@@MykolasGilbert "I AM" is not a belief. It's direct experience. Nothing in this dialogue was circular reasoning though it might seem that way if "I" is completely identified/merged with mind content.
Very honest dialogue. Finite mind observes start-stop which it can describe. Questioner encouraged by Rupert and group is unable to "describe" awareness/I am because it's infinite, clap, clap. My big stuckness is what happens when physical body dies? Isn't that also another stop? I have now launched into Dream Yoga in hopes to understand how to die before I die, and bypass the Somsara wheel. I will look up Rupert's feedback on reincarnation. So much more to discover.
Rupert Spira 🙏 The very One's 'being' is undescribable when asked about it - because there are no words in any form of language to represent or express it through words or speech. Ultimately, when pressed upon to describe it, the enquirer hesitates & utterly failed, and get stuck on it to remain in silent. Just to be in silence. Because 'being' is infinite, beyond thinking, description, sensation, imagination, conception, perception and or space-time. And that silence is the 'true nature state' of One's most fundamental underlying 'being' embody in body & mind as One's beingness or aliveness. 😊🙏🙇♂️🌷
I was just wondering if you know how stupid your narrative sounds out loud? If I were to ask you another question, like how tired would your arms feel if you were to fly to The Andromeda Galaxy, you mind would also go blank!! It's because these questions are nothing but parlor tricks that either can't be answered by a person or would take a considerable amount of time to contemplate and possibly might be better asked on the day you about to DIE!!!
@@dano7739 No, being is a manifestation not the basis of what is. There is no being, the same as there is no flower in and of itself. The careless use of translation words has confused any possible understanding of basic reality.
The finite entity works with finite entity and the infinity can touch the infinity. The infinite in us we call the spirit. The nature of spirit is an absence of fear (every kind of limitation) and evolving of the love. We can touch to infinity only by way of love.
@ I am afraid infinity is non-exclusive. Good and bad are exactly the same thing only differing in density. Enough water quenches the thirst. Too much will kill you. Duality is a degree of density or intensity. Evil is actually too much love. Too much love of a thing is the root of all evil.
This simply doesn‘t make any sense. As nobody has ever actively „not been“, we don‘t have a contrast of „being“. Without that contrast, the question is like asking what has taken place before the big bang. Life, the requirement of an awareness of being, ends. For everyone. So it‘s finite. Just the lack of ability to describe „being“ doesn‘t make anything infinite.
What does the term infinite even mean? Can a finite mind conceive of something beyond itself or is that just imagination? My mind comes up with nothing when I think of infinite, just some vague sense of space time going on and on...means noting really just a fantasy.
like Rupert said at the end of the video, infinite means "not finite" or "not limited" or "not objective". You don't need to conceive the Truth with your finite mind. Just be the Truth knowingly. The Truth is "I", mySelf, Being aware, which is transparent (no form hence no limit either in time or space = non-objective), so close and so evident that we almost all neglect it.
One question I have that I can't seem to figure out - Is the experience the "infinite being" not finite in and of itself? Since the physical body has to die at some point, doesn't that mean that even the experience of one's "infinite beingness" is finite as well? I am under the notion that our individual consciousness does not survive after physical death. I don't believe in the "soul". I would very much like to believe it, but even experiencing this formless beingness in meditation doesn't suggest to me at all that it is something that is separate from the brain and body or that it lives on after my body dies.
This was the last thing i was stuck as well. Isn't awareness product of the brain? No, awareness is awareness. Our brains are a vechicle to understand itself to this point, we are the few species that can have self-awareness, and the only species that can question even that. But there is a step back still. The brain/mind can only understand itself, then "You" get that you are not that. Every-thing goes as our body dies. There is no "soul" and consciousness (the brain activity) seizes to be. Awareness only is as it has been always, and I am that when every-thing else is stripped away.
@ well I would posit that awareness is a byproduct of consciousness. So if consciousness ceases, then logically, awareness should cease as well. There is no proof that our self-awareness or the “I am-ness” continues on after physical death. I mean just imagine before you were born. There was no “I am” or self awareness all the billions of years before your physical birth. Also, people who get severe brain damage from an accident and put into a vegetative state, appear to lack self awareness. This would suggest that consciousness and awareness are generated by the brain. So if you damage the brain, the consciousness and awareness become diminished or eradicated. There’s just no way to prove our self awareness is somehow special and can exist outside the body. It’s seems more likely that we are no more special than any other animal species on the planet. We just happened to have brains that evolution designed with a powerful prefrontal cortex to allow for self-awareness to occur within the human species.
