I have been shooting these for two years, they zip through whitetail and blow through shoulder plates. The ferral holds up great, but you have to but a rebuild kit for the blades after they run through a deer. Best blood trails you've ever seen, entrance and exit holes are ridiculous! Ive shot some through multiple deer, others needed blad replacements after one deer. Never had an issue with a bent ferral. Deadly accurate out to 80yds. I have harvested at least 12 deer with these, and never had one run more than 100yds.
@JAndSonnn took off running and toting the front leg, I've also had them run with their face in the ground until they expire. Shot a doe yesterday, and it demolished her front shoulder. She didn't run 80yds.
@@CMHasty028 so you just go for shoulder shots constantly with bow? I thought about trying it out with rifle this year and saw people saying you could punch though with a compound. I just got a cross bow to get into archery and I figured that’d do it and just curious of the outcome. I got some big bucks walking around and lost some does this year unfortunately good shots but bad broad heads (rage) so I got these
Ive shot a couple of bucks with these heads and I absolutely love them. Huge entry hole and I had pass throughs. I shoot 60# with 27” draw and 365gr arrow so i dont have a lot of speed or kinetic energy. Yes ive had a bent blade but like always it comes down to shot placement.
Just recently shot 2 deer with this head. I love them! complete pass through of both deer neither went 30 yards. The blades do bend after being shot. One of the deer was shot through the shoulder quartering to me, crushed through hard bone and still had a complete pass through. The blades bend but have not broken, in my experience.
I have taken 2 deer with the Deadmeat version and both heads had broken blades. But, both deer went down within sight and blood trails were massive. Took extreme care in field dressing and did find 2 of the 4 lost blades in the animals.
You should test the G3 dead meat it seems much stronger. The blades shorter but are thicker. I had a pass through on a elk back in September with the dead meat.
@@trentsimmons4778 the mega were designed to be replaceable and intentionally designed weaker. the dead meats were meant for being reused then replaced
I've shot 3 deer with the mega meat 125gr, the blades were all bent. I now decided to stop using them, bent blades can't cut as well as straight blades. Each deer went about 70yds after the shot and the blood trails were not as impressive as I hoped or expected them to be.
@@diggernash1I have a crossbow that's rated for 400 fps. I shoot a 200 grain vpa single bevel, and the total arrow weight is 650 grains. What made the difference was nock tuning. I shoot the same hole at 20, 30 yards and a 2 inch group at 40. It's possible but you definitely have to tinker with the arrow way more. I had my sevrs perfect after 5 shots. It took me probably 80 shots and alot of adjusting to get these shooting well but I'm happy I did. But with that arrow weight I had to buy a speed ring scope , and the weight slowed it down a fair amount from the 400 it was at. The time and money investment may not be worth it to some
I’ve shot two deer with this head. Two mature doe. Both complete pass throughs. One was slightly quartered away. Entered behind the right shoulder and broke the opposite shoulder before coming out. The other was a HARD quartering away shot. Entered behind the last rib bone on the left side and exited behind the right shoulder. Both heads took zero damage. Just cleaned up and resharpened. I would still like to see a heavier version with thicker blades.
Hello, thank you for putting all the videos and testing together. I'm wondering if you've published all your results in one place so a person can compare them? Thanks for your time.
Looks like a few others have already said it but I also would like to see you test the latest deadmeat V2 in 125gr. I killed an adult whitetail doe with one last year on a less than desirable shot..the head completely smashed through and shattered hard long bone. The ferrule remained in perfect condition while the blades only had some light chatter to it without bend. Ive used the megameat before as well and not nearly as impressed. Those longer blades for the larger cut sacrifice penetration and blade durability by a mile imo. However i cant say enough about the deadmeat v2. Sharp enough to shave hair completely off my arm out of the box and built like a tank for a mechanical as far as im concerned.
Nice. That’s a great broadhead as well. It’s not nearly as durable as the Sevr, but it can make a good hole. You might want to stay tuned for about one more week to see what’s coming out.
I would like to see how the G5 DeadMeat holds up against the updated testing regiment, I think with the dead meat being a smaller blade that the blades might not actually bend like the mega meat did.
Great video, wow that is horrible integrity. But on a better note, I put down a 7pt last night with the exact archery Broadhead with the collar added to bring it to 125g. o boy did it perform incredibly well. My son is using them as well. Thanks for all the testing you do.👍ps the head is still incredibly sharp I would not hesitate to use it again.
Very similar outcome to your first review of these. All the “big time” shows swear by these but you couldn’t pay me to shoot them. Thanks for the review, John.
Switching back to 125 Exodus full fixed blades. Shot buck a little back with the sevr 1.75, no pass through and not a single drop of blood anywhere. This is probably due to the fact sevr open when they are inside the cavity. If you don’t have an exit it most likely won’t have a blood trail.
They will definitely put a hole in an animal, and the blades will most likely be mangled. It will typically be a one and done, but not always. I just shot a deer with one and it even went into the dirt and it is reusable. I had a blood trail instantly double lung, and it was spraying blood on the trees as it ran 3ft on the tree…. I use the 125 grain and they put that extra 25 grains into the feral but I wish they would’ve put it into the blades instead on the heavier models.
Took a deer with this broadbead today, it worked great she went about 40 yards double lung. And last year i made a bad shot in the guts and the broad head did its job she went about 200.
Hey man I love your videos!! But I shoot the grim reaper white tail special but I’ve noticed that the arrow kinda wobbles at about 40 yards what your favorite Broadhead for white tail! Thankbyou
Best mechanical broadhead out there!!!!! I've killed multiple species with them and NEVER had a failure! The blades are designed to bend around bones instead of breaking. A bent blade still cuts!!! The week and thin blade issue people have is void since they make replacements! Good luck damaging that ferrell as that's the only way you can't re use the broadhead! Side note if they somehow do fail to open you still have cut on contact and 3 cutting edges same as a fixed!
