How did you go about building your Krenko-led Goblin deck? I built one a few months ago, and am always curious to see how other people have approached their Goblin decks.
@@renemenjivar1141 I actually started with the goblin half of the merfolk vs goblins dual deck and then crammed in all the other red cards I had at my disposal to round out the 100 I needed. I'll post the current checklist in a moment for you :)
@@renemenjivar1141 i have a lot of low drops, a few ways to untap krenko, and some win cons are the couple enchantments that deal damage whenever a creature enters your battlefield, and stuff like pashik mons. It goes infinite using the goblin miner guy and sword of puruuns
I love lands! In a lot of decks a land is basically a dead draw in late game. With a lands deck, I never have to worry since lands can even be my most powerful options in some scenarios. A powerful deck that mitigates some of mtgs biggest problems seems like an absolute win.
Meren is my longest lasting deck and I honestly find it hard to play decks that don't function like she does. Reanimator is just the best archetype hands down
They played Commander with a 1 TIX budget on MtGGoldfish's Commander Clash before; yes you need to make some cuts but a lot of commander staples tend to be very low online, so it's definitely possible to build a semi-cheap deck for next to nothing. One of this channel's normal decks isn't likely to be more than 2 or 3 TIX online!
@@andrewsparkes8829 Well, aside from the Yuriko and Yarok. Both of those are sitting pretty at around 8 tix each. Though with the overlap with his ramp and rocks, and the fact you don't need to by a card more than once to have one copy for any deck, that does help save on tix.
@@renemenjivar1141 stax decks focus on resource denial. Cards that fit into a stax strategy includes Smoke Stax, Destructive Flow, Winter Orb, and Presence of the Master. The key to a successful stax build is to find ways to break symmetry so that you are not as effected as your opponents
@@jellybutton4216 I (used to) wield Marath. Very versatile commander, can do burn damage, buff my creatures-though only one at a time-and it gets bigger every time it gets cast from my command zone, meaning it's a perpetually growing threat my opponents can never get rid of. Path to Exile? Command Zone. Mortify? Command Zone. Armageddon? Command Zone. It's flipping awesome-and hilarious- to have a commander that actually benefits from being cast from the zone.
Me like Mitch but me want Atemsis Deck! In all seriousness though you helped to bring me back into magic and I love your videos. Keep up the good work!
@@TheCommandersQuarters I actually tried building an Atemsis deck but it was strange due to the fact that I tried to balance the number of each converted mana cost. I have the same number of 1 drops as I do 5 drops. Very different way to build...
Mitch! You included my girl Shirei! It was your vid that inspired me to build her, and she is now one of my fave 3 decks! For such a jank commander the deck is so good, and its hilarious as so many people dismiss her the first time, and (dont) live to regret it...😜
Thank you so much for this informative video. I was out of the game for 15 years before returning and discovering the Commander format through a friend. Tribal and Land themes were easy to figure out, but I'd hear or read about Voltron and Aristocrats at my local game shop or online, and I'd be utterly confused by the term. This helps me understand the archetypes so much more, especially as I'm realizing a card I'm using as a commander for a new deck is perfect for the Aristocrats theme. Thanks again, and keep up the wonderful work.
Definitely a Go Wide deck is my favorite. Just tokens, tokens, tokens, whether it be Hapatra, Trostani or even Brudiclad, creating an army quickly is my favorite style to play.
I'm really digging the expanded content. Pseudo tutorial stuff like this is actually pretty useful for anyone who is either just getting into the game, or even those who are trying to get better at edh. Good call on this topic, Mitch!
I don’t know if you’d ever do a video not strictly on commander, but I’d love to see a video by you explaining the different formats within magic and the differences between them? I’m new to the community and it seems like there’s so many!
I LOVE Aristocrats commander decks. In fact, my first commander deck which I'm building right now is around Yawgmoth and your video/deck tech was a huge help in finding the cards I need and optimizing the price for the more pricey ones. Thank you so much!
I think you should've started this video series with the 3 main strategy types: Aggro, Combo and Control. There is a pretty good, extensive wikipedia article on the matter. It would also be worth mentioning at this point already, that Combo is generally the strongest of the three (in EDH) and Aggro the weakest. Then you'd have to cover the mixtures of strategy types, like Aggro+Control = Tempo. After that, you can start with deckbuilding archetypes like tribal, etc and assign them the strategy categories that they can fall under.
Even aggro commanders have combos. Are they considered combo or aggro? Would you consider Shirei to be aggro, combo, or control when it does all three?
@@infamous0ne789 A commander alone isn't necessarily aggro, combo or control. It depends almost 100% on what your deck does. However you can look at it backwards - take a deck first and then look at commanders that fit into it. In that sense, Shirei suits to both an aggro deck and to be the commander of a combo deck.
My best deck right now is a voltron style enchantress deck with Tuvasa, the Sunlit. I started with your budget deck and I've modified it a bunch over the past few months. It's really fun, thanks Mitch!
I'm all about the Tribal decks!!! First EDH deck I built was your Zada budget deck and I LOVED it! I have an Elf tribal now that's definitely not budget but it's my pet deck for sure!!! Love the variety of content we are getting! Keep it up and hopefully we see you in Vegas for Magicfest!
