I always laughed when I heard the term "hoe phase" as my comparison was that a guy who smokes for over a decade isnt going through a "smoking phase", he's a smoker... full stop.
@@MaxS535 Unless he says he quit... but then gets caught in the bathroom from time to time, with one in his mouth and laying on the air freshner like it's going out of style.
I mean, that just sounds you believe no one who smoked for 10 years could quit and never return to it, which is kind of moronic to be honest. Similarly to alcoholics or any other substance abusers (coffeine counts), one might abuse a substance for a long time and then quit, but it WOULD be beneficial to not produce environments in which they are easily pulled back into it. Such as a recovering alcoholic consciously choosing not to go to some family meeting because majority of his family are covert alcoholics, so such environment would put a strain on their willpower not to drink. And while willpowering through something is admirable, usually it's better to simply avoid the situation all together, and not all vices are created equal either. Some can be will powered through and suffer no repercussion what so ever, while others are literally impossible and they slowly erode your defenses over time, which sexual vice is one of. One could visit a friend that smokes weed and simply refuse the substance offered for a 1000 times, and while MAJORITY of people will succumb to it eventually and poof one out, it is THEORETICALLY possible not to. Sex though? Literally impossible. If you were to go to your friend's place, and hypothetically, he always had a paid prostitute in his apartment (so no effort is required by your part, similarly to them offering you a blunt) and she was always down to fuck, there's literally no person (or at least 0.00001% which is negligible by stats, even 1% is) who wouldn't fuck her. Best course to not fall into sexual deviancy is to avoid it all together, Islam got that part right (although it's not like many other cultures didn't get it right either, Islam is just a poster boy for harshness on sexual freedoms). tl;dr Smoking isn't same as hoeing around, not all sin is equal. Thinking that a smoker can't stop is downright stupid, but at the same time if one is to stop hoeing around, they need to proactively cut off any activities which make it easier. This goes for both genders, he/she says they stopped hoeing? Do they go to clubs? Yes? Then they didn't stop. And this can be asked for virtually any situation that makes even encountering other sex. To be honest, there's little hope for majority of them, as true rehabilitation would require DRASTIC changes of behavior, I'm talking if she hoed between 16 and 26, for me to believe that she stopped, she'd need to sit at home, be a house wife, have no female friends and doesn't leave the house unless it's groceries, getting kids somewhere, going to Church or going to her parents. That is how much needs to change for one to be truly rehabilitated from the sin. And if she says she stopped but didn't turn religious drop it like a hot potato, there's literally no one who stopped hoeing around without also becoming religious. @@AnthonySforza
Well yeah, somebody who's currently in a decade long state of smoking is a smoker. But if you haven't smoked in like a year, it's not inaccurate to say it was a phase that's in your past
After seeing this LATEST with all his backhanded comments on himself, I thought that it could be a joke channel, beforehand I thought it was more serious
This still is a very funny channel, BUT, it's ALSO one with greatly valuable, useful, and totally TRUE content... And that's part of the reason that it's so funny, just because of the sad realities of the utter ridiculousness of the whole "modern dating" and "modern woman" topics, LOL!... Just the terminology he uses, like "perma-hoe", are hilarious! (But sadly true)
girls aren't women. boys aren't men. it takes the comfort of a mother and the experience and mental strength of a father figure to raise kids so that they are able to become adults. you only have one or the other and you won't have a proper upbringing. once stuck at being a child for the rest of your life and instead of growing up becoming more jaded is a recipe for a terrible family of your own.
I think when someone is getting more or less what they need to be OK, they will never change. People change because their needs are not being met so they are forced to. Women basically never need to change since it's often easy for them to simply get their needs met all the time.
A girl once told me "You're just mad you didn't have one" in regards to the hoe phase.. Meanwhile I wanted a wife and kid at that stage in life. Men and women live two different lives.
Idk why being in a hoe phase is considered as an achievement for a girl in the first place. Sex is readily available. U don't need to do much to be a hoe. But not following the crowd, working on yourself & knowing what u want in life while it would be so easy to take the instant gratification path, that's the real work. It's good that u knew u wanted a wife n wanted to settle.
@@dr.mahima nah everyone knows it's not an achievement, even the hoes and "ex-hoes" (now takes more than 1 date until they F you, very special). theyre just trying to shame people into not judging them, but ofc this doesn't work very well and then they get bitter, which again makes thing worse. empowered independent women doing their thing, i guess. very impressive.
@dullknifefactory this aint a men and women issue. More of a person that seeks external validation vs those the find it within. Either sex, stay away from hoes
Most women don’t want a hoe phase… I’ve never wanted that, I’ve wanted to get married and have children since I started high school at least. I’ve questioned whether I really want it or not, but the more time I spend with my family and babysitting children, the more I want that. Look, there are awfully men and awful women out there. For all the women that channels like these criticize, you can hear just as much criticism from awful men on other channels by women. Men who manipulate women, don’t see them as people, act kind and get the women prey are then change and leave them. There are some awful men out there just as there are awful women. Women always have more to lose from a bad relationship because they can get pregnant. When a woman leaves a man in a divorce, boohoo I can’t see my kids and have to pay money for my children (he can usually still see his kids if he’s decent) If a man leaves a women, her career is stunted. She has children she has to make time for, has to work more hours, and has a harder time dating. Better looking men are seen as more competent and competence is very necessary to raise children. I fit man holds himself to high standards. Pretty much all women, even ugly ones, can have children. As a woman it’s better not to have kids than to have kids with a bad man. For a guy any ugly woman can give him kids, even if she isn’t the healthiest. That is why women date up.
So basically, you cant change people. Watch them closely to see if they're actions match their words. Asks questions about them and there past and LISTEN!!! trust your gut and value yourself! ❤
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink." Or, more accurately "You can lead a hoe to self-improvement, but you can't make her change."
So what you are saying is that for any Captains Save-A-Hoe out there its best to be humble about their rescue abilities. Many nice guys have gotten trapped and learned this stuff the hard way. Really like the growth chart and indicators of progress. Truly helpful!
yup, that's more or less it. Quitting hoe-ing is like quitting smoking or overeating. Sure, you CAN. But how many DO? It sometimes amazes me how people will forget that sex is just as addicting as all those other addicting things.
it was that video I saw on soft white underbelly with the prostitute exotic...his first video with her garnered all this sympathy from people ["start this woman a gofundme!!!"]. Then he brought her back for a follow up after he [softwhiteunderbelly] had done all this stuff for her like buying her an apartment and helping her with money for the kids then he started saying crazy things like you've been off the prostitution for a month I'm so proud of you, how do you feel now...and I was just thinking...this man is crazy...he's talking to her like she's magically changed...that's the feeling I had in my gut...in the follow up video to that he finds out that all that money he's been giving her like up to a thousand dollars a day was going to her pimp...THEN, like the friggen cherry on top she started a youtube channel and was basically throwing shade at this guy [softwhiteunderbelly]. I was so puzzled why this guy [softwhite] was trying to be her savior...instead of just being a good documentarian [which ina REALLY longform way is the best and most he can do]...at first I thought he was a complete idiot and fool...but then I realized he might have done it on purpose just to show that...people are people...if he's like next level genius he did it on purpose knowing that she'd screw him over and not change just so he could show the world that sometimes even trying to help people can actually completely backfire.@@hoe_math I was in a situation like that at one point in my life too though...I couldn't use willpower...my flesh to fight my flesh...so I know what her situation is like and I DO have sympathy for essentially being caught in an inescapable prison of a life...I finally gave up, threw in the towel and said God...I can't do it without you...I've tried so many times and only left with bitter failure. Every time I came back to God he was very patient with me and ALWAYS helped me get things back on track. I have to admit though...I became really judgmental Christian at some point because I thought that everything that I experienced has to be the EXACT same for other people...and in the exact same way...I think I've matured out of that and realize that everybody is unique and you gotta meet them where they are...and not everybody is at rock bottom like this prostitute was...man I really appreciate your videos though because it really cuts through the BS and lies...
Hoe Phase usually means, Men stopped answering. Now it's time to settle down... How insulting is that? Settle Down is probably the most insulting thing imaginable. You aren't the end goal, you are what they will lower themselves to settle for.
