BOLTR: Dirty Secrets of Harbor Freight HERCULES | Better than DeWALT?
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- We cut the BS surrounding the lithium Hercules drill from Harbor Freight. The marketing claims it's better than DeWalt. It isn't. I'll show you harbor freights dirty little secrets.🔥Safety Squint T-Shirt! teespring.com/SafetySquints_us
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99.99% of TH-cam: "I'm gonna make a video showing how the tool works"
.01% of TH-cam: "I'm gonna show you the internals of the tool and why it fails".
Thank you again for taking the time to point out factuality. I'd rather watch this than guys blubbering about what drill blows it's load fastest..
You are quite knowledgeable on how these devices work. Quite a bit of digital electronics. It is good digital board review for me. I appreciate. I designed the chip in your cell phone.
Agree. I really appreciate seeing what's inside these tools and the whys and wherefores!!
@Mike go back to watching lag bolt tests from Toolboss and other "man" channels.
This guy is giving me an entire new vocabulary which will confuse me, my friends and family for months to come!
Welcome to AVE
Will chooch all the skookum gentlemeeen's minds near and far!
Craptacular is useful to describe a lot of low end battery powered tools.
as loose as a hotdog down a hallway!
@@chrisalger5589 I once had a girlfriend in high school that applied to. She was enthusiastic and A TON of fun though!
I like the blow-molded cases. They are easy to stack on shelves and keep your tools from getting smashed to bits. We had a work truck full of Hilti hammer drills, Dewault circ saws, etc. that were all in plastic cases. The truck was for the company's concrete crew and they beat the everything out of anything they could get their hands on. The cases kept the expensive tools from being crushed by falling plate compactors or haphazardly strewn sledgehammers. A cloth bag wouldn't be able to do that, and it would be torn to pieces in a matter of days. The hinges would pop apart, but they would just as easily pop back together.
I like sand cast bronze cases next best is stone carved cases.
I like the blow but they can keep the mold!
Hilti cases aren't blow molded (at least not the ones the rotary hammers come in) They are proper cases, like the Bosch M-Boxes or the Metabo boxes. That's why they cost extra :) They have at least a chance of being usefull
I finished watching and I really appreciate that you took the drill apart and explained the quality issues with the internals. In addition, your scientitious testing (to use your terminology... LOL) of the battery really impressed me. Some other guy posted a video comparing the DeWalt to Hercules and Bauer, but all he did was compare the CLAIMED specs on the box. What you did was cut through the marketing B.S. and - in the process - destroyed something you (apparently) spent your own money on.
A local hardware store has the DeWalt on sale this week for $99, including the two batteries and charger. I guess I know what I'm going to go get. Thanks for your help.
Watching AvE use a Hilti driver to disassemble this Hercules driver is like watching cannibalism. "The smarter, stronger hilti has is prey immobilized. Now he tears into its inferior carapace to devour the insides of its far flung cousin..."
Read that in Attenborough's voice.
Looked like a Milwaukee to me...
Ahh, I rewatched. He used the hilt I disassembling the drill, and the Milwaukee taking apart the battery...
😂😂😂😂😂
jdniedner both cordless drills are made in China. Hilti cordless drills have been made for awhile now in china
First video I’ve seen from this cat. I might understand 15% of what he’s taking about, but he sure is entertaining as hell. I’m subscribing.
Dave Howie you get the gist of it after a couple videos. Speaking french helps
I cant tell if half of what hes saying is made up or actual canadian slang. But after a dozen videos you start to oddly understand exactly what hes saying.
If AvE is hard for you guys to understand, then Letterkenny must be impenetrable.
This channel has taught me how to speak Canadian.
I understand but one thing from the idk what he just said but it's he knows what he is talking about when he's taking about it
Dirty bubbles. I no longer care about politics. I got AvE to watch. Just have to stomach all the wannabes in comment section.
You, sir, need to apply for the funding to design your own $1999 cordless drill. Would love to see the end product, honest marketing and all. Would be the best cordless product, bar none!
that's why he recommends Hilti
@@chrisE815 or Makita for the rest of us. Although he does praise the slightly “lower tier” HF line, Bauer, more often than not. He’s a fair tool reviewer but he calls it like he sees it thankfully.
And nobody would buy it because it'd be overkill. Also, a lot of people like the smell of new rubber and plastic. Just fyi.
My Automotive teacher, Grady Sloop, explained marketing wank (and politicians) with the following:
"About half of the wool they're trying to pull over your eyes is polyester."
And we trade our republic for cheap tennis shoes and drills. Go figger. Plus they ain't as cheap as they oughta be.
