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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 เม.ย. 2023
- We dive into the shady underbelly of Formula One sponsors and find a cool reason to make a conspiracy board.
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Splunk is an enormous presence in the tech industry, so is Siemens, Siemens has been sponsoring cars for decades at this point.
But funny names are funny
i think siemens was mentioned because they're doing business with russia after the war broke out, just like HAAS
I swear, I read this as Sprunk.
@@TheCamSays Brooooo same
He said it was legit, just had a weird name
You forgot the Tobacco companies which are technically banned from sponsoring the sport, but use subsidiary companies as a loophole. Ferrari and Mission Winnow (Philip Morris) being a famous example. But still McLaren is sponsored by Vuse which is part of British American Tobacco.
Alcohol companies do a similar thing by having an alcohol free version of their product being promoted. Heineken being the big one here.
really surprised this wasnt mentioned, although the subliminal marlboro livery was pretty cool
they’ve made a video like this 2 years ago which talks about exactly that
Ferrari is painted in Marlboro red, official Ferrari red is much darker. I think it was last year or the year before when they painted the rear of the car Ferrai red ,it had to do with an anniversary iirc
I miss the big tobacco liveries, so iconic.
He already mentioned in his previous video...just search : Donut media f1 sponsored
I love how Jumbo is ranked as fairly sketchy, while it’s just one of the most known Dutch supermarkets
Doesn't mean they don't have anything to do with the controversies they are tied with.
@@jaydonbrown617 they actually don’t. The owner was sketchy, but his company itself was not part of it
@@scorpioassmodeusgtx1811 They probably think Deutsche Bank is also harmless
Alleen de Nederlanders snappen het
@@rikhaanen3904 Any founder/CEO of a company represents their company. Okay, the cashiers and stockers didn't dabble in money laundering themselves, but the company as a whole will always be associated with this controversy, thanks to its now ex-owner.
Seeing Seimens up there on your corkboard and I was like, "what, they've never heard of a huge German company?"
Lol NY Wall Street had Siemens ads billboards of them since 90s.
i was also shocked seeing msc
@@tom6nicole love the name! That's awesome
@@JamesFromTexas Thanks man
@@JamesFromTexas to most funny thing about that is that they also make car electronics
As a Dutch person, it was hilarious and so unexpected to see Jumbo, the supermarket I go to almost everyday and see all over the country in this video😂😂
.. And apparently they are more sketchy than some obscure rich-people app. Groceries will never be the same
Hahaha dacht precies t zelfde man
I always saw jumbo on the racing team Netherlands Lmp2
Ja, geweldig toch 😆
The guy basically doesn't know what he is talking about it
I've noticed Max Verstappen has a new helmet sponsor this year, something called "EA Sports".
They sound extremely sketchy man I don't know.
I heard they only gave him part of the helmet and made him pay extra for the whole thing. Definitely sounds weird.
@@Quandaledingle-ge6tc Yeah. And I also hear he has been giving them hush money to make his car so fast this year. Extra shady
Kinda explains how he's so fast. Hes a glitch.
I think he paid extra for the DLC engine upgrade. Also paid extea for the E.A speed boost upgrade as well. Also paid for the racing line. In his helmet he has a hud where he can see a racing line, along real time speed updates of every driver in front of him.
I hate EA.
You literally ranked a company that builds CNC machines as more sketchy than a company that stole 3 billion dollars.
True lmao
MSC is the official cruise partner of F1, kind of like how DHL is the official shipping company. Also, Siemens make a plethora of medical equipment as well. Ever had an MRI?
You are quite likely to find a Haas cnc shipped by dhl onboard an msc container vessel which has planty of Siemens controll systemes.
@@TheRazerx7you bet guenther would be using all cheap logistics spending all extra dimes on performance
@@musawirmohd6353wouldn't put it past gun to have the crew break stuff down and bring some prices on the plane to save on freight weight
Not shady, but DUREX on the 1976 Surtees F1 car was a smash hit!
