to a $20 DLC, with a new major version being released every 3 years
Exactly my thoughts too
You could say the exact same except worse for every sports title in existence.
Yeah like call of duty 😂
Thats why I don’t buy F1 every year, I still have F1 2020 and I am gonna buy F1 2022 for new cars. I upgrade every 2-3 years. F1 2013/2016/2020 and now 2022.
I just got into the games at 120 FPS. And ya 2021 and 2022 are similar but im not tired of them yet. Didn’t realize how fun they are
1:45 - "DRS is enabled" - _Looks at the rear wing of the Ferrari_ - No, it's not...oh, *that* DRS. 😄
Ahahah, yes.
Series X runs 120@1440p and looks amazing. If anything it looks smoother less jaggy when I'm in performance mode @120fps. Minus the RT this is the way to play.
There is no RT during a race outside of pits in any mode anyway on console.
RT looks awesome if you play cockpit view on PC
Tom puts comparison shots the correct way (improved and/or newer on the right) 😊
A small coreection, but DLSS and FSR have been present since F1 2020 and F1 2021 respectively! the only change is that they both use newer versions as you’d expect, and FSR now allows you to tune the sharpness :)
DEVs locking the sharpness value was a weird choice anyway, given the source code HAD a code snippet for the slider included!
Do you find that both DLSS and TAA leaves much to be desired? I run 4K on a 77" OLED with an RTX 3090, and am quite disappointed in the clarity.
@@GunSlingerAUS1 absolutely, but I do find it’s improved by keeping DLSS manually up to date via DLSS Swapper. I run DLSS 2.4.3 with sharpening at 25 and preset to Quality, and then I run a Sharpen filter in Nvidia Freestyle at 30% with ignore film grain set to 0.8 and then I think it cleans up well enough
On racing games, mesh shading is a must.
Especially for series s
VRS also!
@@rjanuari1978 Throw in sampler feedback.
SFS, mesh shading, vrs, won’t push the needle much. Two years in now, not even first party using those features.
@@maxminy5634 This is called cross gen period. You can't throw all these features in cross gen titles. You would require too much dev effort to differentiate between old vs curre t gen code.
It will start being more widely used after X1 support is dropped.
@@rjanuari1978 if it was easy enough to do it would be done by now. Even with Xbox one idropped, you still have ps5, a large PC market (Nvidia cards, amd cards), that don’t have those features. So the argument is the same, developer effort for a small volume of consoles. If first party is not doing it then it’s a tough sell for third party. Also, in a few years the next PC Cards from both amd and Nvidia will be out with more brute force power. Less incentives to use bespoke features. This is the same as the ps3 era, no one used the spe’s in the ps3 besides first party and towards the end of the generation. In the end it didn’t even matter or make much difference.
He says it will hard to spot the tiny bit of screen tearing seen with the series x at 120 fps with a vrr display. Correction: it will be impossible to spot with a vrr display.
Here for the Tom, cheers DF
What resolution is the 120hz modes running for both consoles? A rare slip up from digital foundry can’t remember them ever forgetting.
Edit: please thumbs up this comment boys and girls. maybe they can see this and give an answer.
Ikr
@@Luke121201 get these comments upvoted maybe they will see and answer.
I would imagine series x is higher as an average hence the additional tearing
@Braedon Lock bro I am on, it was just literally the first Comment once i finished the vid 😊
@@ThePoisonDwarf1 tears on ps5 too was just playing it. John just played one race and said ya that’s fine.
And nobody would even notice that tear I couldn’t even see it slowed down.. at 120 FPS ya nobody is seeing that. For me to actually notice on ps5 it must be worse honestly.
Didn't they mess up the RT on last year's release too? I remember they had to disable it entirely for a while before they eventually re-enabled it.
It seems that the EGO engine needs more RT code optimization to be more stable on every platforme.
The Series X has too much power for the PS5
@@grtcara8386 is that why it's the same issue on ps5? You DO know it's a bug right?
