Android Car Stereo Steering Wheel Control Installation for Joying, Pumpkin, others
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- I put together a detailed video explaining how to hook up your steering
wheel controls for one of the many android car stereos out there.
This technique should work for just about any type of car. Basically buy the PAC unit you need for your car type (ford, mercedes, honda, etc) and hook it up the way you would if you purchased a Pioneer car stereo. The output to connect to the android car stereo will be a 3.5mm headphone jack style plug. If you have any questions on what PAC unit, you can always contact Crutchfield customer service. Just tell them your car and say you are buying a Pioneer Avic-5100nex.
I hope this video helps some people. I struggled like crazy when I bought my first china android car stereo. I hooked my steering wheel control wire to Key 1 and of course it didn't work. The customer service for Joying and Pumpkin are extremely friendly but there is a language barrier.
One thing I forgot to mention. After you hook up the PAC unit, you have to run through the PAC programming instructions for Pioneer. It's very simple. It just requires pressing the button no the PAC with the key in the on position. You then run through the list of key presses in order. Just follow the instructions. If you don't do this step, you wont be able to program the Android Stereo.
Thank you. It's people like you who take the time to post your knowledge that makes so many projects doable. You helped me tremendously.
Glad I could help. I struggled with this for a couple months. I tried everything then finally came up with this way so figured I should post it.
Dear God I've been looking for this for better part of four hours thank you for laying it out flat
Finally an explanation for these wires. The last piece to make my radio install complete. Thank you!
Finally a simple straight forward video with the facts to wire the dang steering wheel controls. No mumbo jumbo and yapping about stupid irrelevant stuff! Thank you!
on my ford focus 2 (EU) it works without any adapter. on my quadlock connector on the car side i have swc+ and gnd. just connect this 2 wires to the HU to key1 and gnd (and gnd is important). For the cars that have 3 wires you will use also key3.
some of the cars does not have resistive steering wheels controls, instead it will send via can communication the digital signal when you press the keys. In this case a canbus decoder is usefull (also it will decode when door is opened, AC temp, etc).
the most common problem that peoples will do is to cut key1 and connect on the head unit and forget the ground wire (on head unit). on most android head units the ground for SWC must be connected to the car ground.
Best video on these interfaces on YT!... Informative.
Thanks for this. You avoid me from lack of elements before I start to Install my new radio and discover by my self I need adapter as well.
No problem. I did the initial struggle myself when I hooked up my first android radio.
You're the man!! I've been searching for this for days
Glad I was able to help.
Jason Firebird anyway you could help me with my joying head unit. I have an accord 2014. Everything works but the steering wheel controls. Had someone make me a harness,. But it wouldn't program to the head unit. Not sure if you are able to make one for me and I'd pay you
@@Dontknownowido sorry but there's not much I can do without the car in front of me. It's most likely a canbus system. I don't have any experience with them. I suggest checking out some forums.
Jason Firebird ok thank you anyways
Thanks a ton. If you don't mind I'll link to this video in one of mine. This was a huge help for my 2006. Dodge Ram Cummins 3500.
Great Video you are a life saver. Thank you for taking the time to make the video. I had a question and looked through the other comments. I didn't want to solder so I was worried. I see now I can just cut that 3.5 mm Jack on the pac unit and splice the wires to the key one key two great information thanks a lot again
That's how I do it now too. I just cut off the plugs and solder them directly together. Originally I wanted to keep the PAC original but later didn't care if I cut it. Lol. Glad the video could help.
@@1999TransAmWS6 Hello
I am trying to install one of these Chinese radio, I had cut the 3.5mm jack and solder directly to the Key1 and Key2,
I am pretty sure it is correctly hooked as it only require Red (ACC 12v) Black (Ground) and Orange (SWC), I programmed as per guide and I see it is blinking with any key I press, but I its not working, I test with a multimeter and I cannot get any signal, do you have any advise, I would really appreciate it.
Also I see there are 2 black wires to join to the main in PAC device, do I need to hook both?
This is PERFECT timing! I just bought my head unit to replace a Clarion unit, and I was having the same problem...good thing I had the PAC module left over from my Clarion unit! Hopefully this unit will work (yours is a slightly different module than mine).
Thanks!!!
That's a really good explanation....easy and clear.
Thanks a lot. Greetings from Germany
Hardluck1000 I tried to make it easy to follow. There's not much information on how to hook up steering wheel controls on these radios and even the manufacturers can't help
Thank you for sharing your knowledg.
Very helpful I cut headphones extension 3.5mm jack
Now I just cut the plug off the PAC and solder the wires directly to key 1 and 2. Glad this helped.
Exactly what I was looking for. Thank a-lot!
Thanks mate, got a Chinese Android 4.4.4 Radio and such a Steering Wheel Adapter but was getting Headaches trying to Figure out how or where the fuck to Connect it to, you saved my day :D
Omg you are amazing I looked everywhere and 3 wiring harnesses later haha
Thank you so much, this is super helpful.
My steering remote is also the same, 2 wires, I connect 1 to Key 1 and the other to Key 2. For my unit to work, I have to add an additional ground to Key 2 and it worked flawlessly. Mine is a Subaru so no can bus required.
Just to add: This applies if your vehicle does not have a resistor based signal from SWC, newer cars has CANBUS based steering wheels and what not, which means you need an adapter. If you have a vehicle which has resistor based signals, it should work out of the box without the need of an adapter.
Skauber I have a Dodge Charger 2012 can you please assist me in the components I need
Joying said its head unti should work with canbus via their ISO plug. I spoke to them and the guy was a bit wishy washy but told me the pink wire is canbus high. but I havn't been ablet to get that working. (edit: I see that they are selling a canbus box so I guess those wires are not used for canbus signals, but you need something to translate the signal into resistance.)