I just want an hour of one liners... :-)
I would agree this is better then any comedian
"...because brain..." God, I love watching these hands.....
He could publish a hard cover book of the most treasured one liners.
Compilation video when
Be sure to check out the worlds most expensive brake job.
dihydrogen monoxide, chinesium, power fister, and wife's paint booth....got me subscribed.
You can actually smell the alcohol on a few videos. hes betterwhen hes drunk
Whats the "wife's paint booth"?
Green Piece wife’s bathroom where she applies makeup and blowdries her hair.
Subscribe fer no doll hairs a month
There's a dictionary for ave
I'd love to see a no-bullshit review of their Hercules 12" Dual bevel miter saw.
W..who is this man. Where is he from and what language is this he speaks. I don't give a shit about harbor freight or drills but i watched the entire thing just to hear what new words would come out of his mouth.
He is from the Wet Coast of Canuckistan, which is directly north of the 800 Pound Gorilla (which oddly enough, is currently ruled by a small handed, orange haired orang-utan. So much for the prophesy as portrayed by Charleton Heston. Although, strictly speaking, we aren't quite at that point in humanity's demise yet).
He is speaking English, but in a hybrid dialect, which is a mix of hoser, bastardized Cockney rhyming, and franglais; all mixed in with a smatter of piss poor German, Chinese, Japanese, and Spanish translations.
+Frugal Calvinist
LOL aren't you just the edgy one...
me too.
farley skookum choocher meets harber fraught not-so-skookum choocher, skookum choocher wins eh..
I`m here all day ;)
(not really, I`m meeting your mom later)
shigotomiyamoto
Exactly why I stayed! Would be a kick in the seat to cool with him!
THIS DRILL IS ALARMED
What frightened it?
Bill23799 o
AvE did
Snap-On prices.
The cutting mat.
it's triggered, too. it's top is made out of rubber...
This is a standard for all reviews to look up to. So damn entertaining.
Watched a few of your episodes, had to subscribe after this one. Great job diggin into things, man. You're clearly an intelligent dude 🤙
Returning an Item to the store.. the ultimate act of Canadian aggression.
white crimes😂😂
rick v b
Here in Sweden all stores are legaly required to take back any broken item (on warranty) for the first two years.
Clas Eklund 2 years even on chineszuim junk ?
Strictly speaking it's not defined as a warranty but the consumers right to get a repair or replace a broken item. During the first six months the store has to prove that the tool has been abused but after that period you have to be a bit more convincing if it looks like it's been around some tough jobs. But in my experience it's usually not a problem if you talk to them.
"angry pixies want to keep going when you shut it off"
that's the best explanation of 'back EMF' I've ever heard and I'm an engineer!
ummm , that's not back emf
Only took you two sentences to humblebrag about being an engineer. Confirmed engineer.
Back EMF is not the inductive spike (kickback) seen when the flow of DC current through an inductor is abruptly stopped. Are you sure you're an engineer?
@@waswestkan calm down. Maybe he drives choo choos and doesn't design things
@@waswestkan Of course he's an engineer. Bear in mind most of them still insist that current flows positive to negative.
Thank you for coming out and saying it. If you buy something, use it, then return it when you're done, you are a thief. End of story.
Or your dissatisfied with the product. The only reason to buy anything in a store anymore iis you can return it easily.
@@OrganicGreens *you're
Your both right what John should’ve said and hopefully meant was if you buy something with full intentions of returning it no matter how good/bad said item works then yes you’re a douche.
@@JO-ly3hi you got him good way to correct his grammar. *slow clap*
@@jamesburkett1992 *you're
Wow, that is some assessment. One outstanding presentation. I wish I was this freakin smart. I would be able to disassemble the drill, and that would be the end of my test. No way in hell would I be able to put it back together. This guy reassembles it and it works. That in itself is a great feat.
Ditto Smoky 583, this dude ain't no uneducated person, he sells himself short. I reckon I would have liked him as an elder brother.
The best way to succeed is to not be afraid of failure.
Or best shop teacher ever !
Finally, a comprehensive review of a cordless drill. You're obviously a mechanical engineer. I could really appreciate all of the technical lingo regarding the types of plastics used, the type of case molding and other such nuances. Thank you for your thorough discourse.
That's how the MOSFETs are supposed to dissipate heat. Putting a heatsink on top is not very useful - the plastic of the case insulates it pretty well. They have a metal pad on the bottom of the chip that's bonded right to the die and putting that on thermal vias is the proper way to heatsink them.
That said the heatsink is kind of weak looking.
It's engineered to a specification whatever that is. The parts will work for whatever the drill is specified.
AvE, you are a funny guy. I learn something, and laugh my ass off listening to and watching you. Got to subscribe. Cheers, man!
