Gundress: The BIGGEST DISASTER In Anime Film History (ANIME ABANDON)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2024
- It's a story of errors and ineptitude, as we delve into the shaky, and mysterious history of the biggest disaster in anime film history, Gundress.
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I don't know why but I find it so sadistically enjoyable to learn about film production disasters and incompetent director decisions. I know it's mean to laugh at a person's project when it fails, but when it has no care or passion put into it that's when I feel a bit less guilty for laughing at a projects downfall.
As an animation student, I have to agree that a lot of people don't know just how long the animation process takes. It can take days for a team just to create 3 seconds of raw footage ready for editing.
It also depends on your budget and art style. For example Spider-Man Into the Spider-verse took 1 year just to nail the animation style before they even actually properly begun making the movie.
@@brendanmilburn9067 Even just doing "Rejected Era" Don Hertzfeldt style animation is a royal pain in the ass.
Depends on the tools you're using and your level of ambition, the greater the ambition the more time effort is involved triply so in the days cell animation and optical cameras. Storyboarding and key framing I think are one the least understood and appreciated elements of the animation process. The visual bones of the art, you blow it there every other step in the visual process that follows suffers
Of course if you go with what I call the Ken Burns (even though he didn't invent it) slow pan approach to "animation" you can churn that crap out in pretty short order hell at that point its nearly more strait video editing than animation.
YIKES
Truth, unless you got some masterwork level people it ain't happening especially when it is stuff they don't understand. People wonder why a lot of animations outside of bigger projects are much simpler
This came out in 1999? I would have said 1989. The garish coloring and scratchy line art looked dated as hell, especially considering stuff like S.E. Lain and Cardcaptor Sakura had come out the year prior - this was the dawn of the digipaint era (although early digipaint anime was a bit rough around the edges.)
You seem livelier, like you're enjoying this again. I hope that's the case, it's my favorite version of your work: having fun.
@@KingOfDarknessAndEvil He ran into a bit of burnout a month or two ago. Covid fouled up some personal plans he was really set on (like getting married for one thing). He posted a video on it as a channel update.
I'm glad he's back in the groove again. Not just for the content, but he looks like he really is having fun with it once more.
I've never seen Sage this giddy for a terrible anime before.
I wasn't sure if it was a happy laugh or a scared laugh
@@MultiYogibear probably both
That needed a Josuke snicker meme i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/175/910/196.gif
Sounded like the Twilight laugh Michael Bolton made.
@@connorrivers995 "Michael Sheen." ;)
Mamoru Oshii described Masamune Shirow as a very mysterious man, who hardly anyone has ever met. Which sounds like a polite way of calling him a recluse.
I think Masamune Shirow would be the first to describe himself as a creepy weirdo. Because he does, very frequently.
So Masamune Shirow is to anime what Bill Watersson is for comic strips? A bigfoot? :D :D :D :D
Reflects in his work
Honestly, his comments on how the Japanese say things without actually saying them just kinda reminded me of Timothy Spall's character in the Last Samurai. "I had an unfortunate habit of telling the truth in a country where no one ever says what they mean. So now, I very accurately translate other people's lies." Just got me thinking about it.
I went to school and studied martial arts in Japan. That entire film spoke to me on a really strange level. That character was pretty much me, all the time in Japan. Even in the US people see me as strange. I don't exactly speak my mind. I try to be kind but, I do always tell the truth. I simply don't lie. Which, ironically, has had people branding me as a liar in both countries. x_x
@@tarrker Where in the US are you?
@@Genevieve1023 I was born and raised in Lancaster Pennsylvania. I've found that the people make the place. I'm not sure how it happened but, Lancaster County is now a great place to live. My wife and I are VERY poor but, we've never really had to struggle. That's all thanks to the people here. :)
good to see you back, bennett. good luck in your personal moving goals.
'Chicks! Dig! Giant Robots!'
Welp, time to go back into the Crying Corner with the knowledge we will never have that back.
It's always a good day whenever Papa Sage gets that glint in his eye.
You can tell this is a live one.
Me: "Oh come on, how bad can this anime be?"
Sage: "This is from the same makers as Ayane's High Kick, Dark Cat and Landlocked."
Me: "...please excuse me while I cry myself into a stupor."
Ayane's High kick...... OOF!
What's wrong with high kick?
What?
What is wrong with those?
Gundress, because even the name sounds like they went with the first thing that came to mind when they thought about women and mechs.
Could be worse. Could be about a dress made of guns. Wait, is that worse or better?
@@ShadowWingTronix depends on the dress design
And I realizdd that it is made to sound like "undress"
@@ShadowWingTronix depends on your expectation.
