Leica Q2 VS Fuji X100V - 5 Months Later (+ Sample Images)
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- In todays video I talk about my experience using the Leica Q2 as a former Fuji X100V shooter. The video got a bit long and I got a slightly carried away going into some of the points that viewers have made in the comment section of my previous comparison video, so if you are only here for the actual comparison/review, feel free to use the timestamps below.
The video also has a bit of a negative tone to it because I am putting an emphasis on the things I don't like about the Leica Q2 but keep in mind that this is my favorite camera of all times and that I have no regrets about my purchase whatsoever. I am just trying to be honest about my experience using this camera - and especially the bad ones - so that others that might be interested in buying it know what they are getting into and don't have any buyers remorse.
Lastly, this is obviously not a technical review. This is just opinion after using both cameras over a long(ish) period of time.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:37 Conclusion (Part 1, objective statement)
04:40 addressing comments of my previous comparison
04:45 Comments regarding Features I did not mention
05:20 Comments regarding the price difference: Are they even comparable and is the Leica Q2 "worth it"?
08:30 Comments regarding me shooting JPEG only and the "Leica Look"
12:18 Start of the Experience/Review/Comparison Part
12:33 The Viewfinder
14:14 Overall Useability (button layout etc)
15:10 Low Light Performance
15:55 Built Quality, Weather Resistance and Reliability
16:55 Accessories and Leicas Pricing
17:25 Overall Image Quality
18:55 Fun Factor / Cool Factor
19:47 Conclusion (Part 2, subjective statement)
21:21 Whats coming next
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Leica recently released a new Firmware (4.0) for the Q2 which actually fixed or improved many of the "issues" with the Q2 that I mentioned in this video (JPEGs, Dynamic Range, Metering, Video Codecs and more). Check out my new video about the Firmware Update here - th-cam.com/video/WqI6Q-qLknw/w-d-xo.html
Well presented comparison and food for thought. Some very nice pics as well. Thank you.
I own a Q2M and a X100V. Those do not "compete" against each other. But I radically disagree with your conclusion that Fuji files "fall apart" that easily.
I use SOOC Fuji jpegs for backgrounds and screensavers on my 27", and they look perfect. I have printed some to A2 format and they look perfect as well. They are solid.
The whole film simulations/recipes paradigm is a fantastic and intuitive way to generate differentiated series of pictures, with recognisable consistency within the series. I visited Lisbon last week with the X100v as my only camera and used a single recipe for the whole trip. I am delighted by the resulting series. The memories I will keep of that trip will be "coloured" by those pictures. They are how I will remember Lisbon. Such consistency of rendering is harder to achieve with other systems, even if you apply identical presets to raw files in LR. The fact that you get that sooc is a considerable time saving bonus. I also do not agree that there is a contradiction between "instagram" pics and "family souvenirs" pics, on the contrary.
No doubt the standard Q2 has the "cropability" advantage of much higher resolution, which, combined with a 28mm lens, increases flexibility, but the X100V and other current generation Fujifilm cameras provide more than enough quality for large prints and the largest screens.
He is right. fuji jpeg output looks nice on its own lcd and phone screen, but when looking it on computer lcd, they really looks plasticky and artificial, particularly on busy foliage or low light background. Same for all fuji x series camera. I own fuji xt3 , xt4, x100v, their sooc jpeg have same characteristics
@@kailimedia funny how we can experience things so differently. An important thing to do with Fuji in-camera settings is to permanently cancel all noise reduction (put NR at -4), as NR can induce the "plasticky" rendering you mention, on skin tones in particular. I prefer a little "grain" (noise) to any smudge. If you really want to reduce "grain", better to do so in PP on the raw file. Like you probably, I have experience with high end cameras from different brands (APS-C and FF) but I reach the opposite conclusion: for me, Fujifilm provides the best out of camera jpeg results on the market today. Again, important to permanently set NR at -4 for portraits and landscapes. Best wishes!
@@kailimedia sorry, not right.
@@marc-artwork I have to insist he is absolutely right. Sorry for not hype into fuji brand
@@kailimedia i dont have a fuji or any hype for any brand... i insist.
Great video. One of my favorites so far. And I think I’ve been here pretty much since day one. Great job ❤️
That's probably the most honest review of the Q2 I've seen and it was great.
