11:32 Forgetting the best part about Tatooine Remastered is all the extra spaces and characters added to maps, like the cantina band, various store fronts, and different creatures added throughout the map
Bro same I literally see everyone complaining about it I haven't heard anyone say anything good like I get it multiplayer sucks but single player is still amazing I can play instant action and galactic conquest for days
@@codycry3196 the reason you probably dont hear anyone talking about the good things is because the original versions are better on PC (has all the mods) and Xbox (is already upscaled, forced 60fps and has HDR), the only console that gets a better version is PS5 as the PS2 version sucks so for Xbox and PC users the classic collection is actually worse than the classic versions even for singleplayer
One thing that you forgot to mention is the amount of movie references in some of the maps in the Remaster. Force ghost Qui-Gon in Dagobah, the holochess board on the rebel's cruise, R2 and 3Po on the deathstar, etc... There's a new update coming with new skins also for the remaster, can't wait.
I cannot believe you did not talk about the coruscant space battle I played that literally yesterday and for f***** sake that is amazing it's just like in the movies
The only vote I disagree with is i think the classic collection of kashyyyk should take the win for being more film accurate with the colors and textures
Yes, one is made by a whole company that costs more than the original games, bigger in size, plays and runs worse than the originals, while the mod is made by 1 person, the mod is free and only 5gb
They really should just pay the author of the Remaster mod and implement it in the game (like CDPR did with the author of the HD Reworked Project for The Witcher 3). A lot of work had already been done, textures, models, locations, etc. But I guess they wanted this to be as much cashgrab as possible with minimum budget.
Coruscant is a planet of city, the night sky would be bright from all the lights, the classic collection version is definitely a more realistic night sky
I wish the remastered project wouldn't have removed all of the bright vibrant colors. Also, I really don't like the Storm Trooper color change, it needs to be bright white, other than those two things, the remastered project is easily better than the CC
The remaster is definitely better in almost all respects, and the classic collection has been a dumpster fire, but I wonder if doing this comparison really made sense since, as you said, the classic collection isn't a remaster. So it is kind of like asking if a re-release that has been upscaled is better or a remaster. If you wanted to just spotlight the remaster and promote it as an alternative to the classic collection, making the video "why the remaster is better" would have been more earnest. On a side-note, this is the first time I've seen footage of the remaster, and there is something uncanny valley about all the character models, their postures, and their proportions.
what I always didn't like about endor in bf2 2005 was that it was too dark in the sense that, the trees, the leaves, and the ground/grass color palettes blended a little too close to each other that if I squinted my eyes, details get lost. I found it infuriating to play as the empire when I could barely see the wookies and ewoks especially when I could only the game from our old 90s crt tv. the classic collection seems to address my issues in a sense by brightening the bark of the trees, but now it seems to stick out like a sore thumb. whereas the remastered project has made endor significantly better for me lol
Not to be that guy but I'm not really a fan of overhaul visual mods because they tend to go way overboard with it like oversaturating, contrasty, and shiny textures and colors, very too smooth textures, character models look too funky, cartoony, and shiny making it look like plastic. They're cool and make maps look amazing but it gets rid of the vibes of the map and the feeling of the original game like for example in Kashyyyk. Classic collection does look a bit better than the original but it still keeps that original vibe of the map/game. Still, though, they could have done way better with the Classic Collection graphics.
Battlefront 1&2 should have been made similar to halo MCC. Where basically they remaster the games looks and on the fly you can instantly switch between old and new.
Only problem with the remaster is that it's PC only. And I can't play with Mouse and Keyboard(specifically the keyboard) It physically hurts having to twist and stretch my fingers to reach all the buttons, especially when three of them are constantly occupied with WASD on something that can be achieved better by one single thumb stick.