What is wrong with that? The female characters are not that bad either. I enjoy watching it alongside the Bubblegum Crisis anime.
Seeing Bennett with the popcorn is giving me Ultimate Teacher flashbacks.
Same here.
Thanks for the message. I should watch that epsiode.
So it wasn't just me
Giving ME flashbacks to Ninja Resurrection.
Now watch THIS sh!t
I frequently find myself wondering what anime in the 90s would have been like if Masami Obari never met Satoshi Urushihara.
Then I find myself wondering what state hentai would be in today if Masami Obari never met Satoshi Urushihara.
Yay?
Or YIKES?
The fire on the TV screen in the background of those interviews is really fitting.
*Gundress: The BIGGEST DISASTER In Anime Film History.*
_Grabs chair & popcorn._
And I was not disappointed.
It's like watching the fireworks from a distance. Just replace the fireworks with terrorist missiles managed by incompetent wannabes and getting to see said missiles redirecting to sender and the tools crashing and burning themselves.
huh, never knew Gundam SEED had a connection to Boku no Pico.............................
It makes so much sense though, when you think about it.
And I wish I hadn't.
And now we just wish we didn't.
It's funny how 5 million is considered a huge loss for a studio in japan, when you compare that to the 60 million lost on Food Fight here in the states it seems like small potatoes
I mean, it's most likely because of the different in value Japanese yen has compared to USA's dollar. I mean really high quality productions like The Wind Rises have a $30 million budget in USA currency. With that said though, Food Fight was a bigger embarrassment because there's no excuse of it ending up that bad of animation (and no, someone stealing the original movie is not a good excuse because that's when it should've been canceled, not horrifically salvaged), especially since 9 (2009) was able to be a fully CGI animated movie that's looks pretty good and had a $30 million budget.
I think it's cause they value the popularity in Japan than other places
I don't know much about the film industry but I'm gonna guess japanese cinema is a lot smaller with less money in it
Japanese cinema in general, including animation, has much smaller budgets to work with; for example, the budget per episode of an anime is on average something like half that of an American cartoon (and yes, this means Paw Patrol has more budget than pretty much any anime series). Also, most of the cash (even moreso than in the West) comes from licensing/merchandising, so if a film or series flops, it also kills any potential revenue from that.
@@paireon3419 not arguing the reasons why it's more expensive here, just that it's funny what is considered a major loss here compared to there. Plus one thing most people don't know is that sometimes big movie losses become tax write-offs oppose to most countries that probably don't allow that
Still looks more competently made than "Twinkle Nora rock me"
I got that reference.
Bennett: ". . . as well as. . . *deep pained sigh* . . . Boku no Pico."
Me: "HE HAS SPOKEN THE CURSED NAME~! FLEE FLEE FROM THE HORROR THAT LURKS BENEATH!!"
not only that,the director also worked in some of the Night Shift Nurses spin-offs and even in another hentai starring a feminine looking boy...
Dude...
25:50 That penguin...
That penguin has seen some serious sh*t
Of course, all paths lead to Boku no Picu
I think that shauve job to do that.
It more like all hentai leads to Boku no Picu
@@starmaker75 Just what ever you do, DON'T Convince Sage to Review that Mistake of a Series, The last thing we need is Boku no Picu turning our most respected and Reliable Anime Reviewer into a Drooling completely insane rutabaga!
@@joe95883 Plus, even Suave would be like "... nope, just nope, leave me out of this one."
@@starmaker75 Boku no Pico is about underage boys, not legal* women.
Suave would probably not only not be interested but disgusted and angry.
I honestly thought that was a JOKE when Sage said the same guy directed that.
I forgot Gundress exists until this review came out and I own it on dvd. That tells you something.
I really want sage to review the Power Puff anime, mostly to see him suffer
why? isn't Bennet stressed enough as it is
@@1391Ghost suffer in a fun way
You mean Z? IDK they appear to have "realistic" proportions and not looking like literal big headed poppets like OG PPG. It's just going full on "Magical Girl" troupes, transformations n' all.
The powerpuff girls anime is still better than the 2016 reboot tbh
@@magicalpasta5462 agreed
19:02 Look at those frames, 16 TIMES THE DETAIL!!!
Well, to be fair, 16 x 0 is...
IT JUST WORKS!
In this ancient review of Gundress (theanimeacademy.wordpress.com/the-stacks/the-stacks-g/gundress/), the reviewer found a statement from the director stating that the film was going to blur the line between animation and live-action. Let that notion sit in your brain for a moment.
