INVASIVE ZEBRA MUSSELS on MARIMO MOSS Balls: What's the Latest? - Ep. 235
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- In February 2021, a pet shop in Washington state sounded the alarm on a small mollusk found on a marimo moss ball-the popular, velvety green balls of algae that are often sold in plant shops, pet shops, and aquarium shops around the world. It turns out this seemingly insignificant bivalve was the invasive zebra mussel, which has already transformed much of the waterways in the United States.
Rick Boatner of the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife Service got the memo and began inspecting marimo moss balls in his state and found that they were also infected. It turns out a distributor in the Ukraine had sold infected moss balls and the zebra mussels have now been found in 46 states.
If you've purchased marimo moss balls after February 1, 2021, the US Fish and Wildlife Service is recommending to destroy and properly dispose of your marimo moss balls to ensure they do not contaminate waterways.
For more information on this, please visit the US FWS site at: www.fws.gov/fisheries/ans/zeb...
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I don't kill my marimo moss ball!!!
Good message!
As a boat owner, there are just too many people who are not being responsible with this species.
ahhhh zebra mussels got into the austin, tx water supply a year or two ago and we had a boil notice for weeks. SO GROSS. thanks for spreading awareness queen!
Holy cow! Who would've thought? Thanks for sending awareness.
I'm SO happy plant youtubers are starting to mention this! If you want a fuzzy, lumpy houseplant a good replacement for marimo is pillow moss! Easy care, super fuzzy! You can also buy 4-5 large clumps for around the price you would buy a jar of marimo.
Dunno poaching pillow moss is a problem too.
@@tic857 True. Maybe other species of moss would work better,,,
Times like these I'm thankful for Australia's tight biosecurity import laws.
But we have moss balls here?
And for that I have to live in a country full of dangerous spiders ,no whay 😤
you guys lost to ostroaches and sended free ivasive species like rabbits
Hi Summer! This is Holly (Tunkhannock, PA Holly). Thanks so much for sharing this important topic. I work in a federal science center and my coworkers are in charge of mapping invasives throughout the entire US. They helped raise the alarm back in the winter about this. But it's SO important that plant folks share the info since so many people have them. I can only hope that the aquarium trade hobbyist are doing the same.
So glad there were some early alarm bells and that you've been on the frontline of this. There's been significant discussion about this online, luckily, but always good to get more out and some updates on status. I hope the waterbodies of the Pacific Northwest continues to stay zebra mussel free, cuz I know that's not the case in most of the U.S.
Thanks for all you guys do holly!!! That field has to be stressful!
I live in Oregon and last weekend I started to see Marimo Moss Balls being sold and even a featured item at some plant shops, in particular Dennis 7 Dees in Lake Oswego. When I saw that I thought maybe this zebra mussle situation was over...good to know it's not! Even if they are privately distributed and thiers may not have them, I feel like they should at least address it.
I live right on Lake Erie. I remember when the zebra muscles took over the Lake in the 80s. It's horrible. They are everywhere destroying everything.
Look up what zebra mussels have done in the Great Lakes. It's unbelievable how such a tiny creature can cause such destruction.
I am always glad to see the people in our community be responsible. Thank You for explaining why and what this is about. Please keep us informed on ideas like this.
Yes, girl. Thank you! I appreciate a lot the fact that you bring awareness on environnemental issues. That's great! We all love plants and decorating our houses with green ...stuff, plants, algae, whatever, but it's important to be aware and make conscious choices about our purchases. I first heard about zebra mussels when I was studying terminology of natural invasions for my thesis in french. It's good that people know this things. Hope we'll see more of this kind of info
I didn't even know about these moss ball. Thank you Summer for enlightening us on such important matters. Will be keeping an extra eye open.