Im disgusted just by the thought of being the consolation prize of a woman just because she couldnt get what she really wanted. I would unironically prefer to die alone than that.
NO MORE LEFTOVERS… Let these broads “settle”. We are not second hand prizes as one guy stated above.. Winter is already here and they can “settle” for the cats and dogs that are readily able to be adopted…. If we ain’t her first option, we last, and I don’t know about y’all but I’ve had enough of that shit.
@sun--shine3296 to balance this point out, this applies to literal hoes, not all women. Being a hoe, and celebrating a hoe phase later is not the same as having a couple mistakes early on in life. When you find the one, they are not you "settling down" they are the best thing in your life. Women shouldn't celebrate their "fun days"
@@hoe_mathI feel like you hit the nail on the head with this narrator style of yours. I call this "Sperg Relationship Consulting" cause it sounds like you're trying to summarize the entire manosphere in a 5-minute video after heavily overdosing on adderall. And the funniest part is that the majority of young dudes watching this are the perfect audience for this type of thing, myself included. Godspeed.
@@hoe_mathI watched your Zones Video. I’m in the friend zone with a girl, but I asked her out and she said “…I really need to focus on myself after my last crash and burn…”, I ride a Triumph motorcycle and do a bunch of other masculine stuff, is there anything I can do to get to the husband zone? Edit: Update she blocked me and is ignoring me after a few really close nights.
I know a few people who really have put in incredible work for themselves; kicked bad habits (hard drugs) and replaced them with really good habits (gym multiple times a week, getting a better job and moving out, etc). Most people stay dormant and asleep, even us guys. Sand turns to glass under fire, but it’s up to ourselves to set the flame. Love the content. Keep up the great work. There’s a Nobel Prize in your future.
" Sand turns to glass under fire" I like that one, where I am from we say "Pressure turns coal (and by extension biological matter such as feces) to diamonds"
I did. I was an alcoholic degenerate as a teenager. Drank 6-7 days a week, crashed cars, got in fights regularly, arrested a few times, etc. When I was 22 (36 now so its been a while), I attempted to break up a fight at a party and was swiftly met with a bottle to the face. I was left with a bad concussion, 40+ stitches in my face, and damn near lost an eye. I dont know if I literally had sense smacked into me or what, but I changed dramatically after that. Cut the bs, cut out the degenerate friends I was running with, and cut out all the layers of crap I had built up over the years trying to fit in and please others. I stripped myself bare (metaphorically speaking) and rebuilt myself from the ground up. By 25, I became a Paramedic and a functioning member of society. Now, Im married to the love of my life, making 6 figures, own a nice home on an acre, and Im aggressively investing towards retirement. If I can do it, anyone can. But like many others have noted, you have to want to change. You cant save someone who doesnt want to be saved.
@@williamhermann6635 I’m very happy for your transformation. Sadly, as I wrote in my original comment, you are the exception, not the rule. I’m sure you know many who either don’t know how low they are, or simply don’t care. Your level of transformation is rare. It’s like losing weight, anyone can do it, the mechanics of it are simple, yet few people actually make that transformation for the long run. Again, my hat is off to you. All the best in 2024 and beyond.
@@Roccofan The only difference between me and everyone else stuck in that hole was I took responsibility for ending up in that hole and did something about it. I didnt mention it in my OP, but a big reason for my early degeneracy was anger towards my parents. Once I stopped blaming them and took control over my life, the rest was easy. I understand I am more of an exception than the rule. All I was pointing out is that it can be done. I shared my story so it may bring others hope. Im nobody special. Just a guy who had enough and took action. Learned to harnass all that negative energy in my soul and turned it into a force for good.
Trusting a woman who had “a phase” with a relationship is like trusting a recovering gambling addict with your finances or trust a guy who was an S-addict with your teen daughter
to sum it up, an object in motion stays in motion, a person on a path tends to stay on a path some people stray from the path but 90+% will not, so the path is a pretty reliable indicator of where they will end up most criminals stay criminals. most addicts stay addicts. most unhealthy people stay unhealthy. most successful people stay successful, as do the unsuccessful stay unsuccessful. the promiscuous tend to stay promiscuous, the chaotic and tumultuous tend to stay as such
As a career criminal, I can confirm. Been breaking the law for so damn long that just the thought of a legit 9-5 makes my stomach hurt and leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm slowly becoming what I used to despise. However, I'm only in my 30's so there's still hope for me
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At this point I'm convinced this guy is making this videos as a form of therapy
Honestly a lot of what he’s saying I’ve concluded over the years but never made TH-cam videos about it. I think the lower IQ people red pill rage. But the higher IQ people like this guy accept reality, harness it, and explain it. He’s probably also smart enough to know that If you talk about this shit in public people especially women will think you’re psychotic. But oh if you make TH-cam videos about it and get a million followers, then you’re a genius lol. Another reason of how women just wait at the finish line and don’t give a shit about you otherwise.
@@jonber9411we need to work within the laws so it is less cynical and more erring on the side of caution, you wouldn't go swimming in a group of sharks until you knew they only ate krill would you? If you know something is problematic you tend to avoid the cause of the problem.
lots of good wives were hoes in their past life. we all go thru phases, do dumb shit to test the waters and have fun when we're young. If they're straight up stunted thats one thing, but most become completely different people as they age.
Its impossible to leave your hoe phase,basically those memories are tied to your highest dopamine release. Which is validation, sexual arousal and eventually sex. During hoe phase these women do the freakiest things that they wont do with their future husband. Those memories are basically her core memories. She'll visit them pretty often, especially if its raining in "marriage paradise". As her future husband, youre fuxed.
This is so much better than RP content which monetizes young men's sexual frustration and turns it into rage. You make sure to include caveats and not make sweeping generalizations. Youre very precise in your language. I think if you maintain a calm demeanor and keep your focus on education while being fair AND critical of both sexes where its needed, youll really blow up in a genuine way (by genuinely helping people who are lost).
They're already trying to take him down on reddit, which is making him more famous. I've already seen a few female tubers breakdown his chart video and applaud him for the accuracy.
I appreciate how short this video is and your production values. The drawings are awesome. I say this as a graphic designer. I have a literal art degree. The lack of "polish" in the drawings is a selling point. It makes things feel "really damn simple" in a way slick slides would not. I also appreciate how you use your phone to record these videos. You do not have to put thought to "editing between different graphics". You can just get to the point and do it in one take. That is brilliant!
@@brianmihlfeith7135 I think that would decrease the persuasiveness. The shakiness ADDS to the "this is fucking simple" bluntness of his works. I assume you mean something like this? th-cam.com/video/w0TSTaKD-Ug/w-d-xo.html Hoe Math has communicated how he is really, really stretched to the limits at the moment and I would also say that he is in a "flow state" for creating these videos. Maybe once his cash flow gets going he could hire an assistant to stabilize videos and create a second channel to post them called "hoe_math_stabilized".
I think the girl who chased you in the corridor of a Motel 6 "to read your palms" wasn't just a 304 but most likely a "honey pot" or "bait" for criminal activities, such as human trafficking. This has become increasingly common, especially in road stop motels in rural areas. You've probably saved yourself a lot of trouble by remaining chaste that night. Beware of strangers who throw themselves at you when they shouldn't have any reason to. They might have ulterior motives. This is for both men and women.
Wow, I came for the jokes, but your observation about looking for people who have made positive change in their own lives is one I don’t think I’ve ever seen expressed so clearly. Great video.
Men, you have got to make sure a woman has done the work of personal development. She has to prove she has went WITHIN, not outside her self. I've transformed my body several times, went three years not drinking, went one year celibate, went to therapy, and stayed isolated for a bit to drop my co-decency, got rid of social media (excluding this app obviously). I receive lots of respect from men cause I can SAY NO. To me, it wasn't a big deal bc I'm like cant everyone diet down for 20 weeks and do a ton of cardio to do a bodybuilding show? Apparently, it's a great feat which I'm now realizing attracts many men cause it shows I can push through adversity. I'm a cute girl with a decent fit physique...I attract but due to my discipline, I can retain bc my resume shows men "wow she's willing to get uncomfortable for delayed gratification" That's why it bothers many women when their man goes to the gym, because they can't fathom doing the hard thing. It sounds counterintuitive, but you need to find a woman who can SAY NO to the easy things and SAY YES to the hard things. A woman who says yes to everything will say yes to anyone.
