Moss Balls Getting Banned? What You NEED To Know

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  • @AQUAPROS
    @AQUAPROS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Learn more about the problem: www.fws.gov/fisheries/ANS/zebra-mussel-disposal.html

    • @aidensnew8562
      @aidensnew8562 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i actually bought this brand a few months ago.......... well...

    • @joannedigirolamo5645
      @joannedigirolamo5645 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would love to have one with mussels on it for my figure 8 puffers!!!

    • @yahirdavion7479
      @yahirdavion7479 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @judahcallum8504
      @judahcallum8504 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Yahir Davion yea, been watching on Flixzone} for months myself :D

    • @jadbowen4652
      @jadbowen4652 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Yahir Davion Yup, I've been using flixzone} for since november myself =)

  • @colemat
    @colemat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +445

    Bought a moss ball from a MN petco around 6 months ago, when I got home I noticed it had a zebra mussel on it. I know how invasive they are so I destroyed the mussel and did a thorough inspection of the ball before I added it to my tank. I returned to petco the following day and told the store clerk about the mussel and they literally said, "Oh, bonus!" This problem has been going on for a while and I am glad it is being addressed

    • @sxcgremlinkyo119
      @sxcgremlinkyo119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      What do they mean by “oh bonus”

    • @1905Pauli
      @1905Pauli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      @@sxcgremlinkyo119 free snail/mussel without extra payment. That's implements that you should be happy which you are clearly not with a zebra mussel.

    • @driftingnumja84
      @driftingnumja84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      oH bOnUs

    • @KnobTheGoblin
      @KnobTheGoblin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Alot of people are unaware of what these can do. When i was in Michigan everyone new about them. Were I moved to now I wouldn't blame Joe Bob the 18yo at petco for not understanding the issue with it until its explained to them.

    • @kaitokisser_
      @kaitokisser_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      That's like going to a furniture store saying their couch gave you roaches and them saying "oh, bonus!"

  • @cbcluckyii4042
    @cbcluckyii4042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +833

    I bet the hardcore hobbyists are taking this mossball pandemic more seriously than the covid one

    • @justinmo86
      @justinmo86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Zebra mussels have been isolated, reproduced, and the offspring from the isolated mussel behaves identical to the parent.
      Can’t say that with any virus

    • @royr2854
      @royr2854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@justinmo86 99% recovery rate...

    • @moonorchid9242
      @moonorchid9242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@royr2854 1. Not relevant to what was said
      2. Closer to 97% (yes, it makes a difference)
      3. Rest in Peace to the almost 3million people that make up the fatal 3% & condolences to their families (and lets not even mention the “recovered” ones that will have lifelong health issues and disabilities from their ‘recoveries’
      @jose you’re right, but for the hobby they’re even more protective of their fooshies than themselves. So they would still take the mussle invasion more seriously lol

    • @jeffreyklima7612
      @jeffreyklima7612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@moonorchid9242 lifelong health issues? Don't think so...

    • @moonorchid9242
      @moonorchid9242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@jeffreyklima7612 yeah... a virus that attacks the respiratory and cardiovascular systems... nothing could possible go wrong, right? 🙄

  • @dkane85
    @dkane85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    Wow...well that explains why I couldn’t find any moss balls last week when I was searching to buy some for my tank

    • @IrieRogue
      @IrieRogue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same!

    • @rileys.6845
      @rileys.6845 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same!

    • @kennykenny4226
      @kennykenny4226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep owned one that died in the process of moving and I finally went to go get new ones and a lot more of them too and couldn’t find aby

    • @kennykenny4226
      @kennykenny4226 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any-*

    • @snacky-cp8hm
      @snacky-cp8hm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pro tip go on ebay loads of fish to buy
      You can get moss balls too
      You can also get crickets or meal worms for your pets

  • @bradyhill2136
    @bradyhill2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    Wow this really could be a main contributing factor as to why zebra mussels are such a widespread problem because there’s no way this hasn’t been happening for a long time.

    • @MrMyKidd
      @MrMyKidd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Some time ago I read that they are suspected to have showed up as a result of large export cargo ships dumping hundreds of gallons of ballast water after delivering their goods.

    • @bizzzzzzle
      @bizzzzzzle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No, it’s from ships ballast water and small boats not washed properly before going to another body of water.

    • @bradyhill2136
      @bradyhill2136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bizzzzzzle yes obviously that’s one of the biggest factors same with waders and boots. I’m just saying that this could definitely be another large contributor

  • @suspower
    @suspower 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Imagine being the law enforcement officer in charge of the infamous "Moss balls" case. He'll be famous at the station

    • @berthaday3473
      @berthaday3473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ball inspector at your service

  • @midnamagic2678
    @midnamagic2678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    I was actually at the pet store the other day and asked about moss balls, as I was getting the supplies to start a new tank (first one with live plants instead of plastic)
    And they told me about this. I was so disappointed at first because of not being able to get moss balls.
    Then I was panicking because they said it was zebra muscles.
    I hope a lot of people see this video, especially those who need to.