@@adrianhosein7698 did you see Linnemans Tweet?
@@grtcara8386 Would you mind telling us? Not everyone likes twitter.
07:43 All the technical achievements in the world amount to nothing if your cars render like they're floating above the tarmac. How no one caught this is beyond me, pretty embarassing.
Thought I was only to notice that 😳
VR Performance is really bad. Unfortunately no word about it. But thank you anyway for the regular analysis like always.
I haven't found it any worse than any other racing game to be fair
you need to halve the settings for VR cuz it takes two times the performance to achieve the similar result as non VR.
@@DarkP1 That makes sense though
I'm not sure about on the Series X, but on the PS5, the logos on my "My Team" car constantly disappear during replays and highlight reels of completed races.
same for xbox game is loaded with minor bugs still
We missed you Tom!
DLSS has been on previous F1 games on PC. I believe it was on last year’s version as well. It had bad ghosting issues at launch which were reduced via patches as time went on
Gah, thanks, I was starting to doubt my own sanity. Surely last year, I think maybe the year prior, even? I even remember DF calling out the ghosting at some point.
It was on 2020 also
@@mademedothis424 Was it touted as a new feature? If so that slipped past me, I figured it was mentioned as a PC feature specifically, not as a newly introduced feature. 🤔
PC version is very buggy eg if your wheel & pedals are from different makers, the fps drops by half!
I’m sometimes in for a little bit of console war fun, but in this case:
Fantastic result on all machines. Impressive to see 4K/60 respectively 1080p/60 locked on the consoles.
These small RT issues on the ps5 and this minor tearing in the 120 Fps mode of the SX are not really a deal at all.
Fanboys who argue about it easily take a L on their own.
To be fair, Console warring sometimes can be fun. But the way things go on the internet.....
Pretty much.
Well put
@@nafisarafat1044 fun if you have nothing to do with life
Arguing about pixels on a screen is a big fucking waste of time
Perfect timing after the incredible British GP!!!
So close for the true champ, HAM44 : )
@@infinitysynthesis I was at cops on Sunday, when lewis got the double overtake on Charles and Checo, my god did EVERYONE scream, truly amazing
@@kasimahmed3841 not everyone 👎🏻
@@infinitysynthesis true Champ LOL. Nice joke
I thing that I miss in this - otherwise great - analisys, is the image quality comparison between 60 and 120fps modes
We all know the DRS works but how does the DRS work?
Series S starting to flex! What a badass little machine.
it will now with FSR 2.0
@@sully8317 sweet. Series S is gonna make the ps5 look bad in a year haha
@@nick13b not sure but it will be a very good machine for the price will be pushing out 1440p 60 on most titles going forward.
@@nick13b pls stop
@@jamesmiley6146 nah, ps 5 just sucks too badly for me to ever stop.
Great review Tom, would really like a optimal settings for VR video, please please please!!
I've got a nick-pick for you guys. You are DIGITAL FOUNDRY. Start covering VR in a bit more depth! It's been in the wild since 2013 at this point, and we've only had a few videos from you guys. Would love to see your take on it!
VR is how many percent of the PC games market? 1? 2?
Nobody cares
@@forasago Just like Steam Deck, and they cover that :)
@@ShawnxPerez lol, Ill see you back at this comment in a few years :P
very surprised to hear so many people bemoan the absence of Braking Point when it was mostly uninventive in terms of story and gameplay scenarios
What about the terrible HDR and constant crashing on PC? I had to turn asynchronous compute off to get it to load the career mode without crashing.
I’m also having a lot of issues on PC. Such a shame when it’s essentially the same game as last year with a fresh coat of paint, how did they manage to fuck it up so bad?
When he first said DRS, I thought he meant Drag Reduction System since this is an F1 game but I realized he meant Dynamic Resolution Scaling later on.
What is the resolution in performance mode?