A lot of hoeing behaviors are trauma-related. The rest is programmimg from growing up on the US plantation. As people heal trauma, hoeing becomes less of a coping skill.
It gets interesting as you get older. I can detect hoes since my mid 30s. Women in their 40s go through another hoe phase right before or around when they sense the coming of menopause and impending dryness. Men who missed the fun of their teens and 20s have more hoeness to enjoy but this time less drama and games because long term is not expected on both sides. This was a fun watch and nice analytical mix.
@@scorpionfiresome3834 Eh, but things like "desire" and "beauty" are kinda subjective. Not everybody has the same standards. Not everyone is looking for the same things. Even two people who supposedly want the same thing may want them to come about in totally different ways or have different expectations about the experience. Example: Two people both want a pizza, but one wants to pick their's up because its cheaper and they're on the way to a soccer game, while the other wants their's delivered because they're at home watching motorsports on TV. The soccer mom wants a pepperoni pizza while the TV viewer wants a supreme. You can kind of apply the same logic to relationships. Two people may both want marriage but have totally different expectations of what "marriage" is supposed to be.
Thank you! I consider myself already blowing up -- I have only been at this for one month. I've already got 2.6k hours of views on yt and almost 180k followers on tt. That's BLOWN UP for one month! Appreciated!
This is the best social dynamics channel in internet history so far. We used to go on and on in message boards trying to figure this stuff out and were lucky to get 25% of it.
I recently dropped out on my second year in hoeology 😔it’s hard forcing myself getting back out there knowing this information firsthand. Can you make a video about this? Thank you! 🤩
you have to know her history (sometimes they lie), you have to watch her ability to CONTROL herself, and you have to kind of do the math. Was it a good history? Good. done. Bad history? Can she control herself? Good. Probably mostly safe. Bad history with no self-control? get outta there. There's never 0 risk, but you get to judge the risk you want to take. @@godofflashiness
Honestly your content is probably both really good and informative for people who are just coming out to the world and also super destructive and crushing. Truth hurts. Honestly, the information your channel has given me has put me into a serious depression for a bit, albeit for some more complicated feelings other than "world evil"
You’ve become a reference. I’ll look to you for clarity, and refer you to others, especially young, even the very young, for foundational awareness. Very well done with your life.
Fellow autist here, 0:48 I would add "easily" fixable. Since when something breaks someone down to where they have little to no ego left, it is the easiest to change their behavior.
The capacity to grow oneself from my personal experience mentoring others and myself is the ability to ignore the ego or be aware of the ego and even more rarely break their own ego, that is when you can enact the most change in your life. My view on life is like leveling up skills, and I'm really methodical about it . Please comment down anything that could help expand my world view and skill level in breaking down human relations it is all appreciated
Bro I have done the research and i am compelled to share with you my findings. sadly their ability to change other things about their lives, (even the amazing ability to quit smoking anything eg crack cigs meth etc) is definitely NOT a reliable indicator! You would think there could be a correlation between the ability to change other things about theirself and the ability to change from the "ho phase", but over the years i have observed several subjects out here in the field and according to my findings, there is none at all whatsoever. Thanks for your work prof.
I think the idea was that if she managed to change something else, then you can trust her a bit more when she says her hoe phase was just a phase. But she can definitely quit smoking and simply choose to stay a hoe. But there's definitely more to it. There's even girls that never had a hoe phase and you'd think they're actually virtuous and then boom they start their hoe phase while married. Truth is the environment heavily encourages hoe behavior and it appeals to their nature a lot.
@@mrkiky just a phase sounds good if it was true that's beautiful....As for the comment, he is talking about quitting smoking meth and crack or feti not cigs. It's a powerful accomplishment to overcome drug addiction! Most people can't do it, male or female! I think he's saying that the ability to quit sex addiction is a totally different thing. Basically he's saying that in his years of research in the field, according to his findings, there is no correlation between these two abilities. Lol. So go ahead and find out if you think it makes her more trustworthy when she tell you it was just a phase! lol peace ✌️ don't forget there's plenty of fish in the sea and we only live once. Good luck
@@devilkilla77 Yes, that's what the OP is saying, but the video is saying that if she can kick a bad habit (including smoking) then she can kick hoeing as well, so when she says that she's not a hoe anymore maybe it's true. Personally I would not trust anyone like that, no more than I would trust a former druggie to not start using again when he goes through a rough time and the drug is right under his nose. My theory is that addiction is never kicked, you're just abstaining yourself, you're an inactive addict, but the pressure never goes away. I've seen countless smokers start smoking again after years of not touching a cig. Once you know how it feels, you never go back to the state of not knowing, whether it's drugs or hoeing or gambling or whatever. You're always in danger of restarting if you're hit by a powerful emotional event and if the object of your addiction is thrown right in front of you.
Remember dating a buncha girls my senior year in college because thought, "that's what you're supposed to do." Quit because was totally stressed out. Made me reevaluate a girl I liked with a high body count because for her, this was normal.
This is a really good point. I notice because of this people say dating others that work out and imorove on themselves is iften a safe bet since they really put the effort into changing
It's true, it's hard to turn down easy things based on how you think it might develop in the future, and it's hard to still wonder if you might the right choice turning down the offer. I went Monk mode in 2014 and I've tuned down some things that may (?) have developed but who knows?, because I didn't want to "feel anymore of this."
It's not good for you, but some people get addicted to it. A lot of us were raised to believe that it didn't matter, and now we're realizing that it does
Somebody should take this whole set up. This guys got going to make a TV show out of it. I mean really he’s got 15 storylines just in this whole set up.
The grow and hoe pie chart. It killed me 💀 this has got to be the f****** best channel on TH-cam 💯 my dad always told me if we would write a book about women we could be rich but no one knows how this dude knows how and he needs to write a book and get 💰
One of the few relationships where I did the ending was with someone who had this negative trait and openly expressed no interest in improving it, no personal growth.
I wonder how many women, as a percentage, actually seek to improve themselves on a decently large level. I mean quitting a bad habit, losing a good amount of weight, hitting the gym, etc. I see guys do this all the time but I hardly ever see women do this. When I went to the gym, I did see women there, but were they the type of women who were always going to go there, or were they women who had problems and fixed themselves? I need more data.
I mostly started to really grow myself since university entry a year ago. It happened because since before university i noticed more and more unlikable and bad things about me (I’m actually better than most people, but I noticed that I definitely needed to work much on me). These things made me feel bad and I started to chance since then positively and think about my own personality and so on. But on many things I will still have to change much, as I am aware and I know I will be able to do it mostly, maybe some points are very hard to change about oneself completely (meaning you can improve the behaviour but it’s hard to improve it perfectly/ remove the bad habit completely) anyways i need to collect more experiences, be more confident (which I luckily picked up in the last few months because I learned more about myself) and remove weaknesses as said. And I consider it a very important thing to do. That’s why it upsets me to see that most people are unable to pick themselves up to improve themselves so that they stay weak, incompetent emotionally immature, unproductive, and just stupid. On the other Side i love to witness other being able to do it or start to do it. And especially for the people close to me I hope that they realise how to improve themselves and start with it. Because most people are mediocre versions of themselves (and just bluntly said, a bit pathetic) before they start to improve themselves and it’s a sad thing to see how they don’t bloom in the fullest. Some people around you will see their own problems and have the desire to change but don’t make it there yet. Some will in the near future, other need time some of them might never make it, you should try to push those people to accelerate their process or even kickstart it. But you should not harass them. People who on the other hand are completely mediocre and completely content with it are just pigs and not worth your time. My point is that this is why I value this kind of trait in a potential partner and agree with hoeMath that people who self improve generally less likely cheat.
Good on you for saying no to temptation. Learning to do that is hard, and I'm proud of you. I hope you keep it up and are able to become the kind of man that can have a happy long term relationship.