If not work should update MUC
Go to sitting steering extra sitting update mcu and try
Hey thanks.. u explain that well... thanks again.. most vidz dont do wha u do.. we need more vidz like that
jasonwills1990 I struggled myself when i did my first install. I couldn't find info any where that was useful. That's why I wanted to make a video to help others
Your the man!...wored great on my charger. PAC soeant know this...when i called support, they keep telling me to connect blue/yellow wire if my head unit didn't have 3.5 jack...that didnt work...thanks for the solution
Thanks a lot for sharing your info.
I think some says (I believe xtrons) had can 1 and can 2 but probably they also need a stalk adapter
Great video , I was able to get it working but cutting the end off of the 3.5mm jack stripping the wire and connecting the red & white wires to the key 1 & key 2 wires and than programmed through the head unit.
Tim Johnson yeah, that's how I do it now. I like it better than my old jack method
Still need a pac unit to do this or can I just cut wire for 3.5 mm steering wheel controls jack
OK I see what your saying, in my adventure of trying to find out how to do this before I just viewed this video.. I saw a module called metra axxess aswc - universal control interface on eBay.. that comes with one of those 3.5mm jacks and it has two wires on the end of it, sorta like the one you saudered and and connected to key and key 2.. great great great video man, I think I know what I need to do now... like like, already subscribed!
awesome video you just answered about 1000 questions that I had...
Jesusgamboa19 no problem, glad my video could help
I see that 2nd gen turned dash look for the HVAC controls.nice.long live our birds.
thank you sir
clear clean crisp all you need in a vid
You may have saved my project.
You are the MAN! Thanks for that video! These SWC interfaces had me scratching my head for days when it comes to these Chinese brand Android units. They dont explain them well enough, and not many people seem to own / post videos on them. so thanks! Question though...instead of soldering an input connector for the 3.5 jack, could you splice the wire and directly connect them to KEY1 and KEY2? Thanks again!
guessguy209 thanks, I agree, I couldn't find any info when I did mine originally either. The answer is yes. I no longer use the 3.5mm jack method. I cut the 3.5mm plug off the PAC and just solder the two wires inside to key 1 and 2. It does not matter which wire you solder to which.
So the is only 2 wires inside the 3.5mm male on the PAC unit
Thanks a lot. This is what I was looking for my diy project
Glad it was of some help
What is your order when programming on your firebird? Because on my Camaro 2000, my Preset act like upper Seek and AM/FM act like my play button. So I have 2 buttons for the same function
This was VERY helpful, thanks!
Thank you very much for this!! Great video and easy to follow, can't wait to install mine
+Del Calloway No problem. I struggled a lot when I got my first android radio. I hooked my car steering wheel wire up to Key 1 and of course it didn't work. I was amazed there was not really any info at all out there how to hook it up. Took a bit to figure out but it works flawlessly.
+1999TransAmWS6 I can easily see why you struggled, I'd been doing the same thing if I didn't happen to come across your thread on XDA. I was just looking for info in general, just got very lucky you had the exact car as mine. Thanks again for taking the time to make the video.
+Del Calloway Not a problem, glad to help. I hope it makes it easier for others as well because these radios are awesome! I have the 10.1" one in my '99 Trans Am (video coming soon) and the 7" in my 2000 Trans Am. It's a shame the big players like Pioneer, JVC, Kenwood don't get on board. I pulled out my Avic-8100nex ($1000) to install the $260 Joying and it blows the pioneer out of the water. Android auto is just too constrained. I'm thinking the reason is legal...they don't want people playing with a tablet while they're driving. In China, anything goes.....
+1999TransAmWS6 I've wondered the same thing, you're right this Chinese HU is 1000x better than having a normal one. I can see the legal issue, but I'm glad China can still import to the US. This HU has spoiled me already, don't think I could ever go back to name brand. I hope you don't mind, I linked your video to a thread on LS1TECH giving you all the credit.
+Infinite Reality I don't mind at all. I'm a LS1Tech member as well, just not as active as I should be. I 100% agree with you. I'm also spoiled by this radio. I don't think I'll ever go back. Even if it only lasts 6 months, I bought the canopy 2 year warranty from Amazon. I'll just get another one. On the Joying site it says they're going to have a Lollipop 5.1 upgrade around July. :)
Hi I bought a Chinese brand radio for a 2012 honda crv . It stated plug and play already came with the little box and is meant for my car. Problem I have can't program the steering wheel it states program failed what you think might be the issue.
Thanks
I installed a similar unit on my WRX 2017 model. Unit works fine but when I use the volume controls while the headlights are switched on the brightness of all the dashboard lights increase, any idea on what could be wrong? The volume controls do not work as well while the headlights are turned on, when switched off it works fine.
I have a 2004 Escalade. I installed a Joying 5.1.1 Android
radio in. The Escalade uses a CAN system. The ASWC-1 was having issues
converting the CAN info to resistance for the radio. I was getting strange
results. I bypassed the CAN system. I cut into the wiring under the steering column,
disconnected the steering wheel control wiring going to the Body Control Module,
BCM, and connected directly to the “Key 1 and 2” inputs. It did NOT work. From
testing determined you need to put one wire from the wheel controls to ground
and the other to “Key 1”.
The steering wheel control wires do NOT go across Key 1 and
Key 2. One wire goes to Key 1 and the other goes to ground. The radio reads all
resistances on Key 1 and 2 in reference to ground. Worked great. No delay
in any operation once programmed.