I definitely fully agree with this. my hands have suffered too much nerve damage to play on any type of m&k setup I've seen. after 10 minutes it hurts too much to continue. but with controller I can play for hours and hours without much problem. I may be misremembering but when I played swbf2 on my laptop I couldn't get any controller to work properly, so I gave up and haven't touched it since. didn't know this mod existed, so maybe I will try it again. there has to be some way to have the controller support work correctly as it does in console
14:00 You didn't show Space Coruscant? It's the best looking Remastered Space map! All the different Capital ships and Lucrehulks you can actually enter is insanely accurate to RoTS
It is playable as someone who has 117 hours on the classic collection yes now battle front 1 is a bit weird UT I think it's just like that but personally you should probably play battlefront 2
Even though I've played the remaster for some years now, the space maps never fail to take my breath away. Most likely, because they are far more recent additions. The only possible fault Harrison Fogs mod could have is that the assets look abit plastic/blender like. But this obviously due to it being based off a ps2 game.
I wish the remaster mod could handle ultrawide or that I could find another mod that fixed the ui on ultrawide. Otherwise, it's literally unplayable compared to the collection, which is playable but still very broken.
One thing you forgot to mention about Naboo is that the remaster fixes the bug where your units (or the enemy units) will all get stuck in the upper left of the map!!! I don't think the classic collection fixed this at all. Naboo is such a pain because of this bug, but with the remaster its fixed and the map is surprisingly enjoyable!
as a one,s console gamer i still play my pc with controller on all games battlefront 2 had no controller support quick download fixed now i play BF2 steam remaster project with controller support and my god this game has never felt better modern dev,s are absolutely lazy and uncreative
"We'll keep a tally of which is better." Yes, because a video that starts off by saying the classic sucks and the mod is the greatest thing ever is definitely not going to be biased.
the classic collection does suck though? for us PC and Xbox gamers the classic collection is the worst version, only reason its good for PS5 players is because they cant play the original versions so they are stuck the awful Asspyr cashgrab
@@wulf1046 I'm glad. I wanted to see what he had to say, but he didn't hide his bias or act as if there wasn't going to be obvious differences between the two.
Winner is classic collection cause it's the only one of the 2 thats remastered and not a remake of in gane assets that get replaced, so their for this comparison is invalid
Where do you get this? Do they have a Remaster for Battlefront 2004? Im not real crazy about Battlfront 2 (2005). My favorite maps are on BF1. No maps on BF2 on land with vehicles and air ships (like Dune Sea map has).
So they brought back cutscenes to the end of the campaign missions, but not the right ones. Now the intro cutscene plays during the end of a campaign mission. I bought this to play Battlefront 2 on the Switch but unfortunately it’s a horrible version of a great game
I guess the reason why they didn't actually remaster the graphics is a little apparent when you look at their other remasters of other Star Wars games. They're just in a habit of putting them to new consoles because they know they'll get the money and everybody loves Star Wars games so they don't really need to do anything. Even when they advertise they were going to do something one time with Kotor 2 they ended up not doing it
My biggest issue with the collection was me getting booted from servers specifically seeing "booted from session" and not sure why or if that was part of the server issues. Like the map would load up but then I just get immediately booted with the message I quoted and I played on playstation, was that part of the issues everyone else had or was that just me being booted by the host or other players? It happened to me quite a bit...
Amazing how thick game corporations are, the skills that modders have makes the actual hired developers to remaster the games look like they're being lazy. Just a shame that they don't do a hidden competition to see who modded the game better and literally buys them to expand it. Especially keeping the space low.
Yeah some the checker border thing happens and hoth kinda glitches into like a grabbed mess but the map is still playable and it's honestly pretty fun to play and the hoth glitch happens a couple times
Im not a fan of how they removed the purple lighting from Utapau. Film Utapau’s colour pallet consisted of greens, beige, browns and purple. No idea why that was changed
Dont want slaughter the classic collection just for the sake of it but tbh just think of the classic Obi Wan vs Anakin fight. And its really dark with extremely contrasted and saturated bright lava reflections. That actually looks extremely accurate
I certainly liked aspects from EA’s battlefront 2 and the original and would’ve been 100% down if EA had taken the original and remastered it to modern graphics like what happened to Halo 2. BF2 already had a arguably iconic campaign, improved galactic conquest, space battles, etc and if they combined the elements from the class system and specialty units in EA’s version into the remaster, I believe you would have a player base similar to Hell Divers 2. Hell, they could’ve expounded on the cutscenes like Venators traversing hyperspace between missions or you, as a clone trooper, walking up the steps of the Jedi Temple during order 66 to do away with loading screens. The current BF2 campaign would’ve been more effective as a DLC campaign to entice players to stay and expound on the events after the Battle of Hoth where the original ended. LMK if you agree or disagree
You summed it up well. Console is just Plug and play for the simple-minded who can't even install a game without large arrows pointing at what to press next. PC master race ✌
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I'm playing Battlefront 2 (2017) on PS and i seen so many new players. Y'all think this got to do something with the classic collection release and some guys got hyped up and bought it or was i just lucky.
