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- We take a look at every car company that died since the year 2000.
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They really brought back Up to Speed for a few seconds.
They need to bring back up to speed on a weekly basis
This feels like a classic episode before they got bought out.
@@andyholstein237 what
@@BMW-M4-M-POWER Donut was bought by Recurrent in 2021. But unlike what other dude said, Donut was still releasing Up2Speed for a little over a year after that buyout.
Thanks Obama
This video needs be renamed into “How many extremely bad business decisions can GM make?”
Just stood in a field of rakes and they couldn't miss one 😂
Business always ruin cars after computers did
No it should be called how many bad decisions can the federal government make
@@budgroweryt9947 You can’t blame the government for designing and manufacturing the ugly unreliable piece of junk cars made by gm and other companies that went out of business.
*insert electric Silverado*
I remember driving the final Saab model back to the dealership after a show at our local county fair. It felt weird. I knew it was the last model, I was never a Saab fan. It was strange driving the very last model of a car. That car was actually pretty unique compared to everything else I drove that year.
Also after years of working in an auto body shop, I can still say the Saturn was one of the easiest cars to work on ever. They were so freaking easy. I actually miss the simple engineering in Saturns. Great cars honestly.
I'd argue that Saturn had the most potential of any of the brands GM axed in 08. Pontiac was more iconic, but just wasn't able to differentiate itself from Chev by the 2000's. Hummer wedged itself into a really narrow niche that wasn't viable during the recession, and Saab also had too narrow of a niche, while also just being too up and down in terms of quality.
As for Saturn, it suffered from badge engineering, but at least it's body style made it stand out. It also filled the small economy car niche better than any other GM brand.
I had an Ion that I rehabilitated, and it was like the car was made of legos. It was so simple to change body parts on it, I changed a bent aluminum bumper support in about 15 minutes.
well saab still exisist today theyre jsut not doing cars anymore their car factory were shutdown yes and gm didnt even own saab
last part about saab is false a lot of it in fact it was and still is owned by swedish goverment and gm rented saab from swedish goverment until swedish goverment ended that rent agreement due gm failing on their payments and it was swedish goverm,ent who also blocked sale of automotive parto of to chinese
That joke about the year 2001 went right over everyone’s head 🤣
No, no it didn’t.
@@MacAttack1776it crashed right in
@@SpeedKing..Nahhh 💀😭
It didn't happen like that in 2001
I knew what he meant
Being Australian I have to mention the mighty Holden. Rip the mighty lion.
they shouldve mentioned it yes but at least they mentioned Pontiac which eventually sold Holdens in the US
Surprised they didn't mention it when they were talking about the other axed GM badges
Holden and Falcon in Australia were the best
not mentioning holden is such a disrespect
Holden deez nuts 😢
One day manufacturers trying to make youth-oriented cars or brands will learn that youths don't have money to buy new cars and that their market actually is old folks looking for a smaller second car.
But old people love to feel like they’re keeping up with what’s cool with the kids. So the true market is cars that old people think young people think are cool.
I always wondered if this was an intentional move to market to the elderly pretending to market to youth
Also the problem is the youth that can afford cars make terrible choices and don't want practical hatchbacks and crossovers. That's why the 86 survives😅
*laughs in midlife crisis*
@@JSchroederee Hey, the 86/BRZ actually gets pretty good MPG, and young people can justify not having a spacious car because they often don’t have kids yet, and if they do have kids, the backseats aren’t great, but younger kids will fit. 🤷♂️
@@Toolace Very much this.
I don't have kids so I'm enjoying "interesting" cars while I can.
My first car was something boring and cheap (Fiat Punto) but since then I've had a Z4 and now an 86.
And I guess this is why sportscars are also known as mid-life crisis cars, people who want them, but have kids, have to wait until after their kids have grown up and got cars of their own/moved out.
Didn’t think I’d click on a donut media video to see two grown men talking about their SAAB story
It’s crazy how many divisions GM killed off. Pontiac was the hardest to swallow. I really miss the TA. What an epic name plate. Heck, even the Holden GTO was nice.
