Bernado Kastrup PhD- Computer Science, PhD in philosophical idealism 🙏 Rupert Spira - Spiritual Guide & Coach 🙏 The "diamond" which Bernado alluded as the "impersonal" is our eternal "True (Self) Nature" as opposed to the "personal" which is our impermanent egoic self; It is within each of us. It is formless, invisible, inconceivable, imperceptible, neither comes nor goes; It neither appears nor disappears, neither stays nor leaves, neither increases nor decreases. Indestructible, and it is beyond Causation or Causality; It is self existing sovereign, unborn and it never dies. It knows and knows not, thus it is All-knowing; It is everywhere & yet nowhere. It is the (Universal) "force" or "energy" that pervades the entire Universe or Creation. 😊🙏🙇♂️🌷
On one hand, we are taught that the ego is essentially fiction. On the other hand, Bernard seems to imply that the ego is indeed real and very much needed to watch over and direct the Force of nature that is in us and through us That could wreak havoc upon the world and us if we don’t direct it. Is this a paradox masquerading as a contradiction, or contradiction masquerading as a paradox?
my understanding is that the ego as a self contained essence that is seperate and independent from the rest of reality is a fiction - but as an appearance with apparent causal power within the whole, is real.
Were there really two diamonds or just two facets of the one diamond considering one refracted beam generated as it played and felt that that form can be reshaped to further the collective form projected by the diamond.
Thank you very much to both of you. Very, very interesting. I would only suggest the host to speak more clearly and slowlier, if possible, perhaps it's because of his beard but his words are often hard to comprehend
Truly awesome. I truly believe mine are (or being, pushed, prodded, poked by Heyokas. Truly amazing, truly insane life, don't wish it on anyone and , wow I know there their and they know I know. We do daily battles and hug it out because they remind me of how deep it isn't when I'm too caught up into (me) in the most out of this world chance kind of way.
The Force that guides people's live is their memory and their dependance on it . The teaching and programming by artificial Gurus are the biggest problem , Humans have become so confused by trying to understand and figure out all the b s , that they waste their lives , not one single person has ever returned back to G.O.D. because of your "wisdom" . Just a headful of info to temperarally forget their pain and loneliness...imo ❤
Rupert really believes he is a sage....when in reality he is just a TH-cam new age nondual commentator, (there is a pandemic of these characters) one could say likened to a motivational speaker, which what is said has no shelf life as it's mental constructs like describing a tree can never be the tree. Silence is the best teacher when one finally gets off the seekers treadmill and puts ones toys aside.....
I agree. Whatever Rupert is be that genuine, self deluded or a fake, to me his mannerisms give off negative vibes and as a 'spiritual guru' is a tad too questionable. People judge you on the friends you chose to associate with so this IMO is a big red flag against Bernardo. Could it be that many of these online gurus lack humility and combine their visions with a potential lucrative income? Most of the world is led by inappropriate types so I see no reason this does not apply to the spiritual sector. If such gurus were indeed sincere in their spiritual proclamations would we not expect attempts to form political movements with a more virtuous and radical set of moral, economic and social principles. Instead they write their books, form their foundations, run their courses. All well and good but very short of that which IMO should be expected. The world is near being destroyed by our abuse yet what do these people do, maybe I am unfair and expect too much. But then again how should we judge those proclaiming spiritual values if not by their actions.
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It's always so truly enlightening when these two beautiful souls converse!
Couldn't agree more!
Reminds me of those old J K and David Bohm Dialogues 😂.
Bernado Kastrup PhD- Computer Science, PhD in philosophical idealism 🙏
Rupert Spira - Spiritual Guide & Coach 🙏
The "diamond" which Bernado alluded as the "impersonal" is our eternal "True (Self) Nature" as opposed to the "personal" which is our impermanent egoic self;
It is within each of us. It is formless, invisible, inconceivable, imperceptible, neither comes nor goes;
It neither appears nor disappears, neither stays nor leaves, neither increases nor decreases. Indestructible, and it is beyond Causation or Causality;
It is self existing sovereign, unborn and it never dies. It knows and knows not, thus it is All-knowing;
It is everywhere & yet nowhere. It is the (Universal) "force" or "energy" that pervades the entire Universe or Creation. 😊🙏🙇♂️🌷
They're saying Daimon, although I can understand why people think it's diamond.
