Why Your Deck Doesn't Click (It's Not Your Fault) | Commander | Magic: the Gathering
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 เม.ย. 2024
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I'm glad someone else recognized the lack of Ooze tribal. We need more big voices like this pointing that out.
this is why i always lean into a theme as much as possible. build for fun, play for win.
I see this a LOT. It's hard convincing a player their deck doesn't have the theme they think it does.
The "you are tapped out and cannot counter my call to action" bit was really funy u got me there🤣
Hidetsugu and Kairi are a really excellent example of this. I would imagine they were meant to be a spellslinger deck which accounts for 40 of the 1987 decks i see right now. But i started building it and was like "wow, how is this the best clone commander"
This is far from the intended purpose of the video, but it did further solidify my belief that optimizing a deck doesn't necessarily make it more fun. Sure, you can get infinite turns with Tivit and Time Seive, but to me the voting mechanic would be more fun, even if its objectively weaker.
You hit the nail on the head with Shelob. I built her as a spider tribal deck. But, the more you play with her, the more you realize...you wsnt more fight spells, and less boring spiders. I think i've found a good balance, but it still pulls me towards less spiders the more i play.
This might be your best video yet, Joey! I love listening to you talk through some great EDH topics, and this was a very clever topic with a smart discussion. Very illuminating, thank you!
This isn't even limited to card designs, but actual mechanics. Flicker, bounce, and reanimation all seem like some form of evasion to diversify interaction, but in practice are just methods to trigger your own ETBs more.
Well said, Joey. The Kalamax bit hit home…. I just wanted to sling spells in Temur. Wish me luck with new Riku!
Still weird that they didn't put the "once per turn" clause on Stella Lee since it's so prominent on cards in OTJ.
Great thoughts Joey. This is why I tend towards commanders that are less popular, trying to make something unique and fun. It’s pretty cool when after a game another player tells you “Wow, what a neat deck idea.” Easier said than done, but I think the challenge is worth it.
I think a big part of the problem is that when wizards print a commander for a niche deck type like spider tribal for example, the reward that the commander gives for playing spiders is underwhelming and just not viable for a lot of tables
Omg, the Tivit conversation is word by word what I went through. I won the Esper Precon in a raffle, and wanted to build a voting deck around Tivit as soon I saw the card. Then, didn't really enjoy the 17 voting cards at the time available to Esper. So I went for Spark Double, Sakashimas and bunch of blink pieces. I omitted Time Sieve because it is stupid imo for a casual pod. (I play Tivit in cEDH as well, and there it is very close to the usual top16 lists-with Time Sieve and Thoracle Consult ofc.) Highlights in my casual Tivit list inclue Tezerret, Master of the Bridge, Kappa Cannoneer, Cyberdrive Awakener, Kitten, etc.
I love the fact that the first two examples you named are decks I own. I didn't get to edit Stella Lee yet, but I'm pretty sure my Tivit desk is actually "politics & control" and not "blink & artifacts"
Excellent deep dive on a very real problem, Joey! Chefs kiss.
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This is probably my favorite conversation that I have seen on magic analysis in a long while, Thank you.
Honestly, hearing you bring up Tivit and Shelob means so much to this lil player. Both were commanders I was so excited for, as I love voting and I love spiders, and both are just underminded by their arguably more powerful effect. And while I have certainly tried building Tivit as a voting commander, the player base for Magic just... won't let that happen. You mention it in part 1, but I really must stress how I go to my local game store events, I flip over Tivit to play, and they immediately all think of Time Sieve and the like. I can't play funny haha Tivit, because he just doesn't have that identity.