Nick Arnone Nice work. I never tried with a canbus setup.
1999TransAmWS6 how do I know what radio select to put it on ? the paper says put it on number 3 for nissan but how would I know the radio
1999TransAmWS6 on the video says have it set for pioneer hiw did you know you have it set for pioneer I tried looking at your dial looked like it was on 7
Uptown it can be set for pioneer or Sony. They use the same signal
The system was giving me issues so at the base of the steering column on the Escalade on connector C201 are pins B12 (BLU) and B31 (LT GRN). These are the wheel control's. I grounded pin B31 ans connected B12 to Key1 of my Android radio. DO NOT connect Key1 and Key2 to B12 and B31. The radio reads the resistances to ground not across Key1 and Key2. I programmed the radio, works perfect. No delays very quick reaction. I can send the wiring schematic if you need it.
excellent video, I'm working on a similar project for a 2008 satun vue, except I will be wiring directly to the source without a module control. Ive tried it already and it works but the wire also goes to my cruise control and interferes with the volume settings so my idea is to isolate the volume control power button from the circuit.
I missed this comment. Can't really say for sure how to do that since I'm not familiar with your car. The easiest thing would be to just get the PAC module for your car and you probably wont have to mess with any isolation.
I have a Hizpo Android stereo and its in a 2001 Nissan Xterra i found this connector in the radio area with 2 yellow wires in it and hooked it directly to K 1 and K 2 and did the menu where you select the vol up button on the car stereo and the vol down mode ect then press the steering wheel controland it wont recognize anything, the very poor installation directions said i may need to turn this Cam Bus system off or can bus, i love the unit but the wires and the colors on the radio were not the same , i needed a pink wire or the reverse light trigger to turn the rear cam on well its actually light brown on my radio, i guess i need this box here.
ok so I the 3.5mm (female) you have that on the radio itself and the male part is already on the pac-swc ? and the rest of the wires are basically like a regular harness that's where you connect the power memory ect..? I asking questions because I took my 04 murano to a audio shop and they didn't do squat saying they don't know how to hook up android radios so ive been trying to find out how to so I can do it myself
I just bought a jack at a local store and the terminals are labeled sleeve (long), ring, and tip. Can you please tell me which terminals to hook up to?
Hallo, is it possible the signal to come only with key 1? When my unit comes the key 2 was isolated
THANKS SO MUCH! Just want I was looking for my Joying head unit
Not a problem. Glad it helped out. :)
Hooked up my joying today with my pac can bus on my 08 charger. It powers on but no sound. I do not have the female jack hooked up yet for steering wheel controls. The PAC is set to #7. Any ideas on what I'm missing?
does your car have a factory amp? If it does, the blue/white wire need to connect to amp cont. wire
What adapter do I need for 2001 Mercedes Clk320 to retain steering wheel control? The head unit is a double din pioneer
thanks for sharing this info I have 03 escalade ext and bought a SWI-RC installed in but can't get it work, Do I have to program anything or do I have to cut the brown loop wire to get it work?
Yeah, you have to program the swi-rc first then after that do the key learning in the radio.
Thanks I was looking for that exact information
Glad it could help.
Good evening please l am having problems connecting my aftermarket radio with 2008 Mazda CX-9, l don’t get sound, is difficult determining the various speaker wire and the amp control wires,
Thank you for the great tutorial, it helped me a lot
No problem. I made the video because I struggled when I bought my first android radio and I couldn't find any help.
Thanks for the video. This worked great for me.
Awesome, glad it helped.
emraiders81 car you have ?
Great information. My issue is putting the radio in my truck. The harness they sent doesn't fit. So now I have to splice the cables into my truck.. the little iso connector they send doesn't fit unless you have a Japanese car..
Wrath45 yeah for all other cars you have to cut off the iso connection and connect a wiring harness adapter which will plug right into your factory harness. They're like $5
Yrs later thanks bro you still the only vid I found on this. So how about I buy the 3.5 female with the 2 wires then connect to key 1,2.would that work for me?
You can do that too. I've changed my install on this. Now I just cut the 3.5mm jack off the PAC and solder the wires directly to key 1 and key 2.
@@1999TransAmWS6 thanks for the reply. I have the pac with 3.5 & the wire for the stereos that comes without the input for it. So maybe I can just run the pac swc wire to the keys. Il try today
hello my friend i buy one junsun radio for my bmw e90 and steering wheel buttons dont work maybe you can help me with that?
I had a different one and tried for probably an hour straight, no joke, trying to figure out what was wrong and why I couldn't program the buttons on the steering wheel. I didn't knew they made such an overly complicated thing.
llVIU yeah depending on what type of car you have these modules can be pretty complicated. Luckily on my car it's a single wire for the signal wire so it's pretty simple. Some other cars you have to add resistors, connect multiple wires.
Hands down, one of the best explanations on canbus connect here, thanks a lot for that.
One question; since you seem to have tried bith android 4.4.4 and the 5.1.1 lollipop, which one is the better one to choose ?
I'm close to deciding on a Joying 7" for my 2006 dodge Charger, but cant decide between the "older" 4.4.4 or the new 5.1.1.
The hardware unit seems to be exactly the same..
Cheers
Thats a tough one. As of right now the 4.4.4 runs much faster and uses up less memory at rest. There are many tasks on the 5.1.1 that seem to bog it down. In my opinion the 5.1.1 desperately needs 2gb of RAM. The 4.4.4 runs fine off 1gb....its just not enough for lollipop. Day to day the 5.1.1 is fine. You just need a bit of patience with some apps. Joying is good at putting out software updates. I just updated my lollipop last week and it has sped up but still not as fast as the 4.4.4. Joying has told me theyre working on a 2gb unit that should be available in about 6 months.
