It's incredibly moving hearing Michigan calling all his soldiers by name or callsign every time he addresses them. He doesn't allow any of his men belittle their own, even when they turn tail. He is too good of a leader, man...
The fact that he knows his men by NAME (even the MT pilots) is showing that he is an amazing leader. Some could say "he in knows their name because it's shown on his display", but no, he even knows their character traits, so he really does KNOW them. His only mistake was giving Arcebus the suppression fleet. That's what probably turned the tide in the Corp war.
Michigan is also the only one besides Rusty that knows 621's skill. He knows when he was going up against him in his last fight he's most likely to die in battle, unlike V.II Snail who is just an egotistical bastard heh. I kind of felt bad when I had to fight against the Red Guns. They are clearly the "good guys" vs Arqubus who seem to brainwash their soldiers to fight for them.
@@TheBlargMarg well, compared to Arquebus they just seem "Less evil" they still don't give a shit about anything, when it's in the way of their profit.
LOOK ALIVE GUN 13 Your mission is to exfiltrate 12 happy meals for the Redguns, you are to ensure the package contains only boys toys or I’ll WELD YOU TO THE PLAYPLACE MYSELF
I love that if he kills you the first thing he does is order up relief teams to help the wounded. Doesn't shit talk you or anything, just cares for his soldiers.
True, and if anything he compliments you. Calling you "the big one" and even mentioning to his own forces that even though you're just a solo AC, you were not to be underestimated.
@@eatenjaguarjaguareaten3367 Exactly, hell even the things he says to the MTs during the fight sound like insults but are him giving actual advice. "Keep your eject ready." "Those of you that run, put it in your journal to get more rifle practice." He knows he's going to lose MTs to you, but he hopes he won't lose pilots. And all he says to the ones who run is to get more training so they can fight next time.
I remember during the dam fight, if you lose to Volta, he tells you he'll kill you if you try that shit again. Based on the bios in the Arena, if 621 survived his loss to Michigan, and was one of the wounded, would he help 621, if they were alive, but wounded?
@@jackdeviant2025 I think it's Volta who tells you that he'll kill you if you try that shit again. Either way, Michigan would have helped 621. I felt bad when I chose the mission to kill Michigan. Arquebus sucks.
"Must've given as good as he got, we can still win this!" And he was right. I was always damn near hanging by a thread when this mission ended. Died several times to the remaining MTs in the field. Rest in peace, Mr. Hell On Four Legs.
Not just their names, he knows their quirks too, which means he actually took the time to get to really know them. Dude is just an old vet who never grew out of his grunt mentality, like a Mustang - old NCOs that picked up Officer commissions but still lives and breaths the grunt life.
You know that line where Michigan tells Iguazu to start a sewing club and sew that damn mouth of his shut? He wasn't just being an asshole. Iguazu was giving away key intel to someone outside Balam (you) and basically telling you the Redgun's next move as a group which is to attack the wall. Obviously Michigan isn't dumb enough to give away free info like that and told him to sew his mouth shut, not because he is annoyed with Iguazu talking but because he was giving away information that should be confidential to people outside of Balam. You can find a good explanation like this almost every single time Michigan is roasting the people under him. He even hires you to look out for his noobs on the dam complex mission even though it's such a simple task.
tbh i often see many some people misunderstood Michigan's character. like he's disrespectful, rude to his underlings. but clearly missing the point. Michigan is actually a caring tough love warrior with a sassy silly mouth. he never really insult down someone out of nowhere especially driven by the ego of being superior. he slanders those of his arrogant pricks of underlings that needs humbling. and just bc he's got trashy mouth doesn't mean that he means it when he jokes around.
yeah the “ass-wiping duty” comment makes more sense now as even the Redguns dont compete with you to destroy the dam generators despite being the ones who actually /need/ to do it
Michigan's underling gets treated way better than Snail's underling. Snail has no problem sending numbered Vespers to their inevitable deaths uninformed, while the Redguns seems to know what mess they're getting into.
He also didn't just shittalk Volta during that mission. As therandomlaniusedward2140 says, he reminds him not to underestimate RLF forces or 621. Michigan prevents Volta from arrogance with bitter commentary, because on battlefield arrogance can kill you.
should include here also when you dont bring the stun needle at the worm mission : "what? you didnt bring it?! G13 YOUR ABILITY TO RUIN MY FIELD TRIPS IS UNCANNY!!!"
I also think it's cool how he's one of the few AC's who uses the stationary shield to give cover to his team as well. almost everyone uses the assault armour or personal shield
I love that he even devalues the importance of going for glory in his dialogue before he drops in for the fight, emphasizing survival over death. Valuing a medal by how far you can throw it is a hell of a statement.
Same. Snail is so much worse though. I really hate that piece of shit. The Liberator of Rubicon ending broke me. It was so damn hard to do, emotionally speaking, but it was so satisfying to kill Snail like that. Snail cares about no one except himself and it's funny to overhear the Vespers talking shit about him, showing that they don't like him much either.
@@raghav1026 It really is. It really shows just how much he's gone off the deep end. Nearly all the Vespers are pretty slimy, but he's the absolute worst.
Someone may have said this, but the Redguns are named after famed lakes/rivers/seas/waterfalls. G1: Lake Michigan G2: Nile River G3: Five Flowers Sea, Jiu Zhaigou, Nature Preserve, China G4: Lake Volta, Ghana Africa G5: Iguazu Falls/River, Brazil G6: Red Lake, Minnesota G7: Ghaggar-Hakra River (India and Pakistan) *G13: Lake Raven, Huntsville Texas
Wow they even have the coolest naming convention. Makes sense with the MT names to Potomac is a river that George Washington crossed during the revolutionary war I think
@@LizarusMoviesYeah but he’s slimy. When you’re ambushing him he’s wary of the way his superior talks about V.II Snail, faking respect for the hierarchy. If you die to him in that same mission after you kill his superior it takes him two seconds flat to think of replacing that same dude. If the opposite happens that dude whose name I can’t remember for the life of me regrets Pater dying and wishes he could have taken his place instead.
@@exia1407finding Volta like that was so sad for me. I was like, wait... this looks famil- oh no... not like this man... you guys should've call me for this...
It should've been an indicator to me that despite Michigan's harshness, he assigns you a calling right off the bat while Pater or snail never did anything similar.
Didn’t notice the one when you take down Iguazu first in the alt dam mission. “Iguazu! How many ranks below you is Gun 13? Take your time, it’s a lot!”
From what I gather, G13 is the trainee rank, since fresh mercenaries don’t usually get to live long, or since most G13s who prove themselves are quickly given a position in the Redguns main ranks, G13 is effectively considered to be the worst Redgun. There’s a good chance that the trainee that was given the job of getting the AC product sample from Dafeng to the Redguns was G13, as the lucky number becomes available right after you kill the trainee in the mission. Effectively, Michigan was telling Iguazu that he expected better from G5 than to lose to G13, a full 8 ranks below. Either that or he expects Iguazu to reflect on why he lost to someone who he should have had an easy time with on paper, and improve in the future. Which Iguazu fails to do, as he hyper fixated on how their augments should give them similar advantages, and based his attempts to deal with 621 on the mentality of “if we keep fighting I’ve got to get at least one win right?” Only to go 0-4 in the Allmind route. 0-5 if you count phase one and two as separate fights, since his AC gets disabled in phase one and he uploads himself into a new one. Not even counting the fact that he loses a handful of un piloted AC’s and two C-Spiders in that fight as well. Not many people are having a good time on Rubicon, but from start to finish Iguazu is having the worst time possible.