You are a very insightful man, but. The logic of: "interacting with women is making me lose all my trust in women, therefore I shall interact less with them" is just such blatant and deliberate denial I don't even know man. I think it'd make for an interesting short if you talked about your logic there.
He isn`t avoiding contact with women because he lost his faith in them or something. He admits in other videos that he got older and less attractive and lost his status over the pandemic. He started to make videos dragging women for being hoes exactly the moment he could`t get hot women to sleep with him any more. Funny coincidence.
I would really like to have a paper copy of that chart he uses to classify character traits, etc, so that I could frame it and put it up on my wall to study regularly, AND to be a conversation piece when anyone visits me!
I don’t understand how you being with more women has made you trust them less, whether you sleep with them or not doesn’t change anything. It just makes you more aware of whatever you’re learning.
I've done the Math Guy's if she isn't a virgin . You won't be happy and neither will she . If you want her as a wife or something serious. . It's science .I always remember woman in high-school telling me the can never forget there firsts . They chemical bond to those men and when those men do not bond with them it creates a unhealthy trauma that will be used against the next man .
This is kinda fascinating. As for the ability to grow, I started learning languages with duolingo and how to program with apps but then I don’t have time for a guy because I’m too busy growing 🤷♀️
Technically you could still be a bad person and learn new things as learning new things doesn't necessarily mean that you change but I'm proud of you keep it up
It's not about time, a relationship doesn't take that much time. It's that you're gathering masculine energy. You're learning masculine things instead of feminine ones.
@@jamesjonnes hmm, since I moved back from Delaware to Virginia, I learned how to garden using companion planting, how to can, how to hunt with a bow, how to make wine, how to play guitar, how to speak German, Spanish and French, how to read Tarot, how to make things out of glass, how to pack a bug out bag, how to give a proper bj, how to avoid narcissists….
Yes. Went through a phase that more girls only made me more cynical so I am now more selective and go with gals mainly who are disabled as they face challenges others don’t have.
Bro, you need to publish your charts and put them all into a comprehensive book for new daters, dads with dating sons, hell, anyone who is trying to figure out women.
Hey are you ever gunna make a video explaining the galaxy effect? Where you mentioned in a short about how a hoes perception of a guy’s physical appearance can change?
Just wanted to say good job on saying no. It's pretty tough to come to that point of self actualizatiin. I totally understand everything you're saying in this video and trying to get back to the point of valuing women.
I noticed with many people that the higher their body counts the lower their trust for the other sex, often which was also correlated with misandry or misogyny. On the flip side, we know that incels also tend to be misogynistic. So I think that just having a balanced approach to life and other people is probably the best compromise, unsurprisingly.
Can you make a video on how to raise children so that they rank high in that AQUAL chart? After all you said it is difficult to change as an adult so we need to train children in doing that.
I always laughed when I heard the term "hoe phase" as my comparison was that a guy who smokes for over a decade isnt going through a "smoking phase", he's a smoker... full stop.
one doesn’t declare they’ve recovered at their intervention
Unless he quit a few years ago
@@MaxS535
Unless he says he quit... but then gets caught in the bathroom from time to time, with one in his mouth and laying on the air freshner like it's going out of style.
I mean, that just sounds you believe no one who smoked for 10 years could quit and never return to it, which is kind of moronic to be honest. Similarly to alcoholics or any other substance abusers (coffeine counts), one might abuse a substance for a long time and then quit, but it WOULD be beneficial to not produce environments in which they are easily pulled back into it. Such as a recovering alcoholic consciously choosing not to go to some family meeting because majority of his family are covert alcoholics, so such environment would put a strain on their willpower not to drink. And while willpowering through something is admirable, usually it's better to simply avoid the situation all together, and not all vices are created equal either. Some can be will powered through and suffer no repercussion what so ever, while others are literally impossible and they slowly erode your defenses over time, which sexual vice is one of. One could visit a friend that smokes weed and simply refuse the substance offered for a 1000 times, and while MAJORITY of people will succumb to it eventually and poof one out, it is THEORETICALLY possible not to. Sex though? Literally impossible. If you were to go to your friend's place, and hypothetically, he always had a paid prostitute in his apartment (so no effort is required by your part, similarly to them offering you a blunt) and she was always down to fuck, there's literally no person (or at least 0.00001% which is negligible by stats, even 1% is) who wouldn't fuck her. Best course to not fall into sexual deviancy is to avoid it all together, Islam got that part right (although it's not like many other cultures didn't get it right either, Islam is just a poster boy for harshness on sexual freedoms).
tl;dr Smoking isn't same as hoeing around, not all sin is equal. Thinking that a smoker can't stop is downright stupid, but at the same time if one is to stop hoeing around, they need to proactively cut off any activities which make it easier. This goes for both genders, he/she says they stopped hoeing? Do they go to clubs? Yes? Then they didn't stop. And this can be asked for virtually any situation that makes even encountering other sex. To be honest, there's little hope for majority of them, as true rehabilitation would require DRASTIC changes of behavior, I'm talking if she hoed between 16 and 26, for me to believe that she stopped, she'd need to sit at home, be a house wife, have no female friends and doesn't leave the house unless it's groceries, getting kids somewhere, going to Church or going to her parents. That is how much needs to change for one to be truly rehabilitated from the sin. And if she says she stopped but didn't turn religious drop it like a hot potato, there's literally no one who stopped hoeing around without also becoming religious.
@@AnthonySforza
Well yeah, somebody who's currently in a decade long state of smoking is a smoker. But if you haven't smoked in like a year, it's not inaccurate to say it was a phase that's in your past
In all seriousness, I really thought this was a funny channel at FIRST, but this turned into very top notch quality content
I agree. I love the fact that he's not wasting time on your typical self help advice, which makes me so angry.
After seeing this LATEST with all his backhanded comments on himself, I thought that it could be a joke channel, beforehand I thought it was more serious
It's both lol, that's amazing
This still is a very funny channel, BUT, it's ALSO one with greatly valuable, useful, and totally TRUE content... And that's part of the reason that it's so funny, just because of the sad realities of the utter ridiculousness of the whole "modern dating" and "modern woman" topics, LOL!...
Just the terminology he uses, like "perma-hoe", are hilarious! (But sadly true)
Same, I see it as educationally funny.
All jokes aside the "can't do personal growth" thing really blew my mind. Its so crystalizing and true.
Yup, either grow or.... "garden tool".
girls aren't women.
boys aren't men.
it takes the comfort of a mother and the experience and mental strength of a father figure to raise kids so that they are able to become adults.
you only have one or the other and you won't have a proper upbringing.
once stuck at being a child for the rest of your life and instead of growing up becoming more jaded is a recipe for a terrible family of your own.
That applies to soooo many people (including a lot of the people in these comments lol)
Same bro same. The truth is more often funny than not funny.
I think when someone is getting more or less what they need to be OK, they will never change. People change because their needs are not being met so they are forced to. Women basically never need to change since it's often easy for them to simply get their needs met all the time.
“Don’t save her, she don’t want to be saved”
Some "do" 😊
@@dharma6525Nope. 😂
@@dharma6525 stay in the streets
@@dharma6525Save yourself. Don’t burden someone else, parasite.
Don't be captain save-a-hoe
A girl once told me "You're just mad you didn't have one" in regards to the hoe phase..
Meanwhile I wanted a wife and kid at that stage in life. Men and women live two different lives.
Idk why being in a hoe phase is considered as an achievement for a girl in the first place. Sex is readily available. U don't need to do much to be a hoe. But not following the crowd, working on yourself & knowing what u want in life while it would be so easy to take the instant gratification path, that's the real work. It's good that u knew u wanted a wife n wanted to settle.
@dr.mahima
Yeah totally over that now lmao
@@dr.mahima nah everyone knows it's not an achievement, even the hoes and "ex-hoes" (now takes more than 1 date until they F you, very special). theyre just trying to shame people into not judging them, but ofc this doesn't work very well and then they get bitter, which again makes thing worse. empowered independent women doing their thing, i guess. very impressive.
@dullknifefactory this aint a men and women issue. More of a person that seeks external validation vs those the find it within. Either sex, stay away from hoes
Most women don’t want a hoe phase… I’ve never wanted that, I’ve wanted to get married and have children since I started high school at least. I’ve questioned whether I really want it or not, but the more time I spend with my family and babysitting children, the more I want that.
