John MceIRoy, doesn’t speak for the membership. He speaks for the corporations. Enjoy your nice private pool( as seen in the background in the video) and your gated community. The workers want and Will get their fair share of the profits.
No, the union thug members will get laid off with unemployment and NO benefits, since ordinary people can't afford the higher prices and lower quality that union-made cars represent. Your products are ALREADY too overpriced, and we're ALREADY not buying them. So what do you have to bargain with? Your boss could give a shyte about you. Working or not, he'll expect your tax free dues for HIS backyard swimming pool...as well as prepaid vacation club in Florida...that you conveniently ignore.
Mcelroy should spend a couple of days on the line, or in a hot / loud stamping plant. Young people give their best years to the company and sacrifice their health. Your fingers will bleed and you're back ache. Is it too much to ask to keep up with inflation, or have a viable pension?
Union Boomers sold you out and created the Tier system in 2007-2008. It happened in my local parks department too, where I worked as a Perma-Temp for 3+ years. SEIU voted to screw future hires too, so that the older employees wouldn't have to take a pay cut.
An analyst is supposed to be impartial. John Mcelroy has lost all crediblilty for making this statement. He has no right what to tell the UAW how to run their shop. It's the UAW decision and theirs alone to back whatever their stand their membership takes.
Until the 2019 contract, UAW workers didn’t get a raise for 20 years. Employees don't even make $20 an hour until they've worked for 3 years. Their first year of work, they get zero vacation/personal days. People are clueless how much the UAW has given up the previous two decades. The people complaining about the UAW getting a fair contract might as well complain about the salaries of nurses, firefighters, and teachers.
@kevinulises9783 or negotiate for better wages and benefits as a group and not just accept the lowest offer the auto industry attempts to fleece upon us.
@@michaelwankewycz6209 that is basically extortion, just go. Go start your own company if you are that skilled, but since most union members aren’t they rather stay and extort their way into a higher wage.
@kevinulises9783 When I've interviewed for jobs, at a certain point there is a negotiation between the company and me as to salary, 401K options, vacation days, etc. Within a union structure, people pay union dues and a group of representatives negotiate a contract for a collective group of workers. I'm guessing you are against collective bargaining. However, I see it as a negotiation tactic that treats the workers equally. Although some bad workers will take advantage of this system, the majority of workers are hard working and just want a fair system. This system is not perfect, but advocating for merely taking whatever the company decides is fair without allowing me to negotiate in any fashion is un-American. Are you a communist?
@@michaelwankewycz6209 Why would a communist argue for accepting terrible compensation from a capitalist? By the way, ruthless xploitation and selfish greed have traditionally been a lot more American than "Collective" bargaining, which is by definition anti-individualist and such efforts were often prosecuted as conspiracies.
Don’t listen to this guy. He doesn’t know squat. All the big 3 have been making record breaking profits for years. And he says Shawn is making the companies look bad.. think about that. The companies are doing this stuff not him. They are making their selves look bad. Give the workers what they deserve.
John MceIRoy could care less about auto workers or job security , he just told the whole world what kind of shameful person he is and would kick a dog while it was down.
Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares had total compensation of $24.8 million (23.5 million euros) in 2022, GM CEO Mary Barra's 2022 compensation: $28,979,570, Ford CEO Jim Farley's 2022 compensation falls slightly to $20.9 million. These CEOs make close to 300 times what a worker makes. Lastest reports Ford profit $25.5B, GM profit $22.5B, Sellantis $12B. The workers deserve a decent contract despite Mr.Mcelroys opinion.
That’s really beside the point. Yes many CEO’s make ridiculous amounts but it doesn’t mean workers should get things that will hurt the company in the long run and drive up prices for the American consumer.
@Bigturd1887 The CEOs of Toyota and Honda make about 10% of what the CEOs of the big 3 make, but their American workers earn roughly what their UAW counterparts earn.
@@joedillard5096Except, it wouldn't hurt the companies. I work for a large corporation that made almost $2 billion in net profit. If they increased every employee's salary by 10k, they would still net about 1.5 billion. That would bring my hourly wage to about 25$ an hour which is what most of my coworkers want. The fact of the matter is, they wouldn't need to increase all wages though. The office workers at my shop make $60,000-$100,000. So, theoretically if they only increased hourly factory workers wages (a $6 per hour increase), it would still be below degree holding office workers, and they would still have $1.6-$1.7 billion in net profit. This is without increasing their prices for their products. So, why is it the worker's fault that corporations are just being greedy?
@@joedillard5096 When these companies, JUST THIS YEAR, have spent over a billion dollars on stock buybacks and you're concern trolling over higher worker wages I know you aren't a serious person or you don't know what you're talking about.
