I really, really think Billy is self aware, but also has the most massive ego on the planet and doesn't realize HE is the joke, and we are laughing AT him. I swear, he's Donald Trump of the video game world. Just an absolute buffoon, habitual liar and lolcow
You make it a point that it's strange that anyone would defend Billy Mitchell but, defense attorneys usually DON'T care who they're defending as long as they're paid. Do you think Amber Heard's lawyers truly believed she was innocent and Johnny Depp was abusive? Especially with all the evidence stacked up against her case? I just think that it's not fair to treat the lawyer the same as you treat Billy Mitchell. Yes, he's probably a liar, but that's basically what lawyers are half of the time.
@@d_ruggsMy life is like a video game, trying hard to beat the stage All while I am still collecting coins Trying hard to save the girl, obstacles, I'm jumping hurdles I'm growing up to be a big boy I battle with the evil ways, I travel far and try and save Sorry, but your princess isn't here I take a rest, I push the pause, level up and move along In hopes that the next stage I will clear; I fucking passed, asshole
Karl: *talks about the completionist for a few videos* Billy Mitchell: *wipes sweat of his brow and starts tiptoeing away* Karl: WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING?!
I am starting to feel like Billy and Karl are conspiring, Billy acts like an idiot and Karl makes a video on it and then they split the profits I mean we are only four days in and already this video has grossed a low estimate of $23000. People seem to love this for some reason could you imagine if it turned out to be manufactured theatre for profit? I am not saying I have insider information or anything and I am not trying to make any accusations it's just an idea.
My favorite part is Billy attempting to sound professional and answer every question to the fullest, and his lawyer is literally yelling at him to only answer the question asked, because even the lawyer knows he is as dumb as a bag of rocks.
As someone who studied law, that's just completely standard lawyer advice. NEVER give more in an answer than the person is asking for. You can end up giving away extra ammo to your opponent very easily, or get caught in lies, or your "embellishments" can be further questioned. There's a good reason lawyers tell you to just say yes or no most of the time, and also why during cross examination you want to try and pose more open questions that the witness can't just answer yes or no to, but that also aren't calling for speculation (in which case as you heard in the clip they may not have to answer if judge accepts) or aren't leading the witness (so you can't say "so as a director of the board for IVGHOF you'd have knowledge of what's going on there?"... because whilst this SEEMS like a yes or no question, it's actually leading the witness to accept that they're a director, and whichever answer they give, if they give one, implies that they accept being a director... it's sneaky and you're not allowed to hide such assignations in the facade of asking a question... A good lawyer will object and the judge should smack you down for such a blatant attempt)
maybe cause he didn't want to make it look like he runs the place and so can tell people to lie for him. Dunno how much sense that makes tho. Prbly very little.
Its so funny that Billy tried to shut up a critic with a lawsuit threat and inadvertently created an investigator with all the motive in the world to watch anything and everything pertaining to billys main lawsuit and make it as public as possible. Youre the legend, karl.
@@CadBrad 1 thing to know here. The very best case scenario here is that Billy just continues to lie. He is NOT going to confess and cry. He will just say the court is wrong, and he is right and he will do ZERO different in his life. The 1 and only good that will come from this is more people knowing about is lying. That's it. Sorry.
@@eriklarson9137billy will literally lose millions of dollars if he loses his case against twin galaxies. I don't think you know how big this case is. Twin Galaxies are suing billy mitchell for at least 3 million dollars. That means if billy loses he will LITERALLY be instantly homeless because we all know he doesn't have 3 million dollars, he will have to sell a lot of his belongings to even come close to that amount.
Well for one his new documentary will never come out I bet as Billy wants the happy ending of him getting his records back, the other thing is Billy's reputation may be more damaged than it is already because Walter Day has now switched sides.....if he tells the whole truth then Billy's lies mean nothing@@eriklarson9137
seriously. fucking how OLD is this dude now anyway? and hes living off of something he did ...or sounds like he FAKED he did...when he was like what....twelve? seems sad to me >.>
I don't know what's funnier about this video. Billy's lawyer desperately trying to get him to keep his narcissistic mouth shut to prevent him from digging a deeper hole for himself every 5 seconds, the intermittent clips of Karl slamming Billy in the wrestling ring as video game characters, or simply... "Billy, you silly bitch". Another utterly golden video humiliating this lying buffoon, Karl. You're an absolute legend!
I'm the one who provided the wrestling footage for this video. It was an honor to do so for an absolute legend. There are numerous videos like it on my channel, including another fight between Billy and Karl that sadly was not up to date with Billy's current physical appearance. Karl and I worked together on modifying it to look as he does in this. I hope you all found it to be funny and a nice juxtaposition given the content. Seeing this go live right as 2024 starts local time was an amazing sight for me as well.
I know this is a serious topic, but I can't get over how funny it is to see Karl effectively go: "Hey, Twin Galaxies. I got some more dirt on Billy. You want it?" And Twin Galaxies be like, "Absolutely. Thanks a bunch, Karl. You're the goat."
Most of the people in these comments aren't from the gaming community though. They have just joined in, because people like to hate someone together. Many of them have no idea what it's even about and make dumb comments.
Billy is basically the textbook definition of a pathological liar: Just can't stop lying even when it's actively harmful to them, can't admit to things they lie about being lies, and sometimes even believe the lies their self and won't even acknowledge that they personally said something previously if it contradicts a current lie. For someone like that, you'll never get them to admit guilt no matter how solid and undeniable the proof you have. Which means - even after these legal cases are done and dusted - he will continue to argue his side to the day he dies.
I started following Karl from the goldeneye speed running videos. His research and detail was fantastic and literally made me interested in speed running. Now that we see these videos on billy and completionist, we see a neat translation of research, investigation and detail into these issues. Karl will always be a favourite channel of mine. It sucks that this billy Mitchell case is costing him so much money, but I will watch these billy Mitchell vids for eternity in support and if I had more spare cash I would donate to Karl for sure
My theory on the necessity of this specific lie: The reason is that if it's proven that he's a high-ranking member of the museum, then he could be asked for his plaque, for use as evidence in court. Someone in his position should have absolutely no difficulty in getting a hold of his plaque. He knows that there's something wrong with the plaque, so he needed to get rid of it in some way that makes it unobtainable for the court. That's why he needed to have donated it (the most honorable way of getting rid of it) to a museum. He just didn't expect to be questioned as much about the museum, so he panicked and decided to try to distance himself from the museum as much as possible.
Even if that is true, it really goes to show just how low IQ billy really is. The court could very easily subpoena the plaque from the IVGHOF if it was considered relevant to the case. As soon as they do that and find out that the HOF doesn't have the plaque nor have they ever had it, they know billy is lying.
Once a lawyer has taken on a client, for the duration of a case, they can't just drop him. They have to notify the court with a good reason. Valid reasons might include "he's actively refusing our advice", "he's hired another lawyer", things like that...but for due process reasons, "i found out my client is a scumbag" is not among them. Even scumbags deserve good and zealous legal representation.
Billy's lawyer probably spends most of their in-person meetings just looking at him and saying: "I hate you. I hate you so much. I hate God for giving children terminal illnesses while you still draw breath and I hate the soil you walk on."
Veritas uploaded a (nearly) four hour video detailing the Billy Mitchell saga, and the final 15-25 minutes of Veritas' video is a montage from the disposition but it's just all the times Billy's attorney tells him to "just answer the question." I would recommend the entire video, but if you don't have 4 hours to waste, then I highly recommend watching the final ~30 minutes. It's painfully obvious that Billy can not help himself, and IMO, the montage really illustrates Billy is the epitome of a narcissist.
The fact that the whole Completionist situation was just a sidequest to give Karl the skill needed to 100% Billy Mitchell like it's some kind of Metroidvania.
Lying on a sworn disposition is a felony. Billy is so used to lying because he's always gotten away with it, he doesn't realize lying in court can net him serious jail time.
I really dont care for Billy Mitchell. But to lie under oath about such a miniscule thing. What is this guy thinking? Its like me lying under oath that I had toast, when in reality I had a cinnamon roll. WHO LIES UNDER OATH FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. How insane do you have to be... Its not something that gives him ANYTHING.
@@livinliciousin his mind he doesn't want to seem like someone who would "fake" certain records or give himself a boost from a position of power. His ego is super important to him so by acknowledging that he's a director of an organization that has given him awards, it (rightfully) seems like he's just giving himself arbitrary congratulations. This is furthered by how he goes off on a tangent about how he isn't a very "sentimental person" and he "donates all his plaques" because he wants people to never see his ego. He wants to be a living legend that other people praise but since he has zero talent and no fans, he cheats his way up and them bullies people into telling him he's cool lmao.
The issue is, almost nobody is ever charged with perjury, even when it's an open and shut case. During the Amber Herd vs Johnny Depp case she was caught for multiple lies be it big or small. Yet she never had anything come of it. It happens with multiple cases, it's just not a charge they bother to hand out in general and is there to merely discourage people from lying, just like most laws and things it's just there to try to keep honest people honest. Compulsive liars like Billy aren't afraid of it due to the fact it's almost never followed up.
Karl Jobst vs Silly Bitchell is one of the most one-sided beatdowns of all time and I love that it keeps on giving even into 2024. Thanks, Karl! You're doing good work!
Yeah it makes fun content, but it pisses me off so much. This shits been going on for over a year at least, probably more. Just HOW THE FUCK is the legal system this fuckin slow. I get due process at all, but this is beyond fucking ridiculous.
Yes, and it's worth re-iterating that if this wasn't a popular streamer with access to funds and support, Billy, lies and all, would have simply ran them over with lawyers or run them out of funds. Like he's done his whole life. This is so depressing. This society is so corrupt. No matter how much we think it's a fair democracy. It's so broken. Let me say it again - Billy has spent his life running people over with litigation. That's why this absurd beatdown seems so one-sided. He never had a case. He never has a case. But this has always worked for him. How many of you have access to hundreds of thousands of dollars and the free time to deal with this kind of thing?@@damiencouturee6240
I love that Karl acknowledges this fact by including the wrestling game footage in this video, clearly intended to be Karl handily beating Billy into the ground.
I work at a school with kids between the ages of 8-11, and Billy exhibits a lot of signs of habitual lying. Just the fact that he likes to present additional information to a question he has barely answered to justify his lie reminds me so much of when we have to confront a kid for doing something they shouldn't. It's an immediate lie followed by unprompted, unnecessary information that usually has nothing to do with the event. And his smugness when he lies is just intolerable. When his lawyer tells him to just answer the question, it sounds like he's told Billy to keep things succinct several times, but you can't keep Billy from telling you a yarn.
To be totally fair I know people who don't lie who speak like that too - it's usually a sign of some manner of childhood trouble where not being detailed enough got you in trouble or caused something bad to happen, and so you feel the need to be overly detailed at all times. But odds are he's just lying, let's be real.
@@driumissimoi think its a difference between adding context and adding detail. if billy had said "i have not been on their website, i dont really use social media much." that would be adding context which is typically what someone who is being accused of lying but is actually being truthful would do. instead, he says "i have not been on their website, and i havent been on their facebook either" which would be adding (irrelevant) detail and answering a question that wasn't asked. he is trying to cover all his bases because he knows he is guilty. thats kind of how i see it at least, i could totally be pulling this out of my ass but i feel its somewhat true
Billy really is the Greatest Video Game Player of the Century. He's such a legend. I can't wait for him to achieve the legendary 'highest number of perjury charges' high score.
Bro that video game footage of Karl dominating Billy in the ring is hilarious. If Karl were to take this footage and claim that he had done so in real life and that the footage was proof, it would still be more plausible and easier to believe than any of the claims Billy has ever made about himself.