You forgot about Holden (killed in 2020), Rover (killed in 2005) and Daewoo (killed in 2015)
MG as well in 2005, the new MG is a new Chinese company just the same badge.
Rover seems to get forgotten outside of the UK and Europe, crazy when they were responsible for the creation on Land Rover and Range Rover originally.
isn't suzuki dead? at least in the US it is
@@vwpassat444 Suzuki definitely not dead.
Did they forget? Or, are they irrelevant in the US?
same as isuzu
"From hot-rodders to house-wives to house-rodders to hot-wives" went hard lmaoo
Google hot wife
Just like your mama
Until you learn the second meaning of “hotwives”
Justin has become such a great host. So relatable and just brings such a positive energy to the screen.
RIP SAAB.
I've owned two 9-3s and I loved them. Not the best cars in terms of driving, but so unique, versatile and interesting.
My 1999 9-3 SE was so dope. Other than the FWD issues and lack of frame rigidity.
I put the full Viggen rescue kit on that baby, swapped the turbo for a TD04, viggen intercooler, cobra turbo inlet pipe, stage 1 tune, bilstein shocks.. she was a beast in the end.
I miss that car.
My 9-5 had buttons on its buttons
Alternate title: How GM is a graveyard for car manufacturers
more so chrysler, u have the pre chrysler companies, usmc and Maxwell chalmers, plus all the dead brands that when to form AMC and Jeep.
It's just relative due to GM's huge number of brands
thats been the plan since the mid to late 70s ford and gm conspired together to take out all of fords competition by either forcing them to sell to gm or else go bankrupt. so when you get a gm made car your getting screwed the same as ford screws their customers. sounds too similar right? yeah coz thats been the plan all along! its no mystery how the world doesnt know this so easy i was reading about what ford did to the auto industry in america when i was a kid in the 80s, if you own a ford you do not know just how crooked they really are! they lobby in congress hardcore and have changed the auto industry into one of the biggest scams in america right next to banks! all the good american cars are gone thank ford and gm for that!
GM is the EA of car manufacturers
@@angelgjr1999 now thats funny hahaha
This is just “How GM ruins everything.”
Actually it was Obuma's requirments for GM to close Pontiac. Long live Kenya.
wheres the 'report for dipsh!ttery button'...
@Adrian 0 yeah because Obama was president in 2001. Stop spreading lies ohh yeah that's all you all are good for.
@@aa-tx7th next to "diversity is muh strength"
@@Adrian-mq5ld Well if its not making a profit, why the hell should it stay open? White Pride?
You forgot Holden and Daewoo! Also, Olds made some other non-rebadged cars before going under, like the Aurora, which was a pretty big deal when it came out, and the Intrigue
The Auroras were a big deal in the Philippines, they were like the Cadillacs of the islands. You'll still see a load of them around in the smaller cities
Aurora owner here. I love these cars. It has a personality, it drives well, it rides well, it sounds good after a muffler swap, and it's pushing 200K. I've owned 3 and they've all been great.
Hey James I just wanted to say great job on these videos. Somehow you always make me laugh, and it’s usually with the smallest twist of a word or some kind of goofy pronunciation 😂 The videos are always well done and informative. Fun way to learn more about one of my favorite hobbies. To everyone at Donut keep up the good work. Great channel. High quality production.
As a Swede and proud SAAB-owner I really miss SAAB. Such unique cars that is also the reason we have so many turbocharged cars😔
I appreciate the special nod to the ‘Saabaru’
Anyone who doesn’t know about that, isn’t a true gearhead.
I agree. Saa was a wonderful car company. from USA.
As a Finn and ex-Saab owner I also miss Saab (and my old Saab too)
Man I wanted a Saab so bad as my first car. I had a real limited budget and tried finding an aero or viggen, manual, less than 100k miles, but I had so little options close enough for me to take a bus to. I waited for so long so I eventually gave up and bought a really well priced TL type S, but Saab went under shortly after that and I kept regretting my decision.
I had a remapped 9000 Aero. Can't think of another car that you could use to move house in the morning, and embarrass boy racers in the evening. A true wolf in sheep's clothing. Saab deserved far better than what GM did to them. They were a pioneering company that'll always have a place in my heart.
