Forza Horizon 5 Tech Analysis: An Xbox Series X Masterpiece

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  • Update: Dolby Vision was fixed after we raised the issue in this video and is now supported. Enjoy!
    Playground Games' Forza Horizon 5 is finally complete - a cross-generation game perhaps, but one where the next generation features deliver a new level in fidelity for the franchise and for the Xbox platform. Join John Linneman for this phenomenally detailed breakdown of the technology in the new game.
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  • @zachsteiner
    @zachsteiner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1816

    What a beautifully optimized game. Why can’t all games run like this? Almost 100% locked and very slight resolution dips. What an amazing technical achievement.

    • @Gabeiellopes
      @Gabeiellopes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +320

      It requires too much effort make a game optimized like that, and more effort = more cost. And companies like Ubisoft, ea, activision don't want too much cost

    • @bankaispirits
      @bankaispirits 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@Gabeiellopes lmao literally

    • @Anonymous-Wolf
      @Anonymous-Wolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@Gabeiellopes you can also count rock star with em

    • @twocityfoodies8476
      @twocityfoodies8476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      First party titles are always like this. It is why they are so key to a consoles success.

    • @mikem2253
      @mikem2253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      This is why exclusives always seem to be better than multiplatform releases (console-wise).

  • @xburk550
    @xburk550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +456

    This is basically the quality of Flight Sim on Series S/X and PC. Game Pass is truly starting to provide amazing options. The future looks so bright for Microsoft.

    • @phamson9435
      @phamson9435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Gamepass is the reason i'm on my xbox most of the time instead of my ps5 which has been gathering dust since i completed GoT and Ratchet n Clank
      Such an amazing value gamepass is, it has the latest games and the library is huge
      Looking back i don't even know why i subscribed to PS Now lol

    • @TheLightningYu
      @TheLightningYu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Don't get me wrong, i'm kinda happy for all of you guys the Gamepass exist, due it opens up to more players. But i'm still more classic in that regard and prefer to own said games...

    • @Neilos-sd6ti
      @Neilos-sd6ti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@TheLightningYu everyone can choose so thats the good part, its good to be a gamer rn.

    • @sean70729
      @sean70729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@TheLightningYu I don't get it xbox gives you both there is no decision to make.

    • @OniiXGaming
      @OniiXGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@TheLightningYu you can still buy your games with Xbox.

  • @GeminiFate
    @GeminiFate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    All the developers involved in this game should hold their head high at this technical achievement. Truly masterclass.

    • @Shockload
      @Shockload 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmao no, the PC Port fucking sucked, full of glitches and bugs, they did the launch now patch later

  • @swayamkrishnan8273
    @swayamkrishnan8273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +590

    This game is gorgeous. One of, if not the best looking games of this generation. Hats off to Playground Games for pulling off this masterpiece!

    • @kwright663
      @kwright663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Yep, Microsoft strucked gold with acquiring Playground Games. Can’t wait to see what Fable is going to be like

    • @kizzgizz
      @kizzgizz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@kwright663 was just about to say the same thing, fable is gonna look crazy.
      The fact they've been able to get the performance mode rendering at 4k still is astounding.

    • @neilranson4185
      @neilranson4185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Can’t deny that! But still as gorgeous as it is can you imagine what forza horizon 6 will look like when it doesn’t have to scale/run at all on a nearly 10 year old xbox one. An amazing job for a last gen/cross Gen game.

    • @kwright663
      @kwright663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@neilranson4185 Forza 6 is going to look so good👌👌

    • @-1nterruption-960
      @-1nterruption-960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I wouldn't say of this generation only because there will be games on next gen that exceed this soon. It is a stunning game however. Playground games are masterful. Microsoft has a much stronger lineup of devs this time around

  • @thesprawl2361
    @thesprawl2361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +370