Dynamic 1440p apparently
PS5 can't do that
@@gflow945 in the ps5 settings can't but in games Whit dinamica resolution can do that
I dont understand, where are the Series X extra teraflops?
You saw it on the video screen tearing occured because series x is running much higher fps than 120 while ps5 can only do 120 so no tearing 🤣🤣🤣
At least were done with the magical SSD talk.
@@incognitomode3014 more than 120fps where 💀
@@dmrixr.a5942 it's just excuses for the PS5 performing better
I love me a good Tom Morgan DF Video in the morning :3
The key question is... Is porpoising modelled in the physics engine???
No its not. At least i wont get a headache.
No
No, and although unrealistic, it's the right decision imo.
@@bedegeln Fully agree. It was just a joke
DRS is enabled both in game and the gaming system.
The best feature of F1 2022 is the much better looking & driving new F1 2022 cars, compared to the old gen, from last year and older.
Anything else is just a bonus.
Thanks. I'm sure the 3 people that play it appreciate it.
As long as Denuvo is present in the PC versions (always has been since 2016, and even with new ownership, Codemasters doesn't show it on Steam), its performance will be always limited.
Well, I do play with everyting maxed out, RT disabled, at 1080p 120fps, and the game runs so well, that both CPU and GPU are extremely under used, R5 3600x and RTX 3070, if I turn on RT, it runs at a stable 80 fps and GPU maxed out, that's not really bad for a brand new game with so much RT.
This comment is bullshit
Maybe there is a crack for that. 😅
I think I’ll buy last years if I can. Story mode gives you a feel for being a driver not just a car.
Why'd they deliberately put RT on Series X and S on the cockpit but for PS5 and PC they didn't even try, lol even on PC when you out RT on for gameplay other places only have SSR, this can't be some bug, it feels deliberate
I heard v sync is also a heavy performance cost in this game (like a 40% cost which is absurd) so I want a vrr mode where vsync is disabled and with the extra overhead can either add rt in gameplay or instead unlike the resolution mode up to 120fps
ps 5 just sucks is all.
@@nick13b that's not a valid statement
I didn't see any porpoising issues with the cars in game, which seems a touch unrealistic .
What is the trade off for the 120hz mode? Is it resolution? At which resolution does the consoles run at this refresh rate?
1440p se não me engano. Mas o PS5 não solta um output de 1440p acredito eu, aqui no meu ele roda em 1080p 120hz no modo performance, a diferença de fluidez vale a pena.
probably dynamic 1440p
That Vsync issue would totally pull me out of the game on Xbox Series X. Once again I'm glad I chose the better console (PS5).
1440p if i'm not mistaken. But the ps5 don't output 1440p yet I believe, here the game runs at 1080p 120hz in performance mode, in this type of game the tradeoff is worth it.
@@herbertbalzac vsync issue? A small screen tear in one area that nobody would even notice at 120hz??
Stop fan boying they’re exactly the same..
Can you guys start adding in control latency testing between platforms for these? That would be great!
It depends on the TV , whether people use corded or wireless and even whether they use a particular controller over someone else.
@@DEVILTAZ35 Yes, there are some variables, but its still important, especially if one platform has more inherent latency than the other. Take for example the recent kerfuffle about PS4/5 having way more latency in UE4 fighting games than PC and MS consoles. For games like those, and games like F1, where reactions really matter, it's an important metric. Or the recent DF video about the added latency when using the Fromsoft game hack due to Sony V-sync lag. There's big differences there and comparisons are warranted.
Props to EA and Codemasters for finally supporting VR. They got my purchase on release because of it. I’m hoping they add an MSAA option because TAA or DLSS seems to add a degree of blurriness that MSAA doesn’t have.
and its a total mess
@@oathesis no it isn't
@@TedThomasTT there are bugs , people are experiencing crashes (me included) , and I’m having to jump in and out vr to configure menus … yes it’s a mess
@@oathesis My experience has been good overall. I’m pleased this engine doesn’t seem to require a game restart after changes, like the Madness engine often does.