I'm just adding perspective and passing along facts that can be found on line and in old contract books. My pay per hour as skilled trades in 2006 was at $34 per hour. Adjusted for inflation that would be $52 per hour today. At my current rate of $37 per hour I have taken a 30% pay cut. In 2006 GM CEO Rick Wagoner was paid $2.2M, adjusted for inflation that is $3.4M. Mary Barra makes $29M. 8.5 times more than the amount adjusted for inflation. My hourly pay would be $600 per hour if it was adjusted at the same rate as Barra's.
It costs a big 3 company 64$ per hour just to employ you. You forgot to mention that. So they basically pay 128k in annual labor costs then give u 37$ per hour and a 3% medical cost while the rest of us pay 28% and don't make 37$ per hour. Please justify the huge cost that labor is worth? I won't pay as much as your asking for you to make a car when there's so many less costly options! Pretty soon it'll be all automated anyway, then strikes that affect the whole country won't happen. Also, check out all the UAW heads who went to prison for misconduct just in the last few years. That's who you're supporting over an employer who clearly invests heavily in you guys? Give me a break
@@juliahenderson5418 you obviously are spouting company info. What factory person wouldn't take $65 an hour and pay for their own benefits? They add in vacation days, holidays, and benefits that are absorbed in the company (aka self insured) in that number. However, when you put it in a fictitious hourly wage you can try to make people making 70k seem ridiculous, but it is deceptive. What they don't tell you about is that people are being forced 6 to 7 days a week. Finally, for all those saying "find another job" You begrudge us for not settling for low pay because those pencil pushers, who make millions told you we make to much? Seriously? I thought it was whatever the market will bear? Well listen, the market (people who make the products they want to sell) will no longer bear their burden for these wages. That is called a "strike".
@@cjw8497 I was in those plants and I know what I saw. Everywhere you went you had guys sleeping, playing cards, goofing off, going home early having their buddies punch them out, taking four-hour shits and getting drunk in the parking lot. It's because of those Jokers why the big three is building plants in Mexico and other places. They're tired of unions forcing companies to pay exorbitant wages to lazy ignorant people who don't care about what they put together. Now they want pensions back? Good luck with that, those days are long gone and the UAW has no one to blame but themselves.
@@jacobstienecker of course not! Nevertheless, you realize he is not wrong right? I am not a plant worker nor do I work for the automakers, as an outsider, I think I would agree that Fain’s demands are unreasonable
McCoroy people know what Fain means when he says things like this he’s talking about the Greed of CEO’s of company it’s about the automakers get there fair share SOLIDARITY
If it's damaging the industry pay the workers what they deserve to be paid and stop the hemorrhaging before you bleed out. We understand the middle class isn't welcome but we don't agree with that so we will gladly re-educate you.
some fearmongering BS... it's the workers against the bosses, and it always has been. When workers stand together and organize we win! When we work with the bosses because "we are a family," the bosses just line their pockets and we lose.
Very little sympathy for unionized workers. They are the ones who agreed to the wage tiers, they could have spread the pain but chose not to. Now they blame the companies for it. GM and Chrysler would not be around if it weren't for corporate welfare bailouts years ago. And all of these car manufacturers exist on the continued grift of massive subsidies. None of them actually stand on their own two feet. And I'm sick of subsidizing them and their workers who seem to think the world owes them a great living.
Your mindset is the complete opposite of what it should be. Blame starts at the top of an organization, not the bottom. Are the workers innocent? I’ve worked in auto plants and the answer is definitely not. But it all comes back to poor management. Bad management at the Big 3 is legendary.
@@justamaninTN As I said, I'm sick of constantly subsidizing auto companies . None of them stand on their own two feet. In Canada where I live, the CAW's pension plan was bailed out by the taxpayer along with the companies themselves. The federal and Ontario government have recently made public they are giving - it turns out (after they tried to low ball the numbers) around 25 BILLION dollars to Volkwagen and Stellantis I think for new battery plants. Is there any point at which these monkeys run a business using their own money? I don't want to be bailing these incompetent and uncompetitive monkeys or their over paid ( and blantantly corrupt unions) workers out yet again after the next crisis. If the auto industry can't compete, it's time to let it die. I do not owe someone bolting cars together a subsidized wage of 150k a year and a taxpayer supported pension. This is nothing short of obscene. And now Biden stands on a picket line, like the senile dope he is, supporting bolshevik unions. No president has ever done that. And now that mutt Trump is sticking his nose in it saying he wants to help the working class. Are Americans really that stupid?
