@@Josh-pb2rp As an army vet, don't do it! I tell people if you wanna go, go Air Force. Or even the Reserve program. That's something my recruiter never told me about.
This was really helpful... I'm 18 and have been in dep for about 5 months now and started to second guess my choice of joining the navy. At the beginning I was excited and everything but during this time waiting to get my diploma and finish school and all that I began thinking that I made a wrong choice. Thank you again this video has been very helpful.
+Yoon Ho Kim this is kinda helpful but as I look at my self I just don't have the motivation I had when I joined. I feel I've kinda went into a depression. I've lost motivation to stay fit and I'm just not feeling what I felt when I signed up.
Zach, i do believe we all have a timing of when it feels right to join. Maybe right now is not for you. What I do recommend you to do is to talk to your parents, friends, and even your recruiter. Get an educated decision.
I was put in a tough situation. I was fully committed and ready to go to basic training, however my life took an unexpected turn when I got hit with a lawsuit just days before I was set to leave. Obviously, I lost the contract and my departure date was postponed until further notice. The lawsuit is set to take a while, a year or more they said. Now it's months later and I've been having doubts. I didn't want to put my life on hold for a couple years, only to get stuck joining the Air Force. I didn't think there was a way out until right now, so I can't thank you enough for that.
Donavich Salami Yeah, I just started ignoring them and they eventually kicked me out of the DEP program. You can drop out anytime before the departure date and they won’t do anything to you.
Rza Technically I was “discharged” from the DEP program, but not from the military all together. You aren’t officially a member in the armed forces until you step foot on the plane and make your way to boot camp. Being “discharged” from the DEP program means nothing. It doesn’t go on your permanent record or anything like that, and you can very easily talk a recruiter about enlisting if you ever feel up to it again.
I believe the reality is that, once you've "DEPed In" if they truly wanted to drag you away kicking and screaming, they could. However, the current policy of all four branches is that they will not do this. And recruiters are not allowed to threaten it. They are, however, obligated to attempt to change the enlistees mind, and get them back "with the program." If that fail, they have to promptly begin the paperwork for separation. That's how it's supposed to work. Desperate recruiters sometimes do resort to desperate measure and tell people things like, "You'll go Leavenworth." "You'll never be able to get a student loan." They do this because with each "DEP loss" the recruiter and the station commander get banged up over it. The way it's looked at from the Powers That Be is: "You, as a Recruiter, didn't do enough to keep this enlistee motivated."
“Under no circumstances will [a recruiter] threaten, coerce, manipulate, or intimidate D. E. P. members, nor may they obstruct separation requests. (USAREC Reg 601-56§3-1.c) … At no time will any [recruiter] tell a D. E. P. enlistee he or she must ‘go in the Army or he or she will go to jail,’ or that ‘failure to enlist will result in a black mark on his or her credit record,’ or any other statement indicating adverse action will occur if the applicant fails to enlist.” (Excerpted from USAREC Reg 601-95 §3-1.b.; see also USAREC Reg 601-45 §2-3.h.) If they question this just say: By what authority are you violating military regulations?
Yoon...great video. I found out, years later, that even if you did sign up under DEP, you can get out of it. Many years ago in the 70s I signed up with the army under the DEP. No one told me if I got cold feet I could back out. I wish I did. Don't get me wrong. I love and respect my country and I was the model soldier. But the number of lies my recruiter told me was shameful. I'd give anything to have those 3 years of my life back. That's why I tell people if they have kids thinking of joining, have them talk with me.
We were told three days into Boot Camp, after we were officially read the UCMJ, that we could have gone AWOL up until that moment of reading, which was our official UCMJ briefing.
I certainly didn't know who I was when I joined,big mistake!!why?not knowing who you are is a motivation killer,because it seems to play on your mind,inhibitting abilities, and what is needed,is undivided attention!!good luck all joining:)
I ship in 2 months, I recently required a painful running injury I'm realizing its not the smartest decision ATM, I want to join the military and I will but I have a scholarship I haven't used from highschool and I'm thinking about taking time to heal/learn/train and then rejoin the military when I'm ready. Could I drop the DEP program because I've been in it for 4 months?
I got a 90 on my ASVAB and I signed up for 6 years as a Navy nuclear Machinist's Mate with: 2 years of schooling (with 2 1-month breaks in there) and 4 years as an enlisted sailor (2 and a half days of break accumulating monthly and can be used like vacation days). I'm currently in the DEP. For most people, I don't think you can get out of DEP, but it can actually be a good thing because you can use that extra time to do what you need to do. For anyone joining the military: study (read - I know it's difficult) and physically prepare for boot camp (for example, sit ups, push ups, and running). It will be worth everything in the long run (haha get it). Other than that, I'm so excited to join the Navy and wanted to share this. :)
After you get out of the Navy apply to get a job with Customs and Border Protection, DEA, FBI, or any other federal agency. You will be making a lot of money but make sure you get a honorable discharge. Also, try to apply for a job in Google, Facebook, Boeing, Lockhead Martin, or Twitter. You will get good job opportunties. Good luck
I’m joining the marines, but I’ve only swore in once and I wasn’t paying attention to what I was signing I signed a MT contract and I wanted Infantry. I’m pretty sure you have to swear in twice before they have you stuck!
Yeah same , I went nothing bad can happen to you. My marine recuriter was saying the other branches weren't gonna take u but thats bs . Its a scare tactic they use to keep you in.
Hey, idk if you’ll end up reading this but I need some advice dude. I’m planning to change branch from marines to navy because I realize I wanna pursue my medical career and marines doesn have any medical related jobs. Any advice what should I tell my recruiter? We kinda build trust and bonds over time since I’ve been a polee for almost 6 months
2 things. First, talk to your Marines recruiter and tell them straight up that you want something medical. Maybe there is something within the Marines branch that may help you. If that doesn't work, talk to a Navy recruiter to help guide you.
I swore in two days ago for the airforce and now I am in DEP. But after going through MEPS it made me realize I don't want to do this anymore. Can there be any legal actions that can be taken against me if I try to drop from DEP. Also idk if I should just text my recruiter that I don't wanna go any further with the process or should send a letter to my recruiting Commander? Note: I haven't picked any jobs yet and do not have a shipping date.
Did you ever figure it out, I also in dep and I'm going to be ending, meaning dropping out, but I want to re-enlist again in a year? How was your process
My ship date just changed.. they called me today to leave this week and I am not all ready I still have to get something in order. originally ship date was January 2018. Can I do anything to push the ship date back?
I just requested to get dropped from the DEP in the Navy because I found a better deal in another branch. The recruiters aren't dropping me, they're dragging their feet. What do I do? I've gone back to them a couple of times already for a month already and they just give me excuses.
I did, they can't do anything. I don't blame the Navy being slow, because they have no incentive to help me out. I ended up calling the higher ups in the recruiting command and I think it sped things up.
Jakub Rosman I got out of the Navy Dep. Matter in fact I switched to the Marine Corps. Simply, the navy was not happy and it took about a month in a half to shift my papers over to the marine corps dep. In my case my recruiter in the marine corps made me convince him that i won't drop out of the marine corps dep and actually commit. Now finishing up my first year in the marine corps.
I have a question, I got out of DEP, but I was wondering if I’m able to try to join again in the future? Basically I wanted to join and went to meps and in DEP program but I changed my mind and now I regret it. Can I go back to a different recruiter and rejoin?
Absolutely. Let me tell you this- they dont care. Itll simply be the loss of one recruiter and the gain of another one. There is absolutely no penalty involved in leaving DEP, and even the same recruiter would most likely not mind taking you back. Just think about you, its your life. If you wanna go ahead and do it, go for it.
Ninjas_In_Pajamas are you serious? This give me some hope! It’s just I had a really bad recruiter who didn’t seem to care or help me get the job I want. He said the only job available is security force and mechanics. I tried for Air Force and I admire it a lot! I wanted an admin or personnel job. He said none is available. And I was going to be a police. Which i did not want. So after I finish meps, I was like oh no I can’t go in with security force job. But thank you for giving me some hope. Also I’m scared my recruiter might put me on the blacklist?
@@Kevinyoul0o5serr The hardest thing for you will probably be getting the rate that you want. Trust me, I couldnt leave on my designated bc date bc of an injury and I lost my hospital corpsman rate (which is really hard to come by). Currently I've been in DEP for 1 and a half years just waiting for that rate, and pretty soon if I cant get it I wont join. DO NOT feel pressured into taking a job you don't want, and if they tell you "you can go in as X and then change" NO, 8/10 it wont happen. So just be careful 😌
I signed with the Marines DEP did it cuz my dad was a Marine. Realize the Navy has better opportunities for me. Talked to my recruiter said I now have to wait til September to be discharged. Not sure if the Navy recruiter can speed the process up or not.
JustYoon according to the Navy recruiter the Marine recruiter was bluffing by saying I have to wait til September the could discharge me tomorrow he said. Basically told me to keep calling them up every so often asking if they discharged me yet.
@@swisha6717 Yup! Took the whole summer of 2019 but I was finally discharged in early September of that year. As soon as I was I went to the Navy recruiter and they filled everything out went to MEPs again but I only had to do a brief update(new tattoos etc) it wasn't a full examination. They still had my info from when I went to MEPs with the Marines. Picked my Navy rate and I went off to bootcamp November 20th 2019. I'm currently going on my 3rd year in the Navy and I plan on reenlisting once 2023 comes.
