Un-honorable mention: Brazil 2022 With Max just cutting off his radio when Perez let him trough to try and take Alonso P5, with him later trying to justify it with „reasons he made over the summer”, most fans speculating that the „reasons” meant Sergios infamous turn 9 inchident at Monaco
@@jakemorganGP hurt me even more as i’m a Checo fan 😞 Maybe if Max gave Checo back, there would be even closer chance for him to take the 2nd in the standings
@Kacper_Akarii yeah. Max is definitely only in it for himself it seems. At least from a career perspective. He seems like a good family man and friend. But he’s ruthless on track
Tbh I've always understood max here even though I don't like him that much, teams usually let faster car through, max would've passed eventually, they tell checo to let max past but because max didn't catch someone else up he has tp slow down to let his slower team mate back past?
@@jakemorganGP He did also follow Rubens home in Hungary without attempting to pass later in 2002. So he gave a couple of races back, US may of been an accident but he did give back in interest.
Many people seem to forget that Ferrari did the same exact thing in Austria 2001. Except Michael was in 3rd and Ruebens was in 2nd. The clip of Jean Todt saying let michael pass for the championship is actually from that first incident.
In Russia 2018 they also used Hamilton's clash with Vettel a bit earlier as an excuse for the swap, saying they were afraid Vettel was gonna try agressive launches on Hamilton and stuff. You can see it in the official highlights I believe.
Interesting. I get it. And I think it was a necessary move. We have to remember that none of the teams care about how the sport looks per se if it secures them money and the championship(s). The only time they (usually Horner lol) will bring up the sport’s reputation will be when it’s to suit their own agenda. It’s like government politics but with cool cars and smarter people 😄
The Ferrari comment about Carlos Sainz touched my heart. I thought among all those toxic delusional Leclerc fans I was the only who sees Carlos unappreciated talent and how he is on a level with Leclerc most of the time. thank you my friend! Also great choices in the vid
I rate Carlos so highly and he’s had such a tough run of it. He’s not really felt welcome at any team he’s been at. Torro Rosso/Red Bull, Renault, McLaren, Ferrari. I hope Williams live up to what he deserves as an incredibly talented driver
@@jakemorganGP yes you are so right. I mean McLaren kinda appreciated him but later it got all eyes on young talent Lando. So I hope Williams can get him a competitive car come 2026 because at least they definitely appreciate everything he brings to the team
McLaren was in their goody little two shoes mode against the “evil cheating” Ferrari. I was screaming at the TV. Get your hands dirty for once and order Coulthard to give up the position! I was fed up with Ferrari bending anything and everything for their advantage but McLaren stubbornly did the “right” (idiotic) thing. Fortunately Mika did it all by himself and won by his superb drive at Suzuka.
Poor Seb... He had pole position at Hockenheim and was set to win the 2010 German Grand Prix, only to be beaten by both Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa straight away... Thankfully, he would eventually win the title later that year, in Abu Dhabi!
The reason people were outraged with the Massa Alonso one was because Massa had his accident almost one year to the day before the 2010 German GP (one day difference) and hadn’t won a race since. There was a huge sentimental feeling from fans of how good that story would have been and Ferrari robbed Massa, the sport and the history books of it.
Austria 2002 was a key memory for me. I always rooted against Schumacher (despite him undeniable being one of the GOATs) and seeing this blatant interference in his favour from Ferrari in a season where he never needed it was just infuriating. But him trying to cheer up Barrichello and admitting that he didn't feel he'd gotten the win on merit earned him a lot of respect from me. And at the end of that season, he repaid Barrichello by letting him through on the final straight of the US GP. (According to that season's "yearbook" which was released in Germany, Michael asked Jean Todt if he could let Rubens by to make up for the Austria affair. Todt said no and Michael did it anyway. He then pretended to have tried to create a "photo finish" with him being first by a tiny margin. If that story is true, it's pretty funny.)
@@FHT1883He trying to make it look better backfired badly and FIA banned team orders. The FIA didn't banned team orders because it was bad, they banned it because the media mocked them for Micheal trying to make it look good. Absolute joke moment.
Nice video. Just to clarify, the actual meaning of the phrase “Multi-map 21” was ordering the cars to switch to a lower output engine or fuel mode using a mapping dial on the steering wheel, effectively suggesting to the drivers to just take care of the cars/engines and bring them home in their current positions.