I had a feeling you were unsure when you first purchased it but like all good things, they're worth waiting for / persevering with and it's definitely paid off the photos look great and it's so damn cool. Cheers from the UK 👍🏻
Thank you so much Tobis for this real review without the hype. You give so much detail about the actual usability of the cameras that most other youtube people never mention, particularly the frustrations of white balance, exposure, what the display and evf shows compared to the resulting file and the editing process afterwards. Brilliant! 5 STARS
You have convinced me that I should keep enjoying my Fuji X100V and forget about ever owning a Leica. Not because of the price but because of the performance and features.
I understand your point, but after watch the video and after owning the X100v for a year a have the oposite feeling and I have the same feeling of...the end of the video: the punch of the pictures, and the sensation of "the photos are nice but...". Probably if they weren't so expensive, we don't have this dilema...
Keep ur x100v and save money, it is amazing camera
Very pleasant and well-stated presentation. You are very fair in both praise and criticism of both cameras and putting the question of performance vs. cost into the proper individually-determined value it is. Nice photos too!
I like the honest review. However, Fuji RAW files are solid. Just bought a Q2 after nearly 6 years of using my Fuji X100F for all my travel and adventure work. There aren't day and night differences, but just enough to justify the purchase. Props to both cameras, and thank you for your review.
normally I don't like comparison videos... but I follow u since the beginning and cuz I just bought a 100v I went back to your channel to see this video... and I have to tell u this is an amazing\honest comparison
eview... really. All the best form Italy!
I've been a photographer for over 35 years now, I am 49 this year and feel I am at a stage where I deserve the best for my needs, Street Photography with the odd landscape or portraits. I think the Leica 'look' of Black and White is amazing and hard to replicate with other cameras.
The Q2 Monochrom is amazing. Most B&W from digital looks sharper.
Treat yourself buddy, you deserve it.
Canon R5
Appreciate your honest and totally sensible review. Well done!
thanks for your view on these cameras. i really appreciate the honesty. it is refreshing.
This is a video I needed to watch. Thank you for such a good comparison..
Love your review and point of view!! I was a long time Sony user. Owning A7SIII and a7IV. And just tried fuji xe4 for photography and just the experience and results
Nice video comparison thanks! Another good point that you missed i think is the tilting screen on the X100V vs the fixed screen on the Q2. Tilting screen gives you more choices of shooting angles and allows you to be even more creative. Looks like the new Q3 will have a tilting screen and I think this implementation alone will make it even more successful.
Q3? Where do you see a Q3?
Well done, thanks for putting this together, it was very helpful!
I’ve also had both cameras (now only the Q2), and I agree with everything you’ve said. Once you recognize how bad the white balance is and can fix it, things start looking much better. I wish the high iso performance was better, but that’s what you get with a high megapixel sensor unfortunately. Still the best camera I’ve ever had. Always enjoy shooting with it.
Canon R5
An excellent review - well balanced & objective - thanks
Fantastic review, thank you so much!
Thank you for this review, I’ve been shooting for over 40 years and tried many many cameras including the full gamut of Canon, then Fuji and now Sony, and I have to admit that the Q2 is the most fun camera I’ve had the pleasure to use, it’s fun to use and damn those files are awesome, thank you for your honest opinion, great work
Thanks for watching and I absolutely agree in regards to the Q2. I still love my Fuji cameras but the Leica is special in the way that it works and feels.
Canon R5
Thank l you for your Frank and honest review! Way to not fanboy it up and objectively highlight the faults of
Both cameras while still keeping the end use positive.
Very useful info and well presented - thanks!
the X100V in silver looks so much better though, especially with a brown leather case
I appreciate the thoughtfulness and thoroughness which went into this review. By the way, I believe you're the second or third Fuji shooter I've seen on youtube with a Sinn strapped to his wrist. My wife and I over here in Korea shoot Fuji (beginners with an xt4). Coincidentally, whenever she wears one of my watches, she almost always picks one of my Sinns over one of the more well known and expensive swiss watches or Grand Seiko. I dunno, perhaps that's not so unusual in Germany, but I thought it was curious since Sinn isn't well known here in Korea, America where I'm from, or in general internationally outside of watch enthusiast circles. Anecdotal, but sort of feels like there's some curious correlation there. Anyway, look forward to more of your thoughtful videos in the future.