Dear @AvE, 18650s rated capacity is tested discharging down to 2.5V per cell. At 3.2V they actually do have considerable amount of juice left, so statement of 50Wh battery may not be fraudulent at all.
PS yup, this is a +2yrs vid and I'm tryin' to be the new Christopher Columbus here (or Amerigo Vespucci...)
Jesus...I have never seen a more in depth breakdown of anything in my life. Impressive!
Imagine if he was a Doctor.
The dewalt batteries use a 10kohm thermistor for overheat protection. Hercules is 100kohm. DeWalt and Hercules put their thermistors between different pins, but you can put a 10k resistor in the Hercules pack across the right pins and the DeWalt tool will take the battery.
Hell, Yeah! You build it: I'll fly it!🐯
dude, just wanted to say you made my day. You're hilarious and you get all the way into whatever your doing....I accidentally ran in to your channel and im an immediate fan...and what you said about the 72 year old had me laughing so hard i almost died. I never leave comments but I just had to say thanks
SAME SAME SAME !!!!
He is the regular car reviews of tools 😂
If you were to compare the older 20v dewalt tools to the new ones, I bet you would find that they are cutting corners more than they used too, making them more in line with this HF tool. There was another review of the current Dewalt Battery as compared to the HF, and the HF was actually built better.
My point, most of this stuff comes from the same places in China, engineered by the same companies, commissioned by tool companies. HF is trying to improve their tools, while Dewalt (aka Black and Decker) is not. Even the Husky tool quality has gone down. Cannot rely on brand names anymore.
Metabo is still good, but I imagine its expensive as frig in the USA? Germany is a 3h drive for me lol, I usually buy Metabo or Makita (cordless drills) angle grinder is Metabo of course. For tools that are used now and then but not very regularly. I buy Green Bosch.
Its relatively affordable and not as crappy as most chinesium brands are.
Watching the Hilti dismember the HF like that was like a animal planet documentary.
“there will always be angry young men” lol 😂 another blockbuster as usual, keep choochin!
At 48 minutes, I can't watch this in one sitting (gotta get to bed), but so far, you're really funny. I complain bitterly about videos that are poorly organized and rambling, but you're both entertaining and (seemingly) knowledgeable. I will look into more videos from you.
It's funny, before buying my last few tools including an impact driver, a circular saw and an electric drill, I've come to see if you've had a review of them first. Most tool reviews, they take the thing, look at it from a thousand angles under perfect lighting to make it look sexy, drill a few holes, cut a few boards and put the battery through a few drain/charge cycles and give out a score based upon how much funding the manufacturer gave them. You take the thing apart and look at the actual aspect of the tool; the bearings the motor brush surfaces, the quality of the casing, the layout of the control boards and use actual scientific method to test the battery and its charger... So I'd like to thank you for giving us all honest tool reviews with a tasteful amount of sarcasm and sass. I much appreciate them and look forward to more in the future.
CRQ5508 I
Scientific method is not a description of what is in this video.
+CRQ5508 - I 100% agree with you and you said it best. This is the first time I've seen a review where all the guts are examined and rated in detail.
So true. He's better than top gear of tools
Scientific method is not a description of you.
On your 'don't return tools/steeling issue': I was in Home Depot this weekend, the guy and wife, and young daughter were returning a stack of moving boxes. No joke, the shipping tape they used on the flaps was still attached to the box. Some days, some people.
mikeboeke pretty normal to rent moving boxes from moving companies, but I'm not sure home despot offers that service.
I caught 30% of what the hell you said
murican english
@@bsolutions525 nadian english
@@SantorumChugger
*Canadian anthem intensifies*
Me too. I wonder if it was the same 30%?
@@lordclangtheintolorable2094 🍁
"Soft & Smeary" - that was my nickname back in boot camp.
Was it true?
@@andrewmantle7627 I'll let you be the judge.
HAD MINE FOR OVER 4 HRS. NOW AND NO PROBLEMS ! W.T.F. ?
YES, YOU "HAD" IT BUT NEVER "USED" IT LMFAO
maybe he has a defective one from HF tools and he is pissed off
Brother .... I am laid up sick and until I found your videos I wasn't sure how I was going to pass the time ... Keep the hits coming. I will be sharing.
Thomas Moreland me too!
Every shop has this guy. You have this guy because you need this guy. Just keep him supplied with copious amounts of tolerable coffee and never talk about the government; and you're good to go.
You are my new favorite. Two videos in, and you're going to be my first tool channel forever.
Is ave not just the funniest adjective maker ever 😂
I second that brah... the ultimate. Heard "doll-hair" fer de first time today !!!