Wow, this is the first time I hear about the Zebra mussels and the moss balls. I had no idea they existed. I thought moss was moss. Also, I did not know how harmful they are to the environment and us. Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, we have one more thing to worry about : (
I know...i want to take kids out of public school but don't have an option, politics are crazy, people are crazy..... now calm nature....
They're actually algae not moss 🤗
I live in Portland, Oregon, and if I didn’t watch this video probably wouldn’t have find out about the problem with zebra mussels and moss balls. So important to spread this message through different avenues so it gets to as many people as possible. Thank you Summer for doing so!
Who else heard about this from Harli G?
So glad other folks are reporting on this.
Thanks for getting him to discuss this!
Love this episode! Thanks for spreading awareness about invasive species!
Wow what a great message, I had no idea! Used to have some beautiful moss balls when I had an aquarium collection. I did buy some mosses from another country about 6 or 7 years ago that US customs seized, I got an empty package. I wasn't too mad because I figured they probably had a good reason. Now I have learned to take (small!) pieces of my native mosses from my yard if I need any for terrariums :)
Forbidden fluff balls 😞😭 that is a shame, thank you for sharing
Second subscribed video I’ve seen on this subject. Thank you so much for sharing! 💚💚💚
I see more and more plants at the house with each video 🤣
Thank you for creating and sharing this video and information!
Hi Summer! Great information to help pass on to everyone. I live in Idaho and had heard about it on the news, then watched Harli G's video on it earlier. It's crazy how things like this can happen that can be so destructive. We've known about the mussels, but I didn't recall the name. Before you can go into Oregon waters with a boat you have to have it inspected and a sticker put on the boat saying it was inspected for mussels. Thank you for doing the interview with Rick Boatner of the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife Service. That was very interesting and informative. And, thank you so much for sharing this!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching and adding more input on this as well!
Boatner... what an appropriate name 😆
When your name matches your job. One of the first things I thought of when I thought about interviewing him :)
I emailed you about this when I first found out, and whether or not that had an effect on you creating this video I'm thrilled that you are able to use your platform to do so.
Thank you! I used to see these advertised as great companion plants for Betta fish on Amazon ca., a couple of years ago, my friend bought one.
It seems like such a small thing to just throw dirty water into the sink or toilet, word needs to get out!
Very informative, and thanks for bringing it to our attention.
I have marimo moss balls but I’ve had them for about 2 years. Thank goodness I’ve never seen any mussel activity. I don’t think I would have dumped them down my drain because we have a septic system, but you never know with me and I’m not sure they would live in a septic system but they might have stuck to the pipes that lead to the septic tank. Who knows,I don’t but it seems it’s always something invading us. I did however get some tree frog eggs in a bunch of water plants last year, I raised them and they’re happily serenading me this year. I sure hope they’re not the Cuban tree frogs. I’m going to have to look that one up, but I don’t think they could survive our winters. I got some more in this years batch of pond plants 😊💚🙃
Loving this relevant content.
OMG thank goodness it's only for recent moss balls! I have ten big ones living in various decorative vases in my house, I've had them for so long and I could never kill them. Thankfully mine were purchased in 2001.
Wow Summer! This is so shocking to hear. I love Marimo moss balls and had no idea this was happening. I really wanted to get a few more for my collection but I'll have to do some more research on it. This is so crazy.. So much is happening all over the world with pollution and the water ways getting destroyed by nutrients, garbage, medication and bad bacteria. It's really disturbing how my county doesn't recycle a single thing (I know it doesn't really have anything to do with this, but it breaks my heart to see that people aren't being mindful of the damage were doing all over the world). We can make a difference if we make the change.. Thank you for letting us know about this.. your time, knowledge and research is very much appreciated.
Moss balls sounds like a nightmare 😯thanks for the update. Happy growing.
i hope we can put systems in place to inspect plants and wildlife entering countries around the world.
edit: I think the best thing to do in the US is to introduce gene drives into the equation. make it so that a few zebra mussels introduced all produce male offspring so that they die off in the U.S. the unfortunate thing about gene drives is we have to monitor them heavily and make sure no one takes edited organisms and introduces them into native populations.
hi Summer, thank you for this video. I had thought about getting a moss ball previously, but I have been hearing about this problem, so no way would I get one now, thanks for posting this.