First! But Mitch, cant thank you enough for your content. Your stuff has not only made my deck building and playing better, but you've actually helped my playgroup inadvertently. Thanks for the awesome stuff, and keep it up. Your channel is the best!
I never saw my Lyzolda deck as an aristocrat deck. I saw it more as a cult deck as my game plan was to force everyone to join me in my sacrificial escapades.
I love voltron styles! It's mainly you and your commander against the world. I play in a fairly competitive meta and it's a fun challenge to make a voltron deck that can keep up. Tuvasa or Akiri Line-Slinger/Bruse Tarl are 2 of my favorites. Some cEDH players tend to neglect blockers because they just want to outpace you with a combo. That oversight can be fatal.
I love spellslinger decks like mizzix, talrand, locust god, etc. To me, it provides a great mix of control, combo, value, and interaction that you can easily tweak to best fit your play group. Additionally, the big bucks investments for these decks aren't just niche picks. As a rising freshman in college, it feels a little better investing in rhystic study and cyclonic rift knowing that I'll use them even if I'm not playing spellslinger later on. Furthermore, it's a relevant archetype at most levels of play. It has good wincons at all budgets and can be fun, so I recommend giving it a try.
I rarely can define my decks as one archetype only, so I prefer to think of them in terms of intertwining "themes". My Vhati deck, for instance, is tokens/aristocrat/graveyard. My Merieke deck is tap-untap/enchantments/weenies. Inalla is wizards/EtB/aristocrats. What I like about thinking of my decks in terms of themes is that themes often emerge organically. By deliberately building Merieke around tap-untap, I incidentally realized that I had a lot of enchantments, and most of my creatures had power 2 or less. I then improved the deck by emphasizing on those themes and adding cards that gave me value for playing around them. Tap-untap was a top-down design, while the other two themes were bottom-up.
I absolutely adore aristocrats decks. I am literally playtesting my Teysa Karlov deck right now with some slight changes I made to it after getting the orzhov sleeves.
I seem to tend towards tribal decks, but I also like lands decks somewhat. This video also gave me an idea for my first Voltron deck, using Myriad mechanics to try to wipe out everyone in a multiplayer game in one turn once my commander is set up.
I love the aristocrat decks because it combines my two favorite things. Creating a ton of tokens and sacrificing things off for value. I just bought the Teysa Karlov deck and I’m really looking forward to playing it.
I may be in the minority here (and I'm definitely in the minority within my own playgroup), but always have and always will love mill as an archetype. I have a U/B Phenax, God of Deception "Butts Matter" deck that I absolutely love playing in Commander. As an archetype, I enjoy the challenge present in milling out ~400 cards before my 40 life is reduced to nothing. I also love how there are so many variations on the mill archetype: from creatures like Jace's Archivist that can Wheel or Windfall through everyone's decks quickly, to infinite mana combos fuelling X-costed draw spells like Blue Sun's Zenith, to the self-mill strategies based around Labratory Maniac or Psychic Spiral, to weird combos like the classic Painter's Servant + Grindstone, and so many more than even those. I realize it gets a bad rap as archetypes go, but as far as I'm concerned the hate is unfair and overblown. Mill is such an interesting and engaging archetype that takes up a fair share of MTG cardboard from nearly the beginning of the game's existence. Anyway, rant over, and I look forward to hearing your take on Mill in a future 2 Cents episode, Mitch!
@@phoenixnest8044 In the self-mill archetype, there are alt win-cons in Labratory Maniac and/or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries. Both of those cards say "If you would draw a card while your library has no cards in it, you win the game instead". There are also different combos/synergies that benefit from self-milling for set up, such as with Psychic Spiral, Increasing Confusion, and Manic Scribe. Depending on how you brew your deck, there are plenty of reasons to mill yourself instead of your opponents.
Interesting to play, not to play against. Mill gets a bad rap for the same reason prison does, it is not fun to be unable to play your cards. You can argue that one is worse than the other, but the reason for their dislike is the same. It can be very demoralizing to get hit by a few consuming aberration triggers in one turn and then have whatever you would played countered or otherwise dealt with due to the abundance of answers in the UB color pairing.
@@phoenixnest8044 No, my Phenax deck is not built around self-mill. I only mentioned self-mill as one of the multiple sub-types of mill strategies, in general. I love the mill archetype as a whole, and was just expressing how many varieties of mill win-cons there are in the game.
My personal favorite has to be lands. There's just something so satisfying about dropping three lands a turn or tapping them for massive amounts of mana like "yeah I can cast an X spell for 13 because why not?" Even some of my favorite cards are lands like Dark Depths, Vesuva, Gaea's Cradle, Wasteland, Cabal's Coffers and Urborg so why not throw them all together?
I love the creature type archetype. Mono-white Angels is something I've always wanted, and as I'm asking it I need all the mana ramp I can. Baneslayer Angel was one of the first mythic rares I ever got and I really want to make a EDH angel deck with it. Also mono-green infect... long story.
Since you asked, among the archetypes that I gravitate towards is -- Toolbox Strategies. Commander/EDH is especially well formed for Toolbox because of it's singleton quality. In Toolbox, you want to a number of ways to tutor up cards or resources and a selection of "perfect tools" for various problems. This type of deck is highly interactive, tends to be very much "fair" magic, and is the "Judo" philosophy of magic, often using your opponents' game plans against them to each out incremental advantage.
