FYI 3000 series should have something called an ECO mode that could either be activated through bios or ryzen master. Allowing you to drop the voltage down to about 0.9V stable and running 44% power consumption with 77% performance. Other then having the best performance/wattage you'll also run A LOT cooler.
The parts list says"Veddha V3C 8-GPU Mining Case Aluminum Stackable x4". This dont look like for and one of them sells for alot more then parts list price. Did case change or does this need updated or what?
fuck bro I LOVE to see this kind of DIY stuff, where you just code and build what you need when you need and IoT it all. I even see some 3D printed components
Did you build the frame yourself? I'm thinking about building an XMR miner but since you gotta put in multiple motherboards + cpus (vs single mb and multi gpu) i'm not sure if the prebuilt frames you can find online are suitable.
Thanks. It was a fun project. I just had to reload winblows and all the software on one of the miners after 2 years of continuous operation. I updated the documents slightly. It was very smooth and easy to rebuild the hard drive. Winblows normally blows up occasionally on any machine. Running the cpus at 1.100v probably contributed. But, it is worth the electricity savings.
@@microdronetech8453 Awesome! 1) Why not Linux? 2) Along those 2 years how did your profitability evolve? random? flat? trending down? up? 3) Are your 4 processors still up to the task performance-wise, or do you think upgrading them at some point?
@@percevalzinzin5983 I'm a winblows guy. I have too much software over 30 years of programming in winblows. Profit is strange. Most of my coins were made using 8 Vega 56 GPU cards. They were a real pain to keep online at decent low voltages. But, even when I was mining 4 years ago the payback for the hardware was still 1 year. In 2018 the rig would make 1 coin every 2 weeks. Now, the same priced CPU rig makes 1 coin every 3 months. But, the price of a single coin is 5X higher now. I suppose in 4 more years this rig will make 1 coin every year. But, the price of the coin will be over $1,000. It is strange. I never feel like I'm making money, but somehow the rig does pay for itself. I'm never going to get rich. But, It is a really cool rig to run. The watchdog software that I coded makes the rig extremely efficient. My uptime at 100% capacity is around 99.8%. I have all the docs and code in the description.
Amazing setup. Please can you try mining Scala XLA (Panthera algorithm) with SRBmining? One more thing, Would you update to Ryzen 5950x? I am building my first setup with MSI B550 Bazooka but I didn't decided between Ryzen generations.
The 3950 and the 5950 are benchmarking the same on Random X. If the price is the same it is worth it. I'm not sure about the other cryptos. I just mine one crypto. All 4 of my monero miners have been 99.9% up for the last 3 months.
Thanks. It still runs will with pretty much 100% uptime for the past 3 years. I do have to yearly blow all the dust out with an air compressor. It is best to do it outside in the winter when the humidity is low.
Nice video it has been a while since your last Monero video I remember it was before the change to Random X. BTW where can I buy those fans clips/hangers?
I’m a bit lost here. Isn’t the use of windows and the text messages being sent to your personal cellphone, kind of a signal to our big and bright not so nice friend?
3950x owner here. The infinity fabric is key to the memory OC. Divide the memory MHz in half for the infinity fabric. I have my 3600mhz ram with 1800 MHz on the infinity fabric. Just need to use the xmp profile supplied with the ram. And your good to go Cpu should be on auto to take advantage
@@waynefilkins8394 With monero, you really have no ROI for the moment because payouts are really small. We only secure the network and make it decentralized and hope for more transactions. With more people into Monero and more transactions, the payouts will increase of course
@@Someoneisavaible thats up to you to decide, check cost and output vs power consumption... With few gpus might be interesting to see whole system running
Using solar power with grid tie inverter will cut down the electricity to 50%. You pay only the power using at night when is no sun. For 100% profitabillty you have to add 48v solar battery system 40 killowatthours wich is around $120 per kw if you choose deepcycle agm = $4800. 5-7 years battery life. Best world battery ever made is a lot cheaper solution when you buy bulk battery system using lithium titanate YINLONG. This is 25 years shell lifecycle. Its the best battery in the world also used in space shuttles and satellites. And its the safest battery. 0 fire risk.
Can I make multi-board 3700X monero mining rig with the junk boards Newegg includes with their GPU combos? Or do they NEED to be premium gaming motherboards for the cooling?
I'm subscribed. Thanks for giving a shoutout to CPU mining. I've got some CPU mining ideas and questions, but also don't want to start posting things in public forums in a way that could mess with the prices. My thing is trying not to buy new and recycle as much as possible, and there are A LOT of recycled CPU's on the re-seller's market. For instance, one of the cheapest and quickest ways to get a setup is to buy a used mobo with a cpu/ram/etc already installed. People upgrading and selling their older setups will likely not want to take the time to detach and sell all of the extras. The downside is the lack of options involved, but sometimes something will fall into the criteria of what you are after, and you get the whole setup fairly cheap. Looking forward to more CPU mining stuff if you get around to it. Maybe we could throw some better ideas around in a less-public way after some trust is built. Thanks again.
Monero is supposed to be the peoples money. Bitcoin is controlled by 1% of the miners that own most of the coins. The idea of CPU mining is to allow normal gamers to support the network instead of rich elites. Public is good.
@@microdronetech8453 Public is good, but I also can't pretend like the same people who centralized Bitcoin and now Ethereum, wouldn't do the same to the CPU market. Let's say Monero continues to grow in price, and day-after-day this informative video gets more and more views from people interested in mining Monero. If I were to blabber around the best ideas, particularly concerning keeping the entry-level investment low, over time, we would see the exact same re-seller's scalping equipment, selling it for 4x the value, thereby deleting the chance for common people to participate. GPU mining was meant to be decentralized, but when we start seeing people selling GPU mining rigs that cost as much as an ASIC, and a single GPU costs 3-4x msrp, we can both understand that those who have the means, will forever greedily horde, and centralize power as much as they can. I am not a rich elite. All I have to contend with these elites, is not money, but what few ideas I may have that are untapped by the market. I left a hint in the initial post that I made. I hope you can find it, and if you do find it, it's your choice to talk about it. I really want to share all of the data, I really do, but these dangdable re-sellers smell opportunities on public forums like a bloodhound. Unfortunately, at this time, I have to keep the barrier-of-entry at the level for people smart enough, or passionate enough to figure it out on their own. When I say "re-seller's market," there is a specific website that everyone uses... if you can find the dark-themed "cpu hashrates" website, what I'm after CPU-wise, is on the first page... A lot of great CPU's started coming out around 2011. Yup. I'm weird... It is the internet though.