    Horizon has developed into an obsession of mine. I set it separate from games I love as works of art as single player experiences. Games like Bloodborne, BOTW, Hollow Knight, etc. I love those games, I could talk about them for hours. But as for what takes up the majority of my gaming time? There's no contest, it's Horizon. Playground really have turned Horizon into a gaming playground for me. I don't even like online gaming, but Horizon implements it in such a carefree, no-friction kind of way that I play Horizon 4 daily, to this day, three years after it first came out. Just finding someone, joining their convoy, and drifting across the map in a tune of my own creation(Racing The Tide my Xbox handle btw :) ).
    It's approachable while being incredibly deep. Insanely deep. You could(and I regularly do) lose yourself entirely in single aspects of it; like drifting, without ever even getting seriously into grip racing, livery designing, rally racing, event creation, etc. etc. I believe it is pretty much the most perfectly balanced simcade handling model of all-time(I'm not going to get into an argument about how you define simcade, so please, don't bother), in that it is obviously circumscribed when compared with something like BeamNG or Assetto, or even Forza Motorsport, yet its physics model is still extraordinarily deep and emergent, and its 'competitors' like NFS Heat and The Crew are not in the same galaxy. It is the handling and physics model that really underpins everything about this game.
    The best way to get across how great this series is is to describe myself in 2016, before I ever bought Horizon 3. I had no interest in cars, and the only car games I played were Burnout. If you had to use the brakes at any point I considered that too much like hard work. Then I played Horizon 3...and quite quickly I became obsessed with it. I fell in love with cars. I started playing other racing games. Then all of them. I bought a Fanatec wheel, pedals, shifter, handbrake, and bought a gaming PC specifically so I could get into sim-racing and Assetto modding. I now watch car youtube channels, something I would have thought was the most boring thing on earth back before Horizon.
    None of that would have happened if it wasn't for Horizon. When they said they wanted to 'turn gamers into car lovers and car lovers into gamers' I can say with certainty that they did so with me.

    • @nikipavlin8032
      @nikipavlin8032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Beautiful comment

    • @thesprawl2361
      @thesprawl2361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@nikipavlin8032 Thanks :)

    • @SheepAmongG.O.A.T
      @SheepAmongG.O.A.T 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mine are more the FPSs especially the PVP so I gots a treat coming.

    • @thesprawl2361
      @thesprawl2361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@SheepAmongG.O.A.T Halo Infinite?

    • @SheepAmongG.O.A.T
      @SheepAmongG.O.A.T 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thesprawl2361 yup can't wait.

  • @Aristowi
    @Aristowi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +803

    The fact that this game is included on Game Pass is tremendously good.

    • @wifine1951
      @wifine1951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Game pass is the future

    • @kevinkevin1820
      @kevinkevin1820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yes, as are all Xbox first-party games.

    • @I_Negan_I
      @I_Negan_I 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Gamepass is king. I don't even have to buy the game when all I gotta do is wait a few days to play it via gamepass.

    • @paularnold4021
      @paularnold4021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Gamepass is the reason I bought a series s

    • @Aristowi
      @Aristowi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@paularnold4021 It's a good deal, a year playing games and the console becomes free

  • @vanillagorilla3980
    @vanillagorilla3980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +410

    As a Playstation fan FH5 is absolutely stunning. Well done Microsoft and Playground.

    • @JJ-fk5ys
      @JJ-fk5ys 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You a fan LMAO 🤣

    • @kriskater
      @kriskater 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Right ? I’m like *sigh* time to buy another Xbox. As a lifelong PlayStation user and fan I absolutely had to buy a Xbox one to play FH3 and Halo. I’ll be getting a ps5 first but you best believe I will be buying a series x in the future for the main sole reason of playing FH5

    • @Tinbeef22
      @Tinbeef22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kriskater you lying to yourself. Xbox fans don't buy games.

    • @mash2481
      @mash2481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Tinbeef22 lol! Yeah, right.

    • @marcusray2872
      @marcusray2872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@Tinbeef22 I buy games and I play Xbox. 🤷‍♂️

  • @Slayer-33
    @Slayer-33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This game is absolutely bananas, the fact that you can hop onto photo mode on the spot and angle up any car and it looks f'ing incredible is a testament to the incredible achievement that playground achieved. It's f'ing CRAZY. The graphics, the details, the sound, holy shit it's awe inspiring.

  • @lucasflatter819
    @lucasflatter819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    He's right about the sound! I'm really impressed with how I can hear cars pulling up behind me, along with the usage of the height channels that are often ignored in games with Atmos.

  • @alexandervolgzangief6759
    @alexandervolgzangief6759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    "Masterpiece" is indeed a suitable word to describe Forza Horizon 5.

    • @MichaelDoesLife
      @MichaelDoesLife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He would've said racing game of the generation had it been only on PlayStation...

    • @joey26525
      @joey26525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MichaelDoesLife yeah he's a mug isn't he?

    • @fenbops
      @fenbops 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MichaelDoesLife without a doubt. He’s a guy who openly dislikes Xbox while gushing over PlayStation every chance.

  • @leviharris6944
    @leviharris6944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    2021 has been a surprising year for me -- my top three games are Psychonauts 2, Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart, and Guardians of the Galaxy -- three games I had no intention of playing or even enjoying. This, however, is the one game I've been waiting for since it was announced and I'm so happy it looks like it won't disappoint.

