A faithful anime in good quality would be a dream ... so people would stop idolizing Fairy Tail, and could discover and ejoy this masterpiece of serie!
Jellal uses the pseudonym "Siegrain" in the council, but Sieghart has nothing to do with it. They are two different manga, they have no common plot. That pseudonym is just another "reference" to Rave in Fairy Tail...
Sore wa chigau yo This series does not take place in the same universe that is a fan theory they are both very different series fairy tail has a lot of references and similarity's
What makes this scene sadder is that we have seen the skull a previously. We knew someone died and protected something for very very long time. But we never knew it was Sieg all along until this scene. This is my all time favorite death scene in manga. Itachi's comes to the 2nd and Portgas D.Ace's follows behind.
Same here, i only heard about rave master by accident, and had no prior knowledge about thr plot, or characters. So when the Skelton showed up, j thought oh must be a anciet warrior who is still waiting, hope we get too see his backstory, then when thr reveal happend, i lost my shit, cause i was thinking we werr just gonna see sieg be stuck in the past, but thenwe learn who it was. I still frels sad whatever i see this
Sieghart... the best character of Rave Master universe... and one of the best of the entire world of anime and manga! His death was at the same time immensely sad and immensely epic ... one of the best things you will ever see in one manga ... rest in peace, immortal hero (i'm still crying... very very nice video)
***** Yeah, but it is the same for every character "copied/inspired" from Rave Master to Fairy Tail... no one of the second values 1/10 of the first ones
+Alex Papoutsakis okay, explain me why you think so. You have read both manga, until the last chapter, right? I give you my opinion in 5 points, in most objective way i can: 1) PLOT: in Rave the plot is linear e clear, Haru have to find the rave stones, for save the world from Demon Card (the main enemy of the serie), and everything turns around this. FT (and Mashima say this) is about the daily life, like guild-mission-guild-mission... in the first part, and there isn't a thread tha bins one saga to the other. There isn't a base plot until Zeref and Acnologia introduction... then, from the from this point on, Mashima starts to give a plot to his manga. But 200 chapters (2/3 of Rave Master duration) are without connection, or better, each saga could have come in each other order, and it would not change much. But the plot of FT is highly repetitive. What are the reasons behind the most of Fairy Tail arc? An enemy (another guild, dark guild or other) attacks FT members, or it poses a threat, and FT start a war against them. Phantom Lord? Luxus? Edolas? Grimoire Heart on Tenrou? The dragons at the Magic Games? Tartaros? And now, Alvarez with Zeref and the spriggan 12... always the same story, each time a war, but they are not always going to protect the world, only fights for the guild and nakama. 2) DRAWING: Mashima style is good for both manga, and I can't say he draw bad... i prefere Rave style, but here it's all down to personal taste. 3) CHARACTERS: most of FT characters are stereotypes, for example Natsu the hot-head protagonist, or Erza, the girl strong outside, fragile inside... or each villain that is not a real villain, with empathetic past... Okay, also Rave has stereotypes, like Haru or Elie, but Rave was written before these become main stereotypes that we see in every manga today... Rave started in the same period of Naruto, a little time later One Piece, and before Bleach, where these stereotypes weren't still stereotypes... I hope you understand what i mean... But there's another point for the FT characters, the design. Most of their designs are MERELY COPIED by Rave Master characters (and I hate this fact, because Jellal is nothing compared to Sieghart... Cobra is nothing to Shuda, Happy nothing to Plue, etc...), or to other manga, like One Piece (Gildarts is Shanks? the Oracion seis are "little similar" to some shichiibukai). And the worst thing it that Mashima not only copy the designs from Rave to FT, but also name of things or organizations (Oracion Seis?), and also events (Jellal that defeat all the Oracion Seis? Sieghart in Rave did the same thing with the OS, for example). Only BAD COPIES (or most of them). Better in FT are the character's backgrounds, treated with more details for the protagonists. 4) BATTLES AND LOGIC: except for the first... 100 chapters of FT, where there are some good battles, then in this manga there isn't logic!!! Each time, the villain is superior in terms of strenght and power, and the "good ones" were injured a lot... then, they thinks to the nakama, the family, the guild... and they obtain a "miracolous power-up", and win with NO LOGIC! (an example? Erza vs Azuma, the protagonist vs Hades, all battles in Tartaros Arc, Wendy-Sheila vs DiMaria, Luxus vs Wahl, Gajeel vs Bradman... and more). They win always because they are the "good one" and they have to win. In Rave, yes, the are also some victories because "they are the protagonists", but the most of the Rave fights are won with superiority, logic or sacrifice (this thing doesn't exist in FT, because the fairies never die... or, if one of them dies, he/she resurrects randomly in the next chapter... nosense). 5) FANSERVICE: in Rave the fanservice is limited, there is but moderate. Fairy Tail IS FANSERVICE! With this word, I will not point the only nudity scenes... these are only a part of the "fanservice" (Lucy ends up naked in each saga, just an example), but also: the usual speeches (repeated endlessly) about the family, bonds, etc... the chapters covers... the fandom about the couples inside the manga... the power of the emotions and the miracles of the "good ones"... and also the fact that in FT no one of the faries die! Think on it, this manga goes on with wars... but it's possibile that no one (neither lower importat characters, like Macao, Wakaba, Droy, etc..) dies?!!! Oh, no... the fans love that guild, so Mashima makes wars on wars, but no one dies (maybe some villain, maybe), a lot of sense *facepalm*. Or, if one of them dies, then resurrect ONE chapter later (Gray? Gajeel? Juvia?). The first one of the guild that is died is Makarov... AFTER 500 CHAPTERS of wars!!! Logic? No, only fanservice... in Rave there is more and more reliability and consistency. If you had read this all (forgive me for the lenght and my bad english), i think you have undestood what I mean. Except for the point 2 (the drawing), RAVE MASTER IS A LOT BETTER THAN FAIRY TAIL. If you love good ones that wins always with no sense, the same speeches on bonds or what means to be a family, or you are a fan of one of the characters... then you obviously could prefere FT, but these are no valid reasons, they are subjective... This (very long) messagge of main is not made to do polemico, just to talk... in the end, "each to his own taste", I've only explained (in the more objective way possibile) my reasons. Have a nice day.
