Credit to Spoony for letting me use the footage. Check out the full review here: th-cam.com/video/yhVebMrpFqU/w-d-xo.html Something a little different today folks as we touch upon Spoonys review and i give you my thoughts! Be sure to leave your impressions on the state of the game below!
Respect to Ricky for speaking out about efootball and Konami, just proves he cares more about the quality of the game rather than being close to them to get free stuff.
Yh it's crazy because he could've been a lot closer with Konami after that casting/commentator role he had a few years back (which I kinda wish he did). Instead he loved the game and was critical of it and Konami as per usual didn't like it and cut him off pretty much. Sad reality.
Been playing Konami football games for over twenty five years. eFootball is a shite, soulless, casino styled cash cow. Konami used to replicate the beautiful game, now they replicate the ugly one, the one that has sold its soul for dollar dollar bills y'all. On PS5 I play the PES 2019 Update (PES 2021) with the PES universe option files, and enjoy it infinitely more than the decaying corpse of eFootball. I remember queuing outside of Woolworths each year waiting for them to open, so I could go in and buy the latest ISS or PES. I even ordered a Japanese copy of Winning 11 from Japan, and had to get a Japanese dictionary from the library, all because Gamecube didn't release a PES. My loyalty was solid to Konami, now though I pray for a developer to make a quality game and push Coinami totally out of the market. FCUK eFootbollock. Long live PES.
Exactly what I’ve been saying since they first released this pile of shit. Imagine as a business person… you’re selling a low value product yet you’re still making profit and millions off it, would you even bother trying to fix it?
@@leonardo_da_g9168 Ethically and morally yes, but that doesn't seem to come into the equation at this point. If it's making money; they don't seem to care....
Exactly! If people stop spending money on those stupid cards Konami would immediately change their strategy. The best way to hurt them is to aim to their wallet
@@leonardo_da_g9168You have to look at it from their perspective: From the point of a manager they did everything exactly right! It‘s on the customers to answer to that - but people are lazy, greedy and weak. That‘s why their strategy works 🤷♂️..
I play on manual and i agree with absolutely everything you said. The game is so fucking automated. Dribbling against epic p2w cards is literally impossible. They make the tackle even without pressing any buttons. 99% of players play quick counter and spam pa1 ping pong passes all game without thinking. And the worst thing is that it works. Nobody plays out wide, long ball. Playstyles are not balanced at all. Only good thing about this game is friendly coop with good teammates and normal opponents who want to play real football I remember in older pes games you actually had to spend a week or two learning how to play, scoring goals was hard, creating chances was hard, defending was difficult too. Now the game holds you by hand and does everything instead of you. It is also so fast, it is becoming like fifa. 0.9 version was so much better
The biggest problem with this game is the mobile players ( after Konami ofc). These idiots go out there and spend money pretty much every time they log in to the game. Literally search up efootball mobile and 75% of the videos are pack openings. I don’t have the proper tools for it but I would argue that the Mobile version brings in more money than console version at the moment. Until the mobile players stop spending money on the game, Konami won’t fix shit. After all, Efootball is a mobile game
@@5iker_ play matches , literally. Or make different squad ideas like 3 stars, 4 stars or even 2 stars. I once did a dreadlocks fc team, there’s so much more these days”content creators “ can do than just opening packs
@@leonardo_da_g9168 I have never spent a single dime in this game all I do is play matches, anything that doesn't evolve money. I play the my league, I play the offline events. I want to do something different not repeating everything ive don't for years.
Konami completely ignores player feedback, and efooball is lack of realism that has completely become an enlarged version of the mobile game. This is why traditional PES players are still playing pes2021.
Just corporate greed. I tried to gather people on Reddit to try and do something about it, most people are not interested, in fact - they downvote and criticize you with that same argument - ''It's free, just don't play''. I regret spending 11 euros on this game, I tried to justify it to myself somehow like it owe it to Konami for being a fan of PES for many years, but maybe that was just the gambler in me finding an excuse. It's a pay to win game but even worse, the scripting is insane, you are playing against the opponent and the game a lot of the time. There are no modes, no listening to feedback, they add OP players and pay to win skills all the time, it's horrible.
I played Winning Eleven when I was a kid. Since PES 2010 I played every year. I have thousands and thousands of hours in this game. Well over 25k. I have played all game modes, everything this games had to offer. Nothing got ever fixed. Every thing stayed the same since forever. But after rebranding and trust me when I say this: This game is dead. Dead and burried 3 meters underground. Time to give up. I already did.
i stopped playing football games a long time ago cuz there is no point anymore its just a waste of time and a lot of emotional damage remembering how good they were back in the day whenever u play a current football game
Thats complete bull, EAFC is much better than previous games ever were, honestly go back and play them, they suck so much ass, its just nostalgia that makes you think they are better than todays game
I think what he means by animation brought over from core engine does not mean the game is not running on Unreal engine and more towards the fact they were animations or code that was brought over from the previous engine which obviously means it wasn't optimized or refactored to run better. I do think that even if Unreal is a good engine, it's not exactly an engine made solely and dedicated for a football game that one could easily create a good football game from especially when the Fox Engine had already improved a lot before they decided to switch engines. It was a mistake to switch so quickly to Unreal even if the benefit being that development was faster. They should have continuously sell and update Pes 2020 with new seasons while they make a free version of Efootball that uses Unreal which they try to improve over time to reach closer to PES 2020 gameplay and when it's good enough, have it replace PES.
I first played a Konami football game in the late ‘90’s. I have every single copy since 2006. My favourite is 2021. And that’s it for me. I was a huge fan. Bought every single copy on day 1. What is wrong with those people at Konami?
