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British guitarist analyses whether Herman's Hermits were live in 1966!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- Tonight we're going back to 1966 to take a look at Herman's Hermits playing and singing live!
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Hey wings of p thank you for the spot in your thingybob I am happy to admit we preferred to play live on TV because everyone thought we were a boy band because we were young, and we didn't think that much of ourselves and never wanted to impress musicians. Now it's nice that those boys up there with me get the reward of acclaim from other musicians which they didnt get back then being in the shadow of the beatles and the shadows. on wings we go peter noone (HERMAN)
I love it when the artist analzyed appreciates Fil!
Hello from Texas, and from the newest subscriber to your YT Channel. ❤
You were my favorite a 4or5 and I still sing your songs regularly to evoke those times. Kitchen radio. Whata cool string of songs.
Hey Peter Noone! Cool of you to stop in! I love seeing the real artist reply. Now I’m going to research your band and see how you got on.
I remember Peter from the time we were at St. Bede's. He was in the lower iv th. I was a prefect in the lower vi th and had the dubious pleasure of getting the whole form to Friday afternoon benediction. Happy days!
Wings of Pegasus looks like the happiest dude in the world when he is listening to music. He becomes this beaming light of positivity
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hear hear
he looks like a proud dad, enjoying his kid's school performance.
He's high!
Because you feel his love of music☺
I always thought Herman's Hermits were very underrated
Not underrated at the time! Lots of hits
I worked with the original Hermits several times in 1974 and those guys were one of the tightest bands I've ever worked with. They opened with "She loves you" and sounded like the Beatles but better! The audience went wild. Just very underrated musicians! Just extremely talented.
Herman's Hermits was great. Peter Noone was one of the first of the British Invasion singers that actually sounded English to us American kids. They put out some really good songs.
Yes. He and Gerry Marsden let their true unique accents shine through, in their songs. Both of them, a joy to listen too.
Saw Peter Noone in concert last year (2019), and his voice was still great! He even included non-Hermit Hermits songs, Elvis included. The guy can sing!!
I shared the stage with Peter Noon. He and his band were great! He’s a very funny guy and really knows how to work a crowd…
Peter Noone and his band just played the Canyon Club in Agoura Hills,CA. My wife and daughter were there with the ladies from their job. My wife brought our old vinyl albums and Peter was gracious and signed his albums from the 60's. She produced all the pictures she took, Peter still has all the energy from the era.
Peter Noone was not just a great sixties rocker, he later worked to raised money to get a handicapped-friendly van for the crippled Mike Smith (the great lead singer of the DC5): that was one of his greatest hits.
I didn't know that -- how wonderful. RIP to Mike, such an undeserved demise.
He also hosts a show called "Something Good" on Sirirus XM Radio's 60's Gold. He tells stories and plays great music from the 60s every Saturday.
Adoro essa música!😊❤😂
Peter performed in a run of the Pirates of Penzen in SF about 35 years ago - one of the nicest and least pretentious performers we ever worked with at the Orpheum theatre.
I'd like for people to know what a good human being Peter Noone is. He was instrumental in raising funds to assist the late Mike Smith of The DC5 when he suffered a severe spinal cord injury.
Cute smile, damn fine man.
Everyone stay well! 😷❤️
One of my favorite 'British Invasion' bands. Peter Noone's ageless. Puts me in mind of how time seemed to stand still for years, for producer/music personality Dick Clark.
My dad sees these guys every year. He took a friend and I last year - seriously one of the best shows! Peter is hilarious and his voice sounds fantastic. If we get out of this pandemic and you have the chance, I highly recommend seeing them. Absolutely wonderful!
"No Milk Today" written by Graham Gouldman who wrote songs for The Hollies, The Yardbirds, and Herman's Hermits. This English band has many great songs that never get old nor tired of listening. Peter Noone is fun to watch. Saw him perform at Foxwoods in Connecticut and he is a incredible entertainer.
Graham Gouldman was also a founding member of 10cc.
I love your unique analysis of different songs by different artists. Even when it's negative you put a positive spin on it.
Wow, nothing better than the actual musician himself responding to Fil and praising his analysis. That was just plain cool 😎
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Lovely memories from my childhood with Herman's Hermits and the British Invasion. Dear Wings of Pegasus, I like your channel and the passion you show. Congrats!!
I was a huge HH fan from the age of 12 and still am! HUGE crush on Peter. Wonderfully talented band with a humble attitude. I would LOVE to see Peter perform live.