Yes. It's like the Milus watches. A rather specialist taste. 😉
I'm with you on this... I've gone back and forth between the x100v and the Q2, I sold my Q2 at one point because it's so expensive and seemed like a waste of money... But I bought another one lol, there is something magic about it and the images it takes. I find that if I under expose a little bit the JPGs have a crispier more moody and saturated look that I like straight out of camera. But at the end of the day, I edit the DNGs and am always happy with what I get.
Very nice comparison. Thank you!
Thank you for saving me thousands. I have barely seen half of your video and already know enough to say that I will not be "switching" from my beloved X100V. To me the "gains" of the Q2 are not worth what I'll be losing from not having the X100V. [And that's without a great consideration on the money but almost all on the features. Add in their respective prices and it is a clear no brainer for what I need and enjoy - Fuji all the way ;-]
You're welcome! ;)
I am debating between Leica QP and Sony RX1r II as a gift for my husband who already has Fuji X100V and loves it. Thank you so much for your very helpful video!
Thanks for the video. Nice watch btw! :)
This was a brilliant video, really loved how objective you are, not all gushing positivity but not unfairly negative either.
Although that being said I'm not sure why I watched this video as I'm both broke and utterly clueless about the technical aspects.
I just bought a Leica x1 for 450 USD in pretty much brand new condition. I've been using it for a few months and although I'm completely clueless about photography I just love the quality of the pictures it's giving me for my street photos here in HK, especially in B & W.
I agree with you. I definitely don't enjoy spending time editing in lightroom. I would like to own an x100v but it is still a bit pricey for me. I love that the camera has picture profiles that look amazing straight out of the camera. Thank you for this review. It was very helpful
I haven't owned too many cameras, none of them Leica due to prices, but without a doubt the X100V is my favorite. Gets me motivated to take photos in any situation, and the weather sealing helps a lot in keep it going during rainy days.
you could also get a used X100F or so for half the price
Das war wirklich eine tolle Zusammenfassung. Hab ein richtiges Gefühl bekommen, was mich mit der Q2 erwarten würde. 👍
An excellent video which helped me put my own views into perspective.
Several years ago I sold my X-Pro2 & purchased a used Q, and was initially very disappointed. I couldn't afford 3 times the cost of a new Leica Q2, over an X100V.
As mainly a JPEG shooter with 10 years experience with the Fuji X system cameras, I was used to manipulating the image "in camera", rather than post production.
However I had grown to believe, the Fuji images first viewed on the camera screen & in the viewfinder - flattered to receive, hence the change to the Leica Q - where I very soon found out the opposite to be true.
Yes there are inconsistencies in the white balance & the auto focus at times left a lot to be desired, but the overall quality of the full frame images were better (after all, Fuji images required post production attention before printing), and the excellent manual focus of the big 28mm/F1.7, overcomes any focussing difficulties. I just so loved the easy intuitive way the Q works & it's such a pleasure to use - it goes everywhere with me.
I've always loved the wider angle perspective, and even 24meg pixels allows for some 35mm image cropping in camera
Leica Grips & Batteries may be expensive, but 1/3rd party options are available. However I found the grip problem was resolved by the purchase of a used Leica 1/2 case, for less for not very much.
Would I buy a new Leica Q3, possibly, but not for another 5 years - when I might be able to afford a good second hand example.
In the meantime I'm glad I made the choice - I've even become quite adept at changing the white balance in camera when the situation requires!
Great video, Tobias! My Leica Q2 the Ricoh GR3... Same 28mm focal length, better portability and a lot of fun!
Thank you for the video. Just one note, info that I got from a great Printer that worked in the field back in the days: post processing was as important as shooting.
I was a Fujifilm user for 5 years. XT2, XT3, XH1 and X100F. I transitioned to Full Frame via Canon EOS R with RF 15-35, 50, 85 glass. Last year I transitioned to Leica Q2, SL2 with 24-70 and M10 with a 50 lux. I can say that the Leica system has been my favorite so far. Q2 is the perfect walk around/family camera. I pair it with the M10 and 50 lux for a wonderful 28/50 combo. The SL2 I use for work. Content creation and portraits. I will say while I truly enjoy the Leica experience which includes the shooting experience, the tactile experience (build quality and ergonomics) and the amazing raw files, I sometimes miss the "fun" factor of Fujifilm and being able to switch film simulations on the go. That is where Fujifilm really shines... Their film simulations and less need for post processing because you're happy to just shoot jpeg. It's not a work camera but something to simply document life. It does that amazingly. APS-C falls short for me in low light shooting and shallow depth of field but there is a true charm to Fujifilm (especially the X100 line) that continues to tempt me. Maybe I'll come back for the next iteration when they include OIS or IBIS because I truly find OIS very helpful with the Q2.