Look, there are awfully men and awful women out there. For all the women that channels like these criticize, you can hear just as much criticism from awful men on other channels by women. Men who manipulate women, don’t see them as people, act kind and get the women prey are then change and leave them. There are some awful men out there just as there are awful women.
Women always have more to lose from a bad relationship because they can get pregnant.
When a woman leaves a man in a divorce, boohoo I can’t see my kids and have to pay money for my children (he can usually still see his kids if he’s decent)
If a man leaves a women, her career is stunted. She has children she has to make time for, has to work more hours, and has a harder time dating.
Better looking men are seen as more competent and competence is very necessary to raise children. I fit man holds himself to high standards.
Pretty much all women, even ugly ones, can have children. As a woman it’s better not to have kids than to have kids with a bad man. For a guy any ugly woman can give him kids, even if she isn’t the healthiest. That is why women date up.
So basically, you cant change people. Watch them closely to see if they're actions match their words. Asks questions about them and there past and LISTEN!!! trust your gut and value yourself! ❤
Yeah, because you're not special you by yourself can't change people. Experiences and life changes people, not you and your insignificant anecdotes
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@Dingbobber im wondering if he has a disrespectful auto correct and now YOU
@@fourtruths3324 Nahhh, most people are dumb and don't even learn from experience. They simply brush them off.
@@Dingbobber He scored the hat trick of "their" homonyms lol. No offense, just messin around.
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink."
Or, more accurately
"You can lead a hoe to self-improvement, but you can't make her change."
"You can lead a hoe to self-improvement, but you can't make her stop sucking all these dicks!"
"A thirsty horse will always want to drink."
Use 'horticulture' in a sentence.
You can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think.
@@malachi405Is this from something? I've heard that in a bar before but I thought that was it. (Dez - Horticulture)
Dot Parker.
'If all the girls at the Yale Prom were laid end to end...I wouldn't be a bit surprised.'
So what you are saying is that for any Captains Save-A-Hoe out there its best to be humble about their rescue abilities. Many nice guys have gotten trapped and learned this stuff the hard way. Really like the growth chart and indicators of progress. Truly helpful!
yup, that's more or less it. Quitting hoe-ing is like quitting smoking or overeating. Sure, you CAN. But how many DO? It sometimes amazes me how people will forget that sex is just as addicting as all those other addicting things.
Big time. That’s a huge way many of the really crazy ones trap guys.
@@Hay_Bay Honey trap
it was that video I saw on soft white underbelly with the prostitute exotic...his first video with her garnered all this sympathy from people ["start this woman a gofundme!!!"]. Then he brought her back for a follow up after he [softwhiteunderbelly] had done all this stuff for her like buying her an apartment and helping her with money for the kids then he started saying crazy things like you've been off the prostitution for a month I'm so proud of you, how do you feel now...and I was just thinking...this man is crazy...he's talking to her like she's magically changed...that's the feeling I had in my gut...in the follow up video to that he finds out that all that money he's been giving her like up to a thousand dollars a day was going to her pimp...THEN, like the friggen cherry on top she started a youtube channel and was basically throwing shade at this guy [softwhiteunderbelly]. I was so puzzled why this guy [softwhite] was trying to be her savior...instead of just being a good documentarian [which ina REALLY longform way is the best and most he can do]...at first I thought he was a complete idiot and fool...but then I realized he might have done it on purpose just to show that...people are people...if he's like next level genius he did it on purpose knowing that she'd screw him over and not change just so he could show the world that sometimes even trying to help people can actually completely backfire.@@hoe_math
I was in a situation like that at one point in my life too though...I couldn't use willpower...my flesh to fight my flesh...so I know what her situation is like and I DO have sympathy for essentially being caught in an inescapable prison of a life...I finally gave up, threw in the towel and said God...I can't do it without you...I've tried so many times and only left with bitter failure. Every time I came back to God he was very patient with me and ALWAYS helped me get things back on track.
I have to admit though...I became really judgmental Christian at some point because I thought that everything that I experienced has to be the EXACT same for other people...and in the exact same way...I think I've matured out of that and realize that everybody is unique and you gotta meet them where they are...and not everybody is at rock bottom like this prostitute was...man I really appreciate your videos though because it really cuts through the BS and lies...
@@hoe_math ... To thing that you are sharing all of this condensed info for free... Thank you man, god bless 💯
Even if women "grow out of it" a hoe phase is never a phase. Because no matter what, it will come with a very large amount of baggage.
They're all gross whether they still are it or not.
Hoe Phase usually means, Men stopped answering. Now it's time to settle down... How insulting is that?
Settle Down is probably the most insulting thing imaginable. You aren't the end goal, you are what they will lower themselves to settle for.
When they say they are ready to settle down, just think of it as the aeration being turned off at a sewage plant.
Im disgusted just by the thought of being the consolation prize of a woman just because she couldnt get what she really wanted. I would unironically prefer to die alone than that.
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NO MORE LEFTOVERS… Let these broads “settle”. We are not second hand prizes as one guy stated above.. Winter is already here and they can “settle” for the cats and dogs that are readily able to be adopted…. If we ain’t her first option, we last, and I don’t know about y’all but I’ve had enough of that shit.
@sun--shine3296 to balance this point out, this applies to literal hoes, not all women. Being a hoe, and celebrating a hoe phase later is not the same as having a couple mistakes early on in life.
When you find the one, they are not you "settling down" they are the best thing in your life. Women shouldn't celebrate their "fun days"
“Perma Hoe” is going to be used in text books someday thanks to this hero
The equation
Hoe Phase = Perma Hoe
has now permanently become part of the English language
You are growing like crazy. I hope you can do a living out of having a degree on hoe math ❤
I should be able to. many income streams
@PassportBachelor takes time. you have to apply
@@hoe_mathI feel like you hit the nail on the head with this narrator style of yours. I call this "Sperg Relationship Consulting" cause it sounds like you're trying to summarize the entire manosphere in a 5-minute video after heavily overdosing on adderall.
And the funniest part is that the majority of young dudes watching this are the perfect audience for this type of thing, myself included. Godspeed.
"gorillions must learn" -chud ius maximus@@nikolaykopernik9124
@@hoe_mathI watched your Zones Video. I’m in the friend zone with a girl, but I asked her out and she said “…I really need to focus on myself after my last crash and burn…”, I ride a Triumph motorcycle and do a bunch of other masculine stuff, is there anything I can do to get to the husband zone?
Edit: Update she blocked me and is ignoring me after a few really close nights.
I know a few people who really have put in incredible work for themselves; kicked bad habits (hard drugs) and replaced them with really good habits (gym multiple times a week, getting a better job and moving out, etc). Most people stay dormant and asleep, even us guys. Sand turns to glass under fire, but it’s up to ourselves to set the flame.
Love the content. Keep up the great work. There’s a Nobel Prize in your future.
You can change bad habits. You cant change bad natural instincts.
" Sand turns to glass under fire"
I like that one, where I am from we say "Pressure turns coal (and by extension biological matter such as feces) to diamonds"
Id rather stay sand than glass - it's more solid and cannot be shattered
@@dharma6525
Yeah, but the old Russian proverb: [Что] коню/кобыле брод, [то] курице - потоп...
"What is a ford for a horse, is a flood for a hen"
@@dharma6525sand has no purpose except to get stepped on
Finding someone with the ability to change themselves and grow is RARE.
Yes, that is why so many people are fate or on a drug like alcohol or cigarettes.
I did. I was an alcoholic degenerate as a teenager. Drank 6-7 days a week, crashed cars, got in fights regularly, arrested a few times, etc. When I was 22 (36 now so its been a while), I attempted to break up a fight at a party and was swiftly met with a bottle to the face. I was left with a bad concussion, 40+ stitches in my face, and damn near lost an eye. I dont know if I literally had sense smacked into me or what, but I changed dramatically after that. Cut the bs, cut out the degenerate friends I was running with, and cut out all the layers of crap I had built up over the years trying to fit in and please others. I stripped myself bare (metaphorically speaking) and rebuilt myself from the ground up. By 25, I became a Paramedic and a functioning member of society. Now, Im married to the love of my life, making 6 figures, own a nice home on an acre, and Im aggressively investing towards retirement. If I can do it, anyone can. But like many others have noted, you have to want to change. You cant save someone who doesnt want to be saved.