Mcelroy is F.O.S. Decades of concessionary bargaining has done nothing to bolster the quality of UAW built vehicles due to a demoralized workforce with high turnover rates at $16.00/hour entry level pay. Workers cannot even afford to buy what they build. Big Three auto jobs used to be the gold standard of blue collar factory jobs now they’re crap jobs. The companies who exploit their workforce are the main reason nobody wants to work there NOW. UAW can’t organize the foreign owned plants because (just like the failed campaign at Nissan in Mississippi a few years ago), the companies just use the UAW’s rotten contracts against them, they have nothing to offer but lower wages as Honda, Toyota, etc. start workers out at far higher wages. I’m cautiously optimistic about Shawn Fain, because he’s trying to make membership in the UAW mean something again, so they can not only better the lives of current members, but be able to actually make workers want to join the UAW again. Concessions will not grow the UAW, it’s time to take a stand.
My question would be if foreign automakers are building cars here in America what is stopping the UAW or any unions for that matter from forming in these automotive companies building cars here in America wether foreign-owned or not. That argument doesn't make any sense to me when John McElroy says woe foreign automakers are having more than 50% of the market while building those cars here so if they're being built here there's nothing that stops those your workers from becoming unionized.
Because their workers don’t want unions and the constant dissatisfaction they bring. Would you want to pay 5% to a union with a long history of corruption?
@@davetx9020 If it meant that I got better wages, better health insurance, and more vacation days? Yeah 5% is a small price to pay, corruption or not. Especially when, on average, unionized workers make 18% more than non-union workers. Math works out to me. But go off I guess.
IDK, I grew up in a Teamsters household (my parents had mixed feelings about their membership). We're sorta looking at a situation (like in the 80's) where union labor costs held US car companies back from innovating (see also Malaise Era), and allowed competition to flourish. I don't want to drive a car knowing it's subsidized by the government through corporate handouts. You can likely take all the gross executive compensation and spread it across the workforce, and it might mean few thousand dollars more in their pocket at the end of the year (which is what the companies are offering them anyway). Also there's a deep misunderstanding of how executive compensation works - just because you get stock options, doesn't mean they'll be worth anything when they are fully vested. Union jobs aren't meant to provide workers with means to build private pools and buy helicopters - they're meant to provide a decent living based on the area where the facility is located - creating job stability and supporting the local economy. Their current hourly pay (for new workers) seems low - however hourly pay isn't everything. That usually comes with healthcare (which for a family of four can be thousands a month), education subsidies (if you want to move out of an assembly line job), retirement pension savings which can allow some workers to start collecting at 42! (at a highly reduced percentage of course) and profit sharing bonuses. If you lock companies into paying WAY above local labor rates - you ensure the company will try to automate your job, move it overseas (or to Mexico), OR just reduce the number of employees to compensate and let competitors take a larger percentage of the market.
Magna is the same way. Skilled labor workers make a 1.00 more than a entry level person. Then give you a 5 cent cost of living. These big auto markers make billions and the workers make scraps.
Fact is management talks family, even has commercial touting Great People HOWEVER their ACTIONS convey a much different opinion. Family does not treat family the way the line worker is treated. We made many concesss during GM Bankruptcy in order to help the company survive, and the company now fights us in our efforts to regain those concessions. That's the equivalent of the middle finger. We don't wish to damage the company or it's market share so why does the company consistently seek to materially damage our way of life?
Automobile manufacturers are driven by demand. If everyone wants electric they’ll make electric. But most consumers don’t care what powers their vehicle, they care about the brand. People who go on cruises couldn’t care less about if the ship is electric or steam or gas. That’s not the point. And the point of a vehicle isn’t to get you from point a to point b, it’s to make a statement about your status and signal to others what you like. Yardley Davidson could make an electric bike but it wouldn’t do them any good to convert all their bikes. Teslas batteries where never about the mechanics of electric it was about the status of owning a Tesla. For ford or anyone else to do electric without significant demand from their target audience or any reason to believe most people want electric isn’t going to work out financially.
01:41 what about the chance that after you fix these shanty wages you’ve been paying, Americans will feel proud and empowered to purchase American vehicles and just may shun these foreign companies who aren’t paying their workers as well as “you guys” will be paying them. People used to give others crap for purchasing some foreign car and not supporting their American brothers and sisters.