@@DGTL_MRKT ASICs are 10x more profitable than CPUs. Monero was getting 50% of the hash rate from custom ASICs that were kept secret for up to 6 months before the algo was changed. Big money can drop $1 million on ASIC custom designs and rack in $10 million in coin. That doesn't happen with CPUs. CPU's are way more expensive than ASICs. Return on investment needs to be 1 month. Return on investment with a CPU is at least 2 years at current prices and more like 4 years when monero drops back down to $100.
@@microdronetech8453 I agree with everything you said, except the last sentence, "Return on investment with a CPU is at least 2 years at current prices and more like 4 years when monero drops back down to $100." I think I can ROI in less than a year at current monero prices. This is theoretical, but I hope to let you know more within a couple months. But hey, ROI ain't everything. Monero is a crypto that's been around for awhile now, and has officially made a stance that I support. Deterring ASICs, and even GPUs, Monero has gone above and beyond to uphold the basic principle... this is the reason to support Monero. Do I think that Monero is going to continue to increase in price, and won't succumb to the bear market? No, it will fall again, but I do believe it will level out at a price higher than it was during the last bear market. Eventually, over 5, 10, 20 years, I think Monero will remain at a gradual increase in price, with market fluctuations ending in an overall increase.. but that's just my opinion of course. Anywho, thanks again for the video and the responses. It's nice of you to respond to my rambling. I'll come back and post when I've secured first-hand data on this theory I have.
Where is your shows: miner speed 17406 H/s max 17424 at 5:31 Mine shows: 1914 H/s max 7836.1 H/s What am I missing? I am running hiveos with a 3950x with 8Gb and temps 66C-68C
Is it possible to mine with AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3995WX, or I won't be able to utilize it effectively because windows only support 64 threads? Is it better to go with Threadripper PRO 3975WX?
They seem to have less efficiency. I get 17,000 hash for 220 watts total for each motherboard. Over 10 year life span, electricity is much more than hardware.
microcenter for the cpu. It looks like everything is going nuts right now with the free stimulus money. Used prices are higher than MSRP. Wait a few months. Prices will crash soon enough.
@@cyo1987 17,500 hash on the 3950x draws 230 watts total. The CPU is 130 watts. 100 watts is the mother board, fans and ram. The 3900x ran 12,500 hash at 200 watts total. The mother board watts is the same on both chips. The entire miner is X 4.
Thank you for posting the part lists. Very helpful Just an idea, but you should think about posting Amazon links to get a kick back. I am planning to buy these parts anyway, would have been good to use your links to support your hard work. Thanks again.
The hardware really hasn't gotten any faster. The new Ryzen chips don't run faster than the 3950 for Random X. I do an update video about the 99.9% uptime this 4X miner has. The guard dog software reboots one of them about once per day. But, they keep on running at 70 deg C.
Hello sir, Im a huge fan of your videos and of XMR as well. I would love to invest some money into mining also, but im kinda a noob on this point. I have tried to buy everything on your list, but could only get the 5900x instead. Would that change anything in my order i should be aware of?
use the faster memory that I have on the list. The 5900x should provide the same hash as the 3900x. 12,500 hash running 1.1V and nice and cool CPU. Everything is the same. The stock cooler should be fine for the 5900X, because it only has 12 cores. But, you can run the bigger cooler that I have in specified. I want this rig to run 10 years with minimal maintenance. They key to long life is staying below 70 deg C on the CPU.
Do temperature optimization last. The stock CPU voltage is more stable while you trouble shoot everything on the rig. Once the rig is stable drop the frequency to 3,800 Mhz and the voltage to 1.100V. I suspect the 5900 is the exact same chip as the 3900 (mostly).
The mining os charge a fee. Monero seems to have the highest hash rates on winblows operating system. I made this video to make it easier for anyone to mine monero on winblows. But, I could see the advantage of a mining os making it easy to mine many different coins.
The 5950x looks to be the exact same as the 3950 for mining. Use all 32 threads unless you need to use the machine to run video games or other intense applications at the same time. The miner should default to using all the threads automatically.
Why would you cheap out on the coolers of all things? I'm going to go ahead and assume that those cheap coolers aren't actually built for TR but are just adapted to fit on TR. If you got some NH-U9 or U14S TR4-SP3 coolers you'd be doing a hell of a lot better cooling-wise since the piece that makes contact with the IHS actually covers it and would put the heatpipes in exactly the right spot above the die.
I like that the $26 cooler in the parts list has the heat pipes in direct contact with the chip. Why would putting another layer of aluminum between the chip and the heat tubes be better? Heat transfer is conductance x distance. Copper has much better conductance than aluminum.
very nice setup! i accidentally found your video (just thinking about buying 3950x for my pc and randomly watch youtube about cpu) but conform nicehash calc - 3950x give 1.8$ per day - so - what is the point in such investments in so pricey cpus?
$1.8 per day is $657 per year. There is the CPU payback. 10 years of mining is $6,570. It is profitable. I don't count the electricity because I like the heat in the basement. I don't count the labor because I enjoy building a supercompter.