I definitely looked at both of these cameras. Based on my needs the 28mm lens on the Leica was much more of a differentiator. I currently have a 28-70 lens on my DSLR and I’m constantly shooting at 28. The other deciding factor is that I shoot at night a lot so the full frame sensor is going to give me better low light capabilities. For my needs, the extra costs for the Q2 was justified and I’ve never regretted it.
Lol bias much? The x100v performs miles better than the Q2. The only thing you get from the Q2 is shallower dof. Just say you bought it for the red dot.
@@mandingo9471 just say you're jealous already. Lol.
@@mandingo9471 you know whats cringe? Slapping a Gucci Purse off of someone rich and telling them a shopping bag serves the same purpose. Also telling someone with a ferrari that a honda civic is more practical... I'm sure you get the analogy for what you're doing. Maybe he just could afford to spend an extra $2000 for the Brand name, 100 pixel full frame and 28 mm and different color science of Leica?.. besides you need more self awareness and humility. Isn't it an oxymoron to call someone biased than saying your camera is miles better and ignoring all the other differences and just naming one feature as little as a "red dot"?
@@mandingo9471 bro sounds so bitter
hahahahaha
@@mandingo9471 actually?
You nailed it on your comment about gratification when you look at the image immediately after shooting. Could you make a video on your favourite Fuji film simulations.
Thank you, Tobias. This kind of honesty can only come from someone who uses these things and pays them with their own hard-earned cash. Interesting point about „Fuji colours“. Coming from a FF DSLR, I was pleasantly surprised by the SOOC photos from Fuji and got into the whole film recipes thing - until my wife said after a vacation: “our holiday pictures look like instagram, not like family pictures.” Due to RAW, I could “save” them in Lightroom. I think this gets overlooked a lot. Fuji can look incredibly post-processed - a no-go for documentation, I think.
That being said: the “raw” colour science baked into the raw files is still a great basis for raw development - which I returned to after my JPEG “adventures”.
After I changed from Fujifilm XT3 & X100V to Canon mirrorless R6, I am wowed by the beautiful Canon colour science, the much faster and reliable autofocus, the much better raw file quality and much better high ISO performance. It's really a different league game. If you don't need serious work delivery and only use it for casual hobby and outings, Fujifilm X100V is a good to go due to its lightweight.
@@cheekien1981 great points there. I still stand by it: a fullframe dslr/mirrorless produces better pictures in just about any situation. The Fuji just happens to be with me more often than any camera I have ever owned. Compromises.
Hi Tobias, great video and thanks for your effort! The Q2 is currently out of my budget however I am doubting between the X100V and the D-Lux 7. Do you have any experience with that as well and what was your opinion?
Pim
I got con in the past too, many reviewers FOCUS on the positive aspects of the camera and hence give glowing reviews, and play down, neglect or even ignore(due to ignorance) the negatives.
I like to own one too but cannot justify it even though I can afford it. Overall good review.
Great video and looking forward to more thanks
Fantastic, informative review.
Appreciate the honesty!
Thanks for the vid. I’m a Fuji die hard, but I am personally saving for the Leica Q2 Monochrom.
Excellent video. Thank you!
I had an X-100S for quite a while - took it with me to London and Paris and carried it with me everywhere at home (USA). It's a great camera! The various film simulations are very fun, and the image quality is excellent. Wayyyy better than a phone (even my 12 Pro). If I'm spending money on travelling, I'd like to have high quality pics instead of iphone ones when I get home!
Later I tried a Q, and the image quality is just stellar. The difference is really noticeable a 27" 5K retina display. And, no more worrying about which film sim to use while I'm out and about (even tho they are fun). I just shoot, and do quick edits in Lightroom - the RAW files don't need much. The image stabilization is great. I have a Q2 now, which I've also taken with me to Europe, and it's even better than the original in all the right ways.
It's weather sealed, 47MP (even using the 35mm crop it's still 30MP), image stabilized for my night and indoor pics... and the Q2 connects to my phone for location tagging which the Q didn't. Built like a tank but still not too heavy. It's the perfect travel cam.
