0:40 this will happen if you use 5.8Ghz and angle the antennas at a 45 degree angle they need to be 90 degrees to the drone to work well. I did a test with a friend I got on top of the sugar loaf ( a mountain in Ireland) he got in a car drove 500m and held the drone in the air and took off I had the drone set up so it was in trainer mode this lets 2 people fly the drone at a time the master can take control at any time. but the slave will be ignored if the master makes any movements on the sticks. then he move the drone 500m further and trued again . we found that if you point the remote antennas 90 degrees to the drone you can get it 8Km away with no video dropout. also if you use iOS ( iPod , iPhone all that stuff) you can turn on hardware decoding and get smaller latency. this is supposed by default on the pro + and is way faster then any device on the pro but still you cannot even see the difference( it only a few milliseconds difference) any way and considering that it cost €300 more you could buy a second battery and a good tablet instead.
That is how an informative review is done !! Take note youtube. Follow this productions lead . Straight to the point , clear and , concise . Awesome. Thank you Quadcopter Land . I sincerely hope that this channel grows and stays available . I am an aerial photographer and a certified uas pilot . This is the info that I need for business prior to spending hard earned , hard fought dollars . I also am a P2 owner for two and a half years and know first hand the DJI experience . This level of honesty is needed for both consumers and manufacturers . It challenges the company while improving the consumer experience . Thanx again QuadCopter Land . To all phantom lovers that have not experienced any issues . Take no offense at any business holding a supplier to higher standards . It only serves to benefit us all and NO , I am not affiliated with QuadCopter Land in any way . Found them just now while researching prior to purchase . Will stick to my P2 Zenmuse for now. Give DJI a chance to polish off an otherwise nice unit .
Steve Farnsworth alot if bad things about this drone loud as he'll to big hard to take everywhere you wanna go unlike the mavic 4k camera easy to put in the air and quit plus easy to take everywhere mavic also has range to and the controller is small unlike the fantom that s my right not the mavic is the best drone on the market today
I use an ipad pro 9.7 inch with polarised sunglasses and a sunshade and I get awesome results in direct sunlight not too much trouble seeing the screen in Direct sunlight. It will be awesome when DJI release that dji Crystal sky monitor of which I will be getting. That gets up between 1000 and 2000 nits of brightness.
I purchased a ipad mini 4 for that reason, it is alot better, but it has a hard time connecting. Have to shut down everything and restart before it would connect.
Shane I have a question for you, do you have any weight issues with the 9.7 pro tablet? Thinking about exchanging ipad 4 mini this evening for the pro 9.7
I stop using my Samsung and my other android tablets. I purchased a Ipad mini 4 so I could use the Autopilot app. After I started using the Ipad mini 4. I never had another crash with my DJI GO 4 app.
No latest firmware issue with vibration here when landing. I use IOS with Go4 and NEVER a software crash or glitch. Same with the P4 i had...never an issue. I have read that many Android users have had software crashes issues however.
I agree 100% I flew my 2600 dollar phantom 4 plus pro and went only 10 blocks and then all of a sudden I lost my signal and the app crashed! I went into panic mode .... literally went into crying mode my self, scared and afraid I pressed the button really fast (home) to retrieve it thinking it will just fall away it came back home, but now I am terrified to fly this bird 2 miles as I am gonna really loose it I do hope that they will upgrade there app to perfection soon! Because this will never do the 4.3 miles as stated Over all I love it and it's my baby Ps love the real facts about your video all said is true and real Thanks
I have one other big issue with my p4p. When flying it, even only a few feet away from me, it will drift up and down randomly without me controlling it. It can move up to 4 feet in either direction and it is very dangerous
My P4's were awesome! But my P4P is more awesome! Tiny little tweaks here and there with updates and it's awesome! Camera auto focus now works perfectly btw.