  • @EelKatWendyCAllen
    @EelKatWendyCAllen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    About a month ago, I was in the South Portland, Maine PetCo to get some supplies, and I noticed all their live plant tanks were roped off and had "not for sale - quarantine" signs on them, and all their shelves of moss ball cups and plants in plastic sleeves were wrapped up and also had signs.
    I asked the guy who works there what was going on, and he said, state officials had come in and said all the plants had to be inspected because of suspected invasive snail infestation. He didn't know much about it other than every tank with live plants had to be put under quarantine until those tanks had been inspected and confirmed free of the snails.
    He didn't say what type of snails it was that they were looking for, but I wonder if it was these zebra mussels? Seems like it must be since it just happened same time as all this.

    • @EmmtheOriginallyLegal1andOnly
      @EmmtheOriginallyLegal1andOnly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here about 10 days ago.

    • @mr-mrsknow-it-all2998
      @mr-mrsknow-it-all2998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Only in America lol. America don't even have black currant fruit missing out on things like Ribena drink, because it kills your pine trees. We just chose black currant and chopped down our pine trees lol

    • @GooberThe4th
      @GooberThe4th 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@mr-mrsknow-it-all2998 it’s better to miss out on something than to let a possible invasive species wreak havoc on the ecosystem and possibly destroy crops and therefore some impacts on the economy and availability of food for certain people.

    • @christophergomez872
      @christophergomez872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mr-mrsknow-it-all2998 black current was banned in 1911 the logging industry (more profitable than black currents) was booming between 1840 and 1940. Not arguing just informing if you didn’t know

    • @mr-mrsknow-it-all2998
      @mr-mrsknow-it-all2998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@christophergomez872 I'm not arguing either. Just a funny thing to point out, that's all lol. They made the wrong choice though, because the logging industry isn't booming now.

  • @oliviacrigger4991
    @oliviacrigger4991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    THATS WHY
    I was so confused why they were recalled at our petsmart last month and no other coworkers new why. But zebra mussels make sense

  • @victorimbornone5125
    @victorimbornone5125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    I've have bought several dozen from several places over the last couple of years. If they had zebra mussels on them I would have tanks full of them. Probably a new issue from an isolated source, I hope.

    • @mittenista
      @mittenista 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's only been going for 3-4 months.

    • @katphish30
      @katphish30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Only this is a new problem. I went to a fish store in Phoenix yesterday and their moss tank was closed because they had found a zebra mussel on one of their moss balls.

    • @reverendfatheruncleruckus
      @reverendfatheruncleruckus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not isolated. They've found them in 43 states last I checked.

    • @KnobTheGoblin
      @KnobTheGoblin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@reverendfatheruncleruckus Isolated as in the region the moss is being harvested from.. if regions 1-7 all export moss balls but let's say region 4 is the only one withe the zebras it would be Isolated to that region and other regions moss balls may be allowed back in if confirmed to be zebra free

    • @reverendfatheruncleruckus
      @reverendfatheruncleruckus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KnobTheGoblin I got you. Export region's.🙃 I was thinking import isolated to a few states, not export isolated to a small region.😑

  • @UKFishCam
    @UKFishCam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Invasive species are the worst thing, weird that moss balls come from Ukraine

    • @tonythetiger7750
      @tonythetiger7750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      My moss balls a Soviet!

    • @topher69420
      @topher69420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @randomdoodification in russia moss ball owns you

    • @littleredhenl.7868
      @littleredhenl.7868 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably not anymore... who has time for moss balls when your being shelled and invaded. Who knew that those moss balls where actually Russian🤔 well according to Russia anyway.

  • @LPfan101X
    @LPfan101X 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I was gifted some moss balls about 8 months ago and I noticed a mussel on one of them while I was quarantining them. I put them out in the sun to dry them out. Looks like this has been going on for quite a while.

  • @loganwitte3477
    @loganwitte3477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    When he said that the zebra mussels have a microscopic larval stage I instantly thought "moss ball covid"

  • @jennifermai213
    @jennifermai213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    In Australia moss balls have been banned for a long time because of biosecurity risk, the usual treatments to sterilize them through legal importation kills the moss balls- It's just not possible to import them without getting rid of risk. I'm glad to know that it wasn't just needless paranoia. It's still relatively easy to illegally import them here though, often people buy them without realizing it was illegal- with some cases of authorities chasing up these folks and the sellers, nuking tanks with algaecides etc. I think people in the US have been very lucky to be able to have such loose laws with many exotic species, but it comes with a huge environmental cost. There are many species that I can never keep in Australia, but that's fine- you can't have everything you want in life.

  • @jimmynorton1001
    @jimmynorton1001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Behind you is a work of art. That is my dream tank

    • @Leo-i5s7d
      @Leo-i5s7d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      im a man of nano tanks imo

  • @JungleScene
    @JungleScene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +370

    the thing that surprises me the most about this whoel thing is that a petco employee was actually knowledgeable enough to ID a zebra mussle. its super rare to find anyone at a petco or any big box pet store that has a clue about aquatics.

    • @CommanderWiggins
      @CommanderWiggins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I wouldn't say super rare, but it's definitely pretty uncommon. More uncommon than it should be, at least.

    • @DeeDee-zs3co
      @DeeDee-zs3co 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It wasn’t a pet co employee, a lady in one of the Axolotl Facebook groups I’m in found and reported it to pet co then came to the group not knowing what else to do.