Yeah... because of that, BBC never broadcasted the F1 races, including the British GP. They relented after watching that a british could won the championship!
@@Speeder76 exactly, classic brits 😂
@@Speeder76 top gear on 24hrs if LeMans. Peniston Oils / Larsen Biscuits.
They're also the sturdiest. Lol
There was Penthouse on the Hesketh 😂
Missed the old Wheelhouse format! Glad to see it back!
what the heck why was this the most clear and concise summary of the FTX scandal I've ever heard? Thanks for the content!
Cause multiple huge American News Outlets did fluff interviews with Sam Bankman-Fried post FTX Collapse but prior to his arrest (there was quite the delay due to him residing in the Bahamas)
@@xrepressiivproductionz8481
Their is also the fact that the FTX collapse has a lot of data points to it and, News outlets were overwhelmed by it when the Exchange went belly up in one of the oldest ways to collapse a bank: A bank run.
I will admit that calling FTX a bank is a little far fetched but it did attempt to storage value, so bank it is because I have no other name for that.
I’m an engineer at Haas CNC. When CNBC broadcasted their story a few weeks ago accusing of us selling machines to the Russians, it seemed totally out of left field. The logistics of building and selling expensive industrial equipment and delivering it to international customers is quite complex, and we certainly can’t control every step completely. The statement that Haas released in response explains it pretty well.
It honestly seems to me like some journalists did some digging and found something they could misconstrue into a sensational story, try to make a name for themselves.
But then again, considering Gene Haas’ criminal history, where exactly does the truth lie? I don’t know man, I just work here.
Definitely far less shady than FTX, Nolan got that one very wrong
From what I saw the machines were purchased from Abamet, a distributor for Belarus and Russia. I really don't think Haas would take such a huge risk for 2.8 million dollars, that's nothing when they did 1.3 billion in sales last year.
Where is the proof the HAAS machines were used for Russian weapons? That is a stretch. More likely just used by some Russian dads at work so they can feed their families. 🤷♂️
I love how companies manufacturing guns for the US to invade the Middle East is OK, but selling weapons to Russia is wrong.
You Americans have such a crooked sense of ethics.
@@dickfitzwelliner2807 yeah i seen that too.
I love how he calls out Splunk, one of the largest security companies on the planet.
He just calls out the weird name then says they are legit
well he didnt say they are shady, he said they are legit despite their weird names
I never heard of Splunk until today.
@@GoldNargacuga I think I once randomly heard of them somewhere but not sure
@@GoldNargacuga In the tech sector they are pretty commonly known.
As a person who purchases CNC machines for work here in the US I can confirm that it can take 6-7 months to get a machine. I believe Haas, specially in this market. We pay a down payment and at that moment we enter a contract with machine supplier for them to deliver the equipment. Gonna have to say not sketchy to that...
I think kick deserves a mention. A twitch clone purely created to advertise gambling via shady sponsorship deals. They were doing this on twitch previously but gambling sponsorships got banned so they went and made their own platform to advertise it. The sponsorships are shady since the streamers are given accounts with inflated odds and large amounts of cash already in them.
Advertising gambling to children is among the most morally depraved corporate strategies I can come up with. Stake and kick are scum
Kick also got Adin Ross on their platform and kind of seems like a toxic wasteland.
Lol McLaren really has the dodgiest sponsors
@@maryissound kick is Alfa Romeo not McLaren
@@neblolthecarnerd what the fuck is an alfa romeo 🔥🔥🔥🗣🗣🗣
Where the hell has James been? At this point it seems like you’re hiding him. Hope everything is going well
Nolan does a great job being the new main host but it’s just strange without James :( I miss the energy he brought to the team
Valtteri finally had enough of him, and took him to his basement...
Jumbo is btw one of the biggest supermarket chains in the Netherlands, so the sponsor itself isn’t sketchy at all
Production value is off the charts these days. Love it.