@@microdronetech8453 >$1.8 per day is $657 per year. There is the CPU payback. 10 years of mining is $6,570 but this calculation is for now - when XMR almost at "all time high"... but i agree that if "we" think in 10 years - in this period all currency will be at ATH 1-2 time probably... thank for your answers 🙂
@@waynefilkins8394 reality is my supervisor. And the marx labor theory of value leaves out that the $6,000 worth of hardware for the miner is not free. Nor is the latest hardware the same as 25 year old obsolete hardware. It takes labor to make the stuff work.
@@microdronetech8453 I meant it figuratively like when people say they enjoy their job so it's not like they are working, ya know? Like the whole work from home thing...I know you're still working and prolly putting in mad hours, I didn't mean it like that. I just meant like it's way better than working a shit job for some dickhead, doing more work than him and getting paid less.
@@f.e.free4a25 I'm thinking about listing it for $8,000. But, I would just build another one. Payback would be 2.4 years at todays XMR prices. Hardware prices are up though. I'm in XMR for the long haul. Building a rig really isn't that hard. I will try to keep the share folder up to date with any changes I do to this rig. GPU mining was quite a bit harder. My hardware is already paid for. What I like is that XMR can drop down to $60 and I am still profitable with electricity. Can't say the same for Bitcoin since they have no tail emissions.
@MicroDroneTech mój Ryzen 3950X leci max 14,000 Hash... Nie wiem co zrobić... Kupiłem nawet RAM 2x 8GB 3200mhz CL14 i max to 14,000 Hash... bo na 2x 8GB 3200mhz CL16 było tylko 12,500 Hash
I don't have time for more coins. I just picked one and stay with it. Linux is probably a good idea. I'm just a windows guy. My up time is months with zero downtime. But, the watch dog software does reboot individual boards nearly daily. And, I get texts with every re-boot. I'm running the CPUs at 17,000 hash and 130 watts. They do need to reboot because of instability. That is 132 hash/watt. Nobody has that high efficiency. Running the cpus cool allows them to run for years.
@@microdronetech8453 yeah i never had any issues with windows stability when i used it for GPU mining but i figured you may get a touch more hash out of a Linux distro. i only switched to hive OS for super easy remote access. as far as other coins go if you have them running on xmr already just as well to have the GPU mining kaspa or something. cool set up though man im thinking about getting into CPU stuff now with the merge around the bend.
@@microdronetech8453 yes, but each individual customer has their allotment, what difference does it make if I'm in a mining pool, or streaming 4k video with my allotment?
@@elijahhmarshall good point. They haven't banned the pool I'm on now. I forget the name, but it is in the dropbox on the description. My todo list is to switch to vpn that cant be banned. I will document that. Right now i have months of 100% uptime.
Im having a hard time making sure i get the right equipment, i have everything in my amazon list except the Aurora Colorful Backlit 3Pin 2 Fans 6 Copper Tube Dual Tower CPU Cooling Fan Cooler Heatsink for Intel AMD ... i have 4 alternative options in my cart but not sure if they are 100% compatible...can you provide a similar link to one that i can purchase please
I just updated the fans. The Colorful fans have really bad bearings. The share folder has the latest parts list. The new fans run about 10 deg F cooler too.
The motherboard will hang on normal boot. That may be fixed now in BIOS though. I haven't tested. The speed difference isn't noticeable. But, the reliability is.
Yes. GPU mining uses very little CPU. I used to GPU min 8 Vega 56 cards on a very wimpy CPU. The software is different though. I might get back to GPU mining in the future. However, the problem with the GPU is that ASICS can easily be created to dominate the network. RandomX for monero makes ASICs impossible. So, the network is organic and not manipulated.
The dropbox link is working now. The antivirus software on the server shut down my account when they discovered mining software in it. XMRig exe is flagged as bot software because so many bots run it.
in the end 15:55 you mentioned about "you hope that rigs running many year" that is even more intrigue. What is the point? i explain my question (i *really watn get your* point 😉) *1* -3950x is give 1.78$(48$ month) for now but cost in newegg for example 810$ (in my county it cost 946$...) and we can put 1 cpu per rig *2* -in dollars 1.78$ for now in ETH is 18Mhs - 18 we can get on every 1060 without overclock but with OC -24Mhs = 2.44$ per day and 73$ per month. *3* -we can easy put in almost every rig 6-8 GPUs and what we take in ETH -> convert every day to XMR - so this way we can recieve more XMR if you belive in monero and hold monero. So even on old GTX 1060 wich not so power effective we can getn money representation more XMR, we can day by day change ETH to XMR is we wath hold xmr.... but in gpu mining we can put many GPUs for example if i attentively read description about ASUS ROG Crosshair VII HERO - there are room for 7 GPUs ...
I saw ETH has gone up much more than XMR. This rig previously had 8 x VEGA 56 cards that would currently make $40 per day. I sold those cards 2 years ago for $400 each. They go for $800 today used. XMR pays $9 per day now. I don't have the time to go back to GPU cards. Plus, they are super expensive now. I'll just keep mining monero to the end. I'm running 99.9% up time now for the last month at 68,000 Hash. I'll do an update videos showing the reliability. GPU cards do crash daily. But, the watch dog software I previously ran made them reliable.
@@noname-cp8ki They crash more often when the core voltage is lowered to keep them cooler and save power. It is always a trade off between stability and efficiency.
Good project, but for me you did not do the undervolt well, I have the 3900x mining at 12khs at 64w with 22 threads on at 45 degrees. I recommend use clockTuner for ryzen. regards
my 3900x is using less watts and making more monero on monero ocean. try monero ocean and be amzed. your chip will go on cryptonight heavy and be a beast
Running on 2 3950x and Stripper 2970 getting about 47 h total. In my opinion a water cooler will give me more room to overclock faster job closing than others on same network.. The income is not great on monero due to fluctuations on hash rate. Before investing in equipment do the math. Great video not sure if will be using the watch dog but great work. I agree wifi is not the best way since it fails alot.Im using Cat 8.