I just signed a couple days ago, I wasnt aware I was going to be choosing a job. I thought I was going for a physical. When i ecplained that to the person giving me my rate he told me if I did not how upset and pissed everyone in the room at the time would be with me. I have a chance to go to college and after signing I feel like that is the best bet. I still want to wait it out to see if I have a change of heart but Im a very stubborn person when i feel a certain way I usually stick to that way. If I told my mentor and recruiter I would not be going through with it,i know they will antagonize me that its not the right decision and such. If I write them a letter can I then just completely ignore them. Im not idiot I know they need to meet a quota and i would be affecting that. Sorry long message, just nervous fuckin wreck right now.
How did it go? I'm in the midst of my recruiters and other Navy personnel that I don't even know costantly feeding me questionable information after I informed them that I am choosing to get out of the DEP
Thanks this video helps a lot🥺 I went to meps two weeks ago and signed up, for the past two weeks I've been scared because I feel like I made a big mistake.😵 I want to do something with my life but I know that I have to look at all my options and I feel like I just ran with the first, g*d help me 😶🤞and I've been thinking about backing out.😫
Damn Same I went to meps on oct 9 and I was so passionate about joining the marines. Its nov 2 and Im really thinking about it like damn , Maybe I should just do trade school or something, because 4 years doesn't sound like alot , but at the same time it does .
I’ve been in Navy DEP for about 2 weeks now, and my job requires a top secret security clearance, which I lied about a few things on the form they use to grant you one.. so if I join I’m totally screwed! I leave for Basic in less than a month and am planning on dropping out of Navy Dep so I can join the Army instead, and actually do a job that seems up my ally. I’ve been crying all morning about it though, I feel like I’ve let everyone down!
Does anyone know if there are negative implications? 1) If you withdraw from DEP, will it affect future employments such as local, state and federal? 2) Will a certain DEP discharge (if I’m not mistaken it is “uncharacterized”) show on a background check? 3) Will I be handed a DD214 form? If any one here has gotten a government job with a DEP discharge let me know please!
No man you're completely safe if you back out during DEP. Depending on your recruiter, some will spout some complete bullshit how it'll affect your future life permantly, but that's just a way to scare you into staying. So if you're having second thoughts, don't be afraid to tell your recruiter that you're no more. They can't legally do anything.
okay so just to make this clear? ive been to MEPS and taken my Physical and signed and sworn in. but I've been in DEP for a month and am set to leave for bootcamp on july 6th so 17 days from now. so all i have to do is not show up on the ship date and Im good? i have no interest in joining at all now. i wont get into trouble? im starting to freak out. do I have to sign separation paperwork?
The right thing to do is to tell your recruiter you don't want to do it anymore. Then take it from there. Your recruiter obviously will try to convince you otherwise. At the end of the day, if you don't want to join you dont have to. There are NO punishment for you. You still are a civilian. Talk it over with your family and make your decision.
Hypothetically speaking, if your recruiter gives you a hard time and says your going 100% and you don't want to. You do not have to show up for your ship out date.
Basically you just dont report anything on every Monday and dont go to DEP meeting, dont show up in MEPS on your ship date? Do you have to come back to Navy office to sign any release paper?
Ok but what if you get out of the DEP and didn’t go to boot camp after swearing in and signing etc... ultimately you’ll be discharged right? If so, what kind of discharge will this be? Also, would you be able to get into the military again later down in life after doing this ?
JustYoon does this apply to National Guard as well? The reason I asked is because NG is state jurisdiction. Will I face penalties at state level? If so, what are those penalties?
I enlisted for the Marine Corps DEP, but i am starting to realize that I am not ready for this commitment yet. Is it possible to discharge and renlist in military.
So I took the oath and signed everything and shipping out next month on the 22nd of June. I am attending college and about to finish my semester the end of this month and realized I wanted to focus on college more now and especially with good things happening right now. (Going into active for the military) now, I want to focus more on my college but I’m afraid my recruiter is going to tell me about the whole awol thing. I do meet with him on Wednesday and definitely want to talk about it with him but is there any chance I can leave the dep or am I stuck with it?
@@Hxik14 Honestly nothing. I called/texted my recruiter and talked to him about me leaving. He asked me to come in and sign some papers but I knew he was going to try and persuade me to stay so I didn’t go and plus it was a long drive back but that’s partly my fault. I just blocked him. I let him know in May 15 and after two weeks he stopped texting me. We’ll see after June 22nd if anything happens really.
@@PizzaRoll everything online I can find says me and you should be good . I don’t want to join the military at all , my ship date is July 18th and I’ve been to meps and sworn in . Real nervous
@@Hxik14 Don’t worry! I was really worrying about it to but we should be fine! I also heard we do a final swear in where the day we ship off is our final and last day and after that we can do anything about it so we’re fine!
Talon Merrill you can takes about 3-6 months. The only thing is recruiters talk to other recruiters, so if you jump ship to another branch and they know you have gotten outta the DEP before they might not want to work with you.
@@swisha6717 it’s on a case by case basis, I’ve seen “other than honorable” discharges go through it takes a minute but it can go through also depends on what you got discharged for ie (we’re you discharged on the count of anxiety or depression, did you want to kill yourself during training etc. just examples) your RE Code plays a big factor in this when you get out. But to answer your question “Yes” if you get discharged you can re enter again but it’s under completely different circumstances. 😂 sorry for the long explanation.
The recruiter said I need to return the things that they gave me at MEPS (shirt, start guide, backpack etc.) Am I required to or is it their way of getting me to go to the office?
@@jennifero1314 So you're technically supposed to send a letter and you can find the format on google but I sent the letter through email, and yea that's it, I was never contacted again
They’re cheap!! Lmao 🤣🤢 I didn’t do a letter since I went through the hassle of just trying to civilly talk to them and they’re still trying to keep me in side line ways like they’re sending me weird shit in the mail but I know I don’t have to give it back it’s mine
Thats a lie. You dont even have a military record. Heres the thing, you ARE NOT in the military until that last swear in on bootcamp date. There is no penalty for leaving DEP and it is very easy to leave.
@@meylinhernandez461 I have a question, I recently decided to drop out of DEP for personal reasons, I sent the letter and my recruiters won't leave me alone so I stopped answering to them, but they contacted my mom saying I need to return my "navy gear" is this true or are they trying to get me to go into the office to talk?
@@marissaortiz7903 hmm that's a good question. If by gear they mean the navy cap, tshirt, and little backpack they give (and if you still have them lol), imo those seem like very trivial things to NEED back. It definetly sounds like they want you to come in to talk. I would just send your mom by herself to return them- if that's all they want, there should be no problem w that.
can you have a say in your ship date? Like I go to college, I don't care when I ship to basic, but, I don't want to ship during a college semester and waste money, but, at the same time, I don't want to take time off of school and not ship... and just waste my time doing nothing..
Going inactive reserve is basically civilian tho so why call it 8? Unless u go active reserves which still isn't that bad. That what I'm telling myself to make me feel better, please give me a reality check if one in due
I hope you’re still responding man. I just signed contracts last week and swore in. But now i’m confident i don’t want to go. And i spoke with my recruiter and he’s making it harder for me. I spoke to the main guy at the marine corp office where i go and he gave me a rough time and it felt like i had 0 options, like i was forced to stay here. He wanted me to make me keep going to the PT. What should i do? What are my rights ? I don’t want them to bother me no more
Glaz im having the same situation too which is crazy! I basically talked to the marine recruiter because my friend wanted to see how it would be for me because he already is in the dep program. And without fully thinking about it i ended up following whag they were saying and went through meps and had a 4 by 4 contract not know what my job is or anything. I went through that process almost a month ago and now i am having second thoughts and want out of the marines by 110%. It was hard at first telling my recruiter and then teling the main head recruiter too. I have a meeting with a supervisor who is a higher rank then everyone in the building tomorrow maybe and explain them briefly i want out. No matter how hard it might be to get crapped on by them stick to your word and gut and all you have to say is "you want out and the marines is not for me" and they are just gonna have to accept that.
@@Noahilbmann Cause look man , realistically there’s so much i wish i could explain to you but i don’t prefer messaging on youtube but yeah they’ll do whatever it takes to keep you in. Thankfully my recruiter didn’t give me as much of a hard time that the head recruiter did but it was still rough. But yeah, then making you come in, it’s just not a good idea. I did exactly did and it was the worst time of my life. If you can, try to bring a parent with you and if they don’t let you then tell them that you will not be coming in
@@alexvasquez4935 I didn’t have to sign anything. They pretty much did all the paperwork. Not sure how it goes. You don’t need to show up or say anything. Some might tell you that you have to but you don’t , it’s all volunteer
@@glazzzed2482 thanks man. I already informed my recruiter. I’m meeting up with him today but he says i have to sign separation paperwork. If anything I’ll just apologize to him in person and walk out the door.
Hey JustYoon Im shipping out in the army soon as a future soldier and Im really stressed out and I feel like I don't want to go in anymore and go for college. I've talked to my family and there for it but I haven't talked to my recruiter and I feel really bad they did all that work. I'm not really sure what to say. Any suggestions on what I can say so it doesn't feel as bad?
I recently enlisted in the Army National Guard. Now I got an opportunity with a local law enforcement. And I want to go for that now. Can i still back out before my ship date??
How long does it take to switched over. I already took my asvab with the army and want to switch to navy. Its taking forever for my stuff to transfer and I was hoping to go to MEPs for my physical before Christmas
You have to continuously follow up with them. Remember they work for you. You need to make them work, it's their job to make sure you have a good transition from civilian to military.
I'm in DEP right now and leaving this july for active duty but im having second thoughts about it and wanted to go as reserves instead, told my recruiter about it and he told me that it is not possible to change my status back to reserve because they already got me plane tickets and other stuff. i was just wondering if it's true or not. thank you.
HAHA. While it might be true they have all this planned for you. At the end of the day, if you don't want to be active duty you don't have to be active duty.