Michigan was one of those few rational and grounded characters in the game that I've slowly come to respect through every playthrough. He comes off as rash and arrogant at first, but I've slowly come to understand that this is mostly just on the surface, and he's shown to be a lot more than just that. He's shown to have a lot of pride in his Redguns, but he also doesn't hesitate to take them down a peg or two if they ever started getting cocky, knowing that that kind of overconfidence can result in an early death. He's quick to defend his men's merits, but also just as quick to keep them grounded and never take their opponents lightly. He's also surprisingly pragmatic and rational, as he still offers contracts to 621 even after we mopped the floor with his two most promising rookies back in the dam mission. No further commentary, just treats it as an unfortunate circumstance and moves on. Whenever he raised his voice, it was definitely because someone messed up in what would be considered as "natural" in their line if work (Iguazu accidentally spilling the beans about Balam's plans to raid the wall, Iguazu and Volta(?) Getting overconfident upon seeing Index Dunham's AC, that one MT pilot who thought they can take it easy cause Arquebus only sent in one AC piloted by a mute psychopath against their overwhelming numbers, or 621 when we "forget" to bring our only trump card the Stun Needle Launcher against the Ice worm). Overall, he was a guy I'm finding really hard to hate. While other characters are complex in their ideals and motivations, he's just a simple as a rock. A very solid, sturdy rock, but can still smash your face in. He was the pillar of the Redguns, and I can understand why his men were willing to join him on a one-way trip to hell. Really a shame we couldn't get an ending where we sided with Balam, and eventually break the curse of G13 held over that bunch.
If you destroy the MT squad before Michigan, he has special dialogue. Something along the lines of: "Now it's just you and me Gun 13". Might even have special death dialogue too!
Saddest moment i had in this game was when we had to kill G1 Michigan.... Almost made me cry. Man reminded me so much of my world of warcraft guild leader, man could really rally the people.
"Why don't you start a sewing club together, SO YOU CAN STUTCH THAT DAMN MOUTH OF YOURS SHUT!" Iguazu: (says something) "GUN FIVE! No luck on the sewing club I see?"
The dude just spilled their plan to raid the wall to some rando because he can't help but to gloat. (Their failure to climb the wall might have been partly because Iguazu's loudmouth leaking sensitive info while Walter is listening) Any commander would shut him up, Michigan was nice enough to use jokes for that. And then even after he failed and run away Michigan still keep Iguazu as part of the Red Guns. Most will kick him out or just execute him for that.
Well How would any other field commander react to ones subordinates giving out crucial sortie data to an unaffiliated merc An merc who works for the highest bidder
Its interesting how Michigan and his people talks to each other like they all sounded rude but all has respect with each other, except Iguazu. Michigan talks to Iguazu just as he would anyone, but iguazu clearly isnt respecting or got the hint that michigan care
Iguazu is too much of an asshole and idiot to understand that he had friends and leaders that gave a damn about him. It led him to one disaster after another as a result. He didn't have the skills to be arrogant but was arrogant anyways, right to the bitter end.
To be fair, realistically not everyone will take well to Michigan's style of leadership and such. Iguana's (This is intentional) response to it isn't the healthiest, as I believe most who didn't take well to the method in the past just told him they were leaving or something. Because as far as we know, there may have been members who stuck around and gave it a genuine try, but leaving when they saw it just didn't suit them. Wouldn't find it surprising either if Michigan is more lenient perhaps with those who join the Redguns willingly or at least gave it a chance (Unlike Iguana)
I'd love a Redguns Ending in which all of the Redguns (and G5) live. It'd be a fun underdog story as they work together to take out the Vespers and stuff.
@@romancisar7593yes, apparently there isn't dialogue if you succeed to break the shield without the gizmo, which is definitely a shame and a missed opportunity
I always thought it was interesting in this game that even if you try and murder them they don’t really blame you. They mostly assume you got payed to do it
"best character" is hard because there's Rusty. but he's up there. I love his roasting tendencies, the way he kept complimenting Raven while his army underestimating us. He died a honorable death, RIP Michigan.
Michigan is such a dad, he knows that 621 doesnt have any personal feelings, he knows this is just a job and focuses on protecting his men, and even praise 621 for his skills and warn about it. He cares about every single men in his army and never insult them even he speaks to be jerk outside. Even description of his AC tells that every asset of his will be sent to his fellow colleagues after his death, this shows that he cares about his men a lot. What a chad, im so sorry that he must die through out the mission. He deserves much better than that.
The end of the fight with him is slightly different if you wipe out all of his support before he appears and wipe out the mt support that drops with him before you kill him. He gets support from an additional heavy mt and he directs his last words to you instead.
I don’t know why but I’m so obsessed with “Intercept the Redguns” from a narrative standpoint. At this point, Balam Industries is completely screwed now that Arquebus Corporation possesses the scavenged PCA tech to drive them off-world, pretty much all the Redguns have either deserted or were killed off and many of the lesser grunts and MTs were wiped out by the Watchpoint’s defenses and mass desertions occurring and all G1 Michigan has left of his forces are his most fanatical MT squadrons taking on a pointless mission of trying to take down Raven and hopelessly charge through NEPENTHES. But does he turn tail and run? No, he orders his soldiers to charge into battle against a single pilot of mass destruction (C4-621 Raven/V.IV Rusty) for a hopeless battle in the service of an uncaring corporation and dying senseless deaths on the battlefield, par for the course in the world of Armored Core. Sure, Michigan could’ve read the room and knew this to be a lost cause and joined the withdrawal from Rubicon 3 to face the wrath of Balam’s higher ups for his failure but he’ll be damned if he wasn’t going all in to “bag the big one” and take a shot at eliminating the Wall Climber, the Worm Killer and the only G13 who has lived this long. Even when he dies, does his MT squadron break and try to flee? No, they assert that Michigan gave it his all, stand their ground and continue to fight. If 621 dies, Michigan wastes no time calling in relief teams to the front to tend to the wounded. Even Handler Walter doesn’t sound ecstatic about killing Michigan off, simply telling 621 to get the job done. They must’ve known each other back on Jupiter when Walter was sent there as a boy before the Fires of Ibis erupted. I’m almost reminded of Stannis Baratheon and his ill-fated March to Winterfell from Game of Thrones (TV Series only! Book Stannis is very different and much more successful). Forces depleted from mass desertions and facing overwhelming odds with no hope of victory but goes down fighting. Goddamn, I so wish there was a route to side with Balam all the way, maybe a DLC or “AC6.1” game like For Answer and Verdict Day where we have more options to side with the other factions such as the PCA or BRANCH.
So glad to see everyone loving Michigan. Dude’s easily the best character in the game and brings a personality to Balam that is much needed throughout the story.