Thanks for sharing 😊
Good thing i have my mossballs since 1 year and live in germany where this never happened so far😥
I know a lot of people use dips and quarantine their plants before putting their plants in their aquarium/pond. It would have been nice if you had talked about how effective those techniques could be against the zebra mussles.
Fascinating! 🔥🔥🔥
Do an update. Moss Balls are fine now. You can now get them again.
Are they ok now? I want to buy one
Wish I could tag @Harli G here and tell all her haters under that video to back off.
This is such an interesting video! 😄
why do they destroy the balls rather then quarantine them? ?
You need to rely on the honor system that people will go through an actual quarantine period. The mussel larvae are too small to see with the naked eye and will go down the drain if people are not treating their water well
You can keep them, just don't pour the used water down the drain. Instead pour the water in a bucket outside and let the sun evaporate it, or if you live in an arid desert like I do, pour the water directly on the hot street. No mussel or aquatic life can survive that lol. 😂
Great vlog! I hope people take this issue seriously. The treatment of maritime water ballast discharge in closed waters is still politically debated here in Canada.
I love how we humans worry about "invasive species". The irony...
Honestly. We as humans are an invasive species, especially with displacing native wildlife...
@@ladystardust9707 that's why its ironic
Azola and some other plants in Anzali port lagoon, raccoon Mazandaran of Iran, ants in violinist crabs iland, and gorse(?) in Europe, and creeping Charlie in the state from Europe... The list goes on and on because some people wanted to make easy quick money. Stay alert about what you are introducing to the ecosystem.
I love moss! You have no idea how much I love it. But I am aware of becoming dangerous in ecosystems. Anzali ports Lagoon is infected by many different plants and it is dying. Please be careful, this is not a joke. If some parts of the ecosystem die it will kill any other parts. It is like body parts, if a liver dies other body parts will struggle and it is a high risk of never going back to normal again. Read about Anzali port lagoon and other lagoons that are dying.
I know you care, I love you all. 💯💋❤
Zebra mussels are the absolute worst. Not only are they invasive, but they are RAZOR SHARP. Swim shoes are absolutely necessary while in a lake that’s infested. I’ve cut my feet more times than I can count!
Shout out to all my fellow Midwesterners who know the pain of slicing your foot open on one of these!
I have some experience with treating this in an aquarium setting: if you happen to get these mussels into your personal home aquarium, I would recommend getting pea puffers or some other small pufferfish, like Amazon, African, peacock, etc.; the bigger the pufferfish, the sharper the beak; so the better they'll handle the mussels. They require shelled prey, really. Pea puffers are good at getting the smaller snails & mollusks, but they lack the ever-growing teeth of larger puffers, so can't really chow down on TOO big of shells (unless the bivalve is open & exposed). Still effective, especially on snails, and cute and tiny. But a lil bitchy sometimes. lol 😂 Like, they're not antisocial but then again, they aren't particularly needy of attention, either.
So yeah, they not only target snails & freshwater limpets (which also can show up!), but yes, I've seen them devour the little zebra mussels in my tank. Luckily only had a few; I had no idea, at the time, what they were or where they came from. I had a moss ball given to me, years ago; I already had a few tanks going, at that time, so I just happened to place the moss in my puffers' tank. That was lucky I suppose. Thank God it wasn't my 60g tank. Because puffers are rather "unique", it's not an option for everyone; they are known to be nippy to each other, and bossy to other fish. Loaches and botias are another option, but then again, some of them are also boisterous or are bossy as hell. Yo-Yo, dwarf chain, skunk, clown, angelicus, & zebra botias all have that downward-sloped snout, which is evolved for eating shelled prey. Not so for the more docile species, like the dojo, horse-faced or kuhli loaches; they look like little otters or seals, with whiskers, and they use those for filtering worms in the sand and soil... not cracking shells or digging into snails. And they're better as community fish... so downward nose, eats shells! Whiskers & doggy face, community fish!