More plausible and somehow less egregious of a lie lmfao. Speaking of which, if anyone's interested in buying some property hmu. By Billy's standards of proof, I own millions of acres worldwide. *produces piece of cardboard with the word deed written over and over in crayon*
A possible motivation for lying about never having been a director could be because they were asking about that plaque he's supposed to have received. If he donated it to an org he's not in any way part of, how is he supposed to know where it is today? I think often the reason for one lie is to cover for another lie.
But if he was a part of it in 2011 and not in recent years (clearly not the last 9) I don't know how that would have helped. He could have just admitted to being on the board a long time ago...
I was about to say the same thing, but then noticed that you'd already said it here perfectly. Malignant narcissists like Billy pretty much make an art form out of using one lie to prop up another.
@@CainXVII This proves that he has been in the past at least, but doesn't prove or disprove that he's still actively one. At least not in and of itself, since the other evidence that is less reliable indicates he still is a director there. I think his lie could have worked better if he admitted that he had been one in the past, but claimed it was only briefly or something. Instead he doubled down on trying to say he had no official ties, opening him up to being proven wrong a lot easier.
Of course if Billy agreed he was a director, the next thing would be "then surely you have access to those plaques". He _has_ to lie about being a director because otherwise his plaque lies are uncovered and he loses the title of video game player of the century.
Excellent point. The fucked up part is he must know that too. Tbh he’d be best served by just laying everything out on the table and confessing, begging for mercy and forgiveness, and try to build his life back up from there. Unfortunately there are plenty of current other examples of people doing almost exactly the same thing and I guess they all would rather take that 0.0000001% chance they’ll get away with their lies than actually doing the right thing. Assholes. “How many assholes have we got on this ship anyway??”
nah he'd rather lie about it to make it seem more like that he wasn't awarding himself. now tommy tallarico on the other hand totally would brag about being founder of an organization awarding himself.
Seriously - without Billy ever referring to himself as one or acknowledging being one, this entire situation is nothing. He clearly wouldn't have reviewed their tax forms, in 2010, let alone remembered what they say 12-13 years later. I'm not with Billy on anything except this Director thing, it's nothing at all. This video was sadly a waste of time
@@RSterkenburgHe wouldn't have reviewed they tax forms 10 years or remembered what they said? That's relevant how? Maybe he should sue the other guys for making him a director when he didn't know.
Yep and with Karl's huge find for evidence on Billy Mitchell to absolutely prove he's as much of a lying, bullying con man as he is. Man I can't wait for that court date in January since the Twin Galaxies lawyers who are fighting against Billy right just got the evidence that Karl found and will lead to Billy being off the game board for good, no more BS from that slimy clown.
in case you forgot, karl is still being sued by billy mitchell. it's in his best interest to find as much against billy and help his own lawyers to get out on top, helping anyone else who is in court against billy just comes with it.
You know what's insane about this entire case? If Billy wasn't so litigation happy, he could have been spouting this slop until the day he died and no one would know any of this. Most likely at least
If you notice, that’s how it goes with most cheaters that gets exposed. They start out small and nobody notice but they keep going until whatever they end up doing while cheating is so big that someone ends up checking it and they get fucked.
@@you0tuber6it's the same with crimes, too. Rob one shop/bank and you can probably get away with it. Try to do it frequently and you're way more likely to get caught. People (both cheaters and criminals) get complacent and sloppier with their work, and eventually slip up in some way.
You're wrong. People in the arcade world knows and that's what matters. That the arcade world hasn't had much interest to you, doesn't mean it doesn't matter.
Love how he says "you're wrong" in a confident voice to the proscecutor while at the same time turning his head and avoiding eye contact, he really has his head so far up his own ass he actually thinks he's really good at lying even though he isn't. It just comes out looking like he's on drugs.
Perhaps the saddest part of this all is that Billy had a huge opportunity to step aside and be the hero of a different era. Rather than fake anything, Billy had ages where her could have said, "it was a different time, and you kids have your own standards and records." He could have been immortalized in legend, yet he couldn't help but tie his entire identity to that one event and lie over and over again to cling onto it.
Yea this is exactly what I don't understand about billy he could have immortalised himself if he accepted times change, tools and ways to work out how to get a WR change, and gaming as a whole changes, you can't be on top forever so why fight it? You'd be remembered better if you just accepted you were good at a time where all these tools were unavailable but are getting on in age... now he'll be remembered merely as a pathetic con-artist willing to commit perjury just to cling on to a silly set of gaming scores.. he's gone beyond the looking glass now *facepalm*.
@@TerribleFire that's a common misconception, what he does for a living and how he bankrolled TG was/is the family restaurant and hot sauces businesses he inherited. that's why walter was so dependent on him. sure he claims the conventions pay him 100k a year but you know billy, he is a bit of a mitchell. the really big fuckup billy and day did was to not use king of kong as a platform to promote fair play and to show how interesting esports can be as a competition - instead they just showed that don't bother to do esports under TG's umbrella because rules are different for different people. he should've just tried to practice to beat him in a head to head or something like that instead of starting to use cheater tapes, then if he lost no big deal. but billy just wanted to have forever scores. that's the whole point of finagling the perfect pacman rules to what they are, so he could be the first and you can only be the first once. then the first DK score was such that billy really thought nobody could beat it, since he didn't understand score optimization in the game at the time. basically he wanted to have his own dragster scores, he was never interested in actual competition.
I get so much joy from the fact that every single one of these billy Mitchell videos may end up played in front of an entire court and jury. The idea of them sitting through the sponsors and listening to karl call billy "silly bitchell" is just amazing
I never thought about that, but you are right. That will be amazing when they watch the pro wrasslin bit. And Karl smirks while Billy has to endure that.
So to comment on the "why is his lawyer still defending him?" I want to talk a bit about a video I saw many years ago where a psychotic kid murdered his girlfriend's family (I think he was like 16, maybe 18 at most), he showed up to court wearing a shirt that said "KILLER" and seemed to have zero remorse. His lawyer was interviewed afterward about basically the same question, and his answer was really poignant. He said something along the lines of "Honestly, these are the types of cases that most need lawyers. I don't condone what my client did, I don't like my client, but my duty is to do right by the law and make sure it is handled correctly. Due process applies to *everyone*." I see similar parallels here. Billy may lie with every other breath, but he is still entitled to legal representation like anyone else. Your client is paying you; you may not like them at all, you may not really even be trying to get them out of a charge, just making sure they aren't unfairly punished for the crimes they did commit. They are essentially just making sure the punishment fits the crime and due process is carried out correctly.
Yeah, it's important that every case, even seeming open-and-shut guilty cases, is properly tried. It's essential that we hold courts and prosecutors to a high standard so they do their jobs as thoroughly as possible, because if we start slacking on "obvious" cases, how long before we start slacking on all cases? This case probably isn't one of them, but there have also been a lot of cases where it seemed open and shut... until later, sometimes years later, a new piece of evidence arises that changes everything. (DNA evidence is a big one! A lotta people went to prison for murder or rape until DNA evidence proved it was someone else.) So it's essential to a free and fair society that every case is prosecuted and defended as fairly as possible.
The lawyer defending that kid was almost certainly a public defender assigned to him by the state as part of a criminal case. The public defender cannot turn away clients, and his job as a government employee is to defend those who cannot provide their own defense. No such right is provided by anyone in civil court. Billy definitely should hire a good attorney for his litigation defense, but only a dipshit attorney would agree to take the case. The odd thing about this relationship is it's not clear how Billy has the money to pay his attorney's fees. Billy certainly preys upon others' inability to endlessly pay attorney fees by dragging out his frivolous lawsuits. Karl has racked up hundreds of thousands of dollars of fees with his own defense, but he never had a "right" to this defense attorney.
The simplest answer would be ; "It's a job" For the lawyers it's not about the person, it's about the case and the legal challenge itself. Most surgeons don't like cutting people up, it's the thrill of solving the medical puzzle, it's not even about the person on the table.
14:15 let's not villainize his lawyer. Everyone (even Billy Mitchell) deserves legal representation. It's not the job of a lawyer to represent only the innocent clients, but to represent all clients they've taken on to the best of their ability. Even a guilty person can argue a mistrial because they lacked representation. So I'm willing to give the lawyer the benefit of the doubt and believe that he is doing what needs to be done so that no one else has to suffer.
Certainly everyone has the right to proper defense in a criminal trial which is why public defenders are provided by the state and federal governments, but no such right exists in civil court. You don't get a mistrial due to poor representation in defense against a lawsuit. In fact, Billy preys on people not being able to afford defense attorney fees by dragging out his frivolous lawsuits. Nothing is compelling this dipshit lawyer to take Billy's case. The odd thing about the relationship is it's not clear how Billy is able to pay for his attorney's fees, or if the guy is even charging him at all.
I honestly think he can’t help it; he may be a compulsive liar and doesn’t even really intend to lie, and just does automatically with no thought behind it.
One of the final segments of the recent video released by Veritas is a montage of his lawyer trying to corral Billy's mouth during the deposition... it's hilarious.
@mattmanyam I can just imagine a recess, and Billy's lawyer saying, "Seriously, man, will you just shut up?! You're making my job harder because you are seemingly incapable of keeping fucking quiet!"
having been scammed several times, it's incumbent upon me to watch and learn about all types of scammers and cheats, thanks for keeping up the hard work Karl
Love how he put his tail right between his legs after the "listen knock it off" oozing with dad energy while he's busy perjuring himself BM has to be the most exhausting client
For someone that's spent a lifetime lying, he's terrible at it! Listening to him answer questions it's so obvious he's lying, his lawyer must be facepalming constantly 😀
@@Dragirek "And his lawyer keep telling him to stfu everytime he give more info than just yes and no" - And like all good narcissists, BIlly believes he knows better than his own lawyer, so he immediately forgets what his lawyer tells him (or simply disregards it).
@@doom4067not really, his job is to make sure Billy doesn't say something that can fuck them over later so he is doing his best to make sure he just says yes or no. Speculation at this point can only hurt his case.
"Billy won" No, he and TG settled, and a settlement can go any which way the parties decide to settle. Unless you know the terms of the settlement, you cant even begin to analyze who "won." For all we know Billy has to pay TGs legal bills and his scores will never be reinstated. Based on the evidence Karl has highlighted, it was in Billy's best interest this never went to open court.
@@_Galaxymuffin_Trump sued THOUSANDS of people even before he became president. He's one of, if not the most, litigious people in the history of mankind.
If Billy had seen his face on a website, using his image to further their goals, and Billy wasn't getting paid for it, he would have sued them for $100M by now.
What i think is insane is how if he‘d just been honest from the start, he'd probably still been a well known person in the retro gaming sphere. Just because of what a eccentric personality he is. If he moderated a show or something like that it would’ve worked. But he rather lied…
I agree. If he had come clean day one. And just admitted it. But he double down, and tripled down... and started suing... it's like he read Lance Armstrong's book and used it as a road map...
I love that Billy's lawyer is like, "Dude stop expanding and stop trying to explain your lies. Just say 'yes' or 'no' and shut the fuck up. But Billy's ego is so fucking huge, he can't help but talk.
and still nothing will be done so whats there to love about it karl will leave this behind too like most of his accusations and nothing will be done once hype dies down he wont care
Billy: "I've never been on that website, and I've never been on that Facebook." I bet his lawyer tried to kick him when he unnecessarily added that information, because in a month or so, it's going to come out that Karl discovered that Billy is the administrator for, and runs the daily scheduling of, the Facebook page for the International Video Game Hall of Fame.
Was that Billy's own lawyer objecting to his responses so as to control his answers? I kept hearing someone object with regards to speculation, and then in the same sentence, with the same voice, instructing Billy to answer "only if you know."
