Totally agree, it's hard to hear him beat up on himself when he was easily the best actor on the show, playing the most compelling character. He is INCREDIBLE in this scene!!
"Of course...everyone can trust Clark Kent, you're the perfect son!" Best acting moment, you can feel Lex's inner struggle and conflict about how unfair things are and how he has been mislead by everyone around him while at the same time trying to justify his crime.
So why did Jonathan Kent always seem so stressed? I mean was raising the perfect son really that much work? I wonder how much of a strain it put on his heart. Rosenbaum nailed the character of Lex Luthor in Smallville.
Rosenbaum is perfect, but when Welling comes back with "Are you blaming me" I have to fight the urge to laugh a little. I love Welling, but sometimes he's not the best.@@mammaboy1
He was stressed because he wanted to protect Clark but he was completely outside the realm of being able to protect him from most things. He wanted to balance Clark's life so he could become a good man and understand the struggles humans have. He also insisted on doing farm work like his father and grandfather did as tradition. We can see in the early seasons that Clark could do all the work in the farm but Jonathan doesn't allow it. Clark could just tell him he's not perfect and Jonathan was a very hard worker who overdid himself sometimes. Rosenbaum was right about the lines though. Clark just says one line or two and it's his response to a minute or two of Lex being right.
And lex became his father slowly as the episodes progressed he even killed his own father just like he killed his own but what can you expect its his father
mthakore Not really, Clark had good points to. Lex at this point has been driven by power and control to the point where he manipulated and murdered anyone to satisfy his own quest to be a savior.
TheMegaUzumaki Yeah, I mean, he killed a clone of his brother for wanting to have a normal life, and he murdered Tess out of some twisted sense of "heroism." I mean, let's face it, the name Luthor may not necessarily be evil, but the people associated with it are rather twisted.
Micheal Mah'moud Problem is that Clark assumes that everyone should trust him and not trust anyone else. These two were brothers in all but blood, their main issue was that neither trusted each other enough to keep each others’ secrets. If the both of them had been straight even after Clark saved lex from the mob boss and asked Lex NOT to reveal his secret, do you really think he wouldn’t? All Lex wanted to do was understand Clark and have the true brother he never had, Clark just never had enough faith in people to reveal his secret beyond any accidental encounters where he was forced to them, i.e. Chloe, Pete, Swann, etc.
@@ethrsag735 I get what you're saying, but Clark never pretended to be Lex's friend. He was his friend, the first one Lex ever had, and that's what makes how they end up so much more tragic.
Emily Escott I never said that he pretended, I said that he didn’t trust him, just as he didn’t trust anyone else outside the family unless something forced his hand.
Wow, totally incredible performance there from Rosenbaum. So much going on with his expressions, his voice. Such a great actor, greatest Lex Luthor of all time.
Yeah even when he's suggesting Clark might be responsible for his dad's early death. It's like it hurts him to say something hurtful to Clark. I like that
Man, Lex truly has passed the point of no return. Both he and Clark have made so many bad decisions, and look where it's gotten them at this point. And using Jonathan's death against Clark....that's crossing a line. Man, Rosenbaum should be the new live-action Lex.
Just like Clark saying Lionel was a better father to Clark because he trusts him … it’s like Clark completely forgot how much of a horrific father Lionel was to Lex and how no matter what Lex did his father always stabbed him in the back over and over. Answering him like that was an insult in which Lex returned in favor.
If anyone of you remember the episode when Jonathan died, you know Clark really is the one to blame for his death and I think deep down, he knew that. Lex just brought up that guilt hence Clark's extreme reaction.
That's not what he's talking about though... outside of the Lana death event Lex is suggesting there was a growing stress about Clark and his promised greatness that was slowly killing him anyway
They seem to forget that it wasn't just stress that made Jonathan had the heart attack. It was when Jonathan took on Kryptonian Powers that wore down his body and made his heart worse that was susceptible to a heart attack.
Clark forced Jonathan to take powers from Jor-El when went on a Red K rampage so yes it is Clark’s fault to an extent. Johnathan beating the crap out of Lionel didn’t help either.
Imagine if LEx and Clark actually became friends again in this episode. I mean Clark did see how Lionel treated him. Maybe Clark Luthor would have been friends with this Lex.
@@KentPetersonmoneyNo, Lex had to go to jail for what he did and Clark would see to that. Lex was already far too gone by this point, he killed his father in cold blood.
This wasn’t another “Clark talks to Lex” scene, this was straight up “Superman VS Luthor”. Probably the only scene we ever got of these two full in-character (minus the suits), of how they usually confront each other in the comics. A battle of morality and wits.
Just like Clark saying Lionel was a better father to Clark because he trusts him … it’s like Clark completely forgot how much of a horrific father Lionel was to Lex and how no matter what Lex did his father always stabbed him in the back over and over. Answering him like that was an insult in which Lex returned in favor.
He wanted to be the hero of the story. He thought he was the hero of the story. Then he found out the person he thought was his best friend had an incredible secret that diminished Lex. Something broke. Possibly the best characterization of Lex Luthor as an incredibly gifted but incredibly wounded person in all of the Superman mythos.