There is a new company called in-dash.net that has an octacore with 2gb ram and lollipop. Its a bit more expensive. I might order one and if I do, I'll make a video review of it.
Thanks for the info. Sounds like it could be worth opening up the unit and exchange the 1Gb with a 2gb stick, its like 10$. These units seems to be upgradable, like tablets and laptops.
I'm comparing Joyings UQ130 with the UL135, they are identical except the latter is 20$ more expensive with lollipop, the former is with kitkat. Both I can buy without additional 100-150 import tax/customs fees.
Reading the rather good joying support forum, one can even upgrade the kitkat bought version to lollipop rather soon. Seems they are working on updates for these.
had a look at the site, rather suspect Hongkong outfit, poor display of products, etc. I would stay away.
Also, more core are not necessarily better. The OS and apps need to be able to utilize the 8 cores, otherwise they are just idle. Also, These type octacores are new and just run at a third of the speed of the quad cores, might influence responsiveness. When cores a new, not many(if any) even support to use all 8 cores.. But Im not a lollipop expert, wouldnt know if it supports 8 core cpu.
Cheers mate
You made some good points. The website is pretty terrible but there are many people on the XDA forum (known members) that have already bought one. I'm waiting to see what they think of it. It's a small company that was on kickstarter a while ago. I do love the Joying set up though so I might just wait for their 2GB RAM unit. I agree and think it's not the processor but just the lack of memory that is causing the Lollipop unit to lag a bit. You really see it the most when you launch Google Maps. You just have to be patient, sometimes it can take up to a minute. I know a lot of main brand cell phones had the same issue when they upgraded from kitkat to lollipop. The 1GB of RAM just wasn't cutting it so they slowed down a bit. Lollipop takes considerable more memory. I have more apps installed on my 4.4.4 than my 5.1.1 and the 5.1.1 uses about 200mb more RAM even at rest. That's 20% of the total memory available. You just have to remember to fully close out apps. If you switch from Pandora to IheartRadio, go to the window icon in the notification bar and swipe away Pandora, etc.
Hello Jason
I have 2013 Grand Cherokee, Overland 5.7, with premium sound system, Amplified 9 speakers.
I bought an android head unit from Ali Express, it came with Key1 & Key wires, and Can=bus decoder and the other cables.
I installed the mentioned head unit today without connecting (Key1, Key2) to anything, everything is working even the steering wheels controls without buying any extra devices, as I think they have programmed the steering wheels controls before sending the head unit to me.
The only problem I am facing is I am not able to reprogram those steering wheel control as I want, some of them are incorrect currently or duplicated.
Some cars already put out a resistive output so no other module is needed. I can't help you though since I'm not familiar with your car.
@@1999TransAmWS6 Thank you Jason
Hi. I really need your help with this. Only my call answer button is changing resistance. The rest of the buttons resistance value does not change when i press them and the joying only registers the set up for that one call answer button. Please assist. Ive tried switching the wires around for everything
Hi Jason, really useful video. This is what i was looking for. Btw, why you did not configure the PAC unit itself, probably it would resolve your issue with same resistance for different buttons? Please correct me if i'm wrong.
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thank you for the video 2018 it helped me alot thank you
I'm glad to hear it helped
Did you use key 1 and key 2 ? It seems more sensible to use key 1 and ground key right ??
@@detox2778 Joying radios only have Key 1 and Key 2. They don't have a key ground wire. I know some other brands do. In that case I think you would use just key 1 and key ground.
I used key 1 to a extra blue wire and it works
@@1999TransAmWS6 your prolly right , i think ive had a brain fart there, i think I'm gonna try cutting the 3.5mm male and wiring it directly to key 1 and key 2
Do ur unit side lights come on or change colors on the a 9inc 10.1
Hey what's the harness call where u get I have china radio lol 2009 kia optima
I'm using China android set got two cable sw1 and sw2. My steering also using two wire, resistance value type. But when i connect direct, non of my button can be learn in android player. Is there a different type of connection to the steering? Cause both sw1 and sw2 showing +ve label.
Same problem here...
Great as Always..............
+Gary Leonardo Thanks!
further questions relating the the 3.5mm microphone jack. 1) there are two types of jacks - mono and stereo - which type will work? and 2) the jack comes with ground also - does the jack have to be grounded for it to work with the steering wheel controls - if so - can you just ground to the car chassis? thanks in advance
I bought the stereo jack and just used 2 of the connections. The jack itself doesn't need to be grounded.
@1999TransAmWS6 I went to RadioShack yesterday to pick up the 1/8" panel mount audio jack. All they had was the mono version. Problem is that is has 4 connections coming off of the bottom of it. I know I use the big one, but which other one of the 3 should I use? Does it matter which one? Also, do you think I will have an issue with it being a mono jack instead of a stereo jack?
I use a Pioneer right now in my Volvo V70N, but I have a Joying on it's way home. The adapter harness that i use between the iso-cables and the factory harness have two loose cables named "Can" and "Can low". Figured out that ControlPro had messed up, they said that I should use Can (Pink and black, data input 1) but Can-low (Pink data input 2) worked connected to the cable marked "Can-low" on the iso-adapter. My questions are, if I connect the Can data input 1 to the Can cable that's not used on the iso-adapter, will my Joying get more info? Like open doors and stuff like that? Or will I be able to get that info with just the Can data input 2?
Which pin did you break off on the 3.5mm jack? Ground?
No Joying wont be able to do any of that. It's just like a standard tablet. The best you can do with Joying is steering wheel controls, and get the tire pressure adapters plus a OBDII adapter. That's about it.