James - “nothing else bad happened that year…”
Too soon.
Nine...
@@Birch_ON eleven
Porsche did 911
Reminds me of that tragedy
I did not have a 9/11 joke on my Donut Bingo card.
Great video. Y’all make an EXCELLENT duo! Keep up the great work.
Rip Holden, the sick skids still rest in our heart.
I'm surprised that they didn't mention Holden in this video
07 holden
@@EngiNetion they don't live in Aussie, that's why
Holden designed the G8 and 2003-2006 GTO
@@GiordanDiodato pretty sure they know Holden, you don't need to live in Australia to know Holden anyways.
9/11 joke in a donut video is INSANE LMAO
“Plymouth’s last car rolled off the production line and nothing else had happened that year” 😂😂😂
No other car has had the attitude of the Trans Am WS6 since 2002. Looked awesome and very few in its price range could beat it.
This literally could've been an up to speed episode.....please guys....bring it back😢
Yes up to speed was so good
What else could they do it on?
@@re5onance244lots actually, if you really need to ask that then what’re you doing here…
They aren't even trying anymore 🙄😥
@@acropophia8857 😂😂y’all sound like annoying ass kids on every video “bring back up to speed” my nigga they seen the last 2 million comments
If GM could bring back one brand I’d love to see Pontiac back on the road. They produced some absolute legends
As much as I do miss the WS6 I still miss Oldsmobile cars more they had class with out cheap Pontiac quality
Except its the current GM we are talking about, even if it happened it would just be a rebadged chevy thats going to break down every 10k miles like the rest of them.
The best brand that came out of GM
Love me my Solstice GXP with GMPP performance upgrade. 290hp and 340ftlb in such a tiny car, awesome
@@waterloo123100 Buick is still kicking somehow
I had a 2003 Ion sedan with a five speed, drove it for years. It was running like new at 192,000 miles. And it was really easy to maintain and repair.
Dude actually looks sober and not off a half week long coke binge. Glad hes getting healthier
I miss Up To Speed
Remember when James said something along the lines of "I'LL HOST THIS TILL THE DAY I DIE"
... and then he went to hospital.
Yeah they fkd this channel up... I also miss the old Bumper 2 Bumper when they'd look at dope cars. Before they made it about just looking at just a Bumper or something then just killing that show also...
They are basically still doing it. Just doesn’t have the title.
@@Zackaria_sMax yes, that number to bumper was amazing
@@natemoretz6910no
Rest in peace Plymouth and Pontiac you will be missed :(
Especially Pontiac. I’ve been hoping and praying for a new trans am/firebird
I'm a Mopar guy, Plymouth had the 'Cuda for god sakes🥲
R.I.P
@@antoineaaron3754 Let's be real though, it would still just be a rebadged Camaro
@@Rextraordinaire true, and I have a Camaro but the Firebirds, especially the Firehawks had more power, looked better, and had those aesthetic looking ram air hoods. Doesn’t take from the fact that you’re correct though 😂
Love those videos, it was great fun 😀
Was not expecting a Goya reference but I'm here for it. Love the editing commentary on this video
the way James explains the 2008 financial crisis is top tier😂
But it's not true, it was the government making more money off of the backs of the American people. The reason everything crashed the way it did was from the insider trading the government does.
The Pontiac Solstice/Saturn Sky was as close as GM came to making a mini Corvette since the Opal GT. It had so much potential.
Been saying this! Plus, they also made a modern Opel GT which was just another rebadged Saturn Sky lol
The solstice design team even wanted to put a V8 in the solstice but gm nixed it because they didn't want internal competition for the Corvette.
@@jonf2009 Go to Adam LZ for that. He shoved an LS into his mom's Solstice.
Naw, that goes to the Pontiac Fiero... All they had to do was keep improving it. Look at Corvette now, rear engine
@@jonf2009 you mean external competition? Lol
4:10 most underrated joke ever
6:53 I absolutely agree. I have a Black on Black, 1968 Pontiac Bonneville 428ci Convertible. (Two owner, matching numbers, mint condition) Forever a classic.