*This sudden reveal, and the death of the old man who gave Haru his quest, and sword.* Never read Oyasumi (Goodnight) Pun Pun if this made you cry, because that one is *FRIGHTENINGLY tense AND impossibly sad.*
I remembered this. Had a pretty huge impact in the story to see him planned Sieghart's death from the start of symphonia and the journey that lead up to it. Shame he dropped that kind of writing in fairytail.
Honestly, Mashima had huge potential to improve his writing when he started making Fairy Tail and could have made something unique. But no, he aimed for a low hanging fruit and made it with little care and love just so that he can boost his manga's popularity. And turn Fairy tail into what it's known for today, a series full fanservice, cheap asspull and the power of "friendship". Such a shame...
J Truong I think at the end of rave or on an interview he mention that the one thing he did not like about rave master was that it wasn’t flashy, so I imagine that was his goal with fairy tail to work on his flashy ideas and besides hiro mention that for fairy tail ha had planned the characters only and I think that is what people like about the show. And for rave he did the show lot and that is what people like about rave so imagine if this sat down and fully thought about the plot and the characters
I also know that certain things he was pushed to do by his editors. Like one of the editors liked Lisanna’s design so they pushed for her resurrection, hence the Edolas Arc.
Remember when Hiro Mashima didn't puss out on killing off characters, when villains weren't all one-dimentional, when there was a clear set goal that was never forgotten, when future plot points where build up instead of making shit up as the story went on, when heroes didn't win out of convinience and asspulls and when there wasn't a friendship speech every single arc? Rave Master remembers.
+SadTreeButler Yeah.... when he cares more of the history and the plot, and not of the fanservice, and the fans reactions (because if they favourites characters die, they would be sad... so he make them die, and resurrect them the chapter later, or they didn't die at all)
@the Legend people will riot if the main character died. Yes sieg is side character but he is a very important character that is loved by the fans. It takes guts to kill a character like that
@@horaciosi I think Mashima remembers, too. Here's the scene where one of his latest characters finds out what her mom did to her beloved teacher: i.imgur.com/yNPeCn5.jpg
I don't know why so many people think Fairy's Tail is better than Rave Master. Sieg Hart's Death is one of the most iconic death in manga imo. beautiful, sad, so many emotional, pure masterpiece.
Fairy tail also has many iconic deaths, it's just overwritten by the rest of the bad plots. Like Gray's mentor sacrificing her life to keep the demon trapped in ice. Or her daughter sacrificing her life to turn back time. Igneel's death. Wendy's guild that was actually an illusion. I wouldn't say it's better, but you can see the similarities. The first season of the anime is just more iconic. Mostly cause of the emotional music that was played here as well.
Just because ONE scene is better doesn't mean the entire series is better. Fairy Tail just made viewers connect with all of the characters better.... But, this was one of the top anime/manga scenes ever... hands down...
+Drew Kopp Anime should be left alone, it should finish but the direction was far superior to fairy tails fan serviceness. Which is why rave master to me was the best.
Rave Deaths = Meaningful and Sad and permanent. Fairy Tail Fake Deaths = "YEAH RIGHT... he/she's going to be up and alive anyway after 2 or 3 chapters."
Now you say permanent, but if you read all the way to the end like me then you should know better. Also Let died like 3 times through the entirety of the story.
Hey there's nothing wrong with see a difference between a fake and meaningful death. Because every character suffers on the inside from what they eye, hear, smell, touch, and feel with their senses.
Man this death, Shiba Rose, and Gale Glory's deaths are the three saddest deaths in the series. We got to know the three of them and then they die leaving an impact on both the series and the characters.
Jellal isn't bad, he's a great character in his own right. It's just... He isn't THIS. Jellal isn't the issue, he does deserve his popularity. It's simply that Sieghart is just on a whole other level and sadly isn't well known enough.
I always come back to see this, this death is one of the best i ever see in a manga. Mashima pulls a incredible plot twist, he execute the scenes with a perfection. Its hard to believe its the same author of fairy tail. (Sorry my bad english)
Antonio Fuertes I think at the end of rave or on an interview he mention that the one thing he did not like about rave master was that it wasn’t flashy, so I imagine that was his goal with fairy tail to work on his flashy ideas and besides hiro mention that for fairy tail ha had planned the characters only and I think that is what people like about the show. And for rave he did the show lot and that is what people like about rave so imagine if this sat down and fully thought about the plot and the characters
This was the death that made Mashima unable to kill future characters. Seig Hart' death was so heavy that it impacted everyone in the Rave Universe. However, in his sacrifice he gave everyone what they needed to move forward and defeat Demon Card once and for all. Mashima may hate that he killed him off due to how sad his death is, but he couldn't have written it any better. It was masterfully well done. P.S - Perfect choice of BGM by the way. Would have gone great with the actual scene.