    • @surestar74
      @surestar74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The Petco I shop at has a great aquatics staff.

    • @Gingerfrost
      @Gingerfrost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I had a super mega pet store employee ask me about there's "weird", fish thatjept getting imported with their guppies. After I showed him a photo of it describing how cool they were. It was a dragon nymph...... Either way told him to dispose of it as it could be dangerous for both environment and the guppies.

    • @rcaddict7638
      @rcaddict7638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Idk I once had a petco employee that would not sell me a convict chiclid because and I quote “I didn’t look like I could take care of it”

  • @violetbyers6818
    @violetbyers6818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    its nice to see someone in the aquatics hobby make a video on this and raise awareness-- I'm not involved in the hobby really, I just watch occasional videos, but I am involved in naturalist communities and I did see this whole thing come up. Word about invasive pests and this kind of stuff tends to go under the radar, or it's just never really properly explained; so a super solid, informative straightforward video like this really does make a difference 👌 love to c it

  • @katphish30
    @katphish30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I went to the fish store yesterday and their moss tank had "Not for sale by order of the U.S. Dept of Agriculture" scrawled across it. They had actually found a zebra mussel in a moss ball.

  • @mb6019
    @mb6019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    There is a massive problem with them in the reservoirs in Spain. My husband stepped on some and they broke into a million pieces in his foot. I bet that they could really f up filters etc. this is so scary! I’m side eyeing my moss balls now.

  • @pyromaniacalmagpie3198
    @pyromaniacalmagpie3198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    For anyone who actually finds a mussel in their tanks: I live very close to the great lakes so in my area this is 100% something the wildlife section of the government will help me with (anyone in Ontario can do this, but I don't remember who you call)
    I'm sure lots of areas/countries will also have a similar program so it's worth asking about
    Okay, so if you find a mussel in your tank, get all your fish out of there into another tank and get everything into buckets and containers that won't leak. When I say everything, I mean, decorations, plants, substrate, all the water, everything.
    Somebody from the government might be able to actually come and pick up your infected stuff, then you just clean your tank really well and start over.
    Zebra mussels have been hurting the fish population in the great lakes so I don't trust them to be very healthy tank makes for fishies, any of y'all who use live plants , go out and get a second tank for emergencies if you don't have one, if you do have one u might as well make sure it's cycled.
    As for dumping the water into grass, just be careful because there's still a risk of zebra mussels getting into ground water, septic, and storm drainage systems depending on where you pour it out & how much water you are dumping.

  • @Honkey-Donkey
    @Honkey-Donkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I read that the employee had reported it several months ago. It took that long for it to be looked into and they continued selling until then.

  • @sunbearsunday750
    @sunbearsunday750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I wonder how much cross contamination will be/is an issue. If big box stores are keeping moss balls in their tanks, could these mussels get on other plants, fish, shrimp, snails, ect?

    • @____________838
      @____________838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I vaguely remember mussel “larvae” having part of their lifecycle in fish gills?

    • @dilophoraptordouble
      @dilophoraptordouble 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@____________838 Zebra mussels don't, the ones that do fake a fish on their foot for fish too eat.

    • @____________838
      @____________838 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dani Masterson YMMV.

  • @infernaldaedra
    @infernaldaedra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    7:35 In this instance if there are zebra mussels or the water is contaminated the aquarium water needs to be sterilized as pouring the water in the yard could easily find the larvae getting to natural water sources from animals, insects, and birds. Boil it, bleach it, or freeze it, alongside cleaning the tank.

  • @allangonzalez2766
    @allangonzalez2766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +312

    Moss balls are the new COVID 2021 for the hobby 😂😢

    • @dehydratedculture9126
      @dehydratedculture9126 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ugh. Lose

    • @jja1483
      @jja1483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mossvid😒😂

    • @vincentender1486
      @vincentender1486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aww, and they are so cute.

    • @gabrielaviles2945
      @gabrielaviles2945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now it's time to capitalize on selling uninfected moss balls for premium price and people will pay it. Moss balls is the new aquarium gold.

    • @loislane7825
      @loislane7825 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone said all they did was pick out the zebra mussels and used the moss balls

  • @mmurray666
    @mmurray666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I work at a pet store, and we had to quarantine all moss balls. The store keeps them in little cups, not tanks. Then fish and game officials came to take them. They told us to keep the water they were in, pour bleach into it, and let sit for 24 hrs. The official said don't pour the water down the drain once it's set, pour it outside.

    • @cockatoode705
      @cockatoode705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I work at a pet store that keeps their moss balls in their display tanks. We just threw them out “in a locked dumpster”

    • @infernaldaedra
      @infernaldaedra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't pour it outside unless its been already bleached.

  • @swatch12345
    @swatch12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    If you bought moss balls recently, just destroy them straight up. Not worth it.

    • @hanslim4031
      @hanslim4031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      u gotta burn them, thoroughly

    • @rrh6642
      @rrh6642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You gotta burn the whole tank, everything but the fish themselves and the glass. You're not even supossed to keep your filter.