50 yrs from now we'll look back and say "these were the golden years of donut "
Yep. Golden years that are forever legendary.
1:39 290 hrsprs
''decent back then'' ???
Ok
Meh. Not golden years, more like mediocre years. Feels like the golden times of donut have passed or maybe that’s just me not liking their content as much.
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ shut
Some rich fella needs to bring back Saab
now under a company called nevs
100% Agree
No
Saab was soo good 😢😢
Absolutely!!!
It is sad to see those companies go,but their memories will never die!
As we die, so will the names. Such as Google this - List of defunct automobile manufacturers of the United States
My brother had a poster of the prowler on his walls back in grade school. I always thought that thing would have a huge engine. At least they made a fairly unique design. Back in 2008 i had a plastic saturn SC2, some guy came up to my window and tried to carjack me. Kicked my door as hard as i could and launched him across the road. Took off, and when i pulled over i looked and my door was so, so badly dented, all i did was bumped the door with my palm a few times and suddenly the door popped right back and there was only some minor wear on the paint
Gimme my Holden back PLEASE
Opel:
They're Honden it back
You can always import an Opel
"And others were sent across the rainbow Bridge"
"And now they live in hell"
The car quote of all times
The cobalt ss actually came after the Saturn ion redline, the redline also came with half doors which was cool
Hey I just want you guys to know that I love you guys. The entire Donut cast. You guys are awesome in Forza Horizon 5. I look forward to the update of the game.
Killing Pontiac right when it was finding its footing again and making interesting cars was a huge huge mistake by GM...and now they've gone and killed Holden too.
You know if they kept Pontiac alive (Who was selling Holdens) they probably could have keep BOTH badges alive. Pretty sad
Since when did GM do anything that made sense?
All the $$ sunk into that hideous Aztek doomed the brand. Still sucks to this day.
@@reneeandchrisforever The Aztek successfully predicted the demand for crossover SUVS and the 4th Gen RAV4 grill is very similar to the Aztek's ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@l.e.miller1208 Ehhh that grille comment is a reach lol.
@@AdultsAreTalking it's not a reach. The Aztek isn't pretty but it had a good idea of where car design was going -- it was just way ahead of its time and not very good looking. Not a good combo. If you are going to challenge your audience you need to nail it. But they were right about where design was going even if they didn't nail it.
Justin has really opened up and seems more comfortable. He's great! ❤
Cos of the tapioca pudding😅
Why don't you just kiss him already
@@LeftHandedRightHanded Bet
Kind of, like, a freeman?!?
@@snowrlax1874 you okay?
the 2001 joke and the face zoom, deafening silence was too funny
The subtle nothing else bad happened for the rest of 2001 joke was good 😂
Moral of the story, GM invested too much and killed all the fun brands in the financial crisis 😂
Nothing changed either. Their investing in to the China ev game and billions on a HD truck facility 😂
5:50 is this the closest thing we will get to up to speed nowadays?
The podcast is similar in nature.
@@PrydeWater901 podcast is great. There’s a little bit of everything mixed in there, so there’s something for everyone.
Whoever edited this video is a hilarious human and should be protected at all costs.
I had a 1999 Olds Intrigue. I really liked it, but if I had to pay somebody to fix it every time it broke down, I'd have been walking.
A James and Justin video has chaotic energy and I'm here for it
Yeah. Hoody guy Vs short sleeved 😂
They look like brothers or half brothers
The Solstice and Sky were freaking great cars. Some of the most underrated vehicles . . .
100%
I own solstice GXP - awesome car
Sky is kinda cool
So cool, that it was used in the 1st Transformers movie
It was an Opel, not a US car. Just a badge job on a German car.
Drove an 07 Mercury Montego back in high school. Loved that thing
One of my fav cars I owned was a 98 Grand zprix GTP. got great mog and was pretty darn quick. Very smooth ride and handled pretty decently
BRING BACK UP TO SPEED! Educational history videos are awesome that’s why I started watching Donut.