Michael Trollope i
You bet your glandular repercussives he is.
He reminds me of a much smarter Ricky from the trailer park boys.
I love the failed alligator lead part, because it shows exactly what my great boss has taught me to do when diagnosing electrical on automobiles...check your checking equipment! I've learned to NOT buy my alligator clips from Harbor Freight because they fail so often and easily, even unused out of the box! ps -I have a Fluke 87V as well and I love it! Great for auto-technicians as you can test high voltage hybrid circuits down to the tiniest measurements for common stuff as well.
I can't tell if you are Canadian or from Wisconsin based off the voice but you have earned my sub. EDIT: I think the pronunciation of 'satin' finally gave it away for me.
99 percent Canadian with 1 percent French Canadian thrown in. Lol
I like your knowledge of plastics. What is you background ?
AvE fell into a vat of encyclopedias, and every fifth page mutated into his DNA...far as I can tell.
@@vanderticked 700tp07tpp0p700ll
First video from AvE I have watched but man this guy seems to know his stuff and is funny to boot.
Mark Brown Well, you're on to a good thing, check out one on "juciero" its EPIC.
I want you to explain everything!
Football, nature shows, car races, everything
That would be hilarious! :-)) His expressions, I'm guessing come from Eastern Canada. Search TH-cam for Canadian humor TV shows, and you'll hear the similarity, I think.
I'm so right there with ya, eh
what's nature show? Show about animals etc.?
Birds and the bees
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Your Canadian-Ness is THOROUGHLY MOTIVATING/HILARIOUS/HELPFUL.
THANK YOU.
Pulled in by the topic, stayed for the commentary. Subbed
So dedicated to this channel I watch every fucking ad to the end.
EthanTheGiraffe
+1, I mean, it's only fair!
EthanTheGiraffe agreed
EthanTheGiraffe You should also click the ad since that gives ad feedback and MOAR MONEY for him :D
If you were truly dedicated you'd know Ave himself said to use Adblock and it's the reason I dl'ed it and use it currently. (but on occasion I do put on his playlist when I walk away from the computer hoping this earns him extra revenue )
This channel is skookum af
People who buy tools knowing they are going to return them, are complete losers!
dans-hobbies I've been to hazard frauds in questionable neighborhoods. The fellers there seem to use it as a tool rental. Every automotive handtool package in the store had greasy handprints and tape all over them.
Badger oh I'm well aware, Its sad that so few people have integrity these days.
dans-hobbies what do you think of people renting tools I oftan rent tool because I only need them for a hour or two ?
david18555 do you sing along to dog food commercials too?
dans-hobbies - I did a camera install for a guy that owned the million + $ house as a third home. Needed a hammer drill for one hole so we picked one up from HD. The cheap bastard took it back and said it didn't work afterwards. Should have taken that as a sign, he shorted me on pay.
Harbor Freight now has a 12 inch sliding miter saw "Hercules" for $399.00. You can buy the Hitachi 12 inch slider for that same price. And many store brands for far less.
Saw this video before and I loved it. I always look to AVE for advise before making tool purchases. What blew my mind is the fact that TH-cam runs a Harbor Freight commercial at the end of the video. Right after AVE rips Harbor Freight a new one. Classic!
Thanks AVE, keep your stick on the ice. 👍
Excellent review of the tool. The depth of the analysis is remarkable. Obviously a high degree of knowledge regarding not only the electrical/mechanical parameters but manufacturing processes as well.
Just can't get enough of that Shenzhen special plastic smell.
If you go shopping at harbor freight it sticks to your hands and clothes like perfume.
Justin Bell link or it didn't happen
Sam Tranter Dear God man. Think of your lungs!
mechanical turk - that was a trip, man. Thanks!
Sam Tranter Durian plastic has super powers.
I worked in electronic industry for 40 years. Battery issues is one of the most frequent complains I have, almost daily. The labeled or rated battery capacity has very little to do with the usable capacity. Usually they are the absolute chemical energy can be stored in the unit. Customer complains about the camcorder shut down at 10.5V on a 12 V battery. What they don’t understand is a lot of the delicate circuits cannot function if the voltage dropped down below 20% of the designed voltage. For example a 200 AH lead acid car battery doesn’t mean it can power a 100A starter for 2 solid hours. It usually will not start your car at or below 10.5V.
A lithium ion battery’s life expectancy depends on a lot of factors but the depth of discharge or DoD is the most important. Any device which uses this type of batteries has a very complicated protection circuitry to manage the upper and lower limits of temperature, charging current and discharge current and voltage perimeters. I don’t think they lied about the battery capacity.