I hope your situation improves. I suppose peoples experiences vary based on their setup.
@@temjin0014 I’ve just got crazy crashes at the moment .. just going to
Play the game in my steam deck until it’s sorted
Being a massive F1 fan and PC gamer when Tom said DRS I had to think for a second then... Which one 😂
Seen your comment Simon Day 👍
If it's not about the one on the F1 cars, then what is it?
@@imrpovking845
DRS in gaming is Dynamic Resolution Scaling, you only really see it on consoles, occasionally PC games come with it but DLSS and FSR are far better solutions to keep frame rates high with little image quality loss.
When you talk about formula 1 there must be some caution while talking about drs. I probably said this last year and ill say it again (or for the first time): if they reused the assets as heavily as they did since the first game there is no excuses for anything that looks bad. It gets to the point were the little details are still in the same place. If you go to the China track, run the long straight and look to the left in the very end you will see a brazilian flag. It is there since 2009.
It's kinda funny how this recycled game thats rushed out each year is the first car game to support raytracing reflections in actual gameplay (on pc at least).
GT7 couldn't do it and forza horizon cut the feature and has been fighting the pc modders bringing it back ever since.
Honestly, I wouldn't expect more than an incremental update; after all, it's an EGO engine game, which this year turns 15.
Yes!
1080p on Series S, _finally_ developers are starting to grasp that the S in NOT a 1440p console and trying to make it into one hurts my gaming experience.
Give me solid 1080p60 performance, thank you!!
Another game that needs a telescope to recognise raytracing.
Not really, you can clearly see it. If you own a Series X.
@RedHunter nobody did until df told us there’s raytracing on the cockpit on Xbox. And I don’t think anybody would notice it or cared if it was raytraced and this what I mean by raytracing being a buzz word in today’s games. I keep on saying raytracing is pointless if the whole games art and engineering isn’t designed around it. Using raytracing like an instagram filter is the problem in most games today.
Excellent video Tom.
For anyone who had F1 2021 on PC it’s also important to mention that this year DLSS and DRS actually work. Last year the first had massive ghosting issues and the second didn’t work at all. Both is fixed now. What’s not fixed (not sure if it was an issue last year) is V-Sync sucking up up to 40% performance. So when you think, 80FPS without V-Sync would guarantee a smooth 60 with it enabled, don’t get your hopes up. Similar to some Ubisoft games a couple years ago
So what would you suggest if you're in my position. Buying it on PC or PS4?
@@thomaspepping6756 If your PC has enough performance, get that Version. Besides of the mentioned V-Sync issues, I haven't had any technical issues. I have a RTX 3080, running the game on high settings, including Raytracing on high (which is the medium setting), 1440p, V-Sync and DLSS Balanced.
Playing it with a Thrustmaster T300. Wouldn’t want to go back to controller on racing games
@@Jutsch80HD do you think the large performance cost of v sync also affects the console version cause if so I badly want a vrr mode where it’s disabled
@@johannessguten2527 no idea. We’ve often seen techniques that work perfectly fine on consoles but suck on PC, mostly DRS
@@Jutsch80HD i see if it does affect it i hope they give an additional mode where it isn’t used
I'm truly loving the VR feature...👍
What's your setup? I am really interested in buying a Quest 2 to play thjis game on VR
The VR kinda sucks compared to iRacing or AMS2. Anything more than 30 ft out is really blurry.
Great to see the Xbox Series X finally utilizing that power.
I dont see series x using full power at any multi plat game because devs dont wanna embarass ps5 weaker hardware 😂😂🤣🤣 or else sony will remove them from their ecosystem.
Only few devs like hitman 3 didnt care if ps5 performed weaker than series x 🤣🤣🤣coz their not scared to be removed from sony ecosystem 🤣😂
@@incognitomode3014 All the crying emojis must really validate your points.