Thanks for the Pros and Cons. I also had issues with a Samsung tablet (Tab S2 8") not working well with my P4P and had to return it. I am not a big Apple fan... so I really wanted to get Android to work but grew pretty frustrated. I went ahead and got an iPad and it has never crashed yet. (Nor has my P4P!) I don't have a lot of hours logged (about 12) but so far so good. I didn't have issues with the gimbal not being level until the last firmware update and it seems intermittent. BTW, if you press and hold the C2 button on the remote, and at the same time turn the control wheel on the right side (the one that is also a button) you can adjust the gimbal on the fly (no pun intended). Super fast and easy! Thanks again! I'm subscribed!
Hi, as far as adding apps on the DJI pro PLUS tablet, i believe DJI made the tablet to FLY the DRONE and not to entertain with it. they have done a very professional job which also include the HDMI cable availability
Lots of wrong info here No need to do any calibration unless the app tells you too. Fly mine in several states around the USA and rarely ever get a compass calibration request and never a IMU request. Never had a single issue with P4P+.
That is a good thing for you, glad to see you dont have any issues. The calibrations i refer to is to try fixing gimbal tilt, not everytime i fly. You should always do a compass calibration every time you change location.
Have you tried the Litchi app with the Phantom 4 pro yet? I'm very curious about how that will work as I'm also experiencing app problems and thought about switching apps.
Sorry I was helping another individual with his bird issues. From all the test I have done, you might want to hold tight because I rolled back the firmware and it seems to have fixed many of my new issues. I may have to do even more test to confirm my findings. Don't return it because of that.
Mavic is nice in the fact that it is portable, on the other hand, P4P for is nice because of the camera. Both are good drones, just personal preference.
Like i say i love my phantom 4 pro, 👍🏼 awesome product but that left stick down shut off motors in mid flight issue just needs to be sorted no big deal i know i made the right decision when buying a drone.
My bird works great most of the time, just pointing out issues that can be ironed out. I refresh firmware last night, and hopefully the stick situation will clear up.
I heard you say there is no protection for the gimble? It does come with a gimble lock when your not flying it that you can use...unless that got tossed out during the unboxing. quite a few of the problems sound like the drone not being calibrated before each flight as suggested. I have not noticed any gimble tilt issues from anyone elses videos.
Quadcopter Land ok, so like a guard that the mavic appears to have? Like the plastic globe around the camera or is there a different guard I should be looking for? I have seen some videos where people have issues with the gimble out of the box that appears to be bad gears during its clearing run pointing down and up. I do hope I don't get a bad one since I will hopefully get my p4p+ in maybe a week if my local store has it in stock and I plan on doing a video of unboxing and set up so anyone can see any problems, if any, it has.
Matchlock at least calibrate the compass before each flight unless your in the same location and weather has not changed. Pilots always calibrate everything when flying so they have accurate information, same would go for compass calibration for UAS.
Sounds like you got a dud bro. I just got mine and I'm not experiencing any of the issues you are talking about other than the blind spot issue but that's obvious because it's a blind spot. And the detachable cameras are on the Inspire drones. Just get that one. There are options of drones to buy that fit your needs.
This is my second P4P, most of the issues started after firmware issue. The older models gimbal was able to be replaced without sending your bird in for repairs. That was a nice option to have.
pilotkisses wrong I fly in range and still have issues with my phantom 4pro doesnt. Matter what you do. Don't people know that the side senors only work in certain modes lol
I should make a video, but it would only have one pro... the camera quality. The P4P is the worst Phantom I've ever owned. I have 3 and regret getting rid of my P4s and P3.
To many small issues that make it less tolerable than previous model, especially the video feed being lost while flying and app crashing while flying. It was an improvement with my ipad 4 mini purchase. But why should i have to go buy another tablet because of compatibility issues. My Samsung 7egde doesn't even load the app anymore, that sucks, and my Samsung tablet works only half the time since last firmware update.