With the machine company sponsors i think it has to be differentiated between selling directly to weapons manufacturers and selling to a different company that then resells the machine to a weapons manufacturer they only have control over one of these things.
I also wonder if they were purchased before the sanctions were put into place and they were already slated to be shipped out.
Who really cares? The US sells weapons to warlords that massacre their own people, the US starts wars killing innocent people all over the world, they don't have a foot to stand on. They also fuelled the Nazi war machine during WW2 for years!
I also wonder why similar sanctions aren't put on place when the US invades the Middle East. Not defending what Russia is doing, but Americans have such a slanted crooked sense of ethics.
I love seeing those historical F1 cars in the background behind Nolan. Was this shot at the Petersen Museum in LA? I visited the exhibit a few weeks ago, and I had to apologize for getting drool on Häkkinen's championship McLaren-Mercedes 😅 such a fantastic selection from the 90s and beyond!
_Ten minutes later:_ Oh thanks for answering my question :P
Yes! Petersen Museum is a candy story for car lovers. I've been twice on trips to LA and would go again if the chance presents itself. The Indianapolis racetrack has a display of past Indy cars. That is stunning since some are so old.
I’m offended you would spit on that car, Ryan. Some would argue it’s a bit racist. Please just enjoy the video, it’s an automotive channel. -dean
@@GardenGuy1943 I’m sorry. I was overwhelmed by awe for its accomplishment and renown. That was such a fantastic season to follow, and it meant a lot to me to see on of those cars in person.
@@GardenGuy1943 just because you said this I'm gonna nut on the car
Siemens (Huge and Old German Company) being on the Board together with FTX etc. is hilarious considering how reputable, old and important Siemens is to this Day, not only for Car Technology.
I wonder if the Person who designed that great Conspiracy Board didn`t even bother to look up Siemens on Wikipedia.
Whatever the Reason, i hope they learn a bit about Siemens after putting it on the Wall of Shame for some Reason
Prost & Cheers from Germany
Nolan grew up in a machine shop. I always thought he was a robot
Jumbo as an amazing place to work as a young teen. Its one of the biggest supermarkets in the Netherlands. The discovery of the issue with Frits van Eerd was a problem indeed, but i can assure everyone Jumbo is an amazing place to work!
Amazing video. Hard to find new ideas within F1 content and done so well. Do more please!
Donut please give Nolan his own weekly episode back he’s an OG and we miss wheelhouse😭
sadly they’re owned by a “new” parent company (hence the “new” content), its not their choice what they post
@@anilsson1337Donut is owned by the same company who owns The Drive aka Drive Network, Recurrent who's owned Donut since November 2021
This is an amazing video. Nolan you killed it
Love videos when Nolan gets to go on camera and just be himself for a few minutes. Good stuff Noleybooboobear.
If you thought NASCAR sponsors were sketchy, you’ve seen nothing yet.
sketchy, more like "unfamiliar to general audiences"
NASCAR sponsors *wish* they had the money to sponsor F1. F1 sponsors *wish* their series didn't race in Saudi Arabia, Dubai and (to a lesser extent) the EU and Australia.
Explicitly because of the hard line those countries take on the advertising of tobacco (historically), alcohol (varying) and crypto (recently).
@@GSBarlev It is better if tobacco and alcohol are not advertised in F1, let us atleast try to somewhat prevent addiction in the coming generations. Coz such advertising just encourages and promotes people to get addicted.
@@muhammadkhan2007 Yeah, but we can't ignore them for some of the most iconic liveries the sport has ever received, like the martini stripes, marlboro chevron of the mclaren and indy penske cars and the west mclarens
@@GSBarlev depends on the NASCAR sponsors, A lot of NASCAR sponsors are american brands only and it wouldn't make sense to sponsor an f1 team which is international. also many NASCAR sponsors have plenty of money, you statement is just stupid.
Great setup with detective vibes. Content quality is surely going up 👍
Great video! I’ve noticed at 4:48 you’re saying Williams disengaged with crypto, but in fact they’ve signed with Kraken for this season.