@@cmshapThat is Billy's lawyer. It's normal in a deposition for your own lawyer to object for the record, but still allow you to answer the question. When the judge goes through the deposition later, you want the answers on record in case the judge doesn't sustain the objections. If the judge does sustain them, they'll remove the answers from the record. It takes a pretty egregious question for your attorney to instruct you not to answer. Usually because it attempts to pierce the veil of attorney-client privilege.
Billy has transcended videogames and is now a meta gamer. His lying under oath is just a vessel by which he's grinding XP into his 'Fraudulence' skill tree. The content of the lie serves no purpose, 'getting away with it' has become a goal unto itself. You'd be able to enter Billy's head you'd hear the boss music playing during this testimony.
Hi Karl, if I can help answer any tax related questions, I’d love to get in contact and help out. I’m a Certified Public Accountant in the US and am familiar with both for profit and non-profit tax filings. I thoroughly appreciate and support the light you shed on scummy people and it would be an absolute pleasure helping expose them.
Anybody else catch him going "And I'm DEFINITELY not on their Facebook," when absolutely nobody was talking about Facebook. Why is he volunteering info nobody asked for?!
Just a note to everyone out there. A lawyer will never ask a question they don't already know the answer to and they will for damn sure never ask a question they don't already know the answer to in a deposition setting.
As a general rule, agree. Unless they're desperate and fishing for something as a last resort. A smart liar would give themself wiggle room such as "not that I recall" - and never back themselves into a corner by answering "no".
That's not really pertinent. The lawyers had a desired range of answers in mind when they ask a question like that. Depending on what the answers you continue or pivot and drill down on that answer. Every question is asked intentionally regardless of what people think the reasoning of that question is.
Just playing Devils advocate here... but the form @ 18:24 itself wouldn't have been submitted by Billy, and chances are he never even saw it. What's to stop him re-using his argument from 7:00? It doesn't necessarily prove he was a director, merely that the IVGHOF claimed he was a director on both their website and their filings. Yes, whoever filled in the form (presumably Barry Flint) would have had to sign a big scary box with the usual perjury clause, so it would be weird if they would risk penalties over false filings, but lets not forget we're assuming actual competence here as the basis of the argument, and that's not something I associate with either Billy, or any of his associates. Maybe Barry thought Billy was on-board as a director but Billy didn't see it that way? I agree that assuming fraud on Billy's part is absolutely a safe bet, I'd hate to see you tripped up in your legal wrangling's with him on a potentially moot point in the grand scheme of things.
Sure he could do that and then he would be accusing the IVHOF of tax fraud in a sworn deposition, calling them BS artists using his name for publicity is not really a big deal but accusing them of an actual crime is a different matter entirely. Also it blows away any credibility his it was just PR hype argument has. Why would the IVHOF name him as a director on a tax form? Who were they trying to impress at the IRS by naming him and lying on a tax form? It makes absolutely zero sense to name him as a director on that form unless he was a director.
So website shows he is a director, people who worked there all say he was a director, now filing of non profit shows he was a director. But that still isnt good enough since Billy can just say, hey I didnt know or wasnt aware? Interesting. Now if he said, as far as I am aware, I was never a director I think would of helped his case then, otherwise now he is pulling this company into the legal arena claiming they fraudulently listed him as a director. Good luck...
Man i bet he didnt see one of the youtubers he tried to strongarm into silence becoming one of the most crucial factors in his downfall. Came for the speedruns, stayed for the well researched and objective reporting. Love you karl ❤.
Billy's lawyer is trying SOOOO hard to get him not to talk or run his mouth and get himself into trouble, but Billy just CAN'T help himself. That lawyer is practically begging him not to say anything, and then is probably face palming when he goes on yet another rant.
I swear Billy is regretting so HARD to ever mess with Karl. Every other TH-camr got bullied away but not Karl. Karl is out here on his Personal Vendeta and i LOVE it. Keep kicking Billys butt Karl. Your doing Gods work.
Its just a trait of compulsive liars. I had a friend who was like this, used to lie about bizarre things that didnt even need lying about, used to just go along with the lies in the end
Nah, that's the first two rules of a Deposition. 1. Only answer the questions, noting else. 2. Don't answer the ones where you admit you're guilty. If any lawyer doesn't enforce those two rules onto the client, they're doing their client and their own reputation a huge disservice.
I love how the longer this goes on, the less professionalism and courtesy Karl is willing to show to anyone involved in this mess. You can tell by just how blunt he's starting to be when describing anything.
I'm sure he consults with his lawyers on what he is and isn't allowed to say about it, but I suspect it being increasingly blunt/direct is based on how more and more obvious it becomes that almost the entire deposition was just lie after lie, and that there's nearly zero chance Billy wins the lawsuit.
@@jean-philipperoussy6610 bro he's being sued for like a million dollars by this jackass, of course he has to make videos to pay for his defense, and I doubt you'd be showing a great deal courtesy if you were in a similar position
cofezilla does stuff karl just makes videos about people until the views die down and then stops without solving any of the issues @@mayoral_fabrication
Dude Karl is on a war path with Billy Mitchell. This is great. I saw Billy once out in wild at an airport once randomly. Didn’t know who he was but he stood out so much that I’ll never forget him. Thought he was a musician at first.
The video of twin galaxy's lawyer interviewing Billy is honestly extremely interesting. This video has been out for months now and it's still being analyzed due to how many lies and contradictions it has. I honestly wonder if psychology and law professors will use this video in classes to teach people how pathological lairs behave
I’ve watched Billy Mitchell’s six-hour deposition from his lawsuit against Twin Galaxies, all the way through, twice. I’ve spent an unreasonably vast amount of time researching this stuff while I should be writing a dissertation about something else. Billy has spent his career telling bizarre and inconsistent lies with very little restraint. By contrast, in his lawsuit, he has endeavored to restrain his lying to be more-or-less consistent across his various legal documents and statements. This boxes him into saying a lot of bizarre things, in a painstaking effort to avoid contradicting his previous official statements. So now he’s basically required to stick to some of his own wild half-baked cover stories for previous lies. This explains *some* of his wild lies, such as the one about Carlos “not working at his behest” (see below). However, oddly enough, I do not think any of Billy’s previous statements required him to pretend not to be a Hall of Fame director-so this particular lie is still baffling. Here are some of the weirdest things Billy appears to say in his deposition: 1. Billy never helped Carlos Pineiro et al in testing any equipment, and Carlos et al didn’t do anything “for” Billy or on Billy’s “behalf” or at his “behest.” Billy just accepted their offers to test equipment (while knowing & approving of the purpose of it), and he played Donkey Kong while they were testing it (but he was going to play DK anyway, and anyone else could have played DK instead), and he provided equipment such as a television (but this was not to help Carlos et al-it was just to provide the TV to Rob’s shop, whilst knowing & approving of the fact that Rob’s shop would thereby use the TV for the testing by Carlos et al). 2. Billy has never seen “King of Kong” or ANY movie that he has EVER been featured in. 3. Billy has never been a director of the International Video Game Hall of Fame. 4. Billy has never looked at the IVGHOF website in his life. He had no idea, and no way of knowing, that its website had listed him as a “director” for years. 5. Billy has never looked at the Twin Galaxies website a single time in his entire life. 6. Billy has never been a leader or co-owner of TG in any way whatsoever. 7. Billy knows very little, and can produce very little documentation, about his own financials. (This is bizarre, since he is a business owner-and he needs to provide documentation to prove “damages” in the defamation suit.) 8. Billy has never actually watched ANY versions of the putative 1.047M or 1.050M Donkey Kong tapes which Carlos et al spent weeks analyzing. (I think THIS one shocked me the most! The idea that Billy could have gone all these years, amidst all this controversy, without ever once watching the videos themselves, is *mind-boggling*. There is no way this is true, and it is one of the weirdest lies I’ve ever heard him tell.) Note: This isn't a full list of lies in the deposition. There is other stuff like Billy's crazy lies about the joystick, and Music City Multi Con, which have been covered at length elsewhere by Karl (and by the recent long video by Veritas). And also Billy says other weird things in the deposition attacking Dwayne Richard and Carlos Pineiro, which I'm quite sure are also false, but which I haven't looked into quite as much.
@@Megaritz Honestly, I'm starting to think that his lawyer told him "Deny Everything" before going into the deposition and it ended up biting majorly in his ass.
@@rphntw1n I don't know if there's a forum. There is still an ongoing Billy Mitchell "post-verdict dispute" thread on the Twin Galaxies forum, but it has barely been updated in the last year. However, by far the most detailed website about Billy Mitchell is called "Perfect Pacman" by Ersatz_Cats. You can find an immense amount of Billy Mitchell lore there, including both the famous Donkey Kong saga and the slightly lesser-known "Perfect Pacman" saga. The site is already a pretty solid compendium of information across its many articles for the last few years. Various of its articles also have links to interviews with various former associates of Twin Galaxies and/or ex-members of Team Billy, etc. Also, a TH-camr called Veritas recently made a 4-hour video on Billy and the evidence against him. He doesn't cover the Pacman stuff (except the interlude on Music City) or the lawsuit much, but he does a great explanation on the evidence that Billy cheated at Donkey Kong, and rebuttals to basically all Billy's main defenses. I think he intuitively clarifies the evidence that Billy used MAME and why it matters. Be sure to watch all the videos by Karl Jobst as well, if you haven't already. Karl himself hasn't made a playlist, but someone else has. You can find it by searching "Karl Jobst Billy Mitchell," and the playlist (all 21 videos, including a few about Todd Rogers also) should appear within the first few results.
I think he lies because he can't handle feeling like anyone has any upper hand over him at any point, ever, which has progressed to feeling like if he's not manipulating everyone and totally in control then he's somehow worthless. All it took was for the lawyer to ask about something Billy thought he could lie about in order to feel like he had manipulated the situation, and he took the opportunity to do just that. Billy just has to be the smartest person in every room at all times and it constantly bites him in the ass.
My theory is that, if it was confirmed he was a director, he would be asked if he couldn't just retrieve the "awards" using his position, so by denying it he would excuse "not being able to get them back". That's the only way all of this makes a little bit of sense.
Why reveal this publicly before the Twin Galaxies lawyer has a chance to take Billy by surprise in court? This is just giving him and his lawyers time to prepare.
I believe both sides have to have access to the evidence their opposition plans to present during court regardless. Given this ongoing saga, I'm pretty sure Karl cleared at least the concept for this video with Twin Galaxies' legal team before uploading.
Narcissists are fascinating creatures when their facade breaks down, because unlike normal people they will NEVER give up on it or acknowledge reality, so long as it does not comport with their facade. Most likely, even after failing in court repeatedly and being exposed publicly, to his own face, he will simply move on and continue the facade as if none of this ever happened and he's been right all along. For a narcissist, admitting a personal failing is worse than death. It truly may never happen.
@@ncc1701deee Just shut up you know hes not paying you rent right. what the hell does this have to do with trump. Nothing! Grow past your programing your here in comments for video games acting like a tool.
Still broke AF, still supporting how I can at the moment! More loot coming your way when times are better for me. Thank you for all your GREAT videos. Love em!
I'm sure the only reason he felt confident lying about not being a director is because he thought all the hard evidence was covered up. As he said, it doesn't matter if the website says he's a director, because any and all tax filings that undeniably prove he's a director are long gone... or so he thought.
I imagine he lied about being a director because he had already said he donated the plaques and he wasn't sure where the lawyer was going next and thought if he denied any official link to the organisation he could also deny any possible knowledge of what happened to the plaques after their donation.
Agreed, he didn't like where the lawyer was taking the questions because he wanted the missing plaques to remain in the dark, so he decided to prevent those lines of questions. However, it seems Billy dug himself yet another hole he can't climb out of.
Your lawyer will represent you as long as you pay them. They can tell you not to lie, but they can't call you out for it in the middle of a deposition. If lawyers didn't represent liars, the legal system would collapse.