As long as the ferrule is durable, and the blades hold up well enough to cut through ribs, having single-use blades can provide outstanding cutting performance.
I agree with that largely. But the problem with blades that bend so easily has nothing to do with reuse. It’s more about where it bends inside of an animal. Blades at Bend can impede penetration and affect lethality and blood trails. I love the big holes that these make, but I prefer a bit more durable blade design, that can hold its shape all the way through the animal.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures That's absolutely my thinking. If they bend while cutting through a real animal, they will lose cutting performance. At the same time, being thicker than necissary will also reduce cutting performance. With all sorts of cutting tools (knives, razors, shears, etc.) optimized performance is at the two extremes of durability: either disposable or indestructible. For disposable blades like razors and box cutters, they need to be just durable enough to not fail when performing the task for which they are designed. That is why multipurpose blades, like a survival knife, are best optimized at the indestructible side of things. While specialized single-purpose blades, like razors, perform very well as disposable. Unless you are going to use the same broadhead for a turkey, a whitetail, a wildebeest, and everything in-between; broadheads are absolutely a specialized single-purpose blade. Thus, the thickness of the blade can be optimized to be just durable enough for the target animal.
I have a question for people complaining about the durability. Does anyone actually reuse a mechanical broadhead? I have in nearly 25 years of bowhunting ever thought about reusing a used mechanical without replacing the blades first.
Like a Rage Hypodermic, if you’re lucky enough to slide it between ribs it’ll probably do the job. Any blade contact with ribs is likely to be sheared off. Perhaps the worst part is the mangled condition after after rib contact won’t penetrate.
@@michaelcolthart4006 I shoot animals. The one time in my life that i shot a hypodermic, I got 3-4 inches of penetration with what appeared to be very good shot placement. I was puzzled until I found 2 pieces of blade in the blood within the 1st few feet of blood trail. One had sheared off completely and about a half inch of the other had broken off. It’s unacceptable for a bone as small as a rib to do that type of damage to a broadhead. Since that day, I’ve shot one piece, single bevel, fixed blade and never had an issue. Silly??? What’s silly is shooting these Fisher Price flappers that work SOMETIMES. The reality is that animals have bones, and it takes an adult broadhead to work every time.
Have killed a lot of deer with different broadheads over the years. Blacktail deer here in Oregon. Have killed multiple deer with megameats, best most leathal devastating broadhead ever used. Usually clean passthroughs, except this year. Hit a buck quartering away, hit leg joint/bone offside shoulder. Blew bone to many pieces. Sharpened 2 blades and replaced one. My son killed a doe with same broadhead.
I've always said if g5 would make the regular deadmeats with much thicker higher quality blades, they would be the absolute best mechanical ever!!!!! The only con is they are one and dones! Blades always bend or break! But man do I luv um!!!!
Probably an unpopular stance but I don’t know if the weak blades are an end all be all here. In any case they should be strong enough to enter relatively unscathed leaving a big entrance hole (ideal). Even if one or two get bent/partially broke on a rib let’s say, you still have one to two blades cutting going forward. Yes this is undesirable but the trade off is you will get better penetration due to the blades giving. Haven’t shot anything with them so this I just theory but I’ve heard good things about em! Awesome video again John!
Thank you. No doubt they cause significant damage. Too bad they don't make the blades stronger--in that case it would be a top top tier head. But it's still quite lethal and would be fine in most situations.
I shoot a 550gr arrow at 85 pounds, 31 inch draw length so never have to be concerned with penetration. I understand most people don't have long draw and willingness to shoot high poundage. Would go deadmeat or sevre at lower poundage.
Great test thanks. Personally I'll stick with a sevr. I like finding them in the same shape they went into them. I can't thank you enough for introducing me to sevrs they rock
Started using Sevr the year they came out…formerly known as the Ulmer edge. Sevr is the only mechanical i would trust and use still i think. And now love the idea of a 1.75” cut for good middle of the road cut and penetration. I switched to diff vanes and VPA solid 3 blades this year. Yet to take anything with them tho
QAD Exodus and Sevrs will stay in my quiver. I don't shoot concrete but I'm glad that I can if I want to 😉 also the QADs are crazy sharp I've cut myself messing with them a few times.
I like everything about them and have some to test on pigs soon. I’ve really hoped they would do a 2 blade 1.5 cut to compete with the sevr because I think G5 blades are superior
You said it right. "If it's one and done.......when does the 'done' take place?" I had a poor experience with this broadhead, deflection off a rib on a quartering away shot. Probably some bad luck involved, had the deer on camera 2 days later with a wound just behind the shoulder. Switched to a heavier setup, high FOC and a fixed blade, gave up cutting diameter and a large margin for error on bow setup and arrow tuning for cutting depth, broadhead durability, and reusability. No free lunches in arrow + broadhead selection, but the wound channel is 3d not 2d. That's lost on most hunters it seems.
Jack hammers are super tuff i shot several deer with one then had to sharpen I love vortex huge 2 blade broadhead I went to jack hammer because big hogs a very hard to get a pass thru and I guess the fat closes up the 2 blade the dead meats work just bent blades
I don’t understand the vents I guess it’s to cut weight but I think it would be a way better head if they’d shorten the blades remove vents and make them thicker
I knew before watching the full video it was going to fail on some pretty basic tests. I have gotten to the point where I rule out mechanical heads for hunting because it just doesn't seem ethical. Love the reviews and this goes to show that even G5 doesn't make a good mechanical head. SEVR is probably the only reliable one but I still wouldn't trust it personally.