    • @scottd7222
      @scottd7222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Check out Returnal. My favorite of the year so far.

    • @AkshayKumarX
      @AkshayKumarX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scottd7222 Hoping Returnal comes to PC as per the leak, I was really impressed by that game even though I found the marketing subpar, maybe just confusing.

  • @HorseheadNebula85
    @HorseheadNebula85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Excellent work as always, John. I'm just stunned, honestly. I'm a PS acolyte through and through, but what Microsoft has been doing this generation - putting games of this caliber on a subscription service DAY 1 - is truly commendable. I have never been a racing fan, but I dipped my toes into Forza Horizon 4 and thought "wow, I really like this."
    I'm all-in for Forza Horizon 5.

    • @thedude8128
      @thedude8128 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ummm it's their own game. It's not a challenge to put this on gp when it's all they've put out for the $1bn they made from gamepass this year 🙄🤦🏼‍♂️
      Arw xbots this daft?

    • @Ayydee624
      @Ayydee624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@thedude8128 bruh I dropped Xbox for ps this gen but Microsoft could have easily banked off charging full price only

    • @Larry-um6tx
      @Larry-um6tx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Im happy that its exclusive ❤️ and the New bethesda games will exclusive too, f you bro

    • @skid6641
      @skid6641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's the very first game of this caliber to go to gamepass day 1

    • @Torraim
      @Torraim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve always said the newest PlayStation and a good pc is the best combination, and that’s more true now than ever.

  • @Sveakungen
    @Sveakungen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This presentation is "next gen", fantastic editing and narration! Wow!

  • @akumafuhen
    @akumafuhen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Fable is going to mind-blowing visually

    • @theichi4135
      @theichi4135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Facts

    • @bingram2011
      @bingram2011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I.... can't.... wait....

  • @dangiambrone7350
    @dangiambrone7350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Most impressive. I would love to see this attention to detail and tech being used in a new PGR game.

    • @ronaldgreen9167
      @ronaldgreen9167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You and me both

    • @MrML4L
      @MrML4L 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I think there alot of shared stuff with horizon and PGR. I think quite a few ex-PGR developers work there.

    • @ste29
      @ste29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh man, would love another PGR..

    • @R1ckmister
      @R1ckmister 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Horizon is literally PGR. We won’t see pgr again.
      Surprised you say that as the Ferrari footage screamed PGR to me.

    • @Rdeboer
      @Rdeboer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imagine a PGR remake in which you can cruise around the cities open world style with other players like in Forza Horizon and make custom content.

  • @Alphahunter_IX
    @Alphahunter_IX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    What a great Time to have a Series X and be able to enjoy this masterpiece ❤️😍

  • @DanJackielz
    @DanJackielz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I have nothing but respect for Playground Games for making such efforts to push the limits and optimize their games. Also to not rush to release in an incomplete state, especially in todays world where it pretty much became the norm to release a game each year even at the cost of quality, innovation, and buggines. It probably has to do with the publisher Xbox as well but idk.

  • @mhjmstultiens
    @mhjmstultiens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for including the audio performance in your analysis! I'd love to see a heavier focus on it in the future, as a great soundscape (as you already described) can elevate a good game to even greater heights.

  • @zaiaku3430
    @zaiaku3430 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hearing Wangan Midnight's - Blue Blazes gave me chills at 2:00
    This game is a spectacle.

  • @Fabiankxx
    @Fabiankxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Playground Games is a beast. This is the one game that makes me want a Series X. There's nothing similar on ps5. Amazing game, i enjoyed a lot this series on 360 e One.

    • @fartknocker5708
      @fartknocker5708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      FH5 looks like it's going to be the first certified classic of the generation. PS5 has had some good releases but nothing jaw dropping like this. I highly recommend getting an Xbox! I have both PS5 and XSX, and the Xbox still gets a ton of use from me. With it's vast back compat library, superior back compat capabilities for cross-plat games (AutoHDR, resolution and FPS boost), and the incredible deal that is Game Pass, it's a fantastic system that is a huge step up from the XB1.

    • @fenbops
      @fenbops 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fartknocker5708 I second this.