Also it's difficult for lawyers to leave a lawsuit that's already in progress. Not impossible, but they need a really good reason. Otherwise it wouldn't be fair to whoever they suddenly stopped representing.
It seems like at this point Billy sees every question he's ever being asked as a trick to catch him so he just keeps saying the opposite of whatever he thinks the one who asked wants to hear lmao
I think it's impulsive for him. Like, he absolutely must be perceived as the greatest gamer of all time or he will literally die. Honestly I kinda hope he's able to get past it for his own sake.
I really, really think Billy is self aware, but also has the most massive ego on the planet and doesn't realize HE is the joke, and we are laughing AT him. I swear, he's Donald Trump of the video game world. Just an absolute buffoon, habitual liar and lolcow
All Billy had to do was just quietly admit he had cheated and get out of the public eye. All Billy had to do was ignore Karl's videos. But, no, his narcissism couldn't allow that. And he also really had to stoke some fires under Karl. Bullying others may have gotten him far in life, but times have changed.
"Bullying others may have gotten him far in life, but times have changed"- Sadly, bullying is a time-honored tradition for the wealthy, powerful, and/or connected, and it is nearly always successful. Times have not changed as much as you would seem to indicate. If Karl didn't have others financially helping him with his defense, then Billy's bullying would have been immediately successful.
There's compulsive lying-which I'm not going to defend, just personally I find it more tragic than offensive-and then there's lashing out and trying to ruin the lives of people who expose you. Some pathological liars retain a sense of shame, and run away when they're exposed. Billy's hostility isn't a pathology-he's just a completely terrible person. Although if it makes you feel any better (for me this is the tragic part) Billy probably hasn't had an authentic emotional connection with another human being since 1982. That's my whole entire life, plus two years. I'm not young! I'm 40! I'd pity him if it weren't for, you know, the aforementioned "actively hurting people" thing.
14:15 I am sorry but you dont question why a lawyer choose to represent a certain client. It is their professional duty to provide service to those who seek them regardless of who they are. Just because a murderer is a bad person doesnt mean he is not allow to have a lawyer in court.
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Billy just doesnt make sense we just dont know anymore
So, is there a video on Moony in the works? He seems to have doubled down on his patreon.
I really, really think Billy is self aware, but also has the most massive ego on the planet and doesn't realize HE is the joke, and we are laughing AT him. I swear, he's Donald Trump of the video game world. Just an absolute buffoon, habitual liar and lolcow
Happy new year Karl
You make it a point that it's strange that anyone would defend Billy Mitchell but, defense attorneys usually DON'T care who they're defending as long as they're paid. Do you think Amber Heard's lawyers truly believed she was innocent and Johnny Depp was abusive? Especially with all the evidence stacked up against her case? I just think that it's not fair to treat the lawyer the same as you treat Billy Mitchell. Yes, he's probably a liar, but that's basically what lawyers are half of the time.
Lawyer: "Your name is Billy Mitchell, correct?"
Billy: "No, you're wrong. I don't recall ever being called that."
This comment is to good 😂
Lawyer: "But it's right here on the ID you gave me."
Billy: "No, you're wrong. I have never seen that document."
Lawyer: “Did you hold a record on Donkey Kong?”
Billy: “No. Never on Donkey Kong. I’ve never even played a video game before.”
Darrell Brooks tried this one
"no, i am bitchel"
If Mitchell insists on lying so much while wearing an American flag tie, he should run for Congress.
Please don't give Silly Bitchell ideas.
Indeed 😅.
Thank you! That gave me a huge laugh!
This!
He could've been a prime candidate for Trump's cabinet lmao
The completionist side quest actually made Karl level up in the tax filings research skill enough to come back to the boss fight here.
In some sense Jared helped someone. Thanks Jared.
lol, Eldren Ring teaches better life skills than high school
@@d_ruggs you just need to gamify life, suddenly everything is a sidequest and level ups in skilltrees.
Lol tax filing search skill unlocked
@@d_ruggsMy life is like a video game, trying hard to beat the stage
All while I am still collecting coins
Trying hard to save the girl, obstacles, I'm jumping hurdles
I'm growing up to be a big boy
I battle with the evil ways, I travel far and try and save
Sorry, but your princess isn't here
I take a rest, I push the pause, level up and move along
In hopes that the next stage I will clear; I fucking passed, asshole
Karl: *talks about the completionist for a few videos*
Billy Mitchell: *wipes sweat of his brow and starts tiptoeing away*
Karl: WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING?!
SF5 Seth: DID YOU THINK IT WAS OVER?!
GET OVER HERE!!
Liquid Snake: Not yet, Mitchell! IT'S NOT OVER YET!
Karl: OH I AIN'T DONE WITH YOU YET, BILLY.
I am starting to feel like Billy and Karl are conspiring, Billy acts like an idiot and Karl makes a video on it and then they split the profits I mean we are only four days in and already this video has grossed a low estimate of $23000.
People seem to love this for some reason could you imagine if it turned out to be manufactured theatre for profit?
I am not saying I have insider information or anything and I am not trying to make any accusations it's just an idea.
My favorite part is Billy attempting to sound professional and answer every question to the fullest, and his lawyer is literally yelling at him to only answer the question asked, because even the lawyer knows he is as dumb as a bag of rocks.
His lawyer is like: "Dude, just take the L and STFU."
As someone who studied law, that's just completely standard lawyer advice. NEVER give more in an answer than the person is asking for. You can end up giving away extra ammo to your opponent very easily, or get caught in lies, or your "embellishments" can be further questioned. There's a good reason lawyers tell you to just say yes or no most of the time, and also why during cross examination you want to try and pose more open questions that the witness can't just answer yes or no to, but that also aren't calling for speculation (in which case as you heard in the clip they may not have to answer if judge accepts) or aren't leading the witness (so you can't say "so as a director of the board for IVGHOF you'd have knowledge of what's going on there?"... because whilst this SEEMS like a yes or no question, it's actually leading the witness to accept that they're a director, and whichever answer they give, if they give one, implies that they accept being a director... it's sneaky and you're not allowed to hide such assignations in the facade of asking a question... A good lawyer will object and the judge should smack you down for such a blatant attempt)
Please don't insult the bag of rocks by comparing it to Billy.
True, but it's also just common sense when you're in a deposition. Don't give your opponent more than what they're asking for
He is used to defending himself in the court of public opinion, where providing additional context can make his story sound more plausible.
This is bizarre. This is perhaps the first time that Billy has lied to make himself sound *less* impressive than he actually is.
Some shady business was going on inside that "non-profit". He thought they knew about it.
maybe cause he didn't want to make it look like he runs the place and so can tell people to lie for him.
Dunno how much sense that makes tho. Prbly very little.
Maybe he wanted to dissociate himself with them as he was planning to pretend he had donated his awards that would magically be found @@Broockle
Negative impressive?
Reminds me of the time the Fox News Lawyer told the judge no reasonable viewer would take Tucker Carlsons claims as fact
Its so funny that Billy tried to shut up a critic with a lawsuit threat and inadvertently created an investigator with all the motive in the world to watch anything and everything pertaining to billys main lawsuit and make it as public as possible. Youre the legend, karl.
It's really satisfying, since Apollo was the first one to try to do this, and he had to settle with Billy. It feels like justice will finally come.
@@CadBrad 1 thing to know here. The very best case scenario here is that Billy just continues to lie. He is NOT going to confess and cry. He will just say the court is wrong, and he is right and he will do ZERO different in his life. The 1 and only good that will come from this is more people knowing about is lying. That's it. Sorry.
@@eriklarson9137billy will literally lose millions of dollars if he loses his case against twin galaxies. I don't think you know how big this case is. Twin Galaxies are suing billy mitchell for at least 3 million dollars. That means if billy loses he will LITERALLY be instantly homeless because we all know he doesn't have 3 million dollars, he will have to sell a lot of his belongings to even come close to that amount.
Well for one his new documentary will never come out I bet as Billy wants the happy ending of him getting his records back, the other thing is Billy's reputation may be more damaged than it is already because Walter Day has now switched sides.....if he tells the whole truth then Billy's lies mean nothing@@eriklarson9137
The man learned a painful lesson in The Streisand Effect
I love how he claims "he's not sentimental" and yet he's having a *massive* tantrum about old scores being declared as false
100% guaranteed, he was just trying to look cool. (In his mind.)
seriously. fucking how OLD is this dude now anyway? and hes living off of something he did ...or sounds like he FAKED he did...when he was like what....twelve? seems sad to me >.>
Because it's not sentiment, it's narcissism.
@@joshuawargo6446 I think Karl said he was 58 in a previous video. With how long this stuff has been going on he could be 59 by now.
I don't know what's funnier about this video. Billy's lawyer desperately trying to get him to keep his narcissistic mouth shut to prevent him from digging a deeper hole for himself every 5 seconds, the intermittent clips of Karl slamming Billy in the wrestling ring as video game characters, or simply... "Billy, you silly bitch". Another utterly golden video humiliating this lying buffoon, Karl. You're an absolute legend!
The "Billy, you silly Bitch" I chuckled, it was very well timed slap
Karl continues to call us absolute legends, when he has been the true absolute legend this whole time
I laughed so hard at "Billy you silly bitch", I dunno why that's so funny but god damn XD
I'm the one who provided the wrestling footage for this video. It was an honor to do so for an absolute legend. There are numerous videos like it on my channel, including another fight between Billy and Karl that sadly was not up to date with Billy's current physical appearance. Karl and I worked together on modifying it to look as he does in this. I hope you all found it to be funny and a nice juxtaposition given the content. Seeing this go live right as 2024 starts local time was an amazing sight for me as well.
So I take it that he currently has an overweight, paunchy appearance?
That clip was legendary
Can't wait for billy to try and sue Karl for "inciting violence" against him through showing that game where he gets beat up lol
This was my favorite part. Nice work!
Omg you should do this on the N64 No Mercy hack!
I know this is a serious topic, but I can't get over how funny it is to see Karl effectively go:
"Hey, Twin Galaxies. I got some more dirt on Billy. You want it?"
And Twin Galaxies be like, "Absolutely. Thanks a bunch, Karl. You're the goat."
Lol
The IRS is clearly lying. I mean, look at it! How could they do such a thing?
Sarcasm
To be fair, Billy gave him the motivation to do so
its not a serious topic this streamer is just topic dip he wont follow it same as many youtubers make a vid get money dont care what happens after
@@nozyy5684 Are you OK? Did you just have a stroke writing that?
Billy: I dunno, maybe--
Lawyer: Don't speculate.
Billy: ... *_does it again_*
Laywer: WHAT DID I JUST FUCKING SAY
I would like to thank Billy for his contributions to the gaming community. Collectively he has brought us together to point and laugh at him.
I'm laughing primarily at his ridiculous hair
@@APPEALtoFEARya that stuff is worse than a mullet 😅😅😅😅😅
I enjoy Billy Mitchel. He's not dangerous like Jack Thomas or Anita Sarkeesian. He's just fun. I might even like him if he didn't mock Apollo Legend.
@@MassiveKittenFire-vw1cw bro his literally a pathological liar how can you even begin to like this guy
Most of the people in these comments aren't from the gaming community though. They have just joined in, because people like to hate someone together. Many of them have no idea what it's even about and make dumb comments.
Billy is basically the textbook definition of a pathological liar: Just can't stop lying even when it's actively harmful to them, can't admit to things they lie about being lies, and sometimes even believe the lies their self and won't even acknowledge that they personally said something previously if it contradicts a current lie.
For someone like that, you'll never get them to admit guilt no matter how solid and undeniable the proof you have. Which means - even after these legal cases are done and dusted - he will continue to argue his side to the day he dies.
And what if Billy denies his death?