@@williamhermann6635 I’m very happy for your transformation. Sadly, as I wrote in my original comment, you are the exception, not the rule. I’m sure you know many who either don’t know how low they are, or simply don’t care. Your level of transformation is rare. It’s like losing weight, anyone can do it, the mechanics of it are simple, yet few people actually make that transformation for the long run. Again, my hat is off to you. All the best in 2024 and beyond.
@@Roccofan The only difference between me and everyone else stuck in that hole was I took responsibility for ending up in that hole and did something about it. I didnt mention it in my OP, but a big reason for my early degeneracy was anger towards my parents. Once I stopped blaming them and took control over my life, the rest was easy. I understand I am more of an exception than the rule. All I was pointing out is that it can be done. I shared my story so it may bring others hope. Im nobody special. Just a guy who had enough and took action. Learned to harnass all that negative energy in my soul and turned it into a force for good.
Trusting a woman who had “a phase” with a relationship is like trusting a recovering gambling addict with your finances or trust a guy who was an S-addict with your teen daughter
"trusting a recovering gambling addict with your finances " you made my day dear person
to sum it up, an object in motion stays in motion, a person on a path tends to stay on a path
some people stray from the path but 90+% will not, so the path is a pretty reliable indicator of where they will end up
most criminals stay criminals. most addicts stay addicts. most unhealthy people stay unhealthy. most successful people stay successful, as do the unsuccessful stay unsuccessful.
the promiscuous tend to stay promiscuous, the chaotic and tumultuous tend to stay as such
Agreed, are you capable of change? Sure. But that’s for the next guy to figure out, not me 😂
As a career criminal, I can confirm. Been breaking the law for so damn long that just the thought of a legit 9-5 makes my stomach hurt and leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm slowly becoming what I used to despise. However, I'm only in my 30's so there's still hope for me
At this point I'm convinced this guy is making this videos as a form of therapy
Honestly a lot of what he’s saying I’ve concluded over the years but never made TH-cam videos about it. I think the lower IQ people red pill rage. But the higher IQ people like this guy accept reality, harness it, and explain it.
He’s probably also smart enough to know that If you talk about this shit in public people especially women will think you’re psychotic. But oh if you make TH-cam videos about it and get a million followers, then you’re a genius lol.
Another reason of how women just wait at the finish line and don’t give a shit about you otherwise.
Cynicism is rampant in modern society
@@jonber9411we need to work within the laws so it is less cynical and more erring on the side of caution, you wouldn't go swimming in a group of sharks until you knew they only ate krill would you? If you know something is problematic you tend to avoid the cause of the problem.
When you are privy to a great many terrible truths it can sometimes be therapeutic to share your knowledge
It's not a "phase". It's hoe or wife. It's lifestyle and mindset.
lots of good wives were hoes in their past life. we all go thru phases, do dumb shit to test the waters and have fun when we're young. If they're straight up stunted thats one thing, but most become completely different people as they age.
Its impossible to leave your hoe phase,basically those memories are tied to your highest dopamine release. Which is validation, sexual arousal and eventually sex. During hoe phase these women do the freakiest things that they wont do with their future husband. Those memories are basically her core memories. She'll visit them pretty often, especially if its raining in "marriage paradise". As her future husband, youre fuxed.
This is so much better than RP content which monetizes young men's sexual frustration and turns it into rage. You make sure to include caveats and not make sweeping generalizations. Youre very precise in your language. I think if you maintain a calm demeanor and keep your focus on education while being fair AND critical of both sexes where its needed, youll really blow up in a genuine way (by genuinely helping people who are lost).
That's the easiest way to make content tho
@@sned_dunesFalse, if it's so easy why aren't you rich off of it?
@@TheSeth256 Morals?
Agree
They're already trying to take him down on reddit, which is making him more famous. I've already seen a few female tubers breakdown his chart video and applaud him for the accuracy.
I appreciate how short this video is and your production values. The drawings are awesome. I say this as a graphic designer. I have a literal art degree. The lack of "polish" in the drawings is a selling point. It makes things feel "really damn simple" in a way slick slides would not.
I also appreciate how you use your phone to record these videos. You do not have to put thought to "editing between different graphics". You can just get to the point and do it in one take. That is brilliant!
Sure, but can he please turn on the image stabilization for the people who easily get motion sickness? The shakiness is puke inducing.
Thanks
@@brianmihlfeith7135 I think that would decrease the persuasiveness. The shakiness ADDS to the "this is fucking simple" bluntness of his works.
I assume you mean something like this?
th-cam.com/video/w0TSTaKD-Ug/w-d-xo.html
Hoe Math has communicated how he is really, really stretched to the limits at the moment and I would also say that he is in a "flow state" for creating these videos. Maybe once his cash flow gets going he could hire an assistant to stabilize videos and create a second channel to post them called "hoe_math_stabilized".
I think the girl who chased you in the corridor of a Motel 6 "to read your palms" wasn't just a 304 but most likely a "honey pot" or "bait" for criminal activities, such as human trafficking. This has become increasingly common, especially in road stop motels in rural areas. You've probably saved yourself a lot of trouble by remaining chaste that night. Beware of strangers who throw themselves at you when they shouldn't have any reason to. They might have ulterior motives. This is for both men and women.
Really happy to see more people looking at things through spiral dynamics :D
You trust them more than I do.
only if they show they can change which is not yet
@@hoe_math I have never seen a single woman change. Especially not in this modern fifth wave feminism world.
@@Stopinvadingmyhardware it's rare. usually her teen behavior is her 40s behavior, just with more clothing on
@@hoe_math Why my children will never attend public school
inst it legally mandatory to goto public skool@@Stopinvadingmyhardware
Another great lecture on personality. One can take away this info and use it evaluate people in so many different aspects
exactly
Wow, I came for the jokes, but your observation about looking for people who have made positive change in their own lives is one I don’t think I’ve ever seen expressed so clearly. Great video.
People do not decide their futures, they decide their habits and their habits decide their futures.
F. Matthias Alexander
most people don't decide their habits, either.
they get addicted to whatever forms of dopamine hits them best.
Men, you have got to make sure a woman has done the work of personal development. She has to prove she has went WITHIN, not outside her self. I've transformed my body several times, went three years not drinking, went one year celibate, went to therapy, and stayed isolated for a bit to drop my co-decency, got rid of social media (excluding this app obviously). I receive lots of respect from men cause I can SAY NO. To me, it wasn't a big deal bc I'm like cant everyone diet down for 20 weeks and do a ton of cardio to do a bodybuilding show? Apparently, it's a great feat which I'm now realizing attracts many men cause it shows I can push through adversity. I'm a cute girl with a decent fit physique...I attract but due to my discipline, I can retain bc my resume shows men "wow she's willing to get uncomfortable for delayed gratification" That's why it bothers many women when their man goes to the gym, because they can't fathom doing the hard thing. It sounds counterintuitive, but you need to find a woman who can SAY NO to the easy things and SAY YES to the hard things. A woman who says yes to everything will say yes to anyone.
Thank you and we’ll said!
"You need to find a woman who can SAY NO to the easy things and SAY YES to the hard things"
Nailed it. (Goes the other way for us guys as well.)
Hoe phase doesn't exist. They either are or aren't. But once are, it's always permanent. Like chocolate stains.
I want chocolate.
Mad respect. I can not conceive of a situation where i am single and a girl 'sleeper-keeper' offers herself on a silver platter and i would say 'no'.
The trust-versus-body-count relationship/diagram is accurate. The more I experience women, the less I have confidence in them.
Dude I just discovered this channel and I'm freaken impressed by your analysis!!!😂😂😂😂😂
A lot of hoeing behaviors are trauma-related. The rest is programmimg from growing up on the US plantation. As people heal trauma, hoeing becomes less of a coping skill.