Ricky it’s a double edge sword with feedback. Before V1.0 everyone complained that the defending was too hard so V1.0 comes out and suddenly it’s AI assisted defending making tackles for you and moving your defenders into position? So Konami listen when it’s designed to make this a noob friendly experience. Meanwhile us Veteran PES players are just being ignored. I’ve got a theory, Konami don’t actually update the game. They just tweak certain aspects of it to make it at times unplayable and almost fully automated so that when the big August/September update comes out and they put things back to a normal level, everyone will think it’s an improvement meanwhile the game hasn’t actually evolved at all. We just go in circles and Konami sell more coins. When I start seeing this game improving visually graphics wise I’ll know they are actually putting in real work to make this a decent game. In the 2 years it’s been out it hasn’t changed graphically and I’d argue it’s gotten worse gameplay wise too. Also let me just add that all these people whining that they want Master League and bragging that they don’t spend money on coins haven’t bought a PES title in 4 years so who do you think is funding the development of that Master League? It’s people still spending money on this game. I don’t shame people for spending money on this game. If they find enjoyment in it and it’s their money sure go ahead. Think about that before you go down that route of trying to shame people for that.
Going from people trying to make a football game and those that do it seem to be that football games are very difficult to build. People have very different ideas of what they like . You have the dribbler who want to be able to do ridiculous stuff . The fine line between game breaking or game making with skills alone should give people an idea. I grew up playing it and people making up alot of faults to justify losing ( I played in 3 online Leagues ) this alone makes it hard to know. There are many things people just don't Learn to do too. Am not saying it perfect game. But a little like prem league, people moaned so much they ended up with Var ( it will be scrapped for 25 season ) I would pay double even triple to have a PES 24 tho. A couple of streamers I caught out and one I took to task made and apologise video. They were moan about game live ,so I watch video back and he would do thing like kick the total opposite way to which he was facing, then go mad when it cause him to lose a goal. What was more telling was his comment section during and after. No one said hang no you were face opposite way or you could done xyz It was just the game is shit ,you can't win. Players poor reaction to losers was and is a real issue. Grown men on the leagues I would play against would talk so much nonsense about game and while it not perfect it was never as broken as people made out.
I think you're mistaken about the issues being purely technical, like with engines. Instead, the approach should be psychological. Consider this: "These guys are acting strangely; let's revamp and improve the game. But what about the current userbase that's happy with it? The game made $3 billion last year." (suddenly , the idea does not make sense to the decision makers as their only metricc is $) Such games need to hit rock bottom to innovate. Unless the fix is easy, they won't bother since they're already profiting even from dissatisfied customers.
Great video, you said it all, emphasized the right things, straight to the point... plus some information about the game engine it uses... in my opinion, in this video, you provide an essential critique/review of this game, this video is enough to understand the essence of the game, the company's aspirations, and objectively assess all its flaws, but also dispel some prejudices regarding the bugs in the game. Bullseye, the smartest review so far, in my opinion...well done
As someone that knows about game development I think it’s good to clear up that you can’t run and engine in an engine, what they mean is the core code and how they call each animation etc is pulled over. Essentially they’ve copied the blueprints of the house but are building it with different materials (unreal engine). This means there will be inherent issues if they’ve coded something into a corner and they’ll have to literally re-design many things from scratch to get real change everyone is after.
thank you someones saying this!!, these are reaccouring problems in football games. company's find a formula and stick with it and change everything around the actual game like loading screens, packs, cards and all other minor things that have nothing to do with football in a FOOTBALL game. I would love to see something like UFL come out and be different but I doubt it unfortunately. personally we need a football manager but with the graphics of fifa in game and a mix of fifas fluidity and pes pace, tactics & passing in gameplay but without that jankyness... but I don't develop games and I don't know how difficult that really is (I'm sure its not easy) but from a fan point of view I remember 10 years ago playing fifa and pes and being like in 10 years these games are gunna be like playing football at home, they don't, it actually feels like both of them stayed completely the same since and made minor improvements year by year until now we are all bored and sick of the same shit on repeat.. I guess if anyone reads this and runs a gaming studio.. make a FM that I can play the games and it look like fifa but play football. NOT arcade football. at a real pace with with real tactics.. u got my £70+ every year
Free to play is a bollocks argument anyway. For most if not all f2p. Cause there's always pay2win mechanics. So it's bs and only idiots use it as an argument. Plus like you said, your time aswell is worth something. Your time isn't free. Ppl who think it is have way to much on there hands. Bs. Your right man. What idiots put that argument are just muppets 😂😂
I've said this for years about fifa regarding engines. Fifa "switched" to the frostbite engine but people don't know its the visual engine not the gameplay engine. So people were somehow surprised that the gameplay didn't change. Fifa's gameplay engine I believe is still the engine from 2008 fifa. Same is possible with e football. U4 is the visual engine but they didn't migrate the gameplay engine.
@@chuckychip4060 The gameplay remained the same though. It's a lot harder than you think to completely switch engines. The visuals changed but the gameplay stayed the same. A full engine change would have drastically changed the gameplay. I'll give you an example. When Fifa switched to a new engine in 2007 from the PS2 FIFA to the PS3 FIFA, the gameplay was completely different but the game had no content and only a few stadiums. Despite the PS2 on the old engine having tons of stadiums. Rockstar switched engines from Renderware to the Rage engine in GTA and the gameplay was completely different. We never saw such a change wth the ignite engine to the frostbite engine. It still had all of the same content and the gameplay stayed the same. This suggests it was only the visual engine that changed.
there are no new animations in this that were not in pes21,infact there are less animations in this game than older pes games,, they just ported it over from fox engine, to unreal mobile engine why its so bad. remember that teaser they gave us years ago with messi on the unreal 5, conami.
I’ve gone back to pes 2016, it’s the only pes I have on ps5 available. It’s annoying not having the current player base. But besides that I prefer it to ea go manager mode and well there’s no point in playing my league for one season and then going back to the start. Probably will end up saving for a laptop/pc that can run football life. Not a good time to be an offline mode player.
