How We Removed our Catalina 22 from a boat trailer on land
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2019
- This video shows how we removed "Seanachai" our 1986 swing keel Catalina 22 from a boat trailer on land, using boat stands. It's not a "how to" video, but rather a "how we did it." At just under 13 minutes we show how we raised the boat above the trailer onto boat stands and systematically arranged the stands to pull the trailer out from under the boat. The actual process took 3 hours! With the trailer out of the way, we rolled in a keel cradle, which was built according to specifications by Rocco Dryfka in an article that appeared in Good Old Boat Magazine March/April 2017. With the keel cradle in place, we easily lowered the 550 lb. cast iron keel to inspect the pivot pin and cable wire.
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I am deeply impressed not only with the work done on the boat but also the production values for the videos. Ive been looking at trailer boats and your videos have caught my attention for the Catalina 22.
Thank you
Thanks so much, @jeffhamer633, kind comments such as yours encourage us to keep telling our stories. We just came back from trailering Seanachai about 1200 miles (round trip) for a 7 night cruise. We couldn't be happier with our C-22 decision.
Nice job, I didn't have boat stands so I ended up building block piles and used a floor jack and the trailer to get the job done. Guess I'll have to post a video sometime.
I'd like to see that done as I'm considering to do the same.
Fantastic tutorial , important to know.Can save alot of money for repair or upgrade.
Wow.. you just turned me into a subscriber! GREAT WORK
Thanks for this video. I will use your technique when I take my boat off the trailer this year. I also have an '86 C-22, same color scheme as yours, with the Irish name Saiorse! What a small world :)
Hello Vibrating Dolphin! It is indeed a small world. I applaud your choice for the name...sailing our boat always feels like "freedom," too! Best of luck on the maintenance projects.
Fantastic. Just bought this type and looking forward to keel hauling 😢🚣♂️🚣♂️🚣♂️🚣♂️🚣♂️🚣♂️
Thanks so much for stopping by. All the best to you!
Excellent video .. very helpful! Thanks!
Thanks for stopping by. All the best in your project!
What was good thanks for sharing about to tackle the same problem
Take you time and stay safe! All the best to you.
Impressive
I learned stuff. This is as fun as sailing. This must have been a while ago.
Trust me, Tommy Cheshire, sailing is more fun!
Thanks for sharing. I have a 1986 Catalina 22 Hull 13174 so I was very interested in your approach. Did you bottom paint the hull and keel? I would be interested in if and how you painted under the jack stands. Did you simply paint around them and then move them once the paint dried and wrapped up by painted the remaining spots? Mike
Hi Mikechro58, Sorry it too so long to reply, just noticed I failed to answer you. Yes, we simply painted around them and once the paint dried, painted the "spots". We did paint the hull and keel.
Excellent information, thanks! Did you buy the stands or rent them? Thanks for citing the article for cradle design... I just ordered the backissue, only $6.00
You're most welcome, Billder. We purchased a couple of stands second hand, and we borrowed three from another C-22 owner.
Outstanding methods. Where do I purchase the adjustable boat stands and are they expensive?
Hi Ben, We purchased ours used and "refurbished" from a Craig's List guy in North Carolina, about 8 years ago. They were $50 each then. I know you can buy them; new Brownell's run about $200 each.
👍..& the music was great.
Thanks for stopping by...so glad you liked the music!
Cool video. Is that considered a “drop keel?”
Hello Robert Smith, Jr. Thanks for stopping by. It's called a "swing keel". But you're right...it does "drop down" from the keel trunk.
Really great video. Lost count of the number of stands used - how did you work out where to position the stands? Are there hard points or did you just use common sense? Thanks again!
The concerns are keeping the boat weight balanced and the boat relatively level. It took some trial an error to get the stands positioned between the cross bars and the axel. It's common sense, but you know that's not as common as it used to be ; )
the jack stands MUST !!! be chained together . because they can slide out .... do not risk your life !!!
where did you get the stands? have a link?
We purchased three from a private seller on Craigslist and a friend let us borrow some of theirs. I believe they are Brownell stands...some refurbished. Here's a listing from eBay...I have no affiliation with the seller www.ebay.com/p/1282609205
What size stands are those?
They have a base about 20 inches square, 30 inch height collapsed with about a 15 inch rise. Hope that makes sense ; )
Just an FYI those stands aren't really designed to hold the weight of a boat more or less for stability while a boat rests on its keel. This is why boat yards block up the keel. Just don't wana see you get crushed. Safety first
An interesting point, so I took a few minutes and looked into it. The stands appear to be SKU 260-1483, which are rated for "a safe working load" of 20,000# each, which means the "load to fail" is likely much more. The boat weighs about 2300# and while I didn’t count the number of stands holding it up, if there are four, then the stands would be holding 2300#, but with a combined rating of 80,000#, giving a "safe working load" safety factor of 34.7, with an ultimate safety factor of much more. Seems plenty safe for even a boat weighing many times that, although careful placement (at bulkheads and for equal load sharing) and securing P&S pairs against outboard athwartships movement with the usual chains would become increasingly important.
@@122436Joe while I am aware of what the stands are rated. That rating applies to when the stand is in its fully compressed form. Not when the jack screw is fully extended. Just like the jack stand for your car is more prone to failure at its top range. Doesn't mean it wasn't rated for the job use using it at tbe the side load forces are to great to be working under a load. If you're comfortable putting your life in thr hands of those stands go for it. But I've seen when safe working loads fail and I personally wouldn't trust it.