I think F1 starting in 2026 should make a rule to ban team orders when it comes to telling one of there drivers to slow down for there teammate and let there teammate pass them. Also make it a rule that driver must give 100% the full length of the race. An if there caught giving team orders the team gets a 50 point constructor penalty and also for first offense $100,000 fine, 2nd offense $500,000 fine and loss of all constructors points for the race in which the infraction happened, 3rd offense 1 million fine and ban from winning the constructors title that year and suspension of the team principal for the remainder of that year and a $1 million fine for the team principal. I know some won’t agree but I believe all teams and drivers should race hard every race and it shouldn’t matter if this driver needs point or that driver that needs the points but should be whatever driver leads should win not slow down for the teammate. Teams and drivers should just drive hard and drive to win races
I like the sliding scale for team orders penalties. Not sure how you could enforce drivers giving 100%. Tbh I think they already do but in a different metric to just pure lap time
Great video the only thing i will say is the Lando Norris one yes clearly should never of happened it was stupid of mclaren to put norris in such a way that he would swipe the lead from Oscar but for some reason everyone seems to think McLaren did this and then did team orders to move Lando out the way when in fact McLaren knowing they would under cut oscar aaid to Lando before the stop that when Oscar came out if the pits after his stop that they would swap positions back so yes obviously it was dumb on McLaren's side to even put themselves in the position they were in but with lando he should never of agreed to do what the team were asking from minute one not agreed wait untill he was in the lead and then said well you should of pitted Oscar first As for everyone who said well Oscar couldnt even catch up i think it was intentional if he had caught up to Lando and spent the next 20 laps sitting smack bang right in the middle of Lando,s turbulent air he would of been a sitting duck when Lando let him through Lando would easily of got him back so brcause they were so far ahead of position three in race and as far as Oscar was concerned he would of been allowed straight back into the lead he would of said to himself well theres no way am i going to run in hot turbulent tyre killing air whilst McLaren beg and plead to get Lando to move because when he does he will just take the lead back Lando should of followed up withwhat he had agreed to let Oscar through and then spent the rest of the race trying to take it back Dont get me wrong tbis isnt an attack on Lando Oscar or either of there fan bases the whole situation was McLarens fault as for Lando and Oscar fans if you are a certain drivers fan especially if you arr passionate about that driver and the sport in general its very difficult to look at things in an unbiased way which is Uno as it will always be The fans that are the issue are the ones who see things there way and cant even fotr wharever reason accept the real facts and on top of that just be non stop toxic to anybody who doesn't share there own opinion be it right or wrong those fans need to get in the fucking bin really dont they sorry i went on a mini rant then the worse incident on this list by a very long way was the ferrari at Austria one that one just blew my mind back then the other ferrari one involving Alonso wasnt made worse by everyone acting like ferrari hadn't given a team order in bad disguise because dont forget at this point in time team orders were banned ironically in part due to the Ferrari Austria incident ao they couldnt just admit that it was infact a team order they would of literally been dropping the team right into it after that incident though the F.I.A realised it was impossible to police so unbanned team orders lol a Ferrari team order gets team orders banned and a Ferrari team order got them un banned omly Ferrari could achieve such things
That McLaren teamorder was a pure mess. They wanted to undo their own mistake by pit Lando before Oscar. Totally unnecessary and Lando should never let Oscar through. Especially after Monza.
Piastri was robbed of his 1st race win... If you don't believe me listen to the on board radio of Piastri's vs any other 1 race win of any driver... Absolute disgrace... It's a lil surprising to me that Oscar didn't say F it let him have it...
I think it would have showed real character for Oscar to say “not like this” to being given P1 and the win. But look at how he’s performed since tbf. Not been a team player much for Lando lol and he’s outscored him on points too
Oscar was faster than Lando in the first stint and took the lead through his own good driving. This is a track that some commentators were calling Monaco without walls so track position is everything. Because it is hard to pass. Piastri was faster than Norris in the second stint and even with a 4 second error was still 2 seconds ahead of Lando. Lando only got ahead of Oscar because McLaren were overly cautious wanting to protect the 1-2 from Hamilton undercutting Lando if the pit crew made a mistake. After the undercut that gave Lando the lead unearned, he and Oscar were both immediately told they would be reestablishing the race order. This is the only stint when Lando was faster. Lando was told to preserve his tyres and ignored the order to push in an act of petulance. Meanwhile Oscars radio immediately after coming out of the pits behind Lando was, “Bring the tyres in, bring the tyres in. Don’t worry about Lando.” Oscar’s followed this instruction to preserve tyre wear. So yeah. If you think Lando outpacing Oscar when he had unearned clean air and when he was pushing and Oscar wasn’t then well done on being so oblivious. Oscar was not gifted a win. Oscar was robbed of the joy of a win because Lando threatened to steal an unearned win. If Lando had given up the position immediately then he MAY have been told he could race Oscar for 20 laps. But as Lando admitted after the race he acted out of his selfishness. The Andreas interview after the race said there is no place in McLaren for someone who isn’t a team player. This was clearly directed at the course of action Lando seems determined to take until the warning that his engineer was trying to protect Lando. As it was Lando lost trust and gained nothing.