Do you stay around 70 deg C on the CPU? I run that temperature with 130 watts going to the CPU and 220 watts total going to each miner. You are getting 35% more hash rate. Openhardware monitor will tell you the power to the CPU by calculation.
ASIC is always more efficient. However, the monero devs made random X too complicated to be hardware coded into an asic. The intention was to keep monero as the peoples crypto using gaming computers to support the network and not the elites crypto or the chinese elites crypto.
Any mining noobs watching this, please do not mine in the MineXMR pool, it has a very large hashrate, more than double the next largest pool. Please consider mining in a smaller pool, your profitability won’t change, only the frequency with which you receive payouts. Help DECENTRALIZE the network, not centralize it in a bid to make a quick buck off of your CPUs.
Thanks for the video I'm planning to build such a rig myself, but I'm from Germany and the energy prices here are 0.31 -0.35 kw/h, I have to see how I can make such a rig run more energy-efficiently ^^
I could see the power rate doubling soon in Germany for political reasons. The floor of Monero always seems to be at $0.13 per kw/h as it is today. The network seems to adjust around that floor. In my application, I need the 900 watts of heat in my home from the 4 miners. So, I consider the electricity free. My basement is very comfortable. I don't think there is a more efficient way to run RandomX. I'm saving 250 watts total running the cpu at 1.100V on the miners. Intel has horrible efficiency and the EPYC processors bottle neck the memory. If you find anything more efficient, please share.
You are helping the network out quite a bit.
Thanks for what you do.
i thought you only truly 'helped' the network by having your own node and solo mining..
@@pezcore2142 you thought wrong
Man this looks amazing. 🔥 wish I had the knowledge do this. I'm looking into starting up just 1 rig and slowly grow them monthly.
"the most efficient monero mining in the world"
bold move sire
FYI 3000 series should have something called an ECO mode that could either be activated through bios or ryzen master. Allowing you to drop the voltage down to about 0.9V stable and running 44% power consumption with 77% performance. Other then having the best performance/wattage you'll also run A LOT cooler.
I get unstable below 1.05 V running 2.9 Ghz. This is manual tweaking. If I run 0.9V, I have to drop the frequency down a lot more.
The parts list says"Veddha V3C 8-GPU Mining Case Aluminum Stackable x4". This dont look like for and one of them sells for alot more then parts list price. Did case change or does this need updated or what?
Super informative and in detail, thank you.
Im just finding your page! I hope im not too late. Getting into it as a hobby. Wish me luck
Anyway we can contact you ? I would love to know more about the setup.. Id also be willing to pay for your time.. Hope to talk to you soon.
Kinda sus. Sounds like you are after his coins. I wouldn't respond to this
@@22z83 kinda sounds like he is trying to rent his hashpower.
Awesome setup and great video! Lots of great info, well done!
Thank you mates, nice rig
Your rig looks super cool.
fuck bro I LOVE to see this kind of DIY stuff, where you just code and build what you need when you need and IoT it all. I even see some 3D printed components
This is amazing man, awesome job
Beautiful. Sometimes you gotta do something cause you love it. It will pay off down the road surely.
So how much monero a month does this translate to for is mere mortals?
Did you build the frame yourself? I'm thinking about building an XMR miner but since you gotta put in multiple motherboards + cpus (vs single mb and multi gpu) i'm not sure if the prebuilt frames you can find online are suitable.
Yes. I have a video on building the frame. it is the motherboard bars from 4 frames on a single 8 GPU frame.
Awesome.Are you still running the RIG? Can you give a breakdown of profits?
Total is $2 per day. One coin per 77 days. Or 47 coins in 10 years.
@@microdronetech8453 Thanks for replying..quite slow going
Beautiful beast, very well engineered and nice look as well. It is obvious you threw a lot of time in the project.
Thanks. It was a fun project. I just had to reload winblows and all the software on one of the miners after 2 years of continuous operation. I updated the documents slightly. It was very smooth and easy to rebuild the hard drive. Winblows normally blows up occasionally on any machine. Running the cpus at 1.100v probably contributed. But, it is worth the electricity savings.
@@microdronetech8453 Awesome!
1) Why not Linux?
2) Along those 2 years how did your profitability evolve? random? flat? trending down? up?
3) Are your 4 processors still up to the task performance-wise, or do you think upgrading them at some point?
@@percevalzinzin5983 I'm a winblows guy. I have too much software over 30 years of programming in winblows. Profit is strange. Most of my coins were made using 8 Vega 56 GPU cards. They were a real pain to keep online at decent low voltages. But, even when I was mining 4 years ago the payback for the hardware was still 1 year. In 2018 the rig would make 1 coin every 2 weeks. Now, the same priced CPU rig makes 1 coin every 3 months. But, the price of a single coin is 5X higher now. I suppose in 4 more years this rig will make 1 coin every year. But, the price of the coin will be over $1,000. It is strange. I never feel like I'm making money, but somehow the rig does pay for itself. I'm never going to get rich. But, It is a really cool rig to run. The watchdog software that I coded makes the rig extremely efficient. My uptime at 100% capacity is around 99.8%. I have all the docs and code in the description.
@@microdronetech8453 Congrats on the achievement, that is a great project!
Amazing setup. Please can you try mining Scala XLA (Panthera algorithm) with SRBmining? One more thing, Would you update to Ryzen 5950x? I am building my first setup with MSI B550 Bazooka but I didn't decided between Ryzen generations.
The 3950 and the 5950 are benchmarking the same on Random X. If the price is the same it is worth it. I'm not sure about the other cryptos. I just mine one crypto. All 4 of my monero miners have been 99.9% up for the last 3 months.
Awesome mate!
Do you mine solo or p2pool? Or are you pool mining?
Still on a pool in Russia. HashVaultPro
This setup is lit 🔥🔥
Thanks. It still runs will with pretty much 100% uptime for the past 3 years. I do have to yearly blow all the dust out with an air compressor. It is best to do it outside in the winter when the humidity is low.