Ranking Haas sketchier than FTX is insane😂😂
Thanks for teaching me basically all of the stuff I know about car mechanics I just received my donut hoodie!😊
Lol I work with Splunk, it's actually a very useful tool in my field. I thought the same thing the first time I heard the name tho 😅
You guys need to make a video with one of those luxury car detailing channels and bring them Nolan's old ass car. The look on their face alone when this thing comes in should be worth it. Plus it would be genuinely interesting to see what they can make of something like that. And I want Nolan to be happy in his life.
Digging the format. Enjoyed this one
I can really appreciate this kind of deeper dig into the background of today’s F1 sponsorship. All over the financial world has been spoken of transparency of earnings and defined costs, so why not on the most expensive form of car racing. Well done weather or not it’s all included so far. It provided me with an insight and some sort of het explanation of dodgy name-brands that are currently active, and therefore a bit more freedom to choose. That’s kind of a big deal for me. Big respect for the author of the video. Keep it up and stay safe my friend! 👍🏼
This was a shallow of an f1 sponsor analyze you could get.
I don't see how HAAS is /more/ sketchy than FTX.
Dude! This is the kind of investigative reporting I hear and see on NPR and PBS! Well done! Thank You!!!!
your editor dropping thorstein veblen is a crossover i did not expect to see on an auto channel, love it.
Glad to see Nolan talk about this again. It's always been a great topic to cover.
Thanks for actually pronouncing haas correctly lol. I live in the same city as their manufacturing hq and know lots of people that work there and no one, absolutely no one says it like they do in f1 channels and broadcasts.
My personal favourite (probably not sketchy) was rollerblade brand roces sponsoring teams. Perhaps a video on the lesser known sponsors would be cool?
When was this?? I know of Roces but wouldn't think they had the cash to sponsors racing teams.
@@userb3nje909 Not sure on details, but if you google "roces f1 car" there are links to the story, i think it goes back to 1966 until (might have been on and off, definitely sponsored different teams) around 1998/9
I came across an image of that car recently and was shocked. I only knew Roces as a 90s aggressive inline skate brand though. I didn't know it was a much larger Italian brand.
Love the new style of videos !!!
I LOVE DONUT F1 CONTENT, KEEP IT GOING!
It is funny to me that Splunk> is mentioned as unknown and shady, while being a thing I use every day haha
He categorized Splunk as one that "sounds weird, but [is] actually fine", but you any many others seem to have this confused.
@@surewhynot6259 then they should hav been clearer. I left with the vibe the company was shady af
@@surewhynot6259 no surprise that Splunk users can't use their critical thinking brains.
Who tf allowed Mcclaren at 1:44 lol
So are we ignoring the Willaims?
@@crabnix fuck I didn’t even see that
The fact that Aramco got a pass on this video is sketchy in and of itself
I was searching for this exact comment.
They're not so much sketchy really. They're just evil lmao
I miss the old Donut Media... Not this gimmick filled new way that things are being done.
B2B
Up to speed
The list videos
Just a few examples of things they don't do anymore because of the people behind the scenes running the show
Splunk is a large reputable company. They make pretty much the premier Security Information and Event Management (SIEM) software that most major companies use. I had a class in college that was pretty much exclusively on Splunk and Qradar
Great example that most legitimate busineses are just bad with branding and PR. Qradar too just sounds like Qanon and unfortunately occupies a similar niche
Also MSC is one of the (or maybe the) biggest shipping company in the world
Splunk are large, but not reputable. They're overpriced trash and knowing two of their employees well enough I was asked to deejay their wedding and they never paid me, I'd say their employees are overpaid trash too.
Nolan is the most genuine Donut member
i worked with an haas cnc machine for a couple months, its such an amazing piece of engineering
Donut answering questions we didn’t know we had ❤ but needed!
It would be nice to see you guys make more f1 videos. Please
Set is dope, way more fitting than usual desk.
Nolan = Batman, literally no difference except Nolan's superpower is being held back by Donut's budget.