Maybe you didn’t understand my take properly. My opinion is that they should have boxed their lead driver (in this instance Oscar) first - the way every team does in 99% of scenarios. I actually lean more towards Oscar than Lando in terms of preference but both are amazing drivers. I try not to have opinions in my videos though as I don’t think it’s important - but this was a wide open own goal from McLaren you gotta admit that 😂😅 Thanks for watching dude! 👊🏼
@@jakemorganGP I didn't not understand your take, and I agree with McLaren strategy L. It's only that, you made a great video that new fans might look to for learning about the sport. So I thought I'd just point it out as something to look out for because even you could tell who I thought you were being biased towards. Thanks for the reply, though and keep making great videos, always here for the ferrari bad strategy jokes.
@remooshie1850 haha thanks mate. I didn’t see that when I was writing the video lol but I see it now 😆. And yes - there will always be Ferrari jokes here… but the real joke’s on me as a Hamilton fan turned Ferrari fan next year 🤡
The Bottas thing ,that's why it's Team Hamilton,and the end of it ...the Broken Arrows... objective only for Hamilton fans...bias,you should put on the name of the video Hamilton fan opinion....
I mean… not really bias is it. Hamilton was 100 points ahead of Bottas in the championship going into Russia… and was only 25 points ahead of Vettel… they did what they had to to secure both championships. And also - would you not also favour the driver that has done nothing but perform and win your team titles and make your multi-billion dollar company look good? I know I would 🤷🏻♂️
@@jakemorganGP you are half way right about Hamilton,but I noticed biased thinking through the whole video, noticed A Mercedes, Hamilton fanatic who hates Ferrari,and now when Hamilton will join Ferrari,you will taste how it is when there is no Team Hamilton,but Team Ferrari,and two strong drivers driving Ferrari,at the end it will depend mostly on the Ferrari cars and the people working on the upgrades,if they do good work,I am sure that either Hamilton will become the GOAT with 8 titles,or Charles first championship....in my opinion it will be a good season to watch the next one,even better than this season,6 players will fight for the title,and there will be plenty material for you to bargain,with bad decisions and bad mistakes,no biased,4sure...
@Raygamamaama1234 i’m actually a Ferrai fan so you’ve completely misread the situation. I can’t wait to be a Tisfosi for real next year with Hamilton on the team. I love Italy and I love Ferrari - but they have a history and stories I will tell without that influencing how I tell them. But on your other point. 2025 is going to be flipping amazing. Ferrari could cook fr I don’t make any bias calls - I just tell stories and say it how it is based on the history of F1 and the general opinions of the events in my videos. The only opinion I gave was my thoughts on the McLaren team orders at Hungary
Why not even bother to mention Michael repaying Rubens at Indianapolis by letting him pass a few feet before the checkered flag later that same year? Yeah, same results in the end, no? Waa! Waa!! Here comes the Waambulance for you complainers!
always a misconception or lets say a mandela effect. let michael pass for the championchip happened in the 2001 Austrian GP, this is why you see Coulthard leading the race and not rubens. rubens let schumi pass for 2nd place that year. the actual message for the 2002 Austrian GP was never heard or seen if i can remember, you just saw him let schumi pass in the end of the race.
Nothing wrong with team orders... they keep emphasizing that F1 is a "team sport", do they not? So deal with it. It's always been part of the sport (even when outlawed for a while, to please the unwashed masses) but the meejah love stirring the sh*t. Personally? I'm gonna PMSL should McLaren's Norris is gonna lose out on the title by less than 8 points. Funny enough, McLaren have won and lost titles by one point (or less even) on as many as four occasions! They should know better.
Ahhh haha thank you. The algorithm is slowly making my videos reach new people. If you liked it, share it with a friend who also likes F1! Word of mouth is super powerful for this stuff
Well yes and no. I don’t think that with dirty air he would have been in any different situation to Piastri. Maybe he would be on his tail the rest of the race but even still I think the team would have done team orders to hold positions
maaan are you jealous about Ferrari, be more objective on all these situations. For you Ferrari has not the right explication to do that but for Mercedes it’s ok. Man these situations are quite the same so or they are all right or they are all wrong.
I’m not at all jealous of Ferrari mate but okay 🤣 Mercedes has solid grounds to do it with Hamilton in 2018 as I clearly showed and explained, but Ferrari did not have a good reason to do it that early on in the season in 2002 (round 5 dude with 3/4 wins so far in the season iirc). And my issue with 2010 Germany was not the team orders themselves - it was the fact they lied to the media/fans. These situations are all completely different mate
Team orders should not be a thing. Race your team mate to get past. It is called racing after all. If you need team orders to pass your team mate, you don't deserve to pass.