Its one sided as always. GM employees want a ridiculous pay increase....what about the contractors and smaller companies that support GM. there is no strike fund for us, we dont get the raises, and we are laid off and screwed out of work and pay....fain is a nutjob tryin to make a name for himself...hell, they might as well ask for golf club memberships and the keys to the city, right along with the double digit pay increase
“Look here, you rich people: Weep and groan with anguish because of all the terrible troubles ahead of you. 2 Your wealth is rotting away, and your fine clothes are moth-eaten rags. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded. The very wealth you were counting on will eat away your flesh like fire. This corroded treasure you have hoarded will testify against you on the day of judgment. 4 For listen! Hear the cries of the field workers whom you have cheated of their pay. The cries of those who harvest your fields have reached the ears of the Lord of Heaven’s Armies. 5 You have spent your years on earth in luxury, satisfying your every desire. You have fattened yourselves for the day of slaughter. 6 You have condemned and killed innocent people, who do not resist you.” -JAMES 5 NLT
I’m sorry but I think the UAW has lost their minds. If the whole membership is in agreement with what they’re saying they want then I don’t really care if they all lose their jobs. The demands are really just too much. We own a mom and pop business and we are not getting that kind of increase. If they think it can go back to like it was thirty years ago, well I don’t see it. Vehicles are already getting priced out of range of many families.
It's not labors fault that vehicles prices continue to climb, their wages are locked in for the duration of their contract. It's even been said that the union contract is generally paid off within 2 months of profit. Can't even blame vendors because they contract the lowest bidders for parts. And why shouldn't workers get back at some of the consessions they were forced 10 yrs ago to help their company's in their financial struggles? I can go on and on, but if you're not willing to see the bigger picture I'm not wasting my time
UAW you just handed the car industry to the Chinese and Japanese, in Japan if a company is not making the profits the top CEO's and corporate all take a huge pay cut.
Fourteen years ago, when the big three automakers were struggling to stay afloat, the American people stepped in to support them. So did the auto workers in the UAW who sacrificed pay and benefits to help get the companies back on their feet. Now that our carmakers are enjoying robust profits, it’s time to do right by those same workers so the industry can emerge more united and competitive than ever.
stop saying you sacrificed pay and benefits. Tax payers did save the company, but you will have no job if the automaker went down end of story. you were a bigger burden and just decide to become a smaller burden lol you did not save the company but the taxpayer did, otherwise you have no job
John MceIRoy, doesn’t speak for the membership. He speaks for the corporations.
Enjoy your nice private pool( as seen in the background in the video) and your gated community.
The workers want and Will get their fair share of the profits.
Word. 👍👏
My family will stand with the UAW
No, the union thug members will get laid off with unemployment and NO benefits, since ordinary people can't afford the higher prices and lower quality that union-made cars represent. Your products are ALREADY too overpriced, and we're ALREADY not buying them.
So what do you have to bargain with?
Your boss could give a shyte about you. Working or not, he'll expect your tax free dues for HIS backyard swimming pool...as well as prepaid vacation club in Florida...that you conveniently ignore.
Amen 🙏🏼
Fain is selling a lie to his members, he shouldn’t make promises he can’t deliver.
workers, get dat money. But the public don't want a fair product. WE want a great product. Let's go!
Been screwing the workers for years now.
Mcelroy should spend a couple of days on the line, or in a hot / loud stamping plant. Young people give their best years to the company and sacrifice their health. Your fingers will bleed and you're back ache. Is it too much to ask to keep up with inflation, or have a viable pension?
Union Boomers sold you out and created the Tier system in 2007-2008.
It happened in my local parks department too, where I worked as a Perma-Temp for 3+ years. SEIU voted to screw future hires too, so that the older employees wouldn't have to take a pay cut.
@@hyphydan Rotten bastards.
Have McElroy come to a plant and see the morale
An analyst is supposed to be impartial.
John Mcelroy has lost all crediblilty for making this statement.
He has no right what to tell the UAW how to run their shop.
It's the UAW decision and theirs alone to back whatever their stand their membership takes.
Preach. 👍👏🔥🔥
Until the 2019 contract, UAW workers didn’t get a raise for 20 years. Employees don't even make $20 an hour until they've worked for 3 years. Their first year of work, they get zero vacation/personal days. People are clueless how much the UAW has given up the previous two decades. The people complaining about the UAW getting a fair contract might as well complain about the salaries of nurses, firefighters, and teachers.
Just leave and work somewhere else, if you fell you are mistreated and not properly compensated just quit.
@kevinulises9783 or negotiate for better wages and benefits as a group and not just accept the lowest offer the auto industry attempts to fleece upon us.
@@michaelwankewycz6209 that is basically extortion, just go. Go start your own company if you are that skilled, but since most union members aren’t they rather stay and extort their way into a higher wage.