@@johnmcgreevey7795 It dose suck when your friend doesn't share a secret like that with you. I wouldn't pressure him. I mean Clark could have told Lex then Lex could have gotten beaten up or killed trying to protect Clark secret. Clark would have felt guilty then. He felt he needed to tell Pete because he was about to expose his ship that he found. Guess he figured if Pete knew who he was he wouldn't want to expose the spaceship anymore. Chole found out about his powers so he figured he might as well tell her he's an alien. He was in a serious relationship with Lana so he needed to tell her especially if they got married. I mean imagine if Clark had kids with her then their 5 year old kid punch a grown man into the ribs breaking them, or if they threw and other kid several feet on the playground. Lana would wonder how their kid so strong. So the reason he never told Lex secret because he didn't really feel he needed to. Now if they would have stayed friends for a couple more seasons I think Clark would have told him his secret. Lex did have a lot of resources so he would have been a big help to Clark.
this scene is intense my fav seasons are season 1-7 the other seasons have fun moments comic refrences but 1-7 has the most powerful moments and episodes like this scene.
TechNOGeek Reviews Seasons 1-7 have the story of Clark's background and the characters were developed so deeply... 8 - 10 had more action... I agree with you GG-
"I tried to be your friend, Lex. But all you cared about was power and control". And all YOU cared about was keeping your secret, Clark. Lex isn't the only one to blame for their friendship falling apart. I hope other people realize that. If the both of them had just been honest with each other from the beginning, their friendship wouldn't have failed. You cannot build a friendship on lies and secrets. I know this is a TV show, but seriously, anybody with half a brain can figure this out. I blame both of them for their failed friendship
I agree but at the same time, Lex seemed to manipulate and obsessed with knowledge and jealous of Clark's life, which end up leading to his being evil as well
+Taylor Lange Lex gave Clark many reasons not to trust him (Lex). Not the other way around..for the most part. If Clark had told Lex his secret from the start, Lex probably would have destroyed the world by season 5. Sometimes we need to turn away from the people we know because the negatives outweigh the good. That's one of the harsh realities of life. In any case, do you tell your friends everything about you? I'm talking about your deep dark secrets. I don't.
+Taylor Lange I agree with you but from the beginning Lex is destined to be a bad guy, so eventually their friendship would become twisted and mangled, to the point where Lex's unstable personality, and Clark's character flaws would collide.
There was always a sliver of truth in everything that Lex would do/say. That's what made him a compelling character. I mean he tells it like it is with Johnathan and his heart related to Clark. That has fallout all the way back from S3 with Exile.
goddamnit, Smallville could be so good sometimes. It had spectacular moments and some stand-out episodes. I even think most of season 8, 9 and 10 were great. But man, it had long stretches of mediocrity and just plain stupid stories so often. I wish it could be as good as this scene through more of this show.
Lex was a good kid who had terrible upbringing, no one loved him and no one trusted him just because of his name, despite his good intentions, his constant effort to help others and even his cries for help towards Clark when he felt that he was crossing over to the dark side that Clark thoroughly ignored. It is common for people who don't have love to substitute it with hunger for power and Lex was no exception. Seeing for years just how indifferent everyone was to his best efforts, he finally gave up on them. Clark was a mean character, destined to be a tyrant on earth but had love and good upbringing that quieted his dark side. By season 2 Lex trusted pretty much every secret he had to Clark. Had Clark done the same, their friendship would have changed the face of the earth!
Khaos768 Yeah, he did try to help others on several occasions, such as helping Jonathan and Martha keep the farm. But you have to admit, a lot of his methods were questionable at best, immoral at worse. I mean, experimenting on human beings, coercing public officials, polluting the water supply....he had good ideas, but very bad execution. Clark gave him multiple chances to do the right thing, but his unhealthy curiosity and his inferiority complex just made him sink deeper and deeper until there was no way out. Yes, Clark had a big hand in Lex's downfall, but Lex was just as equally responsible if not more so.
Well, Lex was right for wrong reasons (or at least he was partially right about reasons). All evidence points to Clark as major factor in death of his father in so many ways. Well, obviously having to hide Clark secret and deal with all the crazy things in Smallville that Clark dealt with would be stressful on it's own. However, it was Clarks decision to run away while wearing red kryptonite ring that prompted Jonathan to make a deal with Jor El that appeared to strain his heart to the point he suffered heart attack. Even further it was Klark deal with Jor El that lead to final nail in the coffin (mind you Clark at this point was aware of life for life rule) and lead to Jonathan death. Three his final heart attack was suffered because Lionel appeared to control Clark and know about his secret, which got Jonathan worked up to protect Clark leading to his heart attack. So in a lot of ways not only Clark presence In Jonathan put a lot of stress on him and strain on his heart (naturally and not) but also Clarks decision to alter course of event lead to his father death.