@@Zelkiiro >>the film was going to blur the line between animation and live-action...
"OMG, this looks like a big, steamy turd and I cannot tell if it's animated or real!"
27:56 Actually the former criminal working for a group meant to stop people like them is the one thing that makes sense. Many similar groups do that, like how more extreme security companies will have a former cat burglar on staff to test the current security system.
Ah this story is my favorite type of trainwreck... The one that keeps on getting worse.
"Who do they think they are? Bethesda?" If only CP 2077 had came out a little earlier and this joke would be so different
At the very least Fallout 76 is still on PSN!
Considering it worked perfectly fine besides minor bugs like a floating street sign on PC
Not really
@@KaoticReach1999 Hows that PC save file doing?
Puff
Masamune Shirow was hired by Marvel Comis once to do a Jean Grey / Phoenix comis and then was shortly canceled when finding out was becoming straight up porn. That actually happened.
Oh god XD. Shirow isn't interested in stories at all, he just produced softcore porn every day because he likes it.
Where did you hear that?
Ok I am old-taku from the 1980's and I have watched this channel for over a decade now. That thing at the end is the first anime I can say I have never even heard of before.
Let's realize btw that Werner Herzog CRIED when he saw the Baby Yoda puppet on the Mandalorian set in action, and told Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni, "Don't be cowards and use CG." The same man who as we saw here, had to deal with Klaus "fucking nut" Kinski.
It’s hilarious
Wow. Imagine how the Prequels Trilogy would have turned out of Herzog was on set. And not in any official role, just appearing out of and back into the ether at will, seemingly teleporting in front of George Lucas to advise him on something.
14:53 Sounds like every snobby teenage otaku who thinks that Western Animation is inferior, has ugly characters and that all Anime is flawless and beautiful... yet haven't seen a lot of anime besides isekai and current to know that isn't true.
Isekai has so many cookie-cutter characters and tropes. I have yet to find one I genuinely enjoy.
I consider that behind the scene story less hilarious and more "What the heck is going on, which devil someone made deal with?!" baffling :D
(though yeah seeing "finished" product is hilarious)
Gundress: The BIGGEST DISASTERS In Anime Film History.
Me: What a waste of Namco cash, Nikkatsu.
More cuts of Sage eating popcorn with a gleeful smile is something I'd love to see more of. Dunno why but this part cracked me up good. 20:18
Woah, Yikes! It's been literally YEARS since I have seen ANYTHING to do with Rosetta Stone. Talk about a flashback to T.V. commercials.
I really enjoyed all the behind the scenes info, your explanations were super fun and easy to follow.
Wow, and here I thought the animation from Captain N looked unfinished.
This the anime equivalent of Food Fight. In more ways than one.
Thank you!!! I bought this movie off of eBay many years ago just because it had Masamune Shirow’s name attached to it. When I watched it I was like “What the Hell is going on?” This review explains so much.
Bennett The Sage: And this will be the last time I mention Boku no Pico.
Boku no Pico: Oh we're far from finished. Dont't worry, we will meet again Bennett The Sage. We will.
... So the director here failed in all the possible ways... And yet managed to "direct" Pico... Oh God... Oh my fucking God.... Fuck this. I'm out.
Bro you have been doing this channel since I was in high school. I'm almost 35 now bro. Thank you for the content over the years and not burning out.
The math doesn't add up
Me at start of video: It can’t be that bad!
Me after hearing the history leading up to this anime: 🍿🍿🍿🍿
Me at end of video: Yep, that was one heck of a train wreck. *munches on popcorn*
How is it that there always seems to be a big anime disaster you HAVEN’T covered yet?? Your work just never seems to be done, Sage.
Chicks Dig Giant Robots is still one of the greatest intro themes in all of western animation.
When discussing the botching of “Jean-Luc” it’s a pity the scene of Q mispronouncing Picard’s name in _TNG: “Tapestry”_ wasn’t used. He may not be Linkara levels of Trekkie, but it was a ripe reference to make.
24:12
“And Baku no Pico. And I assure you that’s the last time this anime will ever be mentioned on Anime Abandon.”
Gundress is the forgotten clone of Ghost in the Shell, and a poorly made clone at that. I barely remember this movie but I’ve wanted you to review it for a long time
I love that Sage face at about 7:50 basically silently continues the sentence "...and I can't look away"
This makes Star Trek The Motion Picture look like a trouble free walk in the park movie release!
man was this great I am super happy you talked of the making of this film instead of the film proper cause this is a mess and seeing how all the ingredients for that mess were there from the beginning it is not hard to see why it turned out that way what is appalling though is that anyone in america would pay money to distribute it here like it would somehow succeed despite failing so hard in japan truly outrageous
This was an interesting watch. I love learning about the behind the scenes stuff of animation films and shows, especially anime from the 90s. Also, OBARI TIME, BABY!