Seeing how Fairy tail is proceeding i came to the conclusion that rave is slightly better in the storyline section than fairy tail. Rave had a huge backstory with awesome mysteries and myths. Fairy Tail is a little less fixed story, but both are good. Holy god, osamu tezuka-sama, please send your light and make Rave a whole manga adaptation. Let us pray
@@guy-rk1jjYeah.. honestly it really sucked. When the Mangaka was forced to revive the old man, due to the fan base & Shounen Jump. The whole power system was fked. It had its problems prior to that, but that seemed to be when it really, truly dropped. I’ve nothing against Ecchi, but I prefer a story,
@@the_invincible8494 Did you even read it? lol Because most people, if not all, will agree that if it's about plot twist on shonen manga, Pandora Hearts is the number one answer. I like Rave and this plot twist though, don't misunderstand it.
Even as longtime fan of Rave Master Sieghart death was simple and tragic. Mashima back in the day had the balls to explore alot of dark storytelling elements and had good three dimensional antagonist.
Fairy Tail and Hiro Mashima in general may have gone downhill after the Grand Magic Games arc but Rave Master is still amazing and nothing will ever take that away.
Partly due to this i've been re-reading the entire series, had to order the volumes from amazon since no local bookstore carries it anymore. And I finally read the volume with this scene in it today, vol. 31 if you were wondering, and I could not hold back the tears as I read it. Granted the music in this vid is a guaranteed way to make a waterfall spill from my eyes, but even without it the scene is still extraordinarily powerful, also a bit awkward since I was reading it during my lunch at work.
God, this is why this would always be way better than Fairy Tail. Not any Fairy Tail scenes even with the good OST they had, came close to having emotions and scenes like these. it was always so sub par. Now Rave isn't a great anime that would rival the best of the best, but it was a good enough series to tell a story while also not ruining it.
Rave anime is nothing special, except for the first opening, and it's not complete (hoping for a remake, but because Fairy Tail exists, and it has more and more fanservice, and so it's more popular, I think it'll never come). But yeah, the Rave manga was good... not to compete with top shonen mangas like HxH or JoJo, but a good story with some nice characters, development and twists (like that). Exceedingly better than Fairy Tail, more ripetitive in his schemes, with a tons of fanservice, and a lot of copies from Rave (and other mangas too).
@@TbxB95 With all my respect, Rave is far better than HxH. RaVe is one of the most underrated mangas of all time. It is true that the very first chapters lack the artistic quality that the same manga has after a couple of years working on it (40-70 chapters or so). But after Gale's outcome the manga just gets better in every single aspect. It's a shame the anime stopped in the beggining of the real deal (like Kenichi, good anime, better manga with the best arcs after the anime ended...)
I first knew of Rave from the PS1 game... then to the anime (which disappoint me in a way), so I went to read the manga and damn... definitely one of the best shounen manga in its era.
I can only imagine how scared shitless they would have been if Sieghart suddenly woke up in the midst of their grieving as a walking talking skeleton. Like with all the free time he had during his vigil he figured out some way to become undead so he could just keep going regardless of how old he got, but by the time they meet him again the strain of the years of isolation, monotony, and the state of undeath has affected his mind so drastically that he's gone totally senile and can't remember them anymore. In some ways, that might be even more heart-wrenching, because he might just keep sitting on that rock until the end of the world, not remembering who he is or why he's guarding a grave beyond the fact that he MUST do it.
THEY HAVE TO REMAKE THIS SERIES FROM START TO THE END! SHIT! I REMEMBER CRYING LIKE A CRAZY MAN WHEN THE SKELETON REVEALED TO BE SIEG ALL ALONG! YOHOHOHOHO
The reason this moment hits so hard is that this very place, and this very corpse, were the exact things that we saw so long ago in the Symphonia arc and that first started getting us so engaged in this mystery to begin with. We saw this. We saw all of this, the pendant, the body, the place. We saw, but we didn't understand. And now, all this time later we look at that very same image and it means SO MUCH more.
i dont know why somehow i suddenly remember this scene , and here i am cry again like the first time i read the manga they should remake the anime, Rave Master deserves good anime adaptation
I've been searching on and off for years, hoping i'd finally get closure from this series, after the cancellation of the anime, whilst i was at college over 10 years ago, this was exactly what i was hoping for, this is probably one of the most well written manga's ever created.