That said, I still recommend the Fujifilm X-100 series to my friends as a great travel camera, unless the person has $6K to spare. $6K _is_ a lot of money, and the X-100 is a really good alternative for an awful lot less. But if you can scrape up the cash, I have to say the Leica Q2 earns it.
By the way, the recent firmware update to V4 is excellent. The GPS connection to my phone is rock solid now, and the other little tweaks are useful improvements.
Hello from Athens . Beside what you have said in your comparison, I wish to see a new future and yet a better version of the already excellent X100V - but without any change in its size, style & design !
Thank you for video - really helpful.
Thanks for the great review
Yes, it’s a good honest review. It come on, you can get batteries and thumb supports for a fraction of the cost.
I also have issues with people complaining about the Leica AF. Yeah it’s not the bet out there, but then people raving about the M10/11. They don’t have AF, so just use the Q in manual. Ok so it doesn’t have rangefinder, but focus peaking works great.
Both cameras are great. I’ve owned and used an X100T and a Q (not the 2). I compared both in Capture One and the Q was clearly better in my opinion. Mostly I think because of the amazing attached lens.
Overall I took better and more photos with the Fuji as the 35mm aspect suited my style better than the wider 28.
I ended up selling both. Having seen the colour and detail in the Q images I couldn’t buy an X100V. If Leica offered a Q with 35 I would be first in line. I’m not interested in cropping the Q2 28mm.
Great review thanks !
Solid review. “Here’s what I see and experienced. This is my view. Now, make up your own mind.”
Without anything other than your video here, I’d posit that the difference you’re seeing in IQ between the two cameras has to do, to some degree, with RAW v JPEG. JPEG to me is like eating someone else’s cooking. RAW is where you’re making the meal from scratch. When it comes to my images, I want to determine, from start to finish, the final result and not rely on some tech in a lab coat making those decisions for me. But I’m old and have been doing photography for 50+ years.
Lastly, I’d take a bit of issue with your statement that back in the day, photographers didn’t fuss with their negatives much. Many photographers fussed extensively with every single aspect of making a photograph. Camera, lens, film choice, exposure method, processing, printing and presentation were all chosen carefully and offered a great deal of flexibility. Each decision, every choice of material used, and how those materials were used, had an impact on the final product. It was extremely hands on.
Other than that, solid job on the comparison. And I agree - the ultimate decision maker has to be the photograph you end up with. All else is manageable.
Nice video Tobis…I totally agree with you. I have both cameras and while the Fuji is a great camera, the Q2 is the one I pick! There is that Leica quality/feel factor that you cannot beat…Thanks for sharing, be safe.. Cheers..
Nice comparison video. I shoot with the Fujifilm xt2 and I am curious about your Fuji presets setup. Do you have a video or blog about that topic? greatings from the Netherlands
Great video. I think people should ask themselves what are they taking pictures for? I used to do wedding and portrait work when it was just film. The key word in that sentence is “Work”. The fact that I was selling my pictures meant that my quality had to be better than everyone else’s . Unfortunately this was also supported by the expense of my equipment, RB67 and lenses plus two 35mm cameras and lenses. Now that I take pictures for enjoyment I just don’t warrant the high end expenditure. Having a Leica around my neck would be nice but pointless. A little bit like owning a Lamborghini.
Interesting you mention about the issues switching on the Fuji. I have the same issue with the XT-4. Sometimes when switching it on it doesn't switch on, black screen and frozen. Actually happens more frequently than id expect
My xs10 has the same problem. I need to take out the battery to fix it. My x100v do not have this problem.
Than something is not ok with your camera? Which firmware do you have installed? Firmware 1.40 should fix this issue.
Same with my X100F. I need to turn off few times to turn on the camera.
Thank you for your honesty!
Thanks for the video, I found it useful. Does the Leica have a fixed lens ?
A quick question, do you think that the Leica would survive being stuffed in a rucksack when snowboarding or mountain biking?
I currently use my X100V which has proved robust, but I worry with the optical stabiliser in the Leica 28mm lens.
I agree about the X100V, it hasn’t been for me, I have a Leica SL which I use with adapted Leica M lenses which is a wonderful experience with great results, but it’s quite big.