Karl will make a vid xD@@rikswift
I started following Karl from the goldeneye speed running videos. His research and detail was fantastic and literally made me interested in speed running. Now that we see these videos on billy and completionist, we see a neat translation of research, investigation and detail into these issues. Karl will always be a favourite channel of mine. It sucks that this billy Mitchell case is costing him so much money, but I will watch these billy Mitchell vids for eternity in support and if I had more spare cash I would donate to Karl for sure
Ouchie.
He's a pathological liar too dumb to even remember what is truth and what is not (and tbh for PL "real truth" does not exist)
My theory on the necessity of this specific lie: The reason is that if it's proven that he's a high-ranking member of the museum, then he could be asked for his plaque, for use as evidence in court. Someone in his position should have absolutely no difficulty in getting a hold of his plaque. He knows that there's something wrong with the plaque, so he needed to get rid of it in some way that makes it unobtainable for the court. That's why he needed to have donated it (the most honorable way of getting rid of it) to a museum. He just didn't expect to be questioned as much about the museum, so he panicked and decided to try to distance himself from the museum as much as possible.
Yeah, I think that's right
Even if that is true, it really goes to show just how low IQ billy really is. The court could very easily subpoena the plaque from the IVGHOF if it was considered relevant to the case. As soon as they do that and find out that the HOF doesn't have the plaque nor have they ever had it, they know billy is lying.
That is a very good theory
He already submitted the plaque after he "found" it again by magic and turned out to not have donated it.
All because the plaque didn't say "Gamer of the Century"?
Once a lawyer has taken on a client, for the duration of a case, they can't just drop him. They have to notify the court with a good reason. Valid reasons might include "he's actively refusing our advice", "he's hired another lawyer", things like that...but for due process reasons, "i found out my client is a scumbag" is not among them. Even scumbags deserve good and zealous legal representation.
Surely "it is has come to our attention that our client has been lying under oath" is a valid enough reason
@@PhilosophyofElivagar Nope, subjective and calls for speculations until decided by a jury.
Bullshit.
Billy's lawyer probably spends most of their in-person meetings just looking at him and saying:
"I hate you. I hate you so much. I hate God for giving children terminal illnesses while you still draw breath and I hate the soil you walk on."
I think Billy’s hairdo should be reason enough to dismiss him as a client
Hearing his lawyer having to tell him to shut up and only answer the questions asked, time and time again, is just hilarious.
He CANNOT help himself trying to paint pictures, tell tales and just add in bits here and there. Haha, it's ridiculous.
Veritas uploaded a (nearly) four hour video detailing the Billy Mitchell saga, and the final 15-25 minutes of Veritas' video is a montage from the disposition but it's just all the times Billy's attorney tells him to "just answer the question." I would recommend the entire video, but if you don't have 4 hours to waste, then I highly recommend watching the final ~30 minutes. It's painfully obvious that Billy can not help himself, and IMO, the montage really illustrates Billy is the epitome of a narcissist.
A narcissist and a pathological liar.
@@msskaggs3911thanks
Billy's just proof that an American flag tie and a feathered mullet can only get you so far in life
That's gotta be a wig right?
His hair makes him look like he’s wearing a hood at all times.
@@glasswhisperer My money's on an industrial sized vat of hair dye and hair spray, hopefully he stays away from naked flames.
😂😂
Hiding behind the shield of patriotism until you fuck up so bad the shield looks at you and says, aw hell naw
I love how at this point the OHF was basically just a miniboss that gave Karl enough EXP to level up and continue his battle against the main villain.
What level would Karl be now? 🤔
@@General..GrievousHis YT XP is 956K, not sure about the level, but we are reaching end-game levels it seems !
bro needed to grind before he could face the final boss
The OHF was doing some seriously messed up stuff and doing real tangible harm.
Billy's just an idiot.
Can we also appreciate the look alike wrestlers ? I noticed it almost all the way through 😅
The fact that the whole Completionist situation was just a sidequest to give Karl the skill needed to 100% Billy Mitchell like it's some kind of Metroidvania.
Are you going to finish that sentence ?
Karl Jobst is playing an IRL legal Metroidvania, what a perfect way to describe it 😂
@@EugeneOneguineperhaps they forgot 2/3 of an ellipsis
@@Yewtewba Those sentences, "the fact that xxx does xxx" are so weird. Yes, the fact that he did that is.... ? Is what ?
Lying on a sworn disposition is a felony. Billy is so used to lying because he's always gotten away with it, he doesn't realize lying in court can net him serious jail time.
Well he must stumble eventually
so what youre saying is billy should run for president
I really dont care for Billy Mitchell. But to lie under oath about such a miniscule thing.
What is this guy thinking? Its like me lying under oath that I had toast, when in reality I had a cinnamon roll. WHO LIES UNDER OATH FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
How insane do you have to be... Its not something that gives him ANYTHING.
@@livinliciousin his mind he doesn't want to seem like someone who would "fake" certain records or give himself a boost from a position of power. His ego is super important to him so by acknowledging that he's a director of an organization that has given him awards, it (rightfully) seems like he's just giving himself arbitrary congratulations. This is furthered by how he goes off on a tangent about how he isn't a very "sentimental person" and he "donates all his plaques" because he wants people to never see his ego. He wants to be a living legend that other people praise but since he has zero talent and no fans, he cheats his way up and them bullies people into telling him he's cool lmao.
The issue is, almost nobody is ever charged with perjury, even when it's an open and shut case. During the Amber Herd vs Johnny Depp case she was caught for multiple lies be it big or small. Yet she never had anything come of it. It happens with multiple cases, it's just not a charge they bother to hand out in general and is there to merely discourage people from lying, just like most laws and things it's just there to try to keep honest people honest. Compulsive liars like Billy aren't afraid of it due to the fact it's almost never followed up.
Karl Jobst vs Silly Bitchell is one of the most one-sided beatdowns of all time and I love that it keeps on giving even into 2024. Thanks, Karl! You're doing good work!
Yeah it makes fun content, but it pisses me off so much. This shits been going on for over a year at least, probably more. Just HOW THE FUCK is the legal system this fuckin slow. I get due process at all, but this is beyond fucking ridiculous.
Yes, and it's worth re-iterating that if this wasn't a popular streamer with access to funds and support, Billy, lies and all, would have simply ran them over with lawyers or run them out of funds. Like he's done his whole life.
This is so depressing. This society is so corrupt. No matter how much we think it's a fair democracy. It's so broken. Let me say it again - Billy has spent his life running people over with litigation. That's why this absurd beatdown seems so one-sided. He never had a case. He never has a case. But this has always worked for him.
How many of you have access to hundreds of thousands of dollars and the free time to deal with this kind of thing?@@damiencouturee6240
He's gotta keep all that hot sauce around to remind him of all the burns.
I love that Karl acknowledges this fact by including the wrestling game footage in this video, clearly intended to be Karl handily beating Billy into the ground.
@@joshuastucky Lol not just intended, look at the health bars it literally is Karl and billy.
Billy is so good at video games. He's set the Lawsuit win difficulty to MAX and is about to get the WR bad ending speedrun
And he started in second gear!
LMAO😂
Kind of reminds me of Fallout 4 Sex%
Absolutely arbitrary but indeed a legit speedrun *g*
Shooting the moon for lies achievement
If Karl is ever called in to testify, I can easily imagine-before he is even sworn in-him addressing the jury as “absolute legends.”
I work at a school with kids between the ages of 8-11, and Billy exhibits a lot of signs of habitual lying. Just the fact that he likes to present additional information to a question he has barely answered to justify his lie reminds me so much of when we have to confront a kid for doing something they shouldn't. It's an immediate lie followed by unprompted, unnecessary information that usually has nothing to do with the event. And his smugness when he lies is just intolerable. When his lawyer tells him to just answer the question, it sounds like he's told Billy to keep things succinct several times, but you can't keep Billy from telling you a yarn.
Yes! he just HAS to keep laying his lies, as if he thinks if he buries the lie under enough waffle then people will believe it more
like why did he even bring up facebook? lol
To be totally fair I know people who don't lie who speak like that too - it's usually a sign of some manner of childhood trouble where not being detailed enough got you in trouble or caused something bad to happen, and so you feel the need to be overly detailed at all times.
But odds are he's just lying, let's be real.
@@driumissimoi think its a difference between adding context and adding detail. if billy had said "i have not been on their website, i dont really use social media much." that would be adding context which is typically what someone who is being accused of lying but is actually being truthful would do. instead, he says "i have not been on their website, and i havent been on their facebook either" which would be adding (irrelevant) detail and answering a question that wasn't asked. he is trying to cover all his bases because he knows he is guilty. thats kind of how i see it at least, i could totally be pulling this out of my ass but i feel its somewhat true
Billy really is the Greatest Video Game Player of the Century. He's such a legend. I can't wait for him to achieve the legendary 'highest number of perjury charges' high score.
15 minute perjury speed run, 100% no glitches run
This should really be turned into a full blown documentary at this point. "The Billy Mitchell Files"
King of Con 2
Joker of Kong
omg that title be so good lol@@lyndisrobin
The Liary of Silly Bitchell
Exactly what I was thinking
Bro that video game footage of Karl dominating Billy in the ring is hilarious. If Karl were to take this footage and claim that he had done so in real life and that the footage was proof, it would still be more plausible and easier to believe than any of the claims Billy has ever made about himself.
Underrated comment 😂😂😢😅😂😂
More plausible and somehow less egregious of a lie lmfao.
Speaking of which, if anyone's interested in buying some property hmu. By Billy's standards of proof, I own millions of acres worldwide. *produces piece of cardboard with the word deed written over and over in crayon*
@@jordanl5444he's got documentation. Play ball!
A possible motivation for lying about never having been a director could be because they were asking about that plaque he's supposed to have received.
If he donated it to an org he's not in any way part of, how is he supposed to know where it is today?
I think often the reason for one lie is to cover for another lie.
But if he was a part of it in 2011 and not in recent years (clearly not the last 9) I don't know how that would have helped. He could have just admitted to being on the board a long time ago...
I agree. Also, it makes Billy look cooler and more generous if it's an unrelated organization that sees value in receiving these plaques.
I was about to say the same thing, but then noticed that you'd already said it here perfectly. Malignant narcissists like Billy pretty much make an art form out of using one lie to prop up another.
@@CainXVII This proves that he has been in the past at least, but doesn't prove or disprove that he's still actively one. At least not in and of itself, since the other evidence that is less reliable indicates he still is a director there. I think his lie could have worked better if he admitted that he had been one in the past, but claimed it was only briefly or something. Instead he doubled down on trying to say he had no official ties, opening him up to being proven wrong a lot easier.
It could also be as simple as he thinks it's a trap. Or, he's just dumb, and really didn't know.
Of course if Billy agreed he was a director, the next thing would be "then surely you have access to those plaques". He _has_ to lie about being a director because otherwise his plaque lies are uncovered and he loses the title of video game player of the century.
the video game player of the 20th century has become the lolcow of the 21st century
Excellent point. The fucked up part is he must know that too. Tbh he’d be best served by just laying everything out on the table and confessing, begging for mercy and forgiveness, and try to build his life back up from there. Unfortunately there are plenty of current other examples of people doing almost exactly the same thing and I guess they all would rather take that 0.0000001% chance they’ll get away with their lies than actually doing the right thing. Assholes.
“How many assholes have we got on this ship anyway??”
It does sound like they put him on a lose-lose situation. Say the truth about this only to expose a different lie... or just lie about this.
@@llSuperSnivyll Yup. He’s totally fucked.
@@llSuperSnivyll "they" didn't put him in a lose-lose situation, he put himself there and they called it out
I was actually waiting for the moment Carl would show us Billy introducing himself in numerous interviews as Director of the hall of fame.
nah he'd rather lie about it to make it seem more like that he wasn't awarding himself.
now tommy tallarico on the other hand totally would brag about being founder of an organization awarding himself.