You get what you paid for. Whenever I can afford, I buy Bosch power tools if I need precision and performance. For those couple times a year or a just nice to have tools, I buy the cheaper one just to do one project.
I’m not trying to defend the Chinese products but they build the tools for the money HF or Canadian Tire or Walmart willing to pay. Mind you a tool sold for $99, the factory probably get $30 for it. They are capable of building better products if the customer is willing to pay for it.
"Sinister threaded..." 😝 Latin for left.
"One 72-year-old virgin"
Ugh....
I laughed, though.
Brimshae surprise you young shits
I heard 72 Virginians. (Jefferson, etc.)
"Big ol whiff of shrimp ramen", “even though they come ridged, from the factory for her
pleasure’" The endless chatter using exaggerated and distorted words, kept me rolling. My dad is the only other person I can recall that routinely uses the word "skookum", which caught my ear, and the clever slurs dispersed throughout were so good I am now going to subscribe to the channel for the treasure trove of both amusing wisdom, as well as commentary that borders on heretical brilliance!
Your video made my day.
1. I made it through the whole video
2. I learned some new words
3. I gained some knowledge
4. I found a new way to use dirty words
5. I will not buy a Hercules tool.
Overall this video was hilarious and learned some things. So to you I say Thank You
Thanks you for an in depth review of facts and honest opinion. I had no doubt about the BS claims of China Freight, but thank you for confirming!
Keep up the good work!
Dang, I absolutely love your verbal expressions... that is what entertains me the most :)
Every time I see the brand Hercules I think of Eddie Murphy
bondovwvw Herc-a-leeze, Herc-a-leeze!!! Epic!!
Just re-watched this one...the repetitive slogan making you believe the lies, is totally in tune with the “new normal” narrative these days. AvE you are a prophet among men!
I have had one of these for over 7 years, it has been well used. The original battery still holds a charge for a long time, and charges quickly. It is a workhorse, has plenty of power and has survived several drops. Still has the orig brushes, and none of the black coating has come lose. I would recommend this one.
Mike ..why you bullshiting
bra? You ain't gotta lie to
kick it?
I bet Harbor Freight love you doing this
Yeah, it brings them more attention than they really deserve.
Lol I work at HFT
Honestly not allot of people are buying the drills....because they are expensive for what you get. Plus as mentioned in the video you can just buy another brand for around the same price and it will last longer.
Harbor freight niche market is people who want a cheap tool to do a simple job without breaking the bank. The Hercules line of products don't really offer much in quality. It really is pointless to try to sell to that kind of market.
I was kind of hoping they would step up thier quality. I guess they did compared to thier other tools but it is way too overpriced.
Absolutely true. I went to HF to pick up some cheap tools for an emergency toolbox and when I got to the drills, their Li-ions were too much. Ended up with something cheap from Walmart. Horrible but if I ever need to use it, I've done something wrong anyway.
I wonder if HF is trying to go "legit"
You would think most people know that you get what you pay for at HF
The stench is from the material "Chinesium"
Mined in the orient, then baked into all dollar store items.
Bad news for you, every single damn thing in the USA is made in China. Grab your nicest tool and not only does it say made in china, but if you open it up, all the components will, too.
@@jedrokth rip
They don’t rinse the circuit boards, it’s a cost saving step.
What tools do you buy that aren't made in China? Genuinely curious.
@@samuelmeyer2346 klien
I love the way you take apart tools and do a complete analysis of their components and inner workings and how you discuss the different materials used in the production of these different components and what makes one better than another. It really helps me to gain a better understanding of what goes into the tools that I buy and what corners were cut in their production or perhaps where the manufacturer did a good job in the design and engineering of the tool.
I am currently in need of a good cordless reciprocating saw for work. I've had this old Porter Cable Tiger saw for years and it's been a great tool, but it's corded and heavy as crap. Do you have any recommendations for a good and reliable cordless reciprocating saw, where I can get the most chooch for my buck?
That was a good question.
Disappointing that it didn’t get answered.
I took down and cut up 4 trees in 3 days with a dewalt Sawzall after a fire, I had that thing running for 12 hours a day and it gave me no problems. Definitely skookum
Worx also has a durable saw that is under 2 pounds if carrying it around is a need of yours, far less power then the dewalt though
Another excellent vid. Thanks for all your time AvE!
Oh wow. 4:09 - am I the only one who recognized that?! What a childhood memory.
Another great tear down. FYI: the newer MOSFETS have under a thousandth of an ohm of resistance, less than many switches! It takes over 30 amps to get one of those to dissipate just one watt, so heatsinks now can be a lot smaller.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of them are stupider than that." ~ George Carlin
Dihydrogen monoxide is the most deadly greenhouse gas.