I play pro evo since was born aka iss....i have said over a year now that pro is dead i cant understand why bother anymore its a waste of energy....move on... P.s i know there is nowhere to move on😂😂😂 but cross fingers for 2kfifa....
I'm still playing pes 20, but I just don't have all the option files. But the game is still better than current games. Fifa 17 is another game that is still worth playing, and then the fifa games just got worse. It would be nice to get a really good soccer game with the latest lineups etc. It's weird how 2K can't make a decent soccer game.
Yep, and the thing is whilst it may be free to play, that doesn't excuse the shortfalls. Nobody asked for it to become FTP, just put out a good premium football game with a price tag. The problem is that a 'good' version of this game doesn't exist whether that be FTP or paid, it's the fact of the matter.
Not really, you just wouldn’t have anything period. Fact people spend means we still have something to play. You should be thanking those people not ridiculing them
I only play this game because fifa is shit i dont like the fast pace turning and dribbling on fifa we don't really have an option for footy games and yes this game is also shit , I'm an online player who uses manual on ps5
What a once wonderful game. I do like the mods as I’ve been watching another channel called Trevor Sports that are playing Efootball using the kits from 1996/97 season.
I've played efootball since the launch of v 1.0 and my opinion, in the start was that it was a decent, skill based football game, but unfortunatelly, as time passed by it just got dumbed down and dumbed down and dumbed down...... But learning now, that it has not been moved to UNREAL engine, mind you, May 10th, the boycot day, was actually my first day without efootball since v 1.0, I honestly say that I will NEVER turn this game on, until they move it to a new engine, as promised back in 2020. which is when we got the season updated game, so, so long until this game is fixed.
He was the only guy on TH-cam who brought it all on point!! That's why he deserves all the respect 🙏 i would have loved to do it if I know how to do videos 😂so he is the man.
What happened to your contacts at Konami dude? You went on a trip to their office in CA right? Are they giving you any insights on what is happening? The situation is terrible for Sports games. Everything is going online. Apparently BIG Ant studios the makers of Cricket 2024 are going to introduce a Card/Coin/XP crap mode.
If they give efootball an offline mode realistically can smokepatch release another football life with the efootball engine. Im sick of no call collisions and no pentalties
I play one or two games against the AI event teams and then stop playing, I’m good after that. I used to play the rank league in D1/2 and just got tired of facing the exact same meta formation with teams worth over €3000 … literally. Couldn’t wrap my head around the average user paying that for players but I guess a large number of players still do 😂
Ive been playing since ISS, seen the highs and lows of PES. Comes a time where you just have to let it go and detach any emotions of past additions. I do agree however that on Full Manual it's decent to play.
You are one of the very few youtubers speaking against what this game has become 👏. The handicap, the p2w and the bugs makes it laughable, I already gave up. Not playing anymore.😤
E is Still a million times better than FC24, at least I don’t have to pay a hundred dollars every year to lose my ultimate team. These content creators are hilarious.
No way efootball tries to copy from fifa, look at the speed the ball goes in the net, even the controller settings is saying , dash instead of run, efootball is worst man, PES is the ideal game
As soon as they dropped the announcement that efootball would focus more on online gaming and not include any kind of career mode i already knew it was gonna be the franchises downfalls. Unfortunately i only got fed up with fifa some like 5 years ago. Still play pes 21 to this day with many mods and its so much more rewarding in terms of gameplay. Shame they then fcked up the franchise :/
UFL comming to PS5 i XBox, I hope for porting to PC later. After UFL release many players will definitely drop eF and FC. Unfortunately loosing money which players pay2win on spins is the only way leading to some conclusion for Konami. Finaly they interested in our money not our opinions or even game quality itself. Anyway... thank You for You reviews. I agree with everything You said about the game and understand the disappointment over eF.
Really is a sad state of affairs with this game, i use to be a part of 2 big pes communites, one was a full 11 aside full manual league, hundreds of players, they have all gone to fifa now, and the other was a full manual league set up with a transfer window ect, again hundreds of users. Both these communities have now gone
It being free doesn't change that fact it's a bit naff, nor affect any criticism of it. And we must criticise if we ever want to see things grow in the right way and improve. You wouldn't want to pay good money for this, and if Konami don't care, why should we?
I have given up on Konami... I play modded EA FC 24 with realistic sliders, manual passing and I enjoy it. The game is responsive and it does exactly what I want. Yes, the dribbling is terrible, but somehow I got over it...
Ive played PES/ISS from the very start, and the games were always the best representation of football, up until EFootball... konami are just greedy and dont give a fuck, i refuse to play this piece of shit, il just stick to mainly the ps2/ps3 iterations..some of the ps4 versions are decent, but no match for the peak ps2 games.
Im a manual player,i have to say ,all these issues are there on manual,player freezing,terrible response times,all what ricky has said are there,. When the game plays well though lads,try full manual,its where this game shines. Fix the bloody game konami
They’re just not interested in making a good game. They’re interested in making you frustrated so you buy coins. They made PES 2013 12 years ago, PES 2019 was pretty decent too, but already headed in this coin buying direction, gameplay wise. Hoping for better gameplay is a pipe dream.
I suggest u play fc 24 now. They have diversified the ai based on teams with last 2 updates. Now the ai on legendary difficulty don't tiki taka as much.
See I was right all along. I called this years ago on the launch of EF 2023 so 1 year after release everyone telling me I'm wrong it's on UE4 😂 konami say something people believe it 🤷🏻♂️ the games always been on fox I believe the online test wasn't on fox as it was completely different.
I’m frequently between division 1 and 2 and I can guarantee you that I never spent a single penny on this game. I refuse to that. If they fix this o can think about it. Otherwise not a single cent.
