Well many do it but get disliked because its the wrong way, if these benchmarks were done at 4K then the FPS would be the same across all CPU's presented, somwere around 50'ish
Wow, this JUST popped up on my recommendations, almost missed it, in fact I had missed it in the past, bummer, lots of great info. Thank you for the video. 👍🙂👍
These are my favourite videos, you do the best cpu benchmarks I've found on TH-cam. Most others get it all wrong with maxing the settings and using a weak Gpu (relatively speaking) such as the 1060. Bravo! Amazing content!
Those vids are the worst! Differences of less than 5fps. The pro is just there to hit the targets the ps4 can't, rather than set new ones (too bad 45fps isn't a vsynced fps)
It costs the same as a 6700k, if you're on a budget, yeah wait for Ryzen. But if you're looking for a high tier build with a good price, then this sits at the perfect price point.
no difference clock for clock i.e. if both running at same frequency...if 7600k is running at a 5% higher clock speed over the 6700k then it would be theoretically 5% faster...but in real world scenario (gaming :D) there is no noticeable difference
who the fuck compares a gpu with a cpu..980 was clocked at 1300, gtx 1070 clocks at 2000, thats 55% increase in clock not to say more refined architecture...6700k overclocks to 4.6-4.8...7700k overclocks to 4.8-5..thats 4.25% higher overclock performance with absolutely no difference in ipc
Thank you so much for actually showing a comparison, in a game, between stock vs. OC. I'm running a stock 4820k and have never overclocked it simply due to the fact that I can not find a single comparison between stock v. OC performance in games.
Running a 7700k @5.0 GHz completely stable with 1.36v. With a Corsair H100i V2 AIO liquid cooler my idle temps are in the 30c range and at full Aida64 load it hits 70-75c max.
Is a whole gaming system better than a single CPU? Yes, obviously, you can't do much with a CPU and nothing else. Is the Switch's CPU better than this CPU? Not in a million years. Is the Switch better than a fully featured PC containing this CPU? Not even in an alternative dimension. Is this really dull and generic bait? You betcha.
I bought an i7-7700k, but I'm upgrading from an AMD Fx 8320. Also had to upgrade my motherboard and RAM. That being said, I don't see the benefit if you already had an i7-6700k. Can't wait to get my new parts installed into my PC!
The only reason to upgrade is if you want Netflix in 4k on your PC. But people who can afford this CPU probably already have a 4k smart TV w/ Netflix so this processor is useless.
TheGoncas2 so the gpu on modern graphicscard cant show 4k if not the cpu supports it? what? thats stupid if true. You can game with 60fps in 4k but not watch netflix?
That release date is only for the 8 core 16 thread option which is at least 500$. The 4 core 8 thread options will most likely be coming out months afterwards.
Worth it for me. Got crossfire R9 270x working at 40% each on battlefield ultra but my i5-4430 is constantly at 99% causing my performance lag, so I purchased this as a long term upgrade to make sure the CPU isn't a problem for the foreseeable future
Nice video! I enjoyed watching it. Very informative. 7700K definitely provides better memory overclocking and higher core overclocking using lower voltage than 6700K. I have plenty of benchmarks proving that. It is not a 6700K with a little higher stock clock. However, running at stock or lower overclocks it would be silly to upgrade from 6700K to 7700K. It runs a little hotter than 6700K does, but if you are into more than moderate overclocking, the cost of the upgrade is worth every penny. And, for memory overclocking it is worth it. I had difficulty getting my DDR4-3200 memory to work correctly with 6700K and it required almost no effort with 7700K. I am able to hold stable 5.0GHz with 1.25V and -25 offset with my 7700K, and that is in a P870DM3 Clevo notebook.
A) It's not just a lack of competition, it's engineering hurtles. They didn't stick at 14nm for another go because they wanted to, it's because 10nm is taking longer that I'm sure they like. B) Other companies claiming 14nm are not be totally truthful- as Intel is at true 14nm for all features/path, other companies have a mix of nm with some aspect of their hardware manufactured at higher than 14nm widths/sizes. The lack of competition is way more affecting prices than pace of technological advancement, and the max number of cores for consumers.