@@sro8737 this makes me think of the activity that happens in deep sleep, for example, sleepwalking or even getting up and going to the kitchen and making a meal while you’re completely asleep and have no memory of it. It seems as though there is awareness of what’s going on. But that is only a thought after the fact that there was awareness. we just have no idea and cannot prove that there was anything aware of the experience in deep sleep, i.e. sleep walking the body isn’t aware of it. We don’t know what happened unless somebody tells us it did the next day. Just because there seems to be that experience, why is there the assumption that there was any awareness of it? And I don’t know, am I aware of my dream while I’m in it or is it just a thought later? Although there is the feeling of lucid dreaming. I don’t know. I’m really stuck here too even though I’m not really stuck lol I just don’t know really how that last leap can be made when it just can’t be confirmed.
What does peace mean if one is born? It seems impossible to have true peace in the presence of birth. The concept of relative peace is merely a matter of perspective and doesn't define anything meaningful. If you want to discuss the illusion of peace, that's a different matter entirely. Since there is no free will, true peace cannot exist. - Metaphysician
To me this a all a game of words. Awareness is finite, it has a start and an end, and it happens every day when we sleep and wake up. Similarly I could describe awareness as the knowing that I exist and that I am having all kinds of experiences
the freedom is in the recognition that life is already inherently free to appear as it does and that this excludes nothing. meaning there is no separate “ you” apart from the experience although there can be the sense of a “ you” . all is at rest because it need not be what it is not.
Rupert has videos about consciousness and deep sleep…. Just because you have no experience while you are sleeping that does not mean that there is no awareness.
I really don’t understand what Rupert means when he uses the word god. Does he mean I am the all powerful omnipotent GOD who created the universe or he means I am god the son. Someone explain please it’s causing confusion.
What if awareness, the sensation of existence, were merely a product of the mind’s imagination? Why do living beings without a brain like ours lack self-awareness? Is a plant conscious of its existence?
Man can describe everything his senses show him, his thoughts, feelings, which he thinks he is, but the self, the one who observes everything, consciousness cannot be described, because it is radical subjectivity, so the source does not It can be described, because otherwise it would be another object.
👽🙏😆666. I am that which is permanent and that which is temporary and moving. Though I am neither absolutely. That which witnesses the permanent and the temporary though itself is uncaused and unseen. ✝--->That I Am
I love "older Rupert". More and more shines through, or maybe i just recognize it more.
So Beautiful… brings one to tears of joy & recognition
Get a life...
Love the questioner’s candor and humility. So refreshing.
Love this perspective! Infinite being isn't a mystical experience, but our simplest, most intimate one - awareness itself 💡
Ok just for my edification how did you get from the fact that we have self awareness and that somehow jumps to humans having infinite being??
@@MykolasGilbertinfinite being is what makes possible the experience of being human.
Brilliant
13:00 I really enjoy the questioner’s “pleased,” smile. Very loving. 😄❤️🙏
This was amazing! A clear teaching. So wonderful 💖 ty Rupert 😊
Beautiful ❤
Fantastic honesty!
Amazing...how rupert simplified it ,is brilliant..
Thank you so much
Not really your reasoning just went down from 8 operating cylinders to 2!!
Subject Object relationships, which is duality can be described . Being, which is nondual can not be described. Perfect dialogue...
Perfect Circular Reasoning!!
@@MykolasGilbertare you trying to debunk nonduality? It’s fine if so. Does it seem like it’s all hooey?
@@oolala53 Let me turn this around on YOU!! It's a nice feel good belief, but how do you know it's true???
Rephrased: Reality can be described, unsubstantiated imaginative Fairytales cannot!!
@@MykolasGilbert "I AM" is not a belief. It's direct experience. Nothing in this dialogue was circular reasoning though it might seem that way if "I" is completely identified/merged with mind content.
Wonderful ❤
Very honest dialogue. Finite mind observes start-stop which it can describe. Questioner encouraged by Rupert and group is unable to "describe" awareness/I am because it's infinite, clap, clap. My big stuckness is what happens when physical body dies? Isn't that also another stop? I have now launched into Dream Yoga in hopes to understand how to die before I die, and bypass the Somsara wheel. I will look up Rupert's feedback on reincarnation. So much more to discover.