    • @envymeow
      @envymeow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fartknocker5708 vouch

    • @luke_y_444
      @luke_y_444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@fartknocker5708 For me, Demon's Souls Remake is also a masterpiece. And on the series X, we got FS2020 last summer. FH5 is the second masterpiece on the machine =)

    • @fartknocker5708
      @fartknocker5708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@luke_y_444 I wouldn't really know about Demon's Souls because while I have it and have played it several times, I still can't get past the first level (even when following a guide). I'm sure I could, but I don't have the free time to pour hours and hours into it just to get a tiny bit of progression. It's tough for me to believe that a game that's that inaccessible can be called a masterpiece.

  • @Junito87
    @Junito87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I already own a PS5 and yesterday I bought a Series X and forza blew me away, looks and plays amazing

  • @apexpredator8395
    @apexpredator8395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I can't wait for Forza Motorsport 8.

  • @martinlemnian2472
    @martinlemnian2472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Really great looking game. I'm looking forward to play it in a couple of days.
    But the bug at 25:15 was hilarious.

    • @lorenzozanelli3437
      @lorenzozanelli3437 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you ninjed me

    • @spenny2cents
      @spenny2cents 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That car has hops, hope we can get the same upgrade!

    • @R.B.
      @R.B. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, just commented on that myself. I wasn't the only one to catch that I guess. If this were FH3, I'd suspect Drop Bears.

    • @jvillaro
      @jvillaro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What bug?

    • @martinlemnian2472
      @martinlemnian2472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jvillaro at 25:15 there is a car in the oncoming traffic that jumps/pops almost into the ceiling of the tunnel.

  • @ledooni
    @ledooni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Hoping for PC coverage from Alex regarding graphical differences to console, comparing Steam and Microsoft Store versions and giving us optimized settings 💪

    • @metalmacias6632
      @metalmacias6632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Alex is probably going to review it negatively and say that the game is too vulgar because the exotic cars are too sexy.

    • @Aggrofool
      @Aggrofool 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just buy a 3090

    • @bearpuns5910
      @bearpuns5910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@metalmacias6632 Please, for the sake of the rest of us, go outside and mate with grass.

    • @CarlosDiaz-is8cu
      @CarlosDiaz-is8cu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the 3090 review yeah

    • @Spartan_83
      @Spartan_83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Aggrofool i'm not spending that much on just a GPU alone lol

  • @thiagovidal6137
    @thiagovidal6137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here is an idea for Forza Horizon 6 - Vice City. I mean.. Miami in the 80s. All cars only up to 1989 and the same for the songs and radios. Replica of Miami and we are set. That would be the most nostalgia filled Forza yet.

  • @ggboss5065
    @ggboss5065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    As a PlayStation user, I wanna buy an Xbox Series X just for this game!

    • @WillOnCode
      @WillOnCode 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well buy it I got a ps5 for God of war ect

    • @joeydirt420
      @joeydirt420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      get a PC much smarter move. You can play all xbox games at higher quality, and all the extra perks of having a pc.

    • @cmdr101z8
      @cmdr101z8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You could play it on PC if you have one

    • @apfelschorle1988
      @apfelschorle1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could play it with xCloud for cheap if your connection is good enough.

    • @theforerunners5171
      @theforerunners5171 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@joeydirt420 true, if you want to spend $1000+.

  • @duckpwnd
    @duckpwnd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 15:15, at least to me, that is photorealistic. I would not be able to tell that's a videogame unless someone told me.

  • @icekool239
    @icekool239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Roll on next Tuesday!!! Love it when John is clearly enthusiastic about a title, the breakdowns are all the better for that!

  • @JurisKankalis
    @JurisKankalis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Amazing review. Weirdly enough, reviews by reviewers who actually enjoy the game in question tend to be some of the best reviews. Also - if any game would be able to single-handedly press me into buying the new XBOX, this would make the Top 3. Well done - and greetings from Latvia.

  • @UNIxo00
    @UNIxo00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After buying this game i fell in love! i've been playing forza horizon games ever since horizon 2, and forza horizon 5 is defiantly the best out of them all, makes me feel like a little kid again lol

  • @dargis49
    @dargis49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just the video I was waiting for. The guys at Playground games are super talented. Some of the best devs out there.

  • @XxMrWink3rxX
    @XxMrWink3rxX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol Anyone else notice the NPC coming off the ceiling of the tunnel at 25:13?

  • @Ashes2Ashes
    @Ashes2Ashes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It actually supports Dolby Vision HDR now. Was added at early access launch
    Simply stunning in the mode

  • @zuflucht1387
    @zuflucht1387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I knew it would be a good "Forza" but this game is really a MasterpiecE.