I didn't care for them initially, but then Snail started looking down on me and Walter and I quickly grew to hate Arquebus. Snail's English VA does a damn good job at giving Snail such an easy to hate voice. I've heard his Japanese VA and I find him a lot less annoying to listen to. Same for ALLMIND.
True the writing and the way the missions play out is so good the characters feel real even though you don't see them. I also like the fact that you never really communicate with humans and it makes the world feel a bit more cold and bleak with an emphasis on technology. It fits the tone of the game perfectly.
Does anyone else think Michigan would have bailed on Balem if he knew Coral was alive, and one of it's living pieces was inside Raven? Dude seems like he cares about Raven despite Raven being independent. I'm sure he would have been more than happy to put the Xylem in the ground, especially to get a shot at Snail.
I love this mission, if I have one minor nitpick over the campaign is that we didn't get to work with the guns nearly enough. I would have liked a few more missions fighting along side them, feel like we get a ton more time with the Vespers.
A lotta people are talking about how Michigan's abrasive attitude is his way of showing that he cares, such as how he lets the MT squads know they stand no chance against 621 and should keep their ejects primed, and tells anyone who doesn't want to die to pull out of the fight. One thing I'd like to add is how loyal his MT pilots are. When he flat out tells them that joining him in taking on 621 is a suicide mission, to join him "if you've got a death wish", one of his men says "ready to die sir" pretty enthusiastically. That sort of loyalty is kinda ironic in a beautiful way. His way of talking to his soldiers is meant to both inspire them to be better, to have a meaningful impact on the battlefield, but also to focus on surviving long enough to actually see the fruits of their labor, his line about throwing the cobalt medals is him hinting at how a medal isn't worth it if you have to die for it. Yet he inspires them so well that they disregard the latter point of his advice because sticking with him is what makes them feel like they're doing something meaningful.
Agreed. Fires of Raven was sad, but Liberator of Rubicon actually broke me. I was in tears fighting Walter and then actually ugly crying when the credits rolled. Yes, genocide is extremely not good to say the least, but I got very attached to Walter. It hurts worse knowing that he'd been messed with by Arquebus by that point and wasn't actually his true self anymore. Ayre being there begging us not to fight made it even worse. Compare how he struggles to speak when you fight him in LoR vs how he and Carla talk as you clear out the inside of the Xylem in Alea Iacta Est. I was relieved ALLMIND didn't make me fight him again.
I was disappointed that there was no siding with Balam option, imagine leading the charge of the elite MTs in a suicidal Hail Mary assault on Arquebus in the underground facility.
I love how much venom Michigan delivered in the line "I guess Arquebus sent a top Vesper to provide running commentary." obviously it makes sense but you don't often hear him sound like anything else than a drill sergeant.
ya forgot the one where you don't bring the stun cannon to the worm fight. think it's something like "G13 your ability to ruin my field trips is UNCANNY!!"
I'm on my NG+ run, did Liberator of Rubicon ending first. Now going for the other and as of writing this, I've just been sucker punched by Snail after beating the Ibis Series Boss in the Coral Convergence Lake. Gun 1 Michigan was one of the characters that I geniunely liked the most, along with Rusty and a few other obvious ones. One of the reasons is his banter and headstrong personality, but also that he is the perfect opposite to V.II Snail! Snail is a backstabbing, heartless and deluded monster, his Vespers are mere pawns to be used and cast off. Michigan knows the name of all his soldiers, he cares about them all, fulfilling the arcetype of the paternal commander perfectly. The assassination mission made me feel like a damn monster and I absolutely love the way it made me feel. Even if it wasn't a good feeling, I was genuinely moved by his passing. Had I been able to have sided with the Redguns completely, I would have. Even with Gun 5 being a bitch. I've had the Gun 13 decal on my AC's chest since I got it. And there it will stay! This is Gun 13, signing off. HOAH!
I died when that other MT literally did the math and says "2,000 albanys" HAHAHA every michigan dialogue him or roasting his soldiers is really funny like a true commander to his men/women
"Why don't you do the math and tell me how much he's worth?" "G13 is worth 2000 Albanys sir!" "Shut up and get back to fighting!" "SIR YES SIR!" You can feel that he's proud that that soldier answered the question correctly but mad that he's not focusing on staying alive
One of the only fun characters and easily one of the most likeable. Would have loved an ending to side with Balam, just to see Michigan rally G13 like he does his army of MTs at the end. At first he seems like a dick, but he's the best handler of all the faction leaders in how he leads his people.
V.VIII Pater seemed nice in the briefings actually, in that professional but not up his own ass way... but later you learn he's a sociopath and even hear him ordering sending people to "reeducation" camps
When I did his mission the first time it hurt. But what a fight it was. Its almost a shame to let the other guy handle it when i did the Liberator ending the second time around.
i love how some mt's call you a clown & Michigan says that kennebec the only clown there. he basically said he's not clown, don't bother fighting ya'll are fucked.
I think Michigan glitched when I fought him. After his 2nd heal he kept telling Osawa to multiply his rifle training. Felt bad for him tbh. He’ll be good at rifle tho
I day dream G1 Michigan becomes a real hero and joins the Runiconians and crushes Arquebus and then helps out with the igazu matter by smacking some sense into him.
I saw someone propose that instead of killing Michigan and MTs in “Intercept the Redguns”, we somehow convince them to join up with the Liberation Front and fight against Arquebus for a common cause, maybe even forming a mercenary company like the Raven’s Nest from Gen. 1.
@@VictorIV0310 that would be contradictory to the philosophy of the raven’s nest tho. Rubiconians have a solid belief system while Balam are most likely compromised of humans who made the corporate body inorder to survive in the harshest reality on the milkway system, especially earth. Corporations are made up of individuals who share similar interests and they don’t need a governing body of nations anymore since the Great War collapsed all goverment authority to an extent. Due to this the ravens nest was created solely to allow the freedom of choice for their warriors to chose and weave whatever path they want to make. If you took Balam and forced them to be the next raven’s nest then the remaining ravens (aster king and nightfall) would most likely erase you. Ravens have to make up their own mind and it’s their true freedom they have to find.
Didn’t get invested in any fight more than I did against Balam and Michigan. That’s the end I wanted for myself, but 621 wins of course. Felt great fighting so many enemies at once but it felt awful to be killing them. Hard to say if any of the factions fought with honor but it sure feels like Michigan valued it.
on the main plot this wouldnt work because Arquebus is being covertly supported by Allmind(main reason why Balam seems weak in comparison) but as an extra story path this could be a thing afrter what we know of the all mind ending, after all G5 Iguazu has the potential to make contact with the coral conscioness which would spike Allmind's interest in keeping Balam in the fight for Rubicon.
@@Teixas666 Never thought of it that way, but could make it where Balam could of possibly learned of the connection and asked for an alliance to stop it
I wish we got endings for siding with one of the corporations just so I could not be directly or indirectly responsible for every Redgun dying They’re all good people (except arguably Iguazu but given time I think even he would get tired of being so hard-headed and feeling sorry for himself losing everything gambling) I love all the dialogue in the Intercept the Redguns mission because it all does such a great job of showing us what kind of person Michigan is, but I hate doing the mission because I feel horrible side note I’m not sure if I prefer Hell on Four Legs or Mean Ol’ Michigan lmao oh yeah other side note, don’t forget we never even get a single tiny little clue as to what anyone at all in this game looks like (the sketches you can find don’t have much in the way of details) the writing and voice acting just go so hard they don’t need the extra visuals
I also noticed how even Walter respects Michigan in the Attack the Dam complex by offering to pay for Volta's and Iguazu's repairs as well. He could have just said sorry about that but offers recompensation. So much in between the lines.