Seriously - without Billy ever referring to himself as one or acknowledging being one, this entire situation is nothing. He clearly wouldn't have reviewed their tax forms, in 2010, let alone remembered what they say 12-13 years later. I'm not with Billy on anything except this Director thing, it's nothing at all. This video was sadly a waste of time
@@RSterkenburg What are you trying to say? These tax forms prove he was lying under oath, that's what this is about.
@@RSterkenburgHe wouldn't have reviewed they tax forms 10 years or remembered what they said? That's relevant how? Maybe he should sue the other guys for making him a director when he didn't know.
Hearing Billy's lawyer desperately try to keep him from running his mouth as much as possible is amazing.
Just hearing Karl flatly say "Billy, you silly bitch." breaks me. Love your work, Mr. Jobst, can't wait for more slam dunks on Billy.
I'm surprised this was the first comment I saw on this, i burst out laughing for like 1-2 mins straight
It's the sudden change in tone, from forensically going through legal/tax documents, and then just calling him a silly bitch
the best one from another video was Silly Bitchell
Karl Jobst is now so good at being a reporter that he is helping actual lawyers to win lawsuits and the government find criminals. Hell of a job man.
Yep and with Karl's huge find for evidence on Billy Mitchell to absolutely prove he's as much of a lying, bullying con man as he is. Man I can't wait for that court date in January since the Twin Galaxies lawyers who are fighting against Billy right just got the evidence that Karl found and will lead to Billy being off the game board for good, no more BS from that slimy clown.
hell of a jobst
God damn it, 10 minutes too late.
in case you forgot, karl is still being sued by billy mitchell. it's in his best interest to find as much against billy and help his own lawyers to get out on top, helping anyone else who is in court against billy just comes with it.
He's an absolute Legend
You know what's insane about this entire case? If Billy wasn't so litigation happy, he could have been spouting this slop until the day he died and no one would know any of this.
Most likely at least
If you notice, that’s how it goes with most cheaters that gets exposed. They start out small and nobody notice but they keep going until whatever they end up doing while cheating is so big that someone ends up checking it and they get fucked.
The good old Streisand effect
@@you0tuber6it's the same with crimes, too. Rob one shop/bank and you can probably get away with it. Try to do it frequently and you're way more likely to get caught. People (both cheaters and criminals) get complacent and sloppier with their work, and eventually slip up in some way.
You're wrong. People in the arcade world knows and that's what matters. That the arcade world hasn't had much interest to you, doesn't mean it doesn't matter.
@@Beeti1 The arcade world knew, but it's unlikely that anybody would have meaningfully challenged him on it.
Love how he says "you're wrong" in a confident voice to the proscecutor while at the same time turning his head and avoiding eye contact, he really has his head so far up his own ass he actually thinks he's really good at lying even though he isn't. It just comes out looking like he's on drugs.
Bro does look doped up as hell Ngl doesn’t look very aware or awake for that matter looks like he’s about to pass out
Perhaps the saddest part of this all is that Billy had a huge opportunity to step aside and be the hero of a different era. Rather than fake anything, Billy had ages where her could have said, "it was a different time, and you kids have your own standards and records." He could have been immortalized in legend, yet he couldn't help but tie his entire identity to that one event and lie over and over again to cling onto it.
But this lie helped him get work. This is what he does for a living.
You don't seem to have understood what it's about.
Yea this is exactly what I don't understand about billy he could have immortalised himself if he accepted times change, tools and ways to work out how to get a WR change, and gaming as a whole changes, you can't be on top forever so why fight it? You'd be remembered better if you just accepted you were good at a time where all these tools were unavailable but are getting on in age... now he'll be remembered merely as a pathetic con-artist willing to commit perjury just to cling on to a silly set of gaming scores.. he's gone beyond the looking glass now *facepalm*.
@@TerribleFirehe a restauranteur as well restaurant called Ricky’s
@@TerribleFire that's a common misconception, what he does for a living and how he bankrolled TG was/is the family restaurant and hot sauces businesses he inherited. that's why walter was so dependent on him.
sure he claims the conventions pay him 100k a year but you know billy, he is a bit of a mitchell.
the really big fuckup billy and day did was to not use king of kong as a platform to promote fair play and to show how interesting esports can be as a competition - instead they just showed that don't bother to do esports under TG's umbrella because rules are different for different people. he should've just tried to practice to beat him in a head to head or something like that instead of starting to use cheater tapes, then if he lost no big deal.
but billy just wanted to have forever scores. that's the whole point of finagling the perfect pacman rules to what they are, so he could be the first and you can only be the first once. then the first DK score was such that billy really thought nobody could beat it, since he didn't understand score optimization in the game at the time. basically he wanted to have his own dragster scores, he was never interested in actual competition.
I get so much joy from the fact that every single one of these billy Mitchell videos may end up played in front of an entire court and jury. The idea of them sitting through the sponsors and listening to karl call billy "silly bitchell" is just amazing
I never thought about that, but you are right. That will be amazing when they watch the pro wrasslin bit. And Karl smirks while Billy has to endure that.
It's like that scene from the Airplane!! Movies when they get in line to slap a hysterical woman.
Except they're Dope Slapping a selfmade Lying Clown!
Silly bitchell lmfao 😊
They won't.
@@Beeti1 go away
So to comment on the "why is his lawyer still defending him?" I want to talk a bit about a video I saw many years ago where a psychotic kid murdered his girlfriend's family (I think he was like 16, maybe 18 at most), he showed up to court wearing a shirt that said "KILLER" and seemed to have zero remorse. His lawyer was interviewed afterward about basically the same question, and his answer was really poignant. He said something along the lines of "Honestly, these are the types of cases that most need lawyers. I don't condone what my client did, I don't like my client, but my duty is to do right by the law and make sure it is handled correctly. Due process applies to *everyone*."
I see similar parallels here. Billy may lie with every other breath, but he is still entitled to legal representation like anyone else. Your client is paying you; you may not like them at all, you may not really even be trying to get them out of a charge, just making sure they aren't unfairly punished for the crimes they did commit. They are essentially just making sure the punishment fits the crime and due process is carried out correctly.
Yeah, it's important that every case, even seeming open-and-shut guilty cases, is properly tried. It's essential that we hold courts and prosecutors to a high standard so they do their jobs as thoroughly as possible, because if we start slacking on "obvious" cases, how long before we start slacking on all cases?
This case probably isn't one of them, but there have also been a lot of cases where it seemed open and shut... until later, sometimes years later, a new piece of evidence arises that changes everything. (DNA evidence is a big one! A lotta people went to prison for murder or rape until DNA evidence proved it was someone else.) So it's essential to a free and fair society that every case is prosecuted and defended as fairly as possible.
The lawyer defending that kid was almost certainly a public defender assigned to him by the state as part of a criminal case. The public defender cannot turn away clients, and his job as a government employee is to defend those who cannot provide their own defense. No such right is provided by anyone in civil court. Billy definitely should hire a good attorney for his litigation defense, but only a dipshit attorney would agree to take the case. The odd thing about this relationship is it's not clear how Billy has the money to pay his attorney's fees. Billy certainly preys upon others' inability to endlessly pay attorney fees by dragging out his frivolous lawsuits. Karl has racked up hundreds of thousands of dollars of fees with his own defense, but he never had a "right" to this defense attorney.
In both cases I assume it prevents any technicality that would let them go free, something I fully don't want to see happen!
The simplest answer would be ; "It's a job" For the lawyers it's not about the person, it's about the case and the legal challenge itself. Most surgeons don't like cutting people up, it's the thrill of solving the medical puzzle, it's not even about the person on the table.
14:15 let's not villainize his lawyer. Everyone (even Billy Mitchell) deserves legal representation. It's not the job of a lawyer to represent only the innocent clients, but to represent all clients they've taken on to the best of their ability. Even a guilty person can argue a mistrial because they lacked representation. So I'm willing to give the lawyer the benefit of the doubt and believe that he is doing what needs to be done so that no one else has to suffer.
Certainly everyone has the right to proper defense in a criminal trial which is why public defenders are provided by the state and federal governments, but no such right exists in civil court. You don't get a mistrial due to poor representation in defense against a lawsuit. In fact, Billy preys on people not being able to afford defense attorney fees by dragging out his frivolous lawsuits. Nothing is compelling this dipshit lawyer to take Billy's case. The odd thing about the relationship is it's not clear how Billy is able to pay for his attorney's fees, or if the guy is even charging him at all.
@@YuengsNwings That's a good point. I'd forgotten the difference between criminal and civil. With that in mind...I totally agree with you.
Yea, if anything i feel bad for lawyers with absolute morons as clients lol. I don't envy their jobs.
This is civil court, lawyers are optional. You actually can't have a case thrown out for that unless it's criminal charges.
@@JustFeral Oh god being Billy's lawyer must be HARD. Very hard.
Man I love how the lawyer is kinda just telling Billy to shut up. He just loves to talk his lying mouth off.
Billy: I am not a director.
Billy's lawyer: (In his head) Shut up, for Christ' sake!
I honestly think he can’t help it; he may be a compulsive liar and doesn’t even really intend to lie, and just does automatically with no thought behind it.
One of the final segments of the recent video released by Veritas is a montage of his lawyer trying to corral Billy's mouth during the deposition... it's hilarious.
@mattmanyam I can just imagine a recess, and Billy's lawyer saying, "Seriously, man, will you just shut up?! You're making my job harder because you are seemingly incapable of keeping fucking quiet!"
The lawyer is getting paid regardless, so they're just doing their best. At least they have the front row seat watching Billy crash and burn.
Karl casually dropin a clip of him wrestling with Billy is just pure gold 🤣🤣
Came here to say this. It’s straight fire. Karl bringing the thunder and styling while he does it.
YESSSS XD I LOVE THAT... what a legend
😂😂😅
Karl off the top rope 😂
I was wondering for a few sec who they were and then it clicked.
having been scammed several times, it's incumbent upon me to watch and learn about all types of scammers and cheats, thanks for keeping up the hard work Karl
I love how you can hear how utterly _done_ Billy's counsel is with all of his idiocy.
Just answer the questions, OKAY??
Having to constantly remind their client not to incriminate themselves must be incredibly frustrating for them.
they worked so hard to guide a response, for a second time "answer IF YOU KNOW" and he finally just says i dont know.
"I went through law school for THIS?!"
They still getting paid. 😂
11:17 the intense music followed by "Billy you silly bitch" killed me. I am dead now.
I love how Billy's lawyer is practically begging him to stop speculating and to just shut up. 😆
11:33
12:12
The hero we need
Love how he put his tail right between his legs after the "listen knock it off" oozing with dad energy while he's busy perjuring himself
BM has to be the most exhausting client
And then billy proceeds to speculate lmao
For someone that's spent a lifetime lying, he's terrible at it! Listening to him answer questions it's so obvious he's lying, his lawyer must be facepalming constantly 😀
The problem with lies is... remembering them, and details... that never happened. The truth is easy to remember. Lies are easy to fuck up.
I really hope the case reaches a conclusion in 2024 for everyone Billy has hurt and lied to. All the best Karl.
Yes. As enjoyable as these videos are, this needs to end so the innocent can get on with their lives.
Unfortunately even if this lawsuit ends Billy will just sue Twin Galaxies for defaming him by letting the court records be public
@@Smigglesdigytwin galaxies has nothing to do with court records and public information lol
@@samgoff5289 I know, do you think that would stop the great Billy "Sued for sharing a clip of my own words" Mitchell?
@@Smigglesdigyactually yeah.
It's great that they have to keep reeling Billy in and saying "Don't speculate. Answer the question only."