My favorite archetype is one you didnt mention which I feel like it should: Reanimator/flicker, commanders that abuse ETBs from either reanimating them or flickering them. My main commander is Marchesa, The Black rose. Such a fun deck and is very resilient to creature removal. Then you have all the azorius and bant commanders that want you to flicker your creature's to abuse ETBs
Aristocrats all the way. Black was always my go to color in commander and I made my first commander deck around Meren, with a decent amount of sacrificing, but obviously centered around value from recuring creatures. Next I made a Deck around my favourite Ravnica Character, Teysa and worked pretty well, but once Yawgmoth was announced, I found my forever favourite card in Commander xD
I know that it's probably not that great in Commander, but Spellslinger decks are my thing, cast a ton of things or draw a lot of cards always feels super great, also love your vids, i was able to get into Commander because of you and now its my favourite format
I have two decks I really like right now-one is an Aminatou deck that has a bunch of different ETB triggers and plays like a toolbox deck, and one is a Tasigur deck that plays politically and makes deals until it has accumulated enough advantage to win the game.
Based on my current decks, I would say my favorite archetype is reanimator. I have Gisa and Geralf as well as Chainer, Dementia Master decks, both of which like putting creatures in the yard to reap value.
I could never decide on what archetype to play, so I decided to play them all. Theme, tribal, midrange, group hug, lands, permission, aggro, jank, spell slinger, superfriends, I try to have each archetype represented at least once.
Tribal is definitely my favourite, there’s something about a tribal theme that really gets me invested in the game ✨it tells a bit more of a story and has more flavour than a deck purely based on function imo
I love Tribal and Voltron style decks. My two main decks are a Derevi Bird Tribal deck and a Samut, Voice of Dissent Thallid deck. I think I might run Gareth, Leonin Titan for a white Voltron deck, mainly because he can give himself protection from any color and is a powerful defender. Place Entangler on him, with all the other benefits of a Voltron deck, and you have a nearly unbreachable wall AND a killing force.
Tribal is my go-to strategy. The only true staple that wrecks your wallet is Cavern of Souls plus with Tribal, you can easily focus on sub-strategies since you won't have to think too much on your choice of creature spells. I've been playing 5 color allies since the advent of EDH and when Tazri came out, I have to repeatedly show new playgroups that I don't run the degeneracy that is food chain.
Nice video as always ! My favorite archetype is Colorless Bling stuff :D Maybe you can end this series with a special, presenting bad but fun archetypes like 'chair tribal', 'hat tribal' or 'oops, all ...'
I hesitate to call tribal an archetype. It's just a way to build any of the _actual_ archetypes. While tribal is certainly a _category_ of decks, knowing that your deck is tribal gives me little to no information about its actual strategy. For instance, wizard tribal is often Control or Combo, but it could easily be Aggro or Midrange. Wizards are just the means to the end of realizing an archetypal strategy. Similarly, an aristocrats deck can be Aggro, Midrange, Control, or Combo. The same thing can be said of "lands matter", superfriends, tokens, and all the rest. Even Voltron, which is _likely_ Aggro, could easily be one of the others. At best, one might say that some of these are sub-archetypes.
Zombie (with a hint of aristocrat) tribal! Originally based off your scarab god deck, but I’m interested in making it into a varina deck to not only have her benefits but also to be able to run exile effects since my playgroup seems to love indestructible. I would love to see a varina deck tech from you with the new budget!
I do a sort of aristocratic style with my Freyalise deck. Tap a dork, sac that dork, draw a bunch of cards as a result, or play a massive spell from just that one mana dork's sacrifice. It's fun and funny because I made a reputation for myself of killing people with a massive elven army out of nowhere in my playgroup, so now people are confused when they see me sacrificing that very army to do other things "outside my element"
I love me some control most, but I also enjoy tokeny/agro decks that attack all the time. Favorite commanders are Thassa (great consitancy with the scry and people kinda forget shes there until you end the game with some unblockable big thing) and Derevi (Built him as agro. It's not the usual way I see this built, but it's hella fun. A focus on little flying tokens(spirits are great) and draw on combat damage cards like bident of thassa, coastal piracy, or edric.)
I've always wanted to build an aristocrats deck, but could never get it right - I finally made one with Ghaves, Guru of Spores that is also saproling / fungus tribal, and it's been a lot of fun.
The other archetype I really enjoy is "warping" the expectation of the game. This can come in the form of makign "card draw" kill you ala Nekusar, the Mindrazer or simply making combat damage or combo effects very hard with cards like Angus Mackenzie & ghost quarter or Strangelhold & Aven Mindsensor
Whatever the archetype may be, I always prefer creature strategies. My latest build is Kykar, Wind's Fury token/spellslinger, I primarily win by controlling the pace of board and protecting myself until I can go off and start knocking players out with tokens!
Shu-Yun triggers off noncreatures, so playing equipment is a trigger! Also, using his ability on an oponents creature leads to some really cool politics and interactions
my favorite is spellslinger and reanimator. Spellslinger can also be called storm but it doesn't always have to be a storm deck. Reanimator is great with cards like Alesha and Sidisi who both do different things for the strategy.