I can listen to that laughter at the end all day long. Which is good, because it now haunts my dreams forever.
Honestly, none of this is surprising for Nikkatsu - the studio literally blacklisted a director for making films that were too weird for them. (RIP Seijun Suzuki.)
I really dig the more in-depth looks into the making of these failures, even trash can have an interesting origin story
11:04 I feel like that's a pretty big tone shift in character bio
"Oh she has big tiddies and is pretty smart and oh yeah SHE WILL NOT HESITATE TO COMMIT WAR CRIMES oh and she has a sharp personality"
The moment "Boku No Pico" was mentioned my eyes went from -_- to O_O in a matter of half a second...
Oh bo... I mean... Oh god... That is one hell of a career path, eh ? To be mentioned as someone even remotely close to that thing...
Love the macho man shirt, Ben. Dig it!
I always wondered what happened to this one! I remember seeing a lot of hype for it back in older resources like Animerica magazine, or at Suncoast, but then...nothing. That backstory definitely pulls the triple facepalm. Good one Sage, and Oh Boy! Obari!
Somebody who remembers Suncoast!!! That's where my sister and I would buy Tenchi Universe DVDs. I miss that place; I'm not sure those are even open anywhere anymore.
I tried watching this movie a couple years ago around the same time as the original Appleseed OVA. I got so bored that by the time my computer shut down in the last 30 minutes, I gave up and just deleted it.
To be fair, Masamune Shirow is notoriously camera shy, there's like 2 pictures of him in total and they're all at least 30 years old. Even if he was the writer, producer and director of this movie i don't think he would've appeared in the BTS footage.
this is my favorite episode in a long time. i really dig the behind the scenes stuff. I am sure these probably take longer to make, but 100% worth it. Can't wait for the next episode
BRING ON THE OBARI!!!!
Still waiting on BASTARD!! though. You teased me and took it away.
You wound me, Sage...
Yeah he was supposed to do that by now, but he ended up changing his whole schedule for this year. He also cancelled some other reviews like Trinity Blood, Afro Samurai, Ghost Stories and Serial Experiments Lain.
@@CornishCreamtea07 Wow, Serial Experiments Lain? That's a name I have not heard in a long time.....
Doesn't the BASTARD!! anime not even get to any of the crazy shit, or the infamous triple-cliffhanger ending we're stuck with forever?
I'm still waiting for him to do Angel Blade:Punish.
@@IrishKyokushin I love going back to see Bennett say, "Obari, if you want to make a hentai, make a hentai!"
He really took the ball and ran with that one, huh?
Woman says to a man: "You can do as you want." Literally every otaku dream ever.... which will forever remain a dream. Even paid prostitutes will NOT let you "do as you want."
These mofos really tanked a successful actress's career so hard she went from screen acting to animated porn. That is the most hilariously unintentionally evil thing I've heard of in ages.
Dark cat? The fuck is...*sees the tentacle*
So that's where that fucking clip came from!
For the sake of transparency, this now edited comment was used to advertise the original sponsor of this video, which has also since been edited to remove said sponsorship integration, as the intended period of time for it's inclusion has ended.
How's the Italian going?
@@crpalstuck2966 the language or his partner?(joke).
I had to learn Japanese the hard way when I was stationed there in the 90s. Be grateful for these language programs.
Quick story: I needed a dress uniform sewn in a hurry for a promotion ceremony and was able to get a tailor out in town to do it in a day. I dropped off the rest of my uniforms with it, but told them not to rush, as I could get the rest of them in a few days.
When I went back, they had ALL the uniforms done perfectly. I was so impressed I gave them a big tip for the excellent work.
This was how I found out that at most establishments, giving a tip tells them that the service was poor and I want to give them money to improve their business. The person at the counter was mortified and the owner was incredibly insulted. I had no idea why they were mad until someone explained to me what I had done wrong.
TL:DR Learn another language and culture. It's good for you and prevents you from insulting people trying to help you.
Long time fan. You Rule! I like laeraning espanol myself.
I tried a free trial of the Japanese version many years ago, and found it to be a lot of frustrating guessing. "Which picture does this word go with?" "I dunno, they're all houses. What is being described here?" Maybe I needed to stick it out longer to get used to it? Does it work any different now?
Early Access: the anime
This is a fascinating clusterfuck of a an anime. The documentary format was interesting.