They got you the plane ticket to boot camp, active duty or reserves still have to go to boot camp. What it comes down to is your recruiter doing extra paper work which it doesn't seem like they want to do for you.
So I got a contract and now in DEP for navy but I had a change in heart and don't want to go, my ship date is in late June. I talked to my recruiter earlier today and said I didn't want to do DEP anymore he got upset and said I signed stuff and to meet him at his office on Monday, if are still responding sir how should I go about the meeting? I would greatly appreciate the advice!
@@captaineric5276 yeah I got out, my recruiters were definitely not happy about it, I brought someone I trusted for moral support at the meeting but it went in my favor
@@candidatepiety2186 so were they like “you can’t back out you already signed papers” cause that’s what they are telling me. And they’re telling me I have to sign papers to get out
@@KidGhost754 you don't have to sign any paper to get out of DEP, when I went to the office I brought my mom and limited the meeting to 10 minutes, I brought a letter I wrote about the reasons why I left. The recruiters were telling me the same thing, I had to sign some papers to get out of DEP which is just untrue, Ive done research and spoke to a knowledgeable person who knows what to do to get out online. During the meeting the recruiters were telling me I need to sign papers, I refused saying I don't need to sign anything, handed them my letter on why I was leaving, I did sign the letter I wrote though, but only that, nothing more, than I left the office with my mom. No matter what they tell you you don't have to sign anything they put in front of you, doesn't matter what they say either, if you don't want in anymore they can't force you UNLESS you show up to MEPs on ship date and sign papers. If they tell you to do that don't do it, I've heard stories where the recruiter did that and the person got sent to basic training. girightshotline.org/en/military-knowledge-base/delayed-entry-program-discharge-dep-discharge/ I called the number listed on this website and spoke to them about my situation and they gave me advice, if it helps you maybe you could do the same? I'd recommend it if you are trying to leave DEP I hope this helps! I know it's stressful but its up to you on how you live your life! I wish you the best of luck!
It's against the Uniform Code of Military Justice if the recruiters try to threaten you to stay in. If you want out, just get out. It's only gonna hurt the recruiter but not you. You won't face penalty for backing out of your contract and you won't face dishonorable discharge. You'll still have a chance to reenlist later on in life. It's never the end of the road. Military service today is all volunteer forces so they don't need you.
I joined the navy January 28th and a few days later I decided I didn’t wanna join anymore I wanted to join the army instead. I meet with my chain of command February 3rd and he said I’d be released nearly a month later I’m still sitting here waiting what should I do to speed this up I ship March 24th
Tell them you won't ship march 24th, and they'll have a bigger headache to deal with. Go talk to your army recruiters and they'll provide you with some ammo too
I barley got into the dep program 2 months ago and honestly want to leave it, cause I have a good job opportunity with good benefits, I told my recruiter and he still tries to talk to me to get me to stay, what do I do? My ship date isn’t till next year so do I just ignore them or will they come to my house?
I don’t wanna drop out of DEP but I do wanna postpone my ship date, I recently been having some physical issues with my feet and plus i think I’m still dirty for a drug test... what should I do, I ship out in 4 days
That's a really bad situation tbh, and it reminds me of mine. I fractured my foot and since I couldnt leave on date for bc, I lost my 'guaranteed' hm rate. It fucking sucks and I'm still trying to get that rate back
I became apart of the Navy rep program for about 4 months and i leave this up coming january and i am so scared of the decision i had made, i didnt give myself any time to think it through and i dont want to leave next month. I dont know if this is all accurate im really scared to talk to my recruiter, but i been reading over my contract and it doesnt say im obligated to go to basic training or anything like that. I just want advice from anyone who has successfully dropped out of the DEP program if possible😅
Kalissa Schneider you can get out anytime you want. I’m currently in the DEP for the Marines. Until you step foot on the bus and get to your basic training location, you don’t have to go. Yes it’s kinda scary to talk to your recruiter telling them that you no longer want to do it. They may get upset or not. They can’t do anything about it. Shoot. You can get to the airport and decide there you don’t want to do it and buy a ticket home. The point is you can back out anytime. You may have repercussions about re joining again but there is no penalty for backing out.
So my ship date coming up in couple months And I want to quit but for now I’m stuck doing pt and stuff but I don’t wanna do that or join anymore should I tell them or what should I do and sorry bad at English
@@brauliocamacho1174 I'm in the same boat to. They cant legally come and drag you out of your home. Like he said in the video the military is completely voluntary and the recruiters will say otherwise cuz that's what they do
As long as you don't leave for boot camp you're fine. They might need to process the paper work. I don't know the exact process. Just don't leave for boot camp and you're good.
I signed my contract for the Army and I’m supposed to ship out in less than two weeks on May 15th. I changed my mind like two days after signing and now I’m just gonna ghost my recruiters. I sent them a letter requesting a discharge and I hope they get the message
I was handed a job and I wasn't given a job selection. I already signed my contract. Can I change it? I know if I call my recruiter he going to try and make it sound like I can't change it.
+The one If i was in your situation and with what I know now here is what I would do. Call my recruiter and tell him you want to change your job or else you are not joining. If he is not taking care of you try a different recruiting station.
I've sworn in with the army and signed my contract/ship date is dec 27th... does anything in video/comments vary from navy to army?.... I let me recruiter know about 2 weeks ago (month and a half before ship date) and now he's telling me I need to sign separation paperwork or I'll be considered AWOL. Scared because of how much sense his argument makes, but also relaxed because of your video and other forums...... just don't know what to do anymore honesty. Please help. Thanks for the videos
Hey since it's been two years since you commented this, how did it all go for you? Is there a way out cause I recently enlisted in the army and now I want out and my ship date is May 26th
Do you have to write an email to them to say you wanna get out of DEP? Only swearing 2nd time and sign last page of contract before departing in MEPS 2nd time will make it valid and you may go to jail if you dont follow it right?
If you do not want to you can walk away with no harm. Recruiters might intimidate you to stay, because they put in a lot of work to get you through this process. However, at the end of the day. It is a volunteer service. If you choose to opt out, you can opt out.
Vu Thuy Duong you don't have to do that, you can simply write a letter or do nothing, that's just a way to get you to go into their office and try to convince you to stay,
in 2010 when I was 18 my USMC recruiter was getting impatient with my lack of run time improvements and essentially told me to quit. Now at 26 I feel I am actually healthy enough to pass the IST. Will being kicked out of a DEP prevent me from entering the USMC? Will it effect my ability to join other branches?
Hey brother I did my first swear into the DEP program and I am having ALOT of family issues and financial/housing issues that have affected my training. I signed some documents a few months back but I digress since I haven't done the official swear in can I leave the DEP? Whenever you could get back to me would be greatly appreciated.
At the end of the day, if you want to get out you can get out. Let your recruiter know whats going on. Know, it is their job to prevent you from getting out of DEP. You have the final say in everything. Until you step into Recruiter Training Center it is your choice.
i’m a senior in high-school trying to get out of marine delayed entry because of I would rather go in to a different branch. How ever after speaking to my recruiters about withdrawing from delayed entry they kept telling me I have to speak to a board and that I might not get my withdrawal accepted by them. Which I know is bogus but I really don’t want to wait all the way until my bootcamp date to get out. what should I do ?
Yes, that is a trick they're playing to keep you in. At the end of the day you are NOT obligated until you step on the bus to leave for Boot Camp. You could take few routes. 1) Face it heads on, tell them you know they're BSing. Tell them to show you in BLACK AND WHITE paper where YOU MUST go. It doesn't exist. 2) Ask your parents for some back up. They can lie to you, but sometimes they can't lie to them. 3) Ask another branch recruiter. Whatever branch you want to join, ask them for some help.
i decided to dep out of the navy and join the army because the navy recruiters gave me false promises saying i could change my job before i shipped out. Its been about a month now. but the navy has not taken me out of their system. so i cant join the army or start my process until i’m out of there. how should i proceed?
Roy De la cruz Bro I’m just about to call my recruiter tomorrow to switch to the Army too. I’d say keep bugging them. Call your Navy recruiter. Call their Chief. Show up to the office everyday and keep bugging them. Be pushy but don’t be rude.
I'm trying to do the same. I'm already in navy dep and my ship date is in 5 weeks, but I want to join the army instead. Give me some info on what you've experienced.
Hey I just signed my 1st contact in the recruiter office and sworn into the navy there but after thinking I wanted to do college and gotten a bigger opportunity with the rotc program today. I had second thoughts on going to the navy and instead I wanted to go in college instead. Should I talk to my recruiter or should I write a letter? I don’t know what to do?
can i get out of dep if i already swore in and signed a contract at meps? i know when i ship i’ll have to swear in again and sign another portion of the contract. but i’m under the impression that i can still opt out before i leave for bootcamp, is that true?
Bigg boff I didn’t qualify for a lot of jobs in the marines man their all limited , I wanted something that would of benefit me in the civilian side if god forbid something happend. And I also wanted to leave asap so the only jobs they offered me was motor t and infantry . I put the 4 line scores I was given into go army and already qualified for 20 jobs lol, mind you I’m still missing more line scores so I’d qualify for more
Hi. Im going to choose my job in MEPS next two weeks. My ship out date is about june 2019. Now i change my mind, can i leave the army? Is it possible? Thank you so much!
The mixed feeling you have right now is normal. Your recruiter will try to convince you to still go through with it. It is normal for them to do that, they might try to pull the most crazy tricks, but at the end of the day. You're not a solider, you are still a civilian. You have a choice.
+Yoon Ho Kim 김윤호 thank you for the reply! I just recently enlisted into the navy! And they offered me to do OS because the job I wanted wasn't available! But they said I still have a chance to change my job before boot camp!