At this point they just need to partner together and rebuild the game and then relaunch it, of course for free for the people who’ve preordered/bought it already.
I love the arma mods if Star Wars did an arma style game with the realism and mechanics and with Jedi from all over they can milk that I’d spend all my money on purchasable things too they never add new stuff smh
Bro I don’t get it. People hate on classic collection because of only Multiplayer and now they are comparing 2005 to 2019+ versions. Do you not like the og maps then because thechnically the classic colection is a DKoldies Refurbished game.
and if you see the EGM mod for battlefront 2004 and compare it with the classic collection... the official remaster will have no chance of getting even one point
Do you really think the city planet coruscant would have such a pitch black night sky? Have you never been to a city at night? And that's just one city not to mention the entire planet is covered in massive sky scrapers all lit up. Classic collection definitely wins that one. Darker ≠ better.
"I'm giving this one to Coruscant"
"Definitely goes to Kamino"
11:32
Forgetting the best part about Tatooine Remastered is all the extra spaces and characters added to maps, like the cantina band, various store fronts, and different creatures added throughout the map
I absolutely love battlefront 2 remastered, it’s the only game i can play by myself for literal hours. it’s just such an awesome time
Bro same I literally see everyone complaining about it I haven't heard anyone say anything good like I get it multiplayer sucks but single player is still amazing I can play instant action and galactic conquest for days
@@codycry3196 the reason you probably dont hear anyone talking about the good things is because the original versions are better on PC (has all the mods) and Xbox (is already upscaled, forced 60fps and has HDR), the only console that gets a better version is PS5 as the PS2 version sucks so for Xbox and PC users the classic collection is actually worse than the classic versions even for singleplayer
I play on steam deck I prefer the classic collection because of the controls
Same got already 50+ hours ON Switch
@@theaces3697Most ppl don’t fw PCs
One thing that you forgot to mention is the amount of movie references in some of the maps in the Remaster. Force ghost Qui-Gon in Dagobah, the holochess board on the rebel's cruise, R2 and 3Po on the deathstar, etc... There's a new update coming with new skins also for the remaster, can't wait.
and yet the modders did it for free.......................
I cannot believe you did not talk about the coruscant space battle I played that literally yesterday and for f***** sake that is amazing it's just like in the movies
Its the diffrence between a passion project and a blatant cash grap!
The only vote I disagree with is i think the classic collection of kashyyyk should take the win for being more film accurate with the colors and textures
The classic remaster is really good improvement in my opinion
I've almost had a heart attack when you gave the Classic Collection one point in favor for the Mustafar map
Classic collection Coruscant actually looks on par imo. The floor looks shiny and good.
Removing the red glow in the prisone cell hallway is a negative for the remaster
Is it really fair to do a comparison of a mod that took time and effort to remaster a classic game to a game that just got ported
One had a team of people behind it and released worse than a 20 year old game while one was made by one guy and is great. So yes?
Yes, one is made by a whole company that costs more than the original games, bigger in size, plays and runs worse than the originals, while the mod is made by 1 person, the mod is free and only 5gb
there is the ghost of Kenobi in Daghoba in the remaster mod!
They really should just pay the author of the Remaster mod and implement it in the game (like CDPR did with the author of the HD Reworked Project for The Witcher 3). A lot of work had already been done, textures, models, locations, etc. But I guess they wanted this to be as much cashgrab as possible with minimum budget.