You know Michigan is a real leader when his men, who are fully aware they're going to die since the Raven just killed roughly 50% of their numbers by the time Michigan deploys, still follows him willingly. Even when he gave them an option to retreat.
Do note: In korean subtitle & Japanese voice/subtitle G1 *Don't* charge extra, but *Exclude* from repair cost as a tuition fee after G4/5 is destroyed. idk what's wrong in eng localization but G1 is even more awesome in non-eng language. In korean & japanese subtitle G1 says more him-like amazing line: Walter: "Michigan, I'll pay the repair costs." G1: "You made this into unlaughable field trip! I'll take it excluding the tuition fee!" It's *Excluding* - unlike eng version. Possibly indicating that he think 621 taught a lesson or two to arrogant G4/5. Totally a good leader.
I really see a wasted potential in Balam group. We have 2 main endings and a «secret» one, but none of them make us side with corps. We burn the Coral and beat corps strategically; side with RLF and beat the corps face to face; side with Allmind and kill everyone including corps... It would be good to have a 3rd main ending where we side with an only corp who don't look like *complete* jerks - Balam. Devs wouldn't even have to do very much. Just to add another turning point mission - not ambushing Vespers or killing Michigan, but defending Michigan from Rusty; make Balam units in University city friendly; and finally, add a few "get in, shoot sh*t, blast something, get out" missions like at the beginning of the game to turn the tide of war. Taking out Xylem mission would need only dialogues change so that we side with Balam instead of RLF. BAM! We get a logical and fun bad ending that fits in pretty good - embracing our merc identity or something like that. Not becoming a hero nor a villain, but staying a loyal mercenary G13 till the end.
It's incredibly moving hearing Michigan calling all his soldiers by name or callsign every time he addresses them. He doesn't allow any of his men belittle their own, even when they turn tail. He is too good of a leader, man...
The fact that he knows his men by NAME (even the MT pilots) is showing that he is an amazing leader. Some could say "he in knows their name because it's shown on his display", but no, he even knows their character traits, so he really does KNOW them. His only mistake was giving Arcebus the suppression fleet. That's what probably turned the tide in the Corp war.
He’s the only guy who can trash talk them no one else lmfao
Michigan is also the only one besides Rusty that knows 621's skill. He knows when he was going up against him in his last fight he's most likely to die in battle, unlike V.II Snail who is just an egotistical bastard heh.
I kind of felt bad when I had to fight against the Red Guns. They are clearly the "good guys" vs Arqubus who seem to brainwash their soldiers to fight for them.
@@TheBlargMarg well, compared to Arquebus they just seem "Less evil" they still don't give a shit about anything, when it's in the way of their profit.
@@Warhammer_loverat the very least the red gun squad (bar Wu Hua Hai and Iguana) is waaaaaaay cooler than the vespers
LOOK ALIVE GUN 13
Your mission is to exfiltrate 12 happy meals for the Redguns, you are to ensure the package contains only boys toys or I’ll WELD YOU TO THE PLAYPLACE MYSELF
Love how he's like "Tell em how big mean old michigan DIED OF A BAD FALL" even in his dying words he went out a chad
I love that if he kills you the first thing he does is order up relief teams to help the wounded. Doesn't shit talk you or anything, just cares for his soldiers.
Yea what a boss.
True, and if anything he compliments you. Calling you "the big one" and even mentioning to his own forces that even though you're just a solo AC, you were not to be underestimated.
@@eatenjaguarjaguareaten3367 Exactly, hell even the things he says to the MTs during the fight sound like insults but are him giving actual advice.
"Keep your eject ready."
"Those of you that run, put it in your journal to get more rifle practice."
He knows he's going to lose MTs to you, but he hopes he won't lose pilots.
And all he says to the ones who run is to get more training so they can fight next time.
I remember during the dam fight, if you lose to Volta, he tells you he'll kill you if you try that shit again.
Based on the bios in the Arena, if 621 survived his loss to Michigan, and was one of the wounded, would he help 621, if they were alive, but wounded?
@@jackdeviant2025 I think it's Volta who tells you that he'll kill you if you try that shit again. Either way, Michigan would have helped 621. I felt bad when I chose the mission to kill Michigan. Arquebus sucks.
"Must've given as good as he got, we can still win this!"
And he was right. I was always damn near hanging by a thread when this mission ended. Died several times to the remaining MTs in the field. Rest in peace, Mr. Hell On Four Legs.
Is there any special dialogues if you die after defeating Michigan?
@@kerbodynamicx472Nah, just Walter sounds disappointed
dude memorizes every MT soldiers' name, and suggest them to retreat from the suicide mission while pretending to be insulting them
Not just their names, he knows their quirks too, which means he actually took the time to get to really know them.
Dude is just an old vet who never grew out of his grunt mentality, like a Mustang - old NCOs that picked up Officer commissions but still lives and breaths the grunt life.
You know that line where Michigan tells Iguazu to start a sewing club and sew that damn mouth of his shut? He wasn't just being an asshole. Iguazu was giving away key intel to someone outside Balam (you) and basically telling you the Redgun's next move as a group which is to attack the wall. Obviously Michigan isn't dumb enough to give away free info like that and told him to sew his mouth shut, not because he is annoyed with Iguazu talking but because he was giving away information that should be confidential to people outside of Balam. You can find a good explanation like this almost every single time Michigan is roasting the people under him. He even hires you to look out for his noobs on the dam complex mission even though it's such a simple task.
tbh i often see many some people misunderstood Michigan's character. like he's disrespectful, rude to his underlings. but clearly missing the point. Michigan is actually a caring tough love warrior with a sassy silly mouth. he never really insult down someone out of nowhere especially driven by the ego of being superior. he slanders those of his arrogant pricks of underlings that needs humbling. and just bc he's got trashy mouth doesn't mean that he means it when he jokes around.
@lettucelad basically saying "don't underestimate your enemy" but a trash talk.
yeah the “ass-wiping duty” comment makes more sense now as even the Redguns dont compete with you to destroy the dam generators despite being the ones who actually /need/ to do it
Michigan's underling gets treated way better than Snail's underling. Snail has no problem sending numbered Vespers to their inevitable deaths uninformed, while the Redguns seems to know what mess they're getting into.
He also didn't just shittalk Volta during that mission. As therandomlaniusedward2140 says, he reminds him not to underestimate RLF forces or 621. Michigan prevents Volta from arrogance with bitter commentary, because on battlefield arrogance can kill you.
should include here also when you dont bring the stun needle at the worm mission :
"what? you didnt bring it?! G13 YOUR ABILITY TO RUIN MY FIELD TRIPS IS UNCANNY!!!"