Nice video it has been a while since your last Monero video I remember it was before the change to Random X. BTW where can I buy those fans clips/hangers?
They came with the gpu mining frame. It is in the parts list on the drop box link.
@@microdronetech8453 Hi! unfortunately the link to your dropbox is still not working.. :( can you help us regarding this?
hello Sir, this setup 1 motherboard for 1 VGA card or 1 MB supporting 4 VGA?
I’m a bit lost here. Isn’t the use of windows and the text messages being sent to your personal cellphone, kind of a signal to our big and bright not so nice friend?
Nice… are you using Linux? what is your motherboard? Also how much memory have each one?
winblows. I have all the parts lists in the dropbox link in the description.
I just got a 3970x and a msi creator TRX40 for $350. Will it be able to mine monero and pay for itself in a 6 months?
not a multiplexer, it's a KVM switch
not alcohol in these tubes, it's distilled water
not a splitter box, it's a network switch
3950x owner here.
The infinity fabric is key to the memory OC.
Divide the memory MHz in half for the infinity fabric. I have my 3600mhz ram with 1800 MHz on the infinity fabric. Just need to use the xmp profile supplied with the ram. And your good to go
Cpu should be on auto to take advantage
Do you make decent profit mining it? Or just doing it to support the network?
@@waynefilkins8394 With monero, you really have no ROI for the moment because payouts are really small. We only secure the network and make it decentralized and hope for more transactions. With more people into Monero and more transactions, the payouts will increase of course
what's your profitability from this rig per day ?
70k hash on xmr is around 4$ per day...
@@sportnastava 😱😲 It's worth the investment? I wanted to know how much he applied
@@Someoneisavaible thats up to you to decide, check cost and output vs power consumption... With few gpus might be interesting to see whole system running
@@sportnastava doesn't worth, after thr electricity he is getting now around 70$ per month,,
Using solar power with grid tie inverter will cut down the electricity to 50%. You pay only the power using at night when is no sun.
For 100% profitabillty you have to add 48v solar battery system 40 killowatthours wich is around $120 per kw if you choose deepcycle agm = $4800. 5-7 years battery life.
Best world battery ever made is a lot cheaper solution when you buy bulk battery system using lithium titanate YINLONG. This is 25 years shell lifecycle. Its the best battery in the world also used in space shuttles and satellites. And its the safest battery. 0 fire risk.
is it okay running CPU and GPU mining simultaneously for xmr? (like hive os), please reupload the link, and thanks for kindly sharing this build
Yes. I cpu mine monero while gpu mining eth. Just have to leave 1 core unused for the system to run the gpu miner.
Can I make multi-board 3700X monero mining rig with the junk boards Newegg includes with their GPU combos? Or do they NEED to be premium gaming motherboards for the cooling?
If you run the CPU voltage at 1.1V the current is a lot lower. A cheap board should handle it fine.
Thanks for the input. Rather put the hardware to work even if its 6mo-1yr from now than take bottom dollar for these boards now.
I want to build something similar but the Dropbox link is not working can you provide new link
I'm subscribed. Thanks for giving a shoutout to CPU mining. I've got some CPU mining ideas and questions, but also don't want to start posting things in public forums in a way that could mess with the prices. My thing is trying not to buy new and recycle as much as possible, and there are A LOT of recycled CPU's on the re-seller's market.
For instance, one of the cheapest and quickest ways to get a setup is to buy a used mobo with a cpu/ram/etc already installed. People upgrading and selling their older setups will likely not want to take the time to detach and sell all of the extras. The downside is the lack of options involved, but sometimes something will fall into the criteria of what you are after, and you get the whole setup fairly cheap.
Looking forward to more CPU mining stuff if you get around to it. Maybe we could throw some better ideas around in a less-public way after some trust is built.
Thanks again.
Monero is supposed to be the peoples money. Bitcoin is controlled by 1% of the miners that own most of the coins. The idea of CPU mining is to allow normal gamers to support the network instead of rich elites. Public is good.
@@microdronetech8453 Public is good, but I also can't pretend like the same people who centralized Bitcoin and now Ethereum, wouldn't do the same to the CPU market.
Let's say Monero continues to grow in price, and day-after-day this informative video gets more and more views from people interested in mining Monero. If I were to blabber around the best ideas, particularly concerning keeping the entry-level investment low, over time, we would see the exact same re-seller's scalping equipment, selling it for 4x the value, thereby deleting the chance for common people to participate.
GPU mining was meant to be decentralized, but when we start seeing people selling GPU mining rigs that cost as much as an ASIC, and a single GPU costs 3-4x msrp, we can both understand that those who have the means, will forever greedily horde, and centralize power as much as they can.
I am not a rich elite.
All I have to contend with these elites, is not money, but what few ideas I may have that are untapped by the market.
I left a hint in the initial post that I made. I hope you can find it, and if you do find it, it's your choice to talk about it.
I really want to share all of the data, I really do, but these dangdable re-sellers smell opportunities on public forums like a bloodhound. Unfortunately, at this time, I have to keep the barrier-of-entry at the level for people smart enough, or passionate enough to figure it out on their own.
When I say "re-seller's market," there is a specific website that everyone uses... if you can find the dark-themed "cpu hashrates" website, what I'm after CPU-wise, is on the first page... A lot of great CPU's started coming out around 2011.
Yup. I'm weird... It is the internet though.
@@DGTL_MRKT ASICs are 10x more profitable than CPUs. Monero was getting 50% of the hash rate from custom ASICs that were kept secret for up to 6 months before the algo was changed. Big money can drop $1 million on ASIC custom designs and rack in $10 million in coin. That doesn't happen with CPUs. CPU's are way more expensive than ASICs. Return on investment needs to be 1 month. Return on investment with a CPU is at least 2 years at current prices and more like 4 years when monero drops back down to $100.
@@microdronetech8453 I agree with everything you said, except the last sentence, "Return on investment with a CPU is at least 2 years at current prices and more like 4 years when monero drops back down to $100."