I know pioneers can do lots of stuff like that with the Maestro adapter
Kind of a bad video, but Joying can do that in some cars.
m.th-cam.com/video/viXMpNhc6gk/w-d-xo.html
On the 3.5mm jack, was it the ground that you cut off? I going to use a 3.5mm - RCA adapter and cut off the RCA connectors, that's why I need to know which cables to use.
@@ExtraKimB Interesting. I've not seen that before but since I don't have those types of cars I've never watched the videos either.
You don't remember which connector that isn't used?
I have a 2013 Nissan Altima.....so you're saying if I install my head unit without the PAC, then it wouldn't work? Even though Joying just says connect the steering wheel wire to key 1 (and/or key 2) and then ground it.
It depends on the output of your car. If your car puts out a resistance value then you're okay. I'd say 80% of the cars out there don't and require an adapter like the PAC. If you have a multimeter you can always check to see if your car outputs a resistance when you hit the keys. You can always just try without it and if it doesn't work then buy a PAC module.
Hi what for programming with android unit?
i Got an android 4.1 radio car and i want to install an amplificator with a subwoofer in , but the problem is i have only 1 subwoofer out i tried so put it with a splitter and it seem not working , you got a suggestion ?
My amp also has dual RCA inputs and the Joying radio only has 1 output. I just used a RCA Y-connector and it sounds great.
hoorah a TRANS AM fan and a person that knows how to wire up a ANDROID STEREO ;) I just got my dream car 2002 Trans Am MARCH made and near showroom condition at 64k miles ... I wonder where you live? I am storing the car as my holiday car in Las Vegas -- I am seeking another Trans Am ( or V6 Firebird) for my daily driver. If your in TEXAS or NEVADA .. I will pay you to wire up an Android head unit for me :)
maybe 2 if I can get find another firebird of some sort with under 100k miles :) be nice to have same head unit in daily driver and holiday special :)
Richard Evans I'm in the Chicago area so a little ways from you. I have the 8" joying Android radio in both of my Trans Ams. I love them! Both the cars and the stereos. Check out my other videos if you want to see them in action :)
1999TransAmWS6 what was the exact model you got? i can view the specs. .. maybe one day fly up to Chicago a it is my favorite city in usa... could pay you to setup the pac for me etc .. fun weekend and car upgrade at same time. .. sounds line a weekend i should plan
Thank you for putting up this video! I have a 2000 Camaro and I tried the Axxess ASWC-1 steering wheel harness and I couldn't get it to work. Your video gave me hope that I can once again get my steering wheel controls to work again!
I followed the instructions using the PAC SWI-RC unit but I wasn't able to get it to work with my Joying head unit neither. I'll try resequencing the unit again, as per the previous comments below, to see if that'll work.
One question I do have for you in the meantime is that I noticed there were 2 black ground wires coming out from the PAC unit. Do they both need to be grounded or just one? If so, how do you know which? They are both identical with no marks differentiating one from the other.
Thanks!
Hmm i dont know about the ground wires. I'll be swapping radios on my 99 trans am probably tomorrow so I'll look how i have it. do you have the pioneer or sony version? Did you program the PAC module itself? Does the light on the PAC light when you press keys?
I'm not sure what you mean by "Pioneer or Sony version". The PAC unit I bought is the "SWI-RC", and I have the dial on the side set to "7" (which is for Pioneer/Sony as per the instructions and your directions from the video). The program light lights up on the module when I press the program button on the side. The buttons on the head unit from the steering control setting flashes when I press them to try and set it, but it doesn't seem to pick up the signal when I'm pressing the buttons on my steering wheel to try and program them. I'm not positive I have the module programmed properly so I'm gonna try and redo that today.
Thanks for your reply. I look forward to hearing from you after you get a chance to swap your radio.
Is it necessary to setup the "mapping" for the unit?
+Bob C It is. you have to map to pac itself as if you had a pioneer radio. You then have to map the joying radios in settings. the pac you have and position 7 is correct. Let me know how it works.
hi please can you advise me where to get a filter for hiss noise.
not engine noise.
there are so many.
I want one that will definitely work ..
thankyou
You might have been able to differentiate the resistances better on your multi-meter if you turned it down to 200 ohms. Setting it at 200k gives you a significantly lower resolution, and is therefore less accurate since it's set to read values across 200,000 ohms instead of just 200. Setting it to 200 would theoretically give you 1000x better resolution.
agr00m true, it's just to show they are different. The values it gives doesn't matter. You can't adjust it. The radio just needs enough difference between the values to be able to program. 99% of the people watching probably don't know what resistance is, lol
Hi, don’t we need to connect the ground from the can bus to the autoradio ?
My car isn't canbus. Every car is different. You have to connect the PAC unit as per the instructions first.
I'm in the middle of hooking mine up. Quick question, for the SWI-RC... what color did you use to connect the PAC to the OEM steering wheel blue wire?
That part I can't remember. I hooked my pac module up about 4 years ago for my pioneer radios. I believe our connector I'd gm21. Does it say blue for GM21?
+1999TransAmWS6 yep that's it. OEM wire is blue and should connect that to green wire on the PAC. I don't get why this is giving me such a hard time. Your video explains it perfectly. I tried all sorts of combos with my 3.5mm jack wires with no luck.
+Infinite Reality Did you run through the programming sequence? you have to program the pac unit like you would if you have a pioneer radio. you press the program button on the pac and go through the different buttons.
+1999TransAmWS6 Nope, that's the part I over looked. Programmed and working! Thanks for the help. You happen to know of anyway to get next track and such to work with any other music app but the one that comes with it?