Mine has gotta be bant +1/+1 counters, with Jenara, Asura of war at the helm. Super flexible, easy to pivot it from going tall to going wide, and is just a ton of fun. I really liked playing Alesha, Who Smiles at Death, but I like Jenara's playstyle the best because all of the creatures in my deck feels great to play, no dead hands really, not to mention jusy how free-form Jenara is as a commander.
I love tribal but aristocrats is my favourite kind of deck, my Edgar Markov deck kinda does both things, but I have to keep looking for more tribal-aristocrat action!
I'm struggling with my Judith. I feel like the limitation of only non-token creatures is hampering my style. Meanwhile, I am a super fan of elf tribal. My first edh deck is Nath of the Gilt Leaf, and it's such a nice go-wide army. And when things go awry, you can just generate too much mana and Exsanguinate your opponents. I ❤️ elves.
My current decks are Brudiclad, Teysa Karlov, Feather (blink theme, not Voltron), General Tazri (Ally tribal), Sisay, Weatherlight Captain (Legendaries tribal I guess), and Phenax (mill) My first deck was an Arabho cat tribal. I guess I gravitate toward a tribal theme but I have a bit of everything
I run a slimefoot aristocrat commander deck. That is one of my favorite decks to run. But I also run a lot of tribal decks like gishath, and a sorin, vengeful bloodlord oathbreaker vampire deck. I also have a ninja modern deck, that one is a ton of fun.
Tribal! Tribal all the way! Literally all of my decks are tribal: Minotaurs, Wurms, Heroic Humans, Hydras, Beasts, Krakens, Zombies, Walls, Demons, Slivers, Griffon, Angel, Bird, Dragon, Goblin, and Cat. Those are all of my decks spread between my commander and modern collection. Of course with sleeves and boxes to match each one.
I so wanted a video like this to exist !
Hope you enjoy it!
This is some great insight! My krenko is offended that you didn't mention goblins when discussing tribal however.
Haha my sincerest apologies to the Mob Boss
How did you go about building your Krenko-led Goblin deck? I built one a few months ago, and am always curious to see how other people have approached their Goblin decks.
@@renemenjivar1141 I actually started with the goblin half of the merfolk vs goblins dual deck and then crammed in all the other red cards I had at my disposal to round out the 100 I needed. I'll post the current checklist in a moment for you :)
@@renemenjivar1141 deckstats.net/deck-19743806-bd27ce47536c44cd1b6d5417679221bb.html
Here it is
@@renemenjivar1141 i have a lot of low drops, a few ways to untap krenko, and some win cons are the couple enchantments that deal damage whenever a creature enters your battlefield, and stuff like pashik mons. It goes infinite using the goblin miner guy and sword of puruuns
I love lands! In a lot of decks a land is basically a dead draw in late game. With a lands deck, I never have to worry since lands can even be my most powerful options in some scenarios. A powerful deck that mitigates some of mtgs biggest problems seems like an absolute win.
Absolutely!
This is why I am so happy about Chulane from Throne of Eldraine. Other land commanders just haven't been my style yet but this one is amazing.
Tried Lord Windgrace and stuck with it, excellent land commander, probably the best blueless one
I was about to be offended that my graveyard/reanimator decks didn't get mentioned then I realized it was only part 1 :D
It will be addressed sometime I promise!
Meren is my longest lasting deck and I honestly find it hard to play decks that don't function like she does. Reanimator is just the best archetype hands down
@@taylorkempinski3965 I run Teneb the Harvester and Muldrotha the Gravetide currently.
2 cents? Finally a budget I can afford!
Underrated comment. Well played.
Haha nice
lmao
They played Commander with a 1 TIX budget on MtGGoldfish's Commander Clash before; yes you need to make some cuts but a lot of commander staples tend to be very low online, so it's definitely possible to build a semi-cheap deck for next to nothing. One of this channel's normal decks isn't likely to be more than 2 or 3 TIX online!
@@andrewsparkes8829 Well, aside from the Yuriko and Yarok. Both of those are sitting pretty at around 8 tix each. Though with the overlap with his ramp and rocks, and the fact you don't need to by a card more than once to have one copy for any deck, that does help save on tix.
Aristocrat decks are probably my favorite deck type. But I do also like playing stax on occasion.
Both can be a lot of fun to run!
What is stax?
You should look up “stax mtg” to find out.
@@renemenjivar1141 stax decks focus on resource denial. Cards that fit into a stax strategy includes Smoke Stax, Destructive Flow, Winter Orb, and Presence of the Master. The key to a successful stax build is to find ways to break symmetry so that you are not as effected as your opponents
@@renemenjivar1141 stax results in the most fun, most interactive games of edh!
My favorite archetype is control. I'm loving your 2 cents videos.
Well thanks! Control is definitely a fun one! A lot of variety in that one
Mine is ramp/aggro. Nothing feels more satisfying than ramming in an opponent's face with an army of giant creatures!
@@DJROCKSTAZ what commander do you use. I use Animar
@@jellybutton4216 I (used to) wield Marath. Very versatile commander, can do burn damage, buff my creatures-though only one at a time-and it gets bigger every time it gets cast from my command zone, meaning it's a perpetually growing threat my opponents can never get rid of. Path to Exile? Command Zone. Mortify? Command Zone. Armageddon? Command Zone. It's flipping awesome-and hilarious- to have a commander that actually benefits from being cast from the zone.
I like Tribal decks. I run Sliver Overlord and Omnath as commanders.
