I’m confused. At the start of the video, you put together a montage of news videos reporting on the numerous attacks in and around the area. Then a clip of Elayna apparently so anxious about the area she’s in tears. Then fast forward to Elayna casually stating that of the 3 possible options, you decide to go through the red zone. Now either, you were just hyping up the danger so that we’d think - wow isn’t Riley such a brave, macho muscle man. OR - you really were just being incredibly stupid? If neither of these is true, I’d love you hear your side of this, as it’s generating such a huge number of pretty strong comments (which I guess was the intention) Cheap tactics and unnecessary given the number of subscribers you have. Think maybe it’s all going to your heads a bit?
I am left not knowing how I feel about this episode and the “risk” of the red zone. In one scene Elayna is supposedly crying and scared and flat said she didn’t want to go there and Riley was filming to show reality. Then Elayne shows the options and says they are taking the red zone. Was it all just acting and dramatic effect? Was it not actually dangerous? Would Riley REALLY put his family in danger? Would Riley REALLY risk being boarded and the horrors that could have taken place, especially to Elayne? I’m struggling to believe he would. But all the comments say the danger was real. If the dangers and risks were real, then shame on them all for choosing the red zone. I am all for getting off the couch and living a full adventurous life but there is a line with just plain stupid on the wrong side of it.
All the comments saying the danger is real are talking out their arse. Several years ago the area was problematic because of piracy and terrorism from the Abu Sayyaf Group, this threat has been seriously downgraded each year since the 2020 as there was a crackdown on the Sulu and Celebes seas. Nothing in these waters is ever "safe" but they definately played it up a bit and all the people in the comments took the bait..."oooo RED ZONE!". No.
First time i thought your pushing your luck to far, even more so with the kids, red zone is danger zone. (unless we are not seeing all the information you have). Just remember your not untouchable. good luick.
@Ian-It6wp - Felt the same when the trimaran was first announced and not the way to go with young kids on board. Speed not a payoff against worry factor. Will domestic help and sailing help now be a permenent factor?
If you watched the video, they have barely touched the edge of the red zone through day sail and anchored in front of coast guard. Not desirable but not as dangerous as it seems
It’s not just your perception of danger Riley, it’s the actual level of danger that you face that is different, and lesser, than Elaynas. Pirates would harm her in ways they wouldn’t harm you. It’s something women have to think about all the time.
Riley, you like to scoff at the warnings about security people give you. It's worked out for you so far. Let's hope you keep getting lucky, because the first time you're wrong, may be your last. I'm not trying to be the scare monger, but I've seen the evil men can do. Just because you scoff at it and put it to the side, doesn't make it any less real. Stay safe out there.
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@@sharimahigab1292 Where there is life, there is risk of death. Sailing itself has risk. Driving to the store has risk. One must weigh the upsides of taking those risks, and also the downsides. The downsides can be be potentially catastrophic. Make sure the upsides are worth dying for or losing someone for, because that could very well be the price. That being said, living in a padded vault where you are safe from everything isn't much of an existence. As you say, maybe the danger is passed. All I'm saying is you may find trouble no matter what you do. There's no need to go looking for it.
I'm a long time fan. When Riley is traveling with his mates, take whatever risks you want. But, when you're with two beautiful women and your lovely children, stay out of red zones. This was a close call and a warning to not tempt fate again. I hope you take this seriously. I want to continue watching your TH-cam channel and NOT see you on the news because of an incident. I was hesitant to post this, but I really care about what happens to you all. Enjoy the adventures and be safe.
Although I've been watching you guys for years I rarely comment, but I must comment now. Ref red zones, they are red zones for a reason. The only people who think they will never be victims, are people who have never been victims. I know Riley is a competent captain, but on this occasion I think he underestimated the possible risk.
Google Gracia Burnham and her husband Martin who were missionaries celebrating their 18th anniversary at an island in the Philippians and were kidnapped by the Abu Sayyaf along with 18 other people for over a year! When Elayna said they were headed into the red zone all I could think of was Gracia Burnham's harrowing tale! Terrifying! Be safe out there Riley and Elayna!!
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I didn`t understand why they even decided to take that route. They could have taken the first option along the coast, they didn`t say why they would rather risk the red zone than going along the coast. Did they not have the time for the longer option?
As a fellow Aussie I to have taken risks all my life..but when it came to my kids who I consider sacrosanct..putting your family in danger is irresponsible parenthood at its best!! To watch this episode was extremely irritating & frustrating at the same time!..with all the prior warnings advising you don’t venture into these waters you both ignored it.. I’ve watched your channel since its inception..but at the minute I’m simply not enjoying watching your insipid judgment calls..if this video is a beat up shame on you both it’s un Australian!!..your better than that?
My first thought, when you said there was a Mayday call while you were in a red zone, was : “It is a trap”. Given the “mayday boat” sailed towards you and then just broke off when it saw you, that is still my best guess. Clearly the Mayday makes no sense coming from a boat that was not in distress. So either it was pirates and you were not the payday they were looking for, or it may have been the coast guard, in disguise, trapping pirates. Glad you are all safe! Love the videos, especially the long format. Stay safe.
I did a bit of digging based on all the comments here, and the anti-piracy monitoring group in the Phillipines has recommended they reduce the alert-level from Moderate to Moderate-Low because there hasn't been an incident of kidnapping in those waters in 1.5+ years due to the combined efforts of Malaysia and the Phillipines watch-groups. Given that information, it was likely an undercover watch-group wondering why their AIS has been turned off and making sure Vagabone wasn't the pirate. A bit of reading up on the situation shows that it's less dangerous than likely thought. Which is fortunate for them!
@@GoogleIsNotYourFriend No one on SLV did the "digging", or if they did, they intentionally misrepresented the situation. You are playing off the comment of another viewer. I doubt that you did any detective work. Your comment is in hindsight, now that they are safe. Whatever the reason for the "red zone", going to foreign places and ignoring official warnings is asking for trouble.
If the woman in your life senses something is wrong or tells you something is too risky, listen to her - she's not messing around. Peace of mind is a gift, especially for a mumma.
@@Mark-td1tg I note sarcasm in your comment. I can’t even count the # of times a man has told me to ‘calm down’ or ‘relax’ because I’m simply angry or am insistent on something. Hysteria; exaggerated or uncontrollable emotion. Men are often angry and push their agenda without receiving that antiquated label & are actually out of control!!
Granted, we only see what you show us. But from this viewers perspective it looked like a boat captain willing to risk the safety of his family and crew for an easier sail and to save time.
No, I worried that he just care for the content he will deliver. Same with some moron in our country who dare to tried to stop the moving truck in their video. Lot of deaths.
@jackiebilor time snorkelling with 1 adult in the dinghy and both small children in the boat. What happens if o e got into trouble? No forethought.der9523
To be honest I can't believe your somewhat lackadaisical attitude to personal safety. Surely you are aware that where you are is NOT a recommended area to take your family into, to say the least. I've lived in that area, from Singapore to Borneo (Brunei/Sarawak/Sabah) to the Philippines, for several years. Watching your sojourn into Palawan waters, I've been fretting, "where the hell does Riley think he is going?" This is NOT an area where you take chances with the safety of your family, especially not when Elayna is obviously "feeling" it. Which is what you are doing. GET OUT OF THERE. Sorry.
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I’m sorry, but I have to agree. The danger out there are real. I’ve seen a lot of other cruisers. Go way way out of their way just to keep safe for their families. I’ve watched you for years. This is one of the only times I think you really underestimated the consequences of your decisions. I won’t say anymore because I see that the majority of the comments are regarding this. Love you guys to pieces. I’m glad that you are all safe. I’m so sorry that Forest is feeling so poorly. I’m hoping He is going to the hospital. Be safe out there. Liz 💜🤟🏻😎🇺🇸🐬⛵️
I don't usually leave comments, but I can't help myself this time. This is my first, and last time watching this channel. You could have chosen option 1, up the coast of Malaysia in safety, and gotten your sick friend to medical attention much sooner. Instead you chose to put your family in danger (absolute insanity) and prolong your friend's suffering. The arrogance and foolishness is unreal. It's all good, until it isn't, and in this case that could have been catastrophic.
You clearly don’t have children you have to send to public school in the USA, do you? Risk and safety are relative. I’d rather take my children, under my protection through a red zone (read the stats for where they’re at - way less than the risk of sending kids to school in the U.S.!) than play roulette with them at school and them growing up with the anxiety of active shooter drills (like my son just had today!) You probably shouldn’t be so quick to judge!
@@sailingtimshel "Active shooter" events are real and horrible, but, they are also massively used by the Left to drum up fear and they are constantly hypersensationalizing them. It is disgusting. We have a mental health crisis and victimhood mentality being created in our society. I grew up in an Era where people had rifles in their truck windows at school to hunt after school was out. People didn't do what they do now...what's the difference?
I'm a Filipina born and raised in Mindanao, and even I would be wary of going into our red zones. These pirates as you call them are terrorists. Take the warnings seriously! I wanted to welcome you to the Ph but it was so frustrating seeing warnings ignored like that.
My Wife always says people who throw edible food away have never known true hunger, I always say people who ignore warnings of danger have never witnessed the depravity of human nature.