Would like to see Nolan have his own YT channel
You're watching LTT too much.
who saw McClaren?
Velocity Black is actually a concierge service which caters to the needs of their members. Booking hotels, reserving restaurants, booking f1 race tickets etc lol
More educational vids like this plz
Splunk is one of the most familiar names in the IT industry. They are legit btw 😂
It’s not a case of being shady, all they were saying was it sounded weird but they’re legit
Encircling their logo with red around 12:34 was not right. Implies that they might be shady
Overpriced crap code. And overpaid asshole employees who didn't even pay their wedding deejay? No. Splunk can kick rocks.
thank you for telling about f1 sponsors and also for uncovering indirect/direct war support, it's important!
Finally, a good old Donut video
Yay!!! You posted this on my birthday! I know you post every Friday but whatever it’s exciting 😂
Donut never disappoints us, he's an incredible Content Creator and always creates masterpieces. His content is amazing.
He? Singular? Nice scam.
Nah
I stand with Russia 🇷🇺!!
Siemens is a decently big company at gestamp we use Siemens hmi to display our info on presses that make structural parts for cars. Such as Honda crv rear frames, ford escape rear frames
Thanks Nolan, I like the indepth reporting.
Going back to doing donut things (morden automobile journalism)
Love to see it 😀💪
"...sketchy sponsors"
*highlights Bin Laden"
never change, Donut editors.
Glad wheel house is back🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
So glad you guys are fans of F1!
As someone who loves reading old economists, you can't quantify how happy I was to see a reference to Veblen!
I miss this old donut, and b2b, best thing ever, LIGHTING LIGHTING LIGHTING
Last weekend?! Damn when was this filmed
Is this a reupload? I feel like I remember watching a Donut video about F1 sponsors before.
Great video idea! Love it
The investigative content in this piece should make for something that should be the automotive equivalent to the PBS News Hour. Nolan went deep!
love the content! and i LOVE this topic...
I mean, "corruption protection agency" is kinda much more spot-on
bro did jumbo dirty
Jumbo is literally one of the biggest supermarkets chains, they just had a shady guy on the top that is now even shunned by the family.
Hey Donut, could you guys share the spreadsheet of the sponsor-industry distribution that you showed at the start?
Poor Nolan, never got a normal childhood in a house like everyone else. Growing up in a machine shop must've been tough.
In the early 90's the textile company I worked for paid 20k to have the company name on an F1 car in the Montreal Grand Prix.
Business is business, wars aside
Nolan: Haas CNC machines are so precise that even the US military uses them (and according to Nolan, this is perfectly fine)
Also Nolan: But the problem is Russia military also have these CNC machines (Nolan's tone shifts to worried)
Like... My man (and whoever wrote this script), you do realize the US military ALSO kills people, right?
THANK YOU! And Shell being right behind him too, with all of their atrocities and not mentioning a single thing.
“3 highest paid team bosses” shows Mattia Binotto😂😂😂
I was going to tell you they are here in Argentina too, but I did a little research, and it turns out it is another supermarket company called Jumbo from Chile.
Thank you for this episode of Wheelhouse!
The squidward footstep sound effect is s good touch😂
Greed and desperation is incredible, because at this level of finance you’d think the vetting of sponsorships and partnerships would be far more stringent, but noooooo. Literally Billions of dollars in fraud standing right next to your drivers
Thought this was gonna be them bringing back wheel house at first .
nolan doing risky topics but as a 1920s detective narration
Bro really highlighted Splunk as a sketchy sponsor
Never thought a Veblen reference would come up.
That went from "Shady" to "Weird" pretty quick. Did you get some legal advice? 🤣
i noticed this too, saw it earlier right after it was posted but didnt watch, came back up again
Man those black and sliver McLarens were beautiful
That's why they call me Slim Shady...
"Last weekend" really dates how far in advance they film. No races in the last 2 weeks
"Sunk sprinkler" sounds...... A aha ah ohah amazing .