Do you know if you need to send a letter to anyone? I already told my recruiter and the navy station commander that I no longer wish to join the military back in April 2nd. Not sure if i was suppose to sign paper work or write a letter. Someone pleasr help!
@@dumbotoonz9147Nope, no letters whatsoever. He told me that he literally texted his recruiter to be dropped from the DEP. Then his recruiter called him to confirm, my cousin said yes. And that was it. No papers signed or any of that crap.
@@theundisputed3671 Alright thank you so much, I told my recruiter and the navy station commander that I no longer wanted to serve, obviously they were mad and frustrated as they dont respond to any of my messages a week after i went to their office to confirm leaving
@@dumbotoonz9147Don’t worry about it brother, obviously they are gonna be a bit mad but at the end of the day it’s your choice. My cousins recruiter hasn’t texted or called my cousin after he told him so yeah. Once you let them know that’s it, move on. Best of luck with your future endeavors my friend 👍
Pretty late into the game, will be extrenely hard. The ship out date is processed for your Army service not Marine. Best thing to do is go to a Marine recruiter to see your options.
Who put you on this planet? agent my recruiter was an asshole so I just block their numbers and sent a letter to the recruiting station haven’t heard from them since May and my ship date in December.
Who put you on this planet? agent some one who’s active duty army told that once you sign your in and if you don’t show I’m gonna get arrested. He not a recruiter
AwesomeBolf You’re still in DEP after 6 months? Damn son, get in contact with the recruiting headquarters (the place all the substations report to) and talk to the officer in charge, it’s that easy. Just google -your city’s name- your branch of service- recruiting headquarters. Go to the website-contact us-get the number and call. Good luck
My ship date is in two weeks and I don’t wanna be in the Navy anymore my recruiter isn’t I did the first swear and sign the DEP contract can I still get out?
JustYoon i met with them and he told me just to return everything the marines gave me and told me good luck with my life now what happens to all the papperwork
Hey great video Bro! So I told my recruiter that I want to drop and she’s giving me crap, I’ve just found better opportunities and now her boss wants to talk with me and says that it’s required that I call and speak with him.. should I speak to her boss?
andy juarez bro i ship feb 3rd lol i just texted my recruiter that i wasn’t going , that i changed my mind and he wants me to go to the office to “ sign discharge paperwork “
baseball 1 i dont think yo u gotta sign to discharge from what i heard i think he just wants to talk to you and to persuade you to stay but if you dont want to you dont have to, youre not obligated until you do your official swear in
andy juarez bro honestly if you’re having second thoughts don’t go , i just didn’t want to because , there was only one job available for me and i didn’t want it , but the counselor, kept insisting i sign for the job , even though i kept saying no , but after like 10 minutes of back and forth and talking i just gave in. So i know i’m not gonna be happy with my mos so i just decided not to go through with it.
Can someone help me please so I went to talk to my recruiter today about quitting but I wasn't able to because his argument counter mine and he also quoted me and has proof of it so I don't know what to do but for now he just said bring back a list of pros and cons tomorrow and we talk about
They will show and do anything to make you stay in. At the end of the day, you're not a military member yet. If you don't want to go, you don't have to go.
My recruiter tried to quote me all the time because I get too busy with my job for PT and they make a big ass deal about it and like try to scare me in a way tgat there gonna let me go
If you are considering getting out of the military DEP program don't do it. The military is the best decision you can make in life. Anyone who tells you to get out of the military doesn't have your best interest in mind.
+Davied Stevens Just cause you are a nuke doesnt mean he cant stay in for 8 years. He meant that he will be active for 5 and 3 reserve. He will be attached to the military until he is 29(because of the 3 years reserve). My contract is the same, 4 active and 4 reserve.
My contract is a 4 years plus another 12 month obligation on top of that/3 years reserve . I just swore in February 8th,2018 and I leave June 6th for Bootcamp.
So its been a week after my ship date and nothing has happened. All I had to do to get out was to tell my recruiter that I no longer wanted to join. I didnt have to sign papers or write a letter to anyone. Anyone with questions can comment under this!
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Of course you can get out of DEP. It's a free country. If the recruiter tries to tell you different tell them to shove it.
It's difficult man, these recruiters try to be your best friend and you'll feel like a dick rejecting em
@@eliargumedo4728 I was thinking the same thing I’m thinking of switching to the army. Since they want me to go in as undesignated
@@Josh-pb2rp hey I just did that rn how did it work out for you?
@@Josh-pb2rp As an army vet, don't do it! I tell people if you wanna go, go Air Force. Or even the Reserve program. That's something my recruiter never told me about.
Free country....lol
This was really helpful... I'm 18 and have been in dep for about 5 months now and started to second guess my choice of joining the navy. At the beginning I was excited and everything but during this time waiting to get my diploma and finish school and all that I began thinking that I made a wrong choice. Thank you again this video has been very helpful.
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+Yoon Ho Kim this is kinda helpful but as I look at my self I just don't have the motivation I had when I joined. I feel I've kinda went into a depression. I've lost motivation to stay fit and I'm just not feeling what I felt when I signed up.
Zach, i do believe we all have a timing of when it feels right to join. Maybe right now is not for you. What I do recommend you to do is to talk to your parents, friends, and even your recruiter. Get an educated decision.
+Yoon Ho Kim thank you for your help I really appreciate it
Did you get out ?(Im in a similar situation)
I was put in a tough situation. I was fully committed and ready to go to basic training, however my life took an unexpected turn when I got hit with a lawsuit just days before I was set to leave. Obviously, I lost the contract and my departure date was postponed until further notice. The lawsuit is set to take a while, a year or more they said. Now it's months later and I've been having doubts. I didn't want to put my life on hold for a couple years, only to get stuck joining the Air Force. I didn't think there was a way out until right now, so I can't thank you enough for that.
You got it!
Did you end up getting out ? Im in an odd situation right now
Donavich Salami Yeah, I just started ignoring them and they eventually kicked me out of the DEP program. You can drop out anytime before the departure date and they won’t do anything to you.
Bio-Hazard hey, so didn’t you get any discharge type?
Rza Technically I was “discharged” from the DEP program, but not from the military all together. You aren’t officially a member in the armed forces until you step foot on the plane and make your way to boot camp. Being “discharged” from the DEP program means nothing. It doesn’t go on your permanent record or anything like that, and you can very easily talk a recruiter about enlisting if you ever feel up to it again.
I believe the reality is that, once you've "DEPed In" if they truly wanted to drag you away kicking and screaming, they could. However, the current policy of all four branches is that they will not do this. And recruiters are not allowed to threaten it. They are, however, obligated to attempt to change the enlistees mind, and get them back "with the program." If that fail, they have to promptly begin the paperwork for separation. That's how it's supposed to work. Desperate recruiters sometimes do resort to desperate measure and tell people things like, "You'll go Leavenworth." "You'll never be able to get a student loan." They do this because with each "DEP loss" the recruiter and the station commander get banged up over it. The way it's looked at from the Powers That Be is: "You, as a Recruiter, didn't do enough to keep this enlistee motivated."
“Under no circumstances will [a recruiter] threaten, coerce, manipulate, or intimidate D. E. P. members, nor may they obstruct separation requests. (USAREC Reg 601-56§3-1.c) … At no time will any [recruiter] tell a D. E. P. enlistee he or she must ‘go in the Army or he or she will go to jail,’ or that ‘failure to enlist will result in a black mark on his or her credit record,’ or any other statement indicating adverse action will occur if the applicant fails to enlist.” (Excerpted from USAREC Reg 601-95 §3-1.b.; see also USAREC Reg 601-45 §2-3.h.)
If they question this just say: By what authority are you violating military regulations?
Yoon...great video. I found out, years later, that even if you did sign up under DEP, you can get out of it. Many years ago in the 70s I signed up with the army under the DEP. No one told me if I got cold feet I could back out. I wish I did. Don't get me wrong. I love and respect my country and I was the model soldier. But the number of lies my recruiter told me was shameful. I'd give anything to have those 3 years of my life back. That's why I tell people if they have kids thinking of joining, have them talk with me.
I just got out of my navy DEP last Monday. I was going to join as a CS, but turned down that job real quick! Your videos are extremely helpful!
No PACT no CS no BM imo
How long was ur dep departure
So ur not in at all
Did you sign any paperwork to leave the dep? My recruiter says i have to fill out separation paperwork wondering if that’s true
How long did it take?
We were told three days into Boot Camp, after we were officially read the UCMJ, that we could have gone AWOL up until that moment of reading, which was our official UCMJ briefing.
I certainly didn't know who I was when I joined,big mistake!!why?not knowing who you are is a motivation killer,because it seems to play on your mind,inhibitting abilities, and what is needed,is undivided attention!!good luck all joining:)
Yeah you gotta know yourself or evil people will enslave and control you
Thank you so much my wife decided she want to separate because I enlisted now i can fix my marriage and have my kids back!
You don’t need to fix your marriage
I ship in 2 months, I recently required a painful running injury I'm realizing its not the smartest decision ATM, I want to join the military and I will but I have a scholarship I haven't used from highschool and I'm thinking about taking time to heal/learn/train and then rejoin the military when I'm ready. Could I drop the DEP program because I've been in it for 4 months?
yes
Thank you so much a great help and calming
you got it J
I got a 90 on my ASVAB and I signed up for 6 years as a Navy nuclear Machinist's Mate with: 2 years of schooling (with 2 1-month breaks in there) and 4 years as an enlisted sailor (2 and a half days of break accumulating monthly and can be used like vacation days).