Neon Pheonix jellal's ass got crunched to he was ones of the first to die in the fairy tale series what the fuck is this the person who made this anime and fairy tail has some damn problems (no offense) but reincarnation of sieg into jellal then making him die first ? that is so fucked up my dude at least make the side characters die first nobody could give a single fuck about those motherfuckers
Kirito Heragi do ur saying the person who made fairy tail had damn problems?? Are u dumb? They were both made by the same person (Rave+ Fairy Tail) Not to mention he wasn't the first ones to die
Dude.. I havent even watched the anime. I only searched for anime skeleton in order to see the cartoonishly designed ones and then i saw the awesome looking skeleton on a picture and decided to check it out. after watching the scenes from the two episodes 50 ad 51, In worry of thinking the girl was the skeleton because of the necklace i kept researching and find the info on the wikia.. But despite my lack of seeing this.. this show.. It's just heartclenchingly tragic TTOTT How it pains to see this. I feel so sorry for the characters T~T Such a freakishly grand sacrifice.. Someone use a flippin revival spell on that guy! It's just so.. Little watching, big reaction. Sieg.. Such a big and tragic reveal it's hard to take in even for someone as inexperienced as myself.. TT~TT
![Fairy Tail - Dragon Slayer Theme [Extended] Ost](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/JtdBwlGi2Aw/mqdefault.jpg)
The rave master anime needs a remake so badly.
Agreed this was an AMAZING manga
A faithful anime in good quality would be a dream ... so people would stop idolizing Fairy Tail, and could discover and ejoy this masterpiece of serie!
Jellal uses the pseudonym "Siegrain" in the council, but Sieghart has nothing to do with it. They are two different manga, they have no common plot. That pseudonym is just another "reference" to Rave in Fairy Tail...
actually their based in the same world that's y they're so similar, rave is just on a different continent
Sore wa chigau yo This series does not take place in the same universe that is a fan theory they are both very different series fairy tail has a lot of references and similarity's
What makes this scene sadder is that we have seen the skull a previously. We knew someone died and protected something for very very long time. But we never knew it was Sieg all along until this scene. This is my all time favorite death scene in manga. Itachi's comes to the 2nd and Portgas D.Ace's follows behind.
Same here, i only heard about rave master by accident, and had no prior knowledge about thr plot, or characters. So when the Skelton showed up, j thought oh must be a anciet warrior who is still waiting, hope we get too see his backstory, then when thr reveal happend, i lost my shit, cause i was thinking we werr just gonna see sieg be stuck in the past, but thenwe learn who it was.
I still frels sad whatever i see this
I agree
Sieghart... the best character of Rave Master universe... and one of the best of the entire world of anime and manga! His death was at the same time immensely sad and immensely epic ... one of the best things you will ever see in one manga ... rest in peace, immortal hero (i'm still crying... very very nice video)
Yeah he was the best rip
***** Yeah, but it is the same for every character "copied/inspired" from Rave Master to Fairy Tail... no one of the second values 1/10 of the first ones
TbxB95 i still believe that fairy tail is a lot better than rave master overall .
+Alex Papoutsakis okay, explain me why you think so. You have read both manga, until the last chapter, right?
I give you my opinion in 5 points, in most objective way i can:
1) PLOT: in Rave the plot is linear e clear, Haru have to find the rave stones, for save the world from Demon Card (the main enemy of the serie), and everything turns around this.
FT (and Mashima say this) is about the daily life, like guild-mission-guild-mission... in the first part, and there isn't a thread tha bins one saga to the other. There isn't a base plot until Zeref and Acnologia introduction... then, from the from this point on, Mashima starts to give a plot to his manga. But 200 chapters (2/3 of Rave Master duration) are without connection, or better, each saga could have come in each other order, and it would not change much.
But the plot of FT is highly repetitive. What are the reasons behind the most of Fairy Tail arc? An enemy (another guild, dark guild or other) attacks FT members, or it poses a threat, and FT start a war against them. Phantom Lord? Luxus? Edolas? Grimoire Heart on Tenrou? The dragons at the Magic Games? Tartaros? And now, Alvarez with Zeref and the spriggan 12... always the same story, each time a war, but they are not always going to protect the world, only fights for the guild and nakama.
2) DRAWING: Mashima style is good for both manga, and I can't say he draw bad... i prefere Rave style, but here it's all down to personal taste.
3) CHARACTERS: most of FT characters are stereotypes, for example Natsu the hot-head protagonist, or Erza, the girl strong outside, fragile inside... or each villain that is not a real villain, with empathetic past...
Okay, also Rave has stereotypes, like Haru or Elie, but Rave was written before these become main stereotypes that we see in every manga today... Rave started in the same period of Naruto, a little time later One Piece, and before Bleach, where these stereotypes weren't still stereotypes... I hope you understand what i mean...
But there's another point for the FT characters, the design. Most of their designs are MERELY COPIED by Rave Master characters (and I hate this fact, because Jellal is nothing compared to Sieghart... Cobra is nothing to Shuda, Happy nothing to Plue, etc...), or to other manga, like One Piece (Gildarts is Shanks? the Oracion seis are "little similar" to some shichiibukai).
And the worst thing it that Mashima not only copy the designs from Rave to FT, but also name of things or organizations (Oracion Seis?), and also events (Jellal that defeat all the Oracion Seis? Sieghart in Rave did the same thing with the OS, for example). Only BAD COPIES (or most of them).
Better in FT are the character's backgrounds, treated with more details for the protagonists.
4) BATTLES AND LOGIC: except for the first... 100 chapters of FT, where there are some good battles, then in this manga there isn't logic!!! Each time, the villain is superior in terms of strenght and power, and the "good ones" were injured a lot... then, they thinks to the nakama, the family, the guild... and they obtain a "miracolous power-up", and win with NO LOGIC! (an example? Erza vs Azuma, the protagonist vs Hades, all battles in Tartaros Arc, Wendy-Sheila vs DiMaria, Luxus vs Wahl, Gajeel vs Bradman... and more). They win always because they are the "good one" and they have to win.