I think I can ROI in less than a year at current monero prices.
This is theoretical, but I hope to let you know more within a couple months.
But hey, ROI ain't everything. Monero is a crypto that's been around for awhile now, and has officially made a stance that I support.
Deterring ASICs, and even GPUs, Monero has gone above and beyond to uphold the basic principle... this is the reason to support Monero.
Do I think that Monero is going to continue to increase in price, and won't succumb to the bear market? No, it will fall again, but I do believe it will level out at a price higher than it was during the last bear market.
Eventually, over 5, 10, 20 years, I think Monero will remain at a gradual increase in price, with market fluctuations ending in an overall increase.. but that's just my opinion of course.
Anywho, thanks again for the video and the responses. It's nice of you to respond to my rambling.
I'll come back and post when I've secured first-hand data on this theory I have.
@@microdronetech8453 update incoming.. it'll take some time to write up.
Where is your shows: miner speed 17406 H/s max 17424 at 5:31
Mine shows: 1914 H/s max 7836.1 H/s
What am I missing?
I am running hiveos with a 3950x with 8Gb and temps 66C-68C
Is it possible to mine with AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3995WX, or I won't be able to utilize it effectively because windows only support 64 threads? Is it better to go with Threadripper PRO 3975WX?
They seem to have less efficiency. I get 17,000 hash for 220 watts total for each motherboard. Over 10 year life span, electricity is much more than hardware.
great video, where do you buy hardware? can't seem to find cpu and mobo for same prices as you
microcenter for the cpu. It looks like everything is going nuts right now with the free stimulus money. Used prices are higher than MSRP. Wait a few months. Prices will crash soon enough.
@@microdronetech8453 thanks for replying, im wondering whats the power consumption for each computer/entire rig?
@@cyo1987 17,500 hash on the 3950x draws 230 watts total. The CPU is 130 watts. 100 watts is the mother board, fans and ram. The 3900x ran 12,500 hash at 200 watts total. The mother board watts is the same on both chips. The entire miner is X 4.
@@cyo1987 940 watts total. 68,000 hash. I'll do an update video on 99.9% uptime for 1 month.
i wanna get invested in mining monero. how much did the whole thing cost?
very nice video btw
i didn't understand most of it but its nice
quick q :) why not use linux? Im looking into building a little rig myself, complete noob atm haha
Linux is more reliable. I'm just more familiar with winblows.
Run in ubuntu, the hash rate is better in linux
Wow. Awesome setup. Can I buy it?
nice rig, thinks for the info dude
Thank you for posting the part lists. Very helpful
Just an idea, but you should think about posting Amazon links to get a kick back. I am planning to buy these parts anyway, would have been good to use your links to support your hard work.
Thanks again.
The hardware really hasn't gotten any faster. The new Ryzen chips don't run faster than the 3950 for Random X. I do an update video about the 99.9% uptime this 4X miner has. The guard dog software reboots one of them about once per day. But, they keep on running at 70 deg C.
Great Video!! thanks for the info.
but it is profitable to mine monero right now in april2022 with 4 ryzen 3950x ?
Hello sir,
Im a huge fan of your videos and of XMR as well.
I would love to invest some money into mining also, but im kinda a noob on this point.
I have tried to buy everything on your list, but could only get the 5900x instead. Would that change anything in my order i should be aware of?
use the faster memory that I have on the list. The 5900x should provide the same hash as the 3900x. 12,500 hash running 1.1V and nice and cool CPU. Everything is the same. The stock cooler should be fine for the 5900X, because it only has 12 cores. But, you can run the bigger cooler that I have in specified. I want this rig to run 10 years with minimal maintenance. They key to long life is staying below 70 deg C on the CPU.
Do temperature optimization last. The stock CPU voltage is more stable while you trouble shoot everything on the rig. Once the rig is stable drop the frequency to 3,800 Mhz and the voltage to 1.100V. I suspect the 5900 is the exact same chip as the 3900 (mostly).
So how many coins do you get a month at 70Kh/s?
Can you teach us how to build this exact mining rig?
amazing build! why arent you using any mining os? i am just trying to find the optimal solution.
The mining os charge a fee. Monero seems to have the highest hash rates on winblows operating system. I made this video to make it easier for anyone to mine monero on winblows. But, I could see the advantage of a mining os making it easy to mine many different coins.
@@microdronetech8453 Really? I get about a %5 improvement in a fully optimized linux system compared to a identical fully optimized windows system
Have you tried ragerX USB at all?
this guy paying for windows :) whats the power draw?
Okay, why Windows vs a headless Ubuntu Svr?
How many threads should I use for mining with a 16 core 32 thread AMD Ryzen 9 5950X? I know the system needs thread to operate.
The 5950x looks to be the exact same as the 3950 for mining. Use all 32 threads unless you need to use the machine to run video games or other intense applications at the same time. The miner should default to using all the threads automatically.
My CPU mining rate on nice hash is much lower using the 3950x. I only get like 12/13. Any idea why not higher?
try 4 sticks of ram. maybe nicehash needs to run in admin mode? use all the cores?
Why would you cheap out on the coolers of all things? I'm going to go ahead and assume that those cheap coolers aren't actually built for TR but are just adapted to fit on TR. If you got some NH-U9 or U14S TR4-SP3 coolers you'd be doing a hell of a lot better cooling-wise since the piece that makes contact with the IHS actually covers it and would put the heatpipes in exactly the right spot above the die.
I like that the $26 cooler in the parts list has the heat pipes in direct contact with the chip. Why would putting another layer of aluminum between the chip and the heat tubes be better? Heat transfer is conductance x distance. Copper has much better conductance than aluminum.
Right now I'm running 137 watts thru the chip at 156 deg F inside the chip with the $26 coolers.
Very nice setup, you still running it?
Yep. It does about 1 coin every 45 days.