I hate to admit it, but the Bowmar broadhead impressed me. I'd still like a heavier version but I can't honestly say they are bad for whitetail. I still don't want to use a mech on anything, but they work. Most people want to kill the animal, and pretty much anything will do that. I want to ethically drop the animal where it stands, and that requires hitting forward lobes of the lungs and large arteries. Fixed blades for me.
@@YoureSoVaneI've never seen any any archery equipment that can "drop an animal where it stands" without hitting spine. No matter how perfect you center punch it, it's not a rifle
@@lukeonderko8696 I agree, but hyperbole is still illustrative. Toppling over in less than 50 yards is both impressive and the measure of success. Some animals go into shock so quickly they don't react until they fall over, but that's luck and not skill. Gut shots are a guaranteed kill, but you gotta leave them alone for a day and hope the coyotes don't pick it clean first.
@@YoureSoVane All of the deer I gave shot with montec g5 have died in sight. The ones I shot with a rage ran 200 yards with my arrow sticking out of its side.
Shooting this head this year and they are destroying deer had one tip get jacked up a touch from the ground I have had a few blades bend through shoulders and leg bones but still 40 yard blood trails that the iron will bill fan club never seen before lol I shoot these with a bent blade before I would shoot a fixed two blade lol
I just bought 4 packs...love em!...till I found out they are considered to be a barbed broad head, And I cant use them in nys!! Im pretty sure some of you guys dont realize that, be careful!
I thought the blades been back up toward the top, so they are not considered barbed. But it’s been a while since I tested them. Can someone else comment?
I seen first hand they kill. They do blow blades up. Caleb likes them and he shoots 80 pounds. I warned him a big boar hog will swallow that thing up in it's shield. Probably a good deer head ? Not for me, not a mechanical fan. But I seen them do some damage.
on the mega meat they intentionally designed the blades to be weaker intentionally in order to reduce the deflection of the bolt or arrow when or if you hit bone or rib on way in. so they made the blades replaceable they got a cool cheap little pack deal . if your wanting a more reusable broadhead try the dead meats there more robust.
Yeah, that’s what company say when their blades bend or break too easily. I would not worry about deflection with a three blade Broadhead. It could happen, but it would be very rare. I would much rather have the blades retain their full cut size and structural integrity all the way through the animal.
@ the originals the dead meat do keep there cut and integrity. the mega were designed with replaceable blades. it’s smart really bigger cut means more chance of catching a bone. so why not. i can say i have not changed my dead meats at all same heads same blades no issues going on 3 full year. now my mega meats i have had to only replace one so far as to hitting a tree on the exit and well i didnt get my broad head back i just unscrewed it and went on burried way to deep to retrieve
Tested even worse than it did last time. I would like to see the Deadmeat V2 reviewed again. I also stumbled across WASP Z Force, these look every bit the part and have been around a long time. I would like to see them put through the protocol also. Rear deploy, 3 blade 1 5/8", all stainless and made in the USA.
Send him a pack he'll gladly test them can you imagine how much money this would take if some viewers didn't send a pack of heads and some companies sends some also usually with nothing to hide like this company
I can’t wait to smack a deer with the megameat. The Doe I shot at 8 yards with the deadmeat was a clean pass through into the dirt and the blades where in great shape. I swapped them out to mega blades so will see soon if those hold up.
The Largest study ever done was done in Africa and one of the two.things he said was mechanical boadheads are a no go and B= the size of the cut of the fixed blade broadhead made ZERO Differance when the archer made a lethal or good shot on the animal. Im speakimg of the first two broadheads.!!
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Mark im a bear guide and a guy whos killed hundreds of deer. The study was huge, it was done in africa. He wrote a book on this. A 1 inch head going through buffalo lungs 🫁 or a 2 inch cut they died at.the same distance. Read man. Also read my post about Jesus..... Pastor..............
Lusk check out the squirrel I shot with a Mega Meat on my channel. Just posted it the other day. Insane! Then I hit a doe in the shoulder at 30 yards and got no blood or anything. Had a tracker come out too. I still like the broadheads.
These are the perfect one and done broadhead. I’ve used them for years. Every time I shoot one I throw it away and put a new one on. I got like 30 of them
Great review the craziest part about the weak blades is the price you are paying! I have always wanted to shoot these heads but I have always heard about the blades being terrible. And this proved it. For $60 can we please get stronger blades lol 😂.
Even tho the durability was severely lacking, the ferrel was surprisingly strong. If only Bowmar could imitate the ferrel or G5 imitate Bowmars blades…
Wicked broadheads , I wished they would move up their game on blade thickness like wasp jak- hammers . .036 .... Would definitely be an amazing broadhead... But all in all , forfeit one broadhead on a kill , still not a bad deal ...
They’re devastating to anything the go through, 70 lbs bow blew through a turkey but you’re switching blades anytime you shoot anything. Great blood trails though.
Reminds me of the b3 heads. Great design, horrible blade strength. Same as the b3, this year at 125gr with thicker and stronger blades would be a monster
I use the mega meats.i won't use anything else.i shoot a hoyt axis set at 58 pounds.i get pass threws and every deer that I shoot only goes 40to50yards.the holes these things put in a deer looks like they r shot with a rifle.dont let this test change your mind of shooting these.
With better quality, thicker blades this looks like a nice design. However, with the current set up, the blades bend substantially and the original path of the arrow is in jeopardy which to me is unacceptable
It is an amazing broad head. Mega meat is all I use now. It makes a devastating hole & Both deer this year only ran 27 & 32 yards. Very fast & humane kill
I have shot 3 deer with these and it destroyed all of them hitting ribs and bent the ferrules on two and they will kill deer but at 20 bucks each they are definitely not worth the money.
