Oddworld Lore: Sleeches

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  • @pupbenny
    @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    It'd be really interesting for the relationship between the Sleeches and the Fleeches to be explored further in future Oddworld media. We know so little about the Sleeches, I wonder if we'll see more of them eventually!

  • @MithrilRoshi
    @MithrilRoshi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I can imagine its like this; Sleeches put their 'babies' outside to eat and devour things away from their proper home because its less competition for food there and they dont need to worry as they are also bigger and tougher than themselves.
    But since they are more of a pack type thing they need to come back. Smaller means less food needed and can fit within the cave like places they live with greater ease.

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, those are really good points!

  • @anthonyoliver418
    @anthonyoliver418 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Something I noticed is that sleeches have visible eyes while fleeches seem like they don’t have any which I think is why they are vulnerable to light as adults but not kids.

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense! Their eyes must be extremely vulnerable especially spending all their time in the dark.

    • @benthomason3307
      @benthomason3307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As a biologist I think it should be the other way around. Cave-dwelling creatures tend to be eyeless, since that organ is useless in a pitch black environment. The fleeches meanwhile live on the surface, where eyes can be used.
      The sleeches wouldn't even need eyes to detect light, either. Earthworms have light-sensitive cells on their skin, as they too flee from the l ight, since their soft, moist bodies make them susceptible to heat and dehydration.

    • @humatrixf9076
      @humatrixf9076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@benthomason3307 maybe the eyes are meant for more than just sight, maybe it’s meant as a method of communication between sleeches in dark environments where they can see each other’s glowing red eyes. And like Pub Benny and Anthony Oliver said maybe the eyes are also incredibly vulnerable to light. Though the development of new organs such as an animal matures is not as far fetched in nature as it sounds, for Beetles their larvae form is mainly a worm with six legs at the front. Not much, but as an adult they develop a tough armored exoskeleton shell, elytra and wings. Plus frogs also grow limbs as they mature so it stands to reason that a Fleech can grow eyes as a result of metamorphosis. But you’re right about eyes being useful in well lit areas.

    • @benthomason3307
      @benthomason3307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@humatrixf9076 I seriously doubt their eyes actually glow, that's more than likely just tacked on by the gam itself for the benefit of the player, same as the wispy tendrils that manifest when they move about.
      Also in reality, if your eyes started glowing, you'd be blinded.

    • @anthonyoliver418
      @anthonyoliver418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just realized since they might develop these eyes later in life, forcing them to go into dark places, that might explain why the fleech guano exists with sleeches, to where the fleeches devoured all those poor mudokens, then went deeper in the caves to where we can’t find them since they are small enough to fit where Abe can’t, maybe eating is how they mature faster, which they don’t exodus since they poop out all of Abe as birds, and that is why the Glukkons flushed them early when they get this taste. Well that, or they just moved somewhere else to most likely devour more. Either option is quite horrifying when you realize how easily they got away with devouring these poor escapees like it was nothing, then they just disappeared with no trace other than their droppings. It could also be their smaller size allows them has advantages like being able to navigate the caves more easily to get prey likes bugs and meetlebats, combined with their better and more natural climbing abilities that don’t require slowly using their tongues, allow them to despite hating light, just as easily be as efficient hunters, if not more so now that they aren’t competing with bigger prey like scrabs. This might make their place in nature like Polar Bears exclusive hunting skills, mixed with Moths trade offs where instead of transforming just to breed, they trade resistance to light and longer tongues for potentially better sight combined with faster movement both foward and upward thanks to their more bouncy and balanced body.

  • @danielmeza6349
    @danielmeza6349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I didn't know there was a render for the Sleeches. That is really cool

  • @rootsnootthnute8598
    @rootsnootthnute8598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The Fleech being a larger larval form of the Sleech is also reflected in insects, like caterpillars and butterflies, where the larva is made primarily for eating lots of food to reshape itself during metamorphosis. I don't know if Fleeches turn into two Sleeches though, I remember hearing something about Fleeches being mutated relatives of Fuzzles, which Sleeches resemble. Perhaps Fuzzles have a cute Caterpillar stage that resembles a Fleech?