Except most traumas remain untreated and such behaviors only exacerbate them.
@@Leonhart_93 Yep.... I'm a therapist, I can attest. 🖖🏾
Male validation
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 literally.
DING DING DING! you got it!
It gets interesting as you get older. I can detect hoes since my mid 30s. Women in their 40s go through another hoe phase right before or around when they sense the coming of menopause and impending dryness. Men who missed the fun of their teens and 20s have more hoeness to enjoy but this time less drama and games because long term is not expected on both sides. This was a fun watch and nice analytical mix.
Prime candidates for my ‘hoe phase’
please don't give me hope, I know full well my 40s and 50s will be just as lonely as my 20s
@@guillaumejoop6437 that mindset is the reason you will stay that way.
@@burnttoaster6313it’s hardly a mindset, if you’re undesirable in your youth, then getting old and decaying over the years won’t help.
@@scorpionfiresome3834 Eh, but things like "desire" and "beauty" are kinda subjective.
Not everybody has the same standards. Not everyone is looking for the same things.
Even two people who supposedly want the same thing may want them to come about in totally different ways or have different expectations about the experience.
Example: Two people both want a pizza, but one wants to pick their's up because its cheaper and they're on the way to a soccer game, while the other wants their's delivered because they're at home watching motorsports on TV. The soccer mom wants a pepperoni pizza while the TV viewer wants a supreme.
You can kind of apply the same logic to relationships. Two people may both want marriage but have totally different expectations of what "marriage" is supposed to be.
I cant wait for you to blow up man. These videos are 🤌
Im loving the color btw
Thank you! I consider myself already blowing up -- I have only been at this for one month. I've already got 2.6k hours of views on yt and almost 180k followers on tt. That's BLOWN UP for one month!
Appreciated!
“I won’t say more bc it’ll narrow down who I am” this man is just like me lol
I just finished my serial killer phase but i am no longer one . I am a new person, dont judge me and my past !
This is the best social dynamics channel in internet history so far. We used to go on and on in message boards trying to figure this stuff out and were lucky to get 25% of it.
I recently dropped out on my second year in hoeology 😔it’s hard forcing myself getting back out there knowing this information firsthand. Can you make a video about this? Thank you! 🤩
What specifically would you like to see? Habit changing? Getting back out there?
@@hoe_math So once we see behind the curtains of the hoe. How do we move accordingly dating wise?
you have to know her history (sometimes they lie), you have to watch her ability to CONTROL herself, and you have to kind of do the math. Was it a good history? Good. done. Bad history? Can she control herself? Good. Probably mostly safe. Bad history with no self-control? get outta there. There's never 0 risk, but you get to judge the risk you want to take. @@godofflashiness
@@hoe_math I never thought about the self control aspect 😭I hope you blow up soon I love the content!
@@godofflashiness self-control is the most important aspect of mature humans
Honestly your content is probably both really good and informative for people who are just coming out to the world and also super destructive and crushing. Truth hurts. Honestly, the information your channel has given me has put me into a serious depression for a bit, albeit for some more complicated feelings other than "world evil"
This dude is Jordan Peterson, Rollo Tomasi, and Andrew Tate meets After Skool.
I don't even know why Rollo is on the same list as Jordan.
Jordan hasn't killed anyone yet, apart from a lobsta, I think.
@alexanderruchkov7629 who is rollo
@@shamussonnot really
@@shamusson JP is a professor who wrote many books. Who fook is this guy? Just a dude who knows how draw stuff?
@@shamusson I don't like him that much anymore either, I think he's just a gatekeeper. Anyway, he has still done much more than this TH-camr
Sort of funny how the longer men spend interacting with women, the less respect they have for them
It's not just men interacting with women, it works all the way around. I saw a T-Shirt that said, "LOSING FAITH IN HUMANITY ONE PERSON AT A TIME". 😄
You’ve become a reference. I’ll look to you for clarity, and refer you to others, especially young, even the very young, for foundational awareness. Very well done with your life.
Fellow autist here, 0:48 I would add "easily" fixable. Since when something breaks someone down to where they have little to no ego left, it is the easiest to change their behavior.
The capacity to grow oneself from my personal experience mentoring others and myself is the ability to ignore the ego or be aware of the ego and even more rarely break their own ego, that is when you can enact the most change in your life. My view on life is like leveling up skills, and I'm really methodical about it . Please comment down anything that could help expand my world view and skill level in breaking down human relations it is all appreciated
jem veda has a playlist to understand humans @@bottim9728
This was talked about in The Saint and The Sinner's video "Is there a such thing as a 304 phase, or ALWAYS a harlot".
Don’t give that moron credit.
Bro I have done the research and i am compelled to share with you my findings. sadly their ability to change other things about their lives, (even the amazing ability to quit smoking anything eg crack cigs meth etc) is definitely NOT a reliable indicator! You would think there could be a correlation between the ability to change other things about theirself and the ability to change from the "ho phase", but over the years i have observed several subjects out here in the field and according to my findings, there is none at all whatsoever. Thanks for your work prof.
I think the idea was that if she managed to change something else, then you can trust her a bit more when she says her hoe phase was just a phase. But she can definitely quit smoking and simply choose to stay a hoe. But there's definitely more to it. There's even girls that never had a hoe phase and you'd think they're actually virtuous and then boom they start their hoe phase while married. Truth is the environment heavily encourages hoe behavior and it appeals to their nature a lot.
@@mrkiky just a phase sounds good if it was true that's beautiful....As for the comment, he is talking about quitting smoking meth and crack or feti not cigs. It's a powerful accomplishment to overcome drug addiction! Most people can't do it, male or female! I think he's saying that the ability to quit sex addiction is a totally different thing. Basically he's saying that in his years of research in the field, according to his findings, there is no correlation between these two abilities. Lol. So go ahead and find out if you think it makes her more trustworthy when she tell you it was just a phase! lol peace ✌️ don't forget there's plenty of fish in the sea and we only live once. Good luck
@@devilkilla77 Yes, that's what the OP is saying, but the video is saying that if she can kick a bad habit (including smoking) then she can kick hoeing as well, so when she says that she's not a hoe anymore maybe it's true. Personally I would not trust anyone like that, no more than I would trust a former druggie to not start using again when he goes through a rough time and the drug is right under his nose. My theory is that addiction is never kicked, you're just abstaining yourself, you're an inactive addict, but the pressure never goes away. I've seen countless smokers start smoking again after years of not touching a cig. Once you know how it feels, you never go back to the state of not knowing, whether it's drugs or hoeing or gambling or whatever. You're always in danger of restarting if you're hit by a powerful emotional event and if the object of your addiction is thrown right in front of you.
@@mrkiky dat part
Remember dating a buncha girls my senior year in college because thought, "that's what you're supposed to do." Quit because was totally stressed out. Made me reevaluate a girl I liked with a high body count because for her, this was normal.
This is a really good point. I notice because of this people say dating others that work out and imorove on themselves is iften a safe bet since they really put the effort into changing
It's true, it's hard to turn down easy things based on how you think it might develop in the future, and it's hard to still wonder if you might the right choice turning down the offer. I went Monk mode in 2014 and I've tuned down some things that may (?) have developed but who knows?, because I didn't want to "feel anymore of this."
It's simple: Just don't give them a chance, ever. It's disgusting and you'll grow to be disgusted of her the longer you think about it (you will).
You explained my ex girlfriend. I am relieved its over.
You’re a genius dude. I binged watched all you videos. Had so much fun
This guy is my spirit animal. God bless you, sir.
it looks like i just came across a gem of a channel
You're still early! I've been at it for JUST over a month.
I am so happy I found your page! You are wonderful to listen to.
Wow, that concept was deep! I've never heard that criteria approach in my whole life. I'll try it out as soon as possible. Thank you!
I will genuinely never understand sleep around there is no benfit to it
It's not good for you, but some people get addicted to it. A lot of us were raised to believe that it didn't matter, and now we're realizing that it does
You can catch a delicious assortment of bacteria, fungi, and diseases!
@@hoe_math i think there is something really valuable in recognizing this. More people accepting it means we can fix it faster too
This is beautiful. This is majestic. This is scrumptious.