I treasure Rupert's humility and "uncontainable" offering... an impersonal force, that all i could do is say yes to it. And, I just surrendered to it.
beautifully put
Could it be possible to identify more with your "Diamond", to some degree feeling personalized? Seems others have attained similar.
Nab the mind. It's the culprit.
There must be a subject to know good and evil, that subject is the ego. The source of it is God. ~Ramana
Good and evil is split by the mind.
Love
On one hand, we are taught that the ego is essentially fiction. On the other hand, Bernard seems to imply that the ego is indeed real and very much needed to watch over and direct the Force of nature that is in us and through us That could wreak havoc upon the world and us if we don’t direct it. Is this a paradox masquerading as a contradiction, or contradiction masquerading as a paradox?
my understanding is that the ego as a self contained essence that is seperate and independent from the rest of reality is a fiction - but as an appearance with apparent causal power within the whole, is real.
Were there really two diamonds or just two facets of the one diamond considering one refracted beam generated as it played and felt that that form can be reshaped to further the collective form projected by the diamond.
Thank you very much to both of you. Very, very interesting. I would only suggest the host to speak more clearly and slowlier, if possible, perhaps it's because of his beard but his words are often hard to comprehend
Thanks for the reminder. I get that feedback a lot 🤦
Whenever I hear Bernardo Kastrup talking about his daimon I always think he's just being modest.
I am confused, BK: what do you mean by ego? I am with Rupert, that it does not actually exist but in our conditioning. Our beingness is not that...
Truly awesome. I truly believe mine are (or being, pushed, prodded, poked by Heyokas. Truly amazing, truly insane life, don't wish it on anyone and , wow I know there their and they know I know. We do daily battles and hug it out because they remind me of how deep it isn't when I'm too caught up into (me) in the most out of this world chance kind of way.
Nature demands philosophy?
interesting thought!
The Force that guides people's live is their memory and their dependance on it . The teaching and programming by artificial Gurus are the biggest problem , Humans have become so confused by trying to understand and figure out all the b s , that they waste their lives , not one single person has ever returned back to G.O.D. because of your "wisdom" .
Just a headful of info to temperarally forget their pain and loneliness...imo ❤
Rupert really believes he is a sage....when in reality he is just a TH-cam new age nondual commentator, (there is a pandemic of these characters) one could say likened to a motivational speaker, which what is said has no shelf life as it's mental constructs like describing a tree can never be the tree. Silence is the best teacher when one finally gets off the seekers treadmill and puts ones toys aside.....
Rupert teaches this too, maybe watch some more vids before you dish out a final judgement.
here you go - th-cam.com/video/_VUKfrA9oLQ/w-d-xo.html
I agree. Whatever Rupert is be that genuine, self deluded or a fake, to me his mannerisms give off negative vibes and as a 'spiritual guru' is a tad too questionable. People judge you on the friends you chose to associate with so this IMO is a big red flag against Bernardo. Could it be that many of these online gurus lack humility and combine their visions with a potential lucrative income? Most of the world is led by inappropriate types so I see no reason this does not apply to the spiritual sector. If such gurus were indeed sincere in their spiritual proclamations would we not expect attempts to form political movements with a more virtuous and radical set of moral, economic and social principles. Instead they write their books, form their foundations, run their courses. All well and good but very short of that which IMO should be expected. The world is near being destroyed by our abuse yet what do these people do, maybe I am unfair and expect too much. But then again how should we judge those proclaiming spiritual values if not by their actions.
He’s just part of ‘’nature’s dance’’, as all of ‘’us’’ ☯️☮️
I'm so happy someone has found the One True Way.
The chosen, really?