Agree about Ferrari and their mistakes BUT why not even bother to mention Michael repaying Rubens at Indianapolis by letting him pass a few feet before the checkered flag later that same year? Yeah, same results in the end, no? Waa! Waa!! Here comes the Waambulance for you complainers! (Did that douchebag of an announcer say Rubens didn't deserve that win? I'll bet not because they hated Schumie because he is still the best driver ever until Verstappen surpasses him in about 3 years.) Also, when is 31 points about forty (2010 Germany)? It's barely thirty and no number rounding system in the world (universe) would round up to 40! Someone call a Waambulance for Webber the lesser driver. Can someone schedule him a short flight down the Mulsanne again? McLaren surely screwed up in Hungary this year, I hope it costs Norris the title by less than 7 points, maybe they'd learn to let their drivers race?
Bro taking no prisoners with this comment lmao. That Indy500 wasn’t actually Michael letting Rubens past - they were supposed to cross the line in formation and Rubens ended up blipping ahead just. But who knows what Schumi was thinking tbf. As for the points in 2010 - the point is still valid mate. And as for Webber - yes he was slower for sure but the team gave a direction and Vettel was selfish to ignore that. That the issue with those team orders
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norris made it difficult yes, but as rosberg jr said, mclaren's way of 'asking' was stupid, you dont ask, you instruct if it's alr been decided
Good point
You mean emotional blackmail isn't an effective means of communication? 😂
I am not surprised that Ferrari'd make the list a lot of times.
🤣🤣🤣 yup. The strategy masterclass goes way beyond their amazing pit strategies
Ferrari master 🅱️lan always😂
Wait until 2025.....
Regime apologists
Un-honorable mention: Brazil 2022
With Max just cutting off his radio when Perez let him trough to try and take Alonso P5, with him later trying to justify it with „reasons he made over the summer”, most fans speculating that the „reasons” meant Sergios infamous turn 9 inchident at Monaco
That’s a good one to throw in there 🙌🏼
@@jakemorganGP hurt me even more as i’m a Checo fan 😞
Maybe if Max gave Checo back, there would be even closer chance for him to take the 2nd in the standings
@Kacper_Akarii yeah. Max is definitely only in it for himself it seems. At least from a career perspective. He seems like a good family man and friend. But he’s ruthless on track
Tbh I've always understood max here even though I don't like him that much, teams usually let faster car through, max would've passed eventually, they tell checo to let max past but because max didn't catch someone else up he has tp slow down to let his slower team mate back past?
Perez clearly did deliberately crash.
with the 2002 incident, micheal gave rubens the win in america later that year as a sort of thank you
Actually iirc I believe Rubens was the one that accelerated to take it just lol. But I need to have another look at that
And Max couldn't help Checo in Brazil to achieve 2nd, even after his solid defence against Hamilton the year prior.
Max does make it difficult to like him when he’s like that. I get it, but on the other hand it’s not right
@@jakemorganGP He did also follow Rubens home in Hungary without attempting to pass later in 2002. So he gave a couple of races back, US may of been an accident but he did give back in interest.
@trueultimagod2465 yeah that’s fairs
Many people seem to forget that Ferrari did the same exact thing in Austria 2001. Except Michael was in 3rd and Ruebens was in 2nd. The clip of Jean Todt saying let michael pass for the championship is actually from that first incident.
"Papaya Rules"
The silliest name I’ve heard for team orders icl lol
Silliest explanation too, should've just said it means we'll give everything to oscar
Barrichello wanted to make sure everyone knew he threw it…
9:08 had Bottas not’ve had issues during the season through no fault of his own (barring Australia) then he would’ve been closer in the standings
Great point
yeah I think it does go under the radar that Bottas was pretty strong in 2018 but was unbelievably unlucky
@drgachipoggington9387 story of his life in F1 icl 😅
In Russia 2018 they also used Hamilton's clash with Vettel a bit earlier as an excuse for the swap, saying they were afraid Vettel was gonna try agressive launches on Hamilton and stuff. You can see it in the official highlights I believe.