I don't know how you (Riley/Elayna) are able to read all the comments on your videos as it seems overwhelming. But I hope you do read the comments for THIS video. I am in agreement with the many, many that I read about the danger you seemed to have embraced on this voyage through the red zone. So many circumstances seemed to have been (in my mind) warning you not to go: 1) Red Zone = Do not enter 2) ALL communication avenues were broken - no chance to signal for help 3) Forest would have been unable to help protect in any hostile encounter 4) Elayna's intuition should have been taken very seriously 5) False MAYDAY calls should have raised the hair on the back of your neck I could go on. I have watched your channel for a few years and mostly enjoy it, but I did not enjoy this one. PLEASE don't take a risk like this again.
I'll offer up the flip side... 1) They were making a stop next to a CG station on the fringe of the "red zone," which is not clearly defined anyway. 2)EPIRB, no? And even if they had comm, VHS isn't going to do much good, and who are you going to call anyhow? 3) No one would have been able to protect them in a hostile (i.e., guns) situation. 4) I think the point of what Reilly said was that he WAS taking Elayna seriously and valuing her input. 5) I think they did just that, no? Not saying you're wrong, but I interpreted things differently. BTW, I'm surprised they don't carry a Garmin InReach as does Wind Hippie does (and I do while grouse hunting out of cell coverage).
@@kevinclark2642disagree with this take. The entire sulu sea is a dangerous area and has been for years. They shouldn’t be there at all imo. There is no chance in hell I’d sail there with a young family. No chance. Riley is a negligent fool…
@@kevinclark2642 I was thinking about it, and yes, it would have been better if they had not gone into the red zone. But Forrest was very ill , no coms, the damage to the boat. The route of an extra 6 days of hard sailing would have added more danger to the boat and certainly to Forrest. It was a tough decision.
This was extremely risky behaviour and hugely negligent. The story reminds me of Richard Philips, the captain who ignored piracy warnings and was a well seasoned captain on dangerous routes and he's ship was hijacked and he was taken hostage by the pirates. Some serious indications of reckless endangerment of children and you can get prosecuted for that. Failure to Heed Warnings: By disregarding maritime warnings indicating the presence of piracy threats in the area and choosing to sail into the red no-go zone, you are knowingly putting the safety and well-being of your family, including your young children, at risk. Lack of Communication Preparation: The failure to ensure proper communication equipment and procedures before embarking on the journey demonstrates a lack of due diligence and responsibility in ensuring the safety of all onboard, particularly the children who are dependent on you for protection. Neglect of Duty of Care: As the captain of the vessel and the responsible adult for the safety of your family and crew, you have a duty of care to take reasonable precautions to avoid foreseeable risks and hazards. Your decision to sail into a known dangerous area without adequate preparation or consideration for the safety implications constitutes a failure to fulfill your duty of care. Potential Consequences: Sailing into a red no-go area with piracy threats increases the likelihood of encountering dangerous situations, including potential piracy attacks or other maritime emergencies. The presence of children onboard further exacerbates the risks, as they may be more vulnerable and less able to respond to or escape from dangerous situations.
Something tells me they know more about what is safe and what is dangerous than a random person on the internet. Talking about them being at risk of prosecution and writing a paragraph about negligence is just cringe.
wow who gave u gods gift lol this dude is well experenced who are u to tell what route he takes u gotta take what is best at the time but u would no tht as ure some captain lol hahah
People in the comments are trying to say something without actually saying it. I'll say it. IT'S ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING to risk your wife being raped by pirates just to save a few days of sailing. Pathetic! You guys did a video where Riley was traumatized by a monkey biting him while protecting his territory, yet Riley is willing to risk Elayna's life? I know he thinks that sailing through pirate waters makes him look tough and brave but it actually makes him look narcissistic and extremely selfish.
You are absolutly right and thank you for your honesty. BUT: Elayna is a grown woman and what I, a mother and grandmother, haven't understood is: Why didn't she leave the boat with her two boys and let Riley go on alone? I would never have given in in this journey and would have left the boat together with my kids. Perhaps then Riley would have understood the importance of the issue. I'm still angry about him, sorry.
just a thought even if you get through all of this this time rylie, I would never put my wife and my kids through that ever ever again sorry but I would not. I’m a woman, and I know for men I know doing these crazy wild things I don’t wanna say you get off on it, but you know it’s not that big a thing, but literally for a woman that’s pregnant gives birth to a baby has all these feelings emotions and crap going on for nine months before they even get them into the world that’s not a good thing
I love this channel but taking that route with 2 women on board and kids was plain stupidity. Don't get arrogant Riley, I know you're a good sailor but you're dealing with terrorists in these waters.
Riley, recently you’ve been getting a tad arrogant in your perception of “getting away with it” you can judge yourself how lucky you were with the monkey incident! Pirates and bad people in general don’t get scared away so easily as monkeys, if you let them get near your family the odds are your going to pay for it badly.
I've been watching since you started filming. I honestly can't reconcile me watching and supporting your channel when you are now essentially a family youtube channel, which I vehemently disagree with, and secondly keep putting yourselves in danger for. I don't want to be part of the problem by feeding you by watching and subscribing. I'm unsubbing and wishing you all the best. Please stop doing reckless shit for views. ❤
Long time fan here and am really glad you made it safely! What's an extra week of travel when the risk is the safety of your family and crew? There is nothing on this earth that should take precedent over the well-being of those in your charge, Riley. The risk is certainly not worth a few days shaved off on your passage. If you'd gone with option one, poor Forest might have been able to get medical care quicker. If that wasn't warning sign enough, perhaps losing communication in one of the more hostile and dangerous parts of the world was? You were incredibly lucky this time. Keep trusting your gut, Elayna and Riley, listen to her! Even if you think it's being overly cautious or ridiculous, there is nothing like peace of mind.
Pushing the odds is never good! If the wrong people were around that day this could have end much worse! Family safety comes first by all means avoid red zones like nothing! Never anchor in redzones, never!!!!!!!
Why take any risk at all with Woman and Children on board? Crazy stuff, very ignorant decision making completely ignoring advice, it's all great until it's not, a very bad message to be putting out "to take your chances"
A good Captain should always have his crew in mind when sailing. Maybe keep everybody in the loop with travel plans, especially if you think it's okay to head into red zones. Family and crew rely on the captain for their lives and safety. I've watched you guys for years and care deeply for everybody, this video hit in a different way.
Riley the red zones are there for a reason, be wise to heed the warnings. You have a family now! Any good Captain would think of his/her crew first before an adventure.
Like many others have a few problems with the last vlog, 1. In all family safety situations Husband and or Father outrank the Captain. 2. Luck or chance are not Risk Elimination or Mitigation processes. More luck does not equal less risk. 3. A Riley Risk Assessment process is straight out of The Little Book of Riley Shortcuts. 4. You are not a Captain, at best you are a competent Skipper and at worst sometimes a Gilligan. A Captain has studied and trained for many years and follows Rules and Procedures not whims. So Little Buddy, go get Mary Ann and the other castaways and spend some time apologising, then sit in the corner, take a big breath and repeat over and over, "l am not a Captain, l am not a Captain, l am not a Capt...." until you pass out. If you are lucky you will regain consciousness and we will see you next ep. C'mon Little Buddy you are better than this, lift ya game.
As someone who lived in this area for a year, I can confirm that you took a real risk sailing through the red zone. This part of the Philippines is classified as a red zone for good reason. There’s a fine line between calculated risks and recklessness. As a foreigner, the only reason I could stay there was due to the protection provided by a very wealthy and powerful family who ensured my security. Even with such protection, it was still risky, and I had to take extra precautions. Without that type of local support, you truly put yourself and your family in danger. There’s a very good reason why foreigners avoid this area, and even many Filipinos are reluctant to travel there despite how beautiful this area is. You were very lucky nothing happened to you. The next sailor might not be so fortunate.
@@GoogleIsNotYourFriend Definitely not a "boy scout", more like a girl scout. And experience means I have an opinion. You can disagree with me as much as you like (or not believe me), I'm really not bothered.
@@nickyzw You aren't bothered? Doesn't surprise me at all. Most of you lot that were happy to jump on them for the "risk" with your "experience"...were very quick to judge yet blissfully full of shit. The threat in the area has persistently been downgraded since the start of the 20s, and while nothing is ever guaranteed, there hasn't been a major incident in awhile...if they were planning to spend there time on Mindanao, then sure, take a bit more caution but even then. It isn't at all like you (and others) have suggested.
@@GoogleIsNotYourFriend I've lived all around the world. In all types of countries and safety conditions. It's all about taking calculated risks in life. I've taken a lot of risks in my life. However, if you have children, you have a responsibility over their lives and going through a red zone is just reckless with a family. Additionally, these are TH-camrs with a lot of clout. Other sailers watch them and follow their example - the next boat won't be so lucky. And for your information, I did live in Mindanao. However, if you know the area at all, you know, warnings are relevant to that whole southern area.
@@nickyzw Exactly why I asked when you lived there...you are talking like it is still half a decade ago. Your intentions might be good, trying to warn people...but you are spreading misinformation. EDIT: Can you provide anything to back up your claim from the last couple of years? At best you'll find some petty theft at docks...
I love you all and so enjoy all your videos. But just my opinion, and it’s an opinion, but why oh why would you ever put you family at risk? Whatever reasons you come up with add the words “this time” to the end. You’re enjoying a life everyone fantasizes over, but putting your family in peril makes zero sense to me. I know if we’re watching these then things are okay…this time!