Derek Leckenby actually played the solos on a number of their hits, which was quite an accomplishment considering that the best session guitarists in London (Jimmy Page and Big Jim Sullivan) were just a phone call away. And Peter Noone is such a natural! Perhaps the most underrated band in the British Invasion.
Fil, I have no idea how you do what you do. I love the performers you analyze, but I think the real star of your video channel is Fil himself. You're the most entertaining personality to ever bless the realm of TH-cam cyberspace. Rock on!
Thanks!
absolutely true, and amen.
Dale - I've often thought this thought myself about Fil. I will add his knowledge of musical history regarding groups and incredible guitar players over not one decade, but several decades. My favorite channel on TH-cam by far.
Peter has an iconic voice that contributed to their songs being hits. In this clip Peter is forming the words with his mouth in a natural way and not robotic miming. Thanks for the interesting facts on fixing guitar mistakes.
For all you rockers it is useful to point out that Herman's Hermits were a BOY BAND. We were all teenagers and getting where we got was a great achievement and all the praise for the success can be shared equally by EVERYONE who was around at the time including the lady who made the tea and cucumber sandwiches. We grew up in the shadow of greatness and never tried to impress other musicians. You know what happens to people who want to impress musicians. We wanted to be popular and with MICKIE MOST at the controls and having the opportunity to ask our friends who would become led zeppelin to slap a guitar on this jimmy and hey clem come up with a groove and vic flick can you slam a guitar that will work on this one, all of whom happened to be in the studio looking for opportunities to PLAY not WORK our dream came true. we wanted to be heard on the radio like HARRY SECOMBE
Herman's Hermits didn't you give error brown and Tony Wilson (hot chocolate ) there first chart action with one of there songs ?
Love you lads. Moved to Whalley Range too late. Lol. Sorry I came back home.
A "boy band" that ACTUALLY played and sang -- no auto-tune for you guys and no studio musicians on the records, correct?
DJBiscuit Peter Noone once admitted that studio musicians performed on their records but added that the band performed their material live in concert. The term “Boy Band” does not do Herman’s Hermits justice since when I think of a “boy band”, I think of those acts like Backstreet Boys and New Kids on the Block.
Once got to meet the band at the ACE Music store in Miami.
Thankyou again...FIL. ..their music was so great...part of the soundtrack to my life...and thankyou Herman and your Hermits..it's great to see your comment Herman...this is so great..😀
A terrific live performance by a bunch of very accomplished young musicians. Great video explaining what's exactly going on.
Yes, they played live.. I even remember Peter...at least once, on a show..purposely...left out a word...and smiled...to SHOW they were playing live.. that band always ...sounded great live...and their personality...always...played a part in their performances...
A person who thinks this performance isn't 100% live needs to have their hearing (and eyes) checked. It's amazing how daft most TH-camrs are about recognizing live, semi- live and total lip sync performances.
Normal and talented young boys having fun and expressing themselves without embarrassing anyone, where are those humans now?
Its very fresh isnt it.
Peter still tours constantly, and his concerts are wonderful and full of energy! Check out his touring schedule.
Really like this guy's reactions. My husband was a milkman in the 60s and one morning a note sticking out of a bottle just said 'Herman's Hermits 1966'. 😂
I am ever amazed at the talent and innocent poise of these teenage boys. I was 13 when my family visited my dad's relatives in Manchester, England from the US, in late 1965. The cousins were so proud of their hometown boys, Herman's Hermits! I remember all of us loudly singing along with all of their songs. What fun times!
The illusion of musical perfection is in itself magical. The sheer joy and enthusiasm of this host is what makes these trips down memorylane enjoyable.
Peter still performs and had more energy than any performer I've ever seen. Fabulous shows! Enjoyed this. Thanks, Fil!
The Peter & The Hermits played at Count Basie Theater June 2003. My wife surprised me with tickets to see them. Yes, their music is still Great Stuff!!! And to my surprise to realize that Peter Noone stood 6'3" tall, when he signed one of my favorite Herman's Hermit albums from childhood. His replacement musicians did an incredible job w/ those classic songs of way back then. Thanks again to Peter Noone.
Peter Noone Is 5’10”.
@@stephanieclaire2569 Thanks I had to wonder with that comment of 6’3”!
Herman’s Hermits! Gosh I love them!! Last I knew ,Peter Noone was still performing ,around the U.S. anyway.