    • @dehydratedculture9126
      @dehydratedculture9126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah not gonna do that

    • @swatch12345
      @swatch12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dehydratedculture9126 Cool story.

    • @rrh6642
      @rrh6642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dehydratedculture9126 also, people like you is why it got banned. Not controlled. Plus, if you have them. They'll track it back to you. You'll pay the huge like $10,000 minimum fine, not me tho. 😂 i got all my mossball a year ago. No hitchikers.

  • @LeahhJett
    @LeahhJett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Interesting that some suppliers say they keep the moss balls at lower temps for long periods... the Great Lakes here in Canada/US mostly freeze on top and the zebra mussels survive under the water in those very cold temps that the moss would likely not survive in for longer time frames. Boil, Freeze solid, Dehydrate in the sun, all three 😆.

    • @drnobody1908
      @drnobody1908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great lakes have thermal reservoirs under the ice

  • @atkinsnatureaquariums3552
    @atkinsnatureaquariums3552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If there on moss balls how can we tell other plants haven't been contaminated? Lol as I'm typing this watching you just mentioned that too . I have been wondering this. Tissue culture seems to me to be the safest way now.

  • @baraka7004
    @baraka7004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    The Petco employee reported to "Parks and Wildlife" 🤣 those mussels are hitching rides on peoples boats from lake to lake spreading all over..... they are here in Colorado

    • @larryau5620
      @larryau5620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're here in Canada too! Been here since the 1980s... Who knew that would be an invasive species...

    • @ST62382
      @ST62382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was thinking maybe Fish and Wildlife. Either way, there’s at least one local lake with them by me

  • @mcattack2009
    @mcattack2009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Very interesting and it’s a large issue. I honestly can’t see how to deal with it without nuking everything and starting from scratch

    • @rrh6642
      @rrh6642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're supposed to nuke everything, except your glass and fish if you bought a mossball recently

  • @ThePajamas13
    @ThePajamas13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I don't know if I'm sadder about saying goodbye to my little moss or because I may have unknowingly put an invasive species into the waterways. :(

    • @waterguy1092
      @waterguy1092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'm not throwing away my moss balls, I'll see if any mussels grow. And only do water changes with the moss balls in a cup

    • @Gingerfrost
      @Gingerfrost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Dani Masterson probably to save the fish? Placing them in cup doesn't put th fish at risk if nitrate spikes from no water changes.

    • @MarkRiverbank
      @MarkRiverbank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I put worse things down the drain every day. You should have seen what I flushed after this morning’s coffee. This doesn’t follow common sense-from your yard, water is much more likely to go into a storm drain or pond. If your sewer system is draining into a nearby pond, you have bigger issues than zebra mussels.

  • @AppleSauceWasHere
    @AppleSauceWasHere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My fish shop didnt even know about this issue now I made them check their plants lol

  • @vampgaia
    @vampgaia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’ve been wondering about the possible migration to other plans as well. Many places just have their moss balls in a tank with other plants and fish.

    • @theunnecessary5860
      @theunnecessary5860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now i'm just thinking about the moss balls in the lifebearer and shrimp tank where it can hitchhike everywhere especially if the owner is breeding for provit and sold it to various places :/

    • @loislane7825
      @loislane7825 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone said all they did was pick out the zebra mussels and used the moss balls

  • @zhuxinyugu2993
    @zhuxinyugu2993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Have moss balls for years in my tank now (actually never brought them, I guess the fragments come from the plants I brought from petco when I start the hobby). Never saw mussels in my tanks and haven't get any new plants for two years. I guess I'm safe on this one.

  • @erisisthename
    @erisisthename 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It shocks me that the officer you spoke with knew nothing about this until now. It was 20-30 years ago that New York had a HUGE problem with zebra muscles. I’m kinda shocked, to be honest. I understand the gap in time, but, wow.

    • @ANPC-pi9vu
      @ANPC-pi9vu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because that came from boats, and had nothing to do with aquarium supplies. They believe zebra muscles first arrived in the north east on cargo ships when they emptied their ballast tanks. From there they likely hitched a ride on sport boats to lakes and rivers.

    • @loislane7825
      @loislane7825 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone said in the comments that all they did was pick out the zebra mussels and still used the moss balls maybe they should share this info

  • @MrJ6H
    @MrJ6H 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Here in Michigan, it wasnt just the moss balls. They also looked for other invasive species as well (i.e. Dojos or weather loaches).
    Please remember folks- because there are so many “common names” doesnt mean that what you purchase is NOT on the prohibited list!
    Also, please please please stop releasing unwanted fish and creatures out in to the native lakes!!

    • @00believe000
      @00believe000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't even know weather loaches were invasive 😮

    • @MrJ6H
      @MrJ6H 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@00believe000 there is now a population of them in the wilds in the southwest part of the state now. People really do just dump unwanted aquarium life in to the waters.
      Last year, we pulled a large red devil out of an inland lake.
      There are also plants and the prohibited list as well.
      Not only are these situations bad for our native species, it is very bad for our hobby.