  • @VithorLeal
    @VithorLeal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Forza Horizon has been my favorite game for a few years now. It's got the perfect combination of sim and arcade and it's very well optimized. Been playing since the 3rd game since I only play on PC. Amazing. Can't wait for tomorrow!

  • @Kenjionigod
    @Kenjionigod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember thinking Dirt 5 looked pretty good, but this really makes it look last gen.

    • @Rapunzel879
      @Rapunzel879 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dirt5 looks so bad in comparison. Forza is cornering the market with these stunning visuals.

  • @edwardlthompson
    @edwardlthompson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That minivan dropping from the celing of the tunnel at 25:15 LMAO!

  • @DeanT1987
    @DeanT1987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    While GT7 is currently the best sim racing game out it doesn’t impress graphically as much as this game. This game is way bigger in scope (open world) and it feels that way. The attention to detail is amazing and almost over done but highly appreciated. It’s much easier to make a closed track visually appealing but a huge open world like this takes a lot more work and there’s just no comparison out there. Not even Forza Motorsport 8 will be this detailed with the exception of car models.

    • @007Dcastillo
      @007Dcastillo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Forza Motorsport 8 will be using the new version of the same game engine called "Forza Tech", since Turn10 is the one which develops the engine and all the tools for this game. Thats why you see the advice: "Turn10 and xbox game studios presents" a playground games event.

  • @indraneeldassxd
    @indraneeldassxd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    25:14 the traffic car hop lmao, Btw gr8 work done by DF for explaining the tech involved for such cross gen game

  • @OgoTheKeeper
    @OgoTheKeeper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I started watching this video, I thought to myself, this game reminds me of driveclub from a visuals perspective. The during John’s intro to the vehicles, he plays a snippet of the driveclub loading music.

    • @acevedoaandres
      @acevedoaandres 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only ps fan said that driveclub looks good. Its a piece of s..Even digital foundry was hard on graphics. I bought a ps4 pro and go to play the suppose to be a great looks ng game. Then i realize how stupid a fanboy could be. Piece of crap in every category. Crap!!

    • @VariantAEC
      @VariantAEC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@acevedoaandres
      Uh... no they didn't. If memory serves they were harsh on the AA implementation in Driveclub only.
      Driveclub still looks better than this game and it features SSR on car bodies in game faking RT even though it's a last gen game with no PS4 Pro enhancements. Additionally Driveclub's weather effects are also an improvement over what is shown here in FH5 and things like POM were also used liberally on tracks and building surfaces. Volumetrics were everywhere with SSS and appropriate translucency for plants... again things that DF says are new to FH (which isn't strictly true but it certainly doesn't look right in FH4), but were already a thing modeled correctly in Driveclub.
      Driveclub's weather systems are very dynamic and while you wouldn't see a dust storm in Chile literally all other forms of weather are accounted for including rain, snow, aurora and lightning which was only just featured for the first time in the base game with FH5, but again was in Driveclub (although added post launch it is shown everywhere).
      Clouds are also volumtric fully dynamic casting appropriate shade, GI and even being factored into dynamic cubemap reflections so glass doesn't show a void for sky reflections. That said other Volumetrics in Driveclub were more accomplished than previous Forza Motorsport and Horizon titles. It looks like Playground Games is just catching up with regards to accurate light transport with respect to volumetric effects on smoke clouds. Wind also seems to hardly be a consideration for plumes of smoke in previous Forza Motorsport and Horizon titles.
      Seriously if I break things down point by point FH5 is still catching up to Driveclub and so too is Microsoft Flight Simulator (which still looks better than this so long as you fly an appropriate distance away from the ground; enough to showcase massive levels of detail but far enough to hide the seams).
      Driveclub was so far ahead of its time it is still the bar to beat in my personal opinion. However my opinions aside when you look at Driveclub objectively in terms of the shear number of visual effects being run in realtime at 30FPS in 1080p in a game... the closest comparison is Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020) for PC specifically and even so the PC struggles to keep things looking as good as Driveclub particularly clouds and reflections in water bodies. It's actually quite odd that a PS4 exclusive from 2014 is still neck and neck with the latest PC and Xbox games.
      Meanwhile other PS4 and PS5 games are pushing settings similar to Driveclub today like Ghost of Tsushima and Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart.
      Bottom line this game while much better looking than previous Forza games - by quite a bit - it's still playing catch up to the best looking games already out there including some open world titles like Death Stranding and Ghost of Tsushima.
      Anyway that's all from me... go away now.