It's a great line! I was wondering what would happen if you ran the mission without the stun needle. th-cam.com/video/Qua6h4S-u2M/w-d-xo.html
Wish there was dialogue of you beating the lizard without it
Also of when you kill Iguazu first:
"Iguazu! How many ranks below you is Gun 13? YOU CAN COUNT, RIGHT?!"
Dude when the guy actually did the math I was cracking up during the mission lmaoo
2000 Albany's sir!
I fail the mission because I laught too hard LMAO
I love how G1 sings your praises even when you're sent to kill him.
It made me feel so much worse, when he goes “The Wallclimber! The Wormkiller!” My man I did NOT want to cry about robots
I also think it's cool how he's one of the few AC's who uses the stationary shield to give cover to his team as well. almost everyone uses the assault armour or personal shield
I didn't think about that, huh you're probably right
I dont remember does anyone else use it besides him? (In story/arena)
@@darkjackl999 pretty sure dolmayan uses it as well (at least in the arena) and one other who I can't remember but that's about it
ayre uses it too
Michigan doesn’t use a shield but he does use pulse protection. The only AC to use it in the entire game in fact
@@DeidDolmayan has AA its Flatwell who has Pulse Protection
I love that he even devalues the importance of going for glory in his dialogue before he drops in for the fight, emphasizing survival over death.
Valuing a medal by how far you can throw it is a hell of a statement.
probably my favorite line of his.
I felt really bad for killing him. He comes off as a jerk at first but he really cares about his soldiers.
Same. Snail is so much worse though. I really hate that piece of shit. The Liberator of Rubicon ending broke me. It was so damn hard to do, emotionally speaking, but it was so satisfying to kill Snail like that. Snail cares about no one except himself and it's funny to overhear the Vespers talking shit about him, showing that they don't like him much either.
@@SolaScientia god hearing his pathetic scream as he died was so satisfying
@@raghav1026 It really is. It really shows just how much he's gone off the deep end. Nearly all the Vespers are pretty slimy, but he's the absolute worst.
Someone may have said this, but the Redguns are named after famed lakes/rivers/seas/waterfalls.
G1: Lake Michigan
G2: Nile River
G3: Five Flowers Sea, Jiu Zhaigou, Nature Preserve, China
G4: Lake Volta, Ghana Africa
G5: Iguazu Falls/River, Brazil
G6: Red Lake, Minnesota
G7: Ghaggar-Hakra River (India and Pakistan)
*G13: Lake Raven, Huntsville Texas
Wow they even have the coolest naming convention. Makes sense with the MT names to Potomac is a river that George Washington crossed during the revolutionary war I think
@@mysteri0usbr0adcast53 the rubicon is also the river caesar crossed when he invaded rome.
621's Redguns AC 'Tenderfoot' is named after Tenderfoot Creek
its actually so damn sweet that he fricking know every single one of his men and women by name even the MT PILOTS!
Michigan Best chad in AC6.
Rusty being the best partner you could wish for.
2 people being iconic in my list
True. The only flaw is that there is no Michigan ending.
@@mysteri0usbr0adcast53 its a Grey world in AC after all.
i also love V.VIII Pater, always quippy and nice and spot on with his rusty impression
@@LizarusMoviesYeah but he’s slimy.
When you’re ambushing him he’s wary of the way his superior talks about V.II Snail, faking respect for the hierarchy.
If you die to him in that same mission after you kill his superior it takes him two seconds flat to think of replacing that same dude.
If the opposite happens that dude whose name I can’t remember for the life of me regrets Pater dying and wishes he could have taken his place instead.
He's got split personality disorder, so he actually is sad. But then his personality flips. @@treesome3979
When G4 Volta said he had a caring side i didn't expect to see ot first hand.
Wait, where does he say that?
@@doomslayer1252 on operation wall climber, you find his armored coffin with his last message to iguazu
During operation wallclimb. You will find a log on corpse in the City.
@@exia1407finding Volta like that was so sad for me. I was like, wait... this looks famil- oh no... not like this man... you guys should've call me for this...
@matasa7463 not to mention I thought he had a pretty good ac. Zimmer and a songbird on there.
It should've been an indicator to me that despite Michigan's harshness, he assigns you a calling right off the bat while Pater or snail never did anything similar.
Didn’t notice the one when you take down Iguazu first in the alt dam mission.
“Iguazu! How many ranks below you is Gun 13? Take your time, it’s a lot!”
Yea it's pretty damn funny
From what I gather, G13 is the trainee rank, since fresh mercenaries don’t usually get to live long, or since most G13s who prove themselves are quickly given a position in the Redguns main ranks, G13 is effectively considered to be the worst Redgun. There’s a good chance that the trainee that was given the job of getting the AC product sample from Dafeng to the Redguns was G13, as the lucky number becomes available right after you kill the trainee in the mission.
Effectively, Michigan was telling Iguazu that he expected better from G5 than to lose to G13, a full 8 ranks below. Either that or he expects Iguazu to reflect on why he lost to someone who he should have had an easy time with on paper, and improve in the future. Which Iguazu fails to do, as he hyper fixated on how their augments should give them similar advantages, and based his attempts to deal with 621 on the mentality of “if we keep fighting I’ve got to get at least one win right?” Only to go 0-4 in the Allmind route. 0-5 if you count phase one and two as separate fights, since his AC gets disabled in phase one and he uploads himself into a new one. Not even counting the fact that he loses a handful of un piloted AC’s and two C-Spiders in that fight as well. Not many people are having a good time on Rubicon, but from start to finish Iguazu is having the worst time possible.
@@iaini8080And don't forget Allmind calling him a mistake lmao
I almost feel bad for Iguazu.
@@nebulous9280 Big "Almost" XD
I never even heard the volta first line until this vid, volta is such a beast that i always just quickly melt iguazu before he gets involved
Michigan was one of those few rational and grounded characters in the game that I've slowly come to respect through every playthrough.
He comes off as rash and arrogant at first, but I've slowly come to understand that this is mostly just on the surface, and he's shown to be a lot more than just that.
He's shown to have a lot of pride in his Redguns, but he also doesn't hesitate to take them down a peg or two if they ever started getting cocky, knowing that that kind of overconfidence can result in an early death. He's quick to defend his men's merits, but also just as quick to keep them grounded and never take their opponents lightly.
He's also surprisingly pragmatic and rational, as he still offers contracts to 621 even after we mopped the floor with his two most promising rookies back in the dam mission. No further commentary, just treats it as an unfortunate circumstance and moves on.
Whenever he raised his voice, it was definitely because someone messed up in what would be considered as "natural" in their line if work (Iguazu accidentally spilling the beans about Balam's plans to raid the wall, Iguazu and Volta(?) Getting overconfident upon seeing Index Dunham's AC, that one MT pilot who thought they can take it easy cause Arquebus only sent in one AC piloted by a mute psychopath against their overwhelming numbers, or 621 when we "forget" to bring our only trump card the Stun Needle Launcher against the Ice worm).
Overall, he was a guy I'm finding really hard to hate. While other characters are complex in their ideals and motivations, he's just a simple as a rock.
A very solid, sturdy rock, but can still smash your face in. He was the pillar of the Redguns, and I can understand why his men were willing to join him on a one-way trip to hell.
Really a shame we couldn't get an ending where we sided with Balam, and eventually break the curse of G13 held over that bunch.