Rupert Spira 🙏
The very One's 'being' is undescribable when asked about it - because there are no words in any form of language to represent or express it through words or speech.
Ultimately, when pressed upon to describe it, the enquirer hesitates & utterly failed, and get stuck on it to remain in silent. Just to be in silence.
Because 'being' is infinite, beyond thinking, description, sensation, imagination, conception, perception and or space-time.
And that silence is the 'true nature state' of One's most fundamental underlying 'being' embody in body & mind as One's beingness or aliveness. 😊🙏🙇♂️🌷
I was just wondering if you know how stupid your narrative sounds out loud? If I were to ask you another question, like how tired would your arms feel if you were to fly to The Andromeda Galaxy, you mind would also go blank!! It's because these questions are nothing but parlor tricks that either can't be answered by a person or would take a considerable amount of time to contemplate and possibly might be better asked on the day you about to DIE!!!
Upadhis can be described. Being has no descriptors “attached,” to it. Therefore, silence 😊🙏
I bloody love Rupert ❤️ and the man with the question was very honest, I liked that ❤
What a precious man ❤!!!
Nice. I usually make songs about my experiences.
Oh my God!!
the most simple but direct...
Indescribable...😮😮😮😮
10/10 Thank you thank you thank you🎉❤
Infinite being is. And that's all there is to it.
@@dano7739 No, being is a manifestation not the basis of what is. There is no being, the same as there is no flower in and of itself. The careless use of translation words has confused any possible understanding of basic reality.
Rupert Spira... The simplest path to magic. Bravo master 👏 👏👏👏
The finite entity works with finite entity and the infinity can touch the infinity. The infinite in us we call the spirit. The nature of spirit is an absence of fear (every kind of limitation) and evolving of the love. We can touch to infinity only by way of love.
@@mulen-x8u Is infinity your point?
@@AKA_SimplyHuman Yes, it is. I always prefer to “Sub specie aeternitatis”.
@@mulen-x8u So then, there is no end to it?
@@AKA_SimplyHuman The end is good for bad things whereas for good things there is only endlessness.
@ I am afraid infinity is non-exclusive. Good and bad are exactly the same thing only differing in density. Enough water quenches the thirst. Too much will kill you. Duality is a degree of density or intensity. Evil is actually too much love. Too much love of a thing is the root of all evil.
I also don’t know how to answer the question of describing the experience of being.
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This simply doesn‘t make any sense.
As nobody has ever actively „not been“, we don‘t have a contrast of „being“. Without that contrast, the question is like asking what has taken place before the big bang. Life, the requirement of an awareness of being, ends. For everyone. So it‘s finite. Just the lack of ability to describe „being“ doesn‘t make anything infinite.
❤ thank you both!
I wonder. Might "non-finite" be a more readily understandable term than "in-finite"?
What does the term infinite even mean? Can a finite mind conceive of something beyond itself or is that just imagination? My mind comes up with nothing when I think of infinite, just some vague sense of space time going on and on...means noting really just a fantasy.
like Rupert said at the end of the video, infinite means "not finite" or "not limited" or "not objective". You don't need to conceive the Truth with your finite mind. Just be the Truth knowingly. The Truth is "I", mySelf, Being aware, which is transparent (no form hence no limit either in time or space = non-objective), so close and so evident that we almost all neglect it.
Brilliant!❤❤❤❤❤
11:15 sometimes it’s hard to describe something which isn’t there… how can we be sure it is there?
There's no experience of being. How do I know I'm being? Because of the sensations, this etc? Without them would there be an experience of being?
One question I have that I can't seem to figure out - Is the experience the "infinite being" not finite in and of itself? Since the physical body has to die at some point, doesn't that mean that even the experience of one's "infinite beingness" is finite as well? I am under the notion that our individual consciousness does not survive after physical death. I don't believe in the "soul". I would very much like to believe it, but even experiencing this formless beingness in meditation doesn't suggest to me at all that it is something that is separate from the brain and body or that it lives on after my body dies.
This was the last thing i was stuck as well. Isn't awareness product of the brain? No, awareness is awareness. Our brains are a vechicle to understand itself to this point, we are the few species that can have self-awareness, and the only species that can question even that. But there is a step back still.
The brain/mind can only understand itself, then "You" get that you are not that. Every-thing goes as our body dies. There is no "soul" and consciousness (the brain activity) seizes to be. Awareness only is as it has been always, and I am that when every-thing else is stripped away.