...so this is only really a last resort to invest in if you're able to. Maybe relocate fish you currently have, if you have another tank. Then set the infested one up for puffers. I find the puffers with their beaks to really go to town on shellfish and mollusks. I even fed them small clams from the Asian market.
I’ll protect mine like they’re Crown Jewels
I guess just dispose of their water properly… “disposing” of the moss balls seems like overkill
You're fine, just pour their used water on a gravel driveway or in a bucket where the sun can evaporate it.
Can you do a video on Japanese knotweed please? its everywhere!
might be something for Summer Rayne over at Flock Finger Lakes!
They are found here in Canada as well.
Just hearing about this now in 2024. Guessing mine are fine since I don’t have mussels in the tank. 🤦♀️
Ms.Oakes, If I have marimo. An wish to change the water. Should I decontaminate my water? Bought mine way before Covid-19. Never seen a muscle.. I purchased from The Sill in Manhattan..
Im in Washington. Fish and game has been going pet store to pet store investigating and collecting contaminated stock.
Good to know that each state agency is being really proactive about it.
I'm glad they are doing something about it. I live in Idaho but I live close to spokane washington so I go over there to buy plants sometimes and about a month ago was the first time I saw marimo being sold in a store there. I bought mine off the internet 4 years ago before they became as popular as they are now, and mine are the size of soft balls now. I was shocked at how much they were selling a teeny tiny little ones for.
Can't bring myself to get rid of little Mo. Thankfully, he is in his own little bowl. I've been keeping an eye on him since I heard- the recommendation is to quarantine and look for any sign of mussels for six months after purchase. I've been boiling his water before disposal since I heard. So far, nothing, and I'm hoping that nothing shows up! I'll probably keep watching him for longer than the recommended six months just to be safe.
Is it fine if the water being dumped through dumpster without decontamination as long as it's not the drain or anywhere aquatic? and is it fine if there is skin contact with the water and the marimo?
I was pretty disappointed with how the moss ball thing went. But I happily can exclude them from my aquarium hobby for the sake of my beloved texas waterways.
Hope we can still enjoing the Moss balls. :(
it looks like you have one on the right side of your top
Just curious, have you ever seen a documentary called How To Grow A Planet?
we have round and monkey gobies natively here and they are also invasive with zebra mussels in the states, and predate on them so heavily they've been reversing the damage caused by them in some places (though while eating all sorts of native fish eggs sadly), do you think we'd have much trouble with this problem in turkey? and can't you just change the water in your marimo moss ball containers by watering your compost bin or pots with it, rather than dumping it down the drain?
That's exactly what I did .
But didn't know... had it for years but paniced and tossed it it actually made a baby .I had 3 .
Moss balls were never the problem though. People dumping anything aquarium related into water sources is the problem.
I am still looking to find moss balls. It's easy enough to contain the problem lol. Get moss ball. Quarantine moss ball. Treat with some copper. oh ummm lets see....dont dump your aquarium in the local waterways.
I hope they can get this under control and we can enjoy moss balls again. I love mine.
I got a bowl of three balls just before this. They are very interesting and I'm enjoying mine.
@@marypolk9820 yes, glad I bought mine back in spring 2020! Had to put them up on a shelf though, because my cats liked fishing them out of the bowls.
@@marypolk9820 It isn't good if only disposing through the drain and anywhere aquatic?
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Keep growing
Please make video on caladium
Eek I just purchased two marimo moss balls last weekend 😳
Same.What did you do to your moss balls?