I'm on my third one and it will still get IMU and Compass errors mid-flight. That is very bad. That basically is your gyros and "guidance" system. It will kill your GPS and switch you to ATTI (manual) mode, mid-flight mode wich means a strong wind can push it around. I use my drones professional to film shipping on the Great Lakes and have been able to send every model since the Phantom 3 out a mile or 2 to get shots of ships on the water without any real worry. I will barely let either (I have 2 now. I bought two, sent one back for repairs. DJI replaced it, and the third one is doing what the other two were doing.) of my P4 Pros out beyond a few thousand feet. I don't trust them at all. Gimbal constantly goes crooked, IMU and Compass errors, constant high wind warnings (no wind present), vison sensor errors that cause it to get "stuck" 300 and 400 feet in the air. Like I said, this is the third P4P I've used (I've owned 7 different Phantoms )and all these errors have occurred on all three. It is almost unusable for aerial filming.
Almost every one of those issues are either operator error or their is a solution built in. Dropped signal, switch to 5.8, that's what its for. Vibration, balance you're props. Your the only person with that issue. Camera focus, its tap to focus so if you don't tap, it don't focus. Gotta send it back, no. Dji sells a complete gimbal assembly. Its can easilly be separated from the aircraft. Horizon tilt, you can adjust it in the app. App crash, get an apple devise.
I'm in phantom forums everyday and I stand by my previous statement. I have a p4 so I'm not just talking out my ass. I don't have any of those problems. I can easily fly 10,000ft in the jungle with no loss of video and I don't have the option to switch to 5.8ghz for video transmission. I don't, nor have I heard of any unstable flight at take off or landing. Perhaps you Ned to calibrate your IMU. That could explain your horizon tilt as well. Tap to focus will fix your focus issue. Even when its on auto focus, tap to focus anyway. I've taken my gimbal assembly off a few times and its just as easy if not easier than removing the p3 gimbal. 8 screws and it pops off. Two more screws folding the connections on and that's it, its off. Dji will mail you a replacement or you can get one on eBay. App crash, everybody knows djigo 4 is unstable on android. I've never crashed on my iPhone 6.
Grayson Miller why should someone have to shell out for an iPad/iPhone when they've spent £1500 on a drone? To have an app that simply works with your OS and doesn't crash all the time isn't a big ask, especially when you've forked over a grand over to them.
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your videos are the BEST. THUMBS UP. Hope DJI sees this.
0:40 this will happen if you use 5.8Ghz and angle the antennas at a 45 degree angle they need to be 90 degrees to the drone to work well. I did a test with a friend I got on top of the sugar loaf ( a mountain in Ireland) he got in a car drove 500m and held the drone in the air and took off I had the drone set up so it was in trainer mode this lets 2 people fly the drone at a time the master can take control at any time. but the slave will be ignored if the master makes any movements on the sticks. then he move the drone 500m further and trued again . we found that if you point the remote antennas 90 degrees to the drone you can get it 8Km away with no video dropout. also if you use iOS ( iPod , iPhone all that stuff) you can turn on hardware decoding and get smaller latency. this is supposed by default on the pro + and is way faster then any device on the pro but still you cannot even see the difference( it only a few milliseconds difference) any way and considering that it cost €300 more you could buy a second battery and a good tablet instead.
That is how an informative review is done !!
Take note youtube.
Follow this productions lead .
Straight to the point , clear and , concise .
Awesome.
Thank you Quadcopter Land .
I sincerely hope that this channel grows and stays available .
I am an aerial photographer and a certified uas pilot .
This is the info that I need for business prior to spending hard earned , hard fought dollars .
I also am a P2 owner for two and a half years and know first hand the DJI experience .
This level of honesty is needed for both consumers and manufacturers .
It challenges the company while improving the consumer experience .
Thanx again QuadCopter Land .
To all phantom lovers that have not experienced any issues .
Take no offense at any business holding a supplier to higher standards .
It only serves to benefit us all and NO , I am not affiliated with QuadCopter Land in any way .
Found them just now while researching prior to purchase .
Will stick to my P2 Zenmuse for now.
Give DJI a chance to polish off an otherwise nice unit .
Good, honest critique. Thanks!
Thanks for your honest opinion. Probably going to buy one.