Opinions are great and all. But better kept to yourself honestly. Live your life and let others live theirs. If you think these two would put their family in danger, you haven’t been watching long.
Statistically from what I can glean; driving to the shopping mall might be a bigger risk. Like they said, they just keep on the move through the zones.
Riley you really need to take a look at yourself . Your EGO is out of control . Why would you take your family anywhere their might be DANGER. It's dangerous enough doing normal sails so much can go wrong . I haven't watched the video yet but from the information from your introduction says enough . I don't know if you're playing up the danger but it's not a game . I've noticed for awhile now that your EGO has been inflated and getting out of control . I'll be praying for you and your family and any passengers you have aboard .
I have been following this channel for years now , but have to say that this does not sit right with me. Something is off here. Would anyone really be so casual with his family`s safety , and post about it ? Something is not right here..
It's what younger people like to call "main character syndrome", kinda like the "oh but it won't happen to me" mentality. There are graveyards full of those types of people. Complacency kills.
Used to be a patreon but picked up a bad vibe in Riley a few months ago and cancelled. Started w that ridiculous family unfriendly boy toy boat. I believe Riley has just enough sailing experience to put himself and his family in terrible risk. Elayna’s an idiot to follow him down this path of self destruction. This is not going to end well.
Can’t watch anymore, couldn’t even finish the video. You’re knowingly putting CHILDREN’S lives at risk. The torture that they would have to go through if pirates boarded your ship is unimaginable. So disappointed.
Pirates will chain every one and torture and sell someone??? I don’t want to think about it ! Please be safe please! People get rich and get more crazy sometimes 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I do think Riley has lost his mind. He buys a boat built for speed, not comfort or safety (for kids) and then he, as the captain, moves everyone into an unsafe area. I have been watching these guys for years, and it used to be SO much better. They had more fun, it was more fun to watch. Now they just seem stressed and uncomfortable.
I fear one day reading a headline about your family meeting an unfortunate end because sailing is risky. My grandparents were sailers and lost friends that had been sailing for decades. But it’s the life you choose and that’s great but to knowingly ADD to that danger in such a horrible potentially violent way I cannot fathom.
Did you know that your previous boat (catamaran) was nicer? Somehow it was better and more enjoyable to watch you on that boat. And I think it was safer for children.
F@ck I love u guys but why even try to risk this sh!t with ur kids onboard sure luck now but what if! It’s a red zone for a reason I’m quite pissed that u done that but I’m also glad ur ok
Im hoping the danger was dramatized for the sake of viewership. If not, this seems like a pretty profound error in judgement. Perhaps trying to seem care-free with a sleep-in and casual fishing adventure in such a place was a part of an attempt to bring levity to this episode. However, it comes across as negligent and entitled. I am typically a big supporter of all the astounding, unparalleled, and inspiring work ya’ll do. But this story-crafting begs either clarification for the audience, or reflection for future voyages.
I'm not so nice, that was the stupidest, most selfish thing I have seen in .y time. You have no business having friends, your wife & especially those two little kids & put them in a dangerous situation like that. You have no business operating a boat with passengers. Good god scared me watching this video.
If you are gambling and find yourself at a pokier table, and you haven't identified who is the fish, guess what? It's you. 8 Signs you are the fish out of water. 1) you have damaged your own hull. 2) You are without comms 3)Your crew is sick 4)The military tells you "you're an idiot" 5) You are voluntarily sailing into the middle of a pirate red zone 7)You can't identify your kill 8)You're complaining about bad luck.
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@@sharimahigab1292Smart Traveler dot gov dot au: "The threat of kidnapping and piracy in the southern Philippines is high, especially in the area of the Sulu Archipelago. If you travel to the southern Philippines despite our advice, get professional security advice. Ensure your accommodation has proper security measures. Don't travel by boat."
I have been saying this since they purchased this new boat. Taking aside the huge red zone danger that boat is NOT suitable or safe for a family and two toddlers. These are two parents that are concerned about themselves and their appearance first and foremost. I’m sorry to say this but it’s only a matter of time before something bad happens. Very bad.
I just watched this episode (I'm behind a few episodes). I have been following your channel from the beginning. This is the first time I clicked on "disliked". Pirates are not Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean, they are terrorist. The fisherman that came to your boat and you gave food to him, could have been a scout. He could have been checking out your boat to see who's on it. With Forest being sick, 2 women, 2 kids on board, things could have turned out different. You guys have been enjoying you sailing around the world, it only takes one bad event to happen and it will all come tumbling down. I still enjoy your channel and will still watch, safe travels. Number one priority is keep your family safe.
It’s unbelievable the risks they put others and their kids through. The “it will never happen to me” attitude is great until it does happen to you. Speaking from experience here. Seven days to take the slow safe route seems like the only option worth considering.
Some might say the same about off grid living in Idaho. You would think one adventurer would respect another. You have no idea of their security precautions. They get more life in before noon than many of us do in a year. I think they discussed among each other and made the right decision for themselves and since we're seeing the video it would appear that they somehow made it through the red zone where one piracy event has been recorded since 2020. How a viewer thousands of miles thinks they know best is beyond me.
@JEB Your comparing the risk they just took, ignoring warnings to save a little time essentially, with the horrific things these pirates do to people. Women in front of their partners and the lives their kids would have if taken in the hands of monsters to Off grid living in Idaho?…
@@Rebeka1589 there has been far more murders and car accidents in any state than piracy in that sea in the past 4 years if you care to look. Forrest was sick and likely had a timeline to keep for his own plans. Not so easy add a week to travel when international plans are involved. Everyone acting as if the evil men are just waiting to pounce on anyone who crosses an imaginary red line is a bit silly. They discussed it, they made a plan, they love their family and they made their choice.
@@JEB.. Have you ever been on a boat? Most countries do not allow weapons (no guns). Some countries make you even turn in your spear fishing equipment and you can get it when you check out of the country. The build of the boat is flimsy, the "doors" are very easily opened. So, a homesteader in Idaho probably has multiple guns for protection, along with dogs to warn approaching dangers. They are completely vulnerable to dangers and if their boat becomes damaged or unable to sail or motor, they are stuck in a dangerous area. You cannot compare the safety of a home verses a boat.
@@lilygirl2719 yes. The point is not there is no danger, but relative to their normal day it was not much of a change. No place and no one is "safe". Live and let live is my point. Smart sailors have undisclosed personal security options, by the way.
We sail in Asia for almost a decade. For me you had only one option: the safe route. Even considering the alternatives doesn’t make sense. Those potential attackers come from such a different world, unless you live there you have no idea about their aggression. They have nothing to lose and in their eyes all foreigners are extremely wealthy. Mob or mayday is often used by fishermen on island to guide their ships into the mangrove. You’ll find it all over Indonesia and Malaysia. It’s tricky in a no go zone. Best to stay away.
Really not cool that you ignored the safety warnings. Not only are you putting your family and crew in danger, but you are also potentially risking the lives of the soldiers that might have to attempt to save you. Any ransom paid would also provide funding for more kidnappings and other criminal activities.
I was actually veeeery surprised by your choice of passage. Riley used to be very protective and responsible, but this seems to be an unnecessary risk to take. Not just because of the kids, but you also have two crew. Imagine something happens to anyone on board ... you will never ever forgive yourself having chosen this path because in the end it only saved you a day or two. I'm glad it worked out, but shit happens ... 😕
Long time viewer 1st time commentator. I have read the most of the recent comments. Keyboard woke warriors who have never left their own country should be blocked from the comments. Your boys will thank you in the future for the unreal life experiences that you guys have given them. True adventure has its risks. Keep pushing the boundaries guys.
Ja memories of a father that puts his family in great danger in a red zone and no communication to the outside world his kids will love that one when they get older and see that.
Like everyone has said, this was unbelievably reckless… and I have to say, the editing of the news clips to emphasise the danger felt like a weirdly emotionally exploitative decision. To put your family and crew at risk and then exploit the situation for views is a really out of touch move. It’s just disappointing as a longstanding fan of the channel to see this.
I felt the same back then when they were sailing anywhere while the entire world was confined. I remember they got kicked out from Culatra 5:36 Island and they portrayed it as we are not welcome… the entitlement they portray their hippy happy lifestyle ignoring the reality with no realism. It’s all about them and their life. I have very mixed emotions about these two. They are an inspiration but at other levels they act a bit too naive, unrealistically. 5:11
Yeah. So many content creators that used to se so genuine and authentic, have become all about selling you some BS. Literally. Exploiting their audience's trust in them. Better help, VPNs, game, earbuds, ag1, etc are all filled with half-truths and straight up lies in these ads the content creators make
First time i disliked one of your videos and i've been watching for ages ... maybe it's because i have a small kid or it's just because i don't expect this kind of "dangerous" content from you guys. I mean you made videos in which you guys did something crazy or dangerous and it was ok but this ... just no. instant dislike. i hope this won't be a normal decision making from now on. Ok nothing happened and i don't know anything about the area and i didn't research it so maybe it wasn't even that big of a thing but you guys made it look like it was really dangerous and if it really was then ... what a stupid video. What was the decision making? You guys wanted to create some drama to spice it up? C'mon ... you both are pretty creative people and you surely know this wasn't good drama ... more like "tabloid" drama. Hope you won't take this comment in the wrong way. it's just an opinion and even if we don't agree we can still be friends :D
Hmmm…if it was just you guys, I could understand taking the risk a “little bit”, but you have two precious babies YOU are making dangerous decisions for, not cool.
