The Missing Children of Isère
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12 children?!?! Oh wow that's alot of tragedy and affected families.
Unbelievable they didn't solve this
The incompetence for every child that was abducted is astonishing. The pain that these families must be suffering from is truly heartbreaking as French authorities apparently were not concerned in catching the killer of these innocent child whose life’s had been stolen. My heart goes out to the family members and the loved ones for all of these children.
They came from poor social backgrounds, they just don't care for those.
I'm starting to suspect they knew something and were covering it up. I've seen enough cases to know when the cops are blocking the investigation purposely. I mean THEY CLOSED THE CASES!!! AND ALL THE EVIDENCE JUST DISAPPEARED? the more I know about these type of cases is that a lot of powerful pepper are involved.
@@emma75 you got proof or are you just making that up?
OK losing those files for the first few was incompetence. How was the rest due to incompetence?
Luckily, the French Police didn't torture some unknown guy for a confession.
I'm from Isère and this story sent chills down my spine.... The quietest towns seem to attract the worst crimes .
Also thank you for not saying "sorry if I butcher this" before pronouncing french names. It's so cringe when other speakers do it.
Cringe for apologizing?
@woof yes absolutely, just give it your best shot and act natural. because the worst thing to do is to make someone feel like their name is so bizarre it can't be pronounced
Agree that's just so lazy. They have the internet in front of them and its not so terribly hard to watch some pronunciation videos *and learn something* I'd rather have people correct me than think I didnt give a **** about the accuracy of the content
@woof oh right, like it gets boring because 'just get my name right' I see from both sides
It has nothing to do with small towns, it's all about Europe and North America, full of feminists, gays, phedophiles and crack heads!
Gregory's description of his abductor was very good considering he sustained a head injury. Hard to understand how no one came forward with a name😞..then there's the little boy whose bones were found, yet he remains unidentified. Hopefully now with genealogy testing, this may lead to his identity. Just recently the infamous Boy in the Box, has been identified after 60 years, through this technique. God bless all these poor children, murdered at the hands of sick individuals - may they rest in peace🙏🌹
THE BOY IN THE BOX HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED?!?!?
@@amybishop666yes. Give it a google and it’ll pop up. Finally.
@@mrsd2950 OH MY GODDDDD
YAYYYY!!! 🖤🖤🖤🖤
@@mrsd2950 R.I.P. Joseph Augustus Zarelli.
He was FINALLY laid to rest, in an actual grave, for good this time. He deserves the peace after all these years. 🖤
@@amybishop666 100%. He always deserved better
The police that closed the cases despite not finding the killer are very suspicious. Either they're super incredibly incompetent (wouldn't surprise me) or someone's guilty. (Also wouldn't surprise me.) I'm sure it was a serial killer and it could have been a policeman or someone rich that could pay off certain people. It's just too suspicious that more than one case was just closed off like that.
Cops are murderers, so it wouldn't be surprising.
I studied in Grenoble for many months a couple years ago - I never felt completely safe there and locals and my host always told me places to avoid. I watched a lot of violence happen, sadly, and was followed a LOT, even during the day. I felt so uneasy that I would take the TGV up to Paris where my friends were to avoid being in Grenoble too long. Hearing these stories make me so sad - it's a beautiful place, but something is definitely off.
I lived in Grenoble years ago and I completely agree..
So it’s a kind of sketchy place, even still?
Honest question because I have literally no idea.
@@mrsd2950 it really depends of areas. I still go there now and then to visit family members, you just have to know the spots to avoid unfortunately.
@Uncle Hoax, if you watch the video, the child who survived said that it was a "European" who attacked him. The person who did this likely was very white, very local, and did not raise suspicion.
Grenoble was in Italian occupied France during WW2, so yes, there could well be more Fascists there. A Nazi pedo even.
It's not just evil to murder children it's also evil to cover up such murders so many of these victims have been let down
Geez, this video must have taken a toll: researching and recording. All of these children, blooming hell - this is so incredibly depressing. Your videos are phenomenal. Take care of yourself
In the case where no evidence was found? Have to wonder if police even bothered to look?????
Or a policeman WAS the perp.
Could there have been more than one killer? To go from wee kids to older teenage ones seems a bit odd. Why isn't this an open cold case for the police in the area? Is it just closed and that's it?? Unbelievable.
Couldn't agree more... either the police are involved or they covering it up for someone bc no way was this just incompetent police work that's bs... also they had DNA & other good evidence to lead them to a possible killer or killers but they just closing the cases & important information on the cases just come up missing stuff like this infuriates me!!