I have a Grimgrin tribal.
i have a weird lathriel voltron tribal deck. its fun
Me like Mitch but me want Atemsis Deck!
In all seriousness though you helped to bring me back into magic and I love your videos. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! Will do! Might be one I have to tackle some day
@@TheCommandersQuarters I actually tried building an Atemsis deck but it was strange due to the fact that I tried to balance the number of each converted mana cost. I have the same number of 1 drops as I do 5 drops. Very different way to build...
Mitch! You included my girl Shirei! It was your vid that inspired me to build her, and she is now one of my fave 3 decks! For such a jank commander the deck is so good, and its hilarious as so many people dismiss her the first time, and (dont) live to regret it...😜
@@LTJ Absolutely! Haha glad you are enjoying Shirei!!!
I've been playing magic for a year and I never understood what the definitions were of aristocrat and voltron
Thanks I really appreciate it
Thank you so much for this informative video. I was out of the game for 15 years before returning and discovering the Commander format through a friend. Tribal and Land themes were easy to figure out, but I'd hear or read about Voltron and Aristocrats at my local game shop or online, and I'd be utterly confused by the term. This helps me understand the archetypes so much more, especially as I'm realizing a card I'm using as a commander for a new deck is perfect for the Aristocrats theme. Thanks again, and keep up the wonderful work.
Glad it helped! Will do!
Definitely a Go Wide deck is my favorite. Just tokens, tokens, tokens, whether it be Hapatra, Trostani or even Brudiclad, creating an army quickly is my favorite style to play.
I'm really digging the expanded content. Pseudo tutorial stuff like this is actually pretty useful for anyone who is either just getting into the game, or even those who are trying to get better at edh. Good call on this topic, Mitch!
My favorite is my dragons deck but this video is good for someone thats new and wanting to start playing commander
Dragons are a pretty sweet tribe to build around!
Dragons was my first deck and is still my favorite
What is your commander?
@@CapsFan117 it's the Ur-Dragon from 2017
I don’t know if you’d ever do a video not strictly on commander, but I’d love to see a video by you explaining the different formats within magic and the differences between them? I’m new to the community and it seems like there’s so many!
I LOVE Aristocrats commander decks. In fact, my first commander deck which I'm building right now is around Yawgmoth and your video/deck tech was a huge help in finding the cards I need and optimizing the price for the more pricey ones. Thank you so much!
I think you should've started this video series with the 3 main strategy types: Aggro, Combo and Control. There is a pretty good, extensive wikipedia article on the matter. It would also be worth mentioning at this point already, that Combo is generally the strongest of the three (in EDH) and Aggro the weakest.
Then you'd have to cover the mixtures of strategy types, like Aggro+Control = Tempo.
After that, you can start with deckbuilding archetypes like tribal, etc and assign them the strategy categories that they can fall under.
Even aggro commanders have combos. Are they considered combo or aggro? Would you consider Shirei to be aggro, combo, or control when it does all three?
@@infamous0ne789 A commander alone isn't necessarily aggro, combo or control. It depends almost 100% on what your deck does. However you can look at it backwards - take a deck first and then look at commanders that fit into it. In that sense, Shirei suits to both an aggro deck and to be the commander of a combo deck.
My best deck right now is a voltron style enchantress deck with Tuvasa, the Sunlit. I started with your budget deck and I've modified it a bunch over the past few months. It's really fun, thanks Mitch!
I'm all about the Tribal decks!!! First EDH deck I built was your Zada budget deck and I LOVED it! I have an Elf tribal now that's definitely not budget but it's my pet deck for sure!!! Love the variety of content we are getting! Keep it up and hopefully we see you in Vegas for Magicfest!
I love tribal decks, especially Unesh, Criosphinx Sovereign for all the sphinx summons.
I run Markov aristo/Stax style. Happy to see you included tribal as a archetype.
First! But Mitch, cant thank you enough for your content. Your stuff has not only made my deck building and playing better, but you've actually helped my playgroup inadvertently. Thanks for the awesome stuff, and keep it up. Your channel is the best!
Well thanks! Glad the channel has been helpful!
I never saw my Lyzolda deck as an aristocrat deck. I saw it more as a cult deck as my game plan was to force everyone to join me in my sacrificial escapades.
I love voltron styles! It's mainly you and your commander against the world. I play in a fairly competitive meta and it's a fun challenge to make a voltron deck that can keep up. Tuvasa or Akiri Line-Slinger/Bruse Tarl are 2 of my favorites. Some cEDH players tend to neglect blockers because they just want to outpace you with a combo. That oversight can be fatal.
Aristocrats is my jam. My favorite so far is Elenda... playing that deck is just pure joy once it takes off.
i really love your content, I wish there were more deck techs and content like this as opposed to the neverending spoilers.
I love spellslinger decks like mizzix, talrand, locust god, etc. To me, it provides a great mix of control, combo, value, and interaction that you can easily tweak to best fit your play group. Additionally, the big bucks investments for these decks aren't just niche picks. As a rising freshman in college, it feels a little better investing in rhystic study and cyclonic rift knowing that I'll use them even if I'm not playing spellslinger later on. Furthermore, it's a relevant archetype at most levels of play. It has good wincons at all budgets and can be fun, so I recommend giving it a try.