I stopped playing. To be honesty t i play the old games, not just PES but other stuff from PS1 era and PS2. Even the arcady stuff plays with personality, at least it was all you and mastering controls etc. Once you got the hang of it you felt a sense of achievement. Football games are dead, online gaming killed it. It used to be that once apon a time companys wanted to invent an addictive game and there were many companies competing against each other. Id be more excited if Sega released a new Virtua Striker, or any major company making an arcade/sim type game based purely on skill.
I informed you in 2021 about the engine architecture of eFootbal. I warned you several times that a new engine was never the solution I the guy that created the o file modding system in Pes 2019. You never seem to see my messages. Unreal Engine's animation system for UE 4.2 (the version eFootball is built on) is not good enough for a sports game. This is why the game is a hybrid of fox and UE. Fox is not as bloated as Frostbite but i believe the dev team is understaffed. they wont fix any none critical issues
I m just awfully addicted to this game. This rage. I want that rage everytime. I used to beat teams with my white ball players. The game was that tactical at that time. Now it's a farce.
The problem with these games after 2015 is that when you play them they make you fall asleep there are so damn scripted you can play them while sleeping
I uninstalled this game long ago. And I'm very sad because Konami destroyed the game, making it Free to Play in this hybrid status. WE all need a real next gen PES.
not going to lie, still using (or atleast parts of) a ten year old game engine that the maker (the original kojima production) didn't even make for sports games, for your sports game is kinda insane
I dont understand what people want anymore. People hate it when the defending is super manual in version 0.9 and still complaining when the defending is automated now. Imagine when you let the cpu vs cpu and the a.i is dumb
If you play fuma do stats become redundant? As the output is reliant on the user rather than stats I.e can mctominay do a great 60 yard pass on manual the same as KDB?
I came to the realisation that eFootball just isn't for PES vets, at all! They are getting so many downloads on mobile and getting plenty of micro transactions so do not care about making a football game the hardcore PES fans would want. the dumbing down of the gameplay is to make it more playable on mobile. Corporate greed has killed sports games. It's no longer about fun, but for gambling.
the only change they made was from pes2020 to pes2021. we made a huge campaign on twitter when we saw the all violet scoreboard on pes2020 and asked them to let us edit the scoreboard colours from league to league on ps4. they did not say anything and then in pes2021 they made some colour changes like in laliga, serie a or champions league scoreboard. just that a cosmetic change. we had chats with robbie ron at that time telling that "we" the comunnity can help to improve the game. now a days this guy is a joke for all the old pes players.
I play on mobile i can't agree with you more, even on mobile, I would definitely would want them to switch over to unreal engine to jave a better gameplay
If they didn’t change the engine for the gameplay then why does the game look so terrible? It looks and plays worse than PES2014 / PES2021. Those games are realistic and graphics are superior to this garbage. I uninstalled it anyway.
Of course the game becomes more and more automated, because how is the main audience, people playing on mobile, supposed to keep up otherwise? Unfortunately, I knew PES was dead as soon as they fused the console and mobile versions with the release of Efootball.
the game is good now honestly playable and fun ,could need more animations tho for passes and shots aswell as more fouls called, it seems like shoves and pushes aree never called as fouls
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Credit to Spoony for letting me use the footage. Check out the full review here: th-cam.com/video/yhVebMrpFqU/w-d-xo.html
Something a little different today folks as we touch upon Spoonys review and i give you my thoughts!
Be sure to leave your impressions on the state of the game below!
Hey I've been playing pes 2018 on my channel it awesome did u like pes 2018 mate
Would u prefer efootball release once a year like ea fc or like it is and updates throughout year I
No I ain't I'm playing pes 21 2018 fm and nhl 24 I have no desire to play that game until master leagues out im enjoying other games
I just saw your video from 2016 and man! You were so shredded! God dayum!
Konami rather give 50k apology GP than fix this game, its laughable that after every update they give all user an apology GP
50k?
it's not even enough to renew contract of standard odegard card
@@hisagi6940it's not even enough to play for Any 5 star standard player
Solution is easy: stop shoving your money down their throats 🤷♂️..
Respect to Ricky for speaking out about efootball and Konami, just proves he cares more about the quality of the game rather than being close to them to get free stuff.
Yh it's crazy because he could've been a lot closer with Konami after that casting/commentator role he had a few years back (which I kinda wish he did). Instead he loved the game and was critical of it and Konami as per usual didn't like it and cut him off pretty much. Sad reality.
@@Sprt1337they cut him off for real??
I still remember the day they promised us the photorealistic, best ever, PES...
Been playing Konami football games for over twenty five years. eFootball is a shite, soulless, casino styled cash cow. Konami used to replicate the beautiful game, now they replicate the ugly one, the one that has sold its soul for dollar dollar bills y'all. On PS5 I play the PES 2019 Update (PES 2021) with the PES universe option files, and enjoy it infinitely more than the decaying corpse of eFootball. I remember queuing outside of Woolworths each year waiting for them to open, so I could go in and buy the latest ISS or PES. I even ordered a Japanese copy of Winning 11 from Japan, and had to get a Japanese dictionary from the library, all because Gamecube didn't release a PES. My loyalty was solid to Konami, now though I pray for a developer to make a quality game and push Coinami totally out of the market. FCUK eFootbollock. Long live PES.
Well said
Find a way to get a pc. Modded pes 21 comes with pretty much everything from chants to stadiums
Man the good days! Get the game fresh, start fresh, every year different greatness different problems. Now meh
Maaaaan, I haven't heard of woolworths for years. It's been almost 20 years since I last saw one.
I still play PES. 2010. That is how bad it is these days. Every thing is ultimate team etc. EA started this and Konami is following suit
Of corse Konami not gonna fix anything. They dont because idiots still spend hundreds of dollars/euros on this pile of shit...
Exactly what I’ve been saying since they first released this pile of shit. Imagine as a business person… you’re selling a low value product yet you’re still making profit and millions off it, would you even bother trying to fix it?