Coruscant is a planet of city, the night sky would be bright from all the lights, the classic collection version is definitely a more realistic night sky
I wish the remastered project wouldn't have removed all of the bright vibrant colors. Also, I really don't like the Storm Trooper color change, it needs to be bright white, other than those two things, the remastered project is easily better than the CC
The remaster is definitely better in almost all respects, and the classic collection has been a dumpster fire, but I wonder if doing this comparison really made sense since, as you said, the classic collection isn't a remaster. So it is kind of like asking if a re-release that has been upscaled is better or a remaster.
If you wanted to just spotlight the remaster and promote it as an alternative to the classic collection, making the video "why the remaster is better" would have been more earnest.
On a side-note, this is the first time I've seen footage of the remaster, and there is something uncanny valley about all the character models, their postures, and their proportions.
I like it how Andrew says we do Star Wars stuff here while wearing an Indiana Jones shirt😂
I think you forget to compar the Yavin 4 map, not the dlc one, but the rebel base.
what I always didn't like about endor in bf2 2005 was that it was too dark in the sense that, the trees, the leaves, and the ground/grass color palettes blended a little too close to each other that if I squinted my eyes, details get lost. I found it infuriating to play as the empire when I could barely see the wookies and ewoks especially when I could only the game from our old 90s crt tv. the classic collection seems to address my issues in a sense by brightening the bark of the trees, but now it seems to stick out like a sore thumb. whereas the remastered project has made endor significantly better for me lol
Not to be that guy but I'm not really a fan of overhaul visual mods because they tend to go way overboard with it like oversaturating, contrasty, and shiny textures and colors, very too smooth textures, character models look too funky, cartoony, and shiny making it look like plastic. They're cool and make maps look amazing but it gets rid of the vibes of the map and the feeling of the original game like for example in Kashyyyk. Classic collection does look a bit better than the original but it still keeps that original vibe of the map/game. Still, though, they could have done way better with the Classic Collection graphics.
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Battlefront 1&2 should have been made similar to halo MCC. Where basically they remaster the games looks and on the fly you can instantly switch between old and new.
Nice t-shirt
Andrew never fails to entertain me.
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Do you have to have the original bf2 to get the remastered mod?
Only problem with the remaster is that it's PC only. And I can't play with Mouse and Keyboard(specifically the keyboard) It physically hurts having to twist and stretch my fingers to reach all the buttons, especially when three of them are constantly occupied with WASD on something that can be achieved better by one single thumb stick.
is there not a way to connect a controller to it
I definitely fully agree with this. my hands have suffered too much nerve damage to play on any type of m&k setup I've seen. after 10 minutes it hurts too much to continue.
but with controller I can play for hours and hours without much problem. I may be misremembering but when I played swbf2 on my laptop I couldn't get any controller to work properly, so I gave up and haven't touched it since.
didn't know this mod existed, so maybe I will try it again. there has to be some way to have the controller support work correctly as it does in console
14:00
You didn't show Space Coruscant? It's the best looking Remastered Space map! All the different Capital ships and Lucrehulks you can actually enter is insanely accurate to RoTS
Should've hired the modders to do the Classic Collection.
Is it actually playable now or are we still on the same issues?
It is playable as someone who has 117 hours on the classic collection yes now battle front 1 is a bit weird UT I think it's just like that but personally you should probably play battlefront 2
Even though I've played the remaster for some years now, the space maps never fail to take my breath away. Most likely, because they are far more recent additions. The only possible fault Harrison Fogs mod could have is that the assets look abit plastic/blender like. But this obviously due to it being based off a ps2 game.
I wish the remaster mod could handle ultrawide or that I could find another mod that fixed the ui on ultrawide. Otherwise, it's literally unplayable compared to the collection, which is playable but still very broken.