@@sharimahigab1292no, it's not. The Australian government's official travel site has a red level warning "The threat of kidnapping and piracy in the southern Philippines is high, especially in the area of the Sulu Archipelago. If you travel to the southern Philippines despite our advice, get professional security advice. Ensure your accommodation has proper security measures. Don't travel by boat."
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Fantastic episode and brilliant watching but red zone is surely not the way to protect your awesome family. If an area is red zone for pirates then that should be a no go area…. Even if it took an extra two days to travel the distance__
Ok are you just being drama? Because there is no way I would want to believe you Riley would put your family in that type of danger. Unless you have ample amount of arsenal. Just saying! Views maybe? Hoping🧜🏼
was sad to see the great risk you took on this one, you guys have sailed all over the world and will continue to do so, missing out on this one area would mean nothing compared to the risk you took. we love watching your adventures but want you to all put your safety first!
Yikes, when you said you were going to take your chances in the red zone, thats the first time watching you guys in all these years I've really winced. Obviously you are fine but man thats a huge risk especially with kids to save a few days.... Glad it went OK for you though and you didn't end up being another statistic.
I know things are calmer there but you're boat screams Western wealth and you have two small kids. I love you guys but I think this is a step too far to undertake with the children on board.
“Western wealth” Please. Back up and see where these guys originated. Elena was playing guitar for coins in the cap and Riley was a hand on an oil rig. They spent half a dozen years at sea on small boats learning to how make content people wanted to see. They inherited nothing from the “west”, except possibly work ethic and spirit. They made every dime.
As a parent its very hard to watch you put your kids at risk AGAIN, you must be really addicted to the fame or the adrenaline, likely both cause you justified the decisions like it was no big deal or you edited like that.
Why would you put your family at risk to go someplace that is that dangerous!!! I would say you're not being very smart with your 2 children on board as well. I have thought for some time that your boat is very beautiful, but not proper for small children to live on board. just felt this was the time to share my thoughts!! I don't mean to be harsh, but it appears dangerous.
I’m sorry you guys I don’t really understand with two women but especially two little boys why are you guys there? I don’t really understand. I wish you would explain it better I mean not that it’s any of my business but I love watching you guys, but this is scaring me poor Elena, the other girl and the boys well for all of you if they have guns.
You know when she said “I think we are going to take our chances” I would actually list out what the actual chances are. You can list what the news have stated and what the families of the victims have said. Is this worth those chances .. I understand a crew member was sick which was heartbreaking but he had better chances of surviving that for a few more days then pirates. Last thing I would ask myself would I truly be taking this risk if no one else ever found out we made this voyage.
Filipinos all over the world are watching you describe their homeland. This could bring you subscribers if you play your cards right. But you must mix with locals. Gone with the wynns are doing great. But you slam or complain of someone staring at you cuz you’re wearing a thong… ( when it’s a conservative Catholic country) don’t be surprised. So it’s up to you. There is more to a country than just your new boat.
Longtime viewer here. First time I get angry with Riley. When a woman says I don’t wanna go there, listen to her. It’s a red zone for a reason. You can take a risk on your own but never put others in danger. Stay safe and don’t do that again. My heart is not the youngest one anymore 😉
Glad you guys made it safe through the Sulu Sea! Just a word of caution to other sailors though, that the red zones in the Philippines should be taken seriously. I am a filipino and have done scuba dive excursions in the Sulu Sea and the Abu Sayyaf Group are really dangerous. They have been linked as being partners with other Terrorist organizations like ISIS. With that being said, Mabuhay and welcome to my beautiful country. If you have the opportunity to sail to Tubbataha Reef (this is still in the SULU sea), I do recommend you do so, as it is a UNESCO world heritage site and has the most insane marine biodiversity. Additionally, If you go to Coron (an area in Palawan) You can also free dive and scuba dive the Japanese World War 2 Shipwrecks that have corals growing on and around them. Have a fantastic trip. Looking forward to see all the Philippine content :)
@@gregorymatthies5297 im pretty sure its paid, and its not like forest was forced to do this. he loves adventures and this is a great chance to show his skills to a wider audience + forest is not new to the channel he has been in many other episodes so stop being such a hater!
Riley, you scoff at the innate danger women have to face every day. I’d encourage you to have more consideration for your wife and kids as you make decisions such as these. Good video though!
Sharing your food with that fisherman was a wonderful and caring thig to do. So proud of you Aussies. Lenny's boating skills get better every day. I cringed just a little when one of the kids tried to turn Riley into a Eunuch.
I’m confused, Elyana expressed concerned, you seem to agree Rylie. But then you still took that course. I’ve been watching many years, but this seemed very irresponsible
You are living a dream life, but I think your boys are going to have a difficult time adjusting to any other way to live. Not that that is bad, just different. Lenny and Darwin have seen more of the world already than most adults. Do you ever wonder what they are going to want to do when they are grown up?
Came down to read the comments...never do that...but it's good to see that others are thinking exactly what I was. Congrats on the attention though...this shld definitely direct the algorithm to give attention to the channel. Guess it doesn't matter how bad the attention is at this point, as long as you have those views and comments down below. Sorry on the big fail with this guys, we are all invested and hate to see do you something silly and unnecessary.
Ya, well deserved flak youre getting honestly. How dare you risk your children. Pathetic. Shame on you. 7 days or a lifetime of grief....damn dude....huge yikes.
If it was only you two then take the risk. It’s not only you two, so you should be more responsible with your decisions. Of course, nothing could go wrong but when it does go wrong, you’ll wish you made a better decision. I’m sure the percentage of nothing going wrong is very high, but the warnings are there for a reason. Without kids, I would be completely beyond board with trying something like that, but I have an adventure is nature. But if my child was on board, there’s no way. Good luck!🍀
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She must really like you or think her options are low....you would place your family at risk for a video....in the US we have a different term, but it's a new time.....I am betting this will not end well....first the stick shifty (trimaran, come on) and dangerous endeavors....but hey, you had a nice run....didn't have to end this way, but ....
I would never take my family into a known red zone. The danger is not worth any time saved . The reported horrors that have happened to others should be enough to keep anyone away from there.
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I’m confused. At the start of the video, you put together a montage of news videos reporting on the numerous attacks in and around the area. Then a clip of Elayna apparently so anxious about the area she’s in tears. Then fast forward to Elayna casually stating that of the 3 possible options, you decide to go through the red zone.
Now either, you were just hyping up the danger so that we’d think - wow isn’t Riley such a brave, macho muscle man. OR - you really were just being incredibly stupid?
If neither of these is true, I’d love you hear your side of this, as it’s generating such a huge number of pretty strong comments (which I guess was the intention) Cheap tactics and unnecessary given the number of subscribers you have.
Think maybe it’s all going to your heads a bit?
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I am left not knowing how I feel about this episode and the “risk” of the red zone. In one scene Elayna is supposedly crying and scared and flat said she didn’t want to go there and Riley was filming to show reality. Then Elayne shows the options and says they are taking the red zone. Was it all just acting and dramatic effect? Was it not actually dangerous? Would Riley REALLY put his family in danger? Would Riley REALLY risk being boarded and the horrors that could have taken place, especially to Elayne? I’m struggling to believe he would. But all the comments say the danger was real. If the dangers and risks were real, then shame on them all for choosing the red zone. I am all for getting off the couch and living a full adventurous life but there is a line with just plain stupid on the wrong side of it.
All the comments saying the danger is real are talking out their arse. Several years ago the area was problematic because of piracy and terrorism from the Abu Sayyaf Group, this threat has been seriously downgraded each year since the 2020 as there was a crackdown on the Sulu and Celebes seas.
Nothing in these waters is ever "safe" but they definately played it up a bit and all the people in the comments took the bait..."oooo RED ZONE!". No.
Well said!
First time i thought your pushing your luck to far, even more so with the kids, red zone is danger zone. (unless we are not seeing all the information you have). Just remember your not untouchable. good luick.
Totally agree!
@Ian-It6wp - Felt the same when the trimaran was first announced and not the way to go with young kids on board. Speed not a payoff against worry factor.
Will domestic help and sailing help now be a permenent factor?
If you watched the video, they have barely touched the edge of the red zone through day sail and anchored in front of coast guard. Not desirable but not as dangerous as it seems
@@dune_tech I did watch the Video thank you still to dodgy.
First time? You haven’t seen the video where Riley decided to fight monkeys instead of protecting his child?
It’s not just your perception of danger Riley, it’s the actual level of danger that you face that is different, and lesser, than Elaynas. Pirates would harm her in ways they wouldn’t harm you. It’s something women have to think about all the time.
Well said.
Remember the couple that were recently murdered and thrown overboard in the Bahamas. It happens.
Would Riley think different if he had 2 little girls?
Absoluteoy 😢@@wally2786
Beautifully said.
Riley, you like to scoff at the warnings about security people give you. It's worked out for you so far. Let's hope you keep getting lucky, because the first time you're wrong, may be your last. I'm not trying to be the scare monger, but I've seen the evil men can do. Just because you scoff at it and put it to the side, doesn't make it any less real. Stay safe out there.
As a USMC I completely agree with your advice. Never trust in the goodwill of strangers in a small group. Unless you overpower them.