@@leonardo_da_g9168 Ethically and morally yes, but that doesn't seem to come into the equation at this point. If it's making money; they don't seem to care....
Exactly! If people stop spending money on those stupid cards Konami would immediately change their strategy. The best way to hurt them is to aim to their wallet
POTM/MOTM/DOTM all
@@leonardo_da_g9168You have to look at it from their perspective: From the point of a manager they did everything exactly right! It‘s on the customers to answer to that - but people are lazy, greedy and weak. That‘s why their strategy works 🤷♂️..
They are using the same scoreboard animation since 2021. We can not expect much from them.
I play on manual and i agree with absolutely everything you said. The game is so fucking automated. Dribbling against epic p2w cards is literally impossible. They make the tackle even without pressing any buttons. 99% of players play quick counter and spam pa1 ping pong passes all game without thinking. And the worst thing is that it works. Nobody plays out wide, long ball. Playstyles are not balanced at all. Only good thing about this game is friendly coop with good teammates and normal opponents who want to play real football
I remember in older pes games you actually had to spend a week or two learning how to play, scoring goals was hard, creating chances was hard, defending was difficult too. Now the game holds you by hand and does everything instead of you.
It is also so fast, it is becoming like fifa. 0.9 version was so much better
100% agree with you. Spam pingpong without thinking and it repeatable every match. Got so annoyed and quit the game.
The biggest problem with this game is the mobile players ( after Konami ofc). These idiots go out there and spend money pretty much every time they log in to the game. Literally search up efootball mobile and 75% of the videos are pack openings. I don’t have the proper tools for it but I would argue that the Mobile version brings in more money than console version at the moment. Until the mobile players stop spending money on the game, Konami won’t fix shit. After all, Efootball is a mobile game
That's because that's literally all the content there's in the game
@@5iker_ play matches , literally. Or make different squad ideas like 3 stars, 4 stars or even 2 stars. I once did a dreadlocks fc team, there’s so much more these days”content creators “ can do than just opening packs
@@leonardo_da_g9168 I have never spent a single dime in this game all I do is play matches, anything that doesn't evolve money. I play the my league, I play the offline events. I want to do something different not repeating everything ive don't for years.
Konami completely ignores player feedback, and efooball is lack of realism that has completely become an enlarged version of the mobile game. This is why traditional PES players are still playing pes2021.
Exactly !! I thought I was the only one ... PES 2021 was the Best Konami have came out with
Just corporate greed. I tried to gather people on Reddit to try and do something about it, most people are not interested, in fact - they downvote and criticize you with that same argument - ''It's free, just don't play''. I regret spending 11 euros on this game, I tried to justify it to myself somehow like it owe it to Konami for being a fan of PES for many years, but maybe that was just the gambler in me finding an excuse. It's a pay to win game but even worse, the scripting is insane, you are playing against the opponent and the game a lot of the time. There are no modes, no listening to feedback, they add OP players and pay to win skills all the time, it's horrible.
Passing is ass. Triangle lob pass stops the player receiving it . Triangle pass is not direct enough
I played Winning Eleven when I was a kid. Since PES 2010 I played every year. I have thousands and thousands of hours in this game. Well over 25k. I have played all game modes, everything this games had to offer. Nothing got ever fixed. Every thing stayed the same since forever. But after rebranding and trust me when I say this: This game is dead. Dead and burried 3 meters underground. Time to give up. I already did.
Same mate. No doubt we have played each other online at some point. But alas, these days are gone. The series is dead, killed by greed.
i stopped playing football games a long time ago cuz there is no point anymore its just a waste of time and a lot of emotional damage remembering how good they were back in the day whenever u play a current football game
Thats complete bull, EAFC is much better than previous games ever were, honestly go back and play them, they suck so much ass, its just nostalgia that makes you think they are better than todays game
EAFC is trash. EA only give a shit about ultimate team, as do most 12 year olds.
I think what he means by animation brought over from core engine does not mean the game is not running on Unreal engine and more towards the fact they were animations or code that was brought over from the previous engine which obviously means it wasn't optimized or refactored to run better. I do think that even if Unreal is a good engine, it's not exactly an engine made solely and dedicated for a football game that one could easily create a good football game from especially when the Fox Engine had already improved a lot before they decided to switch engines. It was a mistake to switch so quickly to Unreal even if the benefit being that development was faster. They should have continuously sell and update Pes 2020 with new seasons while they make a free version of Efootball that uses Unreal which they try to improve over time to reach closer to PES 2020 gameplay and when it's good enough, have it replace PES.
I first played a Konami football game in the late ‘90’s. I have every single copy since 2006. My favourite is 2021. And that’s it for me. I was a huge fan. Bought every single copy on day 1. What is wrong with those people at Konami?
Ricky it’s a double edge sword with feedback. Before V1.0 everyone complained that the defending was too hard so V1.0 comes out and suddenly it’s AI assisted defending making tackles for you and moving your defenders into position? So Konami listen when it’s designed to make this a noob friendly experience. Meanwhile us Veteran PES players are just being ignored. I’ve got a theory, Konami don’t actually update the game. They just tweak certain aspects of it to make it at times unplayable and almost fully automated so that when the big August/September update comes out and they put things back to a normal level, everyone will think it’s an improvement meanwhile the game hasn’t actually evolved at all. We just go in circles and Konami sell more coins. When I start seeing this game improving visually graphics wise I’ll know they are actually putting in real work to make this a decent game. In the 2 years it’s been out it hasn’t changed graphically and I’d argue it’s gotten worse gameplay wise too.
Also let me just add that all these people whining that they want Master League and bragging that they don’t spend money on coins haven’t bought a PES title in 4 years so who do you think is funding the development of that Master League? It’s people still spending money on this game. I don’t shame people for spending money on this game. If they find enjoyment in it and it’s their money sure go ahead. Think about that before you go down that route of trying to shame people for that.