  • @ghotifish9278
    @ghotifish9278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Always wondered if you could feed zebra muscles to pea puffers

    • @gottobekidingme
      @gottobekidingme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      was thinking the same but for my fang's puffer

    • @ghotifish9278
      @ghotifish9278 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gottobekidingme i wonder if anyone keeps a culture of them for puffers in general, I'm near the great lakes just kinda worried about grabbing some😅lol

    • @deb5110
      @deb5110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do zebra mussels harm in the aquarium

    • @ghotifish9278
      @ghotifish9278 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deb5110 only things I'd be worried about are parasites, figure if they attach to the sponge filter or silicon in the corners the puffers would find them. They'd probably do a number on any onther kind of filter with moving parts though.

  • @ashleywright3112
    @ashleywright3112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I bought some betta buddy moss balls from petco 3 weeks ago didn't see anything at first really at all for 3weeks. Thought i was safe.
    But yesterday i saw a weird egg like thing on them took them out put in a bowl & tore open they where full of these weird egg like things (100%not sand) so i called & they said yes they r infected & boil them then put in plastic bag seal & toss so i did. After that i had to drain & redo my tank many hrs later i was done & dumped the water on my lawn (as i was told).
    Now i think is a better safe than sorry issue it was scary & stressful. So if u bought them tear them & look & keep your eyes open. Unless its petco just boil & toss those.

  • @charliebrown9188
    @charliebrown9188 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx a lot Aquapro, I just recently started the hobby, and equally just recently got 3 moss balls, I'm in the UK and after a bit of research, we have had this little invaders here for over 200 years. What I decided: I have a small tank and an extremely large collection of plants (can you see where I'm heading?), the reason for getting moss balls and a tank was to explore water plants, or increase the variety of plants I keep (and of course may as well put some fish in it lol) as a recycler I collect the water from my changes and then use it to water my plants. Now that I'm aware of this issue I will not ever discard any excess water (this could happen in the winter) in the drains, I am fortunate to have a garden.
    I'd like this to be a suggestion to other hobbyists, like who live in a flat... just keep some plants to drink up that water which will be full of nutrients, and the little critters will perish in the soil...
    Many thanks for posting this video 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @timothygreer188
    @timothygreer188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In an apartment, I'd drain the tank into the tub and toss bleach in there, just like the tank. I almost bought my roommate moss balls for his tank last month. So glad I didn't

  • @ravenonthewind6797
    @ravenonthewind6797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It took me like 3 minutes to figure out what that ring was on the side of your fish tank

  • @Tarynntism
    @Tarynntism 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just started my first planted tank and I had bought multiple moss balls from my local petcos/petsmarts like a couple weeks before all this went down. Sites were recommending destroying moss balls that had been purchased in the last three months. I was sooo sad because I love moss balls. Then I had to clean the tank pretty thoroughly and mess up my scape and my cycled water. I’m fairly certain that I didn’t have zebra mussels because by the time I destroyed my moss (boiled them to death lol) it had been over a month with no sign of them. Still didn’t want to risk that they might still be in the invisible larval stage though. It’s ok, as a newbie maybe I overreacted but its worth the peace of mind. I really hope they get everything situated and safe, mussel-free moss balls can get in stores again relatively soon. I think they’re so cute and my Betta and shrimp loved them. Thanks for the video!

  • @yolandaraquellopez664
    @yolandaraquellopez664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought some moss balls this week and I just put them in my tank today. Thank you for the video! Supper helpful

  • @aseriouslollygagger5734
    @aseriouslollygagger5734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm quarantining all new plants I buy in a separate tank for a long time just in case the Zebra muscle hitched a ride.

  • @Charwee
    @Charwee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just set up a 10 gallon betta tank last week. Thank God I didn't get any balls. I'm in Canada though sooo I'm not sure if it a problem. I don't remember seeing moss balls around the betta area.

  • @jimmyjames2022
    @jimmyjames2022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hardly any channels are talking about this, so kudos! Glad you put your water change into the yard, but sadly by now the larvae are spread far and wide since many people don't. And as you say there's no way to sterilize everything. Invasives are a big problem for the hobby, and you will see more regulation coming along the way things are going. My pet peeve is White Cloud Minnow, it's on everyone's Top 10 List, but banned in many jurisdictions in Canada and US, and that's never mentioned in the reviews. Newbies aren't going to care about prohibitions they'll just get what's suggested.

  • @panic3815
    @panic3815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was so confused when I didnt find any mossballs cause I was looking for plants to put in my 5 gal I am setting up for a betta. Someone told me they heard it was some kind of bacterial infection from months ago but it surprised me to find out that it was an invasive species pulling all of them off the shelves. It's been like a year and they're still banned (?) and I probably won't be getting any mossballs any time soon.

  • @lionelb3542
    @lionelb3542 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, would it not be possible to treat the whole tank with a copper based medication ?

  • @michelinemorin7056
    @michelinemorin7056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As of November 2022 are the Marimo moss ball now available to buy

  • @arcatia66
    @arcatia66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    zebra mussels are definitely a problem and I’m not downplaying that at all but the funniest part of them being invasive species is that something isn’t an invasive species until it causes problems to humans directly. they could be tearing an ecosystem to shreds but until we have a problem with it, it’s not invasive. that’s one of the wildest things I ever learned in my eco science classes

    • @Rosebud2503
      @Rosebud2503 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Smart thinking

    • @Rosebud2503
      @Rosebud2503 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am now really freaked out...😵‍💫

  • @michaelmccarthy4077
    @michaelmccarthy4077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it will be another blip on the radar. We went through a similar issue with live plants and apple snail eggs back in the late 90's. (I'm not surprised the issue is related to Petco, they get all of their "pre-packaged" stuff from a single supplier and he gets bettas from what are barely better than sweat shops in Sri Lanka.