@kevinulises9783 When I've interviewed for jobs, at a certain point there is a negotiation between the company and me as to salary, 401K options, vacation days, etc. Within a union structure, people pay union dues and a group of representatives negotiate a contract for a collective group of workers.
I'm guessing you are against collective bargaining. However, I see it as a negotiation tactic that treats the workers equally. Although some bad workers will take advantage of this system, the majority of workers are hard working and just want a fair system. This system is not perfect, but advocating for merely taking whatever the company decides is fair without allowing me to negotiate in any fashion is un-American. Are you a communist?
@@michaelwankewycz6209 Why would a communist argue for accepting terrible compensation from a capitalist? By the way, ruthless xploitation and selfish greed have traditionally been a lot more American than "Collective" bargaining, which is by definition anti-individualist and such efforts were often prosecuted as conspiracies.
Don’t listen to this guy. He doesn’t know squat. All the big 3 have been making record breaking profits for years. And he says Shawn is making the companies look bad.. think about that. The companies are doing this stuff not him. They are making their selves look bad. Give the workers what they deserve.
John can kick rocks... he doesn't give a dam about the UAW workers
So who cares about uaw
@bayphan9777 Obviously, you do, you are watching the story on it. 😂😂😂
UAW doesn't care about UAW workers.
Remind us why there are 2/3 Tiers of employees?
John MceIRoy could care less about auto workers or job security , he just told the whole world what kind of shameful person he is and would kick a dog while it was down.
Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares had total compensation of $24.8 million (23.5 million euros) in 2022, GM CEO Mary Barra's 2022 compensation: $28,979,570, Ford CEO Jim Farley's 2022 compensation falls slightly to $20.9 million. These CEOs make close to 300 times what a worker makes. Lastest reports Ford profit $25.5B, GM profit $22.5B, Sellantis $12B. The workers deserve a decent contract despite Mr.Mcelroys opinion.
That’s really beside the point. Yes many CEO’s make ridiculous amounts but it doesn’t mean workers should get things that will hurt the company in the long run and drive up prices for the American consumer.
It makes sense a CEO has a higher salary than a high school graduate who assembles vehicles and can’t get fired
@Bigturd1887 The CEOs of Toyota and Honda make about 10% of what the CEOs of the big 3 make, but their American workers earn roughly what their UAW counterparts earn.
@@joedillard5096Except, it wouldn't hurt the companies. I work for a large corporation that made almost $2 billion in net profit. If they increased every employee's salary by 10k, they would still net about 1.5 billion. That would bring my hourly wage to about 25$ an hour which is what most of my coworkers want. The fact of the matter is, they wouldn't need to increase all wages though. The office workers at my shop make $60,000-$100,000. So, theoretically if they only increased hourly factory workers wages (a $6 per hour increase), it would still be below degree holding office workers, and they would still have $1.6-$1.7 billion in net profit. This is without increasing their prices for their products. So, why is it the worker's fault that corporations are just being greedy?
@@joedillard5096 When these companies, JUST THIS YEAR, have spent over a billion dollars on stock buybacks and you're concern trolling over higher worker wages I know you aren't a serious person or you don't know what you're talking about.
What a little slime ball
I'm just adding perspective and passing along facts that can be found on line and in old contract books.
My pay per hour as skilled trades in 2006 was at $34 per hour. Adjusted for inflation that would be $52 per hour today. At my current rate of $37 per hour I have taken a 30% pay cut.
In 2006 GM CEO Rick Wagoner was paid $2.2M, adjusted for inflation that is $3.4M.
Mary Barra makes $29M. 8.5 times more than the amount adjusted for inflation.
My hourly pay would be $600 per hour if it was adjusted at the same rate as Barra's.
I would love to make $37 per hour
It costs a big 3 company 64$ per hour just to employ you. You forgot to mention that. So they basically pay 128k in annual labor costs then give u 37$ per hour and a 3% medical cost while the rest of us pay 28% and don't make 37$ per hour. Please justify the huge cost that labor is worth? I won't pay as much as your asking for you to make a car when there's so many less costly options! Pretty soon it'll be all automated anyway, then strikes that affect the whole country won't happen. Also, check out all the UAW heads who went to prison for misconduct just in the last few years. That's who you're supporting over an employer who clearly invests heavily in you guys? Give me a break
@@juliahenderson5418 you obviously are spouting company info.
What factory person wouldn't take $65 an hour and pay for their own benefits?
They add in vacation days, holidays, and benefits that are absorbed in the company (aka self insured) in that number.
However, when you put it in a fictitious hourly wage you can try to make people making 70k seem ridiculous, but it is deceptive.