Going from people trying to make a football game and those that do it seem to be that football games are very difficult to build.
People have very different ideas of what they like .
You have the dribbler who want to be able to do ridiculous stuff . The fine line between game breaking or game making with skills alone should give people an idea.
I grew up playing it and people making up alot of faults to justify losing ( I played in 3 online Leagues ) this alone makes it hard to know. There are many things people just don't Learn to do too.
Am not saying it perfect game.
But a little like prem league, people moaned so much they ended up with Var ( it will be scrapped for 25 season )
I would pay double even triple to have a PES 24 tho.
A couple of streamers I caught out and one I took to task made and apologise video.
They were moan about game live ,so I watch video back and he would do thing like kick the total opposite way to which he was facing, then go mad when it cause him to lose a goal.
What was more telling was his comment section during and after.
No one said hang no you were face opposite way or you could done xyz
It was just the game is shit ,you can't win.
Players poor reaction to losers was and is a real issue.
Grown men on the leagues I would play against would talk so much nonsense about game and while it not perfect it was never as broken as people made out.
I think you're mistaken about the issues being purely technical, like with engines. Instead, the approach should be psychological. Consider this: "These guys are acting strangely; let's revamp and improve the game. But what about the current userbase that's happy with it? The game made $3 billion last year." (suddenly , the idea does not make sense to the decision makers as their only metricc is $)
Such games need to hit rock bottom to innovate. Unless the fix is easy, they won't bother since they're already profiting even from dissatisfied customers.
This game used to feel much better so they know how to improve it. The question is why they don't want to do that.
It's sad man...really sad...the gen z kids are just destroying a game 😂
That's right, because it's still the same team that made PES 2021 for many years.
Great video, you said it all, emphasized the right things, straight to the point... plus some information about the game engine it uses... in my opinion, in this video, you provide an essential critique/review of this game, this video is enough to understand the essence of the game, the company's aspirations, and objectively assess all its flaws, but also dispel some prejudices regarding the bugs in the game. Bullseye, the smartest review so far, in my opinion...well done
As someone that knows about game development I think it’s good to clear up that you can’t run and engine in an engine, what they mean is the core code and how they call each animation etc is pulled over. Essentially they’ve copied the blueprints of the house but are building it with different materials (unreal engine). This means there will be inherent issues if they’ve coded something into a corner and they’ll have to literally re-design many things from scratch to get real change everyone is after.
thank you someones saying this!!, these are reaccouring problems in football games. company's find a formula and stick with it and change everything around the actual game like loading screens, packs, cards and all other minor things that have nothing to do with football in a FOOTBALL game. I would love to see something like UFL come out and be different but I doubt it unfortunately. personally we need a football manager but with the graphics of fifa in game and a mix of fifas fluidity and pes pace, tactics & passing in gameplay but without that jankyness... but I don't develop games and I don't know how difficult that really is (I'm sure its not easy) but from a fan point of view I remember 10 years ago playing fifa and pes and being like in 10 years these games are gunna be like playing football at home, they don't, it actually feels like both of them stayed completely the same since and made minor improvements year by year until now we are all bored and sick of the same shit on repeat.. I guess if anyone reads this and runs a gaming studio.. make a FM that I can play the games and it look like fifa but play football. NOT arcade football. at a real pace with with real tactics.. u got my £70+ every year
Free to play is a bollocks argument anyway. For most if not all f2p. Cause there's always pay2win mechanics. So it's bs and only idiots use it as an argument. Plus like you said, your time aswell is worth something. Your time isn't free. Ppl who think it is have way to much on there hands. Bs. Your right man. What idiots put that argument are just muppets 😂😂
Online play has ruined all football games theyre all designed for ultimate team style gameplay
I've said this for years about fifa regarding engines. Fifa "switched" to the frostbite engine but people don't know its the visual engine not the gameplay engine. So people were somehow surprised that the gameplay didn't change. Fifa's gameplay engine I believe is still the engine from 2008 fifa.
Same is possible with e football. U4 is the visual engine but they didn't migrate the gameplay engine.
They switched the whole thing, they don’t use ignite anymore
@@chuckychip4060 The gameplay remained the same though. It's a lot harder than you think to completely switch engines. The visuals changed but the gameplay stayed the same. A full engine change would have drastically changed the gameplay. I'll give you an example.
When Fifa switched to a new engine in 2007 from the PS2 FIFA to the PS3 FIFA, the gameplay was completely different but the game had no content and only a few stadiums. Despite the PS2 on the old engine having tons of stadiums. Rockstar switched engines from Renderware to the Rage engine in GTA and the gameplay was completely different. We never saw such a change wth the ignite engine to the frostbite engine. It still had all of the same content and the gameplay stayed the same. This suggests it was only the visual engine that changed.
there are no new animations in this that were not in pes21,infact there are less animations in this game than older pes games,, they just ported it over from fox engine, to unreal mobile engine why its so bad.
remember that teaser they gave us years ago with messi on the unreal 5, conami.
I just saw your video from 2016 and man! You were so shredded! God dayum!
I’ve gone back to pes 2016, it’s the only pes I have on ps5 available. It’s annoying not having the current player base. But besides that I prefer it to ea go manager mode and well there’s no point in playing my league for one season and then going back to the start. Probably will end up saving for a laptop/pc that can run football life. Not a good time to be an offline mode player.
PES16 is awesome!! Had so many epic games on that one, always go back to it now n then.
I play pro evo since was born aka iss....i have said over a year now that pro is dead i cant understand why bother anymore its a waste of energy....move on...
P.s i know there is nowhere to move on😂😂😂 but cross fingers for 2kfifa....