I like the Montec, but no way I’d shoot this head. As an engineer, structural integrity means a lot to me. One look at the blade design and you can see the weak points. Good ferrule, but it’s the blades that kill. Needs redesigned blades.
Make it 150gn and put the extra 50gn into the blades. I've never seen a broadhead with blades that dinky. And the ferrule alone would be good for small game as robust as it is.
You know if all the " celebrity" hunters are promoting a broadhead, I know not to ev3n try them!! 😂😂 Thanks John. I won't ever use a broadhead until I watch a test from you anyways.!!
Probably work fine on a whitetail most of the time. Not durable enough for me with our big bodied northern whitetail and a definite no for elk and moose. So many better mechanical options available.
People buy these like hot cakes. I think if the blades were thicker and more durable they would be ok. But i can't see paying $65 for 3 heads that are done for after one shot. Id be scared that thing would break when it hit the animal. I guess it's just a hype thing with this head. I'll stick with my titanium expendables 😉
It’s a shame that we judge the potential on a deer’s body in these web reviews using non-applicable materials and testing. It’s more criminal than it would be to line up penned deer for actual testing 😂😂😂
I think you’re missing the point of the testing. The point is just to provide comparative data points using consistent mediums. Then each viewer can decide the relevancy or importance of those data points. No insane. It’s imperative to hold up to steel plate or concrete. And those tests actually receive a very small percentage of the total score.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Yes sir. I suppose I’ve just never understood the reason to choose mediums that will never actually apply to a broadhead’s use. Someone buying or not buying a broadhead based on its reaction to steel or concrete seems unfair to the mfg’s design and their intent. My skinning knife will be destroyed by concrete but work consistently on what it was intended to be used on. I do enjoy your reviews by the way!
I have been shooting these for two years, they zip through whitetail and blow through shoulder plates. The ferral holds up great, but you have to but a rebuild kit for the blades after they run through a deer. Best blood trails you've ever seen, entrance and exit holes are ridiculous! Ive shot some through multiple deer, others needed blad replacements after one deer. Never had an issue with a bent ferral. Deadly accurate out to 80yds. I have harvested at least 12 deer with these, and never had one run more than 100yds.
Thanks for sharing that
How did the deer reacting blowing through the shoulder? Did it drop like it would with a gun?
@JAndSonnn took off running and toting the front leg, I've also had them run with their face in the ground until they expire. Shot a doe yesterday, and it demolished her front shoulder. She didn't run 80yds.
@@CMHasty028 so you just go for shoulder shots constantly with bow? I thought about trying it out with rifle this year and saw people saying you could punch though with a compound. I just got a cross bow to get into archery and I figured that’d do it and just curious of the outcome. I got some big bucks walking around and lost some does this year unfortunately good shots but bad broad heads (rage) so I got these
@@JAndSonnn no sir, but if they've got one leg back on the opposite side and it just happens to catch it, it's brutal.
Ive shot a couple of bucks with these heads and I absolutely love them. Huge entry hole and I had pass throughs. I shoot 60# with 27” draw and 365gr arrow so i dont have a lot of speed or kinetic energy. Yes ive had a bent blade but like always it comes down to shot placement.
Thanks for sharing that experience
I've been waiting for this review! Love this head. It makes them take a dirt nap!
Thanks
Just recently shot 2 deer with this head. I love them! complete pass through of both deer neither went 30 yards. The blades do bend after being shot. One of the deer was shot through the shoulder quartering to me, crushed through hard bone and still had a complete pass through. The blades bend but have not broken, in my experience.
Thanks die for sharing that.
I've been shooting the xbow version with my Parker. They shoot incredibly accurate with field point to broadhead. Never had issues with the blades.
I have taken 2 deer with the Deadmeat version and both heads had broken blades. But, both deer went down within sight and blood trails were massive. Took extreme care in field dressing and did find 2 of the 4 lost blades in the animals.
Thanks for sharing that experience
I’ve been using them for 3 years, they are devastating on whitetail. Unbelievable blood trails.
Yeah, they sure open up a big hole. Thank you for sharing your experience.
You should test the G3 dead meat it seems much stronger. The blades shorter but are thicker. I had a pass through on a elk back in September with the dead meat.
Yeah, I’ve hunted with those. So many heads to test; if someone donates it I’ll do it.
@@trentsimmons4778 the mega were designed to be replaceable and intentionally designed weaker. the dead meats were meant for being reused then replaced
Like the honesty, when is one an done exactly!
Yep
I've shot 3 deer with the mega meat 125gr, the blades were all bent. I now decided to stop using them, bent blades can't cut as well as straight blades. Each deer went about 70yds after the shot and the blood trails were not as impressive as I hoped or expected them to be.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
That got a high score and it did not even make it to the sheet metal test. I would not use them. Fixed blade broadheads are the way to go imo.
I struggle to get wide-cut, fixed blades to fly well over 400 fps, even after arrow tuning. The mechanicals just seem to work for us flat bow guys.
I agree with you 100%. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
@@diggernash1I have a crossbow that's rated for 400 fps. I shoot a 200 grain vpa single bevel, and the total arrow weight is 650 grains.
What made the difference was nock tuning. I shoot the same hole at 20, 30 yards and a 2 inch group at 40.
It's possible but you definitely have to tinker with the arrow way more. I had my sevrs perfect after 5 shots. It took me probably 80 shots and alot of adjusting to get these shooting well but I'm happy I did.