Interesting. I get it. And I think it was a necessary move. We have to remember that none of the teams care about how the sport looks per se if it secures them money and the championship(s). The only time they (usually Horner lol) will bring up the sport’s reputation will be when it’s to suit their own agenda. It’s like government politics but with cool cars and smarter people 😄
The Ferrari comment about Carlos Sainz touched my heart. I thought among all those toxic delusional Leclerc fans I was the only who sees Carlos unappreciated talent and how he is on a level with Leclerc most of the time. thank you my friend! Also great choices in the vid
I rate Carlos so highly and he’s had such a tough run of it. He’s not really felt welcome at any team he’s been at. Torro Rosso/Red Bull, Renault, McLaren, Ferrari. I hope Williams live up to what he deserves as an incredibly talented driver
@@jakemorganGP yes you are so right. I mean McLaren kinda appreciated him but later it got all eyes on young talent Lando. So I hope Williams can get him a competitive car come 2026 because at least they definitely appreciate everything he brings to the team
Yeah I think they made Lando their priority and then they got the opportunity to sign what looked like prime Daniel Ricciardo so had to jump on it
@@jakemorganGP true... How did that work for them? xD
Lol
1999 Belgian Grand Prix - Coulthard inexpiably finishing in front of Hakkinen, costing him 4 valuable points
Great point. Maybe I should do a follow up if the McLaren team orders continues to be this bad
McLaren was in their goody little two shoes mode against the “evil cheating” Ferrari. I was screaming at the TV. Get your hands dirty for once and order Coulthard to give up the position! I was fed up with Ferrari bending anything and everything for their advantage but McLaren stubbornly did the “right” (idiotic) thing. Fortunately Mika did it all by himself and won by his superb drive at Suzuka.
Poor Seb... He had pole position at Hockenheim and was set to win the 2010 German Grand Prix, only to be beaten by both Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa straight away... Thankfully, he would eventually win the title later that year, in Abu Dhabi!
Crazy how he won it never leading the title table until the final race as well
The reason people were outraged with the Massa Alonso one was because Massa had his accident almost one year to the day before the 2010 German GP (one day difference) and hadn’t won a race since. There was a huge sentimental feeling from fans of how good that story would have been and Ferrari robbed Massa, the sport and the history books of it.
Great point
5:00 I remember Eddie was a little terrier post-race. Trying to get answers from the Ferrari grandfromage.
Austria 2002 was a key memory for me. I always rooted against Schumacher (despite him undeniable being one of the GOATs) and seeing this blatant interference in his favour from Ferrari in a season where he never needed it was just infuriating. But him trying to cheer up Barrichello and admitting that he didn't feel he'd gotten the win on merit earned him a lot of respect from me. And at the end of that season, he repaid Barrichello by letting him through on the final straight of the US GP.
(According to that season's "yearbook" which was released in Germany, Michael asked Jean Todt if he could let Rubens by to make up for the Austria affair. Todt said no and Michael did it anyway. He then pretended to have tried to create a "photo finish" with him being first by a tiny margin. If that story is true, it's pretty funny.)
*undeniably. ffs I hate touchscreens
Yeah when I was researching this I gained a lot of respect for him as well. He’s a class act when he wants to be 😂
@@FHT1883He trying to make it look better backfired badly and FIA banned team orders.
The FIA didn't banned team orders because it was bad, they banned it because the media mocked them for Micheal trying to make it look good.
Absolute joke moment.
13:52 right as you mentioned Bowser's castle I was simultaneously playing on one of Bowser's Castles in Mario Kart 8 deluxe 😭
u missed the ultimate team order the crashgate
I knoowwww. I literally realised yesterday lmao. But will probs do a video on it in a later post
"ask Seb"
"oi Seb. wat does Sbinnala mean?"
"it's a meme from the future. you can't get the reference yet."
"…"
"…"
"just crash, ok?"
"say no more"
@FHT1883 S🅱️INALLA
tottaly nobody expected ferrari🙃
Hehehe. Who’da guessed it…
Nice video. Just to clarify, the actual meaning of the phrase “Multi-map 21” was ordering the cars to switch to a lower output engine or fuel mode using a mapping dial on the steering wheel, effectively suggesting to the drivers to just take care of the cars/engines and bring them home in their current positions.
Not quite mate. It was a coded message to make it sound like an engine mapping but it wasn’t actually for the engine
@@jakemorganGPagreed, in Brazil 2012, Mark got a "Multi Map 12" message and he let Seb through, confirming what you said in the video
Norris just winning, he not fighting for the championship😂😂😂
It’s very unlikely tbf
I think F1 starting in 2026 should make a rule to ban team orders when it comes to telling one of there drivers to slow down for there teammate and let there teammate pass them. Also make it a rule that driver must give 100% the full length of the race. An if there caught giving team orders the team gets a 50 point constructor penalty and also for first offense $100,000 fine, 2nd offense $500,000 fine and loss of all constructors points for the race in which the infraction happened, 3rd offense 1 million fine and ban from winning the constructors title that year and suspension of the team principal for the remainder of that year and a $1 million fine for the team principal. I know some won’t agree but I believe all teams and drivers should race hard every race and it shouldn’t matter if this driver needs point or that driver that needs the points but should be whatever driver leads should win not slow down for the teammate. Teams and drivers should just drive hard and drive to win races
I like the sliding scale for team orders penalties. Not sure how you could enforce drivers giving 100%. Tbh I think they already do but in a different metric to just pure lap time
You shitting on Stroll sealed the deal for me. Subscribed.