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's a really good point, there's actually concept art that I forgot about of early designs of the Fleeches, which a lot of people say looks like Fuzzles, so you're probably onto something there. it'd be interesting to find out if there is a connection.

  • @davidarri9115
    @davidarri9115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Sleeches are Oddworld creatures that have always fascinated me, one of my favorite Oddworld creatures, I would have been happy if they had implemented them in Abe's Exoddus as well. I am happy that YOU made a video about it! 😃

    • @davidarri9115
      @davidarri9115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thedinguskhan9299 " What? Freeze!" 😂

  • @EcoMythos
    @EcoMythos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    My theory: Deadline was approaching. Fleeches were difficult to animate ... dot dot dot.

  • @careless3241
    @careless3241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It says fleechs are made via vyker experiments. Could be sleechs are the original creature. They are kinda similar. Even the name barely changes

  • @Chris-jl6vp
    @Chris-jl6vp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The sleeches are very interesting and their lack of info certainly makes them enigmatic. But Soulstorm, alongside a lot of other elements, has evidently implemented them in a hurry. It's very bizarre just how much thought was put into the sleeches just for them to turn up for one segment, especially if they are supposed to be like vermin animals.

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah I would've loved to have seen more of them. They were a nice break from the onslaught of Sligs.

  • @humatrixf9076
    @humatrixf9076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:15
    Metamorphosis from a larger larva into a smaller adult form, I’m suddenly reminded of the Tremors series with how the first stage, the Graboid, starts out as a small infant worm with deadly speed. Then grows into a massive older version that’s even deadlier, and after the creature, as in the Shrieker, splits open and ejects a smaller creature which is its next stage of its life cycle.

  • @Reddest1000
    @Reddest1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks For Showing Me What They Absolutely Look Like in 3D Pupbenny. They Look Really Creppy

  • @justan324
    @justan324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    very nice video, and with how you put it. the life cycle of Fleeches and Sleeches reminds me of how Graboids turn into Shriekers

  • @hallejr
    @hallejr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I originally thought the sleeches were some sort of rabbit. Man was I wrong.

  • @Scrombo2
    @Scrombo2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BIOLOGY THEORY TIME; Sleeches just straight up eat eachother, much like great white sharks in eutero but, they use all those calories to give themselves some kind of scaly, very defensive hyde

  • @maxblymiller8451
    @maxblymiller8451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is so hype. I love your Oddworld vids

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you very much! :) More to come!

  • @SzaraWilk
    @SzaraWilk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always thought the sleeches use some pair of tentacles to move...

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I initially misread this comment lol. But yeah, they have some kind of tentacles that trail them so it's probably what they use to move like you said.

  • @davidarri9115
    @davidarri9115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love the Sleeches, They are very inspired by the Oddworld universe. When they fall into a trap for example the spiked ball part, they die and red liquid splashes everywhere, it could be that when it happens, their red eyes explode and release all the red liquid they contain, Creepy right? Also, sleeches hate light, probably because they are used to the dark and therefore the light bothers them. (even we humans, when we are in our rooms in the dark and someone turns on the light, it bothers us and we try to hide 😂). Their red eyes could contribute to their hatred of the light. It is also interesting to note that they manage to hide in the walls and get past them! Hey! you just let me find out that the Sleeches have orange tongues, man, thanks! This fuels the fact that there may be a kinship with the Fleeches! Recall that the sick Mud in SoulStorm meets the Fleeches at night, so as the night went by they transformed into Fleeches! I think the Slurgs have something to do with this too, so the evolutionary cycle would be: Slurg- »Fleech-» Sleeches? I do not know! I hope to find them in a future game, they are a really good idea! Okay, you, as always, are fantastic! 👏😊

  • @Iguana5k
    @Iguana5k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sleeches being sensitive to light while their larval stage isnt actually kinda makes sense.
    It keeps the two life stages seperated, meaning they dont compeed with each other.
    You have the fleeches that can gourge themselves in the djungle, growing up with a high success rate. When they reach their final life stage they migrate deep down and use all their energy to reproduce without using up the recourses the young need to grow up, since they migrate off into the djungle again.