Thank you for your critical but subjective comparison between the Leica Q2 and the Fuji x100v. I own a Q2 and a x100T and have had similar experiences with the two cameras.
Great review! I have tried both. They are quite different. The Fuji is perhaps the best small carry camera there is excluding the latest iPhone pro plus models. The Leica lens is in a completely different league but if you are even considering spending this much on the Leica you shd perhaps go the full way and either buy a used M with 35mm or 50mm lens or spend much less on a used Fuji GFX50R and the 50mm med format pancake lens. I am so happy I did the latter. Quality is in a different league.
best small carry? How about the GR3
@@deejaypilefor those who want the viewfinder and more control, yeah. GRiii is brilliant though. Look and feel, including color, of the Fuji wins over Ricoh for me.
I have owned both cameras. First the fuji, then the leica. I can only completely subscribe to this video, especially on the rendering of the photos first on the device then on the computer. I specify that I no longer make Jpeg but Raw reworked on Capture One for the Fuji and Lightroom for the Leica. The rendering of the Leica is truly incomparable.
Fuji's film simulations have never seemed really interesting to me, the "standard" rendering being for me much better. Only advantage of the Fuji, its really small size, for the rest it is to compare a good hamburger with a meal in a starred restaurant..
But of course everything has a price....
Super video. Like you I have never been paid to shoot and refused any offer preferring to keep total freedom in what I do. Also... regarding JPEG vs Raw I can say that I have never shot a RAW file ever finding that JPEG is fine for me being somewhat careful in the settings before shooting given light conditions. Photography is simply about subject, composition and light and knowing how to get the best using the camera in your hand. I'm glad you mentioned cost as there are so many people who think that anyone can just buy whatever they want. I would love to at least try a Q2 but given my own finances I use a baby Leica being the D-Lux 7 which at least uses a Leica lens, a Leica style and some opportunity to join some Leica groups even if... Anyway... thanks again for the video.
Both are great cameras. But as just a hobbyist .. i recently bought x100v and boy.. i love this camera so much that i take it to work everyday and shoot anything i fancy on the street while walking to the train station from and to the office… great size and also a really beautiful camera to my eyes
A far more interesting comparison would be Fuji X100V - Leica CL with 23mm f2. Both APS-C and same focal length. Leica CL does not have a fixed lens which in my opinion is such a big advantage.
I suppose the Q2 like the CL has 'film styles' to chose (i.e. standard, vivid, etc.). I changed the standard one by reducing contrast to low and the JPGs I get out of the CL now are great. Auto white balance is often not the best choice, but set to 'daylight' I never encountered issues.
To judge the exposure better, you should not rely on the EVF alone, but use the live histogram.
Sounds like you need to try a PEntax or GRIII for image quality and reliability. Nice honest video. The Leica is now deleted from my list, but 35mm f2 not so sure. Rather buy the limited 31mm 1.8 for my k1. Yes I know it’s huge. But it’s built like a tank and unbeatable for Astro.
Hey Tobias, what brand is the leather strap for the Leica, looks really nice!
Thank you for the brutally honest review. I to do not shoot for money and I too like to avoid post, so as a chronic JPEGer I agree with your views and am going to avoid spending for the Q. There is a strong desire to try Leica but the tech is not there.
Hai tobis, thank you for your review, do you have a tips for white balance? Are you used a kelvin? Thank you
I think this the best review of these cameras. Interesting that it was compiled by a man who does not claim to be a pro either… well done Tobis!
At 16:00 mark - what is your roll top bag you're using?? I love it.
Great video btw!
Hey Tobi! Your comment is spot on. Having owned both cameras that’s basically the only conclusion to come to. At the end of the day the camera should not get in your way of your creative process. I enjoyed the Fuji but I felt limited being stuck to the JPG simulations and as you mentioned if you push the files too far they just start falling apart. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a fun camera and that’s what photography should be all about. If you can afford it I would keep both. They are both great in their own way. Still it’s always craft over gear. The camera doesn’t matter so much at the end of the day. Maybe you’re taking a very German approach there…
Felt limited being stuck with JPG similations? Like, how??? Did you delete that part of menu where you choose to shoot RAW ?
@@kubowich Exactly. JPG’s and film simulations are fine, comparing the RAWs the Fuji just can’t hold a candle to the Leica. Resolution, dynamic range, colours, noise…are way inferior on the Fuji. 🤷♂️ As Tobi said, if you are a JPG Shooter you might consider the Fuji, if you are into editing your RAWs go with the Leica. The files are so much more tweakable.