Glad I found your channel. Sometimes, it makes my day
Just wanted to note that your judgement of the MOSFET transistors by their size is not a good criteria.These tiny little MOSFETs have an incredibly low forward resistance due in part to there tiny size. Because of the efficiency they do not generate at lot of heat and the heat wicks through the bottom of the transistor much faster than the top of the transistor which is why the PC board was designed using thermal vias as you noted. I have used these transistors in designs without anything but the PCB for heat-sinking at 10 Amperes and you can barely feel the heating with a finger.
Power = current ^ 2 * resistance.
Depending on the exact MOSFET it can be as low as 0.00012 Ohms.
At 10 Amperes (10 * 10) * 0.0012 = 100 * .0012 = 0.12 Watts of power.
At 20 Amperes (20 * 20) * .00012 = 400 * 0.0012 = 0.48 Watts of power
This amount of heat can be quick readily dissipated even with the not tremendously great heat-sinking.
You should also consider when test the capacity of a battery than loading any battery with a relatively heavy load is going to result in poor performance because the internal temperature of the battery is going to cause buildup of chemical byproducts very quickly. These byproducts increase in the internal resistance and heat the battery even more. The quick drop off in voltage that you saw is probably more due to internal resistance that exhausting the charge of the battery.
Batteries for battery powered systems must be designed for intended use. Most power drills while be used for a fairly short period of time and then given a time of rest which allows the battery to cool down. When used in this manner the useful battery charge is extended greatly.
I do however agree with you on many points about the physical construction of the tool.
A year old video but I couldn't agree more! He makes a lot of "matter of fact" claims with lots of humor that makes everyone agree with him but he makes so many assumptions without enough knowledge to actually condemn a part or method.
He has tested other batteries using this same method, other batteries tested very close to their claims. This one did not.
Brian Nebeke
These are Samsung25R 18650s, they are industry standard (some have moved to 20700/21700 lately) cells for high current applications. Even though these are some of the highest quality cells in the industry, they are still rated pretty close to the same way as everyone else. There has yet to be a standardization of how the capacity is advertised and marked on the packaging of the end product and the cells themselves are only rated for 2 and 1/2 amp hours if subjected to a small load usually in the order of less than an amp. Without having extensive expensive equipment and experimentation this is a close approximation of the capacity and will give you a general idea. However it can be off quite a bit because the nominal capacity cannot be extrapolated from a linear graph. In order to establish the nominal capacity and nominal voltage you need many many more data points. because of the change in nominal voltage depending on the load you end with a change in the nominal capacity depending on Load. Back to the fact that there is no standardization, the 50 watt hours that harbor freight decided to advertise was arrived at from the 20 volts and two and a half amp hours. The two and a half amp hours is relative to load and the 20 volts is not the nominal voltage. The nominal voltage of the pack is 18 volts, so 18×2.5=45, 45Wh nominal. So the estimate of 35Wh is much closer, 35 + about 25%, compared to over 40% needed to hit 50Wh.
Okay, so this review is over a year old as I write this, but, I have power tools from the 1930s that still have their original electric motors, (I have replaced most of the power cords), so it's still a valid comment, and here it is:
HFT is a total crapshoot! I had two cheap Chicago Electric 4 1/2" ginders I used on a contract job, cutting off metal door frames backfilled with concrete. I was going through two or three cutting discs per frame side. Day one, one grinder lasted 5 hours, the other lasted 45 minutes. Day two, my new DeWalt ginder lasted the rest of the year until the contract was finished. That was eight years ago and I still use it frequently, It's small size and great power make it worth every penny. Contrast that with a Chicago Electric portable belt sander I bought about 20 years ago that I have used extensively that still works incredibly well. The switch malfunctioned, I took it apart and found all metal construction, silver plated contacts, spring loaded brass contacts, heavy gauge wiring. One of the contacts had popped off the hinge, after almost two decades of use. I was able to put it back together and it still works. I also have a 10" disk sander and 1" benchtop belt sander that get very frequent use. I've had them about three years with no problems...except that the little belt sander had been assembled wrong from the factory. I had to switch some stuff around to allow it to adjust the tension! I bought the tiny chop saw. The motor was so weak, it would not cut through acrylic, the kind used for pen blanks. I needed a saw that would make very fine, precise cuts, and I had already modified the base for my needs, oops. Fortunately, I just happened to have an airbrush pump I never used with the exact same size motor, but wayyy more torque. But off the shelf, maybe you could cut balsa, or celery. I have the air powered