Hi Summer, I haven’t watched this all the way through yet. But I have this insecticide (based on fermented fungee) : conserve garden by Edialux. Which kills thrips and was the only way to get rid of them for me. The warning on this was though that it can be very harmful for watercreatures, could this be a way to kill the zebramussels and keep your mossballs alive? The only thing then is you cannot just throw the water down the sink: because it would do harm in other ways.. Just a thought..
I'm not familiar with Marimo moss balls, and don't own any, but I did see that Harli G recently uploaded a video about why she was destroying them for this exact reason.
Can a moss ball survive under 2 weeks of delivery without water?
Are they safe now?
Is it safe to have them now?
Are all moss balls considered Marino? I just got one recently in Washington, and I did ask and made sure that they were tested and safe. I would like to get more but now I’m afraid.
You could get more but put them in a small quarantine tank to watch for a month or so. It sounds like you would be ok as long as you disinfect the water prior to disposal
There are others, like Vesicularia dubyana (Java moss) that are sold that are not marimo moss balls. In regards to testing, make sure it's a governmental-certified tests. When I talked to Rick, he was saying that some places were just providing 'lip service' and weren't really doing proper testing (or in some cases, governments don't have testing in place yet, so put temporary bans on marimo moss balls). Here's more from your state: wdfw.wa.gov/news/state-asks-public-inspect-aquarium-moss-and-prevent-movement-invasive-mussels
@@WiscoMel It is not healthy to do as long as it is disposed through the drain or anywhere aquatic only?
@@norazulkifli2517 Aquarium water in general should not be disposed of in any manner where it can incorporate into natural waterways. I never put mine down the drain. I pour it on my houseplants and back garden plants. That way it can’t transfer bacteria, pests or invasive aquatic plant material to local rivers and swamps.
zorro?? is that you?
I got mine early January ‘21… I think I’m ok?
I swear these mussels better be eatable so people can just over harvest them for food
Watching Harli G have to destroy her Merimo while trying not to cry was heartbreaking. :(
I watched Harli G destroy her moss balls.. so sad 😢
You moved? This is not the beautiful garden you had in your home.
I haven't moved but my friends and I went in on some land to live communally. That's the new channel! th-cam.com/users/flockfingerlakes
Marimo is not really a moss its an algea
Go after the mussels...free food?
Can you please tell should they be avoided even in India?
Just the thought of having to destroy Marimo is so sad... If I was in that situation, of having bought new Marimo this year, I think I'd sooner allow the mussels to live in my aquarium than destroy the Marimo they rode in on (even if it meant having to bleach all the water I remove during water changes)
What is the purpose of these moss balls anyway?
It's just a quirky house/aquarium plant. It pretty much occurs naturally in barely a handful of places on earth. In Japan they represent longevity luck and love
what's the purpose of any houseplant...?
@@horace6851 but its not like a houseplant really. It doesn't grow and trail or climb or bloom or anything useful. I don't mean to be negative but I just don't see the point of having one.
@@crystalakers9817 it grows in size and one does need to take care for it appropriately, otherwise it will die. Just like any other houseplant.
Is this still going on? I just ordered some on Amazon 😬
I just got one now.
i think you should be fine if you boil the water before dumping it down the sink
You're fine, just don't pour the water down the drain. What I do is pour it in a bucket and let the sun evaporate it. If you live in the desert like me, just pour it on a cactus, they'll love it and mussel babies will die instantly.
Don't kill moss ball
Welcome to the series, how we humans are destroying all ecosistems chapter 10000,today our special guest is the zebra mussel , at last in the earth seems luke only will remain the animals that serve us for food, cocroaches and catfishes, i live in italy.. and you cant even see sparrows.. the most common of the birds some time ago... We are doing so good humans
I agree ! We humans are destroying all ecosystems. For example... the bee population is quickly dying, bee clubs are teaching beekeepers to use pesticides and antibiotics in the hive to kill the varrio mite. Instead of letting nature take care of this problem on its own , people have Intervened. So our bee populations are now dwindling because of pesticide use while the wasp and hornet populations are thriving .
