I don't know what I should think of all this sound processing stuff like of this NAD box outside home cinema setups 🤔 But watching you fingering around with this microphone and the Spongebob snippets were definitely worth it 🔥🐹🔥
It's great that more manufacturers include Dirac or equivalent into their (stereo) amps. Dirac Live can really up the game, especially for bass (issues) and/or roommodes. My best investement was a Dirac Live enabled MiniDSP Flex, REW and a Umik 1 mic. You have to fiddle around a bit and experiment for best mic positions, but once set it's done, unless you fall into the trap: can it be even better? 😅 Nice vid and demo, Klipsch did an outstanding job with the RPM II.
DIRAC may rock, but seeing the setup I'm happy I went with TDAI3400 and RoomPerfect, it's so nice and easy to set up. That being said, I didn't get much correction with my Focal Kanta 2, just some lowering of the bass. PS: I can recommend Carmen McRae's version of "Just a little lovin'"
My observations are in acoustically untreated rooms (treated room is at least absorption of first reflections on all four sides + some bass absorbers) at avg. listening volume over 72 or max 75 dB, its reflections starts to interfere with the sound stage in such manner that many finer frequencies (across all Hz spectrum), details, nuances, layering, imagining etc in the sound stage are getting messed up and somehow lost, especially at avg. listening volume 80 dB+. It means it does smear the source qualities, so it also smears the gears' differences. If you can in untreated room hear clear difference between triode and linear or other modes with tube amp at cca avg. 70 dB listening volume, at over 80 dB or 85 dB would be the same sound stage mess, just noise and for me unbearable for focused or relaxing listening, especially with more open, brighter (a good ones) speakers. But I can also notice that a part of listeners or audiophiles - their register - are not sensitive to such issues, they simply do not notice such changes in frequency responses in the music. They are more orientated on tactile effects of music presentation - mostly the bass amount or effect. Volume= EQ. Somehow yes it is, or the volume can be also considered as adjusting the room's frequency response.
A really nice little film. It was great to see the process. What was your impression of the NAD C399 with BluOS? I’m looking at investing in this system. I’m looking for something with a weighty sound and good detail up top. Thank you.
I am lost is Dirac Off just NAD PEQ and tone controls off? My hunch is that music sounds more compelling with Dirac off. Maybe with external amplifiers connected to the preamp processor; the Dirac results especially when there is PEQ DB increases will sound better than an integrated when driven louder? I would be afraid to use Dirac and PEQ with multichannel SACD / DSD since most equalization is re-sampled to 48 khz.
Many systems sounds more "exciting" initially when you hear "lumbs and bumps" in the response, but it quickly wear off during longer sessions, where most appreciate the even response made possible by systems like Dirac. At least , thats my experience working with countless music lovers. It does not make your experience wrong in any way. I myself, often find myself having second thoughts after during longer sessions or even weeks apart. Thats one of the aspects I really love with sound... Just listen and feel. Thats what music should be about.
How would DIRAC perform in low volume listening sessions? Do you have to take your measurements at low volumes? Can you build in a Fletcher Munson curve adjustment?
It would need to be volume dependent. So its a moving bar, not possible. You could do 5 different target curves adjusted for your preference at 5 different levels if you wanted. Quite nerdy solution, but possible. :-) I will cover more on LCC in the coming Buchardt A10 speaker review, that for one has LCC built into the speaker!
there is a small tweak with c399...the fuse change to a better one and also soldering fast connectors on power input (beacause they are lousy)...after that the midrange becomes crazy deep, the bass tight and highs more fluid, as it should be...yes you gonna lose the warranty so yolo or nolo :)
Really, measuring hand-held? No budget for a tripod? C'mon... Note that Dirac will also do in-band phase alignment which greatly improves on detail and imaging (which is what you complain about!). Having the mic waving about in your hand won't do that any good... Note you can do a (literal) pin-point target curve, not just the sliders at the side by clicking the dot in the Group 1 box. Dirac allows for headroom and with 24 bits to play with, there's no impact with 16 bit content and it's doubtful if the effects of headroom reserved would be noticeable with true 24 bit content. The NAD remote control has an EQ button. With that button you can scroll through the Dirac presets, nice and easy. A case of RTFM? Also, compensating for age-related hearing loss is not possible and any attempt will sound very unnatural to the individual with such hearing loss. We perceive reality by sound matching what we're used to hear. Compensating for more energy above the area where loss starts occurring will just sound very unnatural as that is what the individual is not used to hear. As someone else said, these vids are hugely enjoyable. problem is, for the wrong reason. Pls do some homework before posting silly vids...
@@stjernholmreviewsI guess I didn't get that. as a TH-cam presenter you have a responsibility, being seen as an authority and your observations are held for truth even if they're incorrect. Just do the work and make sure you know what you're talking about and/or figure it out beforehand. Just ad libbing it spreads wrong information. Just spend the extra hour to familiarise yourself with what you'll be talking about. Thanks in advance.
These experimence vids are really hugely enjoyable! :-)
As always amazing review with comparison. Thanks.
I don't know what I should think of all this sound processing stuff like of this NAD box outside home cinema setups 🤔
But watching you fingering around with this microphone and the Spongebob snippets were definitely worth it
🔥🐹🔥
That's no hifi 😂
Another great video. Thank you.
Very interesting. I found the vocals much smoother and a touch warmer with Dirac on.