The classic collection is an upscale, yes but the thing is it shouldn't have been
I think what makes remaster look better in ALL scenes is the use of volumetric fog/mist/smoke in the distance. It hides a lot of the imperfections
One thing you forgot to mention about Naboo is that the remaster fixes the bug where your units (or the enemy units) will all get stuck in the upper left of the map!!! I don't think the classic collection fixed this at all. Naboo is such a pain because of this bug, but with the remaster its fixed and the map is surprisingly enjoyable!
Am I the only one who prefers the bright vibrant colours? May not be accurate to how it should look but imo, it looks more fun
From the beginning I knew the remaster will always be a dream come true ❤️
as a one,s console gamer i still play my pc with controller on all games battlefront 2 had no controller support quick download fixed now i play BF2 steam remaster project with controller support and my god this game has never felt better modern dev,s are absolutely lazy and uncreative
Looks amazing I’m glad I bought it on my switch OLED
I don't agree. The temple and death star is better in the classic. Kasssyck is also better. Are you sponsored or something XD
How did you fixed that bug that appeared for you that clone legions and skins cannot be changed.
I just wish the pc version better supported higher resolution and controllers
not having split screen really sucks
Damn bro, especially the trooper and character models look far cleaner in the remaster
"We'll keep a tally of which is better." Yes, because a video that starts off by saying the classic sucks and the mod is the greatest thing ever is definitely not going to be biased.
Classic collection sucks he said
the classic collection does suck though? for us PC and Xbox gamers the classic collection is the worst version, only reason its good for PS5 players is because they cant play the original versions so they are stuck the awful Asspyr cashgrab
True, you can definitely tell his opinions from the jump.
@@wulf1046 I'm glad. I wanted to see what he had to say, but he didn't hide his bias or act as if there wasn't going to be obvious differences between the two.
@snoxeri Also, true, this is more for entertainment than anything else and these
Winner is classic collection cause it's the only one of the 2 thats remastered and not a remake of in gane assets that get replaced, so their for this comparison is invalid
Where do you get this? Do they have a Remaster for Battlefront 2004? Im not real crazy about Battlfront 2 (2005). My favorite maps are on BF1. No maps on BF2 on land with vehicles and air ships (like Dune Sea map has).
Try EGM mod
5:04 aspyr is not a 'giant corporate studio' lol
Does it have controller support
Does anyone know if there is a way to add back in the "new" maps from the classic collection into the remaster?
There was an update to the remaster mod a couple of weeks ago that includes the DLC content.
I'd love to know some of the mods you use for bf 2 2005 honestly lol
Can you play the xlr mode in the console version of classic collection or not
I tried to to install it several times, it just doesn't work for me... it crashes everytime i load a map
So they brought back cutscenes to the end of the campaign missions, but not the right ones. Now the intro cutscene plays during the end of a campaign mission. I bought this to play Battlefront 2 on the Switch but unfortunately it’s a horrible version of a great game
I guess the reason why they didn't actually remaster the graphics is a little apparent when you look at their other remasters of other Star Wars games. They're just in a habit of putting them to new consoles because they know they'll get the money and everybody loves Star Wars games so they don't really need to do anything. Even when they advertise they were going to do something one time with Kotor 2 they ended up not doing it
My biggest issue with the collection was me getting booted from servers specifically seeing "booted from session" and not sure why or if that was part of the server issues. Like the map would load up but then I just get immediately booted with the message I quoted and I played on playstation, was that part of the issues everyone else had or was that just me being booted by the host or other players? It happened to me quite a bit...
So after all the fuckups during launch, is it safe to say it’s worth getting now?
Bright sky on coruscant makes sense if you consider the light pollution
I played the remaster mod the other day and there is no sound on Polis Masa. Has anyone else run into this bug? Plz help
Amazing how thick game corporations are, the skills that modders have makes the actual hired developers to remaster the games look like they're being lazy.
Just a shame that they don't do a hidden competition to see who modded the game better and literally buys them to expand it. Especially keeping the space low.
So how is the Remaster after Launch? Have the issues it had been resolved?
Yeah some the checker border thing happens and hoth kinda glitches into like a grabbed mess but the map is still playable and it's honestly pretty fun to play and the hoth glitch happens a couple times
@@You357-m7vReward weapons are broken though.