I'm currently in the DEP. For most people, I don't think you can get out of DEP, but it can actually be a good thing because you can use that extra time to do what you need to do. For anyone joining the military: study (read - I know it's difficult) and physically prepare for boot camp (for example, sit ups, push ups, and running). It will be worth everything in the long run (haha get it).
Other than that, I'm so excited to join the Navy and wanted to share this. :)
After you get out of the Navy apply to get a job with Customs and Border Protection, DEA, FBI, or any other federal agency. You will be making a lot of money but make sure you get a honorable discharge. Also, try to apply for a job in Google, Facebook, Boeing, Lockhead Martin, or Twitter. You will get good job opportunties. Good luck
this definitely helped me out . thanks a lot for making these videos bro
you got it!
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I’m joining the marines, but I’ve only swore in once and I wasn’t paying attention to what I was signing I signed a MT contract and I wanted Infantry. I’m pretty sure you have to swear in twice before they have you stuck!
Yeah same , I went nothing bad can happen to you. My marine recuriter was saying the other branches weren't gonna take u but thats bs . Its a scare tactic they use to keep you in.
Well, my recruiter has my diploma, soo....
rip
If you opt out of this, will you be able to join the branch again on a later date or will you have to find another one to join?
I do not see why not. You may need high scores to be taken serious and stay competitive among other candidates.
29? OMG, talk about being over the Hill. I spent 26-years in the Army.
Hey, idk if you’ll end up reading this but I need some advice dude. I’m planning to change branch from marines to navy because I realize I wanna pursue my medical career and marines doesn have any medical related jobs. Any advice what should I tell my recruiter? We kinda build trust and bonds over time since I’ve been a polee for almost 6 months
2 things. First, talk to your Marines recruiter and tell them straight up that you want something medical. Maybe there is something within the Marines branch that may help you. If that doesn't work, talk to a Navy recruiter to help guide you.
I swore in two days ago for the airforce and now I am in DEP. But after going through MEPS it made me realize I don't want to do this anymore. Can there be any legal actions that can be taken against me if I try to drop from DEP. Also idk if I should just text my recruiter that I don't wanna go any further with the process or should send a letter to my recruiting Commander? Note: I haven't picked any jobs yet and do not have a shipping date.
Hey man I hope you’re doing well, but I was wondering if you went through with dropping out of DEP and if you did what was the process like?
@@111Demz dog you drop from DEP?
How long do you need to wait after dropping out of DEP to enlist into the same or another branch? What type of waiver will you need?
Did you ever figure it out, I also in dep and I'm going to be ending, meaning dropping out, but I want to re-enlist again in a year? How was your process
@@housealm5141do you know anything about that?
My ship date just changed.. they called me today to leave this week and I am not all ready I still have to get something in order. originally ship date was January 2018. Can I do anything to push the ship date back?
+Dana Hall yeah, tell them you're not ready. That you won't show up
I just requested to get dropped from the DEP in the Navy because I found a better deal in another branch. The recruiters aren't dropping me, they're dragging their feet. What do I do? I've gone back to them a couple of times already for a month already and they just give me excuses.
on your Ship out date. Just don't go.
Military is voluntary. They can't force you to do something. Talk to the recruiters in the other branch. They will sort it out for you. (they should)
I did, they can't do anything. I don't blame the Navy being slow, because they have no incentive to help me out. I ended up calling the higher ups in the recruiting command and I think it sped things up.
Jakub Rosman how did it go?
Jakub Rosman I got out of the Navy Dep. Matter in fact I switched to the Marine Corps. Simply, the navy was not happy and it took about a month in a half to shift my papers over to the marine corps dep. In my case my recruiter in the marine corps made me convince him that i won't drop out of the marine corps dep and actually commit. Now finishing up my first year in the marine corps.
I have a question, I got out of DEP, but I was wondering if I’m able to try to join again in the future? Basically I wanted to join and went to meps and in DEP program but I changed my mind and now I regret it. Can I go back to a different recruiter and rejoin?
Absolutely. Let me tell you this- they dont care. Itll simply be the loss of one recruiter and the gain of another one. There is absolutely no penalty involved in leaving DEP, and even the same recruiter would most likely not mind taking you back. Just think about you, its your life. If you wanna go ahead and do it, go for it.
Ninjas_In_Pajamas are you serious? This give me some hope! It’s just I had a really bad recruiter who didn’t seem to care or help me get the job I want. He said the only job available is security force and mechanics. I tried for Air Force and I admire it a lot! I wanted an admin or personnel job. He said none is available. And I was going to be a police. Which i did not want. So after I finish meps, I was like oh no I can’t go in with security force job. But thank you for giving me some hope. Also I’m scared my recruiter might put me on the blacklist?
@@Kevinyoul0o5serr The hardest thing for you will probably be getting the rate that you want. Trust me, I couldnt leave on my designated bc date bc of an injury and I lost my hospital corpsman rate (which is really hard to come by). Currently I've been in DEP for 1 and a half years just waiting for that rate, and pretty soon if I cant get it I wont join. DO NOT feel pressured into taking a job you don't want, and if they tell you "you can go in as X and then change" NO, 8/10 it wont happen. So just be careful 😌
I signed with the Marines DEP did it cuz my dad was a Marine. Realize the Navy has better opportunities for me. Talked to my recruiter said I now have to wait til September to be discharged. Not sure if the Navy recruiter can speed the process up or not.
go talk to them and find out.
JustYoon according to the Navy recruiter the Marine recruiter was bluffing by saying I have to wait til September the could discharge me tomorrow he said. Basically told me to keep calling them up every so often asking if they discharged me yet.
@@kaijudude_ did you ever get discharged?Im in the same situation
@@swisha6717 Yup! Took the whole summer of 2019 but I was finally discharged in early September of that year. As soon as I was I went to the Navy recruiter and they filled everything out went to MEPs again but I only had to do a brief update(new tattoos etc) it wasn't a full examination. They still had my info from when I went to MEPs with the Marines. Picked my Navy rate and I went off to bootcamp November 20th 2019. I'm currently going on my 3rd year in the Navy and I plan on reenlisting once 2023 comes.
@@kaijudude_ how long did getting discharged take?Im in the navy dep right now but if they don’t switch my job I plan on going to the Air Force
I just signed a couple days ago, I wasnt aware I was going to be choosing a job. I thought I was going for a physical. When i ecplained that to the person giving me my rate he told me if I did not how upset and pissed everyone in the room at the time would be with me. I have a chance to go to college and after signing I feel like that is the best bet. I still want to wait it out to see if I have a change of heart but Im a very stubborn person when i feel a certain way I usually stick to that way. If I told my mentor and recruiter I would not be going through with it,i know they will antagonize me that its not the right decision and such. If I write them a letter can I then just completely ignore them. Im not idiot I know they need to meet a quota and i would be affecting that. Sorry long message, just nervous fuckin wreck right now.
How did it go? I'm in the midst of my recruiters and other Navy personnel that I don't even know costantly feeding me questionable information after I informed them that I am choosing to get out of the DEP
Thanks this video helps a lot🥺 I went to meps two weeks ago and signed up, for the past two weeks I've been scared because I feel like I made a big mistake.😵 I want to do something with my life but I know that I have to look at all my options and I feel like I just ran with the first, g*d help me 😶🤞and I've been thinking about backing out.😫
Damn Same I went to meps on oct 9 and I was so passionate about joining the marines. Its nov 2 and Im really thinking about it like damn , Maybe I should just do trade school or something, because 4 years doesn't sound like alot , but at the same time it does .
I’ve been in Navy DEP for about 2 weeks now, and my job requires a top secret security clearance, which I lied about a few things on the form they use to grant you one.. so if I join I’m totally screwed! I leave for Basic in less than a month and am planning on dropping out of Navy Dep so I can join the Army instead, and actually do a job that seems up my ally. I’ve been crying all morning about it though, I feel like I’ve let everyone down!
@@bigchungus2990 any updates? Going through the same thing in Air Force dep.. so stressed ab it
Does anyone know if there are negative implications?
1) If you withdraw from DEP, will it affect future employments such as local, state and federal? 2) Will a certain DEP discharge (if I’m not mistaken it is “uncharacterized”) show on a background check? 3) Will I be handed a DD214 form?
If any one here has gotten a government job with a DEP discharge let me know please!
did you ever find out??
No man you're completely safe if you back out during DEP. Depending on your recruiter, some will spout some complete bullshit how it'll affect your future life permantly, but that's just a way to scare you into staying. So if you're having second thoughts, don't be afraid to tell your recruiter that you're no more. They can't legally do anything.
okay so just to make this clear? ive been to MEPS and taken my Physical and signed and sworn in. but I've been in DEP for a month and am set to leave for bootcamp on july 6th so 17 days from now. so all i have to do is not show up on the ship date and Im good? i have no interest in joining at all now. i wont get into trouble? im starting to freak out. do I have to sign separation paperwork?
The right thing to do is to tell your recruiter you don't want to do it anymore. Then take it from there. Your recruiter obviously will try to convince you otherwise. At the end of the day, if you don't want to join you dont have to. There are NO punishment for you. You still are a civilian. Talk it over with your family and make your decision.
If you decide not to join, tell your recruiter so he won't get in trouble if you don't show up.
Hypothetically speaking, if your recruiter gives you a hard time and says your going 100% and you don't want to. You do not have to show up for your ship out date.
she just showed up at my house and we talked about it. shes not mad at all
Austin Mansker did u have to do paperwork to drop out
Basically you just dont report anything on every Monday and dont go to DEP meeting, dont show up in MEPS on your ship date? Do you have to come back to Navy office to sign any release paper?