They really did make Lex too "right" by accident I think. Lex always knew there was more going on (because he had fucking eyes) and Clark was always so obviously lying about it. And we know from earlier seasons that Lex would keep Clark's secret if he knew - he got his literal brain fried keeping Clark's secret, and Clark LET HIM get his brain fried, and then a few eps later was mad at Lex for trying to get his memories back - like wtf, how are were we supposed to see Clark as in the right there?
Except they didn't. Lex did start with good intentions, but eventually it changed to his wants and needs before everyone else. Yes, but Lex could have just appreciated Clark's friendship. He didn't and kept crossing lines to get the truth. Clark didn't let him get his mind wiped. He broke in to Belle Reve to stop it, but failed. As for Lex trying to get Lex memory back, yeah, Clark was being selfish there.
“THIS IS *SMALLVILLE!* ” I think that’s one of Micheal’s best lines of the show, possibly one of the greatest in the show itself. The way he delivers it too like that’s a taste of the Lex Luthor that Superman will face off against in the near future. Even the line about Clark’s dad was so dark, you could see Lex tear up about it, like he envied Jonathan Kent’s love for Clark, he looked up to him more than his his own father. He tried so desperately to make The Kent’s see he wasn’t his dad and he was genuinely just a good man seeking the truth. It hurt him so much that Clark lied to him for years and kept lying even though he knew Lex was too smart not to know. It’s hard to keep secrets but it hurts even more when it’s your friends who are the ones lying straight to your face In my honest opinion Micheal Rosenbaum is the best live action portrayal of Lex Luthor so far. He’s unmatched, he gave such an incredible and different origin for one of the greatest supervillains of all time
Uhhh no Lex was destined to be who he was regardless .... same with Clark. The main reasons Clark hid his true self was because Lex couldn’t be trusted which was evident and he was always taught to hide who he really was to protect himself by his parents. Towards the end of the show he did have 2 personas tho. It was destiny it doesn’t matter what happened Lex is Lex and Clark is Clark
@NOT YOU Drastic measures? He was manipulating and hurting people. You can't lay that on someone because they were secretive and excuse the guy doing it. Yeah, but so did Lex. Left him alone? Lex was the one who was obsessed with Clark and entered his life.
Such an amazing scene. Lex tries one last time indirectly telling Clark to stop lying to him, and Clark still spits in his face once more. You can see the utter pain and desperation in Lex’s eyes and voice, he is afraid to lose himself completely, which he does after this scene. All Clark’s lies is what made Lex a bad person.
I know I’m meant to be on Clarke’s side, but with how much he gaslit Lex, I was rooting for him 😂. Lex reaching his breaking point after all this time was epic.
I know it would have drastically altered the storyline but it legit makes me mad every time clark lies to lex. EVERY SINGLE TIME he lies to lex. It makes me so mad. They could have been good friends but clark built their relationship on lies and that's why lex lies to clark. Clark was supposed to be lex's first smallville friend. I'm rewatching smallville because I loved it when I was younger but most things Clark does actually make me mad as an adult. Clark does nothing but lie. Still my favorite actor for superman but wow.
@@parkerboy795 I'm not sure if I just didnt see a notification or its because I wasn't tagged so sorry this is two months late. The most annoying part about this show is that clark constantly thinks its wrong for other people to lie but he is constantly lying as well. When I was younger and first watched Smallville I never noticed a lot of these things like drinking, one night stands, lying, etc but now as an adult I can't rewatch a single episode without seeing someone drinking or lying lol. I still like this show but its not as great as I remember. I was more annoyed about how often clark lies to people. Also there are parts of this show that don't make sense. Like when clark decided to not be honest with lana after, "going back in time to before he told her and gave her the ring he made".. then eventually he told her anyway and the show made it seem like the reason he didnt tell her was because he still didnt think shed accept him. The script writers jumped around and forgot what they formerly wrote I guess.
@@DaWorldOwner Clark didn't always practice what he preached, but neither did Lex. Especially bad in Lex's case considering the evil things he did. But if you're really annoyed by the melodrama in the show, remember the channel it was on thrived on melodrama. And yeah, the show wasn't really consistent all the time.
Lex's inferiority complex was bubbling up even before Clark became Superman. I'm still peeved that the Lex Luthor we got in the finale onward wasn't even the real Lex, but a freaking clone!
The man is on the brink of fully turning evil here. If Clark had told him everything, if Clark hadn't pushed him away...who knows what woud've happened.
Matthew Davis Yea, and the baby's to. When he blew up the ship and made their car crash when martha was pregnant. Then when Jonathan was forced to take on Powers to get Clark back....Clark is the last to blame someone.
Matthew Davis While Clarke is Not a model character, which is one of the many brilliances of this show, he does his best to do the right thing for the right reasons. Now, while the show does good to make the audience empathize with Lex, he is not a good person and does things for the betterment of himself.
tysswe1 once that happened it ruined Clark for me in a way and Clark could have told lex his secret not lied to him and Lionel loved Clark more then lex and Lionels abuse on lex
No Clark, you were never friends with him. He loved you more than anything you just were unable to see who he really is. Friends don't hide their true nature.