Pes 21 on pc is moving on
I'm still playing pes 20, but I just don't have all the option files. But the game is still better than current games. Fifa 17 is another game that is still worth playing, and then the fifa games just got worse. It would be nice to get a really good soccer game with the latest lineups etc. It's weird how 2K can't make a decent soccer game.
Yep, and the thing is whilst it may be free to play, that doesn't excuse the shortfalls. Nobody asked for it to become FTP, just put out a good premium football game with a price tag. The problem is that a 'good' version of this game doesn't exist whether that be FTP or paid, it's the fact of the matter.
If only people did not love to get scammed (buy cards with real money), then things would look very differently.
Not really, you just wouldn’t have anything period. Fact people spend means we still have something to play. You should be thanking those people not ridiculing them
@@Neo_Rain146 Massive L.
@@mrgreekgm754 Massive zit on your forehead
I only play this game because fifa is shit i dont like the fast pace turning and dribbling on fifa we don't really have an option for footy games and yes this game is also shit , I'm an online player who uses manual on ps5
I play the game but baffled how ppl actually pay money to buy players it's only a game why spend ur cash on a computer game
i never did and have star squad
Gambling addicts or children who don't know any better.
What a once wonderful game.
I do like the mods as I’ve been watching another channel called Trevor Sports that are playing Efootball using the kits from 1996/97 season.
I stopped playing as soon as they removed master league
THANK YOU RICK. I hope more youtubers will follow your example.
I've played efootball since the launch of v 1.0 and my opinion, in the start was that it was a decent, skill based football game, but unfortunatelly, as time passed by it just got dumbed down and dumbed down and dumbed down......
But learning now, that it has not been moved to UNREAL engine, mind you, May 10th, the boycot day, was actually my first day without efootball since v 1.0, I honestly say that I will NEVER turn this game on, until they move it to a new engine, as promised back in 2020. which is when we got the season updated game, so, so long until this game is fixed.
He was the only guy on TH-cam who brought it all on point!! That's why he deserves all the respect 🙏 i would have loved to do it if I know how to do videos 😂so he is the man.
What happened to your contacts at Konami dude? You went on a trip to their office in CA right?
Are they giving you any insights on what is happening?
The situation is terrible for Sports games. Everything is going online. Apparently BIG Ant studios the makers of Cricket 2024 are going to introduce a Card/Coin/XP crap mode.
It's Free to Play and we STILL not getting our money's worth!!!
game is a joke from a pes fan from ps1,ps2, ps3,ps4 bring back the classic’s
If they give efootball an offline mode realistically can smokepatch release another football life with the efootball engine. Im sick of no call collisions and no pentalties
I play one or two games against the AI event teams and then stop playing, I’m good after that. I used to play the rank league in D1/2 and just got tired of facing the exact same meta formation with teams worth over €3000 … literally. Couldn’t wrap my head around the average user paying that for players but I guess a large number of players still do 😂
Ive been playing since ISS, seen the highs and lows of PES. Comes a time where you just have to let it go and detach any emotions of past additions. I do agree however that on Full Manual it's decent to play.
You are one of the very few youtubers speaking against what this game has become 👏. The handicap, the p2w and the bugs makes it laughable, I already gave up. Not playing anymore.😤
E is Still a million times better than FC24, at least I don’t have to pay a hundred dollars every year to lose my ultimate team. These content creators are hilarious.
No way efootball tries to copy from fifa, look at the speed the ball goes in the net, even the controller settings is saying , dash instead of run, efootball is worst man, PES is the ideal game
As soon as they dropped the announcement that efootball would focus more on online gaming and not include any kind of career mode i already knew it was gonna be the franchises downfalls. Unfortunately i only got fed up with fifa some like 5 years ago. Still play pes 21 to this day with many mods and its so much more rewarding in terms of gameplay. Shame they then fcked up the franchise :/
UFL comming to PS5 i XBox, I hope for porting to PC later. After UFL release many players will definitely drop eF and FC. Unfortunately loosing money which players pay2win on spins is the only way leading to some conclusion for Konami. Finaly they interested in our money not our opinions or even game quality itself.
Anyway... thank You for You reviews. I agree with everything You said about the game and understand the disappointment over eF.
Really is a sad state of affairs with this game, i use to be a part of 2 big pes communites, one was a full 11 aside full manual league, hundreds of players, they have all gone to fifa now, and the other was a full manual league set up with a transfer window ect, again hundreds of users. Both these communities have now gone
It being free doesn't change that fact it's a bit naff, nor affect any criticism of it. And we must criticise if we ever want to see things grow in the right way and improve. You wouldn't want to pay good money for this, and if Konami don't care, why should we?
I have given up on Konami... I play modded EA FC 24 with realistic sliders, manual passing and I enjoy it. The game is responsive and it does exactly what I want. Yes, the dribbling is terrible, but somehow I got over it...
Ive played PES/ISS from the very start, and the games were always the best representation of football, up until EFootball... konami are just greedy and dont give a fuck, i refuse to play this piece of shit, il just stick to mainly the ps2/ps3 iterations..some of the ps4 versions are decent, but no match for the peak ps2 games.
Spot on mate pay to win and it makes players look like they are better at game than u.
I’m playing PES 6 Firebird patch 2023. Infinitely better than anything Konami has put out for years.
spoony is a mercenary.
I remember him reviewing eFootball before it being released, and I remember him saying how it was a nextgen experience 😂 he's a
I just play pes 2013 on my PS3 . Crazy how this game beats all current football games
Im a manual player,i have to say ,all these issues are there on manual,player freezing,terrible response times,all what ricky has said are there,.
When the game plays well though lads,try full manual,its where this game shines.
Fix the bloody game konami
They’re just not interested in making a good game. They’re interested in making you frustrated so you buy coins. They made PES 2013 12 years ago, PES 2019 was pretty decent too, but already headed in this coin buying direction, gameplay wise. Hoping for better gameplay is a pipe dream.