Dont forget that Michigan is ranked 2nd in the arena. Hes a total badass himself
If you destroy the MT squad before Michigan, he has special dialogue. Something along the lines of: "Now it's just you and me Gun 13". Might even have special death dialogue too!
Saddest moment i had in this game was when we had to kill G1 Michigan.... Almost made me cry. Man reminded me so much of my world of warcraft guild leader, man could really rally the people.
He’s actually the most competent leader in the whole game.
Yea I think so too. I think the only reason why Balam ends up losing is because of G5's OPSEC leaks
Waltuh
"Why don't you start a sewing club together, SO YOU CAN STUTCH THAT DAMN MOUTH OF YOURS SHUT!"
Iguazu: (says something)
"GUN FIVE! No luck on the sewing club I see?"
The dude just spilled their plan to raid the wall to some rando because he can't help but to gloat. (Their failure to climb the wall might have been partly because Iguazu's loudmouth leaking sensitive info while Walter is listening) Any commander would shut him up, Michigan was nice enough to use jokes for that. And then even after he failed and run away Michigan still keep Iguazu as part of the Red Guns. Most will kick him out or just execute him for that.
Him berating Iguazu is the funniest besides his field trip jokes..
Well
How would any other field commander react to ones subordinates giving out crucial sortie data to an unaffiliated merc
An merc who works for the highest bidder
That line will always be funny to me
The man that I would love to be his son.
All of his actions were awesome even if it led to his downfall. He even embrace his death with great dignity!
I'd call him daddy either way
Its interesting how Michigan and his people talks to each other like they all sounded rude but all has respect with each other, except Iguazu. Michigan talks to Iguazu just as he would anyone, but iguazu clearly isnt respecting or got the hint that michigan care
Iguazu is too much of an asshole and idiot to understand that he had friends and leaders that gave a damn about him. It led him to one disaster after another as a result. He didn't have the skills to be arrogant but was arrogant anyways, right to the bitter end.
I think Volta's the ONLY character that even attempts to like Iguazu...fat lot of good it does the poor bastard.
Volta even tells iguazu that Michigan is good to them. "Almost like a family" which really shows in this mission.
To be fair, realistically not everyone will take well to Michigan's style of leadership and such. Iguana's (This is intentional) response to it isn't the healthiest, as I believe most who didn't take well to the method in the past just told him they were leaving or something. Because as far as we know, there may have been members who stuck around and gave it a genuine try, but leaving when they saw it just didn't suit them. Wouldn't find it surprising either if Michigan is more lenient perhaps with those who join the Redguns willingly or at least gave it a chance (Unlike Iguana)
I'd love a Redguns Ending in which all of the Redguns (and G5) live. It'd be a fun underdog story as they work together to take out the Vespers and stuff.
What would have been cool is if your mission choices impacted whether balam or arquebus came out on top, oh well, game is still great anyway
btw did you know that Old Michigan will scold you if you forgot to bring the "Gizmo" during the worm hunt? lol
"G13 your ability to ruin my field trips is UNCANNY"
Omg, you can actually do that? :D :D
@@romancisar7593 yup!! XD XD
@@romancisar7593yes, apparently there isn't dialogue if you succeed to break the shield without the gizmo, which is definitely a shame and a missed opportunity
@@gosukuma9369"Gun 13 making all of us look like fools! GET IN THERE!"
I always thought it was interesting in this game that even if you try and murder them they don’t really blame you. They mostly assume you got payed to do it
Really shows just how harsh it is in Rubicon, and proven what Walter said how you can trust no one on this battlefield
honestly i adore MOST of the characters in this game. i knew i would love mech combat. but the characters in the story actually fucking rock!
i loved walter, "Buddy" ,and ayre
"best character" is hard because there's Rusty. but he's up there. I love his roasting tendencies, the way he kept complimenting Raven while his army underestimating us. He died a honorable death, RIP Michigan.
Michigan is such a dad, he knows that 621 doesnt have any personal feelings, he knows this is just a job and focuses on protecting his men, and even praise 621 for his skills and warn about it. He cares about every single men in his army and never insult them even he speaks to be jerk outside. Even description of his AC tells that every asset of his will be sent to his fellow colleagues after his death, this shows that he cares about his men a lot. What a chad, im so sorry that he must die through out the mission. He deserves much better than that.
G1 Michigan is a real one, he is the only one that truly cares and respects you and others
The end of the fight with him is slightly different if you wipe out all of his support before he appears and wipe out the mt support that drops with him before you kill him. He gets support from an additional heavy mt and he directs his last words to you instead.
Interesting! If you know of a video clipping that, I'd love to see it! 'Course, I can probably find it on my own... eventually.
“You beg for your mother, we’ll give you another!”
Never heard this line and legit spat out my guts 😂
Feels bad that the "real" raven made the choice for you to betray the Redguns. I woulda loved to side with them in one of the endings.
I don’t know why but I’m so obsessed with “Intercept the Redguns” from a narrative standpoint. At this point, Balam Industries is completely screwed now that Arquebus Corporation possesses the scavenged PCA tech to drive them off-world, pretty much all the Redguns have either deserted or were killed off and many of the lesser grunts and MTs were wiped out by the Watchpoint’s defenses and mass desertions occurring and all G1 Michigan has left of his forces are his most fanatical MT squadrons taking on a pointless mission of trying to take down Raven and hopelessly charge through NEPENTHES.
But does he turn tail and run? No, he orders his soldiers to charge into battle against a single pilot of mass destruction (C4-621 Raven/V.IV Rusty) for a hopeless battle in the service of an uncaring corporation and dying senseless deaths on the battlefield, par for the course in the world of Armored Core. Sure, Michigan could’ve read the room and knew this to be a lost cause and joined the withdrawal from Rubicon 3 to face the wrath of Balam’s higher ups for his failure but he’ll be damned if he wasn’t going all in to “bag the big one” and take a shot at eliminating the Wall Climber, the Worm Killer and the only G13 who has lived this long.
Even when he dies, does his MT squadron break and try to flee? No, they assert that Michigan gave it his all, stand their ground and continue to fight. If 621 dies, Michigan wastes no time calling in relief teams to the front to tend to the wounded.
Even Handler Walter doesn’t sound ecstatic about killing Michigan off, simply telling 621 to get the job done. They must’ve known each other back on Jupiter when Walter was sent there as a boy before the Fires of Ibis erupted.
I’m almost reminded of Stannis Baratheon and his ill-fated March to Winterfell from Game of Thrones (TV Series only! Book Stannis is very different and much more successful). Forces depleted from mass desertions and facing overwhelming odds with no hope of victory but goes down fighting.
Goddamn, I so wish there was a route to side with Balam all the way, maybe a DLC or “AC6.1” game like For Answer and Verdict Day where we have more options to side with the other factions such as the PCA or BRANCH.
So glad to see everyone loving Michigan. Dude’s easily the best character in the game and brings a personality to Balam that is much needed throughout the story.
Ill never understand how one man can love field trips so much.
I didn't care too much about the redguns until I swaped to English voices and this guy made me a fan; sucks that we cant help them win the corpo war.