Yes because for women: there are worse things than death that could happen.
Riley, get your family and yourself out of that area ASAP.
Things that can go wrong outside of your control are NOTworth the risk!
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@@sharimahigab1292 Where there is life, there is risk of death. Sailing itself has risk. Driving to the store has risk. One must weigh the upsides of taking those risks, and also the downsides. The downsides can be be potentially catastrophic. Make sure the upsides are worth dying for or losing someone for, because that could very well be the price.
That being said, living in a padded vault where you are safe from everything isn't much of an existence. As you say, maybe the danger is passed. All I'm saying is you may find trouble no matter what you do. There's no need to go looking for it.
I'm a long time fan. When Riley is traveling with his mates, take whatever risks you want. But, when you're with two beautiful women and your lovely children, stay out of red zones. This was a close call and a warning to not tempt fate again. I hope you take this seriously. I want to continue watching your TH-cam channel and NOT see you on the news because of an incident. I was hesitant to post this, but I really care about what happens to you all. Enjoy the adventures and be safe.
Riley has been lucky many times. It seems like he's challenging fate, risking other lives too. 🤨
Although I've been watching you guys for years I rarely comment, but I must comment now. Ref red zones, they are red zones for a reason. The only people who think they will never be victims, are people who have never been victims. I know Riley is a competent captain, but on this occasion I think he underestimated the possible risk.
Sometimes, just one day is enough.
Google Gracia Burnham and her husband Martin who were missionaries celebrating their 18th anniversary at an island in the Philippians and were kidnapped by the Abu Sayyaf along with 18 other people for over a year!
When Elayna said they were headed into the red zone all I could think of was Gracia Burnham's harrowing tale! Terrifying!
Be safe out there Riley and Elayna!!
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Riley is very far from a competent captain.
I didn`t understand why they even decided to take that route. They could have taken the first option along the coast, they didn`t say why they would rather risk the red zone than going along the coast. Did they not have the time for the longer option?
As a fellow Aussie I to have taken risks all my life..but when it came to my kids who I consider sacrosanct..putting your family in danger is irresponsible parenthood at its best!!
To watch this episode was extremely irritating & frustrating at the same time!..with all the prior warnings advising you don’t venture into these waters you both ignored it..
I’ve watched your channel since its inception..but at the minute I’m simply not enjoying watching your insipid judgment calls..if this video is a beat up shame on you both it’s un Australian!!..your better than that?
My first thought, when you said there was a Mayday call while you were in a red zone, was : “It is a trap”. Given the “mayday boat” sailed towards you and then just broke off when it saw you, that is still my best guess. Clearly the Mayday makes no sense coming from a boat that was not in distress. So either it was pirates and you were not the payday they were looking for, or it may have been the coast guard, in disguise, trapping pirates. Glad you are all safe! Love the videos, especially the long format. Stay safe.
I had the exact same thought! It's a trap!
I did a bit of digging based on all the comments here, and the anti-piracy monitoring group in the Phillipines has recommended they reduce the alert-level from Moderate to Moderate-Low because there hasn't been an incident of kidnapping in those waters in 1.5+ years due to the combined efforts of Malaysia and the Phillipines watch-groups. Given that information, it was likely an undercover watch-group wondering why their AIS has been turned off and making sure Vagabone wasn't the pirate. A bit of reading up on the situation shows that it's less dangerous than likely thought. Which is fortunate for them!
Or secondary ship that isn't a pirate but will tip off pirates for a % payment. that would've been my guess
@@valarya So nice to see someone that can "dig" alittle...all these comments carrying on about the dangerous are proper gullible fools.
@@GoogleIsNotYourFriend No one on SLV did the "digging", or if they did, they intentionally misrepresented the situation. You are playing off the comment of another viewer. I doubt that you did any detective work. Your comment is in hindsight, now that they are safe. Whatever the reason for the "red zone", going to foreign places and ignoring official warnings is asking for trouble.
If the woman in your life senses something is wrong or tells you something is too risky, listen to her - she's not messing around. Peace of mind is a gift, especially for a mumma.
Women's intuition...it's real.
@@aleta5873 So is Men's common sense.
Yeah, it's not like they are prone to hysteria.
This was terrifying. 😊
@@Mark-td1tg I note sarcasm in your comment. I can’t even count the # of times a man has told me to ‘calm down’ or ‘relax’ because I’m simply angry or am insistent on something. Hysteria; exaggerated or uncontrollable emotion. Men are often angry and push their agenda without receiving that antiquated label & are actually out of control!!
Genuinely mean this-it’s time for some humility and a little less self-absorption.
Granted, we only see what you show us. But from this viewers perspective it looked like a boat captain willing to risk the safety of his family and crew for an easier sail and to save time.
No, I worried that he just care for the content he will deliver.
Same with some moron in our country who dare to tried to stop the moving truck in their video.
Lot of deaths.
I lost respect for them when they swam with sharks while having kids
@jackiebilor time snorkelling with 1 adult in the dinghy and both small children in the boat. What happens if o e got into trouble? No forethought.der9523
To be honest I can't believe your somewhat lackadaisical attitude to personal safety. Surely you are aware that where you are is NOT a recommended area to take your family into, to say the least. I've lived in that area, from Singapore to Borneo (Brunei/Sarawak/Sabah) to the Philippines, for several years. Watching your sojourn into Palawan waters, I've been fretting, "where the hell does Riley think he is going?" This is NOT an area where you take chances with the safety of your family, especially not when Elayna is obviously "feeling" it. Which is what you are doing. GET OUT OF THERE. Sorry.
So they were totally reckless.
Looks like you live in Michigan
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Dramatic effect?
I’m sorry, but I have to agree. The danger out there are real. I’ve seen a lot of other cruisers. Go way way out of their way just to keep safe for their families. I’ve watched you for years. This is one of the only times I think you really underestimated the consequences of your decisions. I won’t say anymore because I see that the majority of the comments are regarding this. Love you guys to pieces. I’m glad that you are all safe. I’m so sorry that Forest is feeling so poorly. I’m hoping He is going to the hospital. Be safe out there. Liz 💜🤟🏻😎🇺🇸🐬⛵️
I don't usually leave comments, but I can't help myself this time. This is my first, and last time watching this channel. You could have chosen option 1, up the coast of Malaysia in safety, and gotten your sick friend to medical attention much sooner. Instead you chose to put your family in danger (absolute insanity) and prolong your friend's suffering. The arrogance and foolishness is unreal. It's all good, until it isn't, and in this case that could have been catastrophic.
7 days SAFELY would have seemed so simple compared to NEVER arriving. I'm so disturbed by the reckless choices made here. I am glad you are safe now.
relax Karen
You clearly don’t have children you have to send to public school in the USA, do you? Risk and safety are relative. I’d rather take my children, under my protection through a red zone (read the stats for where they’re at - way less than the risk of sending kids to school in the U.S.!) than play roulette with them at school and them growing up with the anxiety of active shooter drills (like my son just had today!) You probably shouldn’t be so quick to judge!
@@sailingtimshel "Active shooter" events are real and horrible, but, they are also massively used by the Left to drum up fear and they are constantly hypersensationalizing them. It is disgusting. We have a mental health crisis and victimhood mentality being created in our society. I grew up in an Era where people had rifles in their truck windows at school to hunt after school was out. People didn't do what they do now...what's the difference?
@@sailingtimshel No, mine's grown but I am a teacher.
I'm a Filipina born and raised in Mindanao, and even I would be wary of going into our red zones. These pirates as you call them are terrorists. Take the warnings seriously! I wanted to welcome you to the Ph but it was so frustrating seeing warnings ignored like that.
What political change are they seeking with their terrorism? Or what are their stated political goals?
Lenny did so good with the camera filming, great job little buddy!
My Wife always says people who throw edible food away have never known true hunger, I always say people who ignore warnings of danger have never witnessed the depravity of human nature.
Just don't be soft and you'll be grand. 👍
I WOULD Have TAKEN OPTION # 1. NO QUESTION!!!! WOULD NEVER TAKE THAT RISK!
Yeah, they didn`t explain why they didn`t just take option 1, sounded like the logical option to me.
I don't know how you (Riley/Elayna) are able to read all the comments on your videos as it seems overwhelming. But I hope you do read the comments for THIS video. I am in agreement with the many, many that I read about the danger you seemed to have embraced on this voyage through the red zone. So many circumstances seemed to have been (in my mind) warning you not to go:
1) Red Zone = Do not enter
2) ALL communication avenues were broken - no chance to signal for help
3) Forest would have been unable to help protect in any hostile encounter
4) Elayna's intuition should have been taken very seriously
5) False MAYDAY calls should have raised the hair on the back of your neck
I could go on. I have watched your channel for a few years and mostly enjoy it, but I did not enjoy this one. PLEASE don't take a risk like this again.
I'll offer up the flip side...
1) They were making a stop next to a CG station on the fringe of the "red zone," which is not clearly defined anyway.
2)EPIRB, no? And even if they had comm, VHS isn't going to do much good, and who are you going to call anyhow?
3) No one would have been able to protect them in a hostile (i.e., guns) situation.
4) I think the point of what Reilly said was that he WAS taking Elayna seriously and valuing her input.
5) I think they did just that, no?
Not saying you're wrong, but I interpreted things differently. BTW, I'm surprised they don't carry a Garmin InReach as does Wind Hippie does (and I do while grouse hunting out of cell coverage).