🤣 its like an internationally understood language spoken only by F1 fans. Welcome 🙌🏼🤝🏽
To be fair to Ferrari, Fernando was faster than him 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🧏♂️🗿
Facts 🗿🗿🏎️💨💥
Until 2005 of course
Great video the only thing i will say is the Lando Norris one yes clearly should never of happened it was stupid of mclaren to put norris in such a way that he would swipe the lead from Oscar but for some reason everyone seems to think McLaren did this and then did team orders to move Lando out the way when in fact McLaren knowing they would under cut oscar aaid to Lando before the stop that when Oscar came out if the pits after his stop that they would swap positions back so yes obviously it was dumb on McLaren's side to even put themselves in the position they were in but with lando he should never of agreed to do what the team were asking from minute one not agreed wait untill he was in the lead and then said well you should of pitted Oscar first
As for everyone who said well Oscar couldnt even catch up i think it was intentional if he had caught up to Lando and spent the next 20 laps sitting smack bang right in the middle of Lando,s turbulent air he would of been a sitting duck when Lando let him through Lando would easily of got him back so brcause they were so far ahead of position three in race and as far as Oscar was concerned he would of been allowed straight back into the lead he would of said to himself well theres no way am i going to run in hot turbulent tyre killing air whilst McLaren beg and plead to get Lando to move because when he does he will just take the lead back
Lando should of followed up withwhat he had agreed to let Oscar through and then spent the rest of the race trying to take it back
Dont get me wrong tbis isnt an attack on Lando Oscar or either of there fan bases the whole situation was McLarens fault as for Lando and Oscar fans if you are a certain drivers fan especially if you arr passionate about that driver and the sport in general its very difficult to look at things in an unbiased way which is Uno as it will always be
The fans that are the issue are the ones who see things there way and cant even fotr wharever reason accept the real facts and on top of that just be non stop toxic to anybody who doesn't share there own opinion be it right or wrong those fans need to get in the fucking bin really dont they sorry i went on a mini rant then the worse incident on this list by a very long way was the ferrari at Austria one that one just blew my mind back then the other ferrari one involving Alonso wasnt made worse by everyone acting like ferrari hadn't given a team order in bad disguise because dont forget at this point in time team orders were banned ironically in part due to the Ferrari Austria incident ao they couldnt just admit that it was infact a team order they would of literally been dropping the team right into it after that incident though the F.I.A realised it was impossible to police so unbanned team orders lol a Ferrari team order gets team orders banned and a Ferrari team order got them un banned omly Ferrari could achieve such things
Some good points here mate. Thanks for watching! 🙌🏼
That McLaren teamorder was a pure mess. They wanted to undo their own mistake by pit Lando before Oscar. Totally unnecessary and Lando should never let Oscar through. Especially after Monza.
Hungary was before Monza you numpty
Loved the video. Next time lower the music volume a bit so I can hear you better, cheers! :)
Thanks for the feedback!
3:35 The original GOAT
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Making Lando, who has some chance of winning the championship give up his position is a decision so idiotic, that even Ferrari could be jelaous of it.
Ferrari: “write that down”
Ohh… so thats what Multi 21 means 😮 i thought it was Abudhadi 2021😂
Hahaha no. That’s usually referred to as AD21. I can see how it might be confused tho lol
If lando misses WDC by less than 10 points than it's McLaren fault. And lando will be robbed
And if it’s 1 point it’s Ricciardo the goat’s fault 😉😆
It would of been so good to watch multi 21 live 😂
Fr lol. I miss Malaysia :(
what about belgium 98 and hill whining on the radio to eddie jordan
Definitely a controversial team order
Piastri was robbed of his 1st race win... If you don't believe me listen to the on board radio of Piastri's vs any other 1 race win of any driver... Absolute disgrace... It's a lil surprising to me that Oscar didn't say F it let him have it...