A conman through and through.
And his lawyer keep telling him to stfu everytime he give more info than just yes and no
@@Dragirek "And his lawyer keep telling him to stfu everytime he give more info than just yes and no" - And like all good narcissists, BIlly believes he knows better than his own lawyer, so he immediately forgets what his lawyer tells him (or simply disregards it).
It's interesting that it's his own lawyer telling him to stop speculating.
@@doom4067 It's likely cause they're losing and the lawyer is trying to stop Billie from making it worse.
@@doom4067not really, his job is to make sure Billy doesn't say something that can fuck them over later so he is doing his best to make sure he just says yes or no.
Speculation at this point can only hurt his case.
Honestly this entire story makes so much more sense when you realize how many L’s Billy has to take just from spelling his own name
He's no Todd Togers
Holy shit you fucking killed him dude
Milly Bitchell*
biLLy mitcheLL
"Billy won"
No, he and TG settled, and a settlement can go any which way the parties decide to settle. Unless you know the terms of the settlement, you cant even begin to analyze who "won." For all we know Billy has to pay TGs legal bills and his scores will never be reinstated.
Based on the evidence Karl has highlighted, it was in Billy's best interest this never went to open court.
Jobstcels are coping already. BillyCHADS stay winning
If you know something we don't, please share.
@@redundant6972
@MarcusBrannon cope
@@Balmung5150 if you know something we don't, please do share.
Billy getting busted by tax filings is exactly the crossover I wanted to see.
Refuse to believe people take billy mitchel serious when he sues people he disagrees with
I mean, our former president did the literal same thing when the election didn't go his way.
@@_Galaxymuffin_Trump sued THOUSANDS of people even before he became president. He's one of, if not the most, litigious people in the history of mankind.
Wow umm i take him serious... youll be hearing from my lawyers
Pretty typical American tbh
@@_Galaxymuffin_ and yet people will STILL VOTE FOR HIM! I’m not political but it’s insane to me
If Billy had seen his face on a website, using his image to further their goals, and Billy wasn't getting paid for it, he would have sued them for $100M by now.
What i think is insane is how if he‘d just been honest from the start, he'd probably still been a well known person in the retro gaming sphere.
Just because of what a eccentric personality he is.
If he moderated a show or something like that it would’ve worked.
But he rather lied…
I agree. If he had come clean day one. And just admitted it. But he double down, and tripled down... and started suing... it's like he read Lance Armstrong's book and used it as a road map...
I love that Billy's lawyer is like, "Dude stop expanding and stop trying to explain your lies. Just say 'yes' or 'no' and shut the fuck up.
But Billy's ego is so fucking huge, he can't help but talk.
True, the longer he talks the more lies come out of his mouth and his lawyer knows it :D
and still nothing will be done so whats there to love about it karl will leave this behind too like most of his accusations and nothing will be done once hype dies down he wont care
And the fact that Billy rolls his eyes and does it again, clearly not respecting the person trying to get him to stfu for his own good.
@@nozyy5684You do know legal proceedings generally can take years, no? All billy does is endlessly dig himself a deeper and deeper hole in this.
@nozyy5684 😢😢🤡🤡🤡🙄
Love how Karl was going absolutely HAM on Billy in the wrestling game. Truly incredible.
Billy's lawyer desperately trying to wrangle him into just answering the questions and not volunteering information is as amusing as it is tragic.
" tragic " implies William doesn't deserve it.
Billy: "I've never been on that website, and I've never been on that Facebook."
I bet his lawyer tried to kick him when he unnecessarily added that information, because in a month or so, it's going to come out that Karl discovered that Billy is the administrator for, and runs the daily scheduling of, the Facebook page for the International Video Game Hall of Fame.
Was that Billy's own lawyer objecting to his responses so as to control his answers?
I kept hearing someone object with regards to speculation, and then in the same sentence, with the same voice, instructing Billy to answer "only if you know."
@@cmshapThat is Billy's lawyer. It's normal in a deposition for your own lawyer to object for the record, but still allow you to answer the question. When the judge goes through the deposition later, you want the answers on record in case the judge doesn't sustain the objections. If the judge does sustain them, they'll remove the answers from the record.
It takes a pretty egregious question for your attorney to instruct you not to answer. Usually because it attempts to pierce the veil of attorney-client privilege.
-ally funny
Billy has transcended videogames and is now a meta gamer. His lying under oath is just a vessel by which he's grinding XP into his 'Fraudulence' skill tree.
The content of the lie serves no purpose, 'getting away with it' has become a goal unto itself. You'd be able to enter Billy's head you'd hear the boss music playing during this testimony.
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Hi Karl, if I can help answer any tax related questions, I’d love to get in contact and help out. I’m a Certified Public Accountant in the US and am familiar with both for profit and non-profit tax filings.
I thoroughly appreciate and support the light you shed on scummy people and it would be an absolute pleasure helping expose them.
Absolut Legend here
Get 'em Cow Man!
Extremely nice of you sir..
Commented for the bump. Godspeed.
We need to bump this higher so he can see it!
Nice try, Billy. We know this is you!!
Anybody else catch him going "And I'm DEFINITELY not on their Facebook," when absolutely nobody was talking about Facebook. Why is he volunteering info nobody asked for?!
Just a note to everyone out there. A lawyer will never ask a question they don't already know the answer to and they will for damn sure never ask a question they don't already know the answer to in a deposition setting.
As a general rule, agree. Unless they're desperate and fishing for something as a last resort.
A smart liar would give themself wiggle room such as "not that I recall" - and never back themselves into a corner by answering "no".
So the lawyer knew why the IVGHOF made Billy a director? Care to share it with everyone?
@@patheticpear2897 I believe the question was why would they SAY he's a director, not why they made him one.
@@greebjThe secret is to never ever recall anything
That's not really pertinent. The lawyers had a desired range of answers in mind when they ask a question like that. Depending on what the answers you continue or pivot and drill down on that answer. Every question is asked intentionally regardless of what people think the reasoning of that question is.
Just playing Devils advocate here... but the form @ 18:24 itself wouldn't have been submitted by Billy, and chances are he never even saw it. What's to stop him re-using his argument from 7:00? It doesn't necessarily prove he was a director, merely that the IVGHOF claimed he was a director on both their website and their filings.
Yes, whoever filled in the form (presumably Barry Flint) would have had to sign a big scary box with the usual perjury clause, so it would be weird if they would risk penalties over false filings, but lets not forget we're assuming actual competence here as the basis of the argument, and that's not something I associate with either Billy, or any of his associates. Maybe Barry thought Billy was on-board as a director but Billy didn't see it that way?
I agree that assuming fraud on Billy's part is absolutely a safe bet, I'd hate to see you tripped up in your legal wrangling's with him on a potentially moot point in the grand scheme of things.
Sure he could do that and then he would be accusing the IVHOF of tax fraud in a sworn deposition, calling them BS artists using his name for publicity is not really a big deal but accusing them of an actual crime is a different matter entirely.
Also it blows away any credibility his it was just PR hype argument has.
Why would the IVHOF name him as a director on a tax form?
Who were they trying to impress at the IRS by naming him and lying on a tax form?
It makes absolutely zero sense to name him as a director on that form unless he was a director.
So website shows he is a director, people who worked there all say he was a director, now filing of non profit shows he was a director. But that still isnt good enough since Billy can just say, hey I didnt know or wasnt aware? Interesting. Now if he said, as far as I am aware, I was never a director I think would of helped his case then, otherwise now he is pulling this company into the legal arena claiming they fraudulently listed him as a director. Good luck...
Man i bet he didnt see one of the youtubers he tried to strongarm into silence becoming one of the most crucial factors in his downfall. Came for the speedruns, stayed for the well researched and objective reporting. Love you karl ❤.
Especially since the first killed himself because of said strongarming
I mean Apollo Legend is where I first heard of this stuff so to me yes @@Lordidude
Not objective, there is heavy bias. Doesn't mean it's wrong
especially since the death of apollo legend.
Billy's lawyer is trying SOOOO hard to get him not to talk or run his mouth and get himself into trouble, but Billy just CAN'T help himself. That lawyer is practically begging him not to say anything, and then is probably face palming when he goes on yet another rant.
I swear Billy is regretting so HARD to ever mess with Karl.
Every other TH-camr got bullied away but not Karl.
Karl is out here on his Personal Vendeta and i LOVE it.
Keep kicking Billys butt Karl. Your doing Gods work.
I paused the video at 2:08 and I had no idea Fix It Felix Jr was a real game. I just thought it was something Disney made up.
It was something Disney made up, but a bunch of "promotional cabinets" have been made.
Edit : cabinets with working games
oh okay thanks@@TarenGarond
Billy is just a goldmine of brainrot at this point
This needs to be a documentary when this is over
@@liam6170 Con of Kong
One day a history undergrad will write a 10 page paper with Billy being a major character in it
@@RipRLeeErmeyKing of Con
The Wrath of Con?
Its just a trait of compulsive liars. I had a friend who was like this, used to lie about bizarre things that didnt even need lying about, used to just go along with the lies in the end
Thaaaaaat's how gaslighting works. The next step is internalizing the lies that you just go along with.
I was one. I dropped the habit when I got sober. I like how even it doesn't make sense. You paradoxaly you think it works.
Very Tommy Tallerico-esque
@@JJ-qo7thits not about gaslighting you dollt
It's so funny how Billy's lawyer has to keep telling him to shut up because he knows he's going to keep digging a bottomless pit of lies
Nah, that's the first two rules of a Deposition. 1. Only answer the questions, noting else. 2. Don't answer the ones where you admit you're guilty. If any lawyer doesn't enforce those two rules onto the client, they're doing their client and their own reputation a huge disservice.
14:14 has me scratching my head.. Do you not know how lawyers work?
Can you imagine a lawyer dropping a client because they don't believe them? 😂
People are only entitled to lawyers in criminal cases
I love how the longer this goes on, the less professionalism and courtesy Karl is willing to show to anyone involved in this mess. You can tell by just how blunt he's starting to be when describing anything.
I'm sure he consults with his lawyers on what he is and isn't allowed to say about it, but I suspect it being increasingly blunt/direct is based on how more and more obvious it becomes that almost the entire deposition was just lie after lie, and that there's nearly zero chance Billy wins the lawsuit.
@@jean-philipperoussy6610 hi Billy
@@jean-philipperoussy6610 bro he's being sued for like a million dollars by this jackass, of course he has to make videos to pay for his defense, and I doubt you'd be showing a great deal courtesy if you were in a similar position
I bet @@jean-philipperoussy6610 is actually fun at parties, but only for people who think its fun to laugh at stupid people trying to seem smart
@@jean-philipperoussy6610 I don't think you know what has truly transpired to say this
11:30 "Billy, you silly bitch"
🤣🤣🤣
I laughed soooo so hard at that 🤣👊👍
I love how Karl is just transitioning from talking about GoldenEye speedruns to straight up investigative journalism. I'm here for it
Darkviper went down a similar rabbit hole, both guys are great content creators
now we need to see him do a colab with cofeezilla
he's got a Goldeneye for bullshit
cofezilla does stuff karl just makes videos about people until the views die down and then stops without solving any of the issues @@mayoral_fabrication
@@aegisxor congrats, you just won the internet for today :D
Billy's lawyer sounds so fed up with his client's shit lmao
Dude Karl is on a war path with Billy Mitchell. This is great. I saw Billy once out in wild at an airport once randomly. Didn’t know who he was but he stood out so much that I’ll never forget him. Thought he was a musician at first.
It's entirely Billy's fault that Karl has to take it this far.
If he would be a musician he would be like a member of Milli Vanilli
@@AzureKaioshin 8 way? Red? Billy?
Never! It simply can't be true! Billy doesn't care if the picture shows a supposedly red joystick.