For the next time as soon as you zoomed in I gave an audible gasp. Gonna be fun.
"The legs is too thin" is not an excuse to say it's hard to animate... Gunbuster is too big to exist and Gundam is not realistic as war machine... Isn't the reason why we make anime is because we can make whatever we want?
28:56 Did Sage just do the Aro laugh? XD
:0 I literally have this expression when I saw the part which they allegedly released in theaters
Anybody else catch that Castlevania reference sage made at the end with his shrill tremulous voice
I thought he was impersonating Michael Sheen in the last Twilight movie.
Now im just waiting to see the next review because if obari is involved it's gonna be a good one.
The nylon bags never got shipped out lol 😆
I love checking out an old unknown series and finding a video essay about it. Best part of TH-cam
cards on the table: i dont even watch anime. ive been subbed to bennet for like 4 years and ive watched like 3 animes in my lifetime. i dont understand half the things he references to but damn is he good at delivering them. just love the overall flow of his videos, its wonderful to watch.
Well, i too must admit to being more into manga than anime, but i too like his style and also use his videos to find some anime oldies to watch, as i really don't like the majority of modern productions 😅🤷♂️
Dang do I suddenly want to see the incomplete sketchy version of this disaster.
Seeing something like this reminds us of the accomplishment that something like Appleseed and Bubblegum Crises represent. It's all too easy to think such accomplishments are easy and routine. Gundress reminds us that even with a team of experienced pros and lots of money, failure is still very much an option. As a huge Shiro fan, this is a double disappointment for me.
22:22 - OMG! I think I know this, actually. I was living in Japan at the time and I used to go to movies all the time with my dad, in Tokyo. If memory serves me, it was about 1,300 yen. That's roughly $13 American, at the time. I remember having to budget my allowance and planning around going to see some movies.
Hope you are doing better Sage. I live in Italy and can't see my fiancee either. And to say we were just preparing to move together into our first house. Meh, it's going to get better, eventually. Loved the review btw, keep at it, hotshot.
You're probably the only anime critic that isn't annoying
Agreed. Too many other critics are the waifu-pillows-everywhere "weeb" types who constantly spam broken Japanese or so unbelievably elitist that they refuse to acknowledge anything else. While Bennett definitely prefers older anime, he still gives credit where it's due to some of the more modern stuff. Anime Abandon is perhaps the only anime-related TH-cam series I can watch.
There are probably others that are like Sage, but yeah he’s the first that I’ve noticed that doesn’t act “Anime crazy.” He reviews his anime like he were lecturing at a college.
Bennet is the only anime channel I watch for the same reasons.
It helps that he isn't one of those 'Dubs bad' kinda anime fans.
Facts
Ah, he looks like he really had fun with this episode.
... could you maybe do this with "Twinkle Nora Rock Me!"? Really curious how that came into being.
I'm not one to bitch about animation quality, but I don't think I will ever be able to do so after thinking about the poor people who bought tickets for this film.
Not only did they lift the mech designs from Appleseed but they lifted Sephiroth's design for Jan-Luck
7:45 this isn't just a car crash it the god damn Hindenburg of anime!
The Media blasters intro was gold.
I remember owning gundress way back when it’s very schlocky I only picked it up because it was from the Character designer of ghost in the shell.
Some of those "pink films" were brought to us via, hold onto your corn cob pipe, Central Park Media. So Sage, will Anime Abandon delve into that genre with Suave at the helm?
Proud of myself for guessing Media Blasters correctly. Ah, good times. Good times.
Wow the music behind the Rosetta stone ad is totally the title screen of Genshin Impact music
Masamune Shirow is famously a recluse. I'm not sure he shows up for much of anything.
The anime has neither a Wikipedia page nor a TV Tropes page. That's pretty much a sign that it's been lost to time.
HOLY CRAP
WTF, did TH-cam not send me a notification for this? I just found it in my recommendations but not in my susbscriptions.
Masamune contributed to Gundress almost as much as Studio Trigger contributed to Darling In The Franxx.
28:55 that laugh is strangely familiar . . .
I'm an idiot when it comes to people, can somebody explain to me the giddiness caused by the director of episodes 1&2, Masami Obari?
It's deep lore.
I miss the old opening and endings but good to see you still trucking along sage. How are swave and the other guy doing?
I know that anime does have its pros. But the balls of these people to claim that the actual ANIMATION was internationally revered, at the same time Disney was making fluid masterpieces like Beauty and the Beast.. I mean, let’s face it. The best animated anime in the world is still stiff and lifeless, from a purely motion-based metric, compared to Steamboat Willie.