Pretty please do what you said with the faster RAM, you guys are doing some good work showing the benefits of faster ram when CPU bound and I'd love to see some 4000mhz or higher stuff compared 👍
In terms of new CPUs, you need a Core i3 (or Pentium Kaby Lake) with DDR4-2133/2400 for 30-40 FPS gaming, Core i5 @ 4.5 GHz with DDR4-2800+ for 60 FPS gaming, Core i7 @ 4.5 GHz with DDR4-2800+ for 100+ FPS gaming. Those CPU and memory frequencies are important if you do want to see dips below your target framerate. Do not go for a stock i5/i7 if you are targeting 60 FPS, the minimum framerate will suffer, you need the overclock and fast memory. I know that from experience, having chosen a Xeon Haswell (3.5 GHz with HT, DDR3-1600) back in 2013.
Current CPUs are easily more than enough for 60hz gaming but for 144hz and beyond, your GPU getting bored waiting on the CPU can become a real problem. The overwatch playerbase found this out the hard way, as players are encouraged to shoot for the highest FPS they can, and for the first time people used to being GPU bottlenecked in their games where running into CPU and Memory bottlenecks.
Where are we going from here? Back to the i7 5775C. Hope we will see L4 cache combined with DDR4. And please - make your benchamrks, adding to comparisons the Broadwell with L4 (5675C & 5775C).
I'm interested re the fast RAM. Are the gains due to just frequency or bandwidth? Testing with one stick of RAM vs two should shed light on this. Also, I wonder whether X99 gains from fast RAM given the much larger memory bandwidth available. In your X99 vs skylake video you showed higher gaming performance and I was wondering whether overclocking the cache (uncore) would help X99 given it runs at a lowly 3000MHz by default. I believe it is at least 4000MHz on Z170.
UndyingGhost my i7 3770k overclocked to 4.2ghz has same score with 7700k . you buy i7 7700k for save some electric fee? 350usd can be paid for 100year about their enengy different cost . intel is fucking making jokes on customers
What is your opinion on the msi z270 m5 mobo ? Is it good overall ? did you stumble upon some limitations or something like that ? Anything really even if it's nitpicking
I'd never buy an i5. i7 for the win. I wouldn't waste money on a damn i9 neither, if I am going to build a computer for multitasking/programming etc type work stuff aka multi threaded work, I'd buy the 1950x threadripper for 1000. But as far as gaming goes... nothing beats the i7 7700k, not even Ryzen, and it's been months since it's release, still not competing with the 7700k in gaming, but it does destroy it in everything else... 8 cores... that's why, but core for core performance is the reason why intel wins for gaming.
Last year I made a pc it had a 6700k and it did the job. I sold that pc now I want a new one. Was thinking the 7700k, but by the look of it it's not worth the extra moolah. So what do I buy ? Another 6700k ? Or the 6800k six core ? For games like arma 3/ 4 when it's released. Squad, ark, battlegrounds etc. I plan on getting the 1080 Amp. I hear the 6800k is better for FPS but is not as good as the 6700k on single threads, i.e. Arma , any ideas what to get ?
upgrading from my 6700k to the 7700k reduced my temps and runs more stable then the 6700k. I always had a hard time getting my 6700k to run at reasonable temps @4.6
Review the new pentium g4560, it's the first pentium that supports hyper threading now (4 threads) just like an i3 and it only costs 70€ / usd. I'm wondering if the i3 6100 is obsolete now, since the pentium g4560 is pretty much just like the i3 6100 on paper and it costs way less (40€ / usd less). It could be the best budget cpu right now. You could also add some new games to your benchmark like watch dogs 2, which is very cpu demanding and optimized very well and throw away AC unity which is one of the worst ports ever (I don't know why do you even have it in).
Great video, it is clearly a cpu performance review so it is ok, but what happens when we don't use a titan x overclocked? Is it ok to par a 1060 with an i5 or we have a performance loss vs an i7? a 1070 needs an i7? This sort of questions, i think that a video like that would be useful to a lot of people.