The state of football games not named FM
Pathetic
I suggest u play fc 24 now. They have diversified the ai based on teams with last 2 updates. Now the ai on legendary difficulty don't tiki taka as much.
If truly cared we have edit mode by Now
See I was right all along. I called this years ago on the launch of EF 2023 so 1 year after release everyone telling me I'm wrong it's on UE4 😂 konami say something people believe it 🤷🏻♂️ the games always been on fox I believe the online test wasn't on fox as it was completely different.
I’m frequently between division 1 and 2 and I can guarantee you that I never spent a single penny on this game. I refuse to that. If they fix this o can think about it. Otherwise not a single cent.
Honestly, Football Life 21 really saved me. I was very disappointed with Efootball and I'm still now.
Yes gameplay is fox engine Cutscenes are UE4 but at 30fps
Finally someone's speaking out about this game because of how bad the game is, I uninstalled it in January and thank god I did
TH-camrs/Streamers (not you) who keep praising the efootball mobile card game, ARE NOT HONEST. They only don't want to lose their main revenue.
I stopped playing. To be honesty t i play the old games, not just PES but other stuff from PS1 era and PS2. Even the arcady stuff plays with personality, at least it was all you and mastering controls etc. Once you got the hang of it you felt a sense of achievement. Football games are dead, online gaming killed it. It used to be that once apon a time companys wanted to invent an addictive game and there were many companies competing against each other. Id be more excited if Sega released a new Virtua Striker, or any major company making an arcade/sim type game based purely on skill.
I informed you in 2021 about the engine architecture of eFootbal. I warned you several times that a new engine was never the solution
I the guy that created the o file modding system in Pes 2019. You never seem to see my messages.
Unreal Engine's animation system for UE 4.2 (the version eFootball is built on) is not good enough for a sports game. This is why the game is a hybrid of fox and UE.
Fox is not as bloated as Frostbite but i believe the dev team is understaffed. they wont fix any none critical issues
2K + FIFA is my only hope on football games!!!. After playing TopSpin with its beautifull gameplay we deserve a 2K football game
Biggest problem with konami is they dnt listen to community ea are playing great solo games let's see what 2k do?
They won't care but still I support this. They lied to us about giving us master league. THERE IS NOTHING TO DO IN THIS GAME.
I m just awfully addicted to this game. This rage. I want that rage everytime. I used to beat teams with my white ball players. The game was that tactical at that time. Now it's a farce.
This game is such a huge let down! The defending is so bad the players just run around they have completely ruined it
Stopped playing a year ago to just play pes 20 ML with updates files. Sucks you can’t find digital versions of the older PES games
Still playing Pes 2021 with updated squads and kits. Ruined Pes such a shame.
At least people are finally realizing what a disaster it is..
The problem with these games after 2015 is that when you play them they make you fall asleep there are so damn scripted you can play them while sleeping
The only chance we have is PC and mods. The community is the only hope for these games. PES and EA FC
I uninstalled this game long ago. And I'm very sad because Konami destroyed the game, making it Free to Play in this hybrid status. WE all need a real next gen PES.
not going to lie, still using (or atleast parts of) a ten year old game engine that the maker (the original kojima production) didn't even make for sports games, for your sports game is kinda insane
I dont understand what people want anymore. People hate it when the defending is super manual in version 0.9 and still complaining when the defending is automated now. Imagine when you let the cpu vs cpu and the a.i is dumb
Will there be an EURO 2024 option file, would be cool ;) ? But if not... no problem !
if this is the case make the game smooth like PES 2019, best responds and no broken animations
If you play fuma do stats become redundant? As the output is reliant on the user rather than stats
I.e can mctominay do a great 60 yard pass on manual the same as KDB?
It’s defo gash, I used to love being able to edit my teams kits, you can’t even do that 😂
I came to the realisation that eFootball just isn't for PES vets, at all! They are getting so many downloads on mobile and getting plenty of micro transactions so do not care about making a football game the hardcore PES fans would want. the dumbing down of the gameplay is to make it more playable on mobile.
Corporate greed has killed sports games. It's no longer about fun, but for gambling.
I already moved on since 2021. Almost 4 years not played this sheet.
I only play through share play with my brother,on full manual. And even then you cant play longer than 10 minute games.
Big cooperations are cutting costs and maximizing profits
the only change they made was from pes2020 to pes2021. we made a huge campaign on twitter when we saw the all violet scoreboard on pes2020 and asked them to let us edit the scoreboard colours from league to league on ps4. they did not say anything and then in pes2021 they made some colour changes like in laliga, serie a or champions league scoreboard. just that a cosmetic change. we had chats with robbie ron at that time telling that "we" the comunnity can help to improve the game. now a days this guy is a joke for all the old pes players.
Efootball sucks.
Can we get a classic ibrahimovic for SP2024 !
"this game is too fast" then you say even ronaldinho feels like like a bag of cement, i mean thats why this game isn't fast then
The goat🐐🐐 speaks... And great work from spoony
I play on mobile i can't agree with you more, even on mobile, I would definitely would want them to switch over to unreal engine to jave a better gameplay
2:17 😂 Everytime I play against legendary AI in EAFC24
No action from the survey's, because the PES fans bringing up the issues with the game are probably a minority. Most people will just be yes men
If they didn’t change the engine for the gameplay then why does the game look so terrible? It looks and plays worse than PES2014 / PES2021. Those games are realistic and graphics are superior to this garbage. I uninstalled it anyway.
Of course the game becomes more and more automated, because how is the main audience, people playing on mobile, supposed to keep up otherwise? Unfortunately, I knew PES was dead as soon as they fused the console and mobile versions with the release of Efootball.
the game is good now honestly playable and fun ,could need more animations tho for passes and shots aswell as more fouls called, it seems like shoves and pushes aree never called as fouls