In Rave, yes, the are also some victories because "they are the protagonists", but the most of the Rave fights are won with superiority, logic or sacrifice (this thing doesn't exist in FT, because the fairies never die... or, if one of them dies, he/she resurrects randomly in the next chapter... nosense).
5) FANSERVICE: in Rave the fanservice is limited, there is but moderate.
Fairy Tail IS FANSERVICE! With this word, I will not point the only nudity scenes... these are only a part of the "fanservice" (Lucy ends up naked in each saga, just an example), but also: the usual speeches (repeated endlessly) about the family, bonds, etc... the chapters covers... the fandom about the couples inside the manga... the power of the emotions and the miracles of the "good ones"... and also the fact that in FT no one of the faries die! Think on it, this manga goes on with wars... but it's possibile that no one (neither lower importat characters, like Macao, Wakaba, Droy, etc..) dies?!!! Oh, no... the fans love that guild, so Mashima makes wars on wars, but no one dies (maybe some villain, maybe), a lot of sense *facepalm*. Or, if one of them dies, then resurrect ONE chapter later (Gray? Gajeel? Juvia?). The first one of the guild that is died is Makarov... AFTER 500 CHAPTERS of wars!!!
Logic? No, only fanservice... in Rave there is more and more reliability and consistency.
If you had read this all (forgive me for the lenght and my bad english), i think you have undestood what I mean. Except for the point 2 (the drawing), RAVE MASTER IS A LOT BETTER THAN FAIRY TAIL.
If you love good ones that wins always with no sense, the same speeches on bonds or what means to be a family, or you are a fan of one of the characters... then you obviously could prefere FT, but these are no valid reasons, they are subjective...
This (very long) messagge of main is not made to do polemico, just to talk... in the end, "each to his own taste", I've only explained (in the more objective way possibile) my reasons.
Have a nice day.
makarov dies in a war
and etc. etc. and etc.
This could've been the best & saddest episode of any anime if Rave Master wasn't cancelled
True
chapter ?
@@Keke.kalonji Chapter 260: Eternal Vow
I hope for a Rave Master anime reboot one day
@@TheWarmachine375 not reboot.But continue from where they left it just like bleach
I cried so hard at this scene.
Me too 😭 T_T😭
2X
*This sudden reveal, and the death of the old man who gave Haru his quest, and sword.*
Never read Oyasumi (Goodnight) Pun Pun if this made you cry, because that one is *FRIGHTENINGLY tense AND impossibly sad.*
chapter?
I remembered this. Had a pretty huge impact in the story to see him planned Sieghart's death from the start of symphonia and the journey that lead up to it. Shame he dropped that kind of writing in fairytail.
Honestly, Mashima had huge potential to improve his writing when he started making Fairy Tail and could have made something unique. But no, he aimed for a low hanging fruit and made it with little care and love just so that he can boost his manga's popularity. And turn Fairy tail into what it's known for today, a series full fanservice, cheap asspull and the power of "friendship". Such a shame...
@@danielonenut1864 think he might of just lost interest in keeping it going but had to do it anyway? I noticed the writing started to dip later on.
J Truong I think at the end of rave or on an interview he mention that the one thing he did not like about rave master was that it wasn’t flashy, so I imagine that was his goal with fairy tail to work on his flashy ideas and besides hiro mention that for fairy tail ha had planned the characters only and I think that is what people like about the show. And for rave he did the show lot and that is what people like about rave so imagine if this sat down and fully thought about the plot and the characters
I also know that certain things he was pushed to do by his editors. Like one of the editors liked Lisanna’s design so they pushed for her resurrection, hence the Edolas Arc.
Fairy tail actually zas that, even pretty epic death scenes if that characters had died.
Dang laxus should have been guildleader
Remember back when Mashima could kill his characters?
Remember when Hiro Mashima didn't puss out on killing off characters, when villains weren't all one-dimentional, when there was a clear set goal that was never forgotten, when future plot points where build up instead of making shit up as the story went on, when heroes didn't win out of convinience and asspulls and when there wasn't a friendship speech every single arc? Rave Master remembers.
+SadTreeButler Yeah.... when he cares more of the history and the plot, and not of the fanservice, and the fans reactions (because if they favourites characters die, they would be sad... so he make them die, and resurrect them the chapter later, or they didn't die at all)
+horaciosi Totally agree, Rave Master is 100 times better than Fanservice Tail
@the Legend people will riot if the main character died. Yes sieg is side character but he is a very important character that is loved by the fans. It takes guts to kill a character like that
@@horaciosi I think Mashima remembers, too. Here's the scene where one of his latest characters finds out what her mom did to her beloved teacher: i.imgur.com/yNPeCn5.jpg
I need this to be redone in anime, even if its only the one episode.
Please...just one...
260 :)
I like your name Lucy Dragneel Heartfillia
With the original seiyuu. They were excellent.
His death was the most tragic the man sat one place and didn’t move a inch for the past 50 years just so these two can be together
To be fair overdrive was going to happend in atleast a year but yeag still a lonv time
Well, he did write those letters
A true knight
This is so sad,I've read the manga but I still ended up crying in halfway through the video.Sieg Hart was incredible and a great character and friend.