Good job 👍
I live for the moment in something like a coutryside with rivers everywhere , all seems so pure but bobody see there are almost not birds or insects, i see only crows, some pigeons...the only living in the river the reintroduced trouts, and one invasive species from southamerica..and people doesnt realize...
ALGAE ARE TECHNICALLY PLANTS! THEY ARE NOT "HIGHER PLANTS" BUT PLEASE STOP SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT PLANTS
Classifications have been going back-and-forth over the years with algae. Green algae were in, then they were out, and then they were in the Plant Kingdom again. Brown and red algae were excluded. So the "undetermined" nature of their classification has provided an interesting loop hole in regulation.
@@summerrayneoakes I accept your right to interpret classifications and use the definition you agree with the most. I personally disagree that algae are not plants. They definitely are not higher plants, but they are plants nonetheless.
The only point of contention I have is, whether aphotosynthetic algae have secondarily lost chloroplasts - making them plants that cannot photosynthesise, much like many obligate parasitic higher plants; or, whether the aphotosynthetic algae represent a branching of the phylogeny that never incorporated chloroplasts in the first place - in which case I suppose we just have to consider algae as their own weird thingy, with some crazy ancient branches.
I mean no offense, hope you haven't taken any. I love your content, thank you for your reply :)
@@MrTheWaterbear You meant no offense, your tone did though. :)
for a moment, i thought she was talking about ZORO of One Piece. sanji will be very proud.
As always thank you for sharing the knowledge. I completely respect all who are within this group of researchers but I must voice my opinion too…. Everything on this beautiful heavenly earth is here for a reason wether to be understood or not it has a purpose. I think more concern should be directed to more important things such as the children starving and homeless among so many other things. Mother Earth has been doing just well taking care of her home as she’s been for billions of years that we shouldn’t even question the land the seas or the heavens. Everything is in relation to everything. When the bird is alive it eats the ants, when the bird dies the ants eat the bird. Namaste to you and all life including the four legged without a voice. 💙🌎🕉🙏
You have to be kidding me. The selfishness. The mental gymnastics. All to justify selfish desire to collect moss balls.
can’t we just throw the water on a floor outside so the water can just evaporate instead?
I think if everyone starts doing that, water may find its way to the sewage. I’m not an expert tho!
If you throw the water outside the muscles will seep into the sewage system. Therefore the environment will be contaminated with muscles.
Also, what is absorbed into the ground. The earth is one big eco system. Everything has it's place and is used in some way.
The water is not only evaporated. Please don't get a moss ball.
You have to be careful with stormwater runoff. As we know in the environment, there is no "away".
you can just put some bleach in it if it's from aquarium or boil it if it's a small bowl with balls. It's not such a big deal, just remember not to dump it directly into sewage.
Wouldn’t the Muscles grow in your tank if it they were there?
Why the bleach ? If you throw them out in the sun won’t they dry up an die?
@@sherryporsch9349 yep; that is a good way as well.
Is this terrorists by moss?
well technically it's not a moss, it's an algae.
💞✨
Is the Ukraine doing anything as it's the place of origin?
Wow, you did look like you've got a good tan on your face.
That's from working outside @FlockFingerLakes
I like you i 'm sri lankan girl
... or you can just put the moss balls in your compost or in the dirt far away from any body if water.
I would just follow the recommendations of the Fish and Wildlife Service for proper disposal though. You just never want to take the chance of water seeping through and carrying them through to some nearby waterbody; or a situation, like we've been having, which is constant rain and flash flood warnings-and things being easily "carried off". Small chance, but still a chance.
Hmm why not just put in the fridge for a day?
Estas muy buena
Wondering why activists didn’t yet came up with :
„No borders for plants“, „Don’t be a plant racixt“…. 🤣