Group hug decks! Managing table aggro and using your friends as pawns is fun
I rarely can define my decks as one archetype only, so I prefer to think of them in terms of intertwining "themes". My Vhati deck, for instance, is tokens/aristocrat/graveyard. My Merieke deck is tap-untap/enchantments/weenies. Inalla is wizards/EtB/aristocrats.
What I like about thinking of my decks in terms of themes is that themes often emerge organically. By deliberately building Merieke around tap-untap, I incidentally realized that I had a lot of enchantments, and most of my creatures had power 2 or less. I then improved the deck by emphasizing on those themes and adding cards that gave me value for playing around them. Tap-untap was a top-down design, while the other two themes were bottom-up.
I tend to gravitate towards token decks. Going wide and swinging with a massive field feels so good! Great video!
I absolutely adore aristocrats decks. I am literally playtesting my Teysa Karlov deck right now with some slight changes I made to it after getting the orzhov sleeves.
I seem to tend towards tribal decks, but I also like lands decks somewhat. This video also gave me an idea for my first Voltron deck, using Myriad mechanics to try to wipe out everyone in a multiplayer game in one turn once my commander is set up.
I love the aristocrat decks because it combines my two favorite things. Creating a ton of tokens and sacrificing things off for value. I just bought the Teysa Karlov deck and I’m really looking forward to playing it.
Why is nobody mentioning Spellslinger here ^^ I really love it
It may be mentioned in another episode 😉
Because it and storm can be cancer. The fact and Thousand Year Storm is a thing has given me MTG AIDS. Lol
I may be in the minority here (and I'm definitely in the minority within my own playgroup), but always have and always will love mill as an archetype. I have a U/B Phenax, God of Deception "Butts Matter" deck that I absolutely love playing in Commander.
As an archetype, I enjoy the challenge present in milling out ~400 cards before my 40 life is reduced to nothing. I also love how there are so many variations on the mill archetype: from creatures like Jace's Archivist that can Wheel or Windfall through everyone's decks quickly, to infinite mana combos fuelling X-costed draw spells like Blue Sun's Zenith, to the self-mill strategies based around Labratory Maniac or Psychic Spiral, to weird combos like the classic Painter's Servant + Grindstone, and so many more than even those.
I realize it gets a bad rap as archetypes go, but as far as I'm concerned the hate is unfair and overblown. Mill is such an interesting and engaging archetype that takes up a fair share of MTG cardboard from nearly the beginning of the game's existence. Anyway, rant over, and I look forward to hearing your take on Mill in a future 2 Cents episode, Mitch!
Why are you milling out your whole deck?
@@phoenixnest8044 In the self-mill archetype, there are alt win-cons in Labratory Maniac and/or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries. Both of those cards say "If you would draw a card while your library has no cards in it, you win the game instead". There are also different combos/synergies that benefit from self-milling for set up, such as with Psychic Spiral, Increasing Confusion, and Manic Scribe.
Depending on how you brew your deck, there are plenty of reasons to mill yourself instead of your opponents.
Interesting to play, not to play against. Mill gets a bad rap for the same reason prison does, it is not fun to be unable to play your cards. You can argue that one is worse than the other, but the reason for their dislike is the same. It can be very demoralizing to get hit by a few consuming aberration triggers in one turn and then have whatever you would played countered or otherwise dealt with due to the abundance of answers in the UB color pairing.
@@xindlepete8316 So your phenax deck is trying to self mill and mill your opponent at the same time?
@@phoenixnest8044 No, my Phenax deck is not built around self-mill. I only mentioned self-mill as one of the multiple sub-types of mill strategies, in general. I love the mill archetype as a whole, and was just expressing how many varieties of mill win-cons there are in the game.
My personal favorite has to be lands. There's just something so satisfying about dropping three lands a turn or tapping them for massive amounts of mana like "yeah I can cast an X spell for 13 because why not?" Even some of my favorite cards are lands like Dark Depths, Vesuva, Gaea's Cradle, Wasteland, Cabal's Coffers and Urborg so why not throw them all together?
I like overviews like this. To be fair, i like all of the commanders quarters contents 👌🏼
I love the creature type archetype.
Mono-white Angels is something I've always wanted, and as I'm asking it I need all the mana ramp I can. Baneslayer Angel was one of the first mythic rares I ever got and I really want to make a EDH angel deck with it.
Also mono-green infect... long story.
Great video Mitch! Love it, and would love to see more covered, such as stax. Videos like this will greatly help newcomers.
I am loving the variety of content you’re bringing to the channel.
My favorite archetype right now is tribal, where I built my deck around the Ur Dragon. It’s just such a heavy and fantastic deck to play.
Since you asked, among the archetypes that I gravitate towards is -- Toolbox Strategies. Commander/EDH is especially well formed for Toolbox because of it's singleton quality. In Toolbox, you want to a number of ways to tutor up cards or resources and a selection of "perfect tools" for various problems. This type of deck is highly interactive, tends to be very much "fair" magic, and is the "Judo" philosophy of magic, often using your opponents' game plans against them to each out incremental advantage.
My favorite archetype is one you didnt mention which I feel like it should: Reanimator/flicker, commanders that abuse ETBs from either reanimating them or flickering them. My main commander is Marchesa, The Black rose. Such a fun deck and is very resilient to creature removal. Then you have all the azorius and bant commanders that want you to flicker your creature's to abuse ETBs
'Life begins at 20' just posted a video- if he's back for awhile you to should colab on fave budget cards!