Totally. Gender variation among victims of sexual murders is uncommon. Not unhears of, but less common. If a large number of these victims actually share a perpetrator, that would be interesting on a scholastic level.
I see comments about there being a racial issue, and people might be missing a larger context. There are entire regions in france where french (read white) citizens can pretty much not go. They are targetted by migrants for being non-arab. This excuses nothing of course, but a clear picture needs to he shown.
Smells like a huge cover up going on here. May justice be served to all.
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Yes, this is too much "incompetence" to actually be incompetence.
@@meganlangreck2488 fat cats and backhanders and people getting a job because their uncle is the mayor?
There is an awful lot of things in France you can't do without the express permission of the local mayor and if the mayor doesnt like you, you meet nothing but brick walls
I know these awful things happen, but come on multiple kids going missing, murdered, SA, & a half ass investigation. Just seems theres a cover up or (God forbid) something else that's way worse. How awful & maddening. 🤦♀️💔
Thank you for another informative video & for keeping their stories told for the victims/families.
God bless 👑🙏🏻🕊💕💕
As other commentators have also pointed out, the North African Arab origin of the majority of the victims may have led to the police not showing any real interest or dilligence in their investigation. Truly horrific.
That’s horrible
People alwas try forcing a racial issue into cases please stop
@@dlz190 Racism as a social phenomenon is REAL. Aming myriads of other injustices, dead bodies of dark skinned youth shot by the police prove it. Denying the existence of racism and pushing a gaslighting trope of "playing the race card" when someone calls out racist behaviour is an old manipulation technique of denigration of the victims. We will never stop calling out the ugly facts.
@@gaiagreen2690 racism dosnt Exist it’s just people playing the race card.. 13=50% the fact u trying so hard with the race accpect shows u don’t care truly got the victims only about they’re skin color smh
You asshole keep racism away
You are giving the children of Isère justice by spreading their stories and allowing us Americans (along with many other countries) to hear their stories. I’d like to think that they all have a voice now because of you. Thank you ❤️
I wonder how much publicity these cases got at the time. It can't be a coincidence, that so many young people disappeared or were found murdered in the same region. Doesn't sound as if it was taken seriously enough by Police. Maybe some of the children could have been saved, if it were. RIP
Or, one of the Investigator's knew how to throw the cases off track and highly involved....IMHO
@@MausMasher54 yes!
I feel profoundly sad for the families of these children.
Probably goes up to highest level, much like the Dutroux case in Belgium.
That’s EXACTLY what I’ve thought ever since I first heard of all these cases. The lackluster performance given by investigators is a big reason for my thinking this but it isn’t the only one.
My thoughts exactly..
Reminds me of the Marc Dutroux case in Belgium. He kidnapped kids and trafficked them to people with high-level political connections going all the way up to the Royal family.
not true, rumors
@@domoetker3967 the true story is horrific enough. More gross incompetence by police in that case.
@@domoetker3967 🤓
@@jobdylan5782 Joel Joseph, can you make a Video about the Victim named "Victor Vega" 61 Years old. You will find a lot of material for example from Crime Stoppers, and maybe you can prevent your Brothers and Sisters for future crimes. I think this is more important.
Yes he was working in France too. I saw documentary of French girl who said Marc visited her house even and she was abused by many men but not Marc
I remember this series of cases and also remember thinking there was more than one monster at work in Isere. Having more than one serial killer at work in the same area just means it’s a day that ends in “y” here in the States.
Sadly all-too-true!
13 years? That is the kind of monster that you take out in to the woods so no one else will hear the screams, while you take care of them with loppers...one piece at a time.
Why be so kind?
Just watching this video was hell. Can´t imagine what parents of the kids suffer up to today.
Thank you for covering international cases, and being dedicated enough to learn the French pronunciation! I'm always impressed with this channel's coverage.
It is very sad that so many are okay with dead children. Peace to these families.
Love your channel and being French speaking I must admit that I’m very impressed by the pronunciation of the French names and places.
Merry Christmas 🎉
The police and detectives FAILED on a mass level. They should hold an open investigation to any and all departmental persons handing these horrific murders. They should be charged for great negligence. How stupid where they to not claim a serial killer was at large! Let them be stripped of any ability to serve. Let them be charged with gross negligence. The parents and family have suffered so greatly that financial recompense is owed.
Do you think its possible that there is a racial or class component to this? It seems like a lot of the victims have North African names, they could have been singled out by the killer(s) because of this.
Yet another amazing video. Thanks. What an absolute tragedy these missing children are 😢😢😢
The perp must be connected to someone important, or be someone w position, given the lack of effort put into proper investigations
Your french accent is spot on. Thank you for covering these cases, these poor young people 😥
A big thanks to you for speaking out every name . I hate when youtubers don't make the effort to prononce the names. I think it's disrespectful. I love your work.