Interesting you show 2 dimms of DDR4 in dual channel in the picture earlier on, of your hardware. Are you running DDR4 at dual channel (2 x 8GB) or DDR4 at quad channel (4 x 4GB)???
I've a feeling that Broadwell lacks behind because of DDR3L and I have heard it isn't very overclockable. It's very good and would likely blow away both Sky/Kabylake but it starts to lack behind because those two can get benefit of some fast DDR4 and nice overclocks. The performance per clock at least is very amazing. If you can pair it with some CL10 2400MHz or better DDR3 RAM and OC up to 4,2-4,5GHz it would be a clear winner.
Cristiano Siqueira lol the 5775c is only useful in mini itx systems without a dedicated gpu because of the strong igpu. other than that its just a low clocked broadwell quad with ht.
Broadwell packs the L4 128MB "Crystal Well" Cache, that once it's main purpose it's serving the iGP of it. But once the iGP is disabled when you are using an external GPU, the L4 acts to support the CPU in many cases, some games are really benefiting from it, such as GTA V and other open world type of Games. It was one of the most expensive mainstream CPUs to make, and because of it's price tag, and Clock Speeds, it didn't took off as we initially thought.
Hey Richard, could you please define faster memory? is it same timings and just faster frequency or do the timings get worse with the higher frequencys in your tests?
About the 2133mem with the skylake. why not just run with the same 2400mhz mems? I mean my cheap h110 mini-tix asus mobo have up to 3000mhz xmp settings in the uefi bios.
I'm still on an I7 950 (never overclocked). Is it worth upgrading to 7700k or maybe get the 6700k instead? Or wait for Ryzen and maybe some price drops from Intel? I'm using two 27" ASUS 1440p monitors @144hz with an MSI GTX1080, but I only game on one monitor, while the wife watches Netflix or TV on the other one :)
I would love to see, what difference would the RAM freq and CPU OC do in 1440p and 4k. Those who run expensive CPU and GPU and ram don't really play in 1080p so these tests are really irrelevant. We need to see some real life gains in existing "real" systems and not the "best case scenario" ala "what difference ram frequency/cpu oc has in 800x600". That is not important at all. The real question is, is 3600MHz memory worth investing in or are we gonna get the same performance with 3000MHz memory in 1440p ? What gains do we get when OCing the cpu to 4.8G in 1440p? We need tests for this mate! Thank you
True, but a lot of people are hitting thermal limits before hardware ones. Kaby Lake can take up to 1.4V safely and the TIM is pretty bad. Delidding can lower temperatures by up to 20C.
7700k is the best gaming CPU. the only drawback i see is price. Its just 4C/8T which can clock really high. Intel should consider dropping its price to 250$ or below. Because this isn't really a workbench CPU. Intel has been selling quad core cpu for almost a decade, I can't understand why its still priced so high.
so I'm planning to buy a new processor and consufed which one to buy from 7700k vs 6700k I've already got z170 mobo with updated bios which supports kaby lake but I don't find any real reason why to get i7 7700k if the gaming performance is same in both also in my country 7700k costs 50 usd more over 6700k
Excellent review by far. I have always been loyal to AMD Processors but as they are putting up no fight against Intel I will change my rig to Intel. I do a lot off video rendering now for my TH-cam Channel and play the occasional game such as Just Cause 3. I am currently using a Sabertooth Board with a Amd FX 8320 Black Edition overclocked and a Sapphire OC RX470 and will go for a middle ranged LG1151 planar board thou the new DDR4 Ram is going to to add to the additional cost but as you stated how important the ram will be for the I7 and with the option of higher ram bandwidth and the hope of a price drop soon with DDR4 Ram I should be able to upgrade to a decent medium ranged rig.
I'm on the market for a video editing and 3D modeling laptop. would you recommend waiting a few months for i7-7700HQ laptops or would current i7-6700HQ suffice my needs?
My religion says it's a sin to update to Kaby Lake if you already have Sky Lake.