@@andyjones5192 not just that Leica files are more tweakable…they also require much less work. I personally NEVER do any color grading on my M10 and Q2, while on x100V it’s a must so that you have an image that looks so-so. And yet still those fuji color somehow suck.
Nice video without biases
I don’t have a Q2 nor a 100-V, but bought a 100F which i still have. The F is a nice camera but the lens was too soft on the sides and the results at high ISO were unusable. So I decided to by the Q. (1). It felt crazy because of the price, but it is worth every penny. The Q doesn’t have any of the defects of the Fuji, and the color is so much better. I won’t miss the magentas. I also prefer the depth of field, the detail and the dynamic range. Said that, if you don’t use a camera professionally, one can live with the Fuji at 25% of the price and still feel happy.
Agreed with everything you said and I don't think you are missing out on much if anything by sticking to the previous generation. Might even work in your favour in terms of low light performance in regards to the Leica Q. Good stuff!
I'm so much with you; I don't really enjoy the process of photo editing. I came to that conclusion only after putting a decades' worth of images into LR. Now I'm mostly shooting jpegs. While I don't plan on investing in a Leica I'm upgrading my X100S to a V when it finally becomes available. With all of that in mind; do you still use LR as "home" for your work? Or can you think of a better solution for organizing, cataloging and sharing, without the burden of an involved editing workflow?
2 months ago I sold my M10 to fund a Q2 Reporter because I felt that at this time it suits my needs better (more family time, newborn baby, less street photography etc…). It’s a wonderful camera, yes…but last week I had to buy a new M10-P because nothing replaces the M. I missed it. And now I can honestly say, I regret a bit buying the Q2…M will always be the holy grail of Leica and photography in general.
yeah but then you have to walk around with multiple lenses if you want macro or you cant crop...
@@ians9390 Q2 macro is not macro anyway….it is a gimmick. Cropping is a gimmick. What is not a gimmick though, are 95mb files to store and process. Not too much fun.
I sold the Q2 in the end and got me a Summilux 35 FLE…I always carry just 1 or 2 lenses max.
@@kubowich Ok the cropping is a gimmick, but the macro is just as macro as a macro adapter on an m10
@@ians9390 no, actually adapters (extension rings or Elpro 52, or even 90mm Macro-Elmar have real macro magnification ratios….Q2 macro is even less macro than Fuji X100V. It’s just a close-up photoraphy, and not even close enough.
@@kubowich I’ll take your word since you had the camera, but I’ve seen some really nice macro shots on TH-cam coming out of the q2
Hey men nice review. You know i like your rucksack the green bag which you sre carrying. Could you please share which bag it is?
Thank you
Very good. Explaining a complicated subjective subject.
Great review, but unless I missed it, you left out one of the best features of the Q2. The camera allows you to perform 'in-camera' crops, (35mm, 50mm and 75mm) albeit at a lower resolution, which for me, as a travel camera, mitigates the need to carry a larger interchangeable lens body and a few lenses.
Wow, thanks as imo that is HUGE
maybe Leica should listen to you and upgrade their "instant gratification" quality screen display, that will be a perfect camera...lol...seriously, i would consider buying it then. Great and honest review by the way, cheers from New Zealand...
Do not underestimate postprocessing on analog film, especially if you develop on paper there are tons of things to do ;)
Thank you for the objective review. TH-cam is full of overhyped review videos that do a disservice to potential buyers. The big problem for me is the size of this camera. It's not completely conspicuous and cannot be thrown in any bag.
I'm considering getting the ghost version of Q2 but can't make up my mind since it is a quite big investment especially for someone who doesn't have that much time to just go out and shoot anymore. On the other hand, X100V is simply nowhere to be found. There was one day when I saw a couple being available on Amazon sold by a small dealer but day 3 they were all sold out again. And that is when it is already priced with not an inconsiderable mark up.
This video is very informative but for someone who is very dependent on just how things look and see if the images are of the styles to my taste, is it possible for you to make a video just simply giving comparison between two cameras, by making the same shoot from the same angle, using different cameras? That would be a wonderful addition to the discussion of these technical things.
I use millican backpack daily for the last 3 years. My fav piece of gear!