Vu Thuy Duong no
Ok but what if you get out of the DEP and didn’t go to boot camp after swearing in and signing etc... ultimately you’ll be discharged right? If so, what kind of discharge will this be? Also, would you be able to get into the military again later down in life after doing this ?
This is not any type of official discharge from service. You just choose not to join so nothing.
JustYoon does this apply to National Guard as well? The reason I asked is because NG is state jurisdiction. Will I face penalties at state level? If so, what are those penalties?
Hey, I'm currently in the DEP program and already signed and did the oath they had at MEPs, is it too late to back out?
did you find out??
Do they make you sign papers? Or can you just left them know?
Janasia Spotson no
Jimmy Bolf this answered nothing
I enlisted for the Marine Corps DEP, but i am starting to realize that I am not ready for this commitment yet. Is it possible to discharge and renlist in military.
to reenlist at a later time, once i figure out what i want to do with my life
You can leave the DEP
@@tuccisosaflame1726what happened
So I took the oath and signed everything and shipping out next month on the 22nd of June. I am attending college and about to finish my semester the end of this month and realized I wanted to focus on college more now and especially with good things happening right now. (Going into active for the military) now, I want to focus more on my college but I’m afraid my recruiter is going to tell me about the whole awol thing. I do meet with him on Wednesday and definitely want to talk about it with him but is there any chance I can leave the dep or am I stuck with it?
What happened ? I’m in the same situation
@@Hxik14 Honestly nothing. I called/texted my recruiter and talked to him about me leaving. He asked me to come in and sign some papers but I knew he was going to try and persuade me to stay so I didn’t go and plus it was a long drive back but that’s partly my fault. I just blocked him. I let him know in May 15 and after two weeks he stopped texting me. We’ll see after June 22nd if anything happens really.
@@PizzaRoll everything online I can find says me and you should be good . I don’t want to join the military at all , my ship date is July 18th and I’ve been to meps and sworn in . Real nervous
@@Hxik14 Don’t worry! I was really worrying about it to but we should be fine! I also heard we do a final swear in where the day we ship off is our final and last day and after that we can do anything about it so we’re fine!
@@PizzaRoll any update? :/
Thank you for this. Only question is if you don’t go, can you sign up again later on?
Talon Merrill you can takes about 3-6 months. The only thing is recruiters talk to other recruiters, so if you jump ship to another branch and they know you have gotten outta the DEP before they might not want to work with you.
@@xxkidst3v3oxx85 what about if they discharge me?Would I immediately be able to go to another branch?
@@swisha6717 it’s on a case by case basis, I’ve seen “other than honorable” discharges go through it takes a minute but it can go through also depends on what you got discharged for ie (we’re you discharged on the count of anxiety or depression, did you want to kill yourself during training etc. just examples) your RE Code plays a big factor in this when you get out. But to answer your question “Yes” if you get discharged you can re enter again but it’s under completely different circumstances. 😂 sorry for the long explanation.
The recruiter said I need to return the things that they gave me at MEPS (shirt, start guide, backpack etc.) Am I required to or is it their way of getting me to go to the office?
Marissa Ortiz might be a trick
Marissa Ortiz Hi so you just did this all over message? you didnt have to go in?
@@jennifero1314 So you're technically supposed to send a letter and you can find the format on google but I sent the letter through email, and yea that's it, I was never contacted again
They’re cheap!! Lmao 🤣🤢 I didn’t do a letter since I went through the hassle of just trying to civilly talk to them and they’re still trying to keep me in side line ways like they’re sending me weird shit in the mail but I know I don’t have to give it back it’s mine
Does the same apply for the reserves? Can you back out if you no longer want to join?
did you find out
@@IyadElBazreserves is different
Thank you, thank you so much
I heard if you don’t get separate papers and just go awol it looks bad in your record, I’m guessing your military record. Is that true ?
No not if your in the DEP?
I was in the dep pool
Thats a lie. You dont even have a military record. Heres the thing, you ARE NOT in the military until that last swear in on bootcamp date. There is no penalty for leaving DEP and it is very easy to leave.
@@meylinhernandez461 I have a question, I recently decided to drop out of DEP for personal reasons, I sent the letter and my recruiters won't leave me alone so I stopped answering to them, but they contacted my mom saying I need to return my "navy gear" is this true or are they trying to get me to go into the office to talk?
@@marissaortiz7903 hmm that's a good question. If by gear they mean the navy cap, tshirt, and little backpack they give (and if you still have them lol), imo those seem like very trivial things to NEED back. It definetly sounds like they want you to come in to talk. I would just send your mom by herself to return them- if that's all they want, there should be no problem w that.
can you have a say in your ship date? Like I go to college, I don't care when I ship to basic, but, I don't want to ship during a college semester and waste money, but, at the same time, I don't want to take time off of school and not ship... and just waste my time doing nothing..
Yes, you can talk to them and try to coordinate something. If it is available you should be able to. You should not have any problem at all.
Going inactive reserve is basically civilian tho so why call it 8? Unless u go active reserves which still isn't that bad. That what I'm telling myself to make me feel better, please give me a reality check if one in due
How is things
I hope you’re still responding man. I just signed contracts last week and swore in. But now i’m confident i don’t want to go. And i spoke with my recruiter and he’s making it harder for me. I spoke to the main guy at the marine corp office where i go and he gave me a rough time and it felt like i had 0 options, like i was forced to stay here. He wanted me to make me keep going to the PT. What should i do? What are my rights ? I don’t want them to bother me no more
Glaz im having the same situation too which is crazy! I basically talked to the marine recruiter because my friend wanted to see how it would be for me because he already is in the dep program.
And without fully thinking about it i ended up following whag they were saying and went through meps and had a 4 by 4 contract not know what my job is or anything. I went through that process almost a month ago and now i am having second thoughts and want out of the marines by 110%. It was hard at first telling my recruiter and then teling the main head recruiter too. I have a meeting with a supervisor who is a higher rank then everyone in the building tomorrow maybe and explain them briefly i want out. No matter how hard it might be to get crapped on by them stick to your word and gut and all you have to say is "you want out and the marines is not for me" and they are just gonna have to accept that.
@@Noahilbmann Cause look man , realistically there’s so much i wish i could explain to you but i don’t prefer messaging on youtube but yeah they’ll do whatever it takes to keep you in. Thankfully my recruiter didn’t give me as much of a hard time that the head recruiter did but it was still rough. But yeah, then making you come in, it’s just not a good idea. I did exactly did and it was the worst time of my life. If you can, try to bring a parent with you and if they don’t let you then tell them that you will not be coming in
@@glazzzed2482 did you sign release paperwork? Or you just don’t show up at all?
@@alexvasquez4935 I didn’t have to sign anything. They pretty much did all the paperwork. Not sure how it goes. You don’t need to show up or say anything. Some might tell you that you have to but you don’t , it’s all volunteer
@@glazzzed2482 thanks man. I already informed my recruiter. I’m meeting up with him today but he says i have to sign separation paperwork. If anything I’ll just apologize to him in person and walk out the door.
Hey JustYoon Im shipping out in the army soon as a future soldier and Im really stressed out and I feel like I don't want to go in anymore and go for college. I've talked to my family and there for it but I haven't talked to my recruiter and I feel really bad they did all that work. I'm not really sure what to say. Any suggestions on what I can say so it doesn't feel as bad?
What did U end up doing I feel the same way
fonseca2018 Fonseca what happened? Did you ship out?
I recently enlisted in the Army National Guard. Now I got an opportunity with a local law enforcement. And I want to go for that now. Can i still back out before my ship date??
Neto! Ale Yes, you can bro.
Neto! Ale how’d that go
Are you ok
Update ?
Alexi Hernandez you can back out without even telling your recruiter
How long does it take to switched over. I already took my asvab with the army and want to switch to navy. Its taking forever for my stuff to transfer and I was hoping to go to MEPs for my physical before Christmas
You have to continuously follow up with them. Remember they work for you. You need to make them work, it's their job to make sure you have a good transition from civilian to military.
I'm in DEP right now and leaving this july for active duty but im having second thoughts about it and wanted to go as reserves instead, told my recruiter about it and he told me that it is not possible to change my status back to reserve because they already got me plane tickets and other stuff. i was just wondering if it's true or not. thank you.
HAHA. While it might be true they have all this planned for you. At the end of the day, if you don't want to be active duty you don't have to be active duty.
They got you the plane ticket to boot camp, active duty or reserves still have to go to boot camp.
What it comes down to is your recruiter doing extra paper work which it doesn't seem like they want to do for you.
They can't force you to do anything. Military is a voluntary service.
So I got a contract and now in DEP for navy but I had a change in heart and don't want to go, my ship date is in late June. I talked to my recruiter earlier today and said I didn't want to do DEP anymore he got upset and said I signed stuff and to meet him at his office on Monday, if are still responding sir how should I go about the meeting? I would greatly appreciate the advice!
Its been 4 months now, did you actually get out of DEP?
@@captaineric5276 yeah I got out, my recruiters were definitely not happy about it, I brought someone I trusted for moral support at the meeting but it went in my favor
@@candidatepiety2186 so were they like “you can’t back out you already signed papers” cause that’s what they are telling me. And they’re telling me I have to sign papers to get out
@@KidGhost754 you don't have to sign any paper to get out of DEP, when I went to the office I brought my mom and limited the meeting to 10 minutes, I brought a letter I wrote about the reasons why I left. The recruiters were telling me the same thing, I had to sign some papers to get out of DEP which is just untrue, Ive done research and spoke to a knowledgeable person who knows what to do to get out online. During the meeting the recruiters were telling me I need to sign papers, I refused saying I don't need to sign anything, handed them my letter on why I was leaving, I did sign the letter I wrote though, but only that, nothing more, than I left the office with my mom.