But with that arrow weight I had to buy a speed ring scope , and the weight slowed it down a fair amount from the 400 it was at. The time and money investment may not be worth it to some
Well, they scored very low for durability…but high for flight, cut size and sharpness. Thus, they got around 80; which is average.
I’ve shot two deer with this head. Two mature doe. Both complete pass throughs. One was slightly quartered away. Entered behind the right shoulder and broke the opposite shoulder before coming out.
The other was a HARD quartering away shot. Entered behind the last rib bone on the left side and exited behind the right shoulder. Both heads took zero damage. Just cleaned up and resharpened. I would still like to see a heavier version with thicker blades.
Good to hear. Thanks for sharing that experience
Good review, John.
Thank you
Hello, thank you for putting all the videos and testing together. I'm wondering if you've published all your results in one place so a person can compare them? Thanks for your time.
Thank you. I post the spread sheet in the last vid of each year. I’m working on compiling the one for 2023 now. It will be posted in December.
I’ve shot two deer this season with the mega meat. The kills were clean but the blades bend whenever it hits bone. It is a one use broad head.
Thanks for the comment
Looks like a few others have already said it but I also would like to see you test the latest deadmeat V2 in 125gr. I killed an adult whitetail doe with one last year on a less than desirable shot..the head completely smashed through and shattered hard long bone. The ferrule remained in perfect condition while the blades only had some light chatter to it without bend. Ive used the megameat before as well and not nearly as impressed. Those longer blades for the larger cut sacrifice penetration and blade durability by a mile imo. However i cant say enough about the deadmeat v2. Sharp enough to shave hair completely off my arm out of the box and built like a tank for a mechanical as far as im concerned.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I’m trying the Deadmeat on elk this year!!! It was between the Sevr and the Deadmeat and I think the Deadmeat with my setup will put them
Down faster.
Nice. That’s a great broadhead as well. It’s not nearly as durable as the Sevr, but it can make a good hole. You might want to stay tuned for about one more week to see what’s coming out.
I would like to see how the G5 DeadMeat holds up against the updated testing regiment, I think with the dead meat being a smaller blade that the blades might not actually bend like the mega meat did.
I just bought some Deadmeats to test
Great video, wow that is horrible integrity. But on a better note, I put down a 7pt last night with the exact archery Broadhead with the collar added to bring it to 125g. o boy did it perform incredibly well. My son is using them as well. Thanks for all the testing you do.👍ps the head is still incredibly sharp I would not hesitate to use it again.
Glad to hear that. Congratulations
Best broadhead on the market - completely destructive and deadly.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Would love to see the deadmeat run through the new tests!
Yeah, I'd like to test them. But my budget it tapped. If someone donates a pack, I'll do it.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I hear ya John!
Pretty high score for a head that couldn't complete a few tests and failed so much. You'd think it'd receive a lower score.
Well, I can’t change the scoring :) It scored high for sharpness, cut size and flight. Super low for durability.
Very similar outcome to your first review of these. All the “big time” shows swear by these but you couldn’t pay me to shoot them. Thanks for the review, John.
Thank you!
Switching back to 125 Exodus full fixed blades. Shot buck a little back with the sevr 1.75, no pass through and not a single drop of blood anywhere. This is probably due to the fact sevr open when they are inside the cavity. If you don’t have an exit it most likely won’t have a blood trail.
Ok.
Great show. I was wondering how dull a tip gets when put in an out of a quiver , any thoughts? Thank you.
Depends on the steel and bevel angle and how hard/often you push it into the quiver. But they do dull a bit
They will definitely put a hole in an animal, and the blades will most likely be mangled. It will typically be a one and done, but not always. I just shot a deer with one and it even went into the dirt and it is reusable. I had a blood trail instantly double lung, and it was spraying blood on the trees as it ran 3ft on the tree…. I use the 125 grain and they put that extra 25 grains into the feral but I wish they would’ve put it into the blades instead on the heavier models.
Thanks for the comment
Took a deer with this broadbead today, it worked great she went about 40 yards double lung.
And last year i made a bad shot in the guts and the broad head did its job she went about 200.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Hey man I love your videos!! But I shoot the grim reaper white tail special but I’ve noticed that the arrow kinda wobbles at about 40 yards what your favorite Broadhead for white tail! Thankbyou
I really like the Sevr 1.75 or 2.0 for whitetail. But the Megameat will get it done as well.
Can you please do an updated Tooth of the Arrow 4 blade 125gr Vented 🙏🏻
I thought I did those just last year. Maybe I'll do them again in 2024.
I think they perform really well. They are just one and done. And that's fine with me if I get huge blood trails.
Yep
After all this testing it would be interesting to hear your own personal go-to broadheads for medium and large game!
Sevr 1.75
I share that quite a bit, as I video most of my hunts and show the broadheads I use on them.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I need to pay more attention! Those ones don’t pop up on my feed like these test videos do. Thanks! I’ll go look..
John I was surprised at how easily the blades bent into the foam.
Well, there’s MDF in there as well
My go to mechanical but i usually use montecs
Very good
Best mechanical broadhead out there!!!!! I've killed multiple species with them and NEVER had a failure! The blades are designed to bend around bones instead of breaking. A bent blade still cuts!!! The week and thin blade issue people have is void since they make replacements! Good luck damaging that ferrell as that's the only way you can't re use the broadhead! Side note if they somehow do fail to open you still have cut on contact and 3 cutting edges same as a fixed!
Thanks for sharing your experience.
As long as the ferrule is durable, and the blades hold up well enough to cut through ribs, having single-use blades can provide outstanding cutting performance.