It supposedly has an advantage over the PS5 yet seems evenly matched. If this is "finally using all that power", then I'm not sure I'll even keep the XSX anymore.
Microsoft had to buy Bethesda to have a schedule in 2023 that was not limited to Forza and completely destroyed Halo's reputation.
The RT thing is obviously a bug but fanboys will still run rampant with this of course.
But not the rainbow artifacts under the car on PS5. That’s not a bug.
The PS5 can’t compete with the power of the Series X and that was to be expected
It's not a bug if it's the same thing every year
@@RubyRose23328 it’s a bug cmon.. the series s is running it. The PS5 could easily especially at 30 FPS.
@@braedonlock3359 Okay show us using your game development knowledge
So what are the differences between Quality and Performance Mode (Resolution, Graphic Settings)...you completely forgot about that.
Don’t know if anyone else has had the same problem but on series x performance I get fps drops from 120 to 80 something in all races. This gets fixed once I use flashback and it gets locked at 120fps. This does not happen in any other game and f1 2021 work fine locked at 120fps for me, even in rainy Monaco.
Damn Tom your gpu is like rtx 3070 class in raster performance and that's like £469. Seems like an upgrade is in order slumming it with that old Titan.
Graphically, this series is still very Sega'ish in it's bright solid colours. It's sad that 2 yrs after next generation hardware was released, they're still releasing last-gen games with a bit of added sparkle. The lighting is all just so last-gen. 120million PS4s in the world means this is the way it's going to be for another few years. The games industry is in such a terrible lull at the moment
I think the game looks fantastic. Im not going to tell you that you are wrong. But Id suggest not putting so much stock into the graphics not being top of the line. Just sucks the fun out of gaming for me at least.
Gaming being in a lull because its not pushing graphical boundaries sounds kinda..i dunno not accurrate. Looking at the numbers, the majority of gamers are playing games that released years or even a decade ago. So most of us arent really feeling a lull. We're good.
Biggest problem is AAA and even AA games take years to develop, and devkits arrived late.
Remember that rdna2 features were available on pc since the old rtx20 series, but the majority of pc players are using old hardware.
@@vandammage1747 Yes I know, it's not a good situation to be in. 3 or 4 yrs to release a game. The 'Worth A Buy' channel on here did a great video comparing the number of games released a decade ago in one year, compared to one year now. The difference was jaw-dropping in terms of games released in a single 12 month period. Add to that, that a new GTA title is now taking 13 yrs to release, is a terrible warning for the future of gaming
I think they just don’t want to reinvent the wheel. As they have no real competition in f1 games
All the more reason to support fully new gen games coming out in the near future like TLOU Part 1, Dead Space Remake, and RE4 even though these all ironically have roots in previous gens lol.
Im not to fussed about graphics for this game, I just wanna use the damn mouse!
Surprised that there was no mention of how blurry the PC version is at 4K, with TAA or DLSS. I'm running a 3090 on a 77" LG C1, and find it very smeared/blurry compared to GT7.
Something with the implementation. Also is the c1 a good tv for a pc and console
@@johannessguten2527 it’s the best TV you can buy for PC and console. I have had four LG OLEDs in the last four years. Nothing else comes close.
@@GunSlingerAUS1 would you reccomend i get one for Black Friday? I’m looking to get a ps5 my first ever pc with a 4090 and maybe even a series x
When you make a video about a F1 game, you might not want to use the "DRS" abbreviation multiple times for something that is not a Drag Reduction System.
Great work Tom, why om is not in weekly monday talk...
He has another full time job
@@Rebelscum264 Rich needs to raise his salary then.
Codemasters / EA have no plans to bring VR support to the PS5.
I have no plans to purchase the game at this time.
Perhaps some other year's version will get there after the release of the PSVR 2.
So is the difference in power between SX and PS5 finally showing up?