+Infinite Reality Glad it worked out. I forgot to mention that part in my video. No way that I know of to have next track work with apps, only the radio and stock music player...which sucks. If you find a way, please let me know. For now as long as volume works I'm happy. For keys I programmed volume up, down, mute, home, navigation, and back arrow.
I have a 2001 trans am. I'm considering installing one of the 7 inch joying in the car. Was wondering if it fit okay in the Metra 95-3312G bezel kit, or if some modification to the bezel needs to be made, or if there is any gaps around the radio once installed.
Sandra R All android radios (joying, pumpkin, and others) are oversized double din. They'll all be too big for any bezel including the Metra. Most people cut to make the bezel opening slightly larger. I bought the joying without any volume knob so I installed it behind the Metra bezel and shifted it slightly to the right so the touch screen buttons are accessible. The bezel you listed is the same one I used.
Thanks for info. It seemed like some modification was going to be needed, but great to get a confirmation on that.
The one im considering is the joying JY-UL128N2. One without the nobs.
Have you used the dash cam functions of these by any chance?
Sandra R That's a great model. I've installed 6 of those into friends cars. I've never tried the dash cam feature. I have a separate dash cam so I never needed to.
Just wanted to say thanks for the info. Finally got one of these and installed it. The install turned out really well. The only thing I'm having an issue with is the PAC unit and figuring out the note 4 in the manual that says i need to cut some wire coming from the wheel. Any info that you have would be helpful.
I have a 2004 Chevy Tahoe. Everything works perfect eccept Steering Wheel Controls. I watched the video .... I connected a 3.5 female connector to the Key 1 & Key 2 ... (didnt use the middle tab on the connector, ehich is ground) rotated the dial to set the PAC unit to #7 Pioneer. What am I doing wrong ? How do I set my steering controls...not on the radio....the wiring ???
Bestbuy installed the radio. could they may have not prgrammed something when forst installing the PAC . I have the Joying radio too with Key 1 & Key 2.
One part I forgot to mention in the video but I have in the description is the Pac unit itself has to be programmed to your steering wheel controls. The procedure is in the pac instructions and not too bad. It basically has you press the black button on the Pac with your ignition on. the pac led will stay lit. you then follow the sequence in the manual...press what steering wheel key you want for mute, the led will flash then stay lit, then you press volume up on your steering wheel and so on.
+1999TransAmWS6 Thank You...Awesome video... my PAC may ne faulty...I pressed the orogram button and get no LED... I was able to, after olaying with it...I can set Volume up and Down , and Mute, I did set seek up and down, but it seemed to only let me do a few at a time and take others away.....at one point seek UP was Seek and Mute...smh... anyway. Thanks Again.
Exactly what i was looking for, thanks!! One question though, what did you do with the Ground for the "key" wires? I assume tie it in with standard ground, but clearly whatever you did works so i'd like to replicate.
Joying radios only have a Key 1 and Key 2 wire. No steering wheel ground. Now I did have a pumpkin radio about 2 years ago that had Key 1, Key2, and ground. I was able to use the same technique but I can't remember which wires I used. I think I used Key1 and ground to hook up both wires from the PAC module jack. I left key 2 unhooked. I could be wrong and used Key 1 and Key 2 and just left the ground unhooked. You might just have to play around and see what combination works. I'm almost positive I never hooked the steering wheel ground up to regular car ground though.
Thanks for the response! I have eonon, and they use ground, key1, and key2. Just glad to have any lead on what to do here, figured this might be the case but you saved me some time/money in messing around with it. Much appreciate the vid!
Thanks for this I really appreciate it
No problem.
DId you have to 'program' the module with your cars version number before the joying unit would pick it up?
Riley Britton Yes you do. Check out the video description.
Nice and clear video. This cleared some things up for me. I have a question, I'd like you to help me with. My car doesn't have steering wheel control, as it is from 1991 and it simply wasn't an option for my car. I don't even want steering wheel control, but my android headunit only has 5 buttons on the front of the screen, vol+ and -, mute, home and back. I reassigned the mute button to be play/pause so I can pause spotify, as I never find myself using mute function, but I'd like to have next/previous track, and maybe a button for navigation, and the I got the idea of I could make my own panel with physical buttons and mimic a steering wheel control input through key 1 and 2 like you did. My question is, how do I need to make the circuit for the button panel? I've searched on the internet for a universal circuit board to resolder the buttons or something but have not found one yet, So I want to make one from scratch. Can you help me?
You'd want to search for "prototype board". It should be a pretty simple circuit. If for example you want 6 buttons, you'd need 6 resistors of different values. One end of each resistor would all tie together and got to Key 1 on the radio. Hook up a momentary push button to the other end of each resistor. Then tie all of the other end of each push button to Key 2 on the radio. That should cover it.
I'll try that. Thanks alot man!
Great video. can I intepret your experience that the PAC unit will read a CANBUS signal and convert to resistance? I own a 2007 VW GTI and the factory steering wheel buttons sends signals via the CANBUS. Joying have stated on their website that CANBUS steering wheel buttons signals are fixed and cannot be customised on their radios using their CANBUS adaptor harness. Another problem is that not all factory steering wheel buttons can be used. for example the phone button. So the method you described is a work around to make all buttons work with a Joying stereo? Also does the resistance value change between short and long press of a steering wheel button? For example, I only have one phone button. Could it be possible to set up as follows - short press = answer call. long press = hang up? I welcome any feedback.