No matter what they tell you you don't have to sign anything they put in front of you, doesn't matter what they say either, if you don't want in anymore they can't force you UNLESS you show up to MEPs on ship date and sign papers. If they tell you to do that don't do it, I've heard stories where the recruiter did that and the person got sent to basic training.
girightshotline.org/en/military-knowledge-base/delayed-entry-program-discharge-dep-discharge/
I called the number listed on this website and spoke to them about my situation and they gave me advice, if it helps you maybe you could do the same? I'd recommend it if you are trying to leave DEP
I hope this helps! I know it's stressful but its up to you on how you live your life! I wish you the best of luck!
It's against the Uniform Code of Military Justice if the recruiters try to threaten you to stay in. If you want out, just get out. It's only gonna hurt the recruiter but not you. You won't face penalty for backing out of your contract and you won't face dishonorable discharge. You'll still have a chance to reenlist later on in life. It's never the end of the road. Military service today is all volunteer forces so they don't need you.
I joined the navy January 28th and a few days later I decided I didn’t wanna join anymore I wanted to join the army instead. I meet with my chain of command February 3rd and he said I’d be released nearly a month later I’m still sitting here waiting what should I do to speed this up I ship March 24th
Tell them you won't ship march 24th, and they'll have a bigger headache to deal with. Go talk to your army recruiters and they'll provide you with some ammo too
I barley got into the dep program 2 months ago and honestly want to leave it, cause I have a good job opportunity with good benefits, I told my recruiter and he still tries to talk to me to get me to stay, what do I do? My ship date isn’t till next year so do I just ignore them or will they come to my house?
You can ignore him for all you want and if he shows up to your house you can ask him to leave because he can’t force you to go
I don’t wanna drop out of DEP but I do wanna postpone my ship date, I recently been having some physical issues with my feet and plus i think I’m still dirty for a drug test... what should I do, I ship out in 4 days
That's a really bad situation tbh, and it reminds me of mine. I fractured my foot and since I couldnt leave on date for bc, I lost my 'guaranteed' hm rate. It fucking sucks and I'm still trying to get that rate back
So what I wanna say is, if you cant leave on time for x and y reasons just know rhe worst thing that can happen is you have to pick another rate
I became apart of the Navy rep program for about 4 months and i leave this up coming january and i am so scared of the decision i had made, i didnt give myself any time to think it through and i dont want to leave next month. I dont know if this is all accurate im really scared to talk to my recruiter, but i been reading over my contract and it doesnt say im obligated to go to basic training or anything like that. I just want advice from anyone who has successfully dropped out of the DEP program if possible😅
Kalissa Schneider you can get out anytime you want. I’m currently in the DEP for the Marines. Until you step foot on the bus and get to your basic training location, you don’t have to go. Yes it’s kinda scary to talk to your recruiter telling them that you no longer want to do it. They may get upset or not. They can’t do anything about it. Shoot. You can get to the airport and decide there you don’t want to do it and buy a ticket home. The point is you can back out anytime. You may have repercussions about re joining again but there is no penalty for backing out.
I just am having second thoughts on my rate and wanna know if I can switch even if it's a earlier or later date.
Going to be super hard to switch now or even after you join. You can try to fight the fight, now would be the best time.
@@MrYoonKim dang probably would have been best to not have picked a rate that day.🤦♂️ Oh well I've always been a glass half full kinda guy.
So my ship date coming up in couple months And I want to quit but for now I’m stuck doing pt and stuff but I don’t wanna do that or join anymore should I tell them or what should I do and sorry bad at English
If you don't want you can tell your recruiter you don't want to anymore. Ultimately it is your choice.
JustYoon what happens if I just don’t show up and they start looking for me I’m in the dep for marines
@@brauliocamacho1174 I'm in the same boat to. They cant legally come and drag you out of your home. Like he said in the video the military is completely voluntary and the recruiters will say otherwise cuz that's what they do
I told my Navy recruiter I wasn’t going no more & my ship date is May 5 but he told me the Navy can’t discharge me till July is this true ?
As long as you don't leave for boot camp you're fine. They might need to process the paper work. I don't know the exact process. Just don't leave for boot camp and you're good.
What happened, did you ship?
Never getting a student loan is doing you a big favor.
Wait why?
I signed my contract for the Army and I’m supposed to ship out in less than two weeks on May 15th. I changed my mind like two days after signing and now I’m just gonna ghost my recruiters. I sent them a letter requesting a discharge and I hope they get the message
thats good
Update?
I was handed a job and I wasn't given a job selection. I already signed my contract. Can I change it? I know if I call my recruiter he going to try and make it sound like I can't change it.
+The one If i was in your situation and with what I know now here is what I would do. Call my recruiter and tell him you want to change your job or else you are not joining. If he is not taking care of you try a different recruiting station.
What happened now
Bro same thing happened to me couple weeks ago I recruiter made me pick a job I didn't want regretting getting it
Is this the same for the air national guard?
Yes, it is same throughout all branches. No military service can force you to join. If you want to you can opt out of whatever you signed at DEP.
0:20 exactly!!
I've sworn in with the army and signed my contract/ship date is dec 27th... does anything in video/comments vary from navy to army?....
I let me recruiter know about 2 weeks ago (month and a half before ship date) and now he's telling me I need to sign separation paperwork or I'll be considered AWOL. Scared because of how much sense his argument makes, but also relaxed because of your video and other forums...... just don't know what to do anymore honesty. Please help. Thanks for the videos
Hey since it's been two years since you commented this, how did it all go for you? Is there a way out cause I recently enlisted in the army and now I want out and my ship date is May 26th
DarthVader1100 did you ship out?
Do you have to write an email to them to say you wanna get out of DEP? Only swearing 2nd time and sign last page of contract before departing in MEPS 2nd time will make it valid and you may go to jail if you dont follow it right?
No haha, no punishment if you do not want to go.
If you do not want to you can walk away with no harm. Recruiters might intimidate you to stay, because they put in a lot of work to get you through this process. However, at the end of the day. It is a volunteer service. If you choose to opt out, you can opt out.
they are telling me to come back to sign the seperation paperwork.
Vu Thuy Duong you don't have to do that, you can simply write a letter or do nothing, that's just a way to get you to go into their office and try to convince you to stay,
in 2010 when I was 18 my USMC recruiter was getting impatient with my lack of run time improvements and essentially told me to quit.
Now at 26 I feel I am actually healthy enough to pass the IST. Will being kicked out of a DEP prevent me from entering the USMC? Will it effect my ability to join other branches?
Hey brother I did my first swear into the DEP program and I am having ALOT of family issues and financial/housing issues that have affected my training. I signed some documents a few months back but I digress since I haven't done the official swear in can I leave the DEP? Whenever you could get back to me would be greatly appreciated.
At the end of the day, if you want to get out you can get out. Let your recruiter know whats going on. Know, it is their job to prevent you from getting out of DEP. You have the final say in everything. Until you step into Recruiter Training Center it is your choice.
Recruiting training center ?
Will u gave trouble if u wona enlist down the road
What if I fail to come to a schedule meeting with an officer having the reason of forgetting about the schedule? I’m scared man
Forgetting an appointment happens. They can't punish you for it. Own up to it, and they'll be alright.
@@MrYoonKim yea, I just went there like 3 days ago and he didn’t even mentioned anything about it. I was real scared when I came there lmao
i’m a senior in high-school trying to get out of marine delayed entry because of I would rather go in to a different branch. How ever after speaking to my recruiters about withdrawing from delayed entry they kept telling me I have to speak to a board and that I might not get my withdrawal accepted by them. Which I know is bogus but I really don’t want to wait all the way until my bootcamp date to get out. what should I do ?
Yes, that is a trick they're playing to keep you in. At the end of the day you are NOT obligated until you step on the bus to leave for Boot Camp.
You could take few routes.
1) Face it heads on, tell them you know they're BSing. Tell them to show you in BLACK AND WHITE paper where YOU MUST go. It doesn't exist.
2) Ask your parents for some back up. They can lie to you, but sometimes they can't lie to them.
3) Ask another branch recruiter. Whatever branch you want to join, ask them for some help.
I still want to join but my girlfriend doesn’t want me to leave... don’t know what I should do
Girlfriends are not forever set your future up for success bc she can cheat or leave whenever sir.
Yeah man loose the girl. Don’t marry here either. You’ll know what we’re talking about if you join.
Can you join later after leaving the DEP program? Or are there consequences?
Luke Akerboom yes but for the same branch they might not consider you as much
They take anybody they just lie to keep you in
I signed my contract already and did the first swearing , can I still get out before my shipping date ?
If you wish to. Yes.
I signed today and did the 1st swear in and I'm thinking about wanting out of DEP
Keeman47 what happened? Did you get out?
Rza yea I ended up getting out
Keeman47 so what happened to you? What kind of discharge you got? Not any punishment? Cause I have the same issue
Do I have to sign any paperwork to get out? Or just let them know?
my recruiter didn't make me sign anything when I got out my DEP
A Delacruz I made acontact as well, but I’m not sure it was through DEP or not, can I still get out?
I'm wondering too, updates? I notified them but don't trust them after the fitst lie and no longer want to sign anything else.
Bebé too late y’all I’m in now lmfao, don’t give in to the cold feet and join :) best decision I’ve made
@@des9210 what rate did you choose?
i decided to dep out of the navy and join the army because the navy recruiters gave me false promises saying i could change my job before i shipped out. Its been about a month now. but the navy has not taken me out of their system. so i cant join the army or start my process until i’m out of there. how should i proceed?