    • @michaelmccarthy4077
      @michaelmccarthy4077 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dani Masterson a lot of plants grown in Florida used to be collected and grown in outdoor ponds. Because most aquatic plants grow faster in the emerged (above water) form, they were generally grown in low water and the tops just cut off. There would sometimes be snail egg clusters on the stems of Bacopa and Wisteria.

  • @Shaden0040
    @Shaden0040 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about larvae that get in your nets, water changing eqiupment? can you bleach them or H2O2 them? What states have they been found in so far?

  • @Cerinaya
    @Cerinaya 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I no longer have a fish tank but I enjoyed watching the little fish swimming behind you.

  • @YouBetterCallSaul
    @YouBetterCallSaul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve lived in the Great Lakes region my whole life...my dad always complained about zebra muscles growing up. They cover the bottoms of boats, the harbors, even on the propellers...oddly enough I was JUST looking at moss balls last night at Petco glad I didn’t buy some

    • @loislane7825
      @loislane7825 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone said all they did was pick out the zebra mussels and used the moss balls

    • @worldserpent731
      @worldserpent731 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zebra mussels are just about everywhere in the US since the 1950s and 1960s. This is just clickbait. DNR, park rangers, and wildlife officials tend to be out of the loop about everything and they mainly focus on hunters and fishermen. Go speak to a local fish biologist if you have any serious concerns, most are pretty cool to chat with.
      This is mostly clickbait. Zebra mussels are unfortunately here to stay in the US.

  • @alexcremo3231
    @alexcremo3231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing how you make 13min videos go by so quick. Very interesting

  • @DeeDee-zs3co
    @DeeDee-zs3co 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It wasn’t a pet co employee, a lady in one of the Axolotl Facebook groups I’m in found and reported it to pet co then came to the group not knowing what else to do.

  • @drjones6567
    @drjones6567 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so thankful for your video. TH-cam recommended your video. We got our moss balls in January. We still had one We kept in the original container. We had bought 3 mini ones in one container from Pet Smart. Wouldn't you know We have zebra mollusks in it. I used the link you provided to report what we have. I now how 2 tanks that have to be cleaned properly and destroy the infected moss balls. Thank you so so much for this information and the links.

  • @nicksh1990
    @nicksh1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reading and hearing about this makes me VERY happy that I dispose of tank water in my garden, where there is zero risk of it entering water sources of any kind, rather than down the sink.

  • @ioriok_KeanUniversity
    @ioriok_KeanUniversity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you know where one could find a list of all the brands known to be infected?

    • @khills
      @khills 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      From US Fish and Wildlife, “What stores or products were contaminated?
      At this time, we do not know the full extent of stores or products containing zebra mussels. If you have recently purchased moss balls from any retailer, we recommend they be destroyed following our Destroy, Dispose, Drain instructions.”

  • @Mimmsie
    @Mimmsie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awe man, I was looking at getting some this summer. I’m glad that something like this has been found though!

  • @MultiFruitshoot
    @MultiFruitshoot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this a UK problem too? Ive not seen anything on my mossballs

  • @AngryMothNoises
    @AngryMothNoises 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zebra mussels take a year to reach adult hood. I have no idea how I would clean my tank and cycle it again for my fish. I have one ball I got in January. Thats about 3 months ago and I am not sure if thats still to soon?

  • @LadyVineXIII
    @LadyVineXIII 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a resident of the Great Lakes area, I can confirm that Zebra Mussels are a massive problem. They reproduce absurdly fast and can clog up pretty much any water system. They also leave really nasty, sharp little shells all over the beach both in and above the water. The only upside is that the beautiful Long-Tailed ducks who once only passed through have now taken up year round residence on the lake and have turned the pests into a food source. They have been a tax on the native shellfish species who, unlike the Zebra Mussels, struggled in the long polluted waters of lakes like Ontario and Erie. Although we've done a lot to clean up the lakes, Zebra Mussels and Gobis are both still huge issues.

  • @reallyfijateperocomocono1131
    @reallyfijateperocomocono1131 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Canyon lake community water system in Texas found the parts of pipes were incrusted with these zebra mussels. Couldn’t drink the water for a bit till pipes were replaced .

  • @chucknorris9667
    @chucknorris9667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is this problem also happening in Europe? I was thinking about getting some moss balls

    • @alis49281
      @alis49281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where in Europe? They are native in some parts, but invasive in others.

    • @chucknorris9667
      @chucknorris9667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alis49281 Belgium

    • @alis49281
      @alis49281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chucknorris9667 the mussel has already spread to germany more than 100 years ago. It is common in west germany and is most likely to be found in netherlands. It travels with ships.
      I don't see ship traffic being banned, so why should moss balls be banned.