  • @ronnato162
    @ronnato162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To me they look related to fuzzles more than fleeches.

  • @LordM46
    @LordM46 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great to have you back Pupbenny, I have missed your vidoes.

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much! :) I'll have more uploaded soon.

  • @leochaichana7649
    @leochaichana7649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To me this may look like a ratz in odd world, but I don’t it quite a while to see Sleeches in the gameplay

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah that's a good point, they're similar!

  • @Chimerathedragon
    @Chimerathedragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Been looking forward to this video

  • @red-man7017
    @red-man7017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Speaking of the fragons eye...
    What is a fragon exactly? Is it some kind oddworld version of dragons?
    Will we see fragons in the future? We dunno

    • @davidarri9115
      @davidarri9115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is almost the same concept as: "Monsaic Lines" Who is this "Monsaic" ? 😂

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking that too haha. Another mystery that will hopefully be answered someday.

  • @Nov-5062
    @Nov-5062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Those models are incredible. I'd be happy if you'll one day show some other models from Soulstorm in one way or another. It could be very cool.

  • @mr.g-sez
    @mr.g-sez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    pupbenny: their natural habitat is pitch black!
    my mind: hm, then they have to be white like an axolotl
    pupbenny: shows a white sleech!
    perfect man, love the video thanks

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha, thanks I'm glad you like it! :)

  • @stephenroche7988
    @stephenroche7988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if they are related to fuzzles

  • @juanisol8275
    @juanisol8275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing close analisis for such ravenous creepers, you know i notice they are to similarr to the early fleeches concept art (like bouncy balls with sharp teeth/toungh and spitting slime) the frog/bug looking could confirm the biology relative with slurgs and some evolutionary process untill the industrial intervention..
    But wait this sleeches have tentacles or some smookey aura? Or maybe they impulse with some propulcion stuff?

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, really good point, I totally forgot about that! It makes a lot of sense that they probably based them on that concept art. It is interesting that the Sleeches resemble Slurgs perhaps more than they do Fleeches. Especially when you concept that if you combine the names 'Slurg' and 'Fleech' together you could make 'Sleech'. I'm not sure entirely *how* they move, but those things seem to be tentacles from what I've read so I assume it's something to do with that.

  • @BlikTuberFictionalIsBased
    @BlikTuberFictionalIsBased 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting creatures

  • @emeraldeelentertainment8988
    @emeraldeelentertainment8988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interestingly, unlike most other hostile non-sapient carnivorous creatures from Oddworld, the sleeches have eyes. Paramites, scrabs, slogs and even fleeches lack any visible eyes.

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah that's a really good point I hadn't thought about! I wonder if there's a reason for that, or maybe it's just a coincidence? It'd be interesting to find out why they designed the Sleeches in particular like that.

  • @maximus4765
    @maximus4765 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They seem a bit like fuzzles, but evil, being round little menaces that bounce around. I wonder who'd win in a fight

  • @Pinkuboi
    @Pinkuboi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I see new pupbenny oddworld lore video and Im not longer in a bad mood.

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ha, thank you very much, I'm glad to hear my videos have this effect and I have more to come soon hopefully, but I hope you're not doing too bad!

    • @Pinkuboi
      @Pinkuboi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pupbenny Im doin fine mate, dw bout me. Just keep makin these awesome vids, it makes a lotta people happy.

  • @BozzLightyr
    @BozzLightyr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:52 the first Mud to discover the medicinal purposes has some explaining to do. Yuck!

  • @terrynasonisasupervillain9017
    @terrynasonisasupervillain9017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Long time no see

  • @madisonatteberry9720
    @madisonatteberry9720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe the orange glow, and how some Sleeches have them, while others don't, is a 'male and female' thing?
    Angler fish for example, the females have that glowing bulb, perhaps there was suppose to be a show of the life cycle of the Fleeches?