bottle jack that I use on my big H-frame press. That works awesome! However, one of the press plates had paint flaking off with curious white powder underneath. When I ground off the paint, the plate had huge casting voids that they had filled with plaster, then painted over! One ton arbor press - needed lots of adjustment, works as intended. The mig welder! I have used my little welder extensively! I upgraded my bottle size twice I use it so much. The guys at the gas shop laughed at me and said it might last 6 months. That was 13 years ago! I modified the roller to use a big spool. the air inlet got bumped and broke off, but was easily repaired. I am going to upgrade to a better grounding clamp and heavier cable. I know it doesn't compare to Miller, but it was under $200. The Miller is slightly more. I'm on my second solar welding helmet. The first one lasted about 8 years. I only replaced it because the strap broke. The 1300 lb overhead hoist is worth every penny. I use it to lift cabs off of frames, stuff like that. I paid $39 for the little bitty Chicago Electric winch about 18 years ago and have used it to drag old cars onto my trailer, including a 6,000 lb Cadillac Eldorado with sticky brakes! I got the mini-mill, $400. You definitely get what you pay for with that. I'm about to employ the LMS upgrades on that one. The airlift kit is $44. I ruined a $25 carbide end mill from the dreaded head drop. The the air lift will pay for itself pretty quick. The 5" rotating vise is a very good piece of equipment and I use it extensively. Two worst things I 've gotten; the $9.99 battery float charger - it kept draining the battery, the $9.99 rotary tool is complete, zero torque junk, although the included accessories offset the heartbreak. Oh yeah, 14" metal cutoff saw blade cut crooked. Zip ties - good. Heat shrink - good. Electrical cord plugs - good, Folding aluminum ramps - good,.1195 lb folding 4ft trailer - good. 3/4" deep impact socket set with metal case - good. Other than those sockets, I have bought very few HFT hand tools because I've been blessed with lots of high quality USA made hand tools dating back to the early 20th century. That's the great thing about tools, no matter the age, as long as they are in good shape, they are still tools. I have many vintage tools that probably belong in a museum, except that they still work great and are still tools! I'm using tools that have passed through several generations, from my father and his father. My wife's grandfather passed away and had willed his tools to me, not his son. Before that, I had an old WWII vet friend, older than my father, who gave me his fathers machinist tools! I was surprised by this and asked him why I was getting these tools and not his son. He said, because he won't use them, you will.Think about that when it's time to pass your tools on. This is ancient stuff, but it still works. I'm still using mine, but I am curious, will whoever ends up with my tools still be using my powered HFT tools in 80 years? But I digress.
So, if you're still reading, you may have less of a life than I do...not necessarily a bad thing. just kidding. I would say that most things HFT have been pretty good, considering the price. Some stuff has been absolute garbage. I keep in mind that Chinesium comes in all shades of quality. Is there a moral to the story? Yes, HFT is a total crapshoot!
BTW AvE, great in-depth review; it's just something I can't listen to in front of my daughter. As Captain America says; "Language!" Still, big thumbs up, Thank you!
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PA 6 or 6/6 would melt well before 700°F . I'm in plastics and have worked with many engineered resins, nothing that I have encountered needs 700°F to melt.
You are the best reviewer I've ever watched!!! Seriously down to earth no bs review!! Awesome job!!
I am 50 and grew up repairing VHF Marine radios and Radar systems. Back then, we actually had to replace parts on the circuit boards or build another. One day about 25 years ago, I referred to the volume knob on my car stereo as a "Potentiometer". My friends looked at me like I was nuts. I had to replace it. Its good to hear someone use the proper diction for electronic parts. Very informative video! Thank you sir.
Came for the knowledge, stayed for the wordplay.. nice work. You rock!
I figured the Hercules brand was involved in cutting corners to save money! I own a old 18v Bosch combo kit, even came with a planner! The Bosch screw gun is all steel gearing big time! Sir you did a fantastic job dismantling and describing this screw gun!
I have an old craftsman drill and I wanted to take it apart and clean it out. I got the gearbox out and was somehow able to get it back together properly (except the back which I forgot about). I got it back in the body but didn't screw it together and tried to get the chuck out and I launched half the gearbox across my basement. I was somehow able to find all the pieces and got it back together and it works (On 2 9volts, the batteries are dead and I am not spending $40 on an obsolete battery). I think I am going to try and get a harbor freight drill master drill for $20, sacrifice it and Frankenstein the 2 together. Just a fun tinkering project.
Consider making it corded -- find a PSU that can supply whatever voltage it needs with PLENTY of amps and wire it up. Then just consider it a "bench drill" -- I've done this with one of my old corded drills. Better than sitting in the corner.