@@kevinclark2642disagree with this take. The entire sulu sea is a dangerous area and has been for years. They shouldn’t be there at all imo. There is no chance in hell I’d sail there with a young family. No chance. Riley is a negligent fool…
@@kevinclark2642 I was thinking about it, and yes, it would have been better if they had not gone into the red zone. But Forrest was very ill , no coms, the damage to the boat. The route of an extra 6 days of hard sailing would have added more danger to the boat and certainly to Forrest. It was a tough decision.
Disagree, taking their boat to the Sulu Sea was a bad choice.
This was extremely risky behaviour and hugely negligent. The story reminds me of Richard Philips, the captain who ignored piracy warnings and was a well seasoned captain on dangerous routes and he's ship was hijacked and he was taken hostage by the pirates.
Some serious indications of reckless endangerment of children and you can get prosecuted for that.
Failure to Heed Warnings: By disregarding maritime warnings indicating the presence of piracy threats in the area and choosing to sail into the red no-go zone, you are knowingly putting the safety and well-being of your family, including your young children, at risk.
Lack of Communication Preparation: The failure to ensure proper communication equipment and procedures before embarking on the journey demonstrates a lack of due diligence and responsibility in ensuring the safety of all onboard, particularly the children who are dependent on you for protection.
Neglect of Duty of Care: As the captain of the vessel and the responsible adult for the safety of your family and crew, you have a duty of care to take reasonable precautions to avoid foreseeable risks and hazards. Your decision to sail into a known dangerous area without adequate preparation or consideration for the safety implications constitutes a failure to fulfill your duty of care.
Potential Consequences: Sailing into a red no-go area with piracy threats increases the likelihood of encountering dangerous situations, including potential piracy attacks or other maritime emergencies. The presence of children onboard further exacerbates the risks, as they may be more vulnerable and less able to respond to or escape from dangerous situations.
Something tells me they know more about what is safe and what is dangerous than a random person on the internet. Talking about them being at risk of prosecution and writing a paragraph about negligence is just cringe.
wow who gave u gods gift lol this dude is well experenced who are u to tell what route he takes u gotta take what is best at the time but u would no tht as ure some captain lol hahah
People in the comments are trying to say something without actually saying it. I'll say it. IT'S ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING to risk your wife being raped by pirates just to save a few days of sailing. Pathetic! You guys did a video where Riley was traumatized by a monkey biting him while protecting his territory, yet Riley is willing to risk Elayna's life? I know he thinks that sailing through pirate waters makes him look tough and brave but it actually makes him look narcissistic and extremely selfish.
The pirates would do much worse to the children.
You are absolutly right and thank you for your honesty. BUT: Elayna is a grown woman and what I, a mother and grandmother, haven't understood is: Why didn't she leave the boat with her two boys and let Riley go on alone?
I would never have given in in this journey and would have left the boat together with my kids. Perhaps then Riley would have understood the importance of the issue. I'm still angry about him, sorry.
just a thought even if you get through all of this this time rylie, I would never put my wife and my kids through that ever ever again sorry but I would not. I’m a woman, and I know for men I know doing these crazy wild things I don’t wanna say you get off on it, but you know it’s not that big a thing, but literally for a woman that’s pregnant gives birth to a baby has all these feelings emotions and crap going on for nine months before they even get them into the world that’s not a good thing
Sorry, I’m out too. I’ll come back when things improve. Not logical or appropriate behaviour when you have a family to look after
I love this channel but taking that route with 2 women on board and kids was plain stupidity. Don't get arrogant Riley, I know you're a good sailor but you're dealing with terrorists in these waters.
Sailing into a 'red zone' with a 70 ft mast (like a big come get me flag that can be seen for miles) would not be something I would ever do.
Have loved following you for years but with this decision you made, I just cannot watch you anymore. All the best guys xxxx
Top comment but you couple years late as I see it.
This is horribly irresponsible. There was a sailor kidnapped and beheading in the same waters in just 2017
Riley, recently you’ve been getting a tad arrogant in your perception of “getting away with it” you can judge yourself how lucky you were with the monkey incident!
Pirates and bad people in general don’t get scared away so easily as monkeys, if you let them get near your family the odds are your going to pay for it badly.
I've been watching since you started filming. I honestly can't reconcile me watching and supporting your channel when you are now essentially a family youtube channel, which I vehemently disagree with, and secondly keep putting yourselves in danger for. I don't want to be part of the problem by feeding you by watching and subscribing.
I'm unsubbing and wishing you all the best. Please stop doing reckless shit for views. ❤
We lost all communication and still went into pirate territory with the safety of two small kids and a crew to consider (even though we didnt have to)
Long time fan here and am really glad you made it safely! What's an extra week of travel when the risk is the safety of your family and crew? There is nothing on this earth that should take precedent over the well-being of those in your charge, Riley. The risk is certainly not worth a few days shaved off on your passage.
If you'd gone with option one, poor Forest might have been able to get medical care quicker. If that wasn't warning sign enough, perhaps losing communication in one of the more hostile and dangerous parts of the world was?
You were incredibly lucky this time.
Keep trusting your gut, Elayna and Riley, listen to her! Even if you think it's being overly cautious or ridiculous, there is nothing like peace of mind.
Just reckless behaviour which is what Reiley does all the time.
Pushing the odds is never good! If the wrong people were around that day this could have end much worse! Family safety comes first by all means avoid red zones like nothing! Never anchor in redzones, never!!!!!!!
Why take any risk at all with Woman and Children on board? Crazy stuff, very ignorant decision making completely ignoring advice, it's all great until it's not, a very bad message to be putting out "to take your chances"
A good Captain should always have his crew in mind when sailing. Maybe keep everybody in the loop with travel plans, especially if you think it's okay to head into red zones. Family and crew rely on the captain for their lives and safety. I've watched you guys for years and care deeply for everybody, this video hit in a different way.
I agree 🤍
He did, they spoke about it and all made the decision. As Eliana said, we are leaning towards the 3rd option.
Riley the red zones are there for a reason, be wise to heed the warnings. You have a family now! Any good Captain would think of his/her crew first before an adventure.
Apparently what the Captain wants, the Captain gets.
Dangerous to others isn't his first concern.
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Like many others have a few problems with the last vlog,
1. In all family safety situations Husband and or Father outrank the Captain.
2. Luck or chance are not Risk Elimination or Mitigation processes.
More luck does not equal less risk.
3. A Riley Risk Assessment process is straight out of The Little Book of Riley Shortcuts.
4. You are not a Captain, at best you are a competent Skipper and at worst sometimes a Gilligan.
A Captain has studied and trained for many years and follows Rules and Procedures not whims.
So Little Buddy, go get Mary Ann and the other castaways and spend some time apologising, then sit in the corner, take a big breath and repeat over and over, "l am not a Captain, l am not a Captain, l am not a Capt...." until you pass out. If you are lucky you will regain consciousness and we will see you next ep.
C'mon Little Buddy you are better than this, lift ya game.
As someone who lived in this area for a year, I can confirm that you took a real risk sailing through the red zone. This part of the Philippines is classified as a red zone for good reason. There’s a fine line between calculated risks and recklessness. As a foreigner, the only reason I could stay there was due to the protection provided by a very wealthy and powerful family who ensured my security. Even with such protection, it was still risky, and I had to take extra precautions. Without that type of local support, you truly put yourself and your family in danger. There’s a very good reason why foreigners avoid this area, and even many Filipinos are reluctant to travel there despite how beautiful this area is. You were very lucky nothing happened to you. The next sailor might not be so fortunate.
When did you live there? Because like all the other boy scouts in the comment section...you sound full of it.
@@GoogleIsNotYourFriend Definitely not a "boy scout", more like a girl scout. And experience means I have an opinion. You can disagree with me as much as you like (or not believe me), I'm really not bothered.
@@nickyzw You aren't bothered? Doesn't surprise me at all. Most of you lot that were happy to jump on them for the "risk" with your "experience"...were very quick to judge yet blissfully full of shit.
The threat in the area has persistently been downgraded since the start of the 20s, and while nothing is ever guaranteed, there hasn't been a major incident in awhile...if they were planning to spend there time on Mindanao, then sure, take a bit more caution but even then. It isn't at all like you (and others) have suggested.
@@GoogleIsNotYourFriend I've lived all around the world. In all types of countries and safety conditions. It's all about taking calculated risks in life. I've taken a lot of risks in my life. However, if you have children, you have a responsibility over their lives and going through a red zone is just reckless with a family. Additionally, these are TH-camrs with a lot of clout. Other sailers watch them and follow their example - the next boat won't be so lucky. And for your information, I did live in Mindanao. However, if you know the area at all, you know, warnings are relevant to that whole southern area.
@@nickyzw Exactly why I asked when you lived there...you are talking like it is still half a decade ago.
Your intentions might be good, trying to warn people...but you are spreading misinformation.
EDIT: Can you provide anything to back up your claim from the last couple of years? At best you'll find some petty theft at docks...
I love you all and so enjoy all your videos. But just my opinion, and it’s an opinion, but why oh why would you ever put you family at risk? Whatever reasons you come up with add the words “this time” to the end. You’re enjoying a life everyone fantasizes over, but putting your family in peril makes zero sense to me. I know if we’re watching these then things are okay…this time!