I played a lot of gigs with the Hermits. This is definitely live. By the way the guy turning down the volume on the guitar is not hopwood, it's Lek Leckenby. These guys were fun to work with. they brought their own scotch with them. It was called Bell Scotch . they all got pretty loaded when they played, but they didn't smoke pot. They said that made them introvert, but the scotch made them extravert
would like to know more..
Chris, I'm not sure if you are talking to me, but if you are, what is it you would like to know
@@lukegowest Playing gig with HHs etc,,when? where? with who?
When and where was their last show before they broke up? I know it was sometime in 1971 .
They never broke up. Peter Noone left the group in 1971.
The rest of the original members continued as "The Hermits" with a new Record label. They then toured as Hermans Hermits again.
I was in a very popular midwest band called "Stilrock". Our manager put together shows with recording acts such as hermans Hermits, Tommy James and the Shondells, Three Dog Night, The Grass Roots etc. with us as the opening act. Most of these shows were at ballrooms in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana etc.
and Larger Show clubs, and colleges. since we were already popular at these places as a reginal band, we were the perfect band to open for bigger acts, as an additional draw.
It was because of these tours that The Grass Roots saw and met me.
They then asked me to join them, and I became the drummer for The Grass Roots.
Yes, took me a while, but like you said, when Noone did a little parody of the vocal part and then smiled at his own joke, you could hear the smile. Can't fake that!
HE IS SO GENUINE😍😍😍😍😍
So true all those lads love their fans too
Love that 😊 smile 🥰❤️
I especially enjoyed this one, Fil....probably because of my age and the fact that I remember all of Peter’s songs. I’ve also seen him twice over the past 2-3 years and I can tell you that he STILL puts on a fantastic show....MUCH better than most rockers his age. It’s very clear when you see him that he is an entertainer, not just a singer. He really gets the crowd worked up and it’s an amazing thing to see. You would also never guess that he’s in his early 70s when you watch him perform. Anyway, wonderful job on this one, as usual!
Really appreciate the demonstration on your guitar Fil! (and mentioning that mistakes are made ) Way down memory lane with this group ! your analysis is awesome ! \m/
Another great ,fascinating , entertaining ,analysis Wings of Pegasus. i love your videos!
Herman's Hermits were a good band who could definitely play live very well. Shared the stage with Peter Noone later in his years with his "new "Hermit band and they also were very good live. As Peter got older, his voice even got better. He looks and still sounds really good today in 2023 because he took care of himself. He was a huge reason the British Invasion was so dominate.
Wow, Herman's Hermits! Reminds me of when I was in the 3rd grade and would put on a concert at recess singing Henry the 8th! These guys always had great songs and made great memories for all of us!!!
Second verse, same as the first!
You stole my line, LOL. We'd crowd around a tiny transistor radio and argue who was better, HH, Beatles, DCF, RS.
We did the same in the coatroom. Great acoustics! 😂
Enery! Enery! Enery the eyeth I am🎶🎶😁 I am. Enery the eyeth I am. Good memories of childhood.
@@JohnRodriguesPhotographer Actually, that isn't the verse (either first or second), but the chorus. It's a old old song from the British version of Vaudeville, what the call Music Hall. Each verse tells about his wife's previous husbands. They still sing it with the verses sometimes in British singarounds to this day. You can hear the original on TH-cam. Noone couldn't remember the verses, so he just sang the chorus; they viewed it as a throwaway and never imagined it would be a monster hit in the US.
Saw Peter Noone a couple of weeks ago. He puts on a great show. The consummate pro. Btw, he killed this tune. 😊
Hi Wings, I'm a newbie but what I love is you're authenticity when you smile at certain points when listening. I smile at the same time as you. Need I say more. I just get it. Thank you x
Peter Noone was a heartthrob in my middle school and high school years. His music defined my teen years. His smile still melts me. He still performs but I have never had the opportunity to see him but I would go in a heartbeat if given the chance. Thank you for putting this band in the spotlight.
Peter Noone did a concert here at Foxwoods Casino in Connecticut and he was fabulous! His act and singing were clear and very entertaining. Thank you for your analysis. Always enjoyable to listen and learn new things about my favorite 60s English bands.
You really should when you can. Peter's such a great entertainer, pure fun!!