What they don't tell you about is that people are being forced 6 to 7 days a week.
Finally, for all those saying
"find another job"
You begrudge us for not settling for low pay because those pencil pushers, who make millions told you we make to much? Seriously?
I thought it was whatever the market will bear? Well listen, the market (people who make the products they want to sell) will no longer bear their burden for these wages.
That is called a "strike".
She's obscenely overpaid. You are just overpaid.
why don't you apply to be the ceo of the company though? and take a pay cut once you are in the position?
Want to bet he gets money from the automakers?
Obviously, Mr. Mcelroy got PAID to say that.
2:30 amen, Sir!! 👍👏🙏🙏
In solidarity with ALL Workers ❤
Why would you choose to interview this fear monger? Stand strong UAW membership
UAW always stood for unions against work
@@Michael-fl1tmif you worked in one of the plants you wouldnt be saying that bs right now
@@cjw8497 I was in those plants and I know what I saw. Everywhere you went you had guys sleeping, playing cards, goofing off, going home early having their buddies punch them out, taking four-hour shits and getting drunk in the parking lot. It's because of those Jokers why the big three is building plants in Mexico and other places. They're tired of unions forcing companies to pay exorbitant wages to lazy ignorant people who don't care about what they put together. Now they want pensions back? Good luck with that, those days are long gone and the UAW has no one to blame but themselves.
Because they're on the side of the Big 3, unfortunately...
Because corporate media is run by ppl like this over rich weasel
That “expert” is a joke
are you a UAW member?
@@littlebigzelda I’m a hard working American man.
@@jacobstienecker you are not answering the question, are you UAW member?
@@littlebigzelda of course I am. Not gonna apologize for working for a living
@@jacobstienecker of course not! Nevertheless, you realize he is not wrong right? I am not a plant worker nor do I work for the automakers, as an outsider, I think I would agree that Fain’s demands are unreasonable
McCoroy people know what Fain means when he says things like this he’s talking about the Greed of CEO’s of company it’s about the automakers get there fair share SOLIDARITY
Thank you Mr fain you are what the uaw needs Rt now ! Balls
Pay Us
This is laughable as he speaks from his million dollar home and acre of property. LOL!
I have a Tesla and a Jeep. Time to replace the Jeep. Was looking at a GM product but I think I’ll go with Toyota instead. Screw that greedy jerk
Shame on you, both McElroy and this clearly biased journalist.
This dude is the MOST used car salesman type LOLOL
He looks Irish
If it's damaging the industry pay the workers what they deserve to be paid and stop the hemorrhaging before you bleed out. We understand the middle class isn't welcome but we don't agree with that so we will gladly re-educate you.
If they're clutching their pearls this hard, Fain's doing something right.
Hell yeah!
We support Fain a 100 percent!! Spoken like a company man mcelroy. Stay in your lane
This guy is a company puppet who believes in greed
It's not gonna hurt detroit for the main local manufacturing jobs to be well paying.
some fearmongering BS... it's the workers against the bosses, and it always has been. When workers stand together and organize we win! When we work with the bosses because "we are a family," the bosses just line their pockets and we lose.
Cry more, McElroy
It’s because foreign vehicles are quality. The crap the big 3 make are garbage.
I’m for the UAW but they need to make reliable fuel efficient vehicles
Very little sympathy for unionized workers.
They are the ones who agreed to the wage tiers, they could have spread the pain but chose not to. Now they blame the companies for it.
GM and Chrysler would not be around if it weren't for corporate welfare bailouts years ago. And all of these car manufacturers exist on the continued grift of massive subsidies. None of them actually stand on their own two feet. And I'm sick of subsidizing them and their workers who seem to think the world owes them a great living.
They took those conditions to help the big 3 get back on their feet. Now they're making record profits. It's time to repay the favor.
Your mindset is the complete opposite of what it should be. Blame starts at the top of an organization, not the bottom. Are the workers innocent? I’ve worked in auto plants and the answer is definitely not. But it all comes back to poor management. Bad management at the Big 3 is legendary.
@@justamaninTN As I said, I'm sick of constantly subsidizing auto companies . None of them stand on their own two feet. In Canada where I live, the CAW's pension plan was bailed out by the taxpayer along with the companies themselves. The federal and Ontario government have recently made public they are giving - it turns out (after they tried to low ball the numbers) around 25 BILLION dollars to Volkwagen and Stellantis I think for new battery plants. Is there any point at which these monkeys run a business using their own money? I don't want to be bailing these incompetent and uncompetitive monkeys or their over paid ( and blantantly corrupt unions) workers out yet again after the next crisis. If the auto industry can't compete, it's time to let it die. I do not owe someone bolting cars together a subsidized wage of 150k a year and a taxpayer supported pension. This is nothing short of obscene. And now Biden stands on a picket line, like the senile dope he is, supporting bolshevik unions. No president has ever done that. And now that mutt Trump is sticking his nose in it saying he wants to help the working class. Are Americans really that stupid?