It's great that more manufacturers include Dirac or equivalent into their (stereo) amps. Dirac Live can really up the game, especially for bass (issues) and/or roommodes. My best investement was a Dirac Live enabled MiniDSP Flex, REW and a Umik 1 mic. You have to fiddle around a bit and experiment for best mic positions, but once set it's done, unless you fall into the trap: can it be even better? 😅
Nice vid and demo, Klipsch did an outstanding job with the RPM II.
Been watching lots of your videos, damn you’re good. So much fun to watch.
Thank you man! I AM GLAD YOU ARE ENTERTAINED with the hobby.
Very nice video!! Hard to hear from back here. Thank you
Thank you sir. And THANK YOU for following the channel
What app are you using on the phone to show the SPL and frequency response?
Decibel X
Klipsch are know for off the charts measurements so they will sound different on a standard curve
DIRAC may rock, but seeing the setup I'm happy I went with TDAI3400 and RoomPerfect, it's so nice and easy to set up. That being said, I didn't get much correction with my Focal Kanta 2, just some lowering of the bass.
PS: I can recommend Carmen McRae's version of "Just a little lovin'"
Room Perfect didnt try to bring down the highs and boost some upper midrange with the Kanta 2s?
My observations are in acoustically untreated rooms (treated room is at least absorption of first reflections on all four sides + some bass absorbers) at avg. listening volume over 72 or max 75 dB, its reflections starts to interfere with the sound stage in such manner that many finer frequencies (across all Hz spectrum), details, nuances, layering, imagining etc in the sound stage are getting messed up and somehow lost, especially at avg. listening volume 80 dB+. It means it does smear the source qualities, so it also smears the gears' differences. If you can in untreated room hear clear difference between triode and linear or other modes with tube amp at cca avg. 70 dB listening volume, at over 80 dB or 85 dB would be the same sound stage mess, just noise and for me unbearable for focused or relaxing listening, especially with more open, brighter (a good ones) speakers. But I can also notice that a part of listeners or audiophiles - their register - are not sensitive to such issues, they simply do not notice such changes in frequency responses in the music. They are more orientated on tactile effects of music presentation - mostly the bass amount or effect. Volume= EQ. Somehow yes it is, or the volume can be also considered as adjusting the room's frequency response.
Thank you for sharing. get subscribed :-)
@@stjernholmreviews I already am.
A really nice little film. It was great to see the process. What was your impression of the NAD C399 with BluOS? I’m looking at investing in this system. I’m looking for something with a weighty sound and good detail up top. Thank you.
you have to control your amp via blueos, so it is much more easy to change the dirac filters
Yes, indeed.
I am lost is Dirac Off just NAD PEQ and tone controls off?
My hunch is that music sounds more compelling with Dirac off. Maybe with external amplifiers connected to the preamp processor; the Dirac results especially when there is PEQ DB increases will sound better than an integrated when driven louder?
I would be afraid to use Dirac and PEQ with multichannel SACD / DSD since most equalization is re-sampled to 48 khz.
Many systems sounds more "exciting" initially when you hear "lumbs and bumps" in the response, but it quickly wear off during longer sessions, where most appreciate the even response made possible by systems like Dirac. At least , thats my experience working with countless music lovers.
It does not make your experience wrong in any way. I myself, often find myself having second thoughts after during longer sessions or even weeks apart. Thats one of the aspects I really love with sound... Just listen and feel. Thats what music should be about.
How would DIRAC perform in low volume listening sessions? Do you have to take your measurements at low volumes? Can you build in a Fletcher Munson curve adjustment?
It would need to be volume dependent. So its a moving bar, not possible. You could do 5 different target curves adjusted for your preference at 5 different levels if you wanted. Quite nerdy solution, but possible. :-)
I will cover more on LCC in the coming Buchardt A10 speaker review, that for one has LCC built into the speaker!
Did you made separate Dirac measurements for the Klipsch and the Sourcepoint?
yes ofcurse!
there is a small tweak with c399...the fuse change to a better one and also soldering fast connectors on power input (beacause they are lousy)...after that the midrange becomes crazy deep, the bass tight and highs more fluid, as it should be...yes you gonna lose the warranty so yolo or nolo :)
Really, measuring hand-held? No budget for a tripod? C'mon... Note that Dirac will also do in-band phase alignment which greatly improves on detail and imaging (which is what you complain about!). Having the mic waving about in your hand won't do that any good...
Note you can do a (literal) pin-point target curve, not just the sliders at the side by clicking the dot in the Group 1 box. Dirac allows for headroom and with 24 bits to play with, there's no impact with 16 bit content and it's doubtful if the effects of headroom reserved would be noticeable with true 24 bit content.
The NAD remote control has an EQ button. With that button you can scroll through the Dirac presets, nice and easy. A case of RTFM?
Also, compensating for age-related hearing loss is not possible and any attempt will sound very unnatural to the individual with such hearing loss. We perceive reality by sound matching what we're used to hear. Compensating for more energy above the area where loss starts occurring will just sound very unnatural as that is what the individual is not used to hear.
As someone else said, these vids are hugely enjoyable. problem is, for the wrong reason. Pls do some homework before posting silly vids...
:-) As stated in the video. Just for practical purpose on camera. But you knew that, right?
@@stjernholmreviewsI guess I didn't get that. as a TH-cam presenter you have a responsibility, being seen as an authority and your observations are held for truth even if they're incorrect.
Just do the work and make sure you know what you're talking about and/or figure it out beforehand.
Just ad libbing it spreads wrong information. Just spend the extra hour to familiarise yourself with what you'll be talking about. Thanks in advance.
Are you using the playlist you have shared? or are these some secret Stjernhjolm gems? :)
All tracks we use are usually on the Sonic Snacks Playlist. Check the link tree!