Steve Farnsworth alot if bad things about this drone loud as he'll to big hard to take everywhere you wanna go unlike the mavic 4k camera easy to put in the air and quit plus easy to take everywhere mavic also has range to and the controller is small unlike the fantom that s my right not the mavic is the best drone on the market today
i like how thorough you are great video, great channel, i subbed for sure
Thanks dawg good vid. key word I was looking 4 and you poped it
Thanks
I'd sat calibrate everything after the new updates. Or also go to the DJI support 2 app In the DJI site and calibrate the sensors , the IMU etc.
I use an ipad pro 9.7 inch with polarised sunglasses and a sunshade and I get awesome results in direct sunlight not too much trouble seeing the screen in Direct sunlight. It will be awesome when DJI release that dji Crystal sky monitor of which I will be getting. That gets up between 1000 and 2000 nits of brightness.
I purchased a ipad mini 4 for that reason, it is alot better, but it has a hard time connecting. Have to shut down everything and restart before it would connect.
Shane I have a question for you, do you have any weight issues with the 9.7 pro tablet? Thinking about exchanging ipad 4 mini this evening for the pro 9.7
I stop using my Samsung and my other android tablets. I purchased a Ipad mini 4 so I could use the Autopilot app. After I started using the Ipad mini 4. I never had another crash with my DJI GO 4 app.
I also recently purchased a ipad 4 mini.
Me too!
No latest firmware issue with vibration here when landing. I use IOS with Go4 and NEVER a software crash or glitch. Same with the P4 i had...never an issue. I have read that many Android users have had software crashes issues however.
slbynum sucks with a android and works perfect with a apple product
Thanks for the heads up. 👍🏼
I agree 100% I flew my 2600 dollar phantom 4 plus pro and went only 10 blocks and then all of a sudden I lost my signal and the app crashed! I went into panic mode .... literally went into crying mode my self, scared and afraid I pressed the button really fast (home) to retrieve it thinking it will just fall away it came back home, but now I am terrified to fly this bird 2 miles as I am gonna really loose it I do hope that they will upgrade there app to perfection soon! Because this will never do the 4.3 miles as stated
Over all I love it and it's my baby
Ps love the real facts about your video all said is true and real
Thanks
I have one other big issue with my p4p. When flying it, even only a few feet away from me, it will drift up and down randomly without me controlling it. It can move up to 4 feet in either direction and it is very dangerous
My P4's were awesome! But my P4P is more awesome! Tiny little tweaks here and there with updates and it's awesome! Camera auto focus now works perfectly btw.
I had the same problem with losing feed with a Samsung tablet I went and bought an iPad Mini 4 and never had a problem again
Thanks for the Pros and Cons. I also had issues with a Samsung tablet (Tab S2 8") not working well with my P4P and had to return it. I am not a big Apple fan... so I really wanted to get Android to work but grew pretty frustrated. I went ahead and got an iPad and it has never crashed yet. (Nor has my P4P!) I don't have a lot of hours logged (about 12) but so far so good.
I didn't have issues with the gimbal not being level until the last firmware update and it seems intermittent.
BTW, if you press and hold the C2 button on the remote, and at the same time turn the control wheel on the right side (the one that is also a button) you can adjust the gimbal on the fly (no pun intended). Super fast and easy!
Thanks again! I'm subscribed!
I have to adjust gimbal almost every time i fly.
I purchased an ipad 4 mini and i still have problems getting bird to connect.
Hi, as far as adding apps on the DJI pro PLUS tablet, i believe DJI made the tablet to FLY the DRONE and not to entertain with it. they have done a very professional job which also include the HDMI cable availability
Does it lose video signal as much as parrot bebop 2 I'm thinking about getting a new drone
Thumbs up new subscriber... good job!!!
Thank you sir.
you need to deactivate the VIDEO AUTO CACHE from the settings and the video issue will be solved immediately.
The Built in screen is Far better than any tablet, 3rd party apps Not allowed in the built in will make the Flight Lag,
Great review
Streaming bad patches depends on wifi activity
Optimism for apple product I get brake up with my tab A but not with my iPad or iPhone
Lots of wrong info here
No need to do any calibration unless the app tells you too. Fly mine in several states around the USA and rarely ever get a compass calibration request and never a IMU request. Never had a single issue with P4P+.