Ahhhh, McElRoy got his feelings hurt. Such it up buttercup! Go get them Mr. Fain 😊
How dare a union leader stands up for his members.
Shawn spoke nothing but facts
I work at Ford Lakeland HVC. Fain hit the nail on the head.
McElroy is such a tool
Mcelroy is F.O.S. Decades of concessionary bargaining has done nothing to bolster the quality of UAW built vehicles due to a demoralized workforce with high turnover rates at $16.00/hour entry level pay. Workers cannot even afford to buy what they build. Big Three auto jobs used to be the gold standard of blue collar factory jobs now they’re crap jobs. The companies who exploit their workforce are the main reason nobody wants to work there NOW. UAW can’t organize the foreign owned plants because (just like the failed campaign at Nissan in Mississippi a few years ago), the companies just use the UAW’s rotten contracts against them, they have nothing to offer but lower wages as Honda, Toyota, etc. start workers out at far higher wages. I’m cautiously optimistic about Shawn Fain, because he’s trying to make membership in the UAW mean something again, so they can not only better the lives of current members, but be able to actually make workers want to join the UAW again. Concessions will not grow the UAW, it’s time to take a stand.
I guess I'm lost. Didn't you know what you would be making per hour before you took the job? My employer told me.
My question would be if foreign automakers are building cars here in America what is stopping the UAW or any unions for that matter from forming in these automotive companies building cars here in America wether foreign-owned or not.
That argument doesn't make any sense to me when John McElroy says woe foreign automakers are having more than 50% of the market while building those cars here so if they're being built here there's nothing that stops those your workers from becoming unionized.
Because their workers don’t want unions and the constant dissatisfaction they bring. Would you want to pay 5% to a union with a long history of corruption?
@@davetx9020 If it meant that I got better wages, better health insurance, and more vacation days? Yeah 5% is a small price to pay, corruption or not. Especially when, on average, unionized workers make 18% more than non-union workers.
Math works out to me. But go off I guess.
I'm with Shaun Fain Steve Austin🙌🏾😂
Oh and it's the Faininator bringing down the elbow from the top rope! What a devastating move!
Always blame the workers. The people with the least power in any organization. Make it make sense.
I really don’t like this John guy.
IDK, I grew up in a Teamsters household (my parents had mixed feelings about their membership). We're sorta looking at a situation (like in the 80's) where union labor costs held US car companies back from innovating (see also Malaise Era), and allowed competition to flourish. I don't want to drive a car knowing it's subsidized by the government through corporate handouts. You can likely take all the gross executive compensation and spread it across the workforce, and it might mean few thousand dollars more in their pocket at the end of the year (which is what the companies are offering them anyway). Also there's a deep misunderstanding of how executive compensation works - just because you get stock options, doesn't mean they'll be worth anything when they are fully vested. Union jobs aren't meant to provide workers with means to build private pools and buy helicopters - they're meant to provide a decent living based on the area where the facility is located - creating job stability and supporting the local economy. Their current hourly pay (for new workers) seems low - however hourly pay isn't everything. That usually comes with healthcare (which for a family of four can be thousands a month), education subsidies (if you want to move out of an assembly line job), retirement pension savings which can allow some workers to start collecting at 42! (at a highly reduced percentage of course) and profit sharing bonuses. If you lock companies into paying WAY above local labor rates - you ensure the company will try to automate your job, move it overseas (or to Mexico), OR just reduce the number of employees to compensate and let competitors take a larger percentage of the market.
“It’s a danger to our democracy...” a mouthpiece for corruption and corporations! Lol
Mc who?
The company has hurt Detroit by moving all the local factories overseas!
McElroy..you don’t work in our shoes…& YES GM does fuqkkkk over their employees, until you work in the UAW shoes
Ok boomer…
It's 2023. People research & congregate online, man... 😂 gtfo with that old corporate fear mongering.
These entities can't survive without employees.
I stand with UAW.
I thought they wanted Four day work weeks while being paid for Five and a Fourty Six percent increase in pay.
Magna is the same way. Skilled labor workers make a 1.00 more than a entry level person. Then give you a 5 cent cost of living. These big auto markers make billions and the workers make scraps.