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Peter Noon and Eric Idle did guest appearance on a The Laverne and Shirley American sitcom show where they played musicians part of a famous English rock group. Pure funny those two were in it. You can see it on TH-cam . The episode is named "I Do, I Do" and it aired in 1981.
@@petrslivinski7481 I think I saw that... I also saw them another time on the Ted Knight Show (Spin-off of the Mary T Moore show) You. Never know when Peter will pop up! ☺️
The B&W vids are back, its classic rock history time classmates... Let's see what Fil has in store for us ?
I'm sure it will be cool,informative and interesting 😆🤘 " class is in session "
Yes the guitar is coming out ! 😉 Great stuff Fil I told you guys it would be interesting, that's why I never miss a night & there we have it..........
Thanx teach ! ✌😎
Hey Fil, I was so lucky to have seen the Hermits in person back in the early or mid sixties. They were excellent in person clearly talented with their instruments. Peter Noone had loads of carisma and was fun to watch.
My teen crush ❤️ Most of their songs sound like bubble gum music now, but I did love them way back when. Thanks, Fil, for verifying their authenticity ❣️
I have to keep coming back to this Herman Hermets songs I 💕 love them I was younger than him but in love with Herman Hermets. My first 💕
Herman’s Hermits were a fave of mine back in the 60’s. Yep, ‘There’s a kind of hush’ was a big hit here in the States! I think ‘Henry the 8th’ was the first I heard of the group, fun song to sing as young teens...Great analysis Fil!
I also grew up with "Lovin' Spoonful" and John Sebastian. These cats were not a pre-fab four like half of the frustrated Monkees "musicians".
I loved them from their first US release, when I was 13, and even bought two of their early LPs which weren't bad at all. They had quite a long run as pop groups did, especially for groups that didn't write their own songs. There wasn't even one clunker up through "Kind of a hush" in 1967. After that the quality of the songs plummeted, probably they just weren't being offered good material any more because they were regarded as uncool. "Museum", a remake of a very cool song from a Donovan LP, had quite a strong arrangement and deserved to go top 10, but by then they were not getting airplay anymore. From late '67 on, if you weren't an SJW and didn't do edgy songs with psychedelic guitar work you were just regarded as a geezer.
I heard an interview with Herman asking him what their most requested song to this day is and he said it was No Milk Today! Great song.
Written by Graham Gouldman! See my reply above!
Herman is a fictional name as part of the name of the whole group, Herman's Hermits. The person you are calling Herman is probably Peter Noone.
@@JW...-oj5iw Herman is Peter Noone is Herman
A couple of those drum fils are so recognizable as being from the mid 1960s--one can hear them in many other songs. Great work laying down the bricks behind the kit.
Peter Noone, Derek Leckenby, Keith Hopwood, Karl Green, Barry Whitwam, are all talented guys in their own rights. Herman's Hermits where a fun band with great tunes. thanks for analysis these guys great demonstration again Fil.
I was in a band with Derek Leckenby and Barry Whitwam when they were pre Hermits .I can assure you that Lek was one of the finest players on the group scene in Manchester in the 60 's and Barry "Bean " Whitwam was a competent drummer.Keith and Karl honed their talents also,pre Hermits and you could say that Peter Noone was very lucky to have those four talented guys behind him to back him up.
djangorheinhardt… Thanks for you reply comment.
See them now. Guys i grew up with are with them. Always on the road actually - in the air 😊
@@jennifursun3303 Obviously with the band touring extensively all over the world they could not suddenly pop up in a London studio to learn and run through new songs,hence the need for session players to make a demo of the song which was ready for them when they got home.The lead guitar playing on " Silhouettes " was originally played by Vic Flick,John Barry's guitarist and I think Jimmy Page( Paige ?) helped out at times.I can assure you that Derek Leckenby was never faced with any guitar playing problems that he could not easily surmount.He could,when time allowed ,play jazz with like minded players ,for his own enjoyment.What the band could not surmount was the thieving money grubbing scum bags of agents like Alan Klein, firms like MGM Records in the US and several agents and managers in this country who I cannot name, who robbed them blind.It is only recently that they got a proportion of it back.It is telling that these thieves numbered amongst them a couple of accountants,but the greediest and most vicious were......get ready for it.......LAWYERS ! or as I call them,"the Legal filth..Hope that answers your query Jennifer.
djangorheinhardt The Animals were ripped off royally by their management. Their earlier hits made millions but the band didn’t reap a fraction of what they were owed.