I didn't care for them initially, but then Snail started looking down on me and Walter and I quickly grew to hate Arquebus. Snail's English VA does a damn good job at giving Snail such an easy to hate voice. I've heard his Japanese VA and I find him a lot less annoying to listen to. Same for ALLMIND.
How the fuck do AC6 have so many great characters without even letting us know how they looks like
True the writing and the way the missions play out is so good the characters feel real even though you don't see them. I also like the fact that you never really communicate with humans and it makes the world feel a bit more cold and bleak with an emphasis on technology. It fits the tone of the game perfectly.
Coz’ it’s part of the AC franchise since its inception: no human face shown whatsoever.
Does anyone else think Michigan would have bailed on Balem if he knew Coral was alive, and one of it's living pieces was inside Raven?
Dude seems like he cares about Raven despite Raven being independent. I'm sure he would have been more than happy to put the Xylem in the ground, especially to get a shot at Snail.
I love this mission, if I have one minor nitpick over the campaign is that we didn't get to work with the guns nearly enough. I would have liked a few more missions fighting along side them, feel like we get a ton more time with the Vespers.
A lotta people are talking about how Michigan's abrasive attitude is his way of showing that he cares, such as how he lets the MT squads know they stand no chance against 621 and should keep their ejects primed, and tells anyone who doesn't want to die to pull out of the fight.
One thing I'd like to add is how loyal his MT pilots are. When he flat out tells them that joining him in taking on 621 is a suicide mission, to join him "if you've got a death wish", one of his men says "ready to die sir" pretty enthusiastically.
That sort of loyalty is kinda ironic in a beautiful way. His way of talking to his soldiers is meant to both inspire them to be better, to have a meaningful impact on the battlefield, but also to focus on surviving long enough to actually see the fruits of their labor, his line about throwing the cobalt medals is him hinting at how a medal isn't worth it if you have to die for it.
Yet he inspires them so well that they disregard the latter point of his advice because sticking with him is what makes them feel like they're doing something meaningful.
his delivery of the throwing of said medals though made me laugh a little when i first heard it.
Iguazu: I'll stay back and watch
Michigan: TO THE FRONT LINES YOU GO, BITCH BOI!
Man, these characters deserve better than just being Faceless cannon fodder. Then again, that would make the endings hurt even worse
MT pilots:
Agreed. Fires of Raven was sad, but Liberator of Rubicon actually broke me. I was in tears fighting Walter and then actually ugly crying when the credits rolled. Yes, genocide is extremely not good to say the least, but I got very attached to Walter. It hurts worse knowing that he'd been messed with by Arquebus by that point and wasn't actually his true self anymore. Ayre being there begging us not to fight made it even worse. Compare how he struggles to speak when you fight him in LoR vs how he and Carla talk as you clear out the inside of the Xylem in Alea Iacta Est. I was relieved ALLMIND didn't make me fight him again.
Dehumanisation by conflict is a common theme in all armored core games
I love how despite being enemies he still praises those who betrayed him.
I was disappointed that there was no siding with Balam option, imagine leading the charge of the elite MTs in a suicidal Hail Mary assault on Arquebus in the underground facility.
I want them to win the Coral and I want to help them dance on Arquebus' graves while they do it!
I love how much venom Michigan delivered in the line "I guess Arquebus sent a top Vesper to provide running commentary." obviously it makes sense but you don't often hear him sound like anything else than a drill sergeant.
Read his arena description as well. Dude is awesome.
Honestly, the worm mission would be so boring without my man Michigan.
Classic drill sergeant type of character- rough and cruel on the outside, but really caring for his men on the inside.
Him interupting that snob Snail was the best.
Fuck snail all my homies hate snail
@@mysteri0usbr0adcast53you'd have to be all kinds of fucked in the head to even slightly like snail
ya forgot the one where you don't bring the stun cannon to the worm fight. think it's something like "G13 your ability to ruin my field trips is UNCANNY!!"
i like how the red gun commander actually recognized G13 as a real dangerous individual
I'm on my NG+ run, did Liberator of Rubicon ending first.
Now going for the other and as of writing this, I've just been sucker punched by Snail after beating the Ibis Series Boss in the Coral Convergence Lake.
Gun 1 Michigan was one of the characters that I geniunely liked the most, along with Rusty and a few other obvious ones.
One of the reasons is his banter and headstrong personality, but also that he is the perfect opposite to V.II Snail!
Snail is a backstabbing, heartless and deluded monster, his Vespers are mere pawns to be used and cast off.
Michigan knows the name of all his soldiers, he cares about them all, fulfilling the arcetype of the paternal commander perfectly.
The assassination mission made me feel like a damn monster and I absolutely love the way it made me feel.
Even if it wasn't a good feeling, I was genuinely moved by his passing.
Had I been able to have sided with the Redguns completely, I would have.
Even with Gun 5 being a bitch.
I've had the Gun 13 decal on my AC's chest since I got it.
And there it will stay!
This is Gun 13, signing off.
HOAH!
not to mention snail is an elitist pig fucker with an ego larger than jupiter.
I died when that other MT literally did the math and says "2,000 albanys" HAHAHA every michigan dialogue him or roasting his soldiers is really funny like a true commander to his men/women
I love the sewing club burn to G5. Still one of favorite quotes.
All of his quotes are my favorite
*“I know just the person to go poke that beast with a stick”*
The amount of humor in that line is immaculate 😂
Pokes the ice worm with a pile bunker
He's almost like TF2 soldier, smarter
He's the TF2 soldier without the mental illness
@@mysteri0usbr0adcast53 WHO TOUCHED MY GUN!
"Why don't you do the math and tell me how much he's worth?"
"G13 is worth 2000 Albanys sir!"
"Shut up and get back to fighting!"
"SIR YES SIR!"
You can feel that he's proud that that soldier answered the question correctly but mad that he's not focusing on staying alive
One of the only fun characters and easily one of the most likeable. Would have loved an ending to side with Balam, just to see Michigan rally G13 like he does his army of MTs at the end.
At first he seems like a dick, but he's the best handler of all the faction leaders in how he leads his people.
Sounds like every drill sergeant
rusty is more likeble for me but i get your point
and snail is the most likeble for me obviously, what a nice guy
@@gillsejusbates6938sure I totally believe you
V.VIII Pater seemed nice in the briefings actually, in that professional but not up his own ass way... but later you learn he's a sociopath and even hear him ordering sending people to "reeducation" camps
Damn it fromsoft why didn't you let me slide with balam!? I wanted to save them. ALL OF THEM! ;-;
Best man in ac6
tru
Only person who can rival him is rusty
@@Venom_Snake84-t7z he's my second pick
What about ayre?
@@bananagoose2469 she's in a different category 😅
When I did his mission the first time it hurt.
But what a fight it was. Its almost a shame to let the other guy handle it when i did the Liberator ending the second time around.
Michigan was the best hypeman we had.
I wouldve joined him in a heartbeat if we had the choice
God I fucking love Michigan
i love how some mt's call you a clown & Michigan says that kennebec the only clown there.
he basically said he's not clown, don't bother fighting ya'll are fucked.