Opinions are great and all. But better kept to yourself honestly. Live your life and let others live theirs. If you think these two would put their family in danger, you haven’t been watching long.
@@aubu1even when their own government has published warnings against traveling by boat in the Sulu Sea? 🤦🏻♀️
Couldn't agree more , there are a lot of safer places to travel .
Sailing already has a great risk of danger and then add more .
Statistically from what I can glean; driving to the shopping mall might be a bigger risk. Like they said, they just keep on the move through the zones.
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Riley you really need to take a look at yourself . Your EGO is out of control . Why would you take your family anywhere their might be DANGER. It's dangerous enough doing normal sails so much can go wrong . I haven't watched the video yet but from the information from your introduction says enough . I don't know if you're playing up the danger but it's not a game .
I've noticed for awhile now that your EGO has been inflated and getting out of control .
I'll be praying for you and your family and any passengers you have aboard .
This video is hard to watch. Very disappointing that you’d endanger your kids and crew who trust you.
I have been following this channel for years now , but have to say that this does not sit right with me. Something is off here. Would anyone really be so casual with his family`s safety , and post about it ? Something is not right here..
It's what younger people like to call "main character syndrome", kinda like the "oh but it won't happen to me" mentality.
There are graveyards full of those types of people. Complacency kills.
@@rar23424 Thank you for the insight . My first reaction : this passage may not have happened the way it was presented .
Unfortunately, views matter. That shouldn't take priority over safety.
Used to be a patreon but picked up a bad vibe in Riley a few months ago and cancelled. Started w that ridiculous family unfriendly boy toy boat. I believe Riley has just enough sailing experience to put himself and his family in terrible risk. Elayna’s an idiot to follow him down this path of self destruction. This is not going to end well.
Can’t watch anymore, couldn’t even finish the video. You’re knowingly putting CHILDREN’S lives at risk. The torture that they would have to go through if pirates boarded your ship is unimaginable. So disappointed.
Pirates will chain every one and torture and sell someone??? I don’t want to think about it ! Please be safe please! People get rich and get more crazy sometimes 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I do think Riley has lost his mind. He buys a boat built for speed, not comfort or safety (for kids) and then he, as the captain, moves everyone into an unsafe area. I have been watching these guys for years, and it used to be SO much better. They had more fun, it was more fun to watch. Now they just seem stressed and uncomfortable.
I fear one day reading a headline about your family meeting an unfortunate end because sailing is risky. My grandparents were sailers and lost friends that had been sailing for decades. But it’s the life you choose and that’s great but to knowingly ADD to that danger in such a horrible potentially violent way I cannot fathom.
Did you know that your previous boat (catamaran) was nicer? Somehow it was better and more enjoyable to watch you on that boat. And I think it was safer for children.
F@ck I love u guys but why even try to risk this sh!t with ur kids onboard sure luck now but what if! It’s a red zone for a reason I’m quite pissed that u done that but I’m also glad ur ok
Im hoping the danger was dramatized for the sake of viewership. If not, this seems like a pretty profound error in judgement. Perhaps trying to seem care-free with a sleep-in and casual fishing adventure in such a place was a part of an attempt to bring levity to this episode. However, it comes across as negligent and entitled. I am typically a big supporter of all the astounding, unparalleled, and inspiring work ya’ll do. But this story-crafting begs either clarification for the audience, or reflection for future voyages.
Very well said; I couldn't agree more! The "lie in" comment really rubbed me the wrong way.
Why would you risk your children’s life’s !!!!!so stupid Riley just for kicks
I'm not so nice, that was the stupidest, most selfish thing I have seen in .y time. You have no business having friends, your wife & especially those two little kids & put them in a dangerous situation like that. You have no business operating a boat with passengers. Good god scared me watching this video.
If you are gambling and find yourself at a pokier table, and you haven't identified who is the fish, guess what? It's you. 8 Signs you are the fish out of water. 1) you have damaged your own hull. 2) You are without comms 3)Your crew is sick 4)The military tells you "you're an idiot" 5) You are voluntarily sailing into the middle of a pirate red zone 7)You can't identify your kill 8)You're complaining about bad luck.
Thank You!!!
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@@sharimahigab1292Smart Traveler dot gov dot au:
"The threat of kidnapping and piracy in the southern Philippines is high, especially in the area of the Sulu Archipelago. If you travel to the southern Philippines despite our advice, get professional security advice. Ensure your accommodation has proper security measures. Don't travel by boat."
I hope you take heed of the comments on this video , and not put your toddlers in danger again ,
I have been saying this since they purchased this new boat. Taking aside the huge red zone danger that boat is NOT suitable or safe for a family and two toddlers. These are two parents that are concerned about themselves and their appearance first and foremost. I’m sorry to say this but it’s only a matter of time before something bad happens. Very bad.
I just watched this episode (I'm behind a few episodes). I have been following your channel from the beginning. This is the first time I clicked on "disliked". Pirates are not Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean, they are terrorist. The fisherman that came to your boat and you gave food to him, could have been a scout. He could have been checking out your boat to see who's on it. With Forest being sick, 2 women, 2 kids on board, things could have turned out different. You guys have been enjoying you sailing around the world, it only takes one bad event to happen and it will all come tumbling down. I still enjoy your channel and will still watch, safe travels. Number one priority is keep your family safe.
It’s unbelievable the risks they put others and their kids through. The “it will never happen to me” attitude is great until it does happen to you. Speaking from experience here. Seven days to take the slow safe route seems like the only option worth considering.
Some might say the same about off grid living in Idaho. You would think one adventurer would respect another. You have no idea of their security precautions. They get more life in before noon than many of us do in a year. I think they discussed among each other and made the right decision for themselves and since we're seeing the video it would appear that they somehow made it through the red zone where one piracy event has been recorded since 2020. How a viewer thousands of miles thinks they know best is beyond me.
@JEB Your comparing the risk they just took, ignoring warnings to save a little time essentially, with the horrific things these pirates do to people. Women in front of their partners and the lives their kids would have if taken in the hands of monsters to Off grid living in Idaho?…
@@Rebeka1589 there has been far more murders and car accidents in any state than piracy in that sea in the past 4 years if you care to look. Forrest was sick and likely had a timeline to keep for his own plans. Not so easy add a week to travel when international plans are involved. Everyone acting as if the evil men are just waiting to pounce on anyone who crosses an imaginary red line is a bit silly. They discussed it, they made a plan, they love their family and they made their choice.
@@JEB.. Have you ever been on a boat? Most countries do not allow weapons (no guns). Some countries make you even turn in your spear fishing equipment and you can get it when you check out of the country. The build of the boat is flimsy, the "doors" are very easily opened. So, a homesteader in Idaho probably has multiple guns for protection, along with dogs to warn approaching dangers. They are completely vulnerable to dangers and if their boat becomes damaged or unable to sail or motor, they are stuck in a dangerous area. You cannot compare the safety of a home verses a boat.
@@lilygirl2719 yes. The point is not there is no danger, but relative to their normal day it was not much of a change. No place and no one is "safe". Live and let live is my point. Smart sailors have undisclosed personal security options, by the way.
We sail in Asia for almost a decade. For me you had only one option: the safe route. Even considering the alternatives doesn’t make sense. Those potential attackers come from such a different world, unless you live there you have no idea about their aggression. They have nothing to lose and in their eyes all foreigners are extremely wealthy.
Mob or mayday is often used by fishermen on island to guide their ships into the mangrove. You’ll find it all over Indonesia and Malaysia. It’s tricky in a no go zone. Best to stay away.
Really not cool that you ignored the safety warnings. Not only are you putting your family and crew in danger, but you are also potentially risking the lives of the soldiers that might have to attempt to save you. Any ransom paid would also provide funding for more kidnappings and other criminal activities.
I was actually veeeery surprised by your choice of passage. Riley used to be very protective and responsible, but this seems to be an unnecessary risk to take. Not just because of the kids, but you also have two crew. Imagine something happens to anyone on board ... you will never ever forgive yourself having chosen this path because in the end it only saved you a day or two.
I'm glad it worked out, but shit happens ... 😕
It all started with the insistence on getting that new boat which was really what Riley wanted.
Love the vids and been watching for a while but WTF would you take two kids into an area that has pirates in the first place?
Darwin trying to prevent his dad from having any more kids 🤣
LOL!! I felt that and I'm a girl ha ha
Long time viewer 1st time commentator. I have read the most of the recent comments. Keyboard woke warriors who have never left their own country should be blocked from the comments. Your boys will thank you in the future for the unreal life experiences that you guys have given them. True adventure has its risks. Keep pushing the boundaries guys.
As the kids get older, they’ll start to forget all their adventures but with the benefit of TH-cam, the memories are forever. Amazing ✌️👊🏼
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You'll be surprised about how much they remember. I remember a bunch of all these activities when I was a kiddo 😊
Ja memories of a father that puts his family in great danger in a red zone and no communication to the outside world his kids will love that one when they get older and see that.
@@sonjabertels6830 they're fine, give em a break. They were out at friggin sea they had to make a choice.
@@teagz621 you oviously don't have children.
I would never take a chance in a RED ZONE ever. Who cares if the first option was a longer route always take the safe route. ⛵️⚓️
Like everyone has said, this was unbelievably reckless… and I have to say, the editing of the news clips to emphasise the danger felt like a weirdly emotionally exploitative decision. To put your family and crew at risk and then exploit the situation for views is a really out of touch move. It’s just disappointing as a longstanding fan of the channel to see this.