The Moody Blues, during the time of this first big hit, “Go Now”, while on tour, only got a few dollars a day for spending money from their management.
Bo Diddley got ripped off royally by Arc Music which was why he refused to perform the hits that made him famous, while touring in the 1970s. He eventually sued and won a fortune in back pay in royalties.
💥Got me on this one Fil. I lived through these times and have never seen this performance. Live or dubbed it really didn’t matter. It was a new media for performers and took time to figure it all out. Thank you for all you do. 👍👍✌️
EXACTLY NEVER MADE A DIFFERENCE TO ME IF IT WAS LIVE OR DUBBED THEY WERE GREAT!!!
I use to be a Volvo Service advisor in Santa Barbara '79, One Day Chris Hillman from the Byrds stopped in for service & decided to wait for his car instead of taking a loaner, 20 Minutes Later, Kenny Loggins arrives & see's Chris Hillman & decides to stay, 25 minutes after that comes Peter Noone, It was so cool, They all hung out in the Lounge while the cars were being serviced & were talking Life & Music,
Fil, this Band was unique because their style was English Music Hall and no one else was doing it at the time. I saw Peter Noone about 7 years ago and he was six feet tall and gave a great show.
"Leaning on the lampost" is as Music Hall as you could get. And of course Henry VIII was a classic Music Hall song omitted the original verses, which it's said Noone had forgotten.
When I was a tyke I loved Herman's Hermits but I've never heard this tune....LOVED IT. Great video....Thank You.
Hey! Herman's Hermits... I'm all signed up! One of best Happy-sounding-Sad songs ever. Very cool analysis, as fun as the song!
Composer of those incredible chord changes (and lyrics) was Graham Gouldman, he of 10cc, Wax with Andrew Gold, and tons of other songwriting and performing credits! Still with us at 73!
bradness , how did 10cc choose that name😀
@@robertsmyth4998 apparently 10 cc is the amount of fluid that one expels during a leg over, that's what I read,,, look it up for yourself.
Marc Marcello already knew, Annie Othen on bbc Coventry and Warwickshire radio put us right some years ago, can’t remember how she explained it but we were left in no doubt, bless her,
@@robertsmyth4998 Well, in the time it took me reply, others have answered, but I have only ever heard that 9cc is the amount of ejaculate of the normal human male, so........It may be apocryphal, but that's all I've ever heard!
Being a 50 year drummer, that roll into the last chorus shows that he is actually playing. When you are miming, sometimes drummers miss those rolls.
So pleasant to watch you validate this amazing piece. Thanks for sharing joy and knowledge.
Oh my I can not even tell you how much I loved Peter Noone when I was nine years old and to see that he responded to you makes me smile,One day I hope to see him in person. What a joy this is.
Such great guitar work throughout this band's repertoire. No showing off, just competent and tasteful. I have been a huge fan since the beginning. I teach English, but have a Hi-Fi in my classroom and the Hermits are on my playlist! I generally hook one or two a semester. I saw Mr.Noone live a few years back and he still has the chops. Derek Lekenby was such a fine player and one of my guitar heroes! Such a loss. Many thanks to Peter Blair Denis Bernard Noone and his mates.
Fil, You continue to amaze! Considerate analysis of technique and performance pitfalls/triumphs. Thnx!
Good to see HH getting some deserved attention.
Very interesting! I first saw them in 1965. My 6th grade teacher took a few of us girls to his concert! What an experience! Still a big fan today! Peter Noone is the Best!
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I also first saw them live in 1965! It was an experience I will never forget, and I still love Peter and his music today!
@wildmountainthyme4123
Saw him end of Nov for Olde English Christmas Show...which was great! Will see him again next week in Myrtle Beach, SC! Always so much fun! Everyone should check his website and get concert dates & info!
@@catbus13 He puts on a terrific show, doesn't he? I last saw him in 2015, but would love to go see him again!
You explain that really well about the way throwing yourself off by making a mistake and then continuing to make mistakes because you dwell on the one you just did.
Blessed to see him 2 years ago in a casino in Oregon. What a comfortable entertainer, and his great voice, still the same, nailed it.........everyone had such a great time..singing along encouraged..such a great time perminant smile all through concert...always wondered if he was as nice as he seemed....blown away after the last song he walked off the stage and his band announced he was out in the hall to sign autographs and chat to each and everyone that wanted to stay. Absoluty a fab entertainer....do go see.