Racing Point is on a two-year development cycle, so will make its way back into the game in the 2023 release 😊
Pretty impressed by the Series S version,
What's the resolution on PS5 / XSX on the 120hz mode?
1080 or 1440
Just don't buy it for a few months and wait for it to go on sale. They release a "new game" every year at full price, which is highway robbery imo.
Thanks, Tom!
It's very nice that you always consider Xbox Series S, other channels usually doesn't mention it, it's an amazing tiny console and true next gen at 1080/1440p.
And it will only get better when devs start utilising tech like fsr 2.0 to get max visual quality. Next years game will be 1440p I would guess
which channels don't talk about it or show it? most graphical comparison channels i watch do include it as well as last gen a lot of the time.
It had some drops on 2021 if im not mistaken. Now is running perfectly at 60 on 2022. They optimized it well for series s. Bummer no 120 FPS i was having a blast on 120 FPS earlier makes fast paced racing games so much better.
Even if they had to drop to 720p they should still give the option.
Is that why it's running below 1080p?
@@adrianhosein7698 runs much better than the majority of gaming pc's.
That clip where he said DRS is enabled had it closed.
Wait, are you saying there's actual raytraced reflections on Series S?
Or are they screen space reflections?
What resolution is the 120FPS mode on Series X/ PS5 ?
4K on XSX and 1440p checkerboard on PS5..
Both run at 1440p, dont listen to fanboys.
Both machines are behaving super great, really. Devs did a great work on this game
@@Psyrgery You seem mad…why?
@Psyrgery yeah tfb, I doubt there wouldn’t be parity between the two, it’s the norm with codemasters. But 1440p looks pretty good on 4k TV. I have both, still gunna get it on XSX tho.👌
@@PantherCrane This guy is spreading misinformation. Sadly it's not illegal to spread misinformation.
All 3 consolas are doing a great job,series consoles on top 👍👍
@Michael ps5 has inferior rt
@@vandammage1747 So does PC. Microsoft probably paid the devs to enable it only on the Xbox Series.
Series S is not on top of anything, dude. And Series X has screen-tearing at 120fps, while PS5 doesn't.
XD fanboys detected
@@gamecamacos but if i wouldve said ps5 on top??
F1 on PC has had DLSS for the last 4 games now? Definitely 22, 2021, 2020 and I think 2019 as well!
High not very informative regarding the 120fps mode. Does it play better ? Is the resolution drop worth the extra FPS?
what is the resolution running the game at 120fps on xbox series?
1080p probably
1440p more than likely
720p
480i
Same as last year’s
Not impressed with the graphics for this One, last year edition looked last gen. They could do much better taking in consideration the type of game
Especially after seeing Forza Motor Sport . The only good thing is 10 hrs free on Series X thanks to Ea and gamepass lol
@@adrenalinejunkie3828 i thought the 2080 súper was alright though
_"even on a Titan RTX"_
You talk about that card like it's still 2018.
How can you even use something like that, working for Digital Foundry in 2022?
Shouldn't you get a modern card?
Is it the 2080 ti he is talking about?
Disappointing that F1 2022 on PS5 still doesn't have voice support. I'm not sure if this is available on Xbox Series X or PC. The only reason I bought it on PS5 is because I have a Logitech G29 steering wheel, which to my knowledge doesn't work on the Series X...although I should really try it one of these days...
It's also a shame that when you're leaving the garage during Practice for example, when the camera is showing the inside view (steering wheel on the car), it still jitters for a lack of a better word when the steering wheel is turning, it isn't one smooth motion.
Game looks insane graphically, but as with any game nowadays I have to wonder, does it have a good single player mode or is it all geared to online?
F1 2021 had a fantastic career mode. i assume this one still has that game mode
Codies' F1 games always have excellent single player/career mode, in my opinion at least. The 2 player co op career is also fun.