That is a good thing for you, glad to see you dont have any issues. The calibrations i refer to is to try fixing gimbal tilt, not everytime i fly. You should always do a compass calibration every time you change location.
I use ipad and the app never crashes on me. I also don't get that unstable shaking at take off or landing. Maybe you just got a bad bird?
my only issue with phantom 4pro plus is the spare battery is way to expensive.
Have you tried the Litchi app with the Phantom 4 pro yet? I'm very curious about how that will work as I'm also experiencing app problems and thought about switching apps.
That android tablet is your issue with the crashes,i haven't had any issues at all with the drone or anything at all
Like does it only back up away from you in the active track mode or can I be in the normal flying mode for it to back away when approached
Sorry I was helping another individual with his bird issues. From all the test I have done, you might want to hold tight because I rolled back the firmware and it seems to have fixed many of my new issues. I may have to do even more test to confirm my findings. Don't return it because of that.
so you think the standard is better then the pro?
Good Video!! Do you prefer the pro over Mav?
Mavic is nice in the fact that it is portable, on the other hand, P4P for is nice because of the camera. Both are good drones, just personal preference.
DJI Definitely work's better with apple products & works best when you connected to wifi or 4g LTE.
Like i say i love my phantom 4 pro, 👍🏼 awesome product but that left stick down shut off motors in mid flight issue just needs to be sorted no big deal i know i made the right decision when buying a drone.
I tried refreshing firmware last night, hopefully that may resolve it. Most of the issues started after lastest uldate.
Quadcopter Land true because when I walk towards my drone it does not even move away it just stays there that's not supposed to happen right
My bird works great most of the time, just pointing out issues that can be ironed out. I refresh firmware last night, and hopefully the stick situation will clear up.
From what i have observed, the bird must be moving, the obstacle avoidance only beeps if you walk up to it. Trust me, i tried it.
Quadcopter Land I'm sending mine back but did you have active avoidance on does this backup feature only work in active track
Would you buy the P4P or the Mavic Pro? Fixing to purchase.
For sporty flying, get the mavic. For photography, get P4P.
I heard you say there is no protection for the gimble? It does come with a gimble lock when your not flying it that you can use...unless that got tossed out during the unboxing. quite a few of the problems sound like the drone not being calibrated before each flight as suggested. I have not noticed any gimble tilt issues from anyone elses videos.
Talking about gimbal protectors during flight
Quadcopter Land ok, so like a guard that the mavic appears to have? Like the plastic globe around the camera or is there a different guard I should be looking for? I have seen some videos where people have issues with the gimble out of the box that appears to be bad gears during its clearing run pointing down and up. I do hope I don't get a bad one since I will hopefully get my p4p+ in maybe a week if my local store has it in stock and I plan on doing a video of unboxing and set up so anyone can see any problems, if any, it has.
They are called Polarpro prop guards on amazon
Matchlock at least calibrate the compass before each flight unless your in the same location and weather has not changed. Pilots always calibrate everything when flying so they have accurate information, same would go for compass calibration for UAS.
Thank you, last time I checked. Dji recommended calibrating compass before every flight, and calibrate IMU after every firmware update.
4:27 Nearly everyone has trouble with this.
Go4 on iOS is stable for me
Sounds like you got a dud bro. I just got mine and I'm not experiencing any of the issues you are talking about other than the blind spot issue but that's obvious because it's a blind spot. And the detachable cameras are on the Inspire drones. Just get that one. There are options of drones to buy that fit your needs.
This is my second P4P, most of the issues started after firmware issue. The older models gimbal was able to be replaced without sending your bird in for repairs. That was a nice option to have.
i dont have none of those problems. only the gimbel tilt.
I know about how to adjust while flying, just never had to do it with my previous P3P.
I agree 100 percent, but after many calibrations later, no luck. Had to go back to old firmware. It works a little better overall.