Boy Today 10/26/23 these guy is saying he wishes Shawn Fain represented him to earn money, that just show how full of it they are.😂😂😂
Recall Shawn Fain
Who is John mcleroy? Did they just find some homeless guy off the street?
John Mcelroy is a TRUE COMPANY MAN!!!!! Cant stand his whiny voice either!
Fact is management talks family, even has commercial touting Great People HOWEVER their ACTIONS convey a much different opinion. Family does not treat family the way the line worker is treated. We made many concesss during GM Bankruptcy in order to help the company survive, and the company now fights us in our efforts to regain those concessions. That's the equivalent of the middle finger. We don't wish to damage the company or it's market share so why does the company consistently seek to materially damage our way of life?
The "concessions" came from future hires, that's pretty scummy!
The affect of this is going to be difficult for the supplier of parts and ther workers i have seen people panicking already
I DIDN'T KNOW WILLIAM H MACY FROM THE MOVIE FARGO, HAD AN OPINION ON THE UAW STRIKE.
Automobile manufacturers are driven by demand. If everyone wants electric they’ll make electric. But most consumers don’t care what powers their vehicle, they care about the brand. People who go on cruises couldn’t care less about if the ship is electric or steam or gas. That’s not the point. And the point of a vehicle isn’t to get you from point a to point b, it’s to make a statement about your status and signal to others what you like. Yardley Davidson could make an electric bike but it wouldn’t do them any good to convert all their bikes. Teslas batteries where never about the mechanics of electric it was about the status of owning a Tesla. For ford or anyone else to do electric without significant demand from their target audience or any reason to believe most people want electric isn’t going to work out financially.
Hard truth
Well guess what pay up and shout up.
01:41 what about the chance that after you fix these shanty wages you’ve been paying, Americans will feel proud and empowered to purchase American vehicles and just may shun these foreign companies who aren’t paying their workers as well as “you guys” will be paying them. People used to give others crap for purchasing some foreign car and not supporting their American brothers and sisters.
Show them! I bet you won't strike for over a year..... Prove me wrong!
Its one sided as always. GM employees want a ridiculous pay increase....what about the contractors and smaller companies that support GM. there is no strike fund for us, we dont get the raises, and we are laid off and screwed out of work and pay....fain is a nutjob tryin to make a name for himself...hell, they might as well ask for golf club memberships and the keys to the city, right along with the double digit pay increase
Get your AZZ on the line
UAW President sounds on point to me
Chris Farley ?
“Look here, you rich people: Weep and groan with anguish because of all the terrible troubles ahead of you. 2 Your wealth is rotting away, and your fine clothes are moth-eaten rags. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded. The very wealth you were counting on will eat away your flesh like fire. This corroded treasure you have hoarded will testify against you on the day of judgment. 4 For listen! Hear the cries of the field workers whom you have cheated of their pay. The cries of those who harvest your fields have reached the ears of the Lord of Heaven’s Armies.
5 You have spent your years on earth in luxury, satisfying your every desire. You have fattened yourselves for the day of slaughter. 6 You have condemned and killed innocent people, who do not resist you.” -JAMES 5 NLT
I’m sorry but I think the UAW has lost their minds. If the whole membership is in agreement with what they’re saying they want then I don’t really care if they all lose their jobs. The demands are really just too much. We own a mom and pop business and we are not getting that kind of increase.
If they think it can go back to like it was thirty years ago, well I don’t see it. Vehicles are already getting priced out of range of many families.
Yeah idk where they think the money is coming from
It's not labors fault that vehicles prices continue to climb, their wages are locked in for the duration of their contract. It's even been said that the union contract is generally paid off within 2 months of profit.
Can't even blame vendors because they contract the lowest bidders for parts.
And why shouldn't workers get back at some of the consessions they were forced 10 yrs ago to help their company's in their financial struggles?
I can go on and on, but if you're not willing to see the bigger picture I'm not wasting my time
UAW you just handed the car industry to the Chinese and Japanese, in Japan if a company is not making the profits the top CEO's and corporate all take a huge pay cut.
Fain doesn’t even make sense anymore, totally out of touch. He needs to be recalled.
It is why I own Hondas.
Fourteen years ago, when the big three automakers were struggling to stay afloat, the American people stepped in to support them. So did the auto workers in the UAW who sacrificed pay and benefits to help get the companies back on their feet. Now that our carmakers are enjoying robust profits, it’s time to do right by those same workers so the industry can emerge more united and competitive than ever.
stop saying you sacrificed pay and benefits. Tax payers did save the company, but you will have no job if the automaker went down end of story. you were a bigger burden and just decide to become a smaller burden lol you did not save the company but the taxpayer did, otherwise you have no job