I think it would have showed real character for Oscar to say “not like this” to being given P1 and the win. But look at how he’s performed since tbf. Not been a team player much for Lando lol and he’s outscored him on points too
His team made a mistake and he was ultimately slower and failed to catch up to Lando. Not much of a robbery when you're not quick enough
Oscar was faster than Lando in the first stint and took the lead through his own good driving. This is a track that some commentators were calling Monaco without walls so track position is everything. Because it is hard to pass. Piastri was faster than Norris in the second stint and even with a 4 second error was still 2 seconds ahead of Lando. Lando only got ahead of Oscar because McLaren were overly cautious wanting to protect the 1-2 from Hamilton undercutting Lando if the pit crew made a mistake. After the undercut that gave Lando the lead unearned, he and Oscar were both immediately told they would be reestablishing the race order. This is the only stint when Lando was faster. Lando was told to preserve his tyres and ignored the order to push in an act of petulance. Meanwhile Oscars radio immediately after coming out of the pits behind Lando was, “Bring the tyres in, bring the tyres in. Don’t worry about Lando.” Oscar’s followed this instruction to preserve tyre wear. So yeah. If you think Lando outpacing Oscar when he had unearned clean air and when he was pushing and Oscar wasn’t then well done on being so oblivious. Oscar was not gifted a win. Oscar was robbed of the joy of a win because Lando threatened to steal an unearned win. If Lando had given up the position immediately then he MAY have been told he could race Oscar for 20 laps. But as Lando admitted after the race he acted out of his selfishness. The Andreas interview after the race said there is no place in McLaren for someone who isn’t a team player. This was clearly directed at the course of action Lando seems determined to take until the warning that his engineer was trying to protect Lando. As it was Lando lost trust and gained nothing.
@@jakemorganGPwhy? He didn’t try to snake his teammate.
after all baricello did to schumi he tried to put him in wall 😢😢
What race was that again? Icr
I'm not sure if fans actually hate team orders now lol
Lol. McLaren making a mess of them won’t make it better
Loved the video, but the bias on the last one was strong
Maybe you didn’t understand my take properly.
My opinion is that they should have boxed their lead driver (in this instance Oscar) first - the way every team does in 99% of scenarios. I actually lean more towards Oscar than Lando in terms of preference but both are amazing drivers. I try not to have opinions in my videos though as I don’t think it’s important - but this was a wide open own goal from McLaren you gotta admit that 😂😅
Thanks for watching dude! 👊🏼
@@jakemorganGP I didn't not understand your take, and I agree with McLaren strategy L. It's only that, you made a great video that new fans might look to for learning about the sport. So I thought I'd just point it out as something to look out for because even you could tell who I thought you were being biased towards. Thanks for the reply, though and keep making great videos, always here for the ferrari bad strategy jokes.
@remooshie1850 haha thanks mate. I didn’t see that when I was writing the video lol but I see it now 😆. And yes - there will always be Ferrari jokes here… but the real joke’s on me as a Hamilton fan turned Ferrari fan next year 🤡
what about the team order this year with yuki and daniel, i dont remember what track it was maybe china
I must have missed that. Can’t say I’m surprised. Yuki is fighting a losing battle in RB
Less commentary, more evidence.
What’s that about?
The Bottas thing ,that's why it's Team Hamilton,and the end of it ...the Broken Arrows... objective only for Hamilton fans...bias,you should put on the name of the video Hamilton fan opinion....
I mean… not really bias is it. Hamilton was 100 points ahead of Bottas in the championship going into Russia… and was only 25 points ahead of Vettel… they did what they had to to secure both championships. And also - would you not also favour the driver that has done nothing but perform and win your team titles and make your multi-billion dollar company look good? I know I would 🤷🏻♂️
@@jakemorganGP you are half way right about Hamilton,but I noticed biased thinking through the whole video, noticed A Mercedes, Hamilton fanatic who hates Ferrari,and now when Hamilton will join Ferrari,you will taste how it is when there is no Team Hamilton,but Team Ferrari,and two strong drivers driving Ferrari,at the end it will depend mostly on the Ferrari cars and the people working on the upgrades,if they do good work,I am sure that either Hamilton will become the GOAT with 8 titles,or Charles first championship....in my opinion it will be a good season to watch the next one,even better than this season,6 players will fight for the title,and there will be plenty material for you to bargain,with bad decisions and bad mistakes,no biased,4sure...
@Raygamamaama1234 i’m actually a Ferrai fan so you’ve completely misread the situation. I can’t wait to be a Tisfosi for real next year with Hamilton on the team.
I love Italy and I love Ferrari - but they have a history and stories I will tell without that influencing how I tell them.
But on your other point. 2025 is going to be flipping amazing. Ferrari could cook fr
I don’t make any bias calls - I just tell stories and say it how it is based on the history of F1 and the general opinions of the events in my videos.
The only opinion I gave was my thoughts on the McLaren team orders at Hungary
Lando is gonna get Webbered fs.