I still can't get over just how much he looks like the bad guy from Hackers
@@MarkBonneauxToo perfect.
The video of twin galaxy's lawyer interviewing Billy is honestly extremely interesting. This video has been out for months now and it's still being analyzed due to how many lies and contradictions it has. I honestly wonder if psychology and law professors will use this video in classes to teach people how pathological lairs behave
I’ve watched Billy Mitchell’s six-hour deposition from his lawsuit against Twin Galaxies, all the way through, twice. I’ve spent an unreasonably vast amount of time researching this stuff while I should be writing a dissertation about something else. Billy has spent his career telling bizarre and inconsistent lies with very little restraint. By contrast, in his lawsuit, he has endeavored to restrain his lying to be more-or-less consistent across his various legal documents and statements. This boxes him into saying a lot of bizarre things, in a painstaking effort to avoid contradicting his previous official statements.
So now he’s basically required to stick to some of his own wild half-baked cover stories for previous lies. This explains *some* of his wild lies, such as the one about Carlos “not working at his behest” (see below). However, oddly enough, I do not think any of Billy’s previous statements required him to pretend not to be a Hall of Fame director-so this particular lie is still baffling. Here are some of the weirdest things Billy appears to say in his deposition:
1. Billy never helped Carlos Pineiro et al in testing any equipment, and Carlos et al didn’t do anything “for” Billy or on Billy’s “behalf” or at his “behest.” Billy just accepted their offers to test equipment (while knowing & approving of the purpose of it), and he played Donkey Kong while they were testing it (but he was going to play DK anyway, and anyone else could have played DK instead), and he provided equipment such as a television (but this was not to help Carlos et al-it was just to provide the TV to Rob’s shop, whilst knowing & approving of the fact that Rob’s shop would thereby use the TV for the testing by Carlos et al).
2. Billy has never seen “King of Kong” or ANY movie that he has EVER been featured in.
3. Billy has never been a director of the International Video Game Hall of Fame.
4. Billy has never looked at the IVGHOF website in his life. He had no idea, and no way of knowing, that its website had listed him as a “director” for years.
5. Billy has never looked at the Twin Galaxies website a single time in his entire life.
6. Billy has never been a leader or co-owner of TG in any way whatsoever.
7. Billy knows very little, and can produce very little documentation, about his own financials. (This is bizarre, since he is a business owner-and he needs to provide documentation to prove “damages” in the defamation suit.)
8. Billy has never actually watched ANY versions of the putative 1.047M or 1.050M Donkey Kong tapes which Carlos et al spent weeks analyzing. (I think THIS one shocked me the most! The idea that Billy could have gone all these years, amidst all this controversy, without ever once watching the videos themselves, is *mind-boggling*. There is no way this is true, and it is one of the weirdest lies I’ve ever heard him tell.)
Note: This isn't a full list of lies in the deposition. There is other stuff like Billy's crazy lies about the joystick, and Music City Multi Con, which have been covered at length elsewhere by Karl (and by the recent long video by Veritas). And also Billy says other weird things in the deposition attacking Dwayne Richard and Carlos Pineiro, which I'm quite sure are also false, but which I haven't looked into quite as much.
He really does the classic signs of it, like adding details to stories needlessly
@@Megaritz Honestly, I'm starting to think that his lawyer told him "Deny Everything" before going into the deposition and it ended up biting majorly in his ass.
@@rphntw1n I don't know if there's a forum. There is still an ongoing Billy Mitchell "post-verdict dispute" thread on the Twin Galaxies forum, but it has barely been updated in the last year. However, by far the most detailed website about Billy Mitchell is called "Perfect Pacman" by Ersatz_Cats. You can find an immense amount of Billy Mitchell lore there, including both the famous Donkey Kong saga and the slightly lesser-known "Perfect Pacman" saga. The site is already a pretty solid compendium of information across its many articles for the last few years. Various of its articles also have links to interviews with various former associates of Twin Galaxies and/or ex-members of Team Billy, etc.
Also, a TH-camr called Veritas recently made a 4-hour video on Billy and the evidence against him. He doesn't cover the Pacman stuff (except the interlude on Music City) or the lawsuit much, but he does a great explanation on the evidence that Billy cheated at Donkey Kong, and rebuttals to basically all Billy's main defenses. I think he intuitively clarifies the evidence that Billy used MAME and why it matters.
Be sure to watch all the videos by Karl Jobst as well, if you haven't already. Karl himself hasn't made a playlist, but someone else has. You can find it by searching "Karl Jobst Billy Mitchell," and the playlist (all 21 videos, including a few about Todd Rogers also) should appear within the first few results.
Just the fact that he had, ' you're wrong'' SOOO loaded up and ready to go just shows he's knew that question would be asked and that he is lying!
you can just hear billy's lawyer constantly being like "god DAMN it billy, JUST answer questions, do NOT say anything else"
I think he lies because he can't handle feeling like anyone has any upper hand over him at any point, ever, which has progressed to feeling like if he's not manipulating everyone and totally in control then he's somehow worthless. All it took was for the lawyer to ask about something Billy thought he could lie about in order to feel like he had manipulated the situation, and he took the opportunity to do just that. Billy just has to be the smartest person in every room at all times and it constantly bites him in the ass.
I mean, to be fair he IS worthless lol
I agree. He can't handle it.
Narcissism, thy name is Billy Mitchell
My theory is that, if it was confirmed he was a director, he would be asked if he couldn't just retrieve the "awards" using his position, so by denying it he would excuse "not being able to get them back".
That's the only way all of this makes a little bit of sense.
Its got to be something to do with the awards why he didn't want to associate himself with the videogame hall of fame
@@Lordidude Yeah that also makes sense.
I'm honestly wondering if the hall of fame might have some buried dark secrets of their own he doesn't want people digging up and connecting him with.
As much of a total bell end as Billy is. Seeing his face in a Karl upload never ceases to make me smile.
Right? I hang out for these!
Why reveal this publicly before the Twin Galaxies lawyer has a chance to take Billy by surprise in court? This is just giving him and his lawyers time to prepare.
I believe both sides have to have access to the evidence their opposition plans to present during court regardless. Given this ongoing saga, I'm pretty sure Karl cleared at least the concept for this video with Twin Galaxies' legal team before uploading.
Narcissists are fascinating creatures when their facade breaks down, because unlike normal people they will NEVER give up on it or acknowledge reality, so long as it does not comport with their facade. Most likely, even after failing in court repeatedly and being exposed publicly, to his own face, he will simply move on and continue the facade as if none of this ever happened and he's been right all along.
For a narcissist, admitting a personal failing is worse than death. It truly may never happen.
Sounds exactly like tRump.
Psychologists in universities have been known to use Donald Trump as a new *textbook* example of a narcissist.
@@ncc1701deee Just shut up you know hes not paying you rent right. what the hell does this have to do with trump. Nothing! Grow past your programing your here in comments for video games acting like a tool.
@@eyeCubish Lol like the teachers now know anything but their programing
@@ncc1701deeei love your pfp :)
Billy probably didn't want to out himself as a director because he is such a humble person who doesn't like to brag.
Still broke AF, still supporting how I can at the moment! More loot coming your way when times are better for me. Thank you for all your GREAT videos. Love em!
I'm sure the only reason he felt confident lying about not being a director is because he thought all the hard evidence was covered up. As he said, it doesn't matter if the website says he's a director, because any and all tax filings that undeniably prove he's a director are long gone... or so he thought.
I imagine he lied about being a director because he had already said he donated the plaques and he wasn't sure where the lawyer was going next and thought if he denied any official link to the organisation he could also deny any possible knowledge of what happened to the plaques after their donation.
Agreed, he didn't like where the lawyer was taking the questions because he wanted the missing plaques to remain in the dark, so he decided to prevent those lines of questions. However, it seems Billy dug himself yet another hole he can't climb out of.
Your lawyer will represent you as long as you pay them. They can tell you not to lie, but they can't call you out for it in the middle of a deposition.
If lawyers didn't represent liars, the legal system would collapse.
Yeah that weirded me out a bit.. Was thinking "does this dude not know how lawyers work?".. 😂
Also it's difficult for lawyers to leave a lawsuit that's already in progress. Not impossible, but they need a really good reason. Otherwise it wouldn't be fair to whoever they suddenly stopped representing.
@@bilateralrope8643 Yes, they'd have to get permission from the court.
Agreed. Maybe in Australia it's different, but he needs to drop the stuff about how dumb his lawyers are. It's irrelevant. Stick to what matters.
@@eriklarson9137 He can say whatever the fuck he wants. Karl is gonna win this suit. Cope, Billy Mitchell stan.
This video is a reminder to the Completionist that Karl knows what's he's doing.
Watching this deposition is painful, Billy's attorney either has never told him how to act in a deposition, or Billy just can't listen.
He's a narcist. He needs to be in control of the situation. He tries that by talking and lying as every other narcist does.
I'm pretty sure it is the latter unless the lawyers he hired were even more inept than I thought (and I already thought they were pretty inept).
It seems like at this point Billy sees every question he's ever being asked as a trick to catch him so he just keeps saying the opposite of whatever he thinks the one who asked wants to hear lmao
Is it true that youre straight billy?
What? No, never. Always been gay, i swear.
Could be... seems like it
At this point Billy is just doing this for the memes, right???
I think it's impulsive for him. Like, he absolutely must be perceived as the greatest gamer of all time or he will literally die. Honestly I kinda hope he's able to get past it for his own sake.
I really, really think Billy is self aware, but also has the most massive ego on the planet and doesn't realize HE is the joke, and we are laughing AT him. I swear, he's Donald Trump of the video game world. Just an absolute buffoon, habitual liar and lolcow
He should, at this point. His supporters are declining faster than the stock market crash
Dude he has to be, there's no way someone can be that stubborn, like he has to be doing it for publicity right?
You commented this before even watching the video...
All Billy had to do was just quietly admit he had cheated and get out of the public eye. All Billy had to do was ignore Karl's videos. But, no, his narcissism couldn't allow that. And he also really had to stoke some fires under Karl.
Bullying others may have gotten him far in life, but times have changed.
He did it to poor Apollo and he’s doing it to poor Karl at this point Billy is not just a cheater he’s a monster
"Bullying others may have gotten him far in life, but times have changed"- Sadly, bullying is a time-honored tradition for the wealthy, powerful, and/or connected, and it is nearly always successful. Times have not changed as much as you would seem to indicate. If Karl didn't have others financially helping him with his defense, then Billy's bullying would have been immediately successful.
He didn't even have to admit that he cheated. I had never heard of him until he started suing people
@@liam6170rip my man Apollo legend
There's compulsive lying-which I'm not going to defend, just personally I find it more tragic than offensive-and then there's lashing out and trying to ruin the lives of people who expose you. Some pathological liars retain a sense of shame, and run away when they're exposed. Billy's hostility isn't a pathology-he's just a completely terrible person.
Although if it makes you feel any better (for me this is the tragic part) Billy probably hasn't had an authentic emotional connection with another human being since 1982. That's my whole entire life, plus two years. I'm not young! I'm 40! I'd pity him if it weren't for, you know, the aforementioned "actively hurting people" thing.
Just found this series, but as a lawyer, this story has been the gift that keeps on giving😂
Hell yeah, Karl pulling up on New Years with more Billy Mitchell hilarity. Billy truly is the gift that keeps on giving.
Billy's lawyer saying "just answer the question" has me 😂 even his lawyer is tired of his hole digging
I have a feeling Billy hasn't been completely honest with us
You’re just jealous man
14:15 I am sorry but you dont question why a lawyer choose to represent a certain client. It is their professional duty to provide service to those who seek them regardless of who they are. Just because a murderer is a bad person doesnt mean he is not allow to have a lawyer in court.