This was a great review, very extensive. Unlike some other channels that do CPU benchmarks at 4K
Still needed benchmarks at 4K to be a complete comprehensive, extensive video review.
Only when testing a Graphics card, the CPU is taken out of the equation at that resolution
Yes, I figured. I heard that generic response from many people, but still it would be nice to see.
Well many do it but get disliked because its the wrong way, if these benchmarks were done at 4K then the FPS would be the same across all CPU's presented, somwere around 50'ish
Yeah I figured. I'm guessing at 4k you think it is futile to enable xmp overclock profile 1 of ram and/or cpu?
Wow, this JUST popped up on my recommendations, almost missed it, in fact I had missed it in the past, bummer, lots of great info. Thank you for the video. 👍🙂👍
The most informative video I've watched on the i7's and ddr4 ram differences. Thank you!! You guys are awesome.
this channel is amazing! I love how everything is detailed in every possible scenario. good job guys!
Brilliant review. One of the best CPU reviews I have ever seen. lots of real world examples and more than just a bunch of numbers. Fantastic work
Thanks for publishing this. For my needs, great 1440p gaming, I now will get i7 and 3000MHz RAM, and have no worries, and use my high end GPU.
These are my favourite videos, you do the best cpu benchmarks I've found on TH-cam. Most others get it all wrong with maxing the settings and using a weak Gpu (relatively speaking) such as the 1060. Bravo! Amazing content!
Yes, but what we really want is for you to post more PS4 patch comparisons.
ThatUndeadLegacy it's sarcasm duh.
+ThatUndeadLegacy have fun wasting your time with stupid repetitive CSGO and LOL. PC gaming in 2017 lol...
@Jeremiah Stewart that's the most idiotic comment i've ever read this year
ThatUndeadLegacy how about a girlfriend huh?
or you know.. a social life
Those vids are the worst! Differences of less than 5fps. The pro is just there to hit the targets the ps4 can't, rather than set new ones (too bad 45fps isn't a vsynced fps)
"That's a whole lot of not much" made my day.
Amazing review, exactly the information I was after with no ramble, well done!
tell John to get back to DF Retro
he said its next week on twitter
damn bro, you going hard for DF retro. Literally almost every new vid lol.
We can never go too hard for DF Retro. That show is so good it is inexcusable that next episode is taking so long. We should demand, petition.
It´s way too expensive. Rather wait for Ryzen.
It costs the same as a 6700k, if you're on a budget, yeah wait for Ryzen. But if you're looking for a high tier build with a good price, then this sits at the perfect price point.
Well if you follow the rumors, you will get an i7 6700k Ryzen CPU for 160€.
OpticalArts rumours are always rumours.
You really believe they're gonna offer 6700K gaming performance for 160?
I strongly believe we will get i5 performance for i3 price and i7 for i5 price yeah.
Its a fucking 6700K with a little higher Stock-Clock...
no difference clock for clock i.e. if both running at same frequency...if 7600k is running at a 5% higher clock speed over the 6700k then it would be theoretically 5% faster...but in real world scenario (gaming :D) there is no noticeable difference
But the whole "fucking" point is that it's a lower TEMPERATURE at a given clock speed.
So you can get it to a higher clock than Skylake.
I can tell this comment was made before the video was watched.
but the 7700k has more over clocking head room. clock for a clock a 1070 is about as fast as a 980. Would have to lower the 1070 alot
who the fuck compares a gpu with a cpu..980 was clocked at 1300, gtx 1070 clocks at 2000, thats 55% increase in clock not to say more refined architecture...6700k overclocks to 4.6-4.8...7700k overclocks to 4.8-5..thats 4.25% higher overclock performance with absolutely no difference in ipc
Thank you so much for actually showing a comparison, in a game, between stock vs. OC. I'm running a stock 4820k and have never overclocked it simply due to the fact that I can not find a single comparison between stock v. OC performance in games.
Running a 7700k @5.0 GHz completely stable with 1.36v. With a Corsair H100i V2 AIO liquid cooler my idle temps are in the 30c range and at full Aida64 load it hits 70-75c max.