I agree with that largely. But the problem with blades that bend so easily has nothing to do with reuse. It’s more about where it bends inside of an animal. Blades at Bend can impede penetration and affect lethality and blood trails. I love the big holes that these make, but I prefer a bit more durable blade design, that can hold its shape all the way through the animal.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures That's absolutely my thinking. If they bend while cutting through a real animal, they will lose cutting performance. At the same time, being thicker than necissary will also reduce cutting performance. With all sorts of cutting tools (knives, razors, shears, etc.) optimized performance is at the two extremes of durability: either disposable or indestructible. For disposable blades like razors and box cutters, they need to be just durable enough to not fail when performing the task for which they are designed. That is why multipurpose blades, like a survival knife, are best optimized at the indestructible side of things. While specialized single-purpose blades, like razors, perform very well as disposable. Unless you are going to use the same broadhead for a turkey, a whitetail, a wildebeest, and everything in-between; broadheads are absolutely a specialized single-purpose blade. Thus, the thickness of the blade can be optimized to be just durable enough for the target animal.
I have a question for people complaining about the durability. Does anyone actually reuse a mechanical broadhead? I have in nearly 25 years of bowhunting ever thought about reusing a used mechanical without replacing the blades first.
It’s not really about reuse. It’s about when the blades bend or break. If that happens 25% of the way into an animal, then you have a problem.
Like a Rage Hypodermic, if you’re lucky enough to slide it between ribs it’ll probably do the job. Any blade contact with ribs is likely to be sheared off. Perhaps the worst part is the mangled condition after after rib contact won’t penetrate.
Nuthing like a rage hypodermic! Way worse
Rage hypodermic +p is probably the goat of mechanical heads.. They don’t make them anymore because people think a 1/2” bigger cut is better.
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Ask people who shoot animals, not boards and cement blocks and you’ll find how silly that comment was.
@@michaelcolthart4006 I shoot animals. The one time in my life that i shot a hypodermic, I got 3-4 inches of penetration with what appeared to be very good shot placement. I was puzzled until I found 2 pieces of blade in the blood within the 1st few feet of blood trail. One had sheared off completely and about a half inch of the other had broken off. It’s unacceptable for a bone as small as a rib to do that type of damage to a broadhead. Since that day, I’ve shot one piece, single bevel, fixed blade and never had an issue. Silly??? What’s silly is shooting these Fisher Price flappers that work SOMETIMES. The reality is that animals have bones, and it takes an adult broadhead to work every time.
Have killed a lot of deer with different broadheads over the years. Blacktail deer here in Oregon. Have killed multiple deer with megameats, best most leathal devastating broadhead ever used. Usually clean passthroughs, except this year. Hit a buck quartering away, hit leg joint/bone offside shoulder. Blew bone to many pieces. Sharpened 2 blades and replaced one. My son killed a doe with same broadhead.
Nearly indistructable broadead. Have only broken one blade so far but didn't matter. Carnage was done and deer was down.
Thanks for sharing your experience
I've always said if g5 would make the regular deadmeats with much thicker higher quality blades, they would be the absolute best mechanical ever!!!!! The only con is they are one and dones! Blades always bend or break! But man do I luv um!!!!
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Probably an unpopular stance but I don’t know if the weak blades are an end all be all here.
In any case they should be strong enough to enter relatively unscathed leaving a big entrance hole (ideal). Even if one or two get bent/partially broke on a rib let’s say, you still have one to two blades cutting going forward. Yes this is undesirable but the trade off is you will get better penetration due to the blades giving.
Haven’t shot anything with them so this I just theory but I’ve heard good things about em!
Awesome video again John!
Thank you. No doubt they cause significant damage. Too bad they don't make the blades stronger--in that case it would be a top top tier head. But it's still quite lethal and would be fine in most situations.
I shoot a 550gr arrow at 85 pounds, 31 inch draw length so never have to be concerned with penetration. I understand most people don't have long draw and willingness to shoot high poundage. Would go deadmeat or sevre at lower poundage.
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I love all G5 broadheads
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Hello i would really like you to test "GRIM REPPER" broadhead
I’ve tested quite a few already. Just search Lusk Grim Reaper on TH-cam and they’ll come up. Got another one coming in a week
I avoided these because of what I head of the durability in the past. Also is there any chance of you testing the Simmons great white?
I’ve already tested it. Just search Lusk Simmons on TH-cam and it will come up.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures just did, thank you very much
I’ve taken 2 bucks so far they perform great but they’re one time use in my opinion they blood trail they leave is massive
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Just a question are these and the deadmeats considered barbed?
Nope. They blades collapse backwards when being pulled out
Great test thanks. Personally I'll stick with a sevr. I like finding them in the same shape they went into them. I can't thank you enough for introducing me to sevrs they rock
If I'm shooting mechanicals they're the only one I'll use. They're fantastic.
Thanks Justin
i just started using mechanicals this year because of his testing i also went with sevr
Started using Sevr the year they came out…formerly known as the Ulmer edge. Sevr is the only mechanical i would trust and use still i think. And now love the idea of a 1.75” cut for good middle of the road cut and penetration. I switched to diff vanes and VPA solid 3 blades this year. Yet to take anything with them tho
QAD Exodus and Sevrs will stay in my quiver. I don't shoot concrete but I'm glad that I can if I want to 😉 also the QADs are crazy sharp I've cut myself messing with them a few times.