    • @chucknorris9667
      @chucknorris9667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alis49281 thanks for the information

  • @waterguy1092
    @waterguy1092 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought mine from petco, like two months ago, what would the problem be with them in the tank if their isn't any zebra mussels?

  • @emilyk3635
    @emilyk3635 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the petsmart I work at was visited by an officer from our state’s department of conservation a few weeks back who asked about the moss balls! we were already on top of it and quarantined them that morning lol

  • @pae913
    @pae913 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How long would it take for zebra mussels to get to the point where you can see them?

  • @AquaMayne
    @AquaMayne 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you drain from your basement to the yard? Im making a fishroom in my basement and would love to water my grass with the tank water.

    • @samsadowitz1724
      @samsadowitz1724 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Buckets/manually?

    • @AquaMayne
      @AquaMayne 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samsadowitz1724 I think he’s probably using a sump pump or something

  • @NS-ss9uz
    @NS-ss9uz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this is about the Moss Balls, I'm lucky, bought mine a long time ago. What I'd like to know is, what is in his tank that looks like trees? The setup is spectacular!

  • @oliviavassar9565
    @oliviavassar9565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How long is the larvae stage?

  • @sasukeXjoker
    @sasukeXjoker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started my aquascape in March & been trying to get moss balls for a bonsai tree, wondering why it was so hard to find ...... Now ik. Still need moss balls

  • @samarabedolla1493
    @samarabedolla1493 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought two moss balls from The Sill and they shipped from Alabama....not out of state. They arrive Friday lol. What should I do?

    • @worldserpent731
      @worldserpent731 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is click bait. Zebra mussels are just about everywhere in the US sinnce about the 1950s and 1960s

  • @brozxheadshotz7238
    @brozxheadshotz7238 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would copper sulfate not take care of the mussels for the tanks that don’t have other invertebrates of course

  • @kmoss.2897
    @kmoss.2897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could they effect our fish? I bought one of those moss balls from petco like 3 months ago when i got my betta and ghost shrimp and my betta and shimp have died and i cannot figure out why. I was researching so much and could not think of anything. My tank is cycled, i do water changes every week and my water tests have always been great. Everything in my tank has died accept for my two nerite snails, could this be why? I’m so sad about it!

  • @pinkpuppy05
    @pinkpuppy05 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I literally just bought 2 marimos and I'm not sure what to do. I dont plan on having them in a tank, rather I'm keeping them by themselves in a jar, and I plan to use it's old water in my other plants. Should I still destroy them? Idk I feel like it's an awful waste but I dont want to risk affecting any local ecosystems

    • @Mookuuo
      @Mookuuo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      IM NOT SURE ON THIS AT ALL- but im pretty sure if your not putting the water down the sink and stuff like that it should be okay? BUT AGAIN IM NOT TOO SURE.

  • @MrMyKidd
    @MrMyKidd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And on top of all that, I just found Moss muscles on my zebra balls...

  • @RiiLove
    @RiiLove 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That explains the massive tank clear out at my local shop. Crazy! Thanks for the update

  • @LamourVanity09
    @LamourVanity09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve had the same moss ball for ages before this happened, so I think mine is good, my betta would revolt if I took it because he sleeps on it and pushes it about in the tank.

  • @WarriorBazooka
    @WarriorBazooka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live in the Great Lakes area, where Zebra Mussels are a big deal. The local schools in my area, or at least mine, have educated us on the problems they cause as far back as middle school.
    Anyways, I'm an animal care technician and the other week, a local ranger came in to check our plants for moss balls. Luckily, our manager seems to already have been aware of the situation, because in our most recent shipment she stored all the moss balls in the freezer, and we haven't sold them since.

  • @krazyraejr
    @krazyraejr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a moss ball just sitting in a tank on my shelf, i have been taking care of it and it's just vibing, should i get rid of it?

  • @IanTheTurtleMan
    @IanTheTurtleMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a well, a septic system and drain fields do you think it’s ok to use my python in tanks with moss balls.

  • @ciararyan5147
    @ciararyan5147 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pet Smart I went to in Ontario, Canada also stopped the sale of fish and water plants this past week because of an outbreak

  • @cristiewentz8586
    @cristiewentz8586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought some tiny moss balls a couple of months ago. I figure that I'll simply quarantine that tank, and use the dirty water on my large flower pots.

  • @loverslanehawj6244
    @loverslanehawj6244 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a bad timing for me to order them from Esty shop. It’s scheduled to ship by April 6 according to seller I’ve contacted. I did stop by few pet store to get one while waiting for the shipment but there were none in store. I did ask about it was told similar situation going on with moss ball. Now having 2nd thoughts about having them ship out .....

    • @levi9874
      @levi9874 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want to by some of Etsy too there baby moss balls like 2cm I don’t know if I can get in trouble tho but I want one

    • @worldserpent731
      @worldserpent731 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zebra mussels are just about everywhere in the US since the 1950s and 1960s. This is just clickbait. DNR, park rangers, and wildlife officials tend to be out of the loop about everything and they mainly focus on hunters and fishermen. Go speak to a local fish biologist if you have any serious concerns, most are pretty cool to chat with.
      This is mostly clickbait. Zebra mussels are unfortunately here to stay in the US.