Richard, I really like your videos, clear and easy to understand, keep on doing what you are doing!
5:27 WTF! the difference in the 30 FPS? 2133-3000 I do not believe.
Great video no one shows this kind of results, comparing the frequency of memories! Greetings from Chile!
Too bad the Switch is more powerful than this.
yeah switch is 2 times better than this
Is a whole gaming system better than a single CPU? Yes, obviously, you can't do much with a CPU and nothing else.
Is the Switch's CPU better than this CPU? Not in a million years.
Is the Switch better than a fully featured PC containing this CPU? Not even in an alternative dimension.
Is this really dull and generic bait? You betcha.
jordocondi But you agree it's bait, right?
jordocondi I'm surprised anyone fell for that
I bought an i7-7700k, but I'm upgrading from an AMD Fx 8320. Also had to upgrade my motherboard and RAM. That being said, I don't see the benefit if you already had an i7-6700k. Can't wait to get my new parts installed into my PC!
I think digital foundry should use planet coaster for cpu benchmarks that game can really push cpus to the limit !!!
Ridiculously low difference to the 6700k. No reason to upgrade at all.
Stairwave Unless you are starting from the ground up esp. from the AM3 and LGA 775 era. Even Sandy Bridge owners need not to upgrade.
who cares for me coming from the 3770k its good AVG+20FPS gain !!! and btw way would someone upgrade every Gen ???
The only reason to upgrade is if you want Netflix in 4k on your PC. But people who can afford this CPU probably already have a 4k smart TV w/ Netflix so this processor is useless.
TheGoncas2 so the gpu on modern graphicscard cant show 4k if not the cpu supports it? what? thats stupid if true. You can game with 60fps in 4k but not watch netflix?
TheGoncas2 that's such a poor attempt to establish peasantry on the PC.
will wait upgrade till Amd release Ryzen
a month from now
unreal900 what date
mid-late february
That release date is only for the 8 core 16 thread option which is at least 500$. The 4 core 8 thread options will most likely be coming out months afterwards.
Visgoth you have no proof.... NO ONE KNOWS YET.
Richard please compare the i7 5775C to these newer beasts. Remember that the 5775C has 128MB of L4 cache.
Thanks for the good work Richard.
Good promotion for Zen, thanks, DF.
excellent video! Just got my 7700k, 16gb 2400 DDR4 and a GTX 1070. Atleat I know that when its time to upgrade GPU, my PC will be up for it :)
Yes please on the 4000-4200 speed RAM testing.
I'm thinking about buying it and would really appreciate it! Thank you. :)
One of the first examples I've seen proving higher frequency memory provides better FPS. Good stuff.
Worth it for me. Got crossfire R9 270x working at 40% each on battlefield ultra but my i5-4430 is constantly at 99% causing my performance lag, so I purchased this as a long term upgrade to make sure the CPU isn't a problem for the foreseeable future
Nice video! I enjoyed watching it. Very informative.
7700K definitely provides better memory overclocking and higher core overclocking using lower voltage than 6700K. I have plenty of benchmarks proving that. It is not a 6700K with a little higher stock clock. However, running at stock or lower overclocks it would be silly to upgrade from 6700K to 7700K. It runs a little hotter than 6700K does, but if you are into more than moderate overclocking, the cost of the upgrade is worth every penny. And, for memory overclocking it is worth it. I had difficulty getting my DDR4-3200 memory to work correctly with 6700K and it required almost no effort with 7700K. I am able to hold stable 5.0GHz with 1.25V and -25 offset with my 7700K, and that is in a P870DM3 Clevo notebook.
A) It's not just a lack of competition, it's engineering hurtles. They didn't stick at 14nm for another go because they wanted to, it's because 10nm is taking longer that I'm sure they like.
B) Other companies claiming 14nm are not be totally truthful- as Intel is at true 14nm for all features/path, other companies have a mix of nm with some aspect of their hardware manufactured at higher than 14nm widths/sizes.
The lack of competition is way more affecting prices than pace of technological advancement, and the max number of cores for consumers.