I don't know why so many people think Fairy's Tail is better than Rave Master.
Sieg Hart's Death is one of the most iconic death in manga imo. beautiful, sad, so many emotional, pure masterpiece.
Yes u.u
Fairy tail also has many iconic deaths, it's just overwritten by the rest of the bad plots. Like Gray's mentor sacrificing her life to keep the demon trapped in ice. Or her daughter sacrificing her life to turn back time. Igneel's death. Wendy's guild that was actually an illusion. I wouldn't say it's better, but you can see the similarities. The first season of the anime is just more iconic. Mostly cause of the emotional music that was played here as well.
Just because ONE scene is better doesn't mean the entire series is better.
Fairy Tail just made viewers connect with all of the characters better....
But, this was one of the top anime/manga scenes ever... hands down...
@@TheDeathmailwhat the, Rave Master was Hiro best manga, storywise, timeline, plot, sad story, meaningful death, etc
I think the same studio that makes Fairy Tail (A-1 Pictures) should make a new Rave Master anime.
+Drew Kopp I think that the original content maker (Mashima) should try to model more than just the visuals from this onto Fairy Tail.
+joshua Paul so true
I agree the RM anime needs to be remade
+Drew Kopp Anime should be left alone, it should finish but the direction was far superior to fairy tails fan serviceness. Which is why rave master to me was the best.
Its made by the same person who made fairy tail
The Fairy Tail sad theme fits this moment so well.
Facts
We need a group of animation fans who will film this moment :D
Damn, i remember shedding *manly* tears reading this chapter. Man, how time has gone by so quickly.
Only one thing I can say
There are many version of him but none like him .
Whose heart was so strong that it bend the time itself .
Rave Masterpiece >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fanservice Tail
Rave Deaths = Meaningful and Sad and permanent.
Fairy Tail Fake Deaths = "YEAH RIGHT... he/she's going to be up and alive anyway after 2 or 3 chapters."
Paolo Mendoza not to forget Boobs and naked bodies :p
Now you say permanent, but if you read all the way to the end like me then you should know better. Also Let died like 3 times through the entirety of the story.
Hey there's nothing wrong with see a difference between a fake and meaningful death. Because every character suffers on the inside from what they eye, hear, smell, touch, and feel with their senses.
Marsproject11 I mean at the end he should have stayed a dragon but was changed back.
Well, except Haru's death
Cry i cry like a baby when i know how sieg protect elie for 50 years.... Damn i still cry until today....
Man this death, Shiba Rose, and Gale Glory's deaths are the three saddest deaths in the series. We got to know the three of them and then they die leaving an impact on both the series and the characters.
Jegan Reina and King too
@@saint_242 Agreed.
Rave master needs a complete reboot
A lot of things get me choke up, but this is one of few moments that will, without fail, get me to tear up.
this is the first time I ever cried reading a manga, props to Hiro for writing the first manga I ever read.
sieg one of my favorite . cried so much during this chapter. 😭😭😭😭cried even more when he sent out the letters to help haru and the others.
It’s a shame Sieghart name and Character has been overshadowed by Jellal, whenever people see him they call him a Jellal look alike
Jellal isn't bad, he's a great character in his own right. It's just... He isn't THIS.
Jellal isn't the issue, he does deserve his popularity. It's simply that Sieghart is just on a whole other level and sadly isn't well known enough.
One of the best plot twist in manga series. Punched you in the heart..
I always come back to see this, this death is one of the best i ever see in a manga. Mashima pulls a incredible plot twist, he execute the scenes with a perfection. Its hard to believe its the same author of fairy tail. (Sorry my bad english)
Antonio Fuertes I think at the end of rave or on an interview he mention that the one thing he did not like about rave master was that it wasn’t flashy, so I imagine that was his goal with fairy tail to work on his flashy ideas and besides hiro mention that for fairy tail ha had planned the characters only and I think that is what people like about the show. And for rave he did the show lot and that is what people like about rave so imagine if this sat down and fully thought about the plot and the characters
I know I'm here WAYYY late in 2020..
But dude this video takes me back
OST on the back:Fairy Tail Rises
This was the death that made Mashima unable to kill future characters. Seig Hart' death was so heavy that it impacted everyone in the Rave Universe. However, in his sacrifice he gave everyone what they needed to move forward and defeat Demon Card once and for all.
Mashima may hate that he killed him off due to how sad his death is, but he couldn't have written it any better. It was masterfully well done.
P.S - Perfect choice of BGM by the way. Would have gone great with the actual scene.
This 1 chapter.
This 1 character.
Shits on everything in FairyTail.
Sad considering the same person created both.
+53Spawn this death is the reason he doesn't do death much anymore and it affected his writing style
sieg was his favorite character
+53Spawn Rave MAster sucks aswell
MangaOtaku4 Said no one ever. But nice try
+53Spawn haha nice one 👌
+53Spawn Completely agree
Seeing how Fairy tail is proceeding i came to the conclusion that rave is slightly better in the storyline section than fairy tail. Rave had a huge backstory with awesome mysteries and myths. Fairy Tail is a little less fixed story, but both are good. Holy god, osamu tezuka-sama, please send your light and make Rave a whole manga adaptation. Let us pray
What about his new space series? Edens Zero? do you think that will turn out better than Fairy Tail?