Agree completely 😢
Agree with u also, really sad to see 😔
I felt the same back then when they were sailing anywhere while the entire world was confined. I remember they got kicked out from Culatra 5:36 Island and they portrayed it as we are not welcome… the entitlement they portray their hippy happy lifestyle ignoring the reality with no realism. It’s all about them and their life. I have very mixed emotions about these two. They are an inspiration but at other levels they act a bit too naive, unrealistically. 5:11
Yeah. So many content creators that used to se so genuine and authentic, have become all about selling you some BS. Literally.
Exploiting their audience's trust in them.
Better help, VPNs, game, earbuds, ag1, etc are all filled with half-truths and straight up lies in these ads the content creators make
First time i disliked one of your videos and i've been watching for ages ... maybe it's because i have a small kid or it's just because i don't expect this kind of "dangerous" content from you guys. I mean you made videos in which you guys did something crazy or dangerous and it was ok but this ... just no. instant dislike. i hope this won't be a normal decision making from now on.
Ok nothing happened and i don't know anything about the area and i didn't research it so maybe it wasn't even that big of a thing but you guys made it look like it was really dangerous and if it really was then ... what a stupid video.
What was the decision making? You guys wanted to create some drama to spice it up? C'mon ... you both are pretty creative people and you surely know this wasn't good drama ... more like "tabloid" drama.
Hope you won't take this comment in the wrong way. it's just an opinion and even if we don't agree we can still be friends :D
Hmmm…if it was just you guys, I could understand taking the risk a “little bit”, but you have two precious babies YOU are making dangerous decisions for, not cool.
That was 23 yrs ago. Geeze. Philippines is safe !!
@@sharimahigab1292no, it's not. The Australian government's official travel site has a red level warning
"The threat of kidnapping and piracy in the southern Philippines is high, especially in the area of the Sulu Archipelago. If you travel to the southern Philippines despite our advice, get professional security advice. Ensure your accommodation has proper security measures. Don't travel by boat."
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Fantastic episode and brilliant watching but red zone is surely not the way to protect your awesome family. If an area is red zone for pirates then that should be a no go area…. Even if it took an extra two days to travel the distance__
How do you sail with your family ANYWHERE with no satellite. That boats been a HOT MESS since you got it. Ugh
Ok are you just being drama? Because there is no way I would want to believe you Riley would put your family in that type of danger. Unless you have ample amount of arsenal. Just saying! Views maybe? Hoping🧜🏼
was sad to see the great risk you took on this one, you guys have sailed all over the world and will continue to do so, missing out on this one area would mean nothing compared to the risk you took. we love watching your adventures but want you to all put your safety first!
Yikes, when you said you were going to take your chances in the red zone, thats the first time watching you guys in all these years I've really winced. Obviously you are fine but man thats a huge risk especially with kids to save a few days.... Glad it went OK for you though and you didn't end up being another statistic.
I know things are calmer there but you're boat screams Western wealth and you have two small kids. I love you guys but I think this is a step too far to undertake with the children on board.
“Western wealth”
Please. Back up and see where these guys originated. Elena was playing guitar for coins in the cap and Riley was a hand on an oil rig. They spent half a dozen years at sea on small boats learning to how make content people wanted to see. They inherited nothing from the “west”, except possibly work ethic and spirit. They made every dime.
Them kid can prb better on the water then you are
The extent people would go to get views is insanity.......views are surely not worth your babies lives wtf
I can't even watch this video. I'm losing interest in this channel. I feel like I'm guilty by association for the danger you put your family in.
As a parent its very hard to watch you put your kids at risk AGAIN, you must be really addicted to the fame or the adrenaline, likely both cause you justified the decisions like it was no big deal or you edited like that.
ADVENTURE IS DIFFERENT FROM DANGER YOU HAVE PRECIOUS CARGO ON THE BOAT THE CHILDREN & FAMILY & FRIENDS CREW THIS IS LITTLE TO MUCH😮😮😮😮😮😮
Why would you put your family at risk to go someplace that is that dangerous!!! I would say you're not being very smart with your 2 children on board as well. I have thought for some time that your boat is very beautiful, but not proper for small children to live on board. just felt this was the time to share my thoughts!! I don't mean to be harsh, but it appears dangerous.
To be a legend hero???
Putting your family and women in danger doesn't sound fun. If a women says she is uncomfortable, her voice needs to be heard. Especially, a mother.
Yup not cool. Not a good captain if he puts everyone in danger. You’re too cool until you’re dead. I’m sure he won’t learn that’s is attitude.
The more successful in life will be IDIOT in one minute 😇😇😇😭😭😭
You have any idea what they would do to her and those children???
I’m sorry you guys I don’t really understand with two women but especially two little boys why are you guys there? I don’t really understand. I wish you would explain it better I mean not that it’s any of my business but I love watching you guys, but this is scaring me poor Elena, the other girl and the boys well for all of you if they have guns.
You know when she said “I think we are going to take our chances” I would actually list out what the actual chances are. You can list what the news have stated and what the families of the victims have said. Is this worth those chances ..
I understand a crew member was sick which was heartbreaking but he had better chances of surviving that for a few more days then pirates.
Last thing I would ask myself would I truly be taking this risk if no one else ever found out we made this voyage.
Filipinos all over the world are watching you describe their homeland. This could bring you subscribers if you play your cards right. But you must mix with locals. Gone with the wynns are doing great. But you slam or complain of someone staring at you cuz you’re wearing a thong… ( when it’s a conservative Catholic country) don’t be surprised. So it’s up to you. There is more to a country than just your new boat.
Longtime viewer here. First time I get angry with Riley. When a woman says I don’t wanna go there, listen to her. It’s a red zone for a reason. You can take a risk on your own but never put others in danger. Stay safe and don’t do that again. My heart is not the youngest one anymore 😉
especially because the things that would happen to elayna are probably far far worse than anything that they would do to riley
I admire you guys and have been follower for years but taking risk when you have children is a HUGE NO FOR ME!!!!
Glad you guys made it safe through the Sulu Sea! Just a word of caution to other sailors though, that the red zones in the Philippines should be taken seriously. I am a filipino and have done scuba dive excursions in the Sulu Sea and the Abu Sayyaf Group are really dangerous. They have been linked as being partners with other Terrorist organizations like ISIS.
With that being said, Mabuhay and welcome to my beautiful country. If you have the opportunity to sail to Tubbataha Reef (this is still in the SULU sea), I do recommend you do so, as it is a UNESCO world heritage site and has the most insane marine biodiversity. Additionally, If you go to Coron (an area in Palawan) You can also free dive and scuba dive the Japanese World War 2 Shipwrecks that have corals growing on and around them. Have a fantastic trip. Looking forward to see all the Philippine content :)
Sorry but here's a dumb question. Why take your family through a red zone?
Sometimes people realize their most stupid moments ???
So sad to see Forrest go! Hope he joins you guys again soon and that his health shapes up!
What for more unpaid work …. Used to be called slavery ……….
@@gregorymatthies5297 im pretty sure its paid, and its not like forest was forced to do this. he loves adventures and this is a great chance to show his skills to a wider audience + forest is not new to the channel he has been in many other episodes so stop being such a hater!
Riley, you scoff at the innate danger women have to face every day. I’d encourage you to have more consideration for your wife and kids as you make decisions such as these. Good video though!
Those are illegal to keep. If you don't know what it is, don't kill it
Sharing your food with that fisherman was a wonderful and caring thig to do. So proud of you Aussies. Lenny's boating skills get better every day. I cringed just a little when one of the kids tried to turn Riley into a Eunuch.
I’m confused, Elyana expressed concerned, you seem to agree Rylie. But then you still took that course. I’ve been watching many years, but this seemed very irresponsible
You are living a dream life, but I think your boys are going to have a difficult time adjusting to any other way to live. Not that that is bad, just different. Lenny and Darwin have seen more of the world already than most adults. Do you ever wonder what they are going to want to do when they are grown up?
Came down to read the comments...never do that...but it's good to see that others are thinking exactly what I was. Congrats on the attention though...this shld definitely direct the algorithm to give attention to the channel. Guess it doesn't matter how bad the attention is at this point, as long as you have those views and comments down below. Sorry on the big fail with this guys, we are all invested and hate to see do you something silly and unnecessary.
Ya, well deserved flak youre getting honestly. How dare you risk your children. Pathetic. Shame on you. 7 days or a lifetime of grief....damn dude....huge yikes.
If it was only you two then take the risk. It’s not only you two, so you should be more responsible with your decisions. Of course, nothing could go wrong but when it does go wrong, you’ll wish you made a better decision. I’m sure the percentage of nothing going wrong is very high, but the warnings are there for a reason. Without kids, I would be completely beyond board with trying something like that, but I have an adventure is nature. But if my child was on board, there’s no way. Good luck!🍀
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Those missionaries was 23 yrs ago
She must really like you or think her options are low....you would place your family at risk for a video....in the US we have a different term, but it's a new time.....I am betting this will not end well....first the stick shifty (trimaran, come on) and dangerous endeavors....but hey, you had a nice run....didn't have to end this way, but ....
I would never take my family into a known red zone. The danger is not worth any time saved . The reported horrors that have happened to others should be enough to keep anyone away from there.
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What a way to sell content - sad.