Very good, thorough review. Thank You!
finally a pc related video
Pretty please do what you said with the faster RAM, you guys are doing some good work showing the benefits of faster ram when CPU bound and I'd love to see some 4000mhz or higher stuff compared 👍
New target is now 4K/144Hz, if 4K texture is added, along with much more physics affects like Gears of war 4, cpu power will need more again
Great video, very interesting. Didn't think faster ram would actually make that much of a difference. You have justified my splurging on ram. :)
astonishing review
thank you so much for everything you do: every question I have, you have the answer :)
tanks guys... this help me a lot
thanks for the ddr4 info!
Delid that CPU !!
I'd love to see an own video for RAM speed differences up to at least 3600MHz.
In terms of new CPUs, you need a Core i3 (or Pentium Kaby Lake) with DDR4-2133/2400 for 30-40 FPS gaming, Core i5 @ 4.5 GHz with DDR4-2800+ for 60 FPS gaming, Core i7 @ 4.5 GHz with DDR4-2800+ for 100+ FPS gaming.
Those CPU and memory frequencies are important if you do want to see dips below your target framerate. Do not go for a stock i5/i7 if you are targeting 60 FPS, the minimum framerate will suffer, you need the overclock and fast memory. I know that from experience, having chosen a Xeon Haswell (3.5 GHz with HT, DDR3-1600) back in 2013.
Thanks for the memory benchmarks. I have a hard time convincing people that memory speed matters a lot!
Current CPUs are easily more than enough for 60hz gaming but for 144hz and beyond, your GPU getting bored waiting on the CPU can become a real problem.
The overwatch playerbase found this out the hard way, as players are encouraged to shoot for the highest FPS they can, and for the first time people used to being GPU bottlenecked in their games where running into CPU and Memory bottlenecks.
great video review!
At least it's better than switch news...sigh.
My 7700k doing 4.8Ghz 1.32v ~75c Prime95 v28.10. 3000Mhz 14-14-14-34 2N RAM.
Where are we going from here?
Back to the i7 5775C. Hope we will see L4 cache combined with DDR4. And please - make your benchamrks, adding to comparisons the Broadwell with L4 (5675C & 5775C).
I'm interested re the fast RAM. Are the gains due to just frequency or bandwidth? Testing with one stick of RAM vs two should shed light on this.
Also, I wonder whether X99 gains from fast RAM given the much larger memory bandwidth available. In your X99 vs skylake video you showed higher gaming performance and I was wondering whether overclocking the cache (uncore) would help X99 given it runs at a lowly 3000MHz by default. I believe it is at least 4000MHz on Z170.
Overpriced quad-cores. No thanks Intel.
Name 187 FX chips are quad-core as well. Ryzen will be first AMD eight-core and stop this Intel crap.
lol fx 8*** series are first eight core from AMD.
UndyingGhost my i7 3770k overclocked to 4.2ghz has same score with 7700k . you buy i7 7700k for save some electric fee? 350usd can be paid for 100year about their enengy different cost . intel is fucking making jokes on customers
and then the 8700k came out right after this comment.
Love these reviews, so much knowledge is included in a video.
What on earth is going on with the frame-time graph for crysis 3?
What is your opinion on the msi z270 m5 mobo ? Is it good overall ? did you stumble upon some limitations or something like that ? Anything really even if it's nitpicking
I'd never buy an i5.
i7 for the win.
I wouldn't waste money on a damn i9 neither, if I am going to build a computer for multitasking/programming etc type work stuff aka multi threaded work, I'd buy the 1950x threadripper for 1000.
But as far as gaming goes... nothing beats the i7 7700k, not even Ryzen, and it's been months since it's release, still not competing with the 7700k in gaming, but it does destroy it in everything else... 8 cores... that's why, but core for core performance is the reason why intel wins for gaming.
can't believe how well my crusty old 3770K holds up these days.
Please do the extremely fast ram test with the i7 i am SOOOO STOKED
It's only $30 more than the 6700k here in the USA, so... I'll go for it
I just bought a 7700k and it’s juicy
Does memory bandwidth scale when running the games at 4K versus 1080p? That is what I would like to see.