  • @BOSSSHAWN
    @BOSSSHAWN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This game has that WOW factor. If you have a brand new 4K TV do yourself a favor I speak from experience. Get a Xbox Series X|S immediately download Forza Horizon 5 and watch as your jaw drops at the graphics. There is no game with this level of graphics currently on the market. This is the first game I would say actually looks better than real life. The graphics are insane. 🔥🔥🔥

  • @gmoney1115
    @gmoney1115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I play on performance mode I have noticed pop in on the bushes on the side of the road, it's like they're half loaded. It's very distracting, has anyone else noticed this?

  • @odinsplaygrounds
    @odinsplaygrounds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video! Beautifully put together. Reminds me of DF retro, love the technical analysis.

  • @cd-rommasterclass19
    @cd-rommasterclass19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Enthusia, man, that intro hit the spot just right, the musica is beautiful, that game was a wonder on
    PS2.

  • @ForExampleJon
    @ForExampleJon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    26:53 Forza Horizon 2 intro with the meditation style video leading into Eric Prydz -Liberate. Will never forget that moment.

  • @goob8945
    @goob8945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jesus, native 4K with 4X MSAA?!? They did not mess about getting this beast to run

    • @MrEditsCinema
      @MrEditsCinema 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's weird though, MSAA isn't demanding on the forza horizon games even at 4K. They must have thier own unique implementation, in other games you get a HUGE fps hit with MSAA at any setting

    • @goob8945
      @goob8945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrEditsCinema interesting, would love to see the technology behind it because the result is fantastic. We can call it FHAA 😂

  • @mopar426power
    @mopar426power 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm blown away by the level of detail Playground Games packed into this game. Can't wait to see what they do with Fable. Fable is in good hands for sure.

  • @vantagepointwithkeli
    @vantagepointwithkeli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is a game to buy even if its just appreciate the tech on offer.

    • @ActNasty5
      @ActNasty5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imagine how car enthusiasts feel rn then 🥳🥴🤤

  • @piewars12345
    @piewars12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That intro actually made me tear up. Damn you John!

  • @OrbZero
    @OrbZero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    25:16 blue car on the left gets so scared it jumps.

    • @Wally17.
      @Wally17. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, good eye.

  • @diligaf1000
    @diligaf1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Series x starting to show it's strength, this looks amazing.

  • @noeru9767
    @noeru9767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @ 25:15 a car glitched on the opposite road haha

  • @megazine
    @megazine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gamers have no idea how important sound is. It’s sad the video game community and developers are stuck in that traditional mindset that visual is one of the most important factors in gaming. Audiophile and videophiles both argue sound is more important by majority. I hope with SX and PS5 audio becomes much more important. 3D audio/spatial is finally moving in the right position but we need to push devs more and that falls on the gaming communities demand.

  • @Fanto_Sir
    @Fanto_Sir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always such a premium quality video experience with DF. Keep up the good work, you guys are amazing.

  • @JohnKowalskyDrive
    @JohnKowalskyDrive 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The engine audio has been improved on all of the cars I've tried so far, but what I don't understand is why they only make use of the low frequencies in the 2 cockpit views. As soon as you switch to outside cameras the sound falls flat.
    In cockpit view you can feel the rumble of the exhaust on low revs, it's amazing.

  • @JessedoesDIY
    @JessedoesDIY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so pumped for Horizon and can't wait for the next Motorsport as well. So glad a game is actually just going to work at launch, and work flawlessly. I agree with everything you said, except the music, I almost already turn it down just so it's on but I can barely hear it. I can still enjoy it, but for me it's all about hearing the cars and environment

  • @R.B.
    @R.B. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 25:15, a car just drops into the tunnel from the ceiling... Amusing defect for a gorgeous title.

  • @R1ckmister
    @R1ckmister 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Been playing this today by purchasing the Premium add on and changing my system’s region.
    Honestly don’t see how gran turismo 7 & my ps5 will get my attention come March. Let alone COD tomorrow.
    Normally never buy DLC for games, I’m glad I supported it more than just game pass.
    Audio my word! Never seen my 5.1 system get such a flex! A completely pleasing assault on your ears
    Also doing British game developers proud! American studios need to take note.

    • @griffgames9538
      @griffgames9538 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, it's Motorsport to compare to Gran Turismo. That's the sensible face-off.
      Those are track racers.
      Kinda' apples/oranges to compare a Horizon to a GT.

  • @bluesrike
    @bluesrike 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did I seriously hear "Blue Blazes" at 2:01? I see someone over there is a racer of culture.

  • @jakej722
    @jakej722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This game is truly impressive - what a rock solid release.