The best thing to do is call PAC or call Crutchfield. Tell them the car you have and say you have a Pioneer AVIC-8100NEX or any radio from Pioneer with steering wheel controls. Let them know you want a steering wheel control module. They'll point you to the correct one. Once installed it will take your CANBUS and convert it to a resistance then you should have no problem installing with my method.
+1999TransAmWS6 And what about the change of resistance value from a short press to long press of the same steering wheel key? Does the resistance value change? By any chance have you tried this? If resistance does'nt change - I'm assuming the PAC or any other unit won't be able to interpret the functions differently? Therefore loss of steering wheel function?
+Nigel Morgan No the resistance won't change if you do a short or long press. It's a set value. The new joying 5.1 radios can tell a short or long press by software though.
Thanks very helpful
I have a Renault Duster 2017 & I was thinking to buy the joying 5.1.1 unit for my car.
Do have any idea if it have Canbus system ?
I'm worried about the steering wheel controls not working.
Saaransh Singh sorry, I wish I could help but I have no idea. Your best bet is to see if there are any forums out there. The other option is try calling Crutchfield. Tell them you want to buy a pioneer avic-8200nex and are curious if you can hook up steering wheel controls to it. If they say yes ask them what adapter. If you wire it for the pioneer it will work for the joying as well.
Hello, thanks for the video. one question: did you find out why some buttons have the same resistance and how to solve this? because of this I can not use those buttons for other functions. Basically you get 2 steering buttons doing the same thing...
Yeah, I did. They are very close but not exactly the same value. I had my ohmmeter set up for Kohms and it was rounding to 1 decimal place so the 12.1 that it displayed was rounded to 12,100 ohms. So the real value was probably like 12,050 and the 2nd key press 12,070 or so. The android stereos are probably assigning values +/- a few hundred so it can't tell the difference. My Pioneer and Sony radios had tighter tolerances so they could tell the difference. The only way around it to get more buttons is to root your radio and install one of the Xposed modules. There's one out there so you can program both short and long presses so it doubles your keys. The new Joying 5.1.1 Lollipop radio also allows you to program short and long presses but it limits you to just 7 keys.
+1999TransAmWS6 Thanks for the answer and advice. I did not think about an accuracy issue of the android radio. if this is the case, I can think of other solution then you mention. How about modifing the button resistance to get higher resistance differences by adding some resistors to the steering wheel button harness? It means messing with car original harness, but what the hell... what do you think of it? I have got Ownice c200 and it has promised an update to higher android some time later, so it would solve my problem too, but I do not trust Chineese to much in this...
+havrajz. No way to modify the factory harness, at least not in my car. It's the PAC module that is sending the resistor values, not the steering wheel. Possibly programming the PAC with different functions might work. 6 buttons for me is more than enough though. Vol Up, Vol down, Home, mute, navigation, and back arrow. I dont need the skip to next track function since it doesnt work for apps, just the factory mp3 player that sucks. I mainly ise poweramp.
So on my Chinese unit and interface they both have key 1 and 2 wire which I soldered together but the interface also has the 3.5 aux male but the Chinese head unit doesn’t have have a plug in for that. Are the soldered wires good enough or do I still need that jack plugged into something on my head unit? Would love to know. Thanks to anyone who can answer.
Can I ask. my head unit had a cable that says "reverese". This is for the reverse camera to come on when I put my car into reverse but I'm not sure where I actually plug it up to. any ideas?
Reverse is the 12V positive wire input. So basically when it detects 12 volts positive, the screen on the radio switches to rear view camera. The way I hooked up my car was I tapped off one of my reverse tail lights. I have that connection running to the camera positive and the reverse wire on the radio. I took it one step further and installed a time delay relay but that's not necessary. I didn't like when you go from park to drive, you have to go through reverse so the screen would flash to the rear view camera for a second. My time delay relay is set for 3 seconds so I never have this problem.
That's great thanks. My reverse camera and transmitter are hooked up to one of my reverse lights and I had a sneaky suspicion I had to do the same for the radio. I just didn't want to chance it just in case. My stereo also has an input for the back light which I'm presuming is also connected to my lights
On the plug you soldered to, of the 3 connections (ground, left and right) which 2 did you connect to?
It was ground but I can't remember the other two. I do it a new way now. I cut the 3.5mm plug off the PAC unit. Inside there is a red and white wire. I just solder directly to the key 1 and Key 2 wires. It doen't matter which wires you connect the red or white to. It's simple and gives a better connection.
Thanks. I was hoping to avoid cutting in case I wanted to switch back to a radio with the plug jack but it looks like I'm gonna cut
I am about to install this same set up. Tell me if I under stand this right, on the SWC module the only wires I need to worry about are the red, ground and accessory power. The other wires as not used. I can basically solder the red black and accessory wires together with the joying wires, right?
It depends on what type of car you're installing it in. Every car type has a completely different installation and initial setup and programming. You have to follow the instructions that came with the PAC module. The only difference when installing with the joying is adding the 3.5mm plug to key one and key two like I show in the video.
Jason Firebird I forgot to add that I’m installing this in a 2002 Camaro with monsoon. I found your video via LS1TECH.
@@airbornetrooper1356 for your car the PAC needs 3 wires to hook up besides the 3.5mm cord. Red to ignition, black to ground, and green to the signal wire of the factory radio harness. The wire on the factory radio harness is blue I believe and will be all by itself. You still have to program the version number and controls to the PAC stated in the instructions.
Jason Firebird Awesome. I’ll look for the wire. I am soldering the joyin harness to the wiring adapter and see a lone blue wire on the wiring adapter. I may make a video and post it to show you if I have the right wire. Thank you again for your help so far.