Are you comparing Fuji jpegs to Leica raw files? I use my Fuji X100F jpegs as wallpaper on my full screen Mac without issue.
super honest... straight forward :)
Gutes Video! Stehe gerade vor der gleichen Entscheidung, die Q2 zu kaufen und zusätzlich zu meiner Fuji zu verwenden
I loved shooting film as a kid growing up but I hate shooting film as a adult who feels very impatient. So I shoot fuji and a old used leica m240. I love the leica for the filmlike experience and I love the fuji for the film simulations in a modern camera.
Thank you for your honest review. Although a Q2 is way out of my league, I have bought and used an XF100F, XT10, XPro1, Xpro2 and I still have an XT3. I tried to replace my old Canon 6D, but although image quality on my Fuji is good, it still below my Canon in many ways (I just shoot raw and don’t use film simulations). I’m kind of disappointed in Fuji quality, I expected better, but as you said, once you use the images on larger screens, they begin to fall apart. They’re good enough if you don’t have anything else to campare them with. I like the feeling and handling of my XT3, but I tend to take the bigger and uglier 6D because I tend to favor image quality over looks.
Have the same situation - 6D is simply outstanding and very hard to replace. With good lens even it's kinda poor AF can be improved enough to use it in street photography. So, I just spend money on some good EF lenses, instead of replacing body
Same here well till about a month ago. Upgraded from my 6d to the smaller R5 and a rf50mm and wow this setup is outstanding. I’m also using a Ricoh GrIII.
This guy has a sense and self awareness of a monk lol I loved every point he made. Very wise and sensible point of view
Hi could you please give thoughts with reference to this review with the new firmware update for the Q2? Has it improved any of your issues with the camera that you spoke about in this video? Thanks.
The new update made a huge difference imo! I am working on a video about that right now. If I manage to get it done it should be out tonight.
Yes the Leica white balance is terrible, finally someone is saying it! Why, I haven’t had issues with the wb since the Nikon d3300, but I have on my Leica SL2-S omg
Thanks! Its kind of annoying, but I guess still worth it for the other benefits that their cameras offer. Still frustrating though
Hmm.. speaking as someone with relatively limited funds, I’d say that the difference in price would pay for some nice photography trips. I think the inspiration I gain from travelling to new places and seeing them with fresh eyes does more for the quality of my photographs than the camera, especially in this case where they’re both excellent pieces of kit.
9:20 this is really smart and that what most of us would try. Who wants to spend time editing every photo ! It’s not worth it for casual shooter. I think that’s Fuji biggest advantage
Awesome video. Some of your critiques about reliability and low light are why I switched from Fuji to Sony 6 or so years ago after shooting with Fuji since the X-Pro1 came out. My XPro2 and Xt1 would simply not turn on unless I took the Fuji battery out (yes, Fuji, not off brand). Other times, I’d have to try to turn them on multiple times - inexcusable. Well, I like the Sony for my landscape work, but it simply is not enjoyable for pleasure or city travel. I am seriously thinking about an M11 or Q2 and I find your reviews valuable. Keep us the awesome work.
I gave you a follow just because of the car reference!
1) First of all, I'm not 28mm guy, but rather 35mm, so yes, I'm a bit biased.
2) Fuji files do not fall apart so easily if you know what you are doing and under reasonable ISO settings (at night/indoors that might be another thing), but I'll agree that some simulations, and especially film recipes are better than others in that regard.
3) You can do wonders with fuji RAW files if developed in Capture One. Course Lightroom sucks anyway...
4) From your video I didn't see you had used UV filter in front of your X100V (maybe I'm wrong), what would make that camera not so weather resistant anymore. What could explain weird problems you had in the bad weather.
5) Yes Leica in general is ridiculously overpriced.
6) So ridiculously overpriced, that for the price of one Q2 you can buy:
Fujifilm X-Pro3, with 18mm f1.4, and a thumb grip, with what you get that that Q2 combo. Optical viewfinder included. Not only that, you can buy the whole combo TWICE, and you'll still have a good amount of cash to spare. I'd spend that on alcohol, just saying...
I own neither of these cameras and it’s for none of the reasons you mentioned. For me i prefer a bit more compression so would love to see these with a 50mm lens. Cropping from 28 isn’t the same.
I have the same philosophy for reviews, tell us the negatives to be more informed, let the audience decide. Liked!