Its not slightly its flat out better. Haru's father dying and him finding the photo on the jacket still makes me cry
@@guy-rk1jjYeah.. honestly it really sucked. When the Mangaka was forced to revive the old man, due to the fan base & Shounen Jump.
The whole power system was fked.
It had its problems prior to that, but that seemed to be when it really, truly dropped.
I’ve nothing against Ecchi, but I prefer a story,
OMG The ultimate sacrifice of all time!
Igneel...
+Titan ' nope juvia is
+Purple Champ123 xDDD sure
@@purplechamp1235 no lol
Underrated manga
Best plot twist in Shonnen history
umm.. Pandora Hearts..
@TeguhNugrahaPratama no
@@the_invincible8494 Did you even read it? lol
Because most people, if not all, will agree that if it's about plot twist on shonen manga, Pandora Hearts is the number one answer. I like Rave and this plot twist though, don't misunderstand it.
back when mashima had some balls and actually killed his character without bringing them back to life the next chapter
Why don't you go back in time and prevent him from making Fairy Tail?
@@גיאורטנשטיין no wait not prevent, tell him fairy tail is gonna do great so he actually plans it out like he did with rave master
@@shrekisthebestfranchiseand5032 That works too. Or just tell him what he'll do with it and give him better pointers
Even as longtime fan of Rave Master Sieghart death was simple and tragic.
Mashima back in the day had the balls to explore alot of dark storytelling elements and had good three dimensional antagonist.
Mashima still have balls to kill his characters, check Edens Zero, last main death of character was really sad.
@@svnwukong well he's bringing all of them back now
ive read lots of manga and watched tons of anime but the first time i ever felt goosebumps was from this. if sacrifice is a man, that is sieghart.
J'ai tellement pleuré que mon tome est devenu illisible , ce manga est et sera toujours mon préféré :'(
I remember this being the first manga panels to make me cry… sieghart one of the best written characters in shounen
This makes me tear up every time. I'm SOOOO happy I didn't have this spoiled to me. This story left me shooketh
Fairy Tail and Hiro Mashima in general may have gone downhill after the Grand Magic Games arc but Rave Master is still amazing and nothing will ever take that away.
Partly due to this i've been re-reading the entire series, had to order the volumes from amazon since no local bookstore carries it anymore. And I finally read the volume with this scene in it today, vol. 31 if you were wondering, and I could not hold back the tears as I read it.
Granted the music in this vid is a guaranteed way to make a waterfall spill from my eyes, but even without it the scene is still extraordinarily powerful, also a bit awkward since I was reading it during my lunch at work.
God, this is why this would always be way better than Fairy Tail.
Not any Fairy Tail scenes even with the good OST they had, came close to having emotions and scenes like these. it was always so sub par.
Now Rave isn't a great anime that would rival the best of the best, but it was a good enough series to tell a story while also not ruining it.
Rave anime is nothing special, except for the first opening, and it's not complete (hoping for a remake, but because Fairy Tail exists, and it has more and more fanservice, and so it's more popular, I think it'll never come). But yeah, the Rave manga was good... not to compete with top shonen mangas like HxH or JoJo, but a good story with some nice characters, development and twists (like that). Exceedingly better than Fairy Tail, more ripetitive in his schemes, with a tons of fanservice, and a lot of copies from Rave (and other mangas too).
Rave is dead, but i was happy when he made a OVA of both Fairy Tail and Rave together
Rohan Kishibe and 『Heaven's Door』
Well at least they are not gone forever and that's the best thing about Fairy Tail T_T
@@TbxB95 With all my respect, Rave is far better than HxH. RaVe is one of the most underrated mangas of all time. It is true that the very first chapters lack the artistic quality that the same manga has after a couple of years working on it (40-70 chapters or so). But after Gale's outcome the manga just gets better in every single aspect. It's a shame the anime stopped in the beggining of the real deal (like Kenichi, good anime, better manga with the best arcs after the anime ended...)
What about Ultear sacrifice herself to turnback time to save everyone with cost of his own time (age) ?
I first knew of Rave from the PS1 game... then to the anime (which disappoint me in a way), so I went to read the manga and damn... definitely one of the best shounen manga in its era.
Man How I wish they really do continue the anime.. its gonna be 1 hell of a scene
Siegfried ;-; this is incredibly an emotional scene making me feel empathy for this character.
His name sieghart
I remember that I used to rent Rave Master manga when I was in high school. Good old times, great manga 😁
I can only imagine how scared shitless they would have been if Sieghart suddenly woke up in the midst of their grieving as a walking talking skeleton. Like with all the free time he had during his vigil he figured out some way to become undead so he could just keep going regardless of how old he got, but by the time they meet him again the strain of the years of isolation, monotony, and the state of undeath has affected his mind so drastically that he's gone totally senile and can't remember them anymore. In some ways, that might be even more heart-wrenching, because he might just keep sitting on that rock until the end of the world, not remembering who he is or why he's guarding a grave beyond the fact that he MUST do it.
THEY HAVE TO REMAKE THIS SERIES FROM START TO THE END!
SHIT! I REMEMBER CRYING LIKE A CRAZY MAN WHEN THE SKELETON REVEALED TO BE SIEG ALL ALONG!