  • @walkerfrazer9298
    @walkerfrazer9298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always man! I’ve been waiting for this one. The sleeches are probably smaller then the fleeches because in deep underground areas food is hard to find. So in order for a creator to live down there they must find food and most likely they won’t find much, so that’s probably another reason why there smaller.
    They are also like deep sea fish in that they have bioluminescent eyes. This would probably work to attack smaller pray like bugs. (Or maybe there feeding off of the industrial waste that’s being prudence by the mine. Just a thought)
    However if I were to be honest, when I first saw them I was a little disappointed since I saw the bouncing ball like creature as being a little similar to the Fuzzle. Don’t get me wrong. There very different but I always enjoyed how wildly different all of the creators were, And the Sleeches are just a little too similar for my likings. But that’s just my opinion. I really enjoyed this! Keep up the great work!!

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you very much Walker! Yeah you make really good points, one thing that's quite interesting is there's early concept art for the Fleeches where they look like Fuzzles. Some people have pointed out that maybe that's where they got the idea for the Sleeches from, so you're not the only one to make the comparison, a lot of people think the same. :)

  • @Canal2ESE
    @Canal2ESE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your stuff

  • @llyrseadancer
    @llyrseadancer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perhaps fleeches, upon eating enough metamorphize into the adult form, splitting into the two sleeches, and the action of this is what produces sleech guano, from them eating what's left of the old body or perhaps eating their way out of it from the start?

  • @Henrik.S8
    @Henrik.S8 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reminds me of the Rev units from Terminator Dark Fate. Basically tentacled morphs who impale with their razor sharp tendrils.

  • @benthomason3307
    @benthomason3307 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I was a Viker I would design the fleeches such that each one hatches one male sleech and one female, as that just seems like the sort of insurance measure that evolution would favor.

  • @SmolBroccoli
    @SmolBroccoli 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:14 Lol a reference to the "surprise" line in the Munch's oddysee bad ending

  • @Howtoeatrocks
    @Howtoeatrocks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t really see sleeches and fleeches as the same. Related possibly but if one’s an artificial GMO green pet and the other is part of a rite of passage yk?

  • @oddworldenthusiastnate4084
    @oddworldenthusiastnate4084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PRAISE THE PUB! Consider some more oddworld lore my friend :D

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've got more on the way! ;) Been busy writing them.

  • @iaincampbell6959
    @iaincampbell6959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    looking at the name "Sleech", isn't it obvious that it is a cross between a SLurg and a flEECH?

  • @Einzeilhandery
    @Einzeilhandery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    tbh i think the fleeches are created and inspired by sleeches rather than their "adult" form, or they could simply be a relative species. About the orange silhouette i think the devs intended them to luminate the tongue, however some of them appear not to have it due to bugs, whenever they poke their tongue out the silhouette stayed it last appear for awhile despite the sleeches already move away form the position

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah that's very possible! And yeah the tongues could easily be the opposite of what I suggested that actually the not glowing ones are a bug haha.

    • @Einzeilhandery
      @Einzeilhandery 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pupbenny yeah, also at 6:33 you can sort of see the glow drifted a bit behind them, and few seconds after that at 7:30 when we can see them clearer in the light, the glow looked like a low untextured polygon, i think the developers spawn an orb inside the sleeches and it will follow them everywhere leaving a trail of orange luminated light, but because its not directly sticking into them, they sometime fly away form the sleeches. Pausing at 8:24 the glow is sort of just stay in he air for a second

  • @Eaglesoars8891
    @Eaglesoars8891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man Sleeches are really creepy

  • @Wyvern201
    @Wyvern201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if fleeches split into two sleeches later on in their life cycle? Maybe that'd explain their smaller size and single mouth and stuff.
    Edit: you literally said that near word for word later on in the video, I am dumb.