It's hard to tell if things could have been different if Clark have trusted Lex with the secret. On one hand, it was Clark friendship that helped heals part of the traumas Lex had because his relationship with his father; on other hand, it was mistrust of Clark on not telling him that makes Lex obssess about the meteor showers and symbols. He felt betrayed and abandoned by the one he saw as his true brother. Someone who could even helped him with that mysteries he was so eager to find out more about.
You really can understand Lexs point of view in this argument.. I mean his actions are inexcusable, but you really can understand how jaded he is. Rosenbaum was really the best Lex Luther by far
Honestly the relationship Lex has with Clark in Smallville would make for such an interesting idea for canon stories or at least alternate universes. Them being friends first only makes it that much more tragic. And if only Clark had trusted him maybe Lex would be different.
They have done stuff were Lex and Superman were friends. There even a period were Lex was a good guy and was part of the Justice league. Then he went back to being a bad guy. Now he sort of kind of middle. He in prison and he turned lexcorp over to Superman and is now working with him inside of prison. However I think there an angle Lex working but don't know what is yet.
Clark was right. Lex used all those things as excuses to get power and control. He can't tell the difference between protecting people and ruling them.
If you listen to Michael's podcast he can be so hard on himself. Dude doesn't realize how badass and talented he is. Hollywood can be so delusional.
Totally agree, it's hard to hear him beat up on himself when he was easily the best actor on the show, playing the most compelling character. He is INCREDIBLE in this scene!!
He is very talented.
what happened? he did no make money?
@@sarabeeinKC We have to send him some love dude earned that.
Artists are like that. Their harshest critics are themselves.
"Who's delusional now?" "I HAVE PROOF" Rosenbaum's face, at that very moment. perfect
the face of a guilty man about to get caught
So perfect
Loved that too. Had to watch it a few times. The best lex Luther.
what proof? I forgot
@@elitetraders2316 the picture
"Of course...everyone can trust Clark Kent, you're the perfect son!"
Best acting moment, you can feel Lex's inner struggle and conflict about how unfair things are and how he has been mislead by everyone around him while at the same time trying to justify his crime.
Mike never got his due. The man is one of the most underrated talents to ever grace the screen.
James Gunn (The new Co-CEO of DC) went onto Michael Rosembaum’s podcast and said he was the best Lex. I hope that at least says something!
That vein on Lex's head is epic AF
Thought it was gonna pop off when i watched this scene the first time, haha.
Absolutely, the stress really got to MR.
Rosenbaum must have quit when his contract expired to avoid nicking that vein when shaving his head.
@@whyisblue923taken what do balds to with those veins
Rosenbaum absolutely kills it in every single scene goddamn
So why did Jonathan Kent always seem so stressed? I mean was raising the perfect son really that much work? I wonder how much of a strain it put on his heart. Rosenbaum nailed the character of Lex Luthor in Smallville.
mehul speedy don’t we are know it
Rosenbaum is perfect, but when Welling comes back with "Are you blaming me" I have to fight the urge to laugh a little. I love Welling, but sometimes he's not the best.@@mammaboy1
He was stressed because he wanted to protect Clark but he was completely outside the realm of being able to protect him from most things. He wanted to balance Clark's life so he could become a good man and understand the struggles humans have. He also insisted on doing farm work like his father and grandfather did as tradition. We can see in the early seasons that Clark could do all the work in the farm but Jonathan doesn't allow it.
Clark could just tell him he's not perfect and Jonathan was a very hard worker who overdid himself sometimes. Rosenbaum was right about the lines though. Clark just says one line or two and it's his response to a minute or two of Lex being right.
I'm speechless, this scene is so good and both of them nailed it
The blue shirt and red jacket is such a good nod to the superman costume
Well said.
All it was missing is an S on his shirt
He spent the majority of the show in a red and blue shirt-jacket combo.
Michael Rosenbaum is brilliant!
ShadesAtKnight and my favorite lex Luther
The only lex luthor
This version of Lex Luthor versus Heath Ledger Joker
"Maybe he just knew he could trust me" that was the worst thing you couldve said to him, Clark
Yeah but he doesn't lie. So.
And lex became his father slowly as the episodes progressed he even killed his own father just like he killed his own but what can you expect its his father
Clark was upset with him, normally he wouldn't say it.
@@PeterParker-uf7zlthey changed fates and it was so sad to see.
He should’ve gotten an Emmy nomination for “THIS IS SMALLVILE”
True but we know the Emmy hate comic book movies.
THIS... IS... SMALLVILLE!!!!!!!! (Lex tries to kick Clark in the guts)
Looking back on this conversation, Lex was actually right about everything.
mthakore Not really, Clark had good points to. Lex at this point has been driven by power and control to the point where he manipulated and murdered anyone to satisfy his own quest to be a savior.
TheMegaUzumaki Yeah, I mean, he killed a clone of his brother for wanting to have a normal life, and he murdered Tess out of some twisted sense of "heroism." I mean, let's face it, the name Luthor may not necessarily be evil, but the people associated with it are rather twisted.