I like everything about them and have some to test on pigs soon. I’ve really hoped they would do a 2 blade 1.5 cut to compete with the sevr because I think G5 blades are superior
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You said it right. "If it's one and done.......when does the 'done' take place?" I had a poor experience with this broadhead, deflection off a rib on a quartering away shot. Probably some bad luck involved, had the deer on camera 2 days later with a wound just behind the shoulder. Switched to a heavier setup, high FOC and a fixed blade, gave up cutting diameter and a large margin for error on bow setup and arrow tuning for cutting depth, broadhead durability, and reusability. No free lunches in arrow + broadhead selection, but the wound channel is 3d not 2d. That's lost on most hunters it seems.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Jack hammers are super tuff i shot several deer with one then had to sharpen I love vortex huge 2 blade broadhead I went to jack hammer because big hogs a very hard to get a pass thru and I guess the fat closes up the 2 blade the dead meats work just bent blades
Ive actually heard bad things about that broadhead at my local bow shop and now i can see why! thanks mr Lusk great video
Thank you
I don’t understand the vents I guess it’s to cut weight but I think it would be a way better head if they’d shorten the blades remove vents and make them thicker
Right?
spit fire never let me down at half the price
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I knew before watching the full video it was going to fail on some pretty basic tests. I have gotten to the point where I rule out mechanical heads for hunting because it just doesn't seem ethical. Love the reviews and this goes to show that even G5 doesn't make a good mechanical head. SEVR is probably the only reliable one but I still wouldn't trust it personally.
I hate to admit it, but the Bowmar broadhead impressed me. I'd still like a heavier version but I can't honestly say they are bad for whitetail. I still don't want to use a mech on anything, but they work.
Most people want to kill the animal, and pretty much anything will do that. I want to ethically drop the animal where it stands, and that requires hitting forward lobes of the lungs and large arteries. Fixed blades for me.
@@YoureSoVaneI've never seen any any archery equipment that can "drop an animal where it stands" without hitting spine. No matter how perfect you center punch it, it's not a rifle
@@lukeonderko8696 I agree, but hyperbole is still illustrative. Toppling over in less than 50 yards is both impressive and the measure of success. Some animals go into shock so quickly they don't react until they fall over, but that's luck and not skill.
Gut shots are a guaranteed kill, but you gotta leave them alone for a day and hope the coyotes don't pick it clean first.
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@@YoureSoVane All of the deer I gave shot with montec g5 have died in sight. The ones I shot with a rage ran 200 yards with my arrow sticking out of its side.
Shooting this head this year and they are destroying deer had one tip get jacked up a touch from the ground I have had a few blades bend through shoulders and leg bones but still 40 yard blood trails that the iron will bill fan club never seen before lol I shoot these with a bent blade before I would shoot a fixed two blade lol
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I've seen alot of TH-cam tests with the blades easily braking off. To bad.
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I just bought 4 packs...love em!...till I found out they are considered to be a barbed broad head, And I cant use them in nys!! Im pretty sure some of you guys dont realize that, be careful!
I thought the blades been back up toward the top, so they are not considered barbed. But it’s been a while since I tested them. Can someone else comment?
i like the nice steel ferrule, but thats the only good thing i can say about them.
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I seen first hand they kill. They do blow blades up. Caleb likes them and he shoots 80 pounds. I warned him a big boar hog will swallow that thing up in it's shield. Probably a good deer head ? Not for me, not a mechanical fan. But I seen them do some damage.
Thanks for sharing that Mike
on the mega meat they intentionally designed the blades to be weaker intentionally in order to reduce the deflection of the bolt or arrow when or if you hit bone or rib on way in. so they made the blades replaceable they got a cool cheap little pack deal . if your wanting a more reusable broadhead try the dead meats there more robust.
Yeah, that’s what company say when their blades bend or break too easily. I would not worry about deflection with a three blade Broadhead. It could happen, but it would be very rare. I would much rather have the blades retain their full cut size and structural integrity all the way through the animal.
@ the originals the dead meat do keep there cut and integrity. the mega were designed with replaceable blades. it’s smart really bigger cut means more chance of catching a bone. so why not. i can say i have not changed my dead meats at all same heads same blades no issues going on 3 full year. now my mega meats i have had to only replace one so far as to hitting a tree on the exit and well i didnt get my broad head back i just unscrewed it and went on burried way to deep to retrieve
Tried one of these a couple years ago threw the rest in the trash
Thanks for sharing your experience
Tested even worse than it did last time. I would like to see the Deadmeat V2 reviewed again. I also stumbled across WASP Z Force, these look every bit the part and have been around a long time. I would like to see them put through the protocol also. Rear deploy, 3 blade 1 5/8", all stainless and made in the USA.
Send him a pack he'll gladly test them can you imagine how much money this would take if some viewers didn't send a pack of heads and some companies sends some also usually with nothing to hide like this company
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I can’t wait to smack a deer with the megameat. The Doe I shot at 8 yards with the deadmeat was a clean pass through into the dirt and the blades where in great shape. I swapped them out to mega blades so will see soon if those hold up.
Good luck
The Largest study ever done was done in Africa and one of the two.things he said was mechanical boadheads are a no go and B= the size of the cut of the fixed blade broadhead made ZERO Differance when the archer made a lethal or good shot on the animal. Im speakimg of the first two broadheads.!!
Interesting. But that just doesn’t make physical sense, honestly.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Mark im a bear guide and a guy whos killed hundreds of deer. The study was huge, it was done in africa. He wrote a book on this. A 1 inch head going through buffalo lungs 🫁 or a 2 inch cut they died at.the same distance. Read man. Also read my post about Jesus..... Pastor..............
Lusk check out the squirrel I shot with a Mega Meat on my channel. Just posted it the other day. Insane! Then I hit a doe in the shoulder at 30 yards and got no blood or anything. Had a tracker come out too. I still like the broadheads.
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These are the perfect one and done broadhead. I’ve used them for years. Every time I shoot one I throw it away and put a new one on. I got like 30 of them
Thanks for sharing your experience
I saw one after it went through just the ribs. The blades bent the same way. Not a fan
Thanks for sharing that experience.