Roy De la cruz Bro I’m just about to call my recruiter tomorrow to switch to the Army too. I’d say keep bugging them. Call your Navy recruiter. Call their Chief. Show up to the office everyday and keep bugging them. Be pushy but don’t be rude.
SHIB I’ve already. i keep asking every day about my discharge papers but they keep saying they already did their part and waiting on MEPS.
SHIB Did you get discharged?
I'm trying to do the same. I'm already in navy dep and my ship date is in 5 weeks, but I want to join the army instead. Give me some info on what you've experienced.
@@gedunkgrimes7267 on my Navy DEP experience? It was good I've made good friends and learned a lot of things.
Hey I just signed my 1st contact in the recruiter office and sworn into the navy there but after thinking I wanted to do college and gotten a bigger opportunity with the rotc program today. I had second thoughts on going to the navy and instead I wanted to go in college instead. Should I talk to my recruiter or should I write a letter? I don’t know what to do?
I sworn in yesterday (forgot to mention)
What did you do? I’m in the same situation!
did u get out??
can i get out of dep if i already swore in and signed a contract at meps? i know when i ship i’ll have to swear in again and sign another portion of the contract. but i’m under the impression that i can still opt out before i leave for bootcamp, is that true?
Watch the whole video.
Im in the process of dropping from the army and enlisting with the marines .
Bigg boff lol I’m in the process of dropping the marines to enlist with the army ..
@@beastchristianx lol what made you want to switch to army ? btw Im shipping out to basic this monday .
Bigg boff I didn’t qualify for a lot of jobs in the marines man their all limited , I wanted something that would of benefit me in the civilian side if god forbid something happend. And I also wanted to leave asap so the only jobs they offered me was motor t and infantry . I put the 4 line scores I was given into go army and already qualified for 20 jobs lol, mind you I’m still missing more line scores so I’d qualify for more
Wow
Hi. Im going to choose my job in MEPS next two weeks. My ship out date is about june 2019. Now i change my mind, can i leave the army? Is it possible? Thank you so much!
Yes, you still can.
The mixed feeling you have right now is normal. Your recruiter will try to convince you to still go through with it. It is normal for them to do that, they might try to pull the most crazy tricks, but at the end of the day. You're not a solider, you are still a civilian. You have a choice.
Is operation specialist a good job in the navy!?
Hi April. In my best opinion any job in the Navy is a good job as long as it relates to what you want to do AFTER your military career.
To say one job is good is difficult for me to say. Since all jobs are important and needed.
+Yoon Ho Kim 김윤호 thank you for the reply! I just recently enlisted into the navy! And they offered me to do OS because the job I wanted wasn't available! But they said I still have a chance to change my job before boot camp!
@@MrYoonKim What is Operation Specialist? Do you perform operations on people?
Do you know if you need to send a letter to anyone? I already told my recruiter and the navy station commander that I no longer wish to join the military back in April 2nd. Not sure if i was suppose to sign paper work or write a letter. Someone pleasr help!
Hopefully this will help but for my cousin he left the USMC DEP. he called his recruiter and that was it. He didn’t sign anything at all.
@@theundisputed3671yeah that actually helps has he had to send a letter or anything?
@@dumbotoonz9147Nope, no letters whatsoever. He told me that he literally texted his recruiter to be dropped from the DEP. Then his recruiter called him to confirm, my cousin said yes. And that was it. No papers signed or any of that crap.
@@theundisputed3671 Alright thank you so much, I told my recruiter and the navy station commander that I no longer wanted to serve, obviously they were mad and frustrated as they dont respond to any of my messages a week after i went to their office to confirm leaving
@@dumbotoonz9147Don’t worry about it brother, obviously they are gonna be a bit mad but at the end of the day it’s your choice. My cousins recruiter hasn’t texted or called my cousin after he told him so yeah. Once you let them know that’s it, move on. Best of luck with your future endeavors my friend 👍
I'm about to ship out to the Army but can I change my mind and switch to the Marine Corps before my ship date
Pretty late into the game, will be extrenely hard. The ship out date is processed for your Army service not Marine. Best thing to do is go to a Marine recruiter to see your options.
@@MrYoonKim ok thanks man
Same shipping out to the army but I don't want the job Im doing I wanna change it I got infantry I want a admin job
@@jaredmaldonado6957 how it go ?
Can you do meps and then go to basic military training or do you have to do dep
Recruiter -> MEPS -> DEP -> Basic.
Will there be any consequences such as dishonorable discharge?
No
To get out of DEP can you just not show on your ship date to MEPS?
AwesomeBolf Yes, that’s one way to do it. But it’s much simpler to just tell your recruiter you’re not interested anymore
Who put you on this planet? agent my recruiter was an asshole so I just block their numbers and sent a letter to the recruiting station haven’t heard from them since May and my ship date in December.
AwesomeBolf Oh that sucks man. Yeah just don’t show up; you will be separated for “failure to report for training” and no consequences
Who put you on this planet? agent some one who’s active duty army told that once you sign your in and if you don’t show I’m gonna get arrested. He not a recruiter
AwesomeBolf You’re still in DEP after 6 months? Damn son, get in contact with the recruiting headquarters (the place all the substations report to) and talk to the officer in charge, it’s that easy. Just google -your city’s name- your branch of service- recruiting headquarters. Go to the website-contact us-get the number and call. Good luck
Love your videos 👍🏽
+Mikaya Moorleghen Thank you~ I thought you were heading out Monday? (Yesterday)
+Yoon Kim got set back because of a blister so I go back in two weeks :(
My ship date is in two weeks and I don’t wanna be in the Navy anymore my recruiter isn’t I did the first swear and sign the DEP contract can I still get out?
AwesomeBolf yes you can. Just don’t show up.
Did you ship out?
Rza no
Jimmy Bolf what happened? Did they punish you or something?
Rza nah
I’m signing into the DEP today, so man I’m getting nervous, I know I want to do it but oh man
How’d it go
You got it bro
Went smoothly no issues whatsoever
i told my recruiter i want out and met them today to see there boss but he was not there and want me to see him tomorrow do i not go
keep me posted on what happens
JustYoon i met with them and he told me just to return everything the marines gave me and told me good luck with my life
now what happens to all the papperwork
Any updates? I'm trying myself tomorrow
Is this the same for the reserves??
did you find out
Hey great video Bro! So I told my recruiter that I want to drop and she’s giving me crap, I’ve just found better opportunities and now her boss wants to talk with me and says that it’s required that I call and speak with him.. should I speak to her boss?
You do not have to. It's not required for you to do anything. You're still a civilian.
They’re such lowlives aren’t they
Is this true for all branches?
It is the same with reserves
Who wants to leave cuz of ww3?
andy juarez lmaoo i just wanna get out of dep i think i might’ve jumped the gun a bit
baseball 1 lol same i ship in march 9th
andy juarez bro i ship feb 3rd lol i just texted my recruiter that i wasn’t going , that i changed my mind and he wants me to go to the office to “ sign discharge paperwork “
baseball 1 i dont think yo u gotta sign to discharge from what i heard i think he just wants to talk to you and to persuade you to stay but if you dont want to you dont have to, youre not obligated until you do your official swear in
andy juarez bro honestly if you’re having second thoughts don’t go , i just didn’t want to because , there was only one job available for me and i didn’t want it , but the counselor, kept insisting i sign for the job , even though i kept saying no , but after like 10 minutes of back and forth and talking i just gave in. So i know i’m not gonna be happy with my mos so i just decided not to go through with it.
Can someone help me please so I went to talk to my recruiter today about quitting but I wasn't able to because his argument counter mine and he also quoted me and has proof of it so I don't know what to do but for now he just said bring back a list of pros and cons tomorrow and we talk about
They will show and do anything to make you stay in. At the end of the day, you're not a military member yet. If you don't want to go, you don't have to go.
My recruiter tried to quote me all the time because I get too busy with my job for PT and they make a big ass deal about it and like try to scare me in a way tgat there gonna let me go
If you are considering getting out of the military DEP program don't do it. The military is the best decision you can make in life. Anyone who tells you to get out of the military doesn't have your best interest in mind.
Can you change your job in dep
Anything is possible if they're willing to work with you
*Does anyone know if you will get booted out of the dep program if you dont graduate highschool on time* ???
Your shipout gets pushed back
8 years? you're an LS. I'll be a nuke, 2 years train/educate, 4 active, 2 reserve.
how are you 8 years?
+Davied Stevens I have 1 year education, 4 years active and 3 years reserve~
How long was you contract (the 4,5,6 year contract)
My hard contract is 4 years. Soft contract is 1 year. To answer your question 4.
+Davied Stevens Just cause you are a nuke doesnt mean he cant stay in for 8 years. He meant that he will be active for 5 and 3 reserve. He will be attached to the military until he is 29(because of the 3 years reserve). My contract is the same, 4 active and 4 reserve.
My contract is a 4 years plus another 12 month obligation on top of that/3 years reserve . I just swore in February 8th,2018 and I leave June 6th for Bootcamp.
Can you get out of a DAR? **Urgent**
Are you serious what about the few stories we hear of getting hunted down
Can I quit on my ship date
Pussy
Yes, you have a choice. Stay blessed
Stay blessed
@@skylerreichenbach207 lol💀are you joining
my ship date is tomorrow ill come back to this comment on monday to let anyone know if anything happens……
So its been a week after my ship date and nothing has happened. All I had to do to get out was to tell my recruiter that I no longer wanted to join. I didnt have to sign papers or write a letter to anyone. Anyone with questions can comment under this!
@@dumbotoonz9147 Nice
Are you joining another branch?
@@LjredRNo I just realized that joining the military isnt for me
@@dumbotoonz9147 I’m going to talk to my recruiter tomorrow so how it goes