Micheal Mah'moud Problem is that Clark assumes that everyone should trust him and not trust anyone else. These two were brothers in all but blood, their main issue was that neither trusted each other enough to keep each others’ secrets. If the both of them had been straight even after Clark saved lex from the mob boss and asked Lex NOT to reveal his secret, do you really think he wouldn’t? All Lex wanted to do was understand Clark and have the true brother he never had, Clark just never had enough faith in people to reveal his secret beyond any accidental encounters where he was forced to them, i.e. Chloe, Pete, Swann, etc.
@@ethrsag735 I get what you're saying, but Clark never pretended to be Lex's friend. He was his friend, the first one Lex ever had, and that's what makes how they end up so much more tragic.
Emily Escott I never said that he pretended, I said that he didn’t trust him, just as he didn’t trust anyone else outside the family unless something forced his hand.
Think about this Rosenbaum was probably cracking jokes between takes in such a serious scene as this.
He strikes me as the type who'd have a whoopee cushion handy
I can imagine him making "This is Sparta" jokes during some of the takes.
Rosenbaum ruled as lex outstanding job i got hooked on the show because of him
Wow, totally incredible performance there from Rosenbaum. So much going on with his expressions, his voice. Such a great actor, greatest Lex Luthor of all time.
He is the best Lex. The goat
He should have had a nom for a emmy for that performance.
Well said.
Damn Lex looks like he's about to start crying.
Because he was
He was stabbed in the back
@@StarWars_Channel2024 He was not, lol..
Yeah even when he's suggesting Clark might be responsible for his dad's early death. It's like it hurts him to say something hurtful to Clark. I like that
@@Onigirli clark ended there friendship and didn't help him
1:05 This line hit so hard… the buildup to their relationship’s fall from grace… god, I miss Smallville.
Man, Lex truly has passed the point of no return. Both he and Clark have made so many bad decisions, and look where it's gotten them at this point. And using Jonathan's death against Clark....that's crossing a line. Man, Rosenbaum should be the new live-action Lex.
Just like Clark saying Lionel was a better father to Clark because he trusts him … it’s like Clark completely forgot how much of a horrific father Lionel was to Lex and how no matter what Lex did his father always stabbed him in the back over and over. Answering him like that was an insult in which Lex returned in favor.
If anyone of you remember the episode when Jonathan died, you know Clark really is the one to blame for his death and I think deep down, he knew that. Lex just brought up that guilt hence Clark's extreme reaction.
That's not what he's talking about though... outside of the Lana death event Lex is suggesting there was a growing stress about Clark and his promised greatness that was slowly killing him anyway
One of the most powerful scenes in any tv show, even to this day! Incredible performances, with wonderful lighting & an incredible all round crew.
The finale in season 10 is a pretty epic scene as well.
They seem to forget that it wasn't just stress that made Jonathan had the heart attack. It was when Jonathan took on Kryptonian Powers that wore down his body and made his heart worse that was susceptible to a heart attack.
Clark forced Jonathan to take powers from Jor-El when went on a Red K rampage so yes it is Clark’s fault to an extent. Johnathan beating the crap out of Lionel didn’t help either.
Listen to yourself both of you just delusional fanatics
Descent. Lionel's literal descent from the window but also Lex's final descent into darkness
ALSO there's a third layer-- descent refers to lineage, "descendent", the son comes from the father. Such an incredible title!
Imagine if LEx and Clark actually became friends again in this episode. I mean Clark did see how Lionel treated him. Maybe Clark Luthor would have been friends with this Lex.
@@KentPetersonmoneyNo, Lex had to go to jail for what he did and Clark would see to that. Lex was already far too gone by this point, he killed his father in cold blood.
Every time this scene pops up on my page I just have to watch it.
This wasn’t another “Clark talks to Lex” scene, this was straight up “Superman VS Luthor”.
Probably the only scene we ever got of these two full in-character (minus the suits), of how they usually confront each other in the comics. A battle of morality and wits.
Damn the acting with these two so powerful
I half expected Lex to say: "THIS IS SPARTA!"
Just like Clark saying Lionel was a better father to Clark because he trusts him … it’s like Clark completely forgot how much of a horrific father Lionel was to Lex and how no matter what Lex did his father always stabbed him in the back over and over. Answering him like that was an insult in which Lex returned in favor.
They both act really well.
Even though this Lex is evil i think what he really needs is a hug. If anyone doesn't agree then that is okay.
I agree, he wasn't always evil, he was broken
He wanted to be the hero of the story. He thought he was the hero of the story. Then he found out the person he thought was his best friend had an incredible secret that diminished Lex. Something broke. Possibly the best characterization of Lex Luthor as an incredibly gifted but incredibly wounded person in all of the Superman mythos.
@@johnmcgreevey7795 It dose suck when your friend doesn't share a secret like that with you. I wouldn't pressure him. I mean Clark could have told Lex then Lex could have gotten beaten up or killed trying to protect Clark secret. Clark would have felt guilty then. He felt he needed to tell Pete because he was about to expose his ship that he found. Guess he figured if Pete knew who he was he wouldn't want to expose the spaceship anymore. Chole found out about his powers so he figured he might as well tell her he's an alien. He was in a serious relationship with Lana so he needed to tell her especially if they got married. I mean imagine if Clark had kids with her then their 5 year old kid punch a grown man into the ribs breaking them, or if they threw and other kid several feet on the playground. Lana would wonder how their kid so strong. So the reason he never told Lex secret because he didn't really feel he needed to. Now if they would have stayed friends for a couple more seasons I think Clark would have told him his secret. Lex did have a lot of resources so he would have been a big help to Clark.