I miss those too but I feel like they've maybe run out of "easy" to do ones and it seemed like one of their harder/more time consuming videos to make.
Ditto
@@WellingtonCordeiro That’s probably very true.
How is this not the same thing? You need a title that bad?
@@natemoretz6910 it was the actual format not the title
4:15 *September 11th has entered the chat*
Me and my buddy we’re coming home with a 10th anniversary trans am and some guy in a Pontiac solstice honked and sped by us giving us the hang loose. Made my day
4:52, the song in the background is the insturmental of Manners-Zorro
My man. I thought that someone might link the sauce, thank you kind stranger!!!
Thank you for crediting John Delorean, nobody gives him enough credit for sparking the muscle car era.
It didn't occur to me that Scion would be in this and I wasn't ready for it. 😭😭😭 Rest in power to both versions of the XB and the TC.
I loved my tC. Such a great car. If it makes you feel better, a lot of the TC's looks and features made their way to the next gen Corollas.
I've seen a tC rip by me on the street at around 70, and that moment proved to me that tC's are amazing tuners, because I was walking, and we were on a street with two lanes and a curb in the middle.
The Laser, Eclipse, and Talon are all easily and instantly distinguishable from each other. They also came with model-specific options, so it was actually possible to buy a car that only came in a certain specification depending on which brand you bought.
As a hopeful Eclipse owner:
Fuck the Talon and Laser, all my homies hate the Talon and Laser, cause those are dumb names and dumb badges
When he said lets start with pontiac my heart sank a little.
Always thought Scion should've been more successful, their marketing was cool and their lineup was cool. Loved the focus on customization!
I think if they marketed to a different group they probably would've been better off, because their cars were well made and good looking mostly...but their primary demographic was teens and just barely adults...who can't really afford new cars.
J
it was a good idea on paper, but in the end, people were buying Corollas instead, the brand fell apart
@@brianmcdermott3938 I feel like what really killed them was the Kia Soul. it was cheaper, got better mileage, and had better interior space.
Can’t tell you how many TC owners thought they could compete with V8s
Scion didn't die an ungrateful death. It did exactly what Toyota wanted. Tc's were popular with younger people, same for the frs. Then toyota graduated from Scion, and Gazoo has given us exactly what people have been asking for.
And the xB is just a square go kart lol
Scion was Toyota. Its like saying Ziggy Stardust and David Bowie are two different people. I recently got a rebuilt xB. Its like driving a compact shuttle bus, like a camery and a vw bus had a child but it is actually kinda fun. And they get good gas mileage and last 400k+.
Biggest regret of my life was my 06 xB that I totalled 😢😢
Probably common among scion owners lol
@@bournes9845 I still remembered that car to the GOAT of Gran Turismo, GRAN TURISMO 4. It also has Scion TC (Midnight Club 3 and NFS SHIFT 2 UNLEASHED).
I love the 1st gen Xb. It's a toaster. I seriously consider them every time I see a cheap one for sale, so practical
Haha! My great grandfather is the Toby Couture in that first Pontiac ad! He was a test car driver back in the day, would take a team out to the salt flats out west, drive around mountains, and even tested out some boat engines for Walter Chrysler.
The only one of these that hurt me on any sort of level was the Saturn line, if only because nostalgia that my parents had an Ion as my earliest childhood memories and my dad drive a Vue until it was totaled in a wreck in 2012 at one point he wanted a Sky and was sad when the whole Saturn line was cut.
The energy James brings (albeit, sometimes weird) is why I started watching and why I still watch. Love you Jimmy.
- Dad
yeah like "TESLA" shout )
"Ask your doctor if Alero is right for you" is so cold lol🥶
I had an 08 solstice, and loved that thing. It was a blast to drive.
We getting out the junkyard with this one 🔥🔥🔥
I remember that my local Opel Dealer had an Alero for sale. That car stood at the showroom for a really long time. Here in Spain it was "sold" as Chevrolet Alero but kept the Oldsmobile logos. The only one I've ever seen.
Creo haber visto uno en la calle, sin saber lo que era. Muy curioso
James: JUST LIKE TESLA!