  • @briangarvin8867
    @briangarvin8867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ‘Pushing a great game towards the heavens!!’ AMEN BROTHER excellent breakdown/review with exceptional insight and intelligently communicated in an creative manner, DF always raising the journalistic bar and offering exceptional gaming tech review content. Hard work appreciated; achievement earned and unlocked once again.

  • @timreganato5522
    @timreganato5522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've never owned an actual racing game, besides Star Wars Pod Racer lol, this will be my first and I can't wait to play it! Hats off to Playground games! Thank you for your hard work!

  • @lvcifer00
    @lvcifer00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This game looks amazing, Great video!!

  • @HarryDetective
    @HarryDetective 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a relatively new Xbox owner, I cannot wait to try this tonight. PlayStation has been rather dry lately.

  • @originalbob6451
    @originalbob6451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think I've ever seen a game that looks so much like real life, even up close

  • @selohcin
    @selohcin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Note the foliage shots starting at 17:30. These are better graphics than Crysis in a 60-frames-per-second racing game on a console. This engine is so robust and scalable that it could be used for on-foot open-world action games!

    • @MMoer
      @MMoer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hence fable which they will produce this time.

  • @priscillaasagiri4913
    @priscillaasagiri4913 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    25:15 car falls from the sky lol! Great game anyway! 40+ hours on it and loving it.

  • @lemming77gode
    @lemming77gode 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superb review/analysis again, John. Really nice to watch.

  • @joel_holmes
    @joel_holmes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    25:15 there’s a beautiful moment with the car on the left

  • @drumnbassdan
    @drumnbassdan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The series S is looking even more of a bargain for gamers as a second console, happy i got one along with my pc/ps5 :D

    • @gnarkilleptic4871
      @gnarkilleptic4871 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont see a point in getting one if you have a PC though

    • @nomenomeha30anosatras33
      @nomenomeha30anosatras33 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gnarkilleptic4871 Don't forget that not everyone has an RTX.

  • @Warhamr
    @Warhamr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Driveclub soundtrack in 10:10 :')

  • @adampatterson2682
    @adampatterson2682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not to mention the 12K skys which actually make a huge difference when playing and driving around

  • @toomuchtoofast4533
    @toomuchtoofast4533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a masterpiece. I bought Forza 7 Ultimate edition when it went on sale for the last time in the Microsoft store and it looks amazing too! Forzza 5 is next level ... it’s neat to see Digital Foundry NOT kicking the Xbox between the legs like they often do (bcuz PS5 can do no wrong). Yes I own both systems 😍 and they both rock... a Well done review chaps

  • @antran7044
    @antran7044 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    25:15 that car on the left really wanna go to heaven coz of the audio.

  • @johngalactus4014
    @johngalactus4014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can't wait to play this!

  • @MassiveHappyClapper
    @MassiveHappyClapper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The reduction in foliage and detail is annoying at 60fps on Series X but I can't go back to dirty 30fps, it is too choppy for me. I wish they could have hit 60fps with dynamic 4K and better foliage and detail. If you look at a TH-cam channel called Resero and their comparison video they show quite the stark difference in foliage between performance and quality mode on series X. It is actually a bit disappointing. This DF video makes out it is minor. I love DF but I don't feel that point John made is accurate. I say that respectfully.

    • @OGPatriot03
      @OGPatriot03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also what he said about motion blur strikes me as odd, he speculated that it used a lower quality setting but if performance mode runs twice as good that's going to noticeably reduce the motion blur effect. The intensity of the blur is based on the visual difference between the frames, the more frames you have the less difference there is = less blur.

    • @MassiveHappyClapper
      @MassiveHappyClapper 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OGPatriot03 I agree, I actually find it odd that we are in the new gen now and still having to choose between resolution and 60fps. That was fine with One X but the series X is technically more powerful than my PC with RTX2060 yet I can get 45fps solid at 4k on that for this game. Also who wants to play games at 30fps anymore?

  • @jackripper990
    @jackripper990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dolby vision works now on forza horizon 5

  • @Darksjeik
    @Darksjeik 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    FH5…That game where you drive around in an open world passing players in the pause menu

  • @mrjones29
    @mrjones29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Forza Motorsport 7 way back in 2017 played on 4k ultra settings on the old Xbox One is still unbeaten and cleaner looking.

  • @tshirtmonkey2710
    @tshirtmonkey2710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank God I bought a Series X.

  • @nagi-springfield93
    @nagi-springfield93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    25:15 next gen flying car is here boys, I am so excited

  • @Rizbizo72
    @Rizbizo72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great analysis by DF, as always!!!!! A lover letter from John to Playground games!