Bringing up Johnathan Kent was a low blow
January 1st, 2020 and I'm still holding on to Smallville. What a great fucking show
this scene is intense my fav seasons are season 1-7 the other seasons have fun moments comic refrences but 1-7 has the most powerful moments and episodes like this scene.
TechNOGeek Reviews Seasons 1-7 have the story of Clark's background and the characters were developed so deeply... 8 - 10 had more action... I agree with you
GG-
I fully agree with you. sadly they switch writers mid season 8 & obviously Lex isn’t in them either:(
If Smallville was worthy of Emmy award nominations Michael would have a shelf full of them for best actor in a drama series
"I tried to be your friend, Lex. But all you cared about was power and control". And all YOU cared about was keeping your secret, Clark. Lex isn't the only one to blame for their friendship falling apart. I hope other people realize that. If the both of them had just been honest with each other from the beginning, their friendship wouldn't have failed. You cannot build a friendship on lies and secrets. I know this is a TV show, but seriously, anybody with half a brain can figure this out. I blame both of them for their failed friendship
I agree but at the same time, Lex seemed to manipulate and obsessed with knowledge and jealous of Clark's life, which end up leading to his being evil as well
+educhi1989 VM ok ok.
+Taylor Lange Lex gave Clark many reasons not to trust him (Lex). Not the other way around..for the most part. If Clark had told Lex his secret from the start, Lex probably would have destroyed the world by season 5. Sometimes we need to turn away from the people we know because the negatives outweigh the good. That's one of the harsh realities of life. In any case, do you tell your friends everything about you? I'm talking about your deep dark secrets. I don't.
+Taylor Lange I agree with you but from the beginning Lex is destined to be a bad guy, so eventually their friendship would become twisted and mangled, to the point where Lex's unstable personality, and Clark's character flaws would collide.
Lex never would've had good intentions anyway.. He was always power hungry
Still a better Superman story than Man of Steel and Dawn of Justice combined.
True!
Facts!
Well no shit Sherlock, this show had 10 season with 45 minute episodes. Man of steel was legendary. I love smallville too.
Somehow yes, it is sad.
Better than superman returns
There was always a sliver of truth in everything that Lex would do/say. That's what made him a compelling character. I mean he tells it like it is with Johnathan and his heart related to Clark. That has fallout all the way back from S3 with Exile.
@TheUzumakiSpiral - Lying dumbfuck🤣🤣🤣 You've got issues man. Getting laid once in awhile will do wonders for those anger issues. Best of luck. 👍
Hands down best scene between them
You can hear Clark's mind zig-zagging like a pinball in this scene. "Must....defend myself...against words of actual truth..."
Micheal is such a underated actor
Two great actors from a great tv series 😊😊😊
0:44-1:00 that song always hits me
Any idea what that song's title is? I've been trying to find it but to no avail thus far.
goddamnit, Smallville could be so good sometimes. It had spectacular moments and some stand-out episodes. I even think most of season 8, 9 and 10 were great. But man, it had long stretches of mediocrity and just plain stupid stories so often. I wish it could be as good as this scene through more of this show.
I may be wrong but a few lists I saw online said season 9 was the best. 8 was certainly one of my favourites.
0:06 Lex Luthor Just Breaking The Fourth Walls
I so love this relationship between clark and lex. Lex had everything money could buy. But never had a father like Johnathon Kent.
Lol at the end of the day all lex needed was a friend
Epic scene Indeed !!!
Lex was a good kid who had terrible upbringing, no one loved him and no one trusted him just because of his name, despite his good intentions, his constant effort to help others and even his cries for help towards Clark when he felt that he was crossing over to the dark side that Clark thoroughly ignored. It is common for people who don't have love to substitute it with hunger for power and Lex was no exception. Seeing for years just how indifferent everyone was to his best efforts, he finally gave up on them. Clark was a mean character, destined to be a tyrant on earth but had love and good upbringing that quieted his dark side. By season 2 Lex trusted pretty much every secret he had to Clark. Had Clark done the same, their friendship would have changed the face of the earth!