Hope not. But tbf Piastri is that good. He just needs a bit more time
Everyone forgetting Spain and Azerbaijan 2022 when Perez gave up two wins to Verstappen
Facts
Max finished 20 seconds ahead of him in both lmao
Max finished 20 seconds ahead of him in both lmao
I feel bad for rubes
Yeah same here :(
Why not even bother to mention Michael repaying Rubens at Indianapolis by letting him pass a few feet before the checkered flag later that same year? Yeah, same results in the end, no? Waa! Waa!! Here comes the Waambulance for you complainers!
always a misconception or lets say a mandela effect. let michael pass for the championchip happened in the 2001 Austrian GP, this is why you see Coulthard leading the race and not rubens. rubens let schumi pass for 2nd place that year. the actual message for the 2002 Austrian GP was never heard or seen if i can remember, you just saw him let schumi pass in the end of the race.
That radio message was in the same video as the footage of Rubens letting Michael through…
Great video
Thanks mate!
Where’s crash gate ?
I knowwwww. I legit woke up this morning screaming at myself because I forgot crash gate in this video. Probs deserves its own video tbf lol
Nothing wrong with team orders... they keep emphasizing that F1 is a "team sport", do they not? So deal with it. It's always been part of the sport (even when outlawed for a while, to please the unwashed masses) but the meejah love stirring the sh*t.
Personally? I'm gonna PMSL should McLaren's Norris is gonna lose out on the title by less than 8 points. Funny enough, McLaren have won and lost titles by one point (or less even) on as many as four occasions! They should know better.
I think Team Orders are ok in some contexts as I discussed in the video but they were so dumb in Hungary 🤣
Lando belongs nowhere near this list
I just needed an excuse to talk about it 😂
Incoming Oscar Piastri nasty comments from the Salty Pommy mob😂😅.
Thx
7:25 theres no link in the description
well made video!
Thank you 🙏🏼
how am i only just seeing your videos now 😮 this is so well done!
Ahhh haha thank you. The algorithm is slowly making my videos reach new people. If you liked it, share it with a friend who also likes F1! Word of mouth is super powerful for this stuff
That's bs 2018 he wanted to quite because of his divorce
I mean… it’s not. He did multiple interviews about the team orders issues.
I’m sure that was probably a factor though tbf
Pole
"Ayrton, Alain is faster than you"
Senna: " Well, he can try"
If Lando had given up the position to Oscar immediately he would’ve had the chance to win on merit, but he tried to guilt trip them
Well yes and no. I don’t think that with dirty air he would have been in any different situation to Piastri. Maybe he would be on his tail the rest of the race but even still I think the team would have done team orders to hold positions
maaan are you jealous about Ferrari, be more objective on all these situations. For you Ferrari has not the right explication to do that but for Mercedes it’s ok. Man these situations are quite the same so or they are all right or they are all wrong.
I’m not at all jealous of Ferrari mate but okay 🤣 Mercedes has solid grounds to do it with Hamilton in 2018 as I clearly showed and explained, but Ferrari did not have a good reason to do it that early on in the season in 2002 (round 5 dude with 3/4 wins so far in the season iirc).
And my issue with 2010 Germany was not the team orders themselves - it was the fact they lied to the media/fans.
These situations are all completely different mate
Team orders should not be a thing. Race your team mate to get past. It is called racing after all. If you need team orders to pass your team mate, you don't deserve to pass.
Examples of what u claim to be worst orders should be shown in clips not scripted dialogue.
I did show the team orders in clips… I’m confused 🤣
@@jakemorganGP just an input on preference, we’re here for team orders, as title suggests. Less is more.
Agree about Ferrari and their mistakes BUT why not even bother to mention Michael repaying Rubens at Indianapolis by letting him pass a few feet before the checkered flag later that same year? Yeah, same results in the end, no? Waa! Waa!! Here comes the Waambulance for you complainers! (Did that douchebag of an announcer say Rubens didn't deserve that win? I'll bet not because they hated Schumie because he is still the best driver ever until Verstappen surpasses him in about 3 years.)
Also, when is 31 points about forty (2010 Germany)? It's barely thirty and no number rounding system in the world (universe) would round up to 40!
Someone call a Waambulance for Webber the lesser driver. Can someone schedule him a short flight down the Mulsanne again?
McLaren surely screwed up in Hungary this year, I hope it costs Norris the title by less than 7 points, maybe they'd learn to let their drivers race?
Bro taking no prisoners with this comment lmao.
That Indy500 wasn’t actually Michael letting Rubens past - they were supposed to cross the line in formation and Rubens ended up blipping ahead just. But who knows what Schumi was thinking tbf.
As for the points in 2010 - the point is still valid mate.
And as for Webber - yes he was slower for sure but the team gave a direction and Vettel was selfish to ignore that. That the issue with those team orders