@@microdronetech8453 sweet
very nice setup!
i accidentally found your video (just thinking about buying 3950x for my pc and randomly watch youtube about cpu)
but conform nicehash calc - 3950x give 1.8$ per day - so - what is the point in such investments in so pricey cpus?
$1.8 per day is $657 per year. There is the CPU payback. 10 years of mining is $6,570. It is profitable. I don't count the electricity because I like the heat in the basement. I don't count the labor because I enjoy building a supercompter.
@@microdronetech8453 >$1.8 per day is $657 per year. There is the CPU payback. 10 years of mining is $6,570
but this calculation is for now - when XMR almost at "all time high"...
but i agree that if "we" think in 10 years - in this period all currency will be at ATH 1-2 time probably...
thank for your answers 🙂
@@microdronetech8453 If you're at home and don't have a dickhead supervisor, it's not labor :D
@@waynefilkins8394 reality is my supervisor. And the marx labor theory of value leaves out that the $6,000 worth of hardware for the miner is not free. Nor is the latest hardware the same as 25 year old obsolete hardware. It takes labor to make the stuff work.
@@microdronetech8453 I meant it figuratively like when people say they enjoy their job so it's not like they are working, ya know? Like the whole work from home thing...I know you're still working and prolly putting in mad hours, I didn't mean it like that. I just meant like it's way better than working a shit job for some dickhead, doing more work than him and getting paid less.
Nice rig... What is your profitability?
$1.86 per day mined. Right at power cost exactly. Monero always seems to hover around power cost. This rig is the most efficient humanly possible.
Where did you get that rack at for the 4 mobos?
I had to make it from 4 GPU frames. I have a video on the mods.
I don't get why people undervolt the CPUs why not just limit the CPU limit in the miner --cpu-max-threads-hint=75%
You can usually use another dns server to avoid the isp blocks. FYI
setup cost vs payback period?
Loki-network could be worth a look vs TOR regards speeds.
Thanks for sharing :)
I'm making $9 per day now. Electric is $2. But, I don't care about the energy because I love the 900 watts of heat in the basement.
@@microdronetech8453 is this rig for sale ?
@@f.e.free4a25 I'm thinking about listing it for $8,000. But, I would just build another one. Payback would be 2.4 years at todays XMR prices. Hardware prices are up though. I'm in XMR for the long haul. Building a rig really isn't that hard. I will try to keep the share folder up to date with any changes I do to this rig. GPU mining was quite a bit harder. My hardware is already paid for. What I like is that XMR can drop down to $60 and I am still profitable with electricity. Can't say the same for Bitcoin since they have no tail emissions.
Is there any cpu mining hosting service?
whats the cost to put a rig like this together?
Much appreciated!
@MicroDroneTech mój Ryzen 3950X leci max 14,000 Hash... Nie wiem co zrobić... Kupiłem nawet RAM 2x 8GB 3200mhz CL14 i max to 14,000 Hash... bo na 2x 8GB 3200mhz CL16 było tylko 12,500 Hash
Tysm for this youre a gigachad
How much all this set up cost you ?
Can you please check the link in the description? it leads to a 404 error. Thanks
I updated the description. TH-cam is playing with the link.
two questions. why not gpu mine other projects and why not Linux due to less overhead
I don't have time for more coins. I just picked one and stay with it. Linux is probably a good idea. I'm just a windows guy. My up time is months with zero downtime. But, the watch dog software does reboot individual boards nearly daily. And, I get texts with every re-boot. I'm running the CPUs at 17,000 hash and 130 watts. They do need to reboot because of instability. That is 132 hash/watt. Nobody has that high efficiency. Running the cpus cool allows them to run for years.
@@microdronetech8453 yeah i never had any issues with windows stability when i used it for GPU mining but i figured you may get a touch more hash out of a Linux distro. i only switched to hive OS for super easy remote access. as far as other coins go if you have them running on xmr already just as well to have the GPU mining kaspa or something. cool set up though man im thinking about getting into CPU stuff now with the merge around the bend.
So you are making like $100/day?
Curious, why would your cable companies block the pools?
The cable companies dont want the bot nets that mine monero.
@@microdronetech8453 im confused as to why, what harm is there?
@@elijahhmarshall bandwidth costs the cable company money.
@@microdronetech8453 yes, but each individual customer has their allotment, what difference does it make if I'm in a mining pool, or streaming 4k video with my allotment?
@@elijahhmarshall good point. They haven't banned the pool I'm on now. I forget the name, but it is in the dropbox on the description. My todo list is to switch to vpn that cant be banned. I will document that. Right now i have months of 100% uptime.
Im having a hard time making sure i get the right equipment, i have everything in my amazon list except the Aurora Colorful Backlit 3Pin 2 Fans 6 Copper Tube Dual Tower CPU Cooling Fan Cooler Heatsink for Intel AMD ... i have 4 alternative options in my cart but not sure if they are 100% compatible...can you provide a similar link to one that i can purchase please
I just updated the fans. The Colorful fans have really bad bearings. The share folder has the latest parts list. The new fans run about 10 deg F cooler too.
Here is the heat sink. banggood.app.link/onN2PNVs3fb
Never mind, this one is cheaper. Use the Arctic fans in the parts list. banggood.app.link/JLkcfw2s3fb
@@microdronetech8453 how does it perform compared with other brands of work the stock cooler?
So how much profit do you make from this
Whats your ROI for this set up?
How much are everything?
Nice you have a lot of cores but what about the threads
2 threads per core. 128 threads total.
What exchange do you use to cash out the monero?
nobody cashes crypto. That is why it keeps going up. There are more buyers than sellers.
So you're mining around $1.50 ish a day
Curious why disable fast boot?
The motherboard will hang on normal boot. That may be fixed now in BIOS though. I haven't tested. The speed difference isn't noticeable. But, the reliability is.
is it possible to GPU mine with RTX3080s at the same time?