Khaos768 Yeah, he did try to help others on several occasions, such as helping Jonathan and Martha keep the farm. But you have to admit, a lot of his methods were questionable at best, immoral at worse. I mean, experimenting on human beings, coercing public officials, polluting the water supply....he had good ideas, but very bad execution. Clark gave him multiple chances to do the right thing, but his unhealthy curiosity and his inferiority complex just made him sink deeper and deeper until there was no way out. Yes, Clark had a big hand in Lex's downfall, but Lex was just as equally responsible if not more so.
the comment about Jonathan nearly made clark snap
Best Lex ever
Well, Lex was right for wrong reasons (or at least he was partially right about reasons). All evidence points to Clark as major factor in death of his father in so many ways. Well, obviously having to hide Clark secret and deal with all the crazy things in Smallville that Clark dealt with would be stressful on it's own. However, it was Clarks decision to run away while wearing red kryptonite ring that prompted Jonathan to make a deal with Jor El that appeared to strain his heart to the point he suffered heart attack. Even further it was Klark deal with Jor El that lead to final nail in the coffin (mind you Clark at this point was aware of life for life rule) and lead to Jonathan death. Three his final heart attack was suffered because Lionel appeared to control Clark and know about his secret, which got Jonathan worked up to protect Clark leading to his heart attack. So in a lot of ways not only Clark presence In Jonathan put a lot of stress on him and strain on his heart (naturally and not) but also Clarks decision to alter course of event lead to his father death.
I honestly thought when lex said what kind of strain that put his heart I thought Clark was gonna knock him cross the room
No, this isn't Smallville, THIS IS SPARTA!!
Shit Clark was gaslighting Lex like crazy here
If I was Lex I would have lost it to. To have someone lie to you so easily and so frequently when you KNOW, something is going on.
They really did make Lex too "right" by accident I think. Lex always knew there was more going on (because he had fucking eyes) and Clark was always so obviously lying about it. And we know from earlier seasons that Lex would keep Clark's secret if he knew - he got his literal brain fried keeping Clark's secret, and Clark LET HIM get his brain fried, and then a few eps later was mad at Lex for trying to get his memories back - like wtf, how are were we supposed to see Clark as in the right there?
Except they didn't. Lex did start with good intentions, but eventually it changed to his wants and needs before everyone else. Yes, but Lex could have just appreciated Clark's friendship. He didn't and kept crossing lines to get the truth. Clark didn't let him get his mind wiped. He broke in to Belle Reve to stop it, but failed. As for Lex trying to get Lex memory back, yeah, Clark was being selfish there.
“THIS IS *SMALLVILLE!* ”
I think that’s one of Micheal’s best lines of the show, possibly one of the greatest in the show itself. The way he delivers it too like that’s a taste of the Lex Luthor that Superman will face off against in the near future. Even the line about Clark’s dad was so dark, you could see Lex tear up about it, like he envied Jonathan Kent’s love for Clark, he looked up to him more than his his own father. He tried so desperately to make The Kent’s see he wasn’t his dad and he was genuinely just a good man seeking the truth.
It hurt him so much that Clark lied to him for years and kept lying even though he knew Lex was too smart not to know. It’s hard to keep secrets but it hurts even more when it’s your friends who are the ones lying straight to your face
In my honest opinion Micheal Rosenbaum is the best live action portrayal of Lex Luthor so far. He’s unmatched, he gave such an incredible and different origin for one of the greatest supervillains of all time
His podcast brought me here
Probably the best scene on the show. Miss it alot.
lex experiments on arthur curry then he wonders why clark hid the truth about himself from him
Matthew Davis Not to mention Victor Stone, level 33.1 patients, etc
Uhhh no Lex was destined to be who he was regardless .... same with Clark. The main reasons Clark hid his true self was because Lex couldn’t be trusted which was evident and he was always taught to hide who he really was to protect himself by his parents. Towards the end of the show he did have 2 personas tho. It was destiny it doesn’t matter what happened Lex is Lex and Clark is Clark
@NOT YOU Drastic measures? He was manipulating and hurting people. You can't lay that on someone because they were secretive and excuse the guy doing it. Yeah, but so did Lex. Left him alone? Lex was the one who was obsessed with Clark and entered his life.
Michael Rosenbaum once again kills another epic scene as Lex Luthor! Such great energy, tension and passion. Truly the GREATEST Lex Luthor.
Poor Lex :(
Clark actually low key gas lighting lex here cause he was spot on about the aliens and him 😂
Such an amazing scene.
Lex tries one last time indirectly telling Clark to stop lying to him, and Clark still spits in his face once more. You can see the utter pain and desperation in Lex’s eyes and voice, he is afraid to lose himself completely, which he does after this scene.
All Clark’s lies is what made Lex a bad person.
Michael did great w some potentially cheesy lines. Wish I saw him more on screen, but his podcast is great
Did anyone notice the music in the background is the same music played when Lex kills Lionel
We will never have another Lex Luthor like this again.
I know I’m meant to be on Clarke’s side, but with how much he gaslit Lex, I was rooting for him 😂. Lex reaching his breaking point after all this time was epic.
Yea Lex really wasn't wrong when he said what he said.
Now this should be the "canon" breaking point.
I know it would have drastically altered the storyline but it legit makes me mad every time clark lies to lex. EVERY SINGLE TIME he lies to lex. It makes me so mad. They could have been good friends but clark built their relationship on lies and that's why lex lies to clark. Clark was supposed to be lex's first smallville friend. I'm rewatching smallville because I loved it when I was younger but most things Clark does actually make me mad as an adult. Clark does nothing but lie. Still my favorite actor for superman but wow.