Joe Walsh Lowe's sells ~22V lithium batteries for their tools for $10. I used one to power a buck regulator pretty easily before I even owned any of their tools, no problems with it despite being priced for science. Try making an adapter to see how it goes
Here is the thing. I buy Dewalt and Milwaukee for myself. But, I learned for my construction business years ago (I'm now retired)I bought cheapo crap to put on the job. I probably have had at least 15 saws-alls stolen, uncountable power drills, and circular saws. Lost four or five table saws and chop saws and even a few miter saws. Compressors, nail guns, etc gone, too. On most jobs with casual labor which were most jobs, I provide cheap crap from harbor frt or ACE hdwe. It was all part of doing business. They will last one or two jobs, and if stolen, so what?
Jim Bass I had the same experience
ACE Hardware sells cheap stuff?
I wish their prices were cheap.
Get yourself a gun and people won’t steal from you.
I hear ya there! Many items I buy there in a pinch are twice the price they are at Lowe's and Home Depot in the next town. The bad thing about buying anything like caulk, paint, etc. there is it has sat there so long that their stock (in my little town) dries out! I have bought caulk, expanding foam, and a tire plug kit from my local Ace, and all of them were completely dried out in the package. Unusable.
I've worked for companies that did it both ways, and the ones who bought good equipment generally hired decent people and paid them well, and the employees in turn cared for the equipment they were given. The ones who bought junk tools hired junk people and paid them junk wages; if you build your business on casual labor you're probably not serious about long term growth or building a good reputation. Oftentimes WHAT you show up with is as important to a client's impression of you as WHO is using it.
You are the Norm Crosby of tool reviews when speaking Mr Crosby explained “You have to Reject from your Diagram “ Big fan of you both
Re: outgassing - probably reflects the difference in VOC regs between mainland China and the western world.
Re: FETs and thermal - generally most of the heat is conducted through the leadframe, so using the PCB to transfer heat is reasonable, and they should be used as switches so low RDS_on losses, but not a great design.
Everybody sells a China made 20v lithium drill now for under $100. HF is just getting on the bandwagon with Black and Pecker, Husky, Kobalt and others.
For a home gamer that drills 11 holes per anum in dead tree carcasses... Good enuf.
For people who actually work with them? They wouldn't buy it anyway.
Husky makes cordless tools?
Brandon Dierwechter Ryobi, close enough. For $100 home depot will give you a 18v ryobi hammer drill with two 2.0 lithium batteries and a charger, which comes with a better warranty than this junker and will last longer.
tiporari aren't they all made in China nowadays?
China made goods aren't the problem though, even Hilti is made in China now.
tiporari *sack and pecker 😂😂
I need a vocab chart for your slang. Good lord. Haha
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canadian thing
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It helps to be Canadian
That's crazy that Ave, points out that, the armature was balanced two separate times.
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Shortly before I hired in at ADI they bought a summit lathe from harbor freight. It was made in Bulgaria and surprisingly it was not a bad deal. The only thing that really bugged me about it is that it had an automatic spindle brake so threading was always a real pain in the ass.
You cant compare the Wh on the battery with your measured Wh in this way. If you increase your discharge current, your total discharged energy will drop.
When you repeat the same test with a much lower current, for example 0,5C or less, your total discharged energy will rise.
Meiestrix Correct, though this is a high-drain tool. 0.5C discharge will give you cell's energy but not how long until you have to recharge in this application. Best advise is marketing will be marketing, buy 2nd battery.
Thanks for the engineer's perspective. Suggestion In the future, could you show a quality reference tool torn down side by side with the cheap junk tear down? It would help us see the quality differences.
Agree.
Several vids he's done like that.
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Oh he does.
Not sure how I ended up om your video, but liked and subscribed jist because of your speaking.... some great and funny shit... angry pixies and such had me rolling....lol
Good stuff, keep it up!
Id like to see an updated version of this they have gotten way better the batteries especially
Damn you!! I’m supposed to be productive today and so far I’m 2hours into your videos! Just hit the sub button because I will be back. I am impressed with your knowledge. I love the slang and terms you use. Gotta watch you for a bit to figure out what you mean.
Would love to see you compare this to the at-first-glance similar Lowe's Kobalt drills.
This guy was hilarious. Especially at the end. The curse words were flying...
AvE deserves our undying support.
I almost pissed my pants laughing “one, seventy two year old virgin”
Enjoy your videos, but was honestly surprised you could keep my interest for 46:30 on a Harbor Freight drill. Entertaining!
Same here... Canadian cursing EPIC!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Matthew Mead yah, at 46 minutes the tear-down is lasting longer than the drill.
Matthew Mead uh .
SAME! lol
I'm glad you said something about returning tools after the job is done. Some people seem to think that's totally fine. It's sleazy. Good on ya.