Great video as always! Merry Christmas from Texas!
Thank you for your excellent work. You guys are the best. Always get excited when a new video pops up on my feed!
we know
So sad thanks for sharing. Happy holidays!
Thank You for bringing Awareness.🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for all you do ❤ Hoping you have a wonderful Christmas ☃️
Who lets 6 year olds walk a mile ALONE?
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People who don’t care if they go missing. That case absolutely sounds like the poor child died accidentally and the adults covered up his death because no person with the IQ of a chicken and above lets a small child walk alone for a mile in the woods
His father's 3 frnds let a 6 year old boy go back alone. People can really be careless.
Am I the only one to notice that many of the victims are of similar coloring-black hair, dark brown eyes, olive or dusky skin, and appear to be of Arabic extraction. Not all, but certainly most. Could there be an element of racism, or a perpetrator attracted to people ethnically similar to himself? If some portion of the police force regards them as throw away children, that may account for the poor follow up
you are so close, just a little more denise
By all means look into any possibility. It's true serial killers tend to target certain racial groups.....usuallly their own. It's something to study in this case.
@@jobdylan5782 what do you mean by that? Your phrasing is suggestive of someone who has an intimate knowledge of these cases.
@@Cry.For.Ukraine did you just accuse me of murdering children lol
@@jobdylan5782 Sarcasm is not their strong point, Job 😅
It seems like several serial killers not just one
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Thirteen years for killing a six year old? I know European countries are more lenient on crime but this is mind boggling.
The more l hear of present and historical murders and children missing forever makes me hate this world so much. The level of evil needed within a person to rape and murder a child is beyond words. If there is a god,l care not for it as it allowed such evil to be performed and such evil people to exist in the first place.
Thank you for doing this story.
What a tragic series of stories. Lost the evidence??????????? omfg. DNA tests need to be done today on whatever evidence can be located.
Btw, your narrative of french names and places is very good.
It is an atrocious crime against humanity that these cases were not taken seriously. Chiildren should. be cherished in all societies ! I do hope the French have learned to respect their babies in the last 40 years !
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You are right, I have not found any other coverage of this case in English. I hope that changes.
Really shocking. Sounds as though people just accepted this, oh well, whatever. Horrifying.. You handled these cases very well, factually, the right tone and the right details. I had never heard of any of them.
Oh, dear heavens! this seems like Grenoble is shocking careless about children. Maybe not all are down to a particular killer, but...
The police seem so unconcerned it makes me wonder if the perp was a police officer and they knew it.
Or more than just one of them being in on it perhaps??? 😡
Quite frankly, at this point, if the cops are negligent, they are complicit. What are they trying to hide?
These definitely sound like the work of a serial killer that covered their tracks very well
Or was on the police force.
Or peado network
It doesn’t seem like they needed to cover their tracks as police weren’t hardly interested in the first place.
This is so awful. I keep thinking like how old these kids would he now and what they’ll never get to experience. Very sad. Great narration and presentation on your part though.
Merry Christmas to you and you family
In cases in which a large number of similar murders occur within a short distance from one another in a relatively short period of time, one has to wonder, could it be that there is a main killer responsible for most of these cases and the rest are the work of opportunists thinking they could get away with it because the authorities might be immediately inclined to connect the cases as opposed to looking at it separately? I can imagine that, once the idea that a serial killer on the loose takes hold, it’s easy to find similarities and overlook crucial differences.
Absolutely heartbreaking.
It's sickening that authorities didn't invest time & effort into these cases, & were content with closing them so quickly. The evidence of 3 of the cases being lost is suspicious
Je me souviens de cette histoire, pauvres enfants. C'est vraiment bizarre cette histoire
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I just want to say your French pronunciation are amazing.
The perpetrator is either a cop or a rich person that the cops are covering up for.
This is just Unimaginable, and Heartbreaking 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Nightmares. Poor poor little ones. I hope they are with God wearing a pair of wings. Disgusting perverted monsters! How can they do these things and still livé with themselves? They might have slipped away here but they've got something else to deal with when their tíme comes. Thanks DC🙏💔👼🏼
Merry Christmas to everyone and please be safe.🎄
Laura.....Amen to that. Real justice will come for them when they meet our Creator face to face....Woe.
Take care my friend.
Sad cases may they
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Is this a repost? I could’ve sworn you’ve already covered this case.
Ikr. I think she did. Or I could be wrong.
Go through the playlist and figure it out 😘
I thought the same. Or is this like an update to the case.