Nice review thanks. Will I be OK If I put i7 7700K on a Z-170-A MOBO? or do I need to go to Z270 for max benefit?
Last year I made a pc it had a 6700k and it did the job. I sold that pc now I want a new one. Was thinking the 7700k, but by the look of it it's not worth the extra moolah. So what do I buy ? Another 6700k ? Or the 6800k six core ? For games like arma 3/ 4 when it's released. Squad, ark, battlegrounds etc. I plan on getting the 1080
Amp. I hear the 6800k is better for FPS but is not as good as the 6700k on single threads, i.e. Arma , any ideas what to get ?
Any plans for tests with 4000mhz ram? I know Techspot did some but I'd like to see what kind of results you get.
My 7700K BOX overclocked to 5Ghz 1.408v max temp Linx 82c. It can run benchmarks on 5.2Ghz.
upgrading from my 6700k to the 7700k reduced my temps and runs more stable then the 6700k. I always had a hard time getting my 6700k to run at reasonable temps @4.6
Excellent! Yes test with 4000+ Mhz RAM please :))
Review the new pentium g4560, it's the first pentium that supports hyper threading now (4 threads) just like an i3 and it only costs 70€ / usd. I'm wondering if the i3 6100 is obsolete now, since the pentium g4560 is pretty much just like the i3 6100 on paper and it costs way less (40€ / usd less). It could be the best budget cpu right now.
You could also add some new games to your benchmark like watch dogs 2, which is very cpu demanding and optimized very well and throw away AC unity which is one of the worst ports ever (I don't know why do you even have it in).
Great video, it is clearly a cpu performance review so it is ok, but what happens when we don't use a titan x overclocked?
Is it ok to par a 1060 with an i5 or we have a performance loss vs an i7? a 1070 needs an i7?
This sort of questions, i think that a video like that would be useful to a lot of people.
Interesting you show 2 dimms of DDR4 in dual channel in the picture earlier on, of your hardware. Are you running DDR4 at dual channel (2 x 8GB) or DDR4 at quad channel (4 x 4GB)???
7:10 i7 3770k 4.5GHz/2400MHz DDR4? Is that a mistake ddr4? it should be written ddr3?
i7 5775c is the king for gaming. Why won't you show it to people?
nobody bought Broadwell
I've a feeling that Broadwell lacks behind because of DDR3L and I have heard it isn't very overclockable.
It's very good and would likely blow away both Sky/Kabylake but it starts to lack behind because those two can get benefit of some fast DDR4 and nice overclocks. The performance per clock at least is very amazing.
If you can pair it with some CL10 2400MHz or better DDR3 RAM and OC up to 4,2-4,5GHz it would be a clear winner.
Cristiano Siqueira lol the 5775c is only useful in mini itx systems without a dedicated gpu because of the strong igpu. other than that its just a low clocked broadwell quad with ht.
Broadwell packs the L4 128MB "Crystal Well" Cache, that once it's main purpose it's serving the iGP of it. But once the iGP is disabled when you are using an external GPU, the L4 acts to support the CPU in many cases, some games are really benefiting from it, such as GTA V and other open world type of Games. It was one of the most expensive mainstream CPUs to make, and because of it's price tag, and Clock Speeds, it didn't took off as we initially thought.
No its not its a quad core rice burner
Hey Richard, could you please define faster memory? is it same timings and just faster frequency or do the timings get worse with the higher frequencys in your tests?
would be interesting to see if the increase of FPS would continue if you use higher than 3000mhz ddr4 ram, or it pins out at 3000mhz ..
My question with i5 6500+gtx 1060 does faster ram helps? or just waste of money if I get one?
About the 2133mem with the skylake. why not just run with the same 2400mhz mems? I mean my cheap h110 mini-tix asus mobo have up to 3000mhz xmp settings in the uefi bios.
Exactly . it wasn't apples to apples comparison
what about a SLI benchmark with haswell-e and broadwell-e please?