  • @TheRealMobiius
    @TheRealMobiius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone see the glitch at 25:15! lol
    Love this game!

  • @rvfiasco
    @rvfiasco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gorgeous.

  • @zwerker
    @zwerker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope 5 is fun. Never got into 4, most every time I booted it I ended up just going on an aimless rampage, mowing down the scenery. 3 was fine, but for feeling, aesthetics and enjoyment my favourites were 1 and 2.

  • @mohammadjavadmonjezi
    @mohammadjavadmonjezi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:34 look at the transaction, the smoothness of 60FPS is completely visible!
    Wow

  • @Christoph22KakaFan
    @Christoph22KakaFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh no fanboys will attack john for praising a xbox game 😢

  • @omarhegab
    @omarhegab 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While I think that the graphics and technical state of the game is pretty damn good; I hope that the next installment in the series improves upon certain aspects of the game especially three main things: Volumetrics, particle effects and water rendering.
    But again considering that this is the first Forza to be released for the Series platform of consoles this is seriously impressive.

  • @filippians413
    @filippians413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is beyond masterpiece. Like a magnum opus

  • @AdamGoodwin
    @AdamGoodwin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Playground Games have said an update on November 9th launch increases Xbox Series S resolution to 1440p from 1080p. Also Dolby VISION is enabled for this game on my LG C1.

  • @zainmalik9666
    @zainmalik9666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Proof the series s isn’t next gen lmao if games are running SUB HD 60FPS ON A NEW CONSOLE IN 2022 AND PEOPLE CALL IT WELL OPTIMIZED…

    • @TylerMarkRichardson
      @TylerMarkRichardson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It never drops below 720p (HD) it goes down to 810p (above hd)

    • @zainmalik9666
      @zainmalik9666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TylerMarkRichardson I meant fhd. It’s still so sad for 2022 no matter what. That’s horrible

    • @unrelatedpopcornfire9823
      @unrelatedpopcornfire9823 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Series s will be a 720p box by the end of the gen and people will still call it the greatest deal in gaming.

  • @umunnacharles5372
    @umunnacharles5372 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That intro was sick!!

  • @DirEnGay
    @DirEnGay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everybody keeps telling me that the 4K30 mode is great but it hurts my eyes and many things are too blurry to appreciate in motion. It's a shame that since it runs so well at 4K60 that the quality mode couldn't have taken inspiration from Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart and had the option for a 120hz 4K40 mode. 40 seems to be just in range of the sweet spot for me, at least on an LG CX TV which feels slightly worse for low framerate content than many other TV's.

    • @oror3751
      @oror3751 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      4k120 tvs are still very rare,they need to do it to the Series S(2k 40) 2k 120 are much more common

    • @DirEnGay
      @DirEnGay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oror3751 I know 4K120 TV's are rare but people do use monitors also. I get that it wouldn't affect much of the playerbase, but I figure if this game is able to be both 4K60 and 4K30 I wonder how much extra wiggle room is possible for quality mode to squeeze out an extra 10FPS. I'm sure it would have been possible, but not a priority for them. 4K40 is legit amazing to experience, it feels like the best of both worlds. Maximum visual fidelity and a much smoother/fluid experience.

  • @Jwebbplayz
    @Jwebbplayz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I installed this in my series x and pc.
    Pc specs: Ryzen 5 5600x @ 4.675 ghz
    Asus strix RTX 2070 8 O.C gpu @ 1935 mhz
    Pc was in high settings.
    Conclusion: looks much more beautiful on my Xbox, can tell it was tailored for it.

  • @masonmckay7935
    @masonmckay7935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A great Digital Foundry analysis is my absolute favorite kind of analysis, and heightens my impression of a given game tremendously :)

  • @menobueno417
    @menobueno417 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was amazing and really got to everything people were curious on a technical level thanks guys! Keep up the fantastic work!

  • @8aba_Yaga
    @8aba_Yaga 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:10
    That music reminds me of Driveclub, RIP
    Great music choices

  • @BELLEVERIC
    @BELLEVERIC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legit just bought a solid gaming PC specially to play this first. It really gave me the feeling that I NEEDED to have it

  • @TwoMeterGamingUK
    @TwoMeterGamingUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I give it forza horizon 5 / 5

    • @sean7332
      @sean7332 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why can't you?

  • @alamisalami2002
    @alamisalami2002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you just sold me on the Xbox Series X. (now to get my hands on one!)