Kennebec is a fucking noob
I think Michigan glitched when I fought him. After his 2nd heal he kept telling Osawa to multiply his rifle training. Felt bad for him tbh. He’ll be good at rifle tho
I day dream G1 Michigan becomes a real hero and joins the Runiconians and crushes Arquebus and then helps out with the igazu matter by smacking some sense into him.
I saw someone propose that instead of killing Michigan and MTs in “Intercept the Redguns”, we somehow convince them to join up with the Liberation Front and fight against Arquebus for a common cause, maybe even forming a mercenary company like the Raven’s Nest from Gen. 1.
@@VictorIV0310 that would be contradictory to the philosophy of the raven’s nest tho. Rubiconians have a solid belief system while Balam are most likely compromised of humans who made the corporate body inorder to survive in the harshest reality on the milkway system, especially earth. Corporations are made up of individuals who share similar interests and they don’t need a governing body of nations anymore since the Great War collapsed all goverment authority to an extent. Due to this the ravens nest was created solely to allow the freedom of choice for their warriors to chose and weave whatever path they want to make. If you took Balam and forced them to be the next raven’s nest then the remaining ravens (aster king and nightfall) would most likely erase you. Ravens have to make up their own mind and it’s their true freedom they have to find.
S ranking "Intercept Redguns" was a nightmare 😅
Michigan was too good for Balan. We should all strive to act in such a manner.
Ah, I never thought about luring them toward the Tetrapod MT.
I want a 4th ending for the Redguns. Like they ditch Balam and decide to do right by Rubicon by fighting on your side against the corporations.
Whoever takes out G13 gets to take home a Balam Cobalt Medal. They’re good too!
They go really far when you throw ‘em.
Michigan is the rude sounding guy who's actually a great dude. Snail is the nice sounding guy that's actually an asshole.
Disagree. Snail's nasal, whining voice automatically makes him the worst.
Pater is the nice sounding one of the vespers, snail is a total shitstain from start to finish. his mother should have aborted him.
Funny enough his VA is the same of Pod 042
That is some range
You're talking about the guy from Nier Automata right? Crazy.
Ik Walter's VA also voiced Dio in English
@@wrasse1155 Yep and Ayre in JP is Joylne like this is indeed a Bizzare Adventure
"The answer's 2000 Albanys, sir!"
Anytime he talks it’s a good time
This is the only mission I haven't done. 3 playthroughs and this is it...
Yea I couldn't bring myself to do it on the first play through. He kicked my ass several times getting this footage lol
@@mysteri0usbr0adcast53This mission was the hardest non-boss mission for me. It took me like 1 hour 😢, but I felt really sad after killing him.
LOOK ALIVE MAGGOTS!
I betrayed them and possibly had the hardest fight in the game! They fuck you up! 😅😅
Yea I have recordings of being killed by him like 6 times that level is fucked up but definitely fun to manage the waves as they are coming in.
Oh wow, there's actually dialogue for Michigan during the worm fight if you don't meet the damage threshold between railgun shots.
Didn’t get invested in any fight more than I did against Balam and Michigan. That’s the end I wanted for myself, but 621 wins of course.
Felt great fighting so many enemies at once but it felt awful to be killing them. Hard to say if any of the factions fought with honor but it sure feels like Michigan valued it.
I love when you kill Iguana first in the dam raid. Easily one of my favorite lines in game
I just want a DLC where we can side with the REDGUNS. Would always join
on the main plot this wouldnt work because Arquebus is being covertly supported by Allmind(main reason why Balam seems weak in comparison)
but as an extra story path this could be a thing afrter what we know of the all mind ending, after all G5 Iguazu has the potential to make contact with the coral conscioness which would spike Allmind's interest in keeping Balam in the fight for Rubicon.
@@Teixas666 Never thought of it that way, but could make it where Balam could of possibly learned of the connection and asked for an alliance to stop it
Michigan is a good leader
Damn😢
😭 Why did you make me kill him Michael Zaki
i had to beat the remaining MT's to death with my fists because i had no ammo left and no melee weapons
Me: "Any ending where you don't need to fight Michigan and he still lives is a happy ending to me"
Fromsoft: we don't have happy endings
I swear to god, the attack the redguns mission is so hard i had to bloody go duel mini-guns and some morelys just to finish the fight.
I wish we got endings for siding with one of the corporations just so I could not be directly or indirectly responsible for every Redgun dying
They’re all good people (except arguably Iguazu but given time I think even he would get tired of being so hard-headed and feeling sorry for himself losing everything gambling)
I love all the dialogue in the Intercept the Redguns mission because it all does such a great job of showing us what kind of person Michigan is, but I hate doing the mission because I feel horrible
side note I’m not sure if I prefer Hell on Four Legs or Mean Ol’ Michigan lmao
oh yeah other side note, don’t forget we never even get a single tiny little clue as to what anyone at all in this game looks like (the sketches you can find don’t have much in the way of details)
the writing and voice acting just go so hard they don’t need the extra visuals
I also noticed how even Walter respects Michigan in the Attack the Dam complex by offering to pay for Volta's and Iguazu's repairs as well. He could have just said sorry about that but offers recompensation. So much in between the lines.
i thought that was just walter being an ass
You know Michigan is a real leader when his men, who are fully aware they're going to die since the Raven just killed roughly 50% of their numbers by the time Michigan deploys, still follows him willingly. Even when he gave them an option to retreat.
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The Answer is 2000 Albanys, Sir!
Do note: In korean subtitle & Japanese voice/subtitle G1 *Don't* charge extra, but *Exclude* from repair cost as a tuition fee after G4/5 is destroyed. idk what's wrong in eng localization but G1 is even more awesome in non-eng language.
In korean & japanese subtitle G1 says more him-like amazing line:
Walter: "Michigan, I'll pay the repair costs."
G1: "You made this into unlaughable field trip! I'll take it excluding the tuition fee!"
It's *Excluding* - unlike eng version. Possibly indicating that he think 621 taught a lesson or two to arrogant G4/5. Totally a good leader.
That's amazing lol Thanks for sharing the translations
man i love this guy
I really see a wasted potential in Balam group. We have 2 main endings and a «secret» one, but none of them make us side with corps. We burn the Coral and beat corps strategically; side with RLF and beat the corps face to face; side with Allmind and kill everyone including corps... It would be good to have a 3rd main ending where we side with an only corp who don't look like *complete* jerks - Balam.
Devs wouldn't even have to do very much. Just to add another turning point mission - not ambushing Vespers or killing Michigan, but defending Michigan from Rusty; make Balam units in University city friendly; and finally, add a few "get in, shoot sh*t, blast something, get out" missions like at the beginning of the game to turn the tide of war. Taking out Xylem mission would need only dialogues change so that we side with Balam instead of RLF.
BAM! We get a logical and fun bad ending that fits in pretty good - embracing our merc identity or something like that. Not becoming a hero nor a villain, but staying a loyal mercenary G13 till the end.
God I Love Michigan, he reminds me of the general from Monsters vs Aliens. I imagine he looks like him too.
Balam cobalt medal. Goes real far if you throw 'em 😅 I don't know why but that's hilarious
It probs meant that a medal is worthless cause at the end of the day, your real prize after the fight is to live another day
Yea you shouldn't be fighting for medals. GUN THIRTEEN SOUND OFF
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