“I don’t have none ... “ ... seriously? Dude is English you’re first language?
Jonathan Chicoine *your, don’t try to correct people.
Raphael Portegijs I deserved that, lol
Fly in the proper, legal range and you won't have any kind of range issues at all or video feed issues. Ohhhh what a genius I am.
pilotkisses wrong I fly in range and still have issues with my phantom 4pro doesnt. Matter what you do. Don't people know that the side senors only work in certain modes lol
I should make a video, but it would only have one pro... the camera quality. The P4P is the worst Phantom I've ever owned. I have 3 and regret getting rid of my P4s and P3.
I miss my P3P, I had no problems except the cracks forming on the body from flight. Just replace body.
Me too... I wish DJI would put the P4P camera on a P3
why do you say it's the worst phantom you've ever owned? specifics? I'm thinking of buying my first one . . . and was leaning toward the 4 pro.
To many small issues that make it less tolerable than previous model, especially the video feed being lost while flying and app crashing while flying. It was an improvement with my ipad 4 mini purchase. But why should i have to go buy another tablet because of compatibility issues. My Samsung 7egde doesn't even load the app anymore, that sucks, and my Samsung tablet works only half the time since last firmware update.
I'm on my third one and it will still get IMU and Compass errors mid-flight. That is very bad. That basically is your gyros and "guidance" system. It will kill your GPS and switch you to ATTI (manual) mode, mid-flight mode wich means a strong wind can push it around. I use my drones professional to film shipping on the Great Lakes and have been able to send every model since the Phantom 3 out a mile or 2 to get shots of ships on the water without any real worry. I will barely let either (I have 2 now. I bought two, sent one back for repairs. DJI replaced it, and the third one is doing what the other two were doing.) of my P4 Pros out beyond a few thousand feet. I don't trust them at all. Gimbal constantly goes crooked, IMU and Compass errors, constant high wind warnings (no wind present), vison sensor errors that cause it to get "stuck" 300 and 400 feet in the air. Like I said, this is the third P4P I've used (I've owned 7 different Phantoms )and all these errors have occurred on all three. It is almost unusable for aerial filming.
Almost every one of those issues are either operator error or their is a solution built in. Dropped signal, switch to 5.8, that's what its for. Vibration, balance you're props. Your the only person with that issue. Camera focus, its tap to focus so if you don't tap, it don't focus. Gotta send it back, no. Dji sells a complete gimbal assembly. Its can easilly be separated from the aircraft. Horizon tilt, you can adjust it in the app. App crash, get an apple devise.
Grayson Miller you should spend some time on DJIs forum.
I'm in phantom forums everyday and I stand by my previous statement. I have a p4 so I'm not just talking out my ass. I don't have any of those problems. I can easily fly 10,000ft in the jungle with no loss of video and I don't have the option to switch to 5.8ghz for video transmission. I don't, nor have I heard of any unstable flight at take off or landing. Perhaps you Ned to calibrate your IMU. That could explain your horizon tilt as well. Tap to focus will fix your focus issue. Even when its on auto focus, tap to focus anyway. I've taken my gimbal assembly off a few times and its just as easy if not easier than removing the p3 gimbal. 8 screws and it pops off. Two more screws folding the connections on and that's it, its off. Dji will mail you a replacement or you can get one on eBay. App crash, everybody knows djigo 4 is unstable on android. I've never crashed on my iPhone 6.
Grayson Miller why should someone have to shell out for an iPad/iPhone when they've spent £1500 on a drone? To have an app that simply works with your OS and doesn't crash all the time isn't a big ask, especially when you've forked over a grand over to them.
the problem is not the app bro, its the dumb Samsung, get rid of that stuff.
don't use a android tablet that's common sense my ipad never breaks up
Thanks just cancelled my p4p! Firmware! Hello?
I just quit watching after you called the drone "biiirrrd"once to many. Awful.
So my comments have been removed? Interesting, have a nice day. Unsubscribe......
Sorry, i actually re uploaded video and some of the comments were lost. I corrected some miss information. My apology.