Man, as a young kid I loved Herman's Hermits. Peter Blair Bernard Denis Noone was my idol.
I always enjoyed listening to these guys on the radio when I was younger. I think I was around 12 at the time. Thanks for the trip down memory lane Fil! Cheers, Steve in USA
Saw Peter Noon live in York in the 90s. He kissed my hand. Me and my friend, who would have been 40, screamed like teenagers when Peter came out!! Happy days!!
Hi Fil! I was just listening to Herman’s Hermits the other day! One of my favorite groups of the sixties! I liked all the groups from across the pond! Loved the new sound! I realize now being eclectic in my music taste was great...I never got stuck with one sound, one group! I always thought they played live...never thought any different! I feel so lucky to have been at the beginning of all these groups! Hugs! ✌️
Suzanne Robbins... If You have not seen this one enjoy!(in 1970, Herman's Hermits were invited to perform in the presence of HRH Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother. This is their day th-cam.com/video/w19S3-QzK-k/w-d-xo.html
One of the things I liked best about music from 60s, 70s, & 80s too, was that it was okay then to listen to all different kinds of music, attend shows, and even have different types of genres at the same festivals. There wS less social stigma to simply digging the tunes. You could attend an Earth, wind & fire show one Weekend and John Denver The NexT, and then Queen the following week ... and you weren’t stigmatized. Instead, people of different ages, backgrounds, heritage would just ask “how was it?” or “are they doing any more shows here?” There seems to be less diversity in the music today and even less tolerance of those whose taste prefers to zag when the mainstream artists are selling a zig!
I miss those olden days where everything was out there, and the quality rose to the top across genres! How about y’all?
Good analysis Fil, once again. Rock!
@@cultosaur262 the late 50,s ,60,s & 70,s have produced what we can now call real handmade music played by real musicians. The amount of great music that evolved during that era was unbelievable. It was the greatest music era ever and still strong today and will be in years and years to come. Music has never been as great or fear ever will again. Glad i grew up then.
Drew Pall Thanks for sending me this link! Had not seen this!
Suzanne Robbins... Your welcome! it show how talented the guys where.
I loved Peter Noone when I was a kid. He is really charismatic. i was right! Excellent instructional video as usual. Very respectful in highlighting the group's humanity. You play your guitar wonderfully!
One time I was playing rhythm guitar on a song & during the guitar solo (other guy!) the videographer was trained on MY hands! When I mentioned it to him later, he said "Nobody will know." And he was a musician!
Another wonderful song from Peter and the boys. So many hits. Thanks Fil for reviewing 60s artists who truly had talent.
Less than 15 seconds into the song and I can't fathom how anyone could think this _isn't_ live. Of _course_ it is, the sound is unmistakable.
Possibly because there are times the sound & film are poorly synchronised...it is most evident watching Peter Noones singing.
Thanks for doing this Fil. This is far more detailed analysis than I would have imagined. They were a pop band, they were not a deep and heavy rock band and they understood what they were. But at the heart of it, they were a real band. A fully functioning, live touring, performing band, and as much as I love my rock music, I have always had a special spot for these guys. I was in hospital in 1967 and the only good happy memories I have of that time are Herman's Hermits (There's a Kind of Hush) and the Beatles (Penny Lane) being on the radio all the time. I hear those songs and I just smile :)
Oh and not too many bands can say that one of their opening acts was The Who (and here in Aus, Tom, Jones opened for them) :)
Great analysis Fil! I was a young schoolboy when this was a hit. The British Invasion was a huge part of my youth and songs like this bring me back to a wonderful place and time in my life.
Great analysis, Fil!
A couple clues I notice that would indicate it is live are:
2:02 when the singer hits that low note on “the end”, the player to the right whips his head over to look at him as if he’s impressed or surprised.
2:19 the singer lets out a yell.
In general, when a performance is mimed, the track they’re miming to is the exact studio recording that was released on the single.
thisversion clearly differs from that.