  • @Z_Belphemon
    @Z_Belphemon ปีที่แล้ว

    sleeches look like the almighty raisen

  • @Trivial_Whim
    @Trivial_Whim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lot of the description of the sleeches at the beginning of this can be summed up as cave albinism, and it feels weird to me that you mention the paradoxical frogs but not albinos when talking about them.

  • @thresholdhatesrevenant2620
    @thresholdhatesrevenant2620 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reminds me of like a more primal fuzzle

  • @thomaskuzma4360
    @thomaskuzma4360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what is withtheir strange line things? do they have tentacles when they move quickly? or is it more that they are speed lines like in a comic book?

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They seem to be tentacles. I tested out this feature in Unity and it seems that when the Sleech model moves, it briefly creates a trail of tentacles but what role they play in the game exactly I'm not sure haha. It's probably meant to be how they move about or something.

  • @suicune3776
    @suicune3776 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was kind of disappointed with the sleeches, honestly. Fleeches were creepy enough, and the slurgs being the larval stage to the fleech would make more sense. You just stepped on their babies, that's why they attack Abe relentlessly, but leave other larger creatures alone unless cornered.
    Though the more I look into it, the fleech being a larval stage seems to be not confirmed canon. There were a few discord texts and that was it. It's possible they might be, but I kind of doubt it.

  • @BozzLightyr
    @BozzLightyr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, pupbenny hope you are well, brotha!

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello, Bozz, thank you I hope you're doing well too! :)

  • @dylanthomas385
    @dylanthomas385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yaa more lore videos

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One about Filthy Hands Floyd will be released in a few days.

  • @trollanlord85
    @trollanlord85 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The thumbnail reminds me of the floating potato cat picture

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ha that's true!

  • @wallybish6046
    @wallybish6046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Idk if you have but you think you'll stream Abe's Exodus or Odyssey?

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've considered it and may do some day. I almost did once actually! The trouble with those old games though is for some reason the streaming software is unable to pick them up, which is why I didn't at the time but there are workarounds to it that I should look into.

    • @wallybish6046
      @wallybish6046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pupbenny ah sick

  • @dylanthomas385
    @dylanthomas385 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Talk about the enemies and characters from strangers rath

  • @clobertina8176
    @clobertina8176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss the fleeches

  • @karateLEMON
    @karateLEMON ปีที่แล้ว

    Sleeches get fleeches 👌

  • @MCPunk55
    @MCPunk55 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which game of the series is being showed here? Soul Storm?

  • @dotfoxtom5942
    @dotfoxtom5942 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is soul storm a good game that, in your opinion lives up to its predecessors?

  • @IsaiahRogan
    @IsaiahRogan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😃 it’s actually good. We have a new species in odd world

  • @soulstorminferno5135
    @soulstorminferno5135 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:08 Good one...

  • @BozzLightyr
    @BozzLightyr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I the only one who thinks their weakness makes them not scary at all. I playthrough holding a flare and they leave me alone.

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah they're quite easy to defeat tbh. xD They're hardly a threat in comparison to the Fleeches.

  • @battybuddy
    @battybuddy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Slogs ate the fleeches. :P

  • @Ninjaheiro
    @Ninjaheiro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Albedo? I thought you meant albino. The whole white with red eyes thing

    • @pupbenny
      @pupbenny  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha yeah I noticed the similarity too! I wondered if the words might have the same origin or something, they're so similar and kind of to do with a similar effect.

  • @MrJof92
    @MrJof92 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thye should have kept the fleeches

  • @btrntsqsh
    @btrntsqsh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I genuinely feel like this game is unfinished.

  • @MisanthropicOcellus
    @MisanthropicOcellus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These are by far the worst creatures in the franchise. They share nothing with their other forms at all. These creatures feel lazy to the point that it interferes with immersion.

  • @TheTSense
    @TheTSense 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pretty sure most of it comes down to bad writing. I consider the whole game non-cannon

  • @bpqd2624
    @bpqd2624 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    444