  • @sweetchinmusic6358
    @sweetchinmusic6358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bought 3 moss balls from petsmart 3 months ago. Have not noticed anything or had any issues. What do you all think?

  • @kitsune0rei
    @kitsune0rei 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to know!
    I don't have an active tank right now, I let it go once my inhabitants passed on... so I just have 2 very old sad dried up moss balls. I've been wondering if they're totally dead.

    • @berthaday3473
      @berthaday3473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kitsun , watch the mossball tutorials on TH-cam. Revive moss balls by putting in fridge or freezer overnight

  • @fturla
    @fturla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Moss balls from Japan or that region of the world seems to be relatively safe for purchase, but those items will definitely be more expensive. I do not trust having mussels or snails stored in the same containment areas, because contamination not just my the specific species is possible, but that parasitic bacteria, viruses, worms, etc. are prevalent in such environments of mixed species aquarium holding tanks.

  • @Badfish277
    @Badfish277 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are marimo moss balls the same as the ones you are referring to? I thought those come from some lake in Japan.

    • @christopherlewis7690
      @christopherlewis7690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marimo balls are the same thing, they do grow naturally in certain lakes in Japan and parts of Europe but the ones you buy are grown in commercial facilities that could potentially be anywhere. The funny thing is they aren't even moss but "algae balls" sounds less appealing.

  • @seizedcarcass8440
    @seizedcarcass8440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve got about 8 moss balls that I’ve had some for at least two years. It’s funny to think that moss balls could be more valuable than gold.

  • @jobney
    @jobney 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How long can a moss ball survivor 104F water?
    Can a moss ball survive a 20-minute vinegar dip?

  • @joemackey8859
    @joemackey8859 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought 2 moss balls at the same time from Petco and put them into 2 separate tanks. The 5 gallon tank was overrun with zebra mussels and the 20 gallon tank was completely free of them. I vacuumed the 5 gallon tank several times and it looks like I have taken care of the infestation. I don't intend for this to be a recommendation for your fish tank, just a recounting of my experience with them.
    Also I live 15 minutes from lake Erie and completely understand zebra mussel infestation, these things are a plague. That being said I don't completely understand why 2 balls bought from the same store had completely different results.

  • @mysadending
    @mysadending 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just when I finally got into having live plants?! 🤷‍♀️ 🤦‍♀️ (Btw, I was actually wondering why they suddenly vanished from the stores recently.)

  • @SecondsInTimeMusic
    @SecondsInTimeMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm in New Hampshire and I bought some Shrimp Buddies from Petco (the ones that come in a bag). I unfortunately found some in mine. Luckily it's a small tank.

  • @terramerc733
    @terramerc733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Zebra mussles : invades the us waterways
    Ducks : hehehe boi
    Last time i checked ducks love these things

    • @420jessw
      @420jessw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Although ducks do occasionally eat mussels analysis of duck stomach contents indicate that mussels account for less than 1% of their diet. ( Randy M. Claramunt, Illinois Prairie Research Institure )

    • @sxcgremlinkyo119
      @sxcgremlinkyo119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      will if they do spread it will probably increase

    • @probablyabouttoargue3264
      @probablyabouttoargue3264 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about geese? Since you know... They’re worthless freeloaders that eat all the fish, eat bread and bite kids. If geese eat zebra muscles I’ll lay off on my hatred towards them for a while.

    • @dilophoraptordouble
      @dilophoraptordouble 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@probablyabouttoargue3264 some waterfowl in one location(i can't remember where, but it's a bunch of bird species) annihilate the yearly population, but they still come back after winter

    • @Έκπληξηρυσός
      @Έκπληξηρυσός 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@probablyabouttoargue3264 yes they do, so are the rest of birds that aggregate near lakes and rivers. Crayfish decimate them , bass and perch eat them also.
      They were unintentionally introduced in the artificial lake nearby and they were reproducing in huge numbers , but then koi and gold fish which were released in the lake exterminated them all.

  • @fernalicious
    @fernalicious 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this. Can't buy fish in Canada until April due to zebra mussels and didnt know why.

  • @ToledoPitbull
    @ToledoPitbull 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a moss ball from petco a couple year's ago. Haven't noticed any muscles. Sucks though because I was going to buy a new one because one of my fish tore up the old one.

  • @schizophrenic.prayers
    @schizophrenic.prayers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just heard of this recently on a Facebook group tbh. sucks since I wanted to get moss balls soon :(

    • @speckle1705
      @speckle1705 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m pretty sure you can unless your going to put them in water sources!

    • @Mookuuo
      @Mookuuo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@speckle1705 Sorry if i'm being annoying- but i just wanted to ask, by that do you mean like the sink or a fish tank or stuff like that?

  • @ambermindy9341
    @ambermindy9341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been studying up about getting my first tank and getting a betta for months.. I finally started purchasing all the plants (including moss balls) about 1.5/2 months ago and finally purchased my fish 2 weeks ago... only to find out about the zebra mussels 3 days later... it was a wild ride 😂🥲

  • @LightLegion
    @LightLegion ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got one! They shipping from Canada to the local fish store here!