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Here we have a couple of smart, active, innovative, accomplished people who are not just dreamers or talkers, but are doers. And they are not just doers, but are obviously experienced and competent, and have also have taken the time and effort to generously share valuable, detailed information with the world about significant things they have actually accomplished. A rare and welcome combination in a world increasingly dominated by vanity, selfishness, and a disgustingly destructive culture of narcissism.
I myself own a Catalina 22, but also have several other boats, up to a 41' sailboat, am an experienced blue water sailor, and have been actively sailing, building, restoring, buying and selling boats for about 45 years. I have done virtually all my own work on boats, vehicles, real estate, etc, all that time, and have recently started on an airplane project. I was able to learn several valuable tips from the videos these folks have so competently and graciously made and shared, and I am grateful for them. They so obviously know what they are doing.
Enter you:
BRIAN MURPHY: "...those stands aren't really designed to hold the weight of a boat more or less for stability while a boat rests on its keel."
MANUFACTURER: "...safety is key. The Keel Stand...Supports...your keel..."
BRIAN MURPHY: "This is why boat yards block up the keel."
MANUFACTURER: "Gone are the days of clunky wooden blocks strewn all over your shipyards..."
I certainly do agree with you that every individual should decide for himself what the risks are, based on their own understanding of any given situation.
But the bigger picture here may be well illustrated by the gist of Teddy Roosevelt's famous speech, The Man In The Arena (a good article on this is at mentalfloss). A couple excerpts:
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena...and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."
It is said that fortune favors the bold, but I guess more specifically, fortune favors the _competently_ bold.
@@122436Joe your life your choice. But people should understand the risks of putting yourself under a load. Accidents happen things break. I'm glad you have not suffered anything and I hope you can continue to keep on doing all your own repairs just remember just because the man that makes the video is a competent diyer does not mean fhe man following his videos is. So let's just agree to disagree
@@brianluck84
I see. Thanks for your measured and reasonable reply. We may agree on more than it seems.
I do agree with you that average people should not just blindly imitate this couple, who through their competence, teamwork and maybe a little judicial video editing, make this job look easier to do safely than it really is. But I also guess that most people, in general, know enough to not get seriously injured and can figure stuff like this out if they decide to do it. There will always be ppl who get in over their head, make bad choices and suffer the consequences. Been there, done that, in spades.
It seems I may have misjudged you, even if you did lead with the false assertion that the jack stands were not rated for the weight, then seemed to double down when presented with facts and reason.
You and I are apparently each somewhat headstrong in our own way, but we seem to share an honest concern for good people and their safety. You seemed to me to come out unreasonably critical of the couple fixing their boat, when you were actually just concerned for the safety of people in general, but represented that in what I see as a flawed manner. Whereas I was more concerned that you seemed to be critical of the ppl who made the video. Not that they need my help, I understand, but just that I'm aggressively anti-bully. Not in a "woke" or "social justice" way, LOL, but in an anti-predator, anti-thug, "civil society", moral integrity way. I'm maybe more sheepdog than sheep. Sometimes chasing and fighting wolves can seem like duty, sometimes like sport.
One way to notice a bully is that they often find unfair ways to criticize good, accomplished people, even if they have to make stuff up as they go (i.e. saying the jack stands weren’t rated correctly). Nothing triggers a narcissistic bully into predatory action like confidence, competence, inner joy and satisfaction in successful people just doing their thing well, and enjoying it. Narcissistic bullies hate themselves and so are jealous of all who seem successful, confident or joyful. Unfortunate, yes. But its not gonna be my or anyone else's problem if I can do anything about it.
I became 'alerted' when you seemed unreasonably critical of the couple, who obviously know what they are doing, and I replied in a way designed to progressively bait you and reveal if you were actually a bully. Bullies mostly hate facts and reason, in fact they hate most things good and so can be loads of fun to bait.
I guess you didn’t mean to be critical of the folks fixing their boat and I've edited my previous post accordingly.
Love people. Be healthy. Be careful. Be safe. Enjoy life.
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More on narcissism (my standard cut-n-paste lately): This was not intuitive to me--I had to consciously seek out info and learn it over a period of years to deal with a toxic family member. If interested, I now recommend the video "What Triggers Narcissists?" by "The Royal We". Then go to the TH-cam channel called DoctorRamani and watch her playlist, 30 DAYS OF NARCISSISM, for 30, ~5 minute videos, a comprehensive intro to understanding narcissism and how many ways it is toxic to ppl--being around them actually causes diagnosisable psychological problems like trauma-bonding, etc. Dr. Ramani is excellent. Learning about this allowed me to see how several ppl in my life (those I couldn’t just avoid) I thought just needed patience and yet one more "second chance," were actually just using me as their "supply" over the years and how they will never change (why would they, they're already perfect, right?). Its toxic to give in to them, but there are many ways to deal with them in a healthy way, but it takes study and discipline and a willingness to break old perverse-yet-familiar habits.
Seems like a monkey s*** way of doing things. If you live near the ocean there must be a crane around the water you can pick it up off one trailer and put it on the other and the matter of minutes. This seems crazy.
LOL John Chambers! You're right it is quite a dance to pull this off! And if money were no object, we would LOVE to have it hauled out. Our local service for haul out, setting on stands, and daily DIY yard charges (for 31 days) would have been nearly $2500! And if we didn't do it ourselves, the additional charges for cleaning, sanding & 2 coats of paint would be another $750 plus the cost of paint. But, every time we face this project, we sure do think about a haul out! Just need that winning lottery ticket, I guess.
You obviously don't have a boat. Lol