@ well I would posit that awareness is a byproduct of consciousness. So if consciousness ceases, then logically, awareness should cease as well. There is no proof that our self-awareness or the “I am-ness” continues on after physical death.
I mean just imagine before you were born. There was no “I am” or self awareness all the billions of years before your physical birth.
Also, people who get severe brain damage from an accident and put into a vegetative state, appear to lack self awareness. This would suggest that consciousness and awareness are generated by the brain. So if you damage the brain, the consciousness and awareness become diminished or eradicated.
There’s just no way to prove our self awareness is somehow special and can exist outside the body. It’s seems more likely that we are no more special than any other animal species on the planet.
We just happened to have brains that evolution designed with a powerful prefrontal cortex to allow for self-awareness to occur within the human species.
@@sro8737 this makes me think of the activity that happens in deep sleep, for example, sleepwalking or even getting up and going to the kitchen and making a meal while you’re completely asleep and have no memory of it. It seems as though there is awareness of what’s going on. But that is only a thought after the fact that there was awareness. we just have no idea and cannot prove that there was anything aware of the experience in deep sleep, i.e. sleep walking the body isn’t aware of it. We don’t know what happened unless somebody tells us it did the next day. Just because there seems to be that experience, why is there the assumption that there was any awareness of it? And I don’t know, am I aware of my dream while I’m in it or is it just a thought later? Although there is the feeling of lucid dreaming. I don’t know. I’m really stuck here too even though I’m not really stuck lol I just don’t know really how that last leap can be made when it just can’t be confirmed.
The ordinary IS...extraordinary and wonderfilled ❤
❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏.Thank you
So what is the point? Finite or infinite!!
Are we wasting time? Being or not what is the point!?
The point is to discover That which has no point and rest in its peace.
@youssefalaoui4286 "In living, there is no peace, and with peace, there would be no living". Metaphysician
@@AAA9549-w7w If there was no peace in life you would not know the meaning of that word (peace).
What does peace mean if one is born? It seems impossible to have true peace in the presence of birth. The concept of relative peace is merely a matter of perspective and doesn't define anything meaningful. If you want to discuss the illusion of peace, that's a different matter entirely. Since there is no free will, true peace cannot exist.
- Metaphysician
@@AAA9549-w7w maybe there’s peace in embracing the trap?
To me this a all a game of words. Awareness is finite, it has a start and an end, and it happens every day when we sleep and wake up. Similarly I could describe awareness as the knowing that I exist and that I am having all kinds of experiences
the freedom is in the recognition that life is already inherently free to appear as it does and that this excludes nothing. meaning there is no separate “ you” apart from the experience although there can be the sense of a “ you” . all is at rest because it need not be what it is not.
If your awareness ceases to be when you go to sleep, how is it possible that you are aware of your dreams?
Sleep appears in awareness.
Rupert has videos about consciousness and deep sleep…. Just because you have no experience while you are sleeping that does not mean that there is no awareness.
I really don’t understand what Rupert means when he uses the word god. Does he mean I am the all powerful omnipotent GOD who created the universe or he means I am god the son. Someone explain please it’s causing confusion.
What if awareness,
the sensation of existence, were merely a product of the mind’s imagination? Why do living beings without a brain like ours lack self-awareness? Is a plant conscious of its existence?
Man can describe everything his senses show him, his thoughts, feelings, which he thinks he is, but the self, the one who observes everything, consciousness cannot be described, because it is radical subjectivity, so the source does not It can be described, because otherwise it would be another object.
It is spiritual because God is Spirit. Spirit is non- objective
There is no "I" exist.. Everything is happening by cause and effect...
Yip, everything is effortlessly just happening
Just life. Just is.
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Wish you would come around EU/Hungary as well sometime. Only Italy is far and limited. :(
If this is not only for rich folks..
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Words are of space and time, Beingness is not!!
👽🙏😆666. I am that which is permanent and that which is temporary and moving. Though I am neither absolutely. That which witnesses the permanent and the temporary though itself is uncaused and unseen. ✝--->That I Am
@@iishakanii Please take a breath and simply be.
@@AKA_SimplyHuman 😆😆🙂🙂🙏🙏
🙏🤍💛🧡❤️🩷💜💙🩵💚🤎🩶
Yet another guru selling esoteric popcorn.
So you can be done with him, right? Time to move on to something true. Perfectly fair. Be well.
How people delude eachtother and themselves ! Shame on you !
Feel better knowing the real truth?
Awesome ❤
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