YOHOHOHOHO
And the original Japanese voice actors should do the roles. They were perfect.
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I just finished Rave Master yesterday and this moment hit me. I almost cried but I had to pause for like 2 minutes, hands in my face to take it in
Am I the only one who nearly cried at this moment...?
No, I don't even know their backstory and their name and I also nearly cried.
Watch king This video made my eyes heavy with is rare for me
the saddest plot twist in the history of manga
The reason this moment hits so hard is that this very place, and this very corpse, were the exact things that we saw so long ago in the Symphonia arc and that first started getting us so engaged in this mystery to begin with.
We saw this. We saw all of this, the pendant, the body, the place.
We saw, but we didn't understand. And now, all this time later we look at that very same image and it means SO MUCH more.
i dont know why somehow i suddenly remember this scene , and here i am cry again like the first time i read the manga
they should remake the anime, Rave Master deserves good anime adaptation
Sieghart, shiba, gale, so many emotional moment, thats why its a masterpiece
Fairy tail music in background
Ah, I remember this, have completed edition of rave master and cried like a true man at this scene. Sadly my grandmother sold all my manga lmao ;-;
No death in Fairy Tail tops this
Simon died in the tower of heaven arc, granted not on this level but still pretty fucking sad.
Marsproject11 exactly not in this level
Duh, Simon is not a fairy tail member.
Marsproject11 simon was not a fairy tail member......
In the series not in the fairy tail guild or as member. lol
ok... no tenia porque recordar esto, pero no pude evitar volver a verlo... llorare en una esquina T-T
I still got goosebumps
I've been searching on and off for years, hoping i'd finally get closure from this series, after the cancellation of the anime, whilst i was at college over 10 years ago, this was exactly what i was hoping for, this is probably one of the most well written manga's ever created.
the fairy tail background music ties the video together *_*
This one scene was everything
Why Just some guy without a mustache?Why!?😭
I would pray for a good rave master adaptation
one of the saddest scenes in anime that i've ever read..
seigheart's ghost was at an OVA of fairy tail
Roger Angielo Atenta which and where?
This sence hit me so hard
And just imagine this sence animated
Even you know this but still crying watching this why?
That why rave master is masterpiece
right after rave master mashima created jellal and regretted killing off seighart
This Scene>>>All Fairy Tail Scene
Never watched rave master still this made me cry
the sad scene.. sieg protect ellie 50 years.
sad is best character in raveaster..
So the whole time That guy without a Mustache scroll thru and commenting on TH-cam videos because he was waiting for Elie ha. Interesting
I never read Rave Master, this just pops up now I'm spoiled 😂. Didn't stop me from getting goosebumps though.
first part of it I thought It was kinda boring
now
*crying* I was totally wrong...
I even see this serie, but im crying TnT
It still makes me cry until to this day and then shakuma destroys his bones
No eres macho sino lloras cuando saben que es Sieghart el que esta sentado hay
Ok, they really have to make a reboot rave master.
I don't even know the context and i cried somehow
Don't worry, he got reincarnated as Jellal in Fairy Tail :D
Neon Pheonix jellal's ass got crunched to he was ones of the first to die in the fairy tale series what the fuck is this the person who made this anime and fairy tail has some damn problems (no offense) but reincarnation of sieg into jellal then making him die first ? that is so fucked up my dude at least make the side characters die first nobody could give a single fuck about those motherfuckers
Kirito Heragi do ur saying the person who made fairy tail had damn problems??
Are u dumb?
They were both made by the same person (Rave+ Fairy Tail)
Not to mention he wasn't the first ones to die
Kirito Heragi he didnt even die first (jellal).
So dont get made at something you cant even get right at
Kirito Heragi Jellal didn’t die and before you say something like someone dying you need to watch more episodes of 8t to see if they actually died
Nope if you chose someone to it Mystogan was the one he reincarnated into that dude was awesome
I dont know this manga but this make me cry
Its called rave masters. Its made by the same guy who wrote fairy tail (its actually his first one before fairy tail.)
I cried so much
Damn I cried everytime when I come here to watch Sieghart's death q-q
Like this kind of death. Not lost in battle but something else that link ppl across time.
THAT'S IT! I'M READING IT AGAIN!
A con esta parte llore 😢😭 ¡sieghart!
T_T The saddest death of all time T_T
That part was fucking amazing when i read that
Rave manga + FT soundtrack... what more could you wish for?
Mashima always create masterpiece, i love both his manga
Dude.. I havent even watched the anime. I only searched for anime skeleton in order to see the cartoonishly designed ones and then i saw the awesome looking skeleton on a picture and decided to check it out. after watching the scenes from the two episodes 50 ad 51, In worry of thinking the girl was the skeleton because of the necklace i kept researching and find the info on the wikia..
But despite my lack of seeing this.. this show.. It's just heartclenchingly tragic TTOTT
How it pains to see this. I feel so sorry for the characters T~T Such a freakishly grand sacrifice.. Someone use a flippin revival spell on that guy! It's just so..
Little watching, big reaction. Sieg.. Such a big and tragic reveal it's hard to take in even for someone as inexperienced as myself.. TT~TT
A Noble sacrifice to save his Guild members
Best. manga. chapter. ever.
casi llore con esa parte
First time that I met this blone i scare then I know about it I cry for this
song?
es imposible de superar las muertes de rave master