Aristocrats all the way. Black was always my go to color in commander and I made my first commander deck around Meren, with a decent amount of sacrificing, but obviously centered around value from recuring creatures. Next I made a Deck around my favourite Ravnica Character, Teysa and worked pretty well, but once Yawgmoth was announced, I found my forever favourite card in Commander xD
I know that it's probably not that great in Commander, but Spellslinger decks are my thing, cast a ton of things or draw a lot of cards always feels super great, also love your vids, i was able to get into Commander because of you and now its my favourite format
I focus on Voltron and Tribal the most. I'm working on my own Omnath, Locus of the Roil and going to be making your Feather, the Redeemed deck soon
Nice! Hope you enjoy it!
@@TheCommandersQuarters I love the Feather deck, I'm just waiting on an Omnath deck soon. My guess if you do it is elemental tribal and landfall
I have two decks I really like right now-one is an Aminatou deck that has a bunch of different ETB triggers and plays like a toolbox deck, and one is a Tasigur deck that plays politically and makes deals until it has accumulated enough advantage to win the game.
I'm waiting for my spotlight! Pillowfort and Spellslinger are my jam!
Based on my current decks, I would say my favorite archetype is reanimator. I have Gisa and Geralf as well as Chainer, Dementia Master decks, both of which like putting creatures in the yard to reap value.
My favorite decks are tribal. Current running a morophon dragon tribal deck and I love it
Nice!
I agree, all of my EDH decks are Tribal, from Golblins, Elves and even Defender.
I could never decide on what archetype to play, so I decided to play them all. Theme, tribal, midrange, group hug, lands, permission, aggro, jank, spell slinger, superfriends, I try to have each archetype represented at least once.
I’ve always loved combo, or tribal artifacts? Idk if that’s a thing but I adore artifact decks, being toolbox or combo. I also love big spell decks
Tribal is definitely my favourite, there’s something about a tribal theme that really gets me invested in the game ✨it tells a bit more of a story and has more flavour than a deck purely based on function imo
My favorite and most optimized deck is Edgar Markov vampires tribal.
Nice!
That’s a pretty good deck
Dope Video. I'm glad you are describing the archetypes and look forward to future installments of the archetype videos
My favorite archetype is chaos. I love every kind of content you put out, my dude. Keep it coming!
Ellis Griffin so your favorite way to play is to annoy others with no wincon. Got it.
@@matthewgoodman9366 im not just annoying others, im also annoying myself!
I love playing aristocrats, and I love it for my Meren deck! I love playing golgari and lots of the cards just synergies so well!
Good video. I like Zur as voltron and control, and Arcades for tribal and combo/aggro, same with Rin & Seri
I love Tribal and Voltron style decks. My two main decks are a Derevi Bird Tribal deck and a Samut, Voice of Dissent Thallid deck. I think I might run Gareth, Leonin Titan for a white Voltron deck, mainly because he can give himself protection from any color and is a powerful defender. Place Entangler on him, with all the other benefits of a Voltron deck, and you have a nearly unbreachable wall AND a killing force.
Aristocrats is super fun to play, but tribal decks are super cool too.
Why not both? Markov!
Tribal is my go-to strategy. The only true staple that wrecks your wallet is Cavern of Souls plus with Tribal, you can easily focus on sub-strategies since you won't have to think too much on your choice of creature spells.
I've been playing 5 color allies since the advent of EDH and when Tazri came out, I have to repeatedly show new playgroups that I don't run the degeneracy that is food chain.
Just made a Yawgmoth deck, loving it so far!
Nice video as always ! My favorite archetype is Colorless Bling stuff :D Maybe you can end this series with a special, presenting bad but fun archetypes like 'chair tribal', 'hat tribal' or 'oops, all ...'
I've just made a Sherei deck with shadowborn apostles. It's so cool when it gets going
I hesitate to call tribal an archetype. It's just a way to build any of the _actual_ archetypes. While tribal is certainly a _category_ of decks, knowing that your deck is tribal gives me little to no information about its actual strategy. For instance, wizard tribal is often Control or Combo, but it could easily be Aggro or Midrange. Wizards are just the means to the end of realizing an archetypal strategy. Similarly, an aristocrats deck can be Aggro, Midrange, Control, or Combo.
The same thing can be said of "lands matter", superfriends, tokens, and all the rest. Even Voltron, which is _likely_ Aggro, could easily be one of the others. At best, one might say that some of these are sub-archetypes.
Cant wait 4 Mitch to talk about Midrange decks
My favourite archetype is definitely aristocrat, Teysa is just too good
cool topic to talk about. I like aggresive deck, but I've been looking more for graveyard decks
Zombie (with a hint of aristocrat) tribal! Originally based off your scarab god deck, but I’m interested in making it into a varina deck to not only have her benefits but also to be able to run exile effects since my playgroup seems to love indestructible.
I would love to see a varina deck tech from you with the new budget!
I do a sort of aristocratic style with my Freyalise deck. Tap a dork, sac that dork, draw a bunch of cards as a result, or play a massive spell from just that one mana dork's sacrifice. It's fun and funny because I made a reputation for myself of killing people with a massive elven army out of nowhere in my playgroup, so now people are confused when they see me sacrificing that very army to do other things "outside my element"
I want to throw some Aristocrats love onto Marchesa, the Black Rose. She was my first commander deck and still my favorite.