@vruxdrossgaming weird maybe I have a good copy cause for me the weapons are totally fine
#4:03
Death Star is just bigger sized G0-T0 - Droid from KOTOR2
Next stop, battlefront 3?
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I was just playing bf2 classic multiplayer lastnight and still got the checker board glitch…why asypr please fix
Love seeing the indy shirt
Does anyone know if they patched up the glitches yet?
Im not a fan of how they removed the purple lighting from Utapau. Film Utapau’s colour pallet consisted of greens, beige, browns and purple. No idea why that was changed
Dont want slaughter the classic collection just for the sake of it but tbh just think of the classic Obi Wan vs Anakin fight. And its really dark with extremely contrasted and saturated bright lava reflections. That actually looks extremely accurate
I certainly liked aspects from EA’s battlefront 2 and the original and would’ve been 100% down if EA had taken the original and remastered it to modern graphics like what happened to Halo 2. BF2 already had a arguably iconic campaign, improved galactic conquest, space battles, etc and if they combined the elements from the class system and specialty units in EA’s version into the remaster, I believe you would have a player base similar to Hell Divers 2. Hell, they could’ve expounded on the cutscenes like Venators traversing hyperspace between missions or you, as a clone trooper, walking up the steps of the Jedi Temple during order 66 to do away with loading screens.
The current BF2 campaign would’ve been more effective as a DLC campaign to entice players to stay and expound on the events after the Battle of Hoth where the original ended.
LMK if you agree or disagree
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You summed it up well. Console is just Plug and play for the simple-minded who can't even install a game without large arrows pointing at what to press next.
PC master race ✌
But what about player numbers?
On Steam, Battlefront 2 classic has more players than the Collection, I can't speak for GOG (Steam and GOG has cross-play) or consoles
"Utapau is my least favorite classic battlefront map."
Impossible. Perhaps the archives are incomplete.
It’s crazy that modders are doing better than EA and other big gaming companies.
Fell off
No he no fall. He still sitting through vid
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Its raining on kamino ?!?
BFCC's Sky looks like they made it in Hearts of Iron 4.
I'm currently where the score is 0-6 and don't see any chances of the classic version scoring even 1 point... :D
Not only can you change your skins, but you can also change a lot of gameplay features with the remaster on the fake console.
I'm playing Battlefront 2 (2017) on PS and i seen so many new players. Y'all think this got to do something with the classic collection release and some guys got hyped up and bought it or was i just lucky.
Fully agreed! Wish we had mods on Xbox!
At this point they just need to partner together and rebuild the game and then relaunch it, of course for free for the people who’ve preordered/bought it already.
10:20 what the Fuck? I didn't have that fog on the Xbox One version 😭 HOW can a significantly more powerful console have it WORSE?
I love the arma mods if Star Wars did an arma style game with the realism and mechanics and with Jedi from all over they can milk that I’d spend all my money on purchasable things too they never add new stuff smh
this video should be called why the remaster version is better thatn the classic version
Do battlefront 1 with the enhancef graphics and gameplay mod vs the classic collection.
There's a reason Aspyr lost the KOTOR remaster...
easter egg Han Solo is on your shirt ;)
Bro I don’t get it. People hate on classic collection because of only Multiplayer and now they are comparing 2005 to 2019+ versions. Do you not like the og maps then because thechnically the classic colection is a DKoldies Refurbished game.
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the classic death star looks way better, the remaster doesn't look like it does in the original or the film
and if you see the EGM mod for battlefront 2004 and compare it with the classic collection... the official remaster will have no chance of getting even one point
ight, 100 ways to die when? i will not stop until we get it
Do you really think the city planet coruscant would have such a pitch black night sky? Have you never been to a city at night? And that's just one city not to mention the entire planet is covered in massive sky scrapers all lit up. Classic collection definitely wins that one. Darker ≠ better.
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Is there galactic conquest? All the mods ive teied sucks because its essentially just maps with no galactic conquest
Got so excited then I realized it was a mod😭
Well it’s a literal fact that community made mods make any game better than what the original developers made.