"No Milk Today," was written by the great Graham Gouldman ("For Your Love," "Heart Full of Soul," "Look Through Any Window," etc.) Mikey Most, the Hermits' producer, at some point used Jimmy Page, John Paul Jones and other session men on the Hermits' recordings, and the band was very upset when they found out that tracks had been laid down without them. Especially upset was late lead guitarist, Derek "Lek" Leckenby. The band stood up for him, but all Mickey Most could do was insult them, when he commented in a documentary on himself, and said that, other than Noone, the band were "unemployable" and were lucky to have fallen into whatever good fortune they had. Mickey Most also said in that documentary that Peter Noone, who clearly was the star of the band, should have focused on one profession or the other, either singing or acting, and that he was spread too thin after the Hermits by trying to have a multifaceted career. While Mickey had unbelievably great song-picking instincts, his early days of producing with the Hermits, the Animals, etc. were of the "Bing-Bang-Boom" school, minimizing studio time---and hence maximizing profits---by recording pretty much everything live, and in one take if at all possible. Eric Burden speaks of this production "process" quite pointedly when talking about recording "House of the Rising Sun" and other hits, saying they'd be laying down an album in half a day, with other bands such as Herman's Hermits waiting in the hallway. Mickey's favorite word: "NEXT!!!" Truly, Mickey Most was the complete merger of art and commerce, with the balance falling heavily on the commerce side. But I guess that's how you end up driving a Rolls Royce and living in a castle whilst band members huddle together "in a mean street back of town...just two up, two down."
From Wikipedia: Leckenby played on all the band's US and UK Number One hits and provided the solo on "I'm Henry VIII, I Am". Karl Green commented on VH1's My Generation-Herman's Hermits that Most's use of session musicians on some of the band's records was unfair to Leckenby in particular. During the 1970s and 1980s, Leckenby tried to set the record straight with the rock media, explaining the large body of guitar playing he contributed to the band's records. Even the band's US label ABKCO failed to credit the Hermits' playing in the liner notes to its retrospective on the band. Leckenby's skills are apparent not only on Herman's Hermits records, but also on videos of the band's live appearances including the 1965 NME music awards and the Herman's Hermits Hilton Show. Additionally, Leckenby can be heard on several releases by Hopwood's Pluto Music, including the compilation album Vault 69. Leckenby is credited with arranging the band's first big hit, "I'm into Something Good". His skills on guitar and dobro are heard on releases such as the LP A Whale of a Tale and the later singles, such as "Ginny Go Softly" and "Heart Get Ready for Love". Despite the split with Noone, Leckenby always spoke highly of his friend and defended the singer's vocal abilities to critics. Noone also praised Leckenby's talent in numerous interviews over the years.
The Hollywood Palace, The Ed Sullivan Show, The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, The Andy Williams Show, The Flip Wilson and many others featured acts that sang live.
Another excellent overview and analysis! Thanks for covering this song.
Great song Fil and what a great band they were! One of my mother’s all time favourites who introduced their music to me at a young age! Thanks Mum! Cheers Mario! 😀🤘👌
FIL, GREAT VIDEO AND YOUR COMMENTS, I HAD ALL OF THE 45 RPM RECORDS WHEN THESE GUYS CAME OUT, A PLUS THAT YOU GOT YOUR GUITAR OUT AGAIN, I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS WHEN YOU DO THIS, , ROCK ON, COUSIN FIGEL
His lower notes come out better live than on the record!
I was so lucky to be a teenager back in the 60's. Such great music. I had the pleasure of attending a HH concert about 10 years ago. What an amazing night it was. Peter N. was fantastic. Such a humourous guy and his fabulous impressions. What a talent!
I had a grade school teacher named Mrs. Brown.
(She was a cool and knowing woman who loved baseball. Herman’s Mrs. Brown must’ve been lovely, too!)
Taking a break but coming back ASAP! 👍🏼
And why kind of bloke would marry a widow who’s been married seven times before?
A proud one! 😄
she was lovely but obviously not ateacher yet as she was only 16 and I was 15
There was an answer-song "Mrs. Jones your son gave up too easy."
Omg I haven’t heard this song in forever. Love it. Fil, have you ever heard of some of these bands before we requested them to be analyzed? I love that you do this. It’s wonderful to hear your perspective and expertise on these songs....
Debby
Most of them, but not all!
Great, I loved these guys. When I think back to my twenties "seein' 3 concerts a week, I knew a LOT less like the high-hat. I could be only tell you I loved the sound of the stick on the snare rim in a concett hall. I was lucky to work in a music store, because the piano tuner took the time to play organ through a nearby Leslie speaker. I'd love the swelling sounds but not how it was done. You're great at explaining all things musical!