I'm loving this series already...
One of my favorite archetypes is oops all spells. It can quite a lot of fun and can throw opponents for a loop. :)
I love me some control most, but I also enjoy tokeny/agro decks that attack all the time. Favorite commanders are Thassa (great consitancy with the scry and people kinda forget shes there until you end the game with some unblockable big thing) and Derevi (Built him as agro. It's not the usual way I see this built, but it's hella fun. A focus on little flying tokens(spirits are great) and draw on combat damage cards like bident of thassa, coastal piracy, or edric.)
Great explanations! Loving this new series.
I've always wanted to build an aristocrats deck, but could never get it right - I finally made one with Ghaves, Guru of Spores that is also saproling / fungus tribal, and it's been a lot of fun.
My favorite decks are ones that combine archetypes. For example, my Aryel deck is Knight-tribal with both Voltron and Taxes subthemes.
The other archetype I really enjoy is "warping" the expectation of the game. This can come in the form of makign "card draw" kill you ala Nekusar, the Mindrazer or simply making combat damage or combo effects very hard with cards like Angus Mackenzie & ghost quarter or Strangelhold & Aven Mindsensor
I love decks that "cheat" other cards into play like Jodah, Sisay and Golos. I call it snapping cards into play cause they cost WUBRG
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Whatever the archetype may be, I always prefer creature strategies. My latest build is Kykar, Wind's Fury token/spellslinger, I primarily win by controlling the pace of board and protecting myself until I can go off and start knocking players out with tokens!
Nice!
My weakness is building only Tribal decks 😂. Minotaur, Wolves, Sea Monsters, Vampires, Beasts...... it’s a problem haha
Is it a weakness...or are you just the Tribal master? Haha
The Commander's Quarters ..... definitely not a master haha. Just an addict.
Same. I dont see it as weakness, I see it as flavorful
Shu-Yun triggers off noncreatures, so playing equipment is a trigger! Also, using his ability on an oponents creature leads to some really cool politics and interactions
It's a tough call, but I really enjoy Lands and Aristocrats the most. The commanders I play are Golos and Teysa Karlov, respectively.
my favorite is spellslinger and reanimator. Spellslinger can also be called storm but it doesn't always have to be a storm deck. Reanimator is great with cards like Alesha and Sidisi who both do different things for the strategy.
I'm more of an Aristocrat. And my favorite Commander is God-Eternal Bontu because I get to sacrifice not only creatures but even lands if I have to.
Really great video -- can't wait for part 2.
Really appreciate all the work you put in Mitch, love your content! Would really enjoy to see a Sidisi, Brood Tyrant deck tech if you get a chance 😁
Mine has gotta be bant +1/+1 counters, with Jenara, Asura of war at the helm. Super flexible, easy to pivot it from going tall to going wide, and is just a ton of fun. I really liked playing Alesha, Who Smiles at Death, but I like Jenara's playstyle the best because all of the creatures in my deck feels great to play, no dead hands really, not to mention jusy how free-form Jenara is as a commander.
Tribal is the archetype most people start with and is awesome. My personal favorite though is aristocrat. Teysa karlov is my love.
"Tool box commanders" and "reanimation", my Muldrotha deck is a good example of doing both!
My three decks are Kumena, Gitrog and Yawgmoth, so my favorites are tribal, lands and aristocrats!
Nice video! tomorrow the last cards for the Yarok deck i bought right after your video will arrive, cant wait to play it soon =)
i tend to gravitate towards aristocrats decks with high value like meren or muldrotha. sometimes artifact graveyard is fun as well.
I love tribal but aristocrats is my favourite kind of deck, my Edgar Markov deck kinda does both things, but I have to keep looking for more tribal-aristocrat action!
I'm struggling with my Judith. I feel like the limitation of only non-token creatures is hampering my style.
Meanwhile, I am a super fan of elf tribal. My first edh deck is Nath of the Gilt Leaf, and it's such a nice go-wide army. And when things go awry, you can just generate too much mana and Exsanguinate your opponents. I ❤️ elves.
My current decks are Brudiclad, Teysa Karlov, Feather (blink theme, not Voltron), General Tazri (Ally tribal), Sisay, Weatherlight Captain (Legendaries tribal I guess), and Phenax (mill)
My first deck was an Arabho cat tribal. I guess I gravitate toward a tribal theme but I have a bit of everything
I run a slimefoot aristocrat commander deck. That is one of my favorite decks to run. But I also run a lot of tribal decks like gishath, and a sorin, vengeful bloodlord oathbreaker vampire deck. I also have a ninja modern deck, that one is a ton of fun.
Tribal! Tribal all the way! Literally all of my decks are tribal: Minotaurs, Wurms, Heroic Humans, Hydras, Beasts, Krakens, Zombies, Walls, Demons, Slivers, Griffon, Angel, Bird, Dragon, Goblin, and Cat. Those are all of my decks spread between my commander and modern collection. Of course with sleeves and boxes to match each one.
I have Athreos and Yawgmoth commander decks, so you can guess whats my favorite archetype ..😏😏
Yes, elves. We get it.