Sending love and light bro
Love and lights doesn't put food on the table or pay for a handie.
The fact that he said she had mental limitation and wasn't evil was just pure gold.
Somebody should take this whole set up. This guys got going to make a TV show out of it. I mean really he’s got 15 storylines just in this whole set up.
Yeah, this describes my ex-wife who cheated. I never saw her do any personal growth in the 5 years we were together
The grow and hoe pie chart. It killed me 💀 this has got to be the f****** best channel on TH-cam 💯 my dad always told me if we would write a book about women we could be rich but no one knows how this dude knows how and he needs to write a book and get 💰
I came for fun, stayed for a lecture. Serious stuff.
I'm going to nominate you for a Fields medal, Sir.
One of the few relationships where I did the ending was with someone who had this negative trait and openly expressed no interest in improving it, no personal growth.
I wonder how many women, as a percentage, actually seek to improve themselves on a decently large level. I mean quitting a bad habit, losing a good amount of weight, hitting the gym, etc. I see guys do this all the time but I hardly ever see women do this. When I went to the gym, I did see women there, but were they the type of women who were always going to go there, or were they women who had problems and fixed themselves? I need more data.
He’s right, these Seattle girls are something else. Women, man.
These vids are amazing, keep it up man, cant wait to see the growth!
I mostly started to really grow myself since university entry a year ago. It happened because since before university i noticed more and more unlikable and bad things about me (I’m actually better than most people, but I noticed that I definitely needed to work much on me). These things made me feel bad and I started to chance since then positively and think about my own personality and so on. But on many things I will still have to change much, as I am aware and I know I will be able to do it mostly, maybe some points are very hard to change about oneself completely (meaning you can improve the behaviour but it’s hard to improve it perfectly/ remove the bad habit completely) anyways i need to collect more experiences, be more confident (which I luckily picked up in the last few months because I learned more about myself) and remove weaknesses as said. And I consider it a very important thing to do. That’s why it upsets me to see that most people are unable to pick themselves up to improve themselves so that they stay weak, incompetent emotionally immature, unproductive, and just stupid. On the other Side i love to witness other being able to do it or start to do it. And especially for the people close to me I hope that they realise how to improve themselves and start with it. Because most people are mediocre versions of themselves (and just bluntly said, a bit pathetic) before they start to improve themselves and it’s a sad thing to see how they don’t bloom in the fullest. Some people around you will see their own problems and have the desire to change but don’t make it there yet. Some will in the near future, other need time some of them might never make it, you should try to push those people to accelerate their process or even kickstart it. But you should not harass them. People who on the other hand are completely mediocre and completely content with it are just pigs and not worth your time.
My point is that this is why I value this kind of trait in a potential partner and agree with hoeMath that people who self improve generally less likely cheat.
try working on some humility. You talk like an arrogant narcissist
You're so true bruv. I agree with you on that but what if she becomes egoistic with her achievements?
Slightly pregnant.
Itsy-bitsy murdered.
Partialy in jail.
Add 'hoe phase' to the list
Good on you for saying no to temptation. Learning to do that is hard, and I'm proud of you. I hope you keep it up and are able to become the kind of man that can have a happy long term relationship.
You are a very insightful man, but. The logic of: "interacting with women is making me lose all my trust in women, therefore I shall interact less with them" is just such blatant and deliberate denial I don't even know man. I think it'd make for an interesting short if you talked about your logic there.
This is good feedback. I wouldn't say it's denial but it's definitely a defense mechanism. I'm not sure it's entirely healthy but it's understandable.
He isn`t avoiding contact with women because he lost his faith in them or something. He admits in other videos that he got older and less attractive and lost his status over the pandemic. He started to make videos dragging women for being hoes exactly the moment he could`t get hot women to sleep with him any more.
Funny coincidence.
I think all he said he did was stop mindlessly hooking up with them, not stopping all interaction whatsoever
Do women grow at all though? I feel like self improvement is a male trait.
Generally, no. That's sorta the point.
Damn i never thought about this
This "doesn't change" applies to almost everything. If a drug addict doesn't want to improve, then they will always be a drug addict.
I would really like to have a paper copy of that chart he uses to classify character traits, etc, so that I could frame it and put it up on my wall to study regularly, AND to be a conversation piece when anyone visits me!
Rare indeed. Her dream is to get everything while her goal is to do the least possible to obtain it.
can we get a breakdown of geographical hoe propbabiltiy?
the the best geographical places to look for non hoes
Kazakhstan probably
I don’t understand how you being with more women has made you trust them less, whether you sleep with them or not doesn’t change anything. It just makes you more aware of whatever you’re learning.
Brilliant. I’m baffled that this channel doesn’t have millions of subscribers
if a girl treats me as plan B then im out.
yeah very good basic rule.. dont make her your plan A if you're her plan B. balance is key.
Yo, I had such a similar transformation of personal progress as you. After I got fit, my god... The attention made me respect women less lol.
As I say... the line between "T" and "E" is often thin but very real.
Mate, I watched a few videos of yours and you thought me sooo much, already! You are hilarious and giving away golden knowledge! Thank you!
I've done the Math Guy's if she isn't a virgin . You won't be happy and neither will she . If you want her as a wife or something serious.
. It's science .I always remember woman in high-school telling me the can never forget there firsts . They chemical bond to those men and when those men do not bond with them it creates a unhealthy trauma that will be used against the next man .
I May remember who my first is but I absolutely want nothing to do with him 😂
You can lead a horse to water……
3:30
24 years later.... No. I have never seen her stop a bad habit. I have never seen her develop. I have never seen her "grow"...except sideways.
Oh man the person who won't change at the end. Spot on. Wish I knew sooner.
This is kinda fascinating. As for the ability to grow, I started learning languages with duolingo and how to program with apps but then I don’t have time for a guy because I’m too busy growing 🤷♀️
Learning basic skills isn't personal growth.
@@edheldude computer programming is not a basic skill, dude. Paying bills is. Keep up.
Technically you could still be a bad person and learn new things as learning new things doesn't necessarily mean that you change but I'm proud of you keep it up
It's not about time, a relationship doesn't take that much time. It's that you're gathering masculine energy. You're learning masculine things instead of feminine ones.
@@jamesjonnes hmm, since I moved back from Delaware to Virginia, I learned how to garden using companion planting, how to can, how to hunt with a bow, how to make wine, how to play guitar, how to speak German, Spanish and French, how to read Tarot, how to make things out of glass, how to pack a bug out bag, how to give a proper bj, how to avoid narcissists….
I'm sorry, but once the "action figure" is taken out of the box and played with, it'll never be NIB, again, and it has NO value to a collector. 😉
It is hard to look for people who want to grow themselves.
this is a take on the classic, "you can take the girl out of the bar, but not take the bar out of the girl."
the original word wasn't 'bar' it was 'brothel'
Yes. Went through a phase that more girls only made me more cynical so I am now more selective and go with gals mainly who are disabled as they face challenges others don’t have.
I've been thinking about this actually.
It's improbable that a woman will change personal traits for her own good voluntarily
Holy shit, the apostrophe before the crossed T blew me away.
Bro, you need to publish your charts and put them all into a comprehensive book for new daters, dads with dating sons, hell, anyone who is trying to figure out women.
Wow I absolutely love this channel. Definitely destined to get big and successful. Keep puttin hoes in their places king.
Hey are you ever gunna make a video explaining the galaxy effect? Where you mentioned in a short about how a hoes perception of a guy’s physical appearance can change?
That's a good idea to focus on it yeah probably
Just wanted to say good job on saying no.
It's pretty tough to come to that point of self actualizatiin. I totally understand everything you're saying in this video and trying to get back to the point of valuing women.
I noticed with many people that the higher their body counts the lower their trust for the other sex, often which was also correlated with misandry or misogyny.
On the flip side, we know that incels also tend to be misogynistic. So I think that just having a balanced approach to life and other people is probably the best compromise, unsurprisingly.
Can you make a video on how to raise children so that they rank high in that AQUAL chart? After all you said it is difficult to change as an adult so we need to train children in doing that.
Make them read
@@dharma6525 Reading is important. Any other ideas?
@@benrex7775 explain it to them
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