I think this is a repost after the original video must’ve been taken down.
I was thinking the same thing, I know I watched this before…
A lot of these children look as if they may have been of North African descent. Maybe that could be a connection?
Why on earth anyone would let young children out without an adult to supervise them ?
It was a different time, kids going out on their own was common even up till the late 90's
To get cigarettes, no less. I didn't even think that a child is allowed to do that. Don't you have to present ID or something?
@@caramia4143 the I'd deal is mire of a 80 90s thing, before that papa sening ten year Jimmy to buy him a six pack was while not commin it wasn't uncommon
Young people today really do not understand how it was growing up in the 70s, 80s, even maybe the 90s. Things were a lot different then.
French pronunciation on point!
As if you would let your mates 6yo kid walk through the forrest by themselves? What a complete lack of common sense
Rachid at 8 years old was out playing and at 10.30 was reported missing? That's late for a little boy to be out alone. These poor children. I always told my children that adults don't need help from children and to not engage with someone asking for such.
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This case is wild.
The violence and atrocities against these children is truly horrible and disturbing.
Very interesting, thank you. Also, your French pronunciation is quite good, IMO. Source: six years of study in school.
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Yeah the police have to be involved... or they protecting someone bc with the second victim ( poor little boy ) they get a call at the station & their told that they had him bc they saw him on the news ( knowing it was him & they had him bc they couldn't have children & just didn't look into the case any further... and then the 7 yr old that survived was put in a garbage dump left for dead &, crawled almost to a house near by & collapsed he was telling the police his accounts &, when he would say the kinda car it was the police say it was probably a Mercedes &, other things he tried telling them & they just close the case something weird is going on that's for sure I wouldn't trust noone... Anyways glad I found u channel loved the video HAPPY NEW YEAR 🥳 EVERYONE & TO U AS WELL BE SAFE much success & 🖤💜🖤💜🖤 to ya!!
I agree it’s someone with connections or importance!
Sure there are those that indeed do runaway but the majority are usually not and even if do ruaway why is thatva reason to not bother looking for them and at least check if they're alright far too often this lazy attitude of assuming they choose to disappear is very devastating to the victims and their families
Is this a reupload?? I swear I watched this a while ago from you!
Yeah, remember that too
Oh good! I'm glad someone else remembers! I thought I was going crazy lol
Complete incompetence and completely understandable. The wine and cheese were too good.
Recently there was a story about an American visa student having gone missing. He was a univ student at Grenoble, but went to Valence? by train for shopping
The attitude of the police in the majority of the cases is appalling. They either didn't care at all or they are somehow involved. Everything about the unsolved murders or disappearances smacks of corruption.
I wonder if anyone has looked at anyone in the police dept. Seems kind of weird that things have gone missing, cases being closed and not seeming to work very hard on these cases
The unknown child case is probably the safest out of them all😢
My guess? Some of the police closed the cases early because they either knew or they were the perpetrator.
Especially when given distinct details, like a tattoo.
No matter which horrific or unsolved crime I read or hear about, often the one common thread is an inept and possibly even corrupt police department. You'd think if even a single child was murdered or went missing the police would be all hands on deck and acting as quickly as possible to recover the missing child.
In the US, I feel like most cops take the easy way out when investigating… meaning they don’t bother.
they did not get the concept then that they were opportunistic opportunities of a wandering serial killer
Did adults ever buy cigs back in the day or was it only their children lol
Appalling lack of concern from law enforcement. Deviant behavior from a serial killer. Those poor parents and other family from the missing children.
DNA!! c’mon.. these cases should be solved & that unknown boy should have his name via familial dna testing
That one case in which the man was convicted of the murder after claiming it was his brother killed the boy and he just dumped the body: I wonder if the police looked into that brother after these disappearances kept happening even after the brother went to prison.
Instant death penalty for child kiers wherever it's operated in my view and life imprisonment everywhere else there certainly should be no situation where those who murder children ever walk the streets again
13 years for child murder is a crime itself.
The Killer or killers may also have moved to a large or wider community, where they could continue to perpetuate the crimes. It must be awfully hollow for those families of the children never found. I find the case of the child found whose identity is unknown, the saddest, not even after death does this child have anyone!
Seems a lot of these wee ones were of middle eastern background, folks generally stick to killin their own kind . Poor little buggers ,as parents you can't ever take your eyes off them ,I never realized what fear was until I became a father .love and prayers to all involved .
Wonder if the first three boys were all attacked by the same man. He might have stopped after Gregory lived. The first two might also be at the dump
Maybe look into children and Hollywood industry crimes…similar to these crimes