Great review the craziest part about the weak blades is the price you are paying! I have always wanted to shoot these heads but I have always heard about the blades being terrible. And this proved it. For $60 can we please get stronger blades lol 😂.
Yeah, they definitely had their strengths, but not quite the durability that I’m looking for
Even tho the durability was severely lacking, the ferrel was surprisingly strong. If only Bowmar could imitate the ferrel or G5 imitate Bowmars blades…
Josh has a new titanium ferrule coming out. I’ll be testing it in early 2025.
I'd guess that it'd be a pretty good stoper for big birds such as turkey or goose.
I wouldn't send one into anything else.
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Wicked broadheads , I wished they would move up their game on blade thickness like wasp jak- hammers . .036 .... Would definitely be an amazing broadhead... But all in all , forfeit one broadhead on a kill , still not a bad deal ...
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Toxic Broadhead are by far my favorite Broadhead out there!! Fixed blade wise! They literally drop deer within 20yrs for me!
Okay. I did a test on them a couple years back; it's here on my channel.
They’re devastating to anything the go through, 70 lbs bow blew through a turkey but you’re switching blades anytime you shoot anything. Great blood trails though.
Yep.
I shoot these in 125gr and have never failed to kill what I’ve shot!
Thanks for sharing that
Reminds me of the b3 heads. Great design, horrible blade strength. Same as the b3, this year at 125gr with thicker and stronger blades would be a monster
Yep. That would help
Glad i watched this ill stick to what i use which havent bend afyer 3 yrars same 3 heads still going
Very good. Good luck.
The dead meats are a much more durable head but for one and done on deer they are great.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
They seem solid for balloon popping 😂
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I don't think I would hunt game with those. Great video
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I use the mega meats.i won't use anything else.i shoot a hoyt axis set at 58 pounds.i get pass threws and every deer that I shoot only goes 40to50yards.the holes these things put in a deer looks like they r shot with a rifle.dont let this test change your mind of shooting these.
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With better quality, thicker blades this looks like a nice design. However, with the current set up, the blades bend substantially and the original path of the arrow is in jeopardy which to me is unacceptable
Yep.
They should make a stronger 150 grain
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Seems to need a lot heavier duty blades. Honestly I never shoot the same broad head after a shot on an animal anyhoo.
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Well, they are pretty much JUNK! I wouldn't risk this head on a turkey! great job as always
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It is an amazing broad head. Mega meat is all I use now. It makes a devastating hole & Both deer this year only ran 27 & 32 yards. Very fast & humane kill
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I have shot 3 deer with these and it destroyed all of them hitting ribs and bent the ferrules on two and they will kill deer but at 20 bucks each they are definitely not worth the money.
Bent the feral or the blades….
@@blacksrfm Both It destroyed the blades and bent the ferrules
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I like the Montec, but no way I’d shoot this head. As an engineer, structural integrity means a lot to me. One look at the blade design and you can see the weak points. Good ferrule, but it’s the blades that kill. Needs redesigned blades.
Yeah, I'm sure they will get the job done most of the time...but man, if they made the blades more durable they'd have a real heck of a broadhead.
Look like they’re a solid choice for gut shooting deer.
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Or right up the back door 😊
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Shit everywhere
Yep. If you make a good hit they DUMP blood. If you don’t make as good of a shot the amount of damage it does is extremely advantageous
I was expecting them to be way better
They have some good strengths.
For the price of them you would think they would make the blades with more integrity
Yeah, that would help
Make it 150gn and put the extra 50gn into the blades. I've never seen a broadhead with blades that dinky. And the ferrule alone would be good for small game as robust as it is.
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You know if all the " celebrity" hunters are promoting a broadhead, I know not to ev3n try them!! 😂😂 Thanks John. I won't ever use a broadhead until I watch a test from you anyways.!!
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Probably work fine on a whitetail most of the time. Not durable enough for me with our big bodied northern whitetail and a definite no for elk and moose. So many better mechanical options available.
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People buy these like hot cakes. I think if the blades were thicker and more durable they would be ok. But i can't see paying $65 for 3 heads that are done for after one shot. Id be scared that thing would break when it hit the animal. I guess it's just a hype thing with this head. I'll stick with my titanium expendables 😉
Yeah, I wish they just improved the durability. Then it would be an amazing broadhead.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures i agree. They got a good design. With the 3 blade and rear deploy. Just need thicker hardware
I have yet to see concrete inside a deer.
Oh that’s funny. No one’s ever said that
@@LuskArcheryAdventures LOL
Thats crazy people still want to use a head that fell apart😂
Yeah. They certainly can make a big hole and be quite lethal. I just prefer more durability.
Shouldn’t you always take a reasonable shot and not a questionable one??
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JUNK
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It’s not my favorite head, if I’m gonna use a 2in mechanical, I’ll stick to my grim reapers. Always done right by me at least
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It’s a shame that we judge the potential on a deer’s body in these web reviews using non-applicable materials and testing. It’s more criminal than it would be to line up penned deer for actual testing 😂😂😂
I think you’re missing the point of the testing. The point is just to provide comparative data points using consistent mediums. Then each viewer can decide the relevancy or importance of those data points. No insane. It’s imperative to hold up to steel plate or concrete. And those tests actually receive a very small percentage of the total score.
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Yes sir. I suppose I’ve just never understood the reason to choose mediums that will never actually apply to a broadhead’s use. Someone buying or not buying a broadhead based on its reaction to steel or concrete seems unfair to the mfg’s design and their intent. My skinning knife will be destroyed by concrete but work consistently on what it was intended to be used on. I do enjoy your reviews by the way!
Like someone said! Best broadhead available for gut shooting animals
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