Have you got ego dumper crashes during pc testing? (Im on 12900k/3090) Got them every 5 to 50 minutes, even in the menus... 😕
Not on 22 but it happened quite often on 20 and 21. Haven't tried 22 on Multiplayer but that is when I usually get those crashes in the others (Ryzen 7 1700x and RTX 2060 with 32GB RAM at 3200mhz)
DLSS was in F1 2021. Also the game is called F1 22, not F1 2022.
Cry
I've had it on performance mode all this time, despite my TV only doing 60fps,lol.
Could you give some information on the split screen on the series x?
An option for just cockpit raytracing with more agressive DRS would be nice to have on PS5 and PC, if I understood correctly that's only on the Xbox consoles right now and possibly as a bug.
not a bug, Series X is just a beast.
@@nick13b pc should have it
How on earth can anyone be upset the Seires S didn't have 120 fps in 2021? It's a $299.00 console!
To be fair, Microsoft marketed it as the exact same product as the X but running at 1080p or 1440. 120fps, ray tracing, everything. Just lower resolution. And it seemed possible, given the almost identical processor and about the same fraction of GPU as the resolution downgrade. So I don't blame people for being upset that the Series S has been a major let down that often doesn't feature ray tracing, doesn't do 60fps, or doesn't match graphical fidelity (and often doesn't hit native 1080p even).
I hope that they will work on the faces for next years game. They are all in the uncanny valley territory😳
"Makeup, can we get some subsurface scattering on Will Buxton?"
Great work!!!
I have a PS5 and I'll be buying the XBSX as soon as they have them in stock near me. I want the best of both worlds so I can play the best console version of the next-gen games.
You might want to hold off on this one. If the performance is better on the PS5 and it just needs a patch for cockpit mode, like on PC, it is probably the best console version.
@@mitchelljenkins4815 There is no BEST CONSOLE
all of the consoles have their respectable advantages.
@@nerowalker7530 I was talking about this version of the game. Not the consoles themselves.
Good mindset you have 🤜🤛
@@mitchelljenkins4815 there is another comparison video showing the Series X performance beating the PS5 in this game... wonder who is right? 🤔
I got my answer about 120 fps on PS5. Thank you!
Shadow maps look a bit better on 22 as well.
I am tempted to buy the Xbox One version on my Series X to save some $$$
I'm having frames and framtime issues on the PS5. I tried the game with my secondary account and theres no problem at all. Only with my main account. Any tips?
how in the world you forgot to mention the resolution on performance mode ???? What is it?
5:00 Is that a youtube compression issue or is the screen tearing that obvious in game?
Am I right in thinking this game uses screen-space ray tracing?
Thomas Morgan - still the best analyst on here by a country mile. So much more succinct.
It's a bit strange that Series X & S feature ray-traced reflections while PS5 & PC replace some with screen-space reflections.
probably a bug as he says multiple times.
Because the developers are not good
Bug
Bug on PC, possibly performance saving for ps5
@@Mo-eh1bq Probably a bug on PS5 too considering even the Series S has RT in that part of the cockpit.
Can we do PC reviews that don't target the highest of high end? This is borderline useless. Can we get tests on mid range AMD and Nvidia cards or at least a range of low medium and high end.
Or do what Ales does. Give recommended settings for PC comparable to SX/PS5.
The problem with this review is that there is nothing about graphical settings other than RT and resolution.
It's not borderline useless, it's entirely useless? "My Titan RTX couldn't maintain 60 fps so I locked the framerate to 30 in a racing game" ??? The only relevant information in this statement is "the RT performance is unplayable".
The Xbox version seem to run smoother than the PC version in the side by side 🤔
Where are the VR tests?
No one cares about VR
Very very small percentage of people care for or even have VR.
@@RubyRose23328 I care
@@mrglass7133 wrong!!! Xbot
@Michael Oh? So tell me why is it not available for Quest 2? You know the largest VR platform
Got really confused when DRS was mentioned...