Justin: 👀
I still have a blue Ford shirt w/ "Built WITHOUT your tax dollars" on the back. It's ruffled a few feathers over the years 😂
Lol I remember the saturn dent resitant ads, my friend got an Ion in college, instead of denting the fender just shattered...
4:20 I thought this was a 9/11 joke for a second 💀
if it's not then what is the joke
Seeing that VERY quick Up To Speed reminded just how much I miss that show
Love my 01 Pontiac Trans Am ws6. Drove it yesterday. Great car.
ive had a tC and currently an frs, wish scion was still around. was a great brand.
You guys missed the most important GM brand of them all, Daewoo. It was shuttered post financial crisis as well. While not sold in the US later on as Daewoos, many Daewoo models were sold in the US under Chevrolet and Suzuki badging.
Need some "Up to Speed" back in my life
R.I.P. Holden
An icon of Australia, you will be missed.
Finally an episode that resembles Up to Speed. I miss that show :)
I'm glad Saab is the first company mentioned in this video because that's the first company that came to mind, rip 😥
They named Plymouth first though...
Stupid bit is SAAB still exist, just not under their own brand name. The SAAB 9-3 is used as the base platform for another car.
Also should be noted that SAAB automotive haven't been part of the SAAB group since 2000, the core group is still alive and kicking making jets for the US Air force.
@@cgi2002 Do you know of any interviews/articles regarding this. I have had a fascination with saab as of late and would like to read about the main people behind the cars and where they went.
@@msk-g3783 unfortunately not and the information I could find on the automotive side was lacking. Plenty of info on their aircraft business however.
Here to give my love to Pontiac and Oldsmobile because I truly love them. :(
Haha, I always thought the oldsmobile had possibly the worst name in cars. Old and Mobile. Why would anyone under 65 want one?
@@mattm7798 I'm in the under 65 demographic and I still want an Olds lol, in fact I have one now 😂
@@mattm7798 I'm 16 going on 17, and I was ALWAYS obsessed with the Alero coupe
@@mattm7798 to be fair the founder's last name was Olds.
I love this roundup of brands sold in America. You ought to mention Holden in the next one.
My first car was an Eagle Talon. Absolutely loved that car.
Pontiac was so sad when they went out due to bankruptcy my sister owns a G6 GT and there simple cars
It's crazy how many companies GM has ruined and killed over the years.
Why did i just get an actual ad for a nissan frontier done by nolan
I’ve got 6 1965-66 Pontiacs. Such great cars.
Can’t believe Justin just casually mentioned Hotwives 😂🤣
I just wanted to say, Justin was the perfect choice as new member back then and he's been rocking it.
4:19 just gonna casually slide a 9/11 joke in there lmao
really loved with the two giant Choro-Q there
I had a 93' Bonneville, I loved that 3800 motor, best engine I've ever had under a hood(not fastest,just overall best I've had). Felt like riding on clouds, interior was comfy and plenty of room in the trunk, I forgot the average MPG but gas wasn't as expensive in 2004-2006 as it is now.
Bonnevilles were great cars
Honourable mention for Isuzu. While the brand hasn’t gone entirely defunct as they are still producing commercial duty trucks for the US market, Isuzu has not sold a passenger vehicle in the US since 2008 with their last models being a rebadged Colorado and Trailblazer(I-290 & Ascender) through their partnership with GM.
Nickleback's Chad Kroeger used the brand in a song about wanting to be a rock star. Everybody _still_ didn't care, and everybody probably hated it _more_ because Nickleback.
They still exist as a car brand in Australia, and they are very popular. They sell the Isuzu DMAX and the MUX, which are original cars, and are awesome.
Strange, they still sell sedans in asia
I can vouch for that dent resistance, I rear ended my old Oldsmobile 88 with an 07 Ion lvl 3, neither of them took so much as a dent, although I did fling a little piece of triangle plastic next to the Saturn's headlight across the driveway. I hit the Oldsmobile doing about 30 mph, not a dent. 2 scratches. Miss both those cars.
“You can’t just sell sketches”
Nikola: ‘hold my beer..’