Nothing Clark did justified Lex's actions. Lex's actions are his fault.
@@parkerboy795 I'm not sure if I just didnt see a notification or its because I wasn't tagged so sorry this is two months late. The most annoying part about this show is that clark constantly thinks its wrong for other people to lie but he is constantly lying as well. When I was younger and first watched Smallville I never noticed a lot of these things like drinking, one night stands, lying, etc but now as an adult I can't rewatch a single episode without seeing someone drinking or lying lol. I still like this show but its not as great as I remember. I was more annoyed about how often clark lies to people. Also there are parts of this show that don't make sense. Like when clark decided to not be honest with lana after, "going back in time to before he told her and gave her the ring he made".. then eventually he told her anyway and the show made it seem like the reason he didnt tell her was because he still didnt think shed accept him. The script writers jumped around and forgot what they formerly wrote I guess.
@@DaWorldOwner Clark didn't always practice what he preached, but neither did Lex. Especially bad in Lex's case considering the evil things he did. But if you're really annoyed by the melodrama in the show, remember the channel it was on thrived on melodrama. And yeah, the show wasn't really consistent all the time.
That was tense
Michael is a gem
Lex's inferiority complex was bubbling up even before Clark became Superman. I'm still peeved that the Lex Luthor we got in the finale onward wasn't even the real Lex, but a freaking clone!
"I have proof" bro dont tell him that!
Lex-"what would a worldly billionair have in common with a farm boy" Clark-"nothing! he just liked to Blow-Me!" BAAM!!!!
i like a lot of this show but some of it is just sick
This! Is! SPAR..I mean.. This! Is! SMALLVILLE!
BREAKING NEWS: Michael Rosenbaum’s back has made a full recovery after carrying 10 seasons of smallville
The man is on the brink of fully turning evil here. If Clark had told him everything, if Clark hadn't pushed him away...who knows what woud've happened.
Best lex 💯🔥
Clark WAS partly to blame for his fathers death
Matthew Davis Yea, and the baby's to. When he blew up the ship and made their car crash when martha was pregnant. Then when Jonathan was forced to take on Powers to get Clark back....Clark is the last to blame someone.
+Matthew Davis If Clark hadn't gone back in time to save that bitchy pain the ass Lana Jonathan would have lived.
tysswe1 That may be, but he has more for made up for it at this point of the series
Matthew Davis While Clarke is Not a model character, which is one of the many brilliances of this show, he does his best to do the right thing for the right reasons. Now, while the show does good to make the audience empathize with Lex, he is not a good person and does things for the betterment of himself.
tysswe1 once that happened it ruined Clark for me in a way and Clark could have told lex his secret not lied to him and Lionel loved Clark more then lex and Lionels abuse on lex
Never seen this show. Only a few clips. No disrespect to superman's actor or anyone else. He is very good.
But wow Lex's acting is another step.
No Clark, you were never friends with him. He loved you more than anything you just were unable to see who he really is. Friends don't hide their true nature.
It's hard to tell if things could have been different if Clark have trusted Lex with the secret. On one hand, it was Clark friendship that helped heals part of the traumas Lex had because his relationship with his father; on other hand, it was mistrust of Clark on not telling him that makes Lex obssess about the meteor showers and symbols. He felt betrayed and abandoned by the one he saw as his true brother. Someone who could even helped him with that mysteries he was so eager to find out more about.
Best character/
I’m sorry but this scene is Michael’s best dialogue and his best at going at clark
The best lex ever!
You really can understand Lexs point of view in this argument.. I mean his actions are inexcusable, but you really can understand how jaded he is. Rosenbaum was really the best Lex Luther by far
Smallville Pilot Episode
Clark: "I am from another planet. Can you keep my secret?"
Lex: "Yes"
The end.
Why Michael rosenbaum has never been cast as lex again criminal
maybe he wants to something besides be Lex Luthor? Actors would like to be known for more than one role.
@@fandomking8939
Maybe for awhile but if dc offer him right money he come back. He almost did crisis but wanted him work for pennies
SPARTA? SPARTA? THIS IS SMALLVILLE
Honestly the relationship Lex has with Clark in Smallville would make for such an interesting idea for canon stories or at least alternate universes. Them being friends first only makes it that much more tragic. And if only Clark had trusted him maybe Lex would be different.
They have done stuff were Lex and Superman were friends. There even a period were Lex was a good guy and was part of the Justice league. Then he went back to being a bad guy. Now he sort of kind of middle. He in prison and he turned lexcorp over to Superman and is now working with him inside of prison. However I think there an angle Lex working but don't know what is yet.
The thing is, Lex was right all along. Clark lied to him daily, playing down the "alien threat" as a delusion.
Clark was right. Lex used all those things as excuses to get power and control. He can't tell the difference between protecting people and ruling them.
@@parkerboy795 agreed.
Best Lex Luthor
Wow. I forgot how good he is. Was he this good in the earlier seasons?
I agree with lex here. Well his argument is pretty valid..
Mom :What Are You Watch and This is Nashville
Me: 0:07
This is SPARTA!!!!