I'm still on an I7 950 (never overclocked). Is it worth upgrading to 7700k or maybe get the 6700k instead? Or wait for Ryzen and maybe some price drops from Intel?
I'm using two 27" ASUS 1440p monitors @144hz with an MSI GTX1080, but I only game on one monitor, while the wife watches Netflix or TV on the other one :)
MetallicRain you should wait for ryzen and then compare with intels current products performance wise and choose whats best for you
first build in 2013 was i5 4690k, 2017 is i7 7700k.
Need to know RAM speed comparison up until 4200mhz+, is RAM speed a bottleneck on modern games title?
Interesting to see the faster DDR4 making a fairly big difference. Could you test how the new 7700 (non k) works with the faster RAM vs the 7700K?
Can you do a Broadwell E and a Kaby/Skylake at the same clock speed with a Direct X12 optimized game? I want to see how much the extra cores matter.
Great video 👍
When you compare this with an overclock how much fps more do you get?
7:17 i7 3770k + ddr4, you're kidding???
would like to see some 1440p and 4k benchmarks.
I would love to see, what difference would the RAM freq and CPU OC do in 1440p and 4k.
Those who run expensive CPU and GPU and ram don't really play in 1080p so these tests are really irrelevant.
We need to see some real life gains in existing "real" systems and not the "best case scenario" ala "what difference ram frequency/cpu oc has in 800x600". That is not important at all.
The real question is, is 3600MHz memory worth investing in or are we gonna get the same performance with 3000MHz memory in 1440p ?
What gains do we get when OCing the cpu to 4.8G in 1440p?
We need tests for this mate!
Thank you
Just ordered a 7700k :D
If you want to reach high overclocks on Kaby Lake you should really consider delidding
True, but a lot of people are hitting thermal limits before hardware ones. Kaby Lake can take up to 1.4V safely and the TIM is pretty bad. Delidding can lower temperatures by up to 20C.
Was the 1060 used to test Witcher 3 a 6gb card or a 3gb card? Thanks.
7700k is the best gaming CPU. the only drawback i see is price. Its just 4C/8T which can clock really high. Intel should consider dropping its price to 250$ or below. Because this isn't really a workbench CPU.
Intel has been selling quad core cpu for almost a decade, I can't understand why its still priced so high.
what kind of video card is running with the core i7 7700k?
I will stay with mine 4690K thank you very much.
please could you make a comparison between the four i7 you showed in the video at 6:45 with stock clock at 2400 mhz ram speed?
What settings do you use in games when you benchmark? (The Witcher 3)
"Insane misuse of Titan Xp power"... all my tears 😢
so I'm planning to buy a new processor and consufed which one to buy from 7700k vs 6700k I've already got z170 mobo with updated bios which supports kaby lake but I don't find any real reason why to get i7 7700k if the gaming performance is same in both also in my country 7700k costs 50 usd more over 6700k
So is the 7700k 3.6ghz good for gaming? cuz Im gonna buy one soon
Glad I have quad channel 2667mhz ddr4 now. I wish I could oc it more but eh hit a wall. At least its close to 5300mhz dual channel ddr4.
Excellent review by far. I have always been loyal to AMD Processors but as they are putting up no fight against Intel I will change my rig to Intel.
I do a lot off video rendering now for my TH-cam Channel and play the occasional game such as Just Cause 3.
I am currently using a Sabertooth Board with a Amd FX 8320 Black Edition overclocked and a Sapphire OC RX470 and will go for a middle ranged LG1151 planar board thou the new DDR4 Ram is going to to add to the additional cost but as you stated how important the ram will be for the I7 and with the option of higher ram bandwidth and the hope of a price drop soon with DDR4 Ram I should be able to upgrade to a decent medium ranged rig.
I'm on the market for a video editing and 3D modeling laptop. would you recommend waiting a few months for i7-7700HQ laptops or would current i7-6700HQ suffice my needs?
I'm sure the 6700HQ would more than suffice
I've got a laptop that has the i7-6700HQ in it, it cuts though video editing when combined with a decent GPU (It defeats the PS4).