Thanks for featuring Herman's Hermits. I remember them as being so adorable and their songs were just fun. I love your detailed analysis of these guys. I don't play an instrument but always learn from your videos. At this time we are experiencing "Splendid Isolation" (Great song by the late great Warren Zevon)
We went on a vacation to Atlantic City back in 1966 or 1967 when I was about 12-13. Our rooms were on the top floor of our hotel. Across the street on the top floor of that hotel was Herman’s Hermits. The street below was jammed with screaming girls. We could wave to each other but couldn’t hear each other because of the big ballyhoo below. We snapped a bunch of pictures but you couldn’t tell whether it was the Hermits or The Rolling Stones! Thanks Fil for the great explanation on this subject.
PS: The CC’s were on fo mine and what a laugh! Totally off the wall!😂
All I had to see was Herman’s hermits and you had me. I was born in 1959 so just a little girl with older brothers and sisters that expands my music interest from the late 50’s to my own era of the 70’s. Herman’s hermits were one of the favorites
As a kid I listened to the Best of Herman's Hermits album easily over a 100 times Such a great time for music !!
Great break down of this vid! Love this song and the way you explain everything. Thanks, Fil! Another awesome video from you!
i saw it differently
their body language
distinguishes how
well they could
actually play up on stage.
I've been around musicians
all my life; and when a group
body's sing along with their
composition , it is a dead give
away it was live. Also, Peter
was jumping from the
drums and one of the guitars,
just by watching his rhythm you can .
tell which he was following at the time -
Your cover of Hotel California was awesome! You are really good
something tells me im into something good, THANKS FIL
These guys really sounded sharp and looked cool on the stage. What a time ... everybody neatly dressed. Will this atitude ever come back again?
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS VIDEO, and have watched it many, many times. This was from the year I was born, 1966. I always felt I was born 20 years too late. I wish I could jump into the video, and join the crowd.
I love the innocence and sweetness of this.💟 It's a very catchy song, Peter is ABSOLUTELY ADORABLE. The video just makes me very happy. I don't care about any mistakes. It's ALL GOOD to me!! 💕💕
I love the way you explain all the performance, the singing and each instrument. Thank you for sharing your talent with us. 🇨🇦🇬🇧🍁
Saw them live at the Rose Bowl in Los Angeles when I was 13 in 1966. They were a GREAT band.
Fil - Peter Noone is one of the GREAT lead singers of all time in rock n roll. Very underrated. I have seen The Hermits without him and Peter also. They are all nice people. Peter is the Hermans Hermits. I met Derek a couple of times. A good guy. RIP.
Great analysis of a super, fairly early UK band, loved these tracks by these guys and still they sound so melodical and easy to listen to, and the break down by Fil makes these videos so very interesting.
I listened to this at work, then came home and watched it. Had to see what you were talking about. Very nice analysis Fil.
Wow!!! Blast from the past...the long past. One of the few singers that you could tell he had a heavy British accent.
Yes, especially that song, I'm Henery the Eighth, I Am.
max stax , I hear "Enery" the VIII
Kind of a Hush is my fav
Candice Scott Mrs Brown u have a lovely daughter.
I think my favorite would have to be "I'm into something good" I got to see them live back in the 90's at a free concert in the city park. Not sure how many original members there were, it was billed as Herman's Hermits starring Peter Noone.
Saw Peter Noone live a couple of years ago and he's such a great performer and still sounds great. he's not ageing also! Barry still on the road with his version of the band also. One of his guys did ping me on Facebook a month or so ago about their 50th-anniversary tour but because of the covid-19 outbreak, it's now been cut short halfway through the tour so maybe in 2021!
Well you got me here. My favorite song from my guilty pleasure of a group. Herman's Hermits had a ton of US hits in the 1960s, always immaculately recorded and performed. Peter said they used their core original group to record, with guest session stars taking some turns. Incredibly, Peter Noone's HH are still performing. I know because I saw them about a year ago locally. Peter vocals sounded fresh as he has regularly performed through the years. Very entertaining with a clean professional sound. Trivia: They had no bass player. The keyboard player played bass with his left hand.
Fil, once again, fab analysis from a musician's viewpoint! In your mention of the guitarist's mistake and trying to "cover it," you reminded me of what I was told to do if I made a mistake--to keep on performing as if the mistake didn't happen. Otherwise not only was the mistake too obvious, like you said, the musician would be thrown off by it. I have "No Milk Today" on CD and have seen Peter Noone in concert several times. His voice is still a rich baritone and he gets the audience going. Once again, Fil--totally fab analysis!