Yes. GPU mining uses very little CPU. I used to GPU min 8 Vega 56 cards on a very wimpy CPU. The software is different though. I might get back to GPU mining in the future. However, the problem with the GPU is that ASICS can easily be created to dominate the network. RandomX for monero makes ASICs impossible. So, the network is organic and not manipulated.
thank you bro
What Is the profitability in this setup how much you can earn pr day?
0.02 monero per day.
@@microdronetech8453 can we earn passive income with couple of these rigs
Join monero ocean stream , you will make more xmr.
correctamundo
Tele or Dis?
@@BUY_CRO_BEFORE_1DOLLAR moneroocean.stream mining pool. you mine alt coins and get paid in xmr
yes so much easier than a specialised rig. mine any coin there it auto converts to monero.
Bet
Has Monero paid for this setup yet? I thinking of doing something like this.
Not really on cpu mining. Gpu mining paid for the setup. But randomx is intended for gamers that already own the hardware.
monero making any profit now?
Can it run Minecraft with shaders tho?
Can I cpu and gpu mine on same rig? I have a 3900x idle while the gpu mine vertcoin. 😆
Yep. That should work fine.
Hey could you put up a new link to your parts list and the watchdog script you made? would be greatly appreciated!
The dropbox link is working now. The antivirus software on the server shut down my account when they discovered mining software in it. XMRig exe is flagged as bot software because so many bots run it.
@@microdronetech8453 Thank you!
in the end 15:55 you mentioned about "you hope that rigs running many year" that is even more intrigue. What is the point?
i explain my question (i *really watn get your* point 😉)
*1* -3950x is give 1.78$(48$ month) for now but cost in newegg for example 810$ (in my county it cost 946$...) and we can put 1 cpu per rig
*2* -in dollars 1.78$ for now in ETH is 18Mhs - 18 we can get on every 1060 without overclock but with OC -24Mhs = 2.44$ per day and 73$ per month.
*3* -we can easy put in almost every rig 6-8 GPUs and what we take in ETH -> convert every day to XMR - so this way we can recieve more XMR if you belive in monero and hold monero.
So even on old GTX 1060 wich not so power effective we can getn money representation more XMR, we can day by day change ETH to XMR is we wath hold xmr.... but in gpu mining we can put many GPUs for example if i attentively read description about ASUS ROG Crosshair VII HERO - there are room for 7 GPUs ...
I saw ETH has gone up much more than XMR. This rig previously had 8 x VEGA 56 cards that would currently make $40 per day. I sold those cards 2 years ago for $400 each. They go for $800 today used. XMR pays $9 per day now. I don't have the time to go back to GPU cards. Plus, they are super expensive now. I'll just keep mining monero to the end. I'm running 99.9% up time now for the last month at 68,000 Hash. I'll do an update videos showing the reliability. GPU cards do crash daily. But, the watch dog software I previously ran made them reliable.
@@microdronetech8453 >GPU cards do crash daily
i feel sad that you don't get stable GPUs
@@noname-cp8ki They crash more often when the core voltage is lowered to keep them cooler and save power. It is always a trade off between stability and efficiency.
What's the maximum hash rate we can get while mining XMR?
My sweet spot is 16,500 hash per Ryzen 3950. That hash has the lowest power and the highest reliability.
Good project, but for me you did not do the undervolt well, I have the 3900x mining at 12khs at 64w with 22 threads on at 45 degrees. I recommend use clockTuner for ryzen. regards
my 3900x is using less watts and making more monero on monero ocean. try monero ocean and be amzed. your
chip will go on cryptonight heavy and be a beast
link not working. even manually
Running on 2 3950x and Stripper 2970 getting about 47 h total. In my opinion a water cooler will give me more room to overclock faster job closing than others on same network.. The income is not great on monero due to fluctuations on hash rate. Before investing in equipment do the math. Great video not sure if will be using the watch dog but great work. I agree wifi is not the best way since it fails alot.Im using Cat 8.
Do you stay around 70 deg C on the CPU? I run that temperature with 130 watts going to the CPU and 220 watts total going to each miner. You are getting 35% more hash rate. Openhardware monitor will tell you the power to the CPU by calculation.
Surely an ASIC based miner is a better option?
ASIC is always more efficient. However, the monero devs made random X too complicated to be hardware coded into an asic. The intention was to keep monero as the peoples crypto using gaming computers to support the network and not the elites crypto or the chinese elites crypto.
@@microdronetech8453 this is why Monero RandomX is amazingk!
Any mining noobs watching this, please do not mine in the MineXMR pool, it has a very large hashrate, more than double the next largest pool. Please consider mining in a smaller pool, your profitability won’t change, only the frequency with which you receive payouts. Help DECENTRALIZE the network, not centralize it in a bid to make a quick buck off of your CPUs.
So this MineXMR pool, can you teach me how to set this up. For research purposes of course. I'm writing an essay for my cryptography class 😀
@@SrChalice for Windows or Linux?
hello sir your dropbox link is broken
Сколько майнится XMR за 100 дней?
400 баксов на этой системе как унего
@@walruzperil разве это может окупаться? в чём смысл
well done!
Thanks for the video I'm planning to build such a rig myself, but I'm from Germany and the energy prices here are 0.31 -0.35 kw/h, I have to see how I can make such a rig run more energy-efficiently ^^
I could see the power rate doubling soon in Germany for political reasons. The floor of Monero always seems to be at $0.13 per kw/h as it is today. The network seems to adjust around that floor. In my application, I need the 900 watts of heat in my home from the 4 miners. So, I consider the electricity free. My basement is very comfortable. I don't think there is a more efficient way to run RandomX. I'm saving 250 watts total running the cpu at 1.100V on the miners. Intel has horrible efficiency and the EPYC processors bottle neck the memory. If you find anything more efficient, please share.
Is there a reason why you are using Windows? Linux has lot less over head = less waisted CPU power
How many Moreno can earn one day ?