Jason Firebird so I got everything wired up and the PAC flashes once for the version number. When I go into the steering wheel control for the Joying radio it does not register. I hold the button down and nothing.
What's the hack you bought from radio shack?
Liked. Thanks.
Hey Jason, I have the swc-rc and a china/android radio for my honda. I cant seem to find the swc wire from my vehicle in order to wire the PAC correctly then proceed to the 3.5mm resistance.
Can't really help you since I've never installed one in a Honda. You'll have to search some forums for your car model.
@@1999TransAmWS6 Thanks for responding, I figured it out by going online to there website/app and it showing me what wires need to be together.
@@1999TransAmWS6 Also speaking via online to a technical support specialist
@@jonjackson8534 glad you were able to get it working. These Android radios really need steering wheel controls.
@@1999TransAmWS6 Absolutely I completely agree
Hi I have key 1 key 2 and ground and jack on the adaptor but on the xtron stereo there's key 1 key 2 no where I can find the jack. Do I connect the key 1 key 2 from stereo to the adaptor ? Would it work ?
Key 1 and Key 2 is all I have on mine as well. The technique in my video should work fine for you.
1999TransAmWS6 thanks man, so key 1 key 2 both coming from stereo and adaptor should be linked and no other wires ?
correct. On the PAC adapter, the output is a 3.5mm plug so I just bought a 3.5mm jack from radio shack and soldered it on to key 1 and key 2. Made it easier to remove if you change radios.
1999TransAmWS6 I have both key 1 key 2 and the jack 3.5mm plug on the adaptor hence I got confused on what to do with the jack lol, now I'll try the key 1 key 2 and hope fingers crossed
So what does this PAC adapter convert the resistance value to for the android HU to understand it? I was think the key1 would just read the varying resistance value that is programmed to each key.
Thanks
The pac takes the car data signal and converts it to a resistance value. There's a few cars from the factory that put out a resistance signal so the pac is not necessary. my car for example only has one factory wire for the steering wheel control and it puts out more of a data signal that only the factory radio can understand. The pac can read the data signal and convert it to resistance values for the android HU to read.
+1999TransAmWS6 oh OK. I thought you were showing resistance readings prior to installing the PAC. Thanks for replying.
Hi I have a pioneer avh p5100dvd and it was working fine. After I shut and turn the car back on the deck won't turn on. Can you help me figure out why it won't turn on.
Two things to check are the car fuse and also the fuse on the back of the radio. You could also have a bad wire connection to the radio. If all three things check out, your radio might have gone bad.
+1999TransAmWS6 the thing is I don't see any fuse in the back of this pioneer radio.
+1999TransAmWS6 I will check the fues and the wiring but I hope this radio Is not gone. Thanks for the help.
This doesn't work on my 2015 Chrysler 200 :/ I had to buy a Maestro for my Dasaita Android Unit. But it asks for a serial number when I select any Pioneer Model
I tried the same thing but I am not getting any resistance on key one key 2. I have a 2003 hummer h2
Did you do the initial version setting and programming to the PAC?
@@1999TransAmWS6 I have not started programming the pac yet just pushed the buttons on steering wheel figuring it would pass default value to see if I would get the resistance from the wires coming from the pac. I'll go through the programming instructing tonight to see if it changes
@@dieseldreams2853 without setting the version of the PAC and doing it's initial program I don't think it'll output anything.
@@1999TransAmWS6 thank you very much for your help and for making the video.
Hi can you help me please, i bought a( Connections 2) volume control for my X Type Jag, steering audio control volume,but i was told that it will never work because my double din stereo is an aftermarket one,and it doesn't have an input on the stereo for the 3.5 jack plug,,but i watched your video and i followed the instruction by cutting off the 3.5 plug and have them connected direct to the stereo steering wires Key 1 and Key 2, but i still can't get any joy, i my getting wrong somewhere ,or it just won't work this for me,? i appreciate a little help please Thank you, Brilliant video.
Giovanni Mormone wish I could help but I don't know anything about the connection 2 module. You should call crutchfield and see if the PAC SWI-RC is compatible with your car. Also, did you buy a Joying radio?
It's okay thanks,no problem,i think the best thing to do is to get a well known stereo with name,and the rest will be come easy.but thanks just same .good work,good video.
Hey I have the pac-RC just like you. But I also have to have a damn pac os-311 in my 2012 Malibu in order to retain onstar but more important chimes in my car is there a way to to retain all the chimes without one. Anyway the pac-RV has 2 outputs the 3.5mm and a wire that it says can be hooked up to your radio.... is there anyway to use this wire and not cut the 3.5mm headphone jack or buy an adapter?
Gabriel Hearn no you can't use the single wire from the pac-rc for android radios. The single wire output is for jvc stereos and does not put out a resistance, it's a data signal wire. This video is a bit old. I no longer buy the adapter jack I cut off the 3.5mm connector from the pac and solder the two wires inside to key 1 and key 2. It seems to give more key presses that way.
1999TransAmWS6 there’s 3 wires after you cut the 3.5mm end off 2 are coated white and red and one is not coated I’m assuming power
Which do you solder?
Gabriel Hearn there's a red and white wire when you cut off the 3.5mm plug. Solder one to key one and the other to key 2
It does not matter which one solders to each wire.
What do you do with the uncoated wire when you cut of the 3.5mm end does it need to be grounded or what?
what the link for the radio....does it have the Pontiac emblem and how can I get one
Bought mine on amazon. just type in Joying. Pontiac emblem I had custom made.
Do you know what wire is the remote wire so I can power my subs?
It's blue on every radio I've ever seen.